According to insider information >the events in the story play out largely the same as they did in the N64 version>Dialogue has been changed to enhance each crew members unique personality more (rather than being the dialogue being re-writren solely for the sake of sounding less stiff and wooden)>Whilst the overall story in each mission remains more or less the same, the added cutscenes in between them are completely original and serve to re-contextualise the story of said mission. This includes some kind of heated dispute that occurs between Fox and general pepper before a certain mission starts (I have no information on which mission it was, and I have never played the original. So I might've missed something.)>The only major story change is that James McCloud is revealed to be alive at the very end. This serves as a fun new suprise for players who were already familiar with the story without altering anything that happens right before the ending. Preserving the games "it's basically the original" state. I may make a new account and post this to twitter.
Fox pawsies
Screenshot this so that I can prove that I was right, people
>>738981637I'm curious what the dialogue in Area 6 will be like. Big part of that section is the feeling of things getting overwhelming where it starts just spamming enemies while you keep getting messages. Hope they maintain that feeling well with the new dialogue.
>>738981637So, Titania or Solar would be where this 'argument' takes place? Huh...Also really fucking lame to outright confirm that James is alive, kinda also missing the point of that last section.
>>738981785i don't care enough to do so
>the only major story change was revealed to me before the game's release in a greentext
>SF64 but the characters are unfuckable public ass TV puppet demons and the very end of the game no longer has any emotional impact whatsoeverIncredible. I will now buy a Switch 2.
>>738981823>>738982108>>738981637This obviously ISN'T a leak. This is just someone who directed the trailer like yours truly. They already showed an argument between Fox and pepper in trailer! They also changed James' story so that he no longer confirmed dead but rather MIA.We've already seen that the new dialogue is less generic and that the cutscenes will have to re-contextualise the missions.
>>738981637Uneventful enough to be legit. >includes some kind of heated dispute that occurs between Fox and general pepper before a certain mission startsProbably the mission to save Slippy on the easy route.
>>738982352This is just someone who dissected the trailer like yours truly (me)*
>>738982381It looks to me like the aftermath of a Sector Z failure, considering Peppy and Falco were repairing panels in the background
>>738982243>unfackubleWho cares lol Im going to fap to off model art same as any other IP
>>738982352>This is just someone who directed the trailerMiyamoto?
>>738981742This bitch draws SO MUCH fucking Star Fox shit
>>738982937In this case it annoys me immensely because the new designs could work with some tweaks. That one fan edit of Falco with the improved bird legs got me diamonds and it was only slightly different from the real model. So close yet so incredibly far.
>>738983102oh you are a fag, get bent
>>738983136How unbelievably stupid are you that you are just now realizing that?
>>738982352Fuck off you cringy little zoomer. Take your larp back to TikTok
>>738981742Where did she get the idea that Wolf's jacket is sleeveless?
>>738981637>The only major story change is that James McCloud is revealed to be alive at the very endBut that's already in the game, he helps you escape Andros at the end
>>738983338That wasn't actually him, that's why he fades away when Fox exits the tunnel
is the game still on rails?I never liked that, it's boring af. Would prefer something more like ace combat
>>738983338You didn't notice his ghost fade away?
>>738981637>(rather than being the dialogue being re-writren solely for the sake of sounding less stiff and wooden)well it sounds worse not better so that much was pretty obvious wasn't it
>>738982352James was never confirmed dead in the original, at least not in English(Pigma and Andross talking shit doesn't count as confirmation)
>>738983448it's like 20% ace combat 80% rail shooter
>>738983824The English version of star fox is the canon version. It is obviously that Nintendo views it as an English language franchise.... they literally lip-synced the English dialogue but not the Japanese.
>>738983824>James was never confirmed dead in the original, at least not in EnglishYes he was. Did you not play the game?
>>738983934All it says is James and Peppy were captured, Peppy escaped, and Peppy told Fox of James' fate. It doesn't elaborate past thatsame goes for the manual. obviously you'd presume he's dead since it's been years but that's all it saysdon't know enough Japanese to say if it's more explicit there unfortunately
>>738984002>"Daddy screamed RRREEAAALLL good before he died!"Also I'll check the manual now, I have it upstairs.
>>738984093wow imagine if i had inb4'd that with a disclaimer , like, "Pigma and Andross talking shit doesn't count as confirmation"https://dn720701.ca.archive.org/0/items/Nintendo64GameManuals/StarFox64u.pdf
>>738984113shit I remember asking my mom what "avian race" means while reading this on the car back from Blockbuster. fuck me.
>>738984113What do you think "confirming James fate" means in the prologue?https://www.scribd.com/document/362475036/Nintendo64-Lylat-Wars-Manual-English
>>738984180literally what i've just fucking written bro it says the same thing in the in-game prologue >>738984002
>>738984236>What do you think it means>"I ALREADY TOLD YOU">Post doesn't answer the question.Tell me what you think it means.Then tell me why you think James's ship fades away like a ghost, and why nobody can see it (not even with their arwings) except Fox?
>>738983338>>738983445>>738983494heh, star wars reference
>>738984367Never seen Star Wars.
>>738983315Probably from wanting to see DEM GUNS
>>738984427It's just knights and wizards, but in space. Youre not missing much.
>>738984319I am being very nice so I am replying to you even though I already did"his fate" could refer to captivity. captivity is a fate. >James ship fades awayokay now I've discovered the misunderstanding that led to this exchangewhen I made this post >>738983824 I was replying to this post >>738982352 saying that James' story was "changed" so that he was no longer confirmed dead. but what we saw in the trailer is 100% consistent with the 64 prologue and manual narration. so I'm saying it's not a change. that trailer could lead directly into the 64 manual and prologue with no changes to either.so to be clear I'm not saying James is "actually" alive at the end of sf64 i think it's pretty clear that he's dead. but the ambiguity is a narrative device, Fox lets go, he has closure, it's a happy ending even though James is dead.
>>738984465just knights and wizards in space he says, like that isn't an obviously awesome concept and like it didn't make for two and a half great movies
>>738984483>i think it's pretty clear that he's dead. but the ambiguity is a narrative deviceWhat ambiguity? there's literally nothing that even slightly suggests that he could be alive.>He was captured on venom>Pigma says he killed him>Peppy confirms his fate>His ghost is in the finaleI just don't see how there's room for any ambiguity in this discussion.
>>738984465>>738984517I always heard it was cowboys in space.
somehow, james mcloud returned
>>738981637why is that fox face so funny
>>738984574James' fate was already heavily muddled by Command and Zero so I wouldn't be surprised if they just make him live in this reboot, it's the direction they've been moving in for a long time.
>>738981637>the only major story change is ruining the single most memorable and effective story beat in the entire original gameLol just lol. If they do this in any way it will be the slop tendies deserve.
>>738984598it has knights (or samurai if you prefer) that do magic, the bad guy is a comically evil British empire, and they have WWII air battles. (in space.)I guess the bounty hunter scenes are kind of cowboyish.
>>738984646>Lol just lol. If they do this in any way it will be the slop tendies deserve.amen
>>738984645We're talking about 64 only. Please try and stay on topic.
>>738984002His Airwing disappears right after he helps you escape Venom's explosion, LARPer-kun.
>>738984749I don't disagree that he's a Force Ghost in SF64, but I'm also referring to the idea put forth by the OP.
>>738981637>The only major story change is that James McCloud is revealed to be alive at the very end.Given how often he's 'come back on the last mission to save Fox' this kinda makes sense, though in such a case there'd better be a good reason he was missing to begin with.
>>738981637>Dialogue has been changed to enhance each crew members unique personality moreGet the fuck outta here. The translators just wanted to put their own shitty spin on it.
Ha ha… you’re not as stupid as you LOOK
>>738987057>the translatorsAre you saying you honestly think the Japanese script is going to be identical to the original game's and it's only the translations that will be different? When there are already entirely new cutscenes that weren't in the original game at all? The entire style has been changed
>>738984427Watch the original trilogy, it's fun.
>>738987135>Are you saying you honestly think the Japanese script is going to be identical to the original game'sIt was already confirmed. Try and keep up. The cutscenes don't matter to me.
>>738984574Fox's creator himself said that it was always supposed to be ambiguous. https://mond.how/ja/topics/6xv0oiuynu4rry8/tmtoco5v45tp4p1>Is he alive or dead? That's for the players to decide. And I want the fans to discuss it with each other and get excited about it.>That situation is obviously influenced by Star Wars Episode 4, but when I first saw it as a kid, I believed Obi-Wan was alive.>Or maybe it was an illusion that Fox saw, or maybe it was his strong feelings for his father that saved him from himself.>Once again, I want the players to think for themselves and come to their own favourite conclusions.>I'm not in a position to give an official answer, but I think it was an illusion that Fox saw.>On the other hand, maybe it was the moment when he finally broke away from the father in him and became a true leader.
>>738981637>Dialogue has been changed to enhance each crew members unique personalityFalco finally calls Andross a porch monkey
>>738984574The old Japanese guidebook claims that James REPORTEDLY fell into Andross' trap and died. https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/y8cwc9/finally_got_around_to_doing_translations/
>>738981637>Dialogue has been changed to enhance each crew members unique personality more Pretty sure they got rid of "monkey" comments and Falco isn't as mean to the player. Not the biggest change but at face value idk if this claim is true
Command already confirmed this because you could fucking play as James in one level at Venom. He's always been alive.
>>738987960Command has what I'd consider "drunk writing" and I take everything that happens in it with a grain of salt.
>>738987960Star Fox Zero also strangely has Andross notice James' "ghost" and has him yell "Why won't you STAY dead?!".As shown by here >>738987383, James' fate was always intended to be ambiguous, whether he was alive but trapped between dimensions, a ghost, or even just a vision that Fox saw (which Imamura seems to personally believe himself). Honestly I think but also really hope that this is all just something people are looking too far into, Nintendo just giving James to be flat out alive would ruin the mystery and intrigue surrounding the character.
>>738987960faked his death to dodge the bill collectors
why was James so lazy and retarded that he named his son Fox
>>738988174Wasn't the idea in Zero that Andross threw James into one of those dimensional portals and he temporarily shows up in the flesh at the end? That was the impression I got at the time but I can't remember if it's accurate.
>>738988268There are humans named Manny
>>738988323>humans
Why were Star Fox 2 and Command the only games with more than a single girl in them?
>>738988268Maybe it’s a nickname
>>738989491nice ross
>>738990778>Slippy is Slepston Rutherford ToadBASED
Star Fox Zero already suggested the James in 64 and Command was just dealing with dimensional displacement.
>>738992427>James just hops between universes because his existence is unstable >Has to help a version of his son escape a giant ape head every other day or something
>>738981637Even in the original you could gleam that Pepper disapproved of them saving Slippy over prioritizing Venom. Which is funny if Beltino exists because that's like telling your equivalent of Werner von Braun that you let his son die so his team could kill Hitler 1 hour faster.
>>738990778>All of Star Fox besides Falco is a donorHad to be fun to make these
>>738984574The only thing ambigious about it is if it was James ghost or if Fox was hallucinating.
I'll buy the game if the devs promise to turn Crystal into an ugly nigger
>>738989491Ever since Star Fox ended up in the reboot loop it's had a significant problem with women.
>>738981802>Big part of that section is the feeling of things getting overwhelming where it starts just spamming enemies while you keep getting messages.Yeah, overwhelming for Andross's forces.That stage is a masterpiece of both game design and making you feel like a badass.Venom slowly getting bigger as you progress, the fear in the enemy comms as your team blasts through their forces like a hot sword through butter, the amazing music...flawless.
Krystal was... Robbed...
I don’t like how they connected these two universes.I understand Donkey Kong and all, but Star Fox?? Space in Mario doesn’t work the same way. Space in Mario is a whole lot whimsier and lots more magical. Kirby would make more sense. I’d rather Star Fox be its own continuity.
>>738983338>if you beat the game on the Hard path, a tiny shooting star appears and flies across the sky>it doesn't happen on the Easy path>still leaves James's fate ambiguousIt's the little details that made SF64 so great
>>738994315>arwing is now open canopy for some reason>in spaceI was triggered
It should be like this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr7K7hLjOTc&ra=mhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cW9GyBhFHUQ&pp=ygUUZmFsY28gYW5kIGhpcyBmYW1pbHk%3D&ra=m
>>738994418Oh god damn it just let the furries do it
>>738994130Exactly but I think a big part of it is the delivery of the dialogue.>Andross calling you to try and intimidate you>THEY'RE THROUGH THE SECOND LINE>"We're gonna break through that fleet" as you enter the fleet of bigger warships>"Great Fox will cover you." >FIRE! FIRE! DON'T LET 'EM THROUGH!>THE LAST LINE HAS BEEN BREACHED>THESE GUYS ARE CRAZY! DANG, DEPLOY IT NOW!I really hope they maintain the mood well. How do you even replace this dialogue or fit a cutscene between this and the Venom mission right after, too?
>>738994418Why was Bill such a retard? Of all the people to trust to not fuck you in the ass when your back is turned.
>>738994315its all smash bros universe. they killed some pikmon coming off the dolphin that same movie
>>738982352>They already showed an argument between Fox and pepper in trailerThey did?
Andross is a kino villain. Some sort of mad scientist wizard who is really a giant fucking telekinetic laser shooting brain. “ONLY I HAVE THE BRAINS TO RULE LYLAT”
Andross wont have his way with me, just like he did with my father.
>>738994619They should show us how Andross turned himself into a cosmic horror
>>738994558My question is...where were the higher ranking officers? You would think they would have checked on anyone coming into the base. Card or not.
>>738994752Andross fiddled and diddled little orphaned foxes :^)
a starfox 64 remake should not cost $60-70
>>738994874Cool! Because it doesnt!
Dinosaur planet was so retarded. >there’s this random ass planet with talking dinosaurs that has weird alien mojo and SURPRISE andross at the end And that’s why I loved it
>>738994554>FIRE! FIRE! DON'T LET 'EM THROUGH! That line is great, because it shows that Andross's forces are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at you>DANG, DEPLOY IT NOW! It implies the boss you fight isn't fully completed, but out of desperation and having nothing left, they have no choice but to "DEPLOY IT NOW!!!"Again, subtle touches like that are what made SF64 so fantastic.
Never touched Command but this writing seems batshit insane.https://www.reddit.com/r/starfox/comments/zk8gpl/my_take_on_the_krystal_defends_andross_scene_from/
>>738994901its seventy cad
>>738988323There are men named Guy.
>>738994901Retard.
>>738995116>CADAh, the chinese colony. >>738995138>Digital is 50usd, 60 for physical
How many different ways are there to play SF1 and SF2 these days? I know the "finished" 1995 version of Star Fox 2 has big design changes from Nintendo's official 1996 version, and there's Fastrom patched 1 and EX, but are there other variants?
>>738994998That and the delivery are why I feel like dialogue changes are an interesting choice for this remake. Especially since we already know in-mission dialogue is being changed seemingly entirely.
>>738995138You're not a Pokemon, stop speaking like one.
>>738994273wrong, she got exactly what she deserved
>>738995114The localization makes it way worse, but the JP writing is leaning heavily on the audience having a lot of context from the prior games/supplemental material as well as understanding what Krystal is *actually* trying to say here.The problem is none of the prior games made the more nuanced parts of the story clear and it's asking a lot more from players here. She's intentionally being inflammatory so she can indirectly explain why she's struggling to bury the hatchet with Fox.
>>738990778The amount of soul in these is immeasurable>falco only non-donor>Slippy is the only one licensed to pilot a heavy vehicle like great fox>Peppy's license serial is crn-100-**** instead of 101 like the others, showing he has had his for much longer>Leon's covered in blood
Since Krystal was a stolen character from Rare do you think retiring her is the most respectful thing Nintendo could do? It's ironic, beta Krystal was like beta Berri and Nintendo is the one who Hollywood'ed her.
Of course James didn't die, he just shaved his face and became an F-Zero racer.
>>738990778I don't like Fox and Falco's smiles here, feel off. Would Leon even have a license?
>>738996825Oh no he’s hot
>>738996728They were gonna make a girlfriend for Fox either way, and she's been around too long to throw away.
>>738996728Krystal wasn't stolen she was rescued since rare wanted to cut her out completely but Nintendo wanted to keep her in, probably since they thought she was hot, and she got heavily revised to be even hotter as a result. I do think she should be retired though. She had three games in a row and she failed to really break out as a good character in her own right. Nintendo clearly doesn't know what to do with her and I much rather them just retiring her than bringing her back and revise her so much she may as well be a brand new character.
>>738981637>The only major story change is that James McCloud is revealed to be alive at the very end. This serves as a fun new suprise for players who were already familiar with the story without altering anything that happens right before the ending. Preserving the games "it's basically the original" state.>new surpriseThe thing that everyone called would be changed turned out to be true, surprising no one
>>738986815I'm not sure if I'm more insulted that you insinuated that I'm LARPing as having played an hour-long game that I've played probably fifty times since the first time in 1999, that you bumped the thread after an hour and ten minutes to make that shit post, or that you didn't read up, OR down in the reply chain to see that that's not even the aspect of the game that I was talking aboutabysmal
>>738987135>>738987374you know there was a Japanese version of the direct, right? you can freely check and see for yourself that the Japanese isn't exactly the same as it was in SF64 so this isn't really a matter of speculation. to which the answer is, no, the new game is using a new script in both Japanese and English.the more interesting question is whether this one might have been written by an English team first, and then translated into Japanese.
>>738988230and passed the bill off to Peppy and Fox lmfao
>>738988323>>738988268well, a Manny is usually a Manuel or a Manfred, neither of which means "man" or "human" as suchbut there are Hebrew-speakers named Adam. it happens.
>>738996953>Krystal wasn't stolen she was rescued since rare wanted to cut her out completelyShe was 1 of 2 main characters for the original Dinosaur Planet. Are you saying they wanted to cut her from the game before it became a Starfox title and Miyamoto reversed that? That sounds wrong.
>>738982550>>738982352My exact same thoughts. Thanks for calling him out.
>>738981637>. This includes some kind of heated dispute that occurs between Fox and general pepper before a certain mission starts (I have no information on which mission it was, and I have never played the original. So I might've missed something.)Probably Titana or Solar, General Pepper warns Fox to not go on these missions because for being too dangerous
>>738997547and Gay is short for Gaylord, yet that doesn't stop you from being a fucking faggot
>>738988268James "Fox" McCloud, Jr.
>>738990778>wolf and leon have the same addressCute bro, cute
>>738982243Would be funny if the Illumination adaptation handled the end better.
>>738995114At this point in the story, Krystal has been spending the bulk of the game palling around with Star Wolf, and at the very least Star Wolf themselves don't see themselves as le evil mustache twirling bad guys (the word used to describe Wolf in the lore book was translated to 'magnanimous'), so they would have given Krystal a version of Andross that would have made his cause more sympathetic.
>>738983000>bitchWoman? In any case, it's always kinda sad to see asian artists be affected by western idpol brainrot, still not as bad as that shitalian artist that plasters pride imagery all over the star fox characters, in the asian artist case it feels like "this is what people like... right?" not something coming from a true believer
>>738982352>We've already seen that the new dialogue is less genericWe have? Cause that's not what I saw in the direct.
>>738981637Doing the ''I never played the original bit'' to make your fanfic seem real, clever.
God, Fay "Spaniel" Sinclair is so cuteI wanna rape her
The story unfolds the same way in each level because it’s the same game. Holy shit, we're going to have to wait for those obsessed autists to finally play the game so everyone can finally realize that this game is literally Star Fox 64 with updated graphics.
Imagine holding her dainty, tiny frame against a cold metal munitions crate and violently pounding her swollen, winking fortune cookie until it's blistered and bleeding.God I love Fay Spaniel
Do a barrel roll!
There will be an unlockable mode where you play as James and young Peppy and Falco's dad and Slippy's Dad and it's a remake of the SNES Star Fox. Oh yes it will happen and I will he happy :)
>>738995463You may as well be talking to a wall, anon.
>>738981637SO FAKE AND GAY >The only major story change is that James McCloud is revealed to be alive at the very endNever played 64 before with true ending or something
>>738981637This is a cool change for Star Fox, but it will probably be soulless if this is how they handle the OoT remake.Everything will look more modern and bright. The really scary moments in the game won't have a "horror" vibe anymore, not without a wink to let kids know it's just for fun, like in modern Zeldas (like Zombie Bokoblins in SS, or the overdone eye-effect in TOTK) and then it'll be like>"Heyyyy Zelda, what is upppp!?" kinda dialoguecoupled with the story being 1:1 and the events happening in the exact same order, and a bit of writing-fluff around the kingdom of Hyrule, and maybe some Impa backstory.And it'll miss the point of OoT. SF64 doesn't have an interesting narrative so they can do it for this one, but for OoT it'll be out of touch.
>>739003773This dog owes me sex
>>738981637Does nintendo know it’s possible to make a rail shooter with new stages and a new setting?
>>739006286No it must have a retarded gimmick (in this case it's furry vtubing) shoehorned into or be a completely random genre no one likes
>>738996825>Gets hit with dimensional displacement>Become a human at some during all the hopping
>>739005564>SF64 doesn't have an interesting narrative so they can do it for this onenah fuck you star fox's narrative is as interesting in an hour as ocarina's is in twenty
>>738981637>a fun new supriseNo? Of fucking course they would have to fully explain and ruin the understated detail of being saved by your dead dad. Modern devs are incapable of just shutting the fuck up.
Why are they remaking the same game again instead of making a new oneShit, at least remake a different game. Why not try remaking Star Fox 2?
>>739006286my bet is that putting serious investment towards a game that would ultimately be so small in scale yet still entail high production costs isn't worth the gamble of it being anything but a proven and established formula like a remake is. it was probably this remake or nothing. of course a new game would've been better and the current Switch 2 library is in dire need of something that stands apart from the likes of this, but it still seems like a good product in its own right for what it is. I won't snub an enhanced version of one of my favorite games.
>>739001534I think she's a true fujo that just loves Wolf and Fox being gay, (though she seems to always associate the Bi flag with Wolf)not only that but she's a mother and has a kid
