It's time for PVE-chads to save this game
>>738982621and they will whisper>no
>>738982621>pve only modeMy interest is piqued
>>738982717I'm curious to see how it will be done. While I like the current UESC, they alone wouldn't make for a good PvE game. A lot of changes will need to be made to make that PvE mode fun.
>>738982621Zesty ahh robuck
if the game wasnt built with pve in mind to begin with, it will be another New Worldevery competitive pvp game always makes pve enemies either uber easy or a background setpieceonly arc raiders attempted it properly, and the pvp players endlessly bitch about it
>>738982621why are they using that image? is that not the exact image shitposters use when they make marathon hate threads
>>738982978What else are they going to add?What's the timeline for this Marathon game anyways? Has Durandal engaged the pfhor garrison at Lh'owon yet?
I'd check it out if Bungie isn't the one handling the game. D2 was a fucking shitshow and there is absolutely nothing they or anyone can do to convince me to play their game again. Fuck that
>>738982621Why did they feel the need to give negro facial features to a robot? Who would ever want such a thing and why?
>>738983181>What else are they going to add?As in in season 2? A new shell, a new-ish map, what I believe to be a perk system, more weapons and equipment, more enemies (1 is already being released early on the 19th), a queue for 2 player teams, and 2 experimental modes (pic related).>What's the timeline for this Marathon game anyways?I don't know. I couldn't make myself finish Classic Marathon, so I'm not lore savvy.
>>738983181Considering that in the intro it is specified that Earth has received the message about the Pfhor sent by Leela in the first one, which according to her it takes 90 years to travel from Tau Ceti, I'd say it takes place centuries after 2.
>>738983418It's set in the late 29th - early 30th century.
>>738983363Giganiggatron is comin fo yo loot yt boi
>>738983363george droyd
>pve is what has kept destiny afloat>"i know, let's gamble our company on an extremely niche full loot pvp game!"is anyone doing any thinking at bungie lately?
>>738982621That's as good as a confession that they fucked up
>>738983580>I can't loot, beep boop
Here's my unbiased opinion on which game is better: while I do think marathon's mysterious world is more unique and compelling than arc raiders, I think that arc raiders has better gameplay. However, arc raiders is AI-slop, and I cannot allow myself to play it. So, despite it having worse gameplay, and gameplay being the most important aspect of all, marathon still wins by sheer virtue of being an actual videogame.
>>738982621Why would I play an afterthought mode instead of an extraction shooter that was designed for PvE from the ground up like Duckov?
Shan't play shart raiders or become a maratroon, it's all slop
>>738983729Arc Raiders is simply better and only getting better.If you want to be competitive then stay on Marathon, but if you want to have a good time with other people than Arc is the better game by a long shot.>AIIt's not, the confusion stemmed from them using some kind of AI model for live voice chat changing (so you can sound like a gurl).Which other games allow you to be a bard while other people fight?
>>738983965>Arc Raiders is simply better and only getting better.From a gameplay perspective, sure. It's ai slop, though... so it isn't in the same space as regular videogames. It contains *some* (they reduced the number recently) AI voice-lines for the characters you play as. I'm not talking about the AI voice changer.
the utter nigger obsession is tiring
>>738982621>robot>still looks like a fucking nigger
>>738984032>it contains some AI character voicesAnd?How is that a problem exactly? Are you one of those morons that suffers from AI psychosis? You hear the word AI and go into fits of rage or dismiss everything that uses it without even understanding how any of it works.
>>738982621
Not even sure if awesome cool guy PvE chads could save it
>>738982670FippyBippy
>>738982621I never understood the appeal of PvE games in general. You're pretty much just fighting glorified practice bots instead of actual humans.
>>738982621isnt the only point of an extraction shooter the PvP part? why not just play borderlands if you want pve?
Yboi offerin he bussy like at??
>>738982621If it's offline capeble PvE I will buy it.
>>738984403The point of a video game is to sell copies.
>>738983159Do you think ign journalists go on here
>>738983363The reason you would give a robot any other race's facial features? I get that you guys are just racists but you understand that not everyone thinks like you, right?
>>738985397>not everyone thinks like youThey do, I have literally never seen niggerbots at any robotics expo ever. There is literally no need for it apart from ulterior pervertred or racist reasons.
>>738984880it obviously won't be
>>738982621See, I told you, I told you they're literally killing their own game with their design philosophy.
>>738982621>ayoo... u b sayin.... hol up bruh u wuz sayin... we finna... we wuz finnna b... iono tf u sayin bruh.... we wuz space nikkaz n shit cuh
>>738984201>why don't you eat shit like me?StunningBraveKill yourself.
>>738985103If you're jewish yeah.
>>738982621Where is the goddamn Linux support? I would have boughted this turd if it had support. All it takes for the dev to send an email to the anti-cheat dev because they already support Linux. Same thing for Tarkov, both games are using the same anti-cheat software.
>>738982621Is it going to be playable offline too? Only then will they have my interest
>>738986753Yet you're more than happy eat shit like Marathon, that also uses AI and stole art.Ironic.
The best parts of Destiny was the co-op dungeons and raids, its the ONLY good thing those games did better than their competitors. And lets not forget the DOGSHIT PvP Destiny 2 had. Where they have all these abilities and perks and weapon types, and then just make so effort to balance it at all and it just becomes a meta loadout shitshow. So this studio, which is really only good at producing co operative PvE raid style encounters, decides to bet their entire company on a PvP shooter, and a fucking extraction shooter at that. So they've already chopped their possible fanbase into as many possible smaller pieces as possible.So Marathon is for people who liked Destiny 2 PvP, but NOT it's PvE, it makes no fucking sense.
>>738983129They could have had their own niche as the only purely PvE AAA co-cop extraction shooter. Why the fuck didn't they just do this from the start. People who play extraction shooters don't even like extraction shooters. Arc Raiders was such a success because of the gameplay that it DIDN'T have if you didn't want it. Thats how fucking poisionous PvP extraction shooters are
>pve only modeNow I am interested. I don't play against Humans because Humans are toxic Faggots who will play optimally, meaning you have to play identically if you want to compete, resulting in everyone playing the game becoming identical in loadouts, playstyle, etc... which just isn't fun.Humans suck at fun.
>>738987248Only 1% of the playerbase engages in Dungeons & Raids because most people don't find them fun. They are really unintuitive. You sound like a Sweaty Meta-Gamer who just can't understand your idea of fun sounds like going to work to everyone else.
>>738987480>1%11%. That's still dreadful but at least get the number right.
>>738982717This.
>>738987480 Nah, when the dungeons coming out were actually worth running, they were incredibly popular. I can see how a lot of people wouldn't want to run a multi hour raid but the dungeons would be about the right mix for gameplay complexity in a PvE Extraction shooter. I mean what's the fuckin alternative? Just let the game and studio die and waste billions of dollars and permanently shame the Japanese?
>>738984880This but also this>>738985729afraid so
>>738987428I forgot who said it but its along the lines of "Given enough time, players will optimize the fun out of the game"
>>738982621>chooses the ugliest possible close up picture they can for their articleThis has to be intentional
>>738982621>Marathon is not for everyone>We need to broaden our playerbase
>>738982621>>738982670Why are "gamers" nowdays such cowards? Competitive play was the whole point when multiplayer games became a thing
>>738982621I don't think PVE will save it but might give it a bump for a while but he game doesn't have good pve at this time.
>>738987782>Cheaters sabotaging more games today than ever>More sweat lords griefing the living shit out of games>Say a word and get your and your children's children account banned without parole>Beat one of these people once and they will create threads and endless posts crying that you played unfair >Now in games where you lose your entire progress in the blink of an eye to a sexless virgin camping all day Yeah, why did people say they are fed up?
>>738986829No faggot its about keeping the studio open even commie nations you have to make a profit or you don't have a job. You faggots are less then worthless just takers.
>>738987782It's more that ARC Raiders specifically appealed to extraction shooter fags who want PvE. Niche within what was already a niche.
>>738988004All of those things can be solved with dedicated servers, as long as they are not run by fags that is
>>738988038You have it backwards, people who enjoy PvP extraction shooters are the niche. People who prefer the PvE extraction shooters are apparently the normal ones based off of sales. Is this a surprise? tarkov fags and similar groups MUST be aware that they're mascochistic weirdos right?
>>738988168I just want to shoot badguys with a well polished shooter, I don't care about live service shit or having to compete with another schmuck online.
>>738988342you're like 20 years too late for that my man
>>738988342I like multiplayer PvP when its even or at least balanced to try to be even. The entire premise of extraction shooter PvP is to be a little faggot who waits until people are distracted and then jumping them. Its nigger behavior and It doesnt surprise me that people bounce off of the genre.
>>738982621I have a great idea for a pvp mode since these idiots cant seem to figure it out.>2 teams of 12-16>objective is to shoot dudes, capture a point while shooting dudes, or steal something while shooting at dudes>the team that shoots the most dudes or does the most objectives wins
>>738983871The extraction mode was a failed experiment. It was a trend chaser mode. PVE is the main event.
>>738982621>pvp live service game>adds pve life supportWhen has this ever worked?
>>738988342Filtered
I like how we still have unironic IGN news threads. we truly have the memory capacities of goldfish.
>Spend the entire season shitting on casuals and telling them to fuck off to arc raiders/destiny>N-no please come back! we'll add a pve modeL M A O>>738988342PvE tarkov, especially SPT, is pretty good if you want to try extraction shooterSPT you can make it as casual-hardcore as you want
>>738985584>I have literally never seen niggerbots
>>738983418We literally know it takes place in 2893, you morons.
>>738982621It should have been PVE from the start. People like cooperative shooters. They don't like running around looting shit for 20 minutes together and then getting killed by other players to take all their stuff. If you're going to do that do away with all the looting from the start and give everyone stock guns. No need for AI enemies walking around, might as well just play CS instead
>>738985397>The reason you would give a robot any other race's facial features?I guarantee you that it wasn't a black person who designed this robot. Leftist white people have an obsession with brown people, it's unsettling, and it's utterly pointless to pretend otherwise. I'm distinctly reminded of a black concept artist who actually made an attractive black woman for Starfield, sent the concept off for approval, only for it to come back as a fat, ugly, grocery store aunt.
>>738987782>Competitive play was the whole point when multiplayer games became a thingNo it wasn't. Playing with your FRIENDS was the whole point. No one ever wanted to play anything with or against strangers.
>>738987782>Competitive play was the whole point when multiplayer games became a thingPvPvE games aren't normal competitive games. They're sociopathy simulators that are a holy land for people who's philosophy on gaming aligns entirely with pic related.Hence why there's all that drama with Arc Raiders. That game does it right by gradually segregating players based on how aggressive they are - this means wolves eventually stop encountering sheep and only go against other wolves, and a wolf hates nothing more than another wolf.
>>738989232>PvPvE games aren't normal competitive games. They're sociopathy simulators that are a holy land for people who's philosophy on gaming aligns entirely with pic related.It's just PvP in general. Everyone on the internet is awful now.
>>738989107The core problem with this genre is that it doesn't feel good enough when you win to make up for how shit it feels to lose. Other games at least keep those two opposites in balance.
>>738989232ARC also fixed this issue by having the ARC enemies more difficult to hit and lead than human players. I routinely kill people who try to jump me with basic starter weapons because the PvP players seem to be pretty shit in general.
>>738989284It's amplified in these games because there's more at stake.If you lose in a fighting game or a match of Halo/CoD/whatever, there's no long-term punishment. At worst you log off in a shitty mood.In an extraction shooter if someone decides to ruin your day, you lose shit you've spent days/weeks gathering - there's a much more tangible loss.Some people say that makes the game more exciting than a normal multiplayer game, but to me it just turns me off entirely.
>>738989352What's worse is you go through all the trouble of killing other people, getting this fantastic loot you've stolen from them and then it just sits in your vault. You know if you take it and use it you're likely going to lose it when someone gets the better of you. The only smart move is to let the shit rot in your vault and just take the free low grade shit the game gives you for free. Feels bad man. There is no real sense of progression because you're always guarding against loss by gimping yourself
>>738989556>Some people say that makes the game more exciting than a normal multiplayer gameThat's because they don't know they're gambling addicts.
>streamer blatantly using a bug to fuck over a team that were beating cryo>he said he talked to bungie and they said there is no problem, it isnt a bannable offense>bungie finally comes out and say that they will "look over their existing guidelines", doesnt ban him or stop anyone else from doing thisfuck this game, pvpfags just ruin it for everyone
>>738982717Same. I won’t even try pvp extraction shooters anymore. It offers pve only or I don’t buy, simple as.
>>738989853he got tempbanned for a single monthbungie is turbo cucked
>>738983729Both games use generative ai assets and code.
Did you dumb motherfuckers not see what happened the last time bungie tried PvPvE?
>>738990430Exactly, they should just drop the pvp altogether
>>738982978they're just going to reskin all the enemies from destiny, they don't have the resources for anything more sophisticated than that
>>738982621But will it be a permanent mode? I would buy it if it was but Bungie has a history with Destiny of removing content.
>>738990430Apparently all these marathon "fans" never played or heard of destiny
>>738991269Marathon wasn't designed around it so it will be shit
>>738990578This is the real problem. Bungie has a barely still living example of their competency right there next to Marathon. Destiny 2. Half of all the content in that game is gone. They removed it to force people to buy new content. And when they had a court case that forced them to put it back they couldn't, because they straight up deleted it. Why would you trust anything they would say when they have that kind of history?
Can you imagine being Pete Parson's? He is in Hawaii somewhere on a beach. When he is bored he googles "Bungie" laughs and orders another Margarita then gets in his car drunk and hits some random Samoan kid but it doesn't matter because he is rich?
>>738982621The only thing i know about this game is they have a character that is literally just an uglier version of Marilyn Manson.
>>738982717Just say you're gay.
>>738988131Not at all. Mods and admins on servers are nowhere near good or attentive enough to solve even 1% of cheating.All they get are the obvious ragehackers, spinbotters and shit like that, while nobody else ever gets banned.
>>738982621WE WUZ
>>738982621Changing the genre to attract more players just shows a complete lack of design
>>738987782I was inclined to agree given that Marathons incredibly difficult pvp scenario was the appeal of the game for me, but in hindsight I think having something else to do when your lucks been bad might be a good thing for everyone. I'm probably mediocre at best and after a string of losses sometimes I still want to play without the stress of having to scrape every little thing out of the vault and pray. Usually I just rook it for a bit or do the sponsor kit only mode when available but even those engagements are tense because I actually need to extract with the stuff im getting to keep playing. I definitely don't want the game to refocus on pve but when you feel like you don't have any gear to work with the having something low stakes to go to that would feed some equipment back could be useful at balancing the game. It might make actual crew fill runs little more geared out and aggressive because they know that replace what they brought.
Historically speaking, trying to add a PvE mode to a game made specifically around PvP as it's main focus doesn't make particularly interesting results (same in reverse)I guess Bungie made with work with Destiny, but I wouldn't hold my breath
>>738995120Bungie made it work because it was planned from the start this wasn't planned. Plus if this doesn't let normies grind stuff that was a issue to grind in PVP it won't solve any issues and if they let normies grind everything in this mode no one will do PVP anymore. This is lose lose
>>738987368Isn't that what the forever winter is? or I guess that's not quite AAA
>>738987612Ghosts of the Deep, Vesper's Host and Sundered Doctrine are overcomplicated verbose ass, though. Grasp of Avarice is Schizophrenic. Dungeons & Raids would see more action if they went all in on that Training/Exploration mode so that more people could actually get good and train themselves up without having to rely on other people and approval by Sweats who won't let anyone get good with them yet tell them to get good anyway.Destiny 2 has had an accessibility problem for a very, very long time, and new Players struggle to get into the game let alone make sense of it. It might be one of the most impenetrable games in the last few decades.
>>738982621>PVE extraction shooterlol, lmao. Marathon wishes it had even an ounce of soul that The Forever Winter got.
>Give what people have been asking for>get shit for itYeah no shit it should have been there at launch but when's the last time a Sony studio actually made effort to fix something?probably because it's do or die at bungie tho lmao
>>Give what people have been asking forNo actually the moronic suicidal community has been against this and attacked anyone that even suggested this for weeks since they hate casual players and yes they will get shit on for being not only hypocrites but for being unrealistic thinking this will save the game
>>738995849If they weren't stupid they would have just released it as a separate mode anyway. What the fuck is this shit where I buy a 70 dollar game with ONE game mode and like 5 maps?
>>738996034Marathon wasn't a $70 release, it was $40.Everything about this game is bizarre imo>Cheap release>Extremely niche genre>Small filesize and well optimized >Active communication from devs>Actually responding to community (all 500 dudes) feedback>All that but made by a AAA dev.Genuinely feels like it slipped in from another dimension. Wish the game was better because everything around it is good on paper but it's a fucking extraction shooter
>>738996302>Genuinely feels like it slipped in from another dimension. Wish the game was better because everything around it is good on paper but it's a fucking extraction shooterGive it a try when PvE drops. It's easily one of the best fps games I've played
>>738996302They had an entire population of mainly PvE focused Destiny 2 players who they just abandoned, the fact that they didnt even ATTEMPT to tap that market is insane to me, absolutely fucking insane. And the fact that they're trying to weasel it in AFTER the game starts to die? What a faggy studio. And I have 3200 in D2 I fucking loved that shit and they just let it die out.
>>738996787This may well be your true and honest verdict but I am obligated to blast post.
>>738990578For whatever it's worth, the team working on Marathon seems very in tune with their community. Probably because they are fighting for their lives, but still.I don't think they would ever pull something like that when their game is on the line. Community wise, they are actually hitting it out of the park with how fast they are adapting to the communities wishes and constantly push updates that make the game better.
>>738996302they wanted to sell it for more, i remember someone posting the survey in the hidden discord channel>small filesizeno shit, it's 4 maps>Active commsThey're doing the bare minimum, they don't deserve praises for it>responding to feedbackThey only fold if they get a lot of shit from it, the game was gonna launch without solo and prox chat until people dogpiled on them>>738997040incredible shill speak mr marketer
>>738997040If their plan is to add maps and not just take the existing maps and make changes to them they 100% will have to eventually remove maps due to queue issues
>>738996898Question.If they pulled the plug after Final Shape, when the plot "ended" regardless of it's actual quality, would you still be this upset or is it because the game faded away after the ending, swirling around the drain.
>>738985397Fuck you, Im black and not even I want that shit. Why would I want to see a nigga robot when I could have some hot fembot instead, fuck you faggot.
>>738987368That's what I don't get, it was originally supposed to be a pve game which is why you get all the cool little mechanics to fuck with the machines like making them target each other with the pieces you can scavenge off other machines and throw, but after they made it pvp they didn't bother adding incentives to not immediately kill people the second they look away from you. There should have been an XP or money bonus from extracting with people you didn't load in with or something.
>>738987782The extraction shooter genre orbits around enabling faggots to steamroll people in fights they cannot win under any circumstances. They don't want PvP, player versus player; they want PvP, predator versus prey. Like the kind of dork who goes to a low level area in WoW to instantly explode people trying to do quests, or the guys who played through dark souls at a minimal soul level so they could invade naked players in undead burg with maxed out gear. If you're playing one of these games and you aren't ultra poopsocking to grind gear/levels, you are playing the game to be a walking loot/dopamine pinata for the guys who are.>>738988940It really is a puzzling move. Their already absurdly bloated budget is going to bloat even more desperately trying to make PvE content to draw in players, and their core playerbase of "PvP players" will pitch a hysterical melty because the PvE mode will draw away their loot pinatas. Somehow I feel like their just not going to get the 7 million or so additional sales they need to break even
>>738997196Fuck you Uncle Tom motherfucker
It'll be trash. The PvE elements are bare bones as is, UESC are only an environmental hazard to distract and make noise. Generally think it'll be over for them if they lean that way, no one will stick around for it.
>>738997009Have fun>>738997089>incredible shill speak mr marketerThanks king>>738997096They will add another map season 3 and I see no reason for why they would need to remove any of the current maps because of it.
>>738997560>for why they would need to remove any of the current maps because of it.Because that adds another queue and they already stated they want to avoid doing that
>>738988131>as long as they are not run by fags that isThey will be.
>>738993751You're gay.
>>738988004>multiplayers are balanced to frustrate you just enough to keep playing and pay for battlepass
>>738997164The best thing bungie could have done for us is make the game delete your character when you finish the Final Shape. "Go be free". Instead there's ANOTHER all powerful universe threatening power to go deal with.
>>738997640They meant having multiple experimental modes, party size ques and ranked mode running at the same time. You're not very bright if you think they will remove 1 out of 3 priority contract maps to make room for their new season 3 map.
>PvE only modeCall Of Duty offers this for free.No $60 paywall for an always-online game that WILL shut down within 10 years.It also has third person so you have no excuse.
>>738982621Oof. Going in a vastly different direction after release never pays off. Sorry Bungiesisters.
>>738997813No they specifically said queues. Adding a new map would add another queue.
>>738983729If I'm not mistaken arc has been replacing the ai voices
>>738997814This absolutely mogs Shart Raiders and Mara-con-job.They really should push this mode with marketing more. It has the potential to top everything.Buggy mess that crashes too much at the moment.
>>738982621that is the ugliest robot i've ever seen in my life.
>>738997860Based autist. Yeah so true king, you're right.
>>738982621>Game sucks dick with friends>Make a solo modeSo it will suck dick alone? Should know that sucking dick isnt fun alone.
>>738997343I honestly can't wait for the full on meltdown from the streamers and pvpspergsThey can(and already did) 1:1 port enemy from destiny and just reskin them into marathon, it would cost close to nothing to just finish up the jobBUT because it's bungie, they'll do the exact opposite, waste time and resources following THE VISION, and then sony will force them to work just like good ol activision did back with D1/Forsaken>>738997813They already have troubles finding matches, what makes you think bungie won't simply overlap both dire marshes or just remove/cycle between night and day mode? S3 map could also be another reskin
>>738997901you can lynch him in game
>>738982621That nigger robot is the reason this game is flopping hard. Does IGN not want it to succeed?
>>738997947I accept your concession.
>>738988980>RodriguezThat's a beanerbot
>>738997814>Huge deformed lovecraftian monstrosities and biological horrors that fly and skitter>Robo-dogs, mechs, and battle droids>soldier fellas and their air support>Giantic skyscraper-sized robot with laser eyes>Regular old zombie fellasThe enemy variety is what makes this mode so good. It's sad that basically nobody cares about it because BO7 is such a massive insult for paying customers that even normie retards avoided it.
>>738997990>S3 map could also be another reskinThey clearly make a distinction between a new map mode like night mode and a brand new map in their communication.
>>738998047<3 (try marathon)
>>738998247I accepted your concession we are good autist
>>738998158Bungie always write articles like that so that they can twist their wording later on and get away with giving you the most sloppily made contentFor example, back when Edge Of Fate was announced, the selling point of it was that the dlc was gonna be a non-linear metroidvania style expansionAll that ended up being just a nonsensical story because all they did was remove the questchain and the metroid part was just "lol you turn into a ball"
>>738982621make it free, im not buying this shit
reinstate the knife to its original stateotherwise idc
>>738982621>have robot designs>make them gay, boring and black(fentanyl phenotype) instead of cool and sexysad
>>738999707cool is fine alone jeet we don't need to masturbate to robots
>>738982621>robot>that phenotype anyway They really can't help themselves.
>>738983464>>738989085So, it's a sequel to 2 but only retcons that Tycho line about how the Tau Ceti colony was razed by the Pfhor? That seems to be the only thing changed, but I haven't dug into the five metric tons of lore logs yet.
>>738982621What are Negrobo's commands?
If you are American there is a high chance there is decent weather by you. Go outside. Don't stay on this site all day again
>>738999924infinity already threw away any conept of continuity because we have trillions of timelines where things did or did not happen
>>738982621Why they make the android so fuck ugly?
>>738999707Destroyer is a man.
>>738988004for me it is the banning - i want to be able to speak . no i do not care if you are offended. if you are going to be offended by anything and everything you will play alone - either because you are a pussy or because i leave.
>>739000705Because they're for war, not sex. The two female ones meant for sex are illegal mods.Triage's issue is that he should have looked like the other Traxus bots, with higher cheekbones so his face would look like a mask. It still does, kinda, but the contrast is missing so he just looks African.
>>739000705Technical reason: making models is haaaaaaard, everything needs to have a human modelWoke reason: conventually attractive faces are a hate crime so that's why robots with mulatto faces exist in this settingNormalfag reason: Um why isn't it human? I can't relate to R2-D2, make it a human in iPhone plastic tacticool gearPlease ignore how popular object heads have been for the last decade
>>738988038why are people pretending hunt showdown doesnt exist when its been the only good extraction shooter for ages? is it millenial starwars brainrot that made arc raiders capture the limelight?
>>738988038>It's more that ARC Raiders specifically appealed to extraction shooter fags who want PvE.That's not a thing. Arc appeals to the 3rd person social PVE chungus shooter, ie. the Helldivers demographic. That's why HL2 popped off that much, and I bet my left nut Arc stole a lot of its playerbase.
>>738982621destiny 3 already underway it seems
>>738988765Tarkov did it.
>>739001027>Um why isn't it human? I can't relate to R2-D2, make it a human in iPhone plastic tacticool gearThis is true and it is annoying especially with nonhumanoid aliens but Marathon always had humanoid cyborgs from the first game. They leaned into it with SOMAish elements about consciousness upload and losing your humanity and such. Would you want your mind uploaded to some bodyless computer?
Pve should get its own unique maps
>>738982621I've wanted a proper PvE extraction game since I played Mass Effect 3's multiplayer. It gave me the idea of something along the lines of ARC Raiders + Helldivers 1/2 before those games were even concepts in the dev's eyes. Unfortunately, nothing like that seems to exist to this day: a "complete operations and get out and extract with the potential for permanent gear/character loss while working towards winning/losing a big galactic war" style game. Alas, such is my misfortune I suppose.
>>739000705because trannies hate beauty>"OUR CHARACTERS LOOK UGLY AND BORING?????? GO LOOK AT PORN CHUD"always the same excuse>>738999756it's ok troon xister we get itrope day soon
>>738982621That robot is a nigger. Big fucking nigger nose is the first tell. They just cannot help themselves.
>>738982621great, PvEfags ruin yet another video game
>>739002237do elaborate
>>739001743 >because trannies hate beauty You people are so fucking predictable it’s unreal. Every time a character doesn’t look like a Korean gacha doll you immediately spin up the same three buzzwords and start shrieking about “DA MESSAGE” like it’s 2016 again.Marathon has *always* had weird, off-putting, utilitarian designs. Half the old Bungie art looks like rejected medical equipment that learned how to shoot. The new bot looks like industrial hardware with a faceplate, not your goon folder. That’s not “ugly because politics,” that’s just sticking to a cold sci‑fi aesthetic.Also you’re posting some random producer like she personally sculpted every cheekbone in Blender. Senior producer isn’t in there tweaking jaw sliders, anon. She’s scheduling meetings and arguing about scope creep.If your immersion collapses because a robot doesn’t make your dick twitch, that’s on you. Go boot up Stellar Blade and calm down.
>>738987782Once upon a time little zoomer, video games were populated almost entirely by white males. They understood we were all there to have fun, and the occasional griefer (a smelly friendless giga-autismo) was banned from the server.Then they took away servers and made everything matchmakingThen they filled the matchmaking with niggers by making the games and interfaces easierThen they took away skill based matchmaking and created gambling addiction in children by purposefully letting you win your first few matches and then purposefully forcing you to loseThere is no skill anymore, no chance, no 51 vs 49 victories. There's whatever the algorithm decides the outcome of your next game will be, based on what abuse will be the most profitable for the company running the game, what will make you spend on the next microtransaction, and the entire playerbase is a bunch of dipshit assholes incapable of pattern recognition who think the peak human experience is shanking someone on the street for no reason and ragebaiting in NBA2K. It isn't fun to play against other humans anymore, because when you do, you're subject to all of this nonsense. PVE is paradoxically more fun despite being the AI literally being 100% under the devs control, because it doesn't yet contain the addictbrained gambling psyops. AI enemies are puzzles with solutions to be figured out, not niggers.
>>738987782>when multiplayer games became a thingYes, that's the point
>>739002482>point to the elephant in the room>xister has a melty>*wall of text* how do you explain both Tarkov and Hunt having bigger, more stable playerbases and also being almost a decade old and 250 million dollars cheaper?even normalfags don't wanna play with floydbot and the glow lips androgynous doll
>>739002482To be fair if any character should look like a Korean doll and not a bulbous charicture of an amerimutt it would be a robot designed to look human.
>>738982621It's too late. The wipe is coming soon, and will bring the death of this game.
>>738990550I've never played Destiny 2, and I like the UESC, so I'm fine with that.
>>739002631>india: half a billion (36%)That's terror.
>marathon insists on keeping their playerbase>by deleting their account and forcing them to start from 0LMAO
>>739000912>Because they're for war, not sexThey can be for sex.
>>739004912If you think its bad now with only 36% of india having access to the internet imagine how its going to be when that number doubles
>>739000894I remember insulting so many people daily in multiplayer games, it's unthinkable today.
>>739005076And that's a good thing. There's no path forward when your vault if full of gold/purple items, when you have more than 1 million credits and that you maxed all of your factions (and it is not hard to achieve, even for an average player). Forced wipe and new content is what keep an extraction shooter exciting
>>739005084How would you redeem your SekGen coupon?>free female biomata servant, the most luxurious model on offer, with a custom designed appearance and personality chosen by you>fully custom body that you can upload your mind into
>destiny 2 one of the best pve shooters dies for a shitty pvp extraction shooter nobody wanted>the shitty pvp extraction shooter starts to copy/paste in shitty versions of destiny 2s pve to try and save it
>>739005536CopeIf the only way to keep it interesting is to reset everyone to zero every couple months, then your game is shit, has no content, and isn't balanced. The devs were tasked with making a product that could maintain interest indefinitely, and instead they made a product where you can do everything there is to do in a couple weeks of casual play, by your own admission.
>>739005550>free female biomata servantI don't think they do that. They make bodies, not minds.
>>739004912Three more indians gain access to the internet every second.
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>>738982621Should have just made a story rich single player and coop campaign bungie you stupid fucks fuck you
>>739005817>>destiny 2 one of the best pve shootersCan someone give a quick rundown of how Destiny ended up becoming beloved? I didn't pay attention after the mediocre launch of the first game.
>>739006562That was early on before they got greedy and they raped the game with the shop
>>738987782>Competitive playCompetitive play hasn't existed since matchmaking was designed to FORCE your W/L ratio to 50%. Whether or not you win is completely determined by a spreadsheet
>>738982621The gameplay is fucking atrocious
>>738997701This, and when the game becomes old, the only people left hosting servers will be the same 4 niggas who play special modes like handguns only and that shit.
I see a face like that and immediately feel the urge to give the devs $3.7 billions dollars. I must be CEO material.
>>739006897I think it's really good, actually. What's actually bad is the progression.
>>739007820this is ungodly
>>739005536>having to start from zero and grind your face off on all the reputations just to see the new seasonal late game content because these games always atrophy the fuck out of the early gamemiss me with this shit, retard.
>>739006341CyberAcme does that iirc, just pirate their software
>>739007820>splatoon but even gayer
>>738987480>Sweaty Meta-Gamer >because I liked playing activities that were non-matchmade and required pattern recognitionwere you too autistic to play with a group?
>>738988131People don't want to play on dedicated servers.
>>739000894>ak .>iI don't want to listen to you. I want to hurt you with a ban system instead. I won.
>>739008945is that what the corpo marketer man told you?
>>738988168>tarkov fags and similar groups MUST be aware that they're mascochistic weirdos right?They never are. No matter what genre, the comp tryhard retard always thinks he's the majority.
>>738983159He is the most diverse robot.
>>739007820why would i play this dying slop when hunt exists?
>>738985397Because any other facial features look better. Unless you count Abos as part of "any other", which technically speaking they are.
>>739008945Yeah, thats why Faceit is not popular at all
>>738982621I hope they make idiots pay for it just like Tarkov
>>739007926Level requirement to play cryo can be achieved in a few sessions and nothing forces you to max faction progress
>>738982621get that gorilla nigger out of my face
>>739003767this look so much betterwhy can't westerners get the cue?
>>739007820I didn't notice we're friends on steam, we should play together sometime in season 2
>>739000912>we decided to waste all that additional material on tube lips and a mile wide nose because war Yeah, right.
>>739010813I'd pick George Droyd over this weeb pedo shit
>>739010946You don't have to show everyone how american you are.
>>739010946>having such a shit tasteI really hope this is bait.
>>739011056Sry but I find gacha slop aesthetic absolutely revulsing, keep your shit out of western games
>>739010813Because one is a school anime friend simulator and the other a weird futuristic copro-horror scifi, you are allowed to have more than one style for your games even if Asia hasn't discovered this yet, hope that helpsluv Aigis, deserved a better series
>>739011218I'm glad your modern westerners "games" are all dying thenthese gay, soulless designs are literally filtering themselves out of the industry
>>739011334Yeah sure bro, western video game industry is dying, too bad it's only happening in your head
>>739011387>western video game industry is dyinggayshit sure is, no one wants this >too bad it's only happening in your headimagine being this delusionalkek
>>738987782No it wasn't, competitive play was gatekept by things like finding a team and using IRC and Ventrilo. Every game had a public server browser and most of the people who actually wanted to be competitive in a game were in private servers scrimming against other teams. Matchmaking is the cancer that killed real competitive gaming. Funneling every retard into a competitive game mode is retarded.
>>738987782Personally I just don't have the speed I once did, so PvP is me dead 90% of the time.
>>738982621add a story mode and I'll consider
>>739011056>such a
>>738982621damn, what an ugly ass fucking game
>>738982621My lack of interest in this game was not because it's PvP.
>>738988980>Bender Bending Rodriguez, who was built in Tijuana
