Is this the only time in history that an action game had a long range weapon that was fun to use?I've been waiting for a game to get this archetype right for decades.>inb4 PandoraPandora was good for Jealousy and Grief, what's the point if 90% of it's moveset is slow and unfun?
>>738983269Funbox is hybrid range, it has melee and ranged attacks, so not really a "long range" weapon.
>>738984567It has to be since you wouldn't be able to do Izunas Drop or Obliterations, whoch would mean one weapon out of 4 (+2) would be barred from the score bonus associated with those.
>>738983269>I've been waiting for a game to get this archetype right for decades.It blows my mind that DMC is supposed to be Close Range + Long Range, only for the Melee side to be mega shilled. Guess its a side effect of Japaneses and their katana obsessions.
and what would be the name of this game?
Another thread of Ninja Gaiden fags crying that their game isn't popular on /v/?
Remnant 2 has pretty good long range weapons
>>738985079Ninja Gaiden 4.
>Have trouble even switching between 3 weapons in DMC>NG4 gives you 6 at the same time.My brain can't handle iiiiiiiiitttt
>>738985079The greatest action game of all time.
>>738985079https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvSMv9frD64
I liked using Lady in DMC4SE. I'm sure she was probably bad in the higher difficulties, but on normal it felt like she was really cheap with her long range moves.
Long Range attacks are very hard to balance because turns out that when allowed to be powerful, they become inherently superior to melee. Just like IRL!Hence why NG4's fun box's ranged attack are light attacks.
>>738986214melee attacks are better irl
>>738986231https://youtube.com/watch?v=Syj6a0Qp420
>>738986728Really faggot, you post some zoomer shit instead of Indy?
>>738983269Bayonetta?
>>738986780My bad https://youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs
>>738986780>he hasn't seen the art of self defenseyou're missing out on pure kino, junior!
>>738983269Pandora was such wasted potential, its the coolest weapon ever but all the moves fucking suck.
>>738986836bayonetta barely counts but the guns do feel really good.They're so good that I barely use any of the other weapons.
>>738985079Yakumo gaiden(aka. Yakumo's side story)
>>738987334>barely countshuh? All hold modifiers (except ice skates) are ranged attacks and so are weaves.
>>738986728>>738986780>Not watching Surviving Edged Weapons
>>738983269It's sad how this game was forgotten so fucking fast. It's only like 6 months old and it's like it never even happened.
>>738983269I kinda wanna do a MN run only with that weapon just to see if the melee attacks are good enough, when playing normally I'd only use it for the bloodbind X attack
>>738989550It's grouping abilities are insanely good, the BB X is okay but it leaves you kinda stationaryThe melee BB attacks are really good for shredding and chasing down bosses
The DLC Sickle's BB ranged is insanely useful. Its pure utility, but you basically gets to stun enemies for free.
can i just say how bad ng2 is whenever youre not fighting ninjas holy shit
>Bumping your own thread from page 10It's pretty telling how people would rather discuss Dustborn, a pretty mediocre action game released recently too, over Ninja Gaiden 4.
>>738992432>/v/ is more eager to shitpost than actually talking about vidya gamesWhat's new?
>>738992432i'm literally playing through the game and it's not my thread you little schizothis game falls so hard when you do anything but fight humansalso of course /v/ would love to post about bad games circlejerking on how w*ke they are than play video games what are you trying to say
>>738992526My point is that NG4 is such a bad game /v/ would rather talk about a mediocre one. Even Wanted:Dead gets way more love.
>>738983269Otogi 2 had a half tree guy who fought with a knife wheel that he used as a ranged weapon, tossing it out to bash people or pulling its knife spokes out to stab people with, and he was probably the most fun character in that game.Zone of the Enders is also mostly ranged weapons and they're all fun.
>>738992561>playing Smegma versionLMAO. Deserved.
>>738992736Ninja Gaiden 4 is the best Ninja Gaiden game and one of the best games ever made.
>>738992736Or maybe /v/ is full of jeets and shitters that don't even cares about video games? Case in point, I just saw a coomer thread.
>>738992736No sane man likes Wanted: Dead. One guy thinks Itagaki made it so he has to like it. Itagaki was at home drunk for its entire development. Maybe that's a good thing after Devil's Third. Playing Wanted: Dead for 5 minutes makes it obvious that the game blows, and it doesn't "get better later." It doesn't really change at all. At best it'll have a minigame so the player doesn't have to do more shitty 360 cover shooting.Ninja Gaiden 4 is a good game. The flow of dealing with groups of enemies with attacks like GT, Izuna, OT and shit is maintained as much or more as it was going from NGB to NG2, but combat is consistently fun and interesting. Boss fights are the highlights they're supposed to be, not a part you suffer through to get to a fight you like. Playing it the first time, I thought NGB had a legendary perfect quality that this game couldn't match. Then I thought about fighting a helicopter and a skeleton and two big worms and realized NG4 is just more fun.
>>738992949>thinking the og ng2 makes non human fights funkek keep pretending you actually played these games
>>738993165>One guy thinks Itagaki made it so he has to like it.Thinking that one guy in a team of at least a dozen of people is enough to make a game good is peak delusion lmao.
>>738990145Solitaire and Kage-Hiruko have some interesting attacks on BB shuriken that I never end up using because killing guys ASAP is just more effective than setting up.
>>738992783>Zone of the EndersYou're not fooling me bc I played itThe only useful ranged thing was the scatter-tail shot and the ranged grab, it was nothing like a satisfying full moveset>>738992561>>738993189they're fine imo just don't use Dragon Sword or Kusarigama and you're goldenIf you're really struggling with the ligma version just use the greatsword>>738993597Setting up is better on stages where you know multiple rounds of enemies are coming, or in Purgatory
>>738993597Soliraire and Kage's shuriken are very good against boss.
>>738992736>Even Wanted:Dead gets way more lovekek what the hell is this nigga talking about
>>738993760At least in ZOE1 the homing dash shot is stupidly good and basically a necessity for lategame enemies cuz they will just input read all your melee options.