nothing proves more how fucking retarded the average gamer is than the people pretending that FF13 is actually le gudIt was shit back then and its shit now
>>738987504Shut the fuck up, nobody cares. But for the record, it was and is great.
>>738987632Shut the fuck up dicksneeze, FF XIII has always been ass and nothing has changed. Revisionist niggerbitch.
>>738987504It's just pre-transition zoomers grappling with the fact everything in their lifetime is and will be worse than the dregs of what came before.
>>738987632>it was and is great.>shit combat>shit story>shit characters>shitty art style>no overworld mapits crap
>>738987925In the spirit of fairness, I'll give it this: pretty good soundtrack, very memorable.
>>738987925>>shit combat>>shit story>>shit characters>>shitty art stylebut enough about FF I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, X, XI
>>738987925Art style and music is good, the environements in particular are some of the best looking ever
>>738987504really good soundtrack wasted on garbage game.
i like lightningthat's about it
>>738988675>the environements in particular are some of the best looking everah yes truly, some incredible gray metallic corridors
The memes about 360 getting a box set port of it were more memorable than the game
>>738987504Ff13 is bad, but complaining that it's linear is such a retarded pseud take that your opinion isnt worth taking seriously.
>>738988847Explain how.
>>738988801>more memorable than the gameI legitimately cannot remember what this hot garbage was about. Cocoon? L'cie? Fal'cie? Gran Pulse? Orphan? Just words words words and a lot of people shouting angry. Fuck it was so bad.
>>738988861NTA but the vast majority of videogames are necessarily linear by design, it is indeed a pseud take.
>>738987504Just goes to show how bad FF nowadays when people yearn for when it was only as bad as XIII.
>>738987925>>shit combatIts literally better than 90% of the entire series and the entire trilogy is the best iteration of ATB Square ever made. It's also more challenging and interesting than your favorite FF, it beats the fuck outta FFX and IX.I literally say this as a huge FF fag who grew up with the whole series, and whose first game was IV
>>738988910>calling out a game being linear in a genre all about exploration and choice/consequence is a pseud takelmaoDo you guys even know what pseud means?Not to mention people dont call ff13 linear because its all corridors they call it linear because there is nothing in those corridors or between them.No hubs, no cities, no NPCs, no sidequests, no stores no NOTHING for long stretches
>>738988717nice cherry picking faggot
>>738989002>no sidequestsSo you didn't even play the game you're criticizing.
>>738989002>all about choice/consequencesLiterally never ever was a thing, didn't read the rest of your post, your premise is wrong. You think every JRPG is a Souls game?
>>738989006Gran Pulse is gorgeous too. FF XII has too many core issues, but the soundtrack and art direction were pretty nice.
>>738989006That also looks like shitNo contrast, no colors, generic "advanced' architecture.Looks like a 3DMark Demo>>738989039I did play it.There are 10+ hour stretches of nothing but main quest corridor walking. Learn to read you subhuman filth before replying to me.>>738989071>Literally never ever was a thingWhen did /v/ become this fucking stupid?
>>738987504i liked it
>>738987504I hate ff13 but I have to say that this game has the best UI design that I ever seen in nipslop vidya ever
>>738989002This is why I said complaining about linearity is a pseud talking point.
>>738989238Explain whats wrong with what I said instead of spewing buzzwords.You cant btw, everything I have said has been said many many times by people who actually played the game. Even SE acknowledged it and they course corrected with next mainline game being full open world.
>>738989328>many times by people who actually played the gameNTA but>Argument ad populum,That the best you got?
why is every argument on the net now like a debate club? nigga I don't know what ad populum means im not from rome 2000 years ago, speak english, and stop turning LITERALLY everything into a debate
>>738988963I'd actually say the big issue with the combat is that it takes too long to take off the training wheels and Paradigm Cancelling isn't really hinted at (And breaks the game because you basically multiply your action economy by 1.5x, making it actually a good idea to have two identical paradigms so you can shift without changing configuration to Break/Burst harder) and that because of that Synergist isn't really that good because Shrouds exist and you not only can but is incentivized to by the Ranking system to finish battles LONG before a shroud would wear off (Sab is still good because you know why.).IMO it beats IX (The battle system isn't its strong point), not X (Bias here,I liked CTB enough that i actually like Command Mission.) and not X-2, though XIII is certainly faster then X-2 if that is the merit you think edges XIII as being better then thats not something i'd diasagree with, XIII is fast as fuck when you know what you are doing, but i think X-2 works because it is slower and more purposeful and the Job System>Paradigm Shift, particularly on International where you get more options to crossjob commands due new plates and accessories.I would also say XIII-2 is marginally better balanced, but the Cancelling nerf is a point against it, but even with that nerf i also beat the Optional Super Boss (The Cieth) by accident using the Cancelling on XIII-2 first time i played it only realizing it was a superboss after the fact so i don't know what that says about how hard you can keep momentum between games if you know the tricks.
>>738988847There's linear, and then there is literal hallway level design where every branch is so short that you can already see it on the mini map, and to top it off they arbitrarily lock your leveling tree until you get far enough into the story.
>>738989558> bro is seriously angry that the council won't accept "Jontron told me it was bad" as an argument
>>738989615>you can already see it on the mini mapyou can already see where it ends on the mini map*
>>738987504I liked it back then, I like it now.No, it's not perfect, but it's fun and atmospheric. The sequels do gameplay better.
>>738989558that guy is a known schizoevery shitty FF has one
square enix are clearly embarrassed by the ff13 games, ps4/5 to this day still do not have the games even though every single ff but 11 is available to buy on it
>>738989741oh yeah? whats my name? except I don't have one because YOURE the crazy one, buzzword slinger (which tells me you're either dumb or a fed)
>>738989741Nta but people who talk like this are always unwell. 4chan has millions of users, and you're going to pretend you can isolate, profile, and track the "singular ff13 defender". Newsflash, ff13 has 75% positive ratings on steam which is a lot more than 1 single guy
>>738989921newfag lmao
>>738989921>4chan has millions of usersbro this isn't 2016tens of thousands now
>>738989741You are what's known as an "anti-schizo" schizo
>>738987632Curious to what your top 10 games of all time looks like for you to say this is a great game
>>73898997580% are bots as wellI can easily spot people like aquajeet, barry etc etc I dont know why people pretend its hard.
>>738990076>I can easily spot aquajeet, the Indian and sole user who avatarfags as aquaWow, you're like, really smart anon....tell us, can you spot Saucy and Moose too!?!?
>>738990319Make up your mind.Embarrassing display.
>>738988546>my identity is being a contrarian
>>738989006im sorry this is supposed to be good looking?
>>738989039did you? your side quests are just kill monster X in the gran pulse plane
>>738990403It is
>>738987504I loved it personally. Best world and lore in an FF after FF10, and the second best party after FF9.
>>738990359No, you're conflating 2 things>I can spot obvious sore thumbs who post images to punctuate and announce their presenceIs not the same as>I can spot a user based on their opinion of FFXIIiYou couldn't spot Barry, Eric, Darren, or ACFag if your life depended on it
>>738989741Merely pointing it out netted you three unstable replies.
>>738987504It's not good. The graphics back then were awesome (except for the hands) and I enjoyed the story quite a lot. Rest was pretty bad.
>>738990927FF15-kun is pretty easy to spot since there's only one man alive who likes FF15.
>>738987504>mfw remembering there was NOTHING but FF13 trilogy for that generation
>>738991740Me in that era
>>738987504Graphically speaking, it was WAY ahead of its time. If you didn't enjoy it tough shit move on faggot.I will admit that it's not a perfect game. I'd say it's OKAY. Not Good. But not terrible either. The end-game and gil-making could have absolutely been revised some, too.But yeah the OST and the Art direction was super good.They did something amazing back then with the hardware at the time.
>>738988963problem with 13's combat is it was built with bosses in mind. I certainly didn't have fun staggering every single goddamn enemy to be done with combat as quickly as possible.
>>738991660>only one man alive who likes ff15The first half of ff15 is incredible thoughever.
>My FF13 copy on the 360 came with 3 fucking discs to complete the gameGod damn.
>>738991981BIG ASSETS60 hours in a linear not open world RPG is pretty crazy ngl. 60 hours with 0 wandering around is crazy
>>738987504Shut up normie fag, no one cares what u think.
>>738987925>shit combatObjectively false, it's actually one of the best in the franchise.>shit storyObjectively false, it's not on par with 7 or 9 but it's still massively better than anything before 4 or after 10>shit charactersObjectively false, they're actually some of the best in the franchise.>shitty art styleCompletely subjective.>no overworld mapThis is literally the only thing you got right.
>>738992185Yes. And 20 of those are tutorials.
>>738992367Sazh is the only good character in 13, vanille only got good in 13-1. Snow and Hope are terrible and drag the entire game down
>>738992606Wait a minute, that voice....
>>738987504I bet you are the average gacha player..
>>738987504FF13 was so bad that I sold my PS3 and it together the day after I beat it for $150 and never played a console or a final fantasy game again. It's been 17 years and I still haven't budged on either.
>>738992606Problem is everyone but Sazh was directed to voice an anime character. Sazh was a comedic black guy who actually managed some deep pathos when script wanted him to.
>>738990360Not an argument, JRPG goyslopper
>>738989127FF13 looks objectively great, you are a soulless contrarian nigger>There are 10+ hour stretches of nothing but main quest corridor walkingLiterally every FF (and basically every JRPG) is a corridor simulator, subhuman NPC parrot
>>738993013The dripfeed of battle mechanics in the first few hours kills any desire to replay itI'm shocked there isn't a mod that gives you the basic crystarium right away instead of waiting til Bresha
>>738993013FF13 is your first jrpgnot gonna read your retarded zoomer rebuttable
>>738987686> Revisionist The fact that you think opinions on a game are something that is set in stone and can't naturally change from whatever the hivemind thought at the time is fucking hilarious. That sums up every goyllennial
>>738993210Opinions on a game are based on what the game actually is. FF13 is shit. You have opinions on Vanille after 1200 hours spent reading doujins. That doesn't change how bad the game is.
>>738987504Forced myself to finish it. Every character besides maybe Sazh was insufferable and written like millenial cringeslop.
>>738987504Can you explain why without sounding retarded yourself?
>>738993525It's the only good one in the series, JRPG's are a shit genre for retards in general. Now seethe
>>738987504why does FFXIII still look so good to this day?
>>738987504I started replaying it for the first time since release>self-checkout shops suck>cocoon's environments suck>characters are too close to the camera>cinematography is total ass and frequently doesn't convey half of what the chapter summaries indicate they were trying to>only good part of the soundtrack is the main theme and the occasional song that incorporates the melody>low difficulty and only directly controlling one character makes the combat very non-engagingtoo much focus on the characters, not enough on the world
>>738997256I'd say one neat thing with cocoon people underrate is the Dyson Sphere design and how you can sometimes see the places you been to or are going to you squint. I feel it didn't do enough with that really and it is REALLY easy to miss.Cocoon was such missed potential and now people hate it on principle because it is Tutorialville.
>>738997518If they gave the player just an hour or two to walk around bodhum or other parts of cocoon in the beginning it would have done wonders for the game's reception
Literally Perfect Goddess
>>738989697I fucking hated it back in the day, got to the point that I was skipping cutscenes. Fair to say I was a full on hater.I'm in middle of playing it again, giving it a proper chance this time. Enjoying it way more now as an old man. The chocobo theme is pretty underwhelming but otherwise it has a great soundtrack.The writing can be corny as hell, but it's charming in a way.
