>The game that officially killed the Zelda seriesWas it worth it?
>>738993430TOTK is still better than garbage like WW, TP and SS
>>738993430Wind Waker wasn't worth it, no.
>>738993504Not even close>>738993558It was though
OP here, wrong pic, saaorryI'm transfemme btw!~
>The game that officially mindbroke OP
>>738993596No, Wind Waker is entirely at odds with its design and no best version of it exists.
>>738993596Aonuma has been killing the series since the gamecube era you stupid faggot. he's a hack
>>738993430BOTW is what killed it. TOTK just confirmed that there's no hope for a revival anytime soon.
>>738993430Zoomer spotted. WW killed the series
I hate how hand-holdy ALTTP was, everything after was even worse somehow
>>738993430>the gameyou mean the 4 games
>>738993825see>>738993823
>>738993430That's not Wind Waker
>>738993823WW still had SOVL. BOTW has this.
>>738993430That was Wind Waker. Then Twilight Princess put a nail in its coffin since it was even worse. Fucking terrible games liked only by subhuman gamecube trannies.
>>738993939Retarded tranny
>>738994058I can't see what the fuck is happening that game is so ugly
>>738993742The only thing BOTW killed was my heterosexuality
>>738993823What the fuck was he thinking?
>>738993939Wind Waker is fucking soulless jank, and you lack self awareness to post pure soulful personalized jank.
>>738994089Stop masturbating
>>738994159>>738994104two very contradicting posts
>>738994058We don't sign our posts here
>>738994104I rather fuck Ruto (loli brat version)
>>738993939BOTW has more soul than TWW ever had
>>738994279Ganondorf is so lucky
Something something eric
>>738994178Trannies already existed when BotW released and that's because they were created because they only had gamecube as kids so they had to play faggot enabling games like TTYD, Wind Waker and Melee
>>738994350>cubefag to botwtranny pipeline
>>738993609>Wind Waker killed the Zelda SeriesNo, you can think it's a shit game, but it didn't kill the series, because the series didn't decided to get stuck forever in the Wind Waker world, after WW (2002) they made Twilight Princess (2006) and Skyward Sword (2011) who had nothing to do with WW.Meanwhile, after BotW (2017) there hasn't been any new 3D Zelda games that are NOT set in that world, it's been 9 fucking years.We had FOUR games set in that world. >>738993856
>>738995575
How can it have killed zelda if we got echoes of wisdom afterwards? If they continue making the next zelda in BOTW style then it’s dead, sure, but objectively as of now it’s not
>>738995575>We had FOUR games set in that world.Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Minish Cap, Four Swords Adventure
>>738993430If only Zelda continued making Skyward Sword sequels/clones and stayed true to it's roots would we have another series failing into irrelevance like metroid!
>>738998138How horrible
>>738995575If you can't enjoy Botw and Totk then you have bad taste.
>>738994279W-what does she look like from the front?
>>738997893Windwaker is clearly not the same world you twat
>>738998745Minish cap*Fuck me im too tired for this shit
>every game in the series has good and bad things>current alpha generation NEED to hate something and follow sloptubers opinions as gospel, make hourly nintendo hate threads that works as 24/7 advertisement Whats with alpha kids trying this hard to be contrarians just to fit it here this last decade?
>>738998745Cartoon shit infected the franchise. Totk doesn't have the exact same world anyway either, and neither does the Hyrule Warriors. You say "same world" but what you clearly mean is "same gameplay".
>>738993430>make incredible, influential game: BOTW>decide "yeah if i just re-release BOTW again but with a stupid new gimmcik then surely everyone will love it!"
When did and what made The Legend of Zelda become a target for schizos and shitposters?
>>738999174>make incredible, influential game: OoT>decide "yeah if i just re-release OoT again but with a stupid new gimmcik then surely everyone will love it!"First time sprout?
>>738999253Becoming more popular than whatever tranny Sony moviegame OP worships.
>>738999174and it worked, because I was sick of Ocarina of Time clones by the time we get to Skyward Sword
>>738999174Aonumale and Fujobayashi simply found a new game formula to rehash until the end of time.
>>738993823>hmm I wonder what this does
>>738995059that's you eric
>>738993430>>738993504TotK is the current BEST Zelda game
>>738997614WW through TP was less than half a decade.BOTW through now is nearly a whole decade.
>>738999253BotW actually mind broke them
I don't know, I think it's fine if you ignore the underground shit, but every time I want to replay the game I remember how you start out with fucking 0 stamina and then I lose interest.
>>738999174>Aonumale has objectively no idea why people like Zelda games and can only blindly attempt to clone the successful ones and slap more gimmicks onYeah...? Is this the first time you've noticed? He's been blaming "da Ocarina formula" for all the franchise's past failings.
Should've stayed a DLC
>>739000231>Aonumale has objectively no idea why people like Zelda gamesexplain the success of Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, do go aheadnb4 Switch console salesBotw OUTSOLD THE CONSOLE ITSELF DURING THE FIRST YEAR that's right, more people bought the game than could get a hold of a console to play it on, the GAME was that sought after, the GAME drove the CONSOLE sales, and more people got a Switch to play Botw than they ever did an N64 for Oot, a Gamecube for WW, a Wii for TP,
>>739000493nonono! you can't talk about it in any metric! you just can't! Please stop! It'll ruin my meticulously crafted arguments!
>>739000493He got lucky in that the thing he thought people were asking for when they talked about the "sense of adventure" in older Zelda games aligned with the thing normalfags love in games, the ability to "choose" what order in which to do the giant checklist of content, 95% of which is optional. But if this is what a "sense of adventure" means then Zelda never had it, so he clearly still hasn't managed to grasp what people enjoyed about the past games.
>>739000493>more people bought the game than could get a hold of a console to play it onIt was also on wii u, but then again, who the fuck even had a wii u?
>>738993504>>738993823WW was squarely the death sentence of Zelda and the subsequent Wii games dug it in. BotW thankfully allowed it to recover its dignity, but at the cost of the interesting structure that allowed it to be the peak of gaming.>>738993825You're also right, and the game really doesn't get called out for this close to enough, thought thankfully LA and OoT immediately dropped that game's "mark everything on the map" approach and rightly made finding dungeon entrances important again. I'm glad that LttP didn't has as much influence on subsequent games as it could have.
>>739000493>successThey're day 1 funko pop DLC slop; they failed as games. Simple as.
>>739000839Splatoon 1 is probably the best game Nintendo put out in that entire generation and I consider myself lucky to have been there while it happened.Too bad about the rest of the console.
>>738995575>after WW (2002) they made Twilight Princess (2006) and Skyward Sword (2011) who had nothing to do with WWThat's bullshit, they're all in the same style of linear event driven bullshit, as opposed to the exploration focused, item gated style of proper classic Zelda. If you can't see the toxic influence of WW's 'Anouma-style' then you are blind.
>>738995575I need an "I'm gonna starve" patrick meme edit but with the BotW era games
>>739001201And exploration with no item gates past the tutorial and thus no particular reason to do 90% of anything at any particular time is soooo much better?
uh oh melty
>>738999515>Ocarina of Time clonesI would fucking love it if this kind of thing actually existed. Imaging a new game that actually played and was structured close to how OoT is. That would be amazing, but I'm genuinely not aware of even a single real attempt at it.
>>739001297based mature checklist gamer
>>738993430This game gave us Rauru, don't careGonna plap his ass 24/7
>>739001357I didn't say I need a reason to play the game itself. I said it's boring when there's no reason for the order you do things to line up how it does beyond arbitrary player preference. In, like, an Elder Scrolls game, the stuff you beeline for from the start of the game is stuff you expect to enable a playstyle you want to try, it's not just the bites of content you want to do entirely arbitrarily.
>>739001297>And exploration with no item gates past the tutorial and thus no particular reason to do 90% of anything at any particular time is soooo much better?It's not at all ideal, but yes, it is distinctly better than making Zelda into hyper restrictive story driven nonsense that it never had any business being.
>>739000820>normalfags don't want linear cinema slopbased department, industry is full heal
>>739000839>It was also on wii uThose don't factor into the numbers I'm citing, I was merely talking about the Switch version. Botw had a higher attach rate than the console for nearly a whole year.
>>739001620>any order to any game elements is "linear story slop"Congrats on buying into the marketing. I'm sure you'll love BOTW 3, 4, and beyond.
>>739001551>it's boring when there's no reason for the order you do things to line up how it does beyond arbitrary player preferenceno it isn't
I am playing it for the first and its alright for an adventure game imo, fun to do shrines and collect shit, but what about the more new Zelda? I will prob buy it after I finish this one but I am worried that you have to build a lot of shit, I usually dont like games where you have to do that.So pls compare them for me TOTK vs BOTW
>>739001580Absolutely not. A system with both item and story gates that overuses story gates is far closer to a system of primarily item gates than it is to a mostly gateless system.
>>739001241kek
>>739001551You see, I don't even disagree without your point, it's just that Anouma-style games are so abhorrent and counter to what Zelda is about on a basic level that even games as flawed as BotW are still significantly better and capable of actually offering meaningful discovery in ways that a game like Twilight Princess utterly shits itself at doing.
>>738993430At least it came out. 3D Mario hasn't had a game in a decade
>>739001703Yes it is. Choices lose their appeal if they're precisely calculated to never make me feel like I'm losing out on some other option.
>>739001297as opposed to the reason to play Wind Waker, like, uhhh, well, hmm..
>>739001729TOTK is a literal DLC with a shitty minecraft mode
>>739001414Then you're nose blind, just replay Oot until you get sick of it I suppose.
>>739001921You want the grappling hook because it lets you get more places in the game world. Specific places that you could not get before by any means.Same with the leaf, same with the hookshot, same with every item everyone actually liked in every previous Zelda game, not just Wind Waker. People liked getting items because those items let them do new shit. Not just because getting items feels good.
>>739001551>I said it's boring when there's no reason for the order you do things to line up how it does beyond arbitrary developer preference.100%
>>739001984>no actual answers because he thinks "OoT clone" means "any game that resembles OoT more than BotW".Lmao
>>739001687>marketingt. never actually played Oot, MM, WW, TP, and SS
>>738993430Fuck off Eric
>>739002036Huh? But if doing things in the order the developer wants is inherently boring then games were all inherently boring until they became open world. That's clearly wrong. BotW defenders really don't like games at all, huh?
>>739001729Totk is superior, better exploration, better abilities, caverns, three overworlds, better dungeons
>>739002091I played all of them. Calling OoT or MM "linear" is like calling Zelda 1 "open world". It's something you only hear out of marketers and people who don't know they fell for marketing.
>>739002034Skyward Sword did have a great grapplehook, but when I want to do grapplehook I would Just Cause or Spiderman.
>botw mindrapes snoys>elden ring mindrapes totktranniesWhat's next?
>>739002245>post a physical copy of a Japanese Zelda game or you haven't really played them>me though? Well I'm a true Zelda fan because I refuse to critique Aonumale's diarrhea so I don't have to prove anything
>>739001551>IT DOESN'T PLAY LIKE BETHSHIT SO IT'S SLOP!!!!!Not beating the allegations.
>>739002192But MM is linear, OOT did have some wiggle roomUnless you wanna go full gay semantics and compare it to hallway simulators like MGS4
>>739001913That's exactly how the weapon system works though, what are you talking about?
>>739002347>bethshitMaybe Skyrim or oblivion, but even Morrowind has the exact same dynamic where the stuff you go for first actually matters, and Morrowind is a relatively decent game.
>>739002034That's what the cooking system is for
>>739002034>deku leaf>it's just worse paragliderlol
>>739002402OK unc
>>739002308No, unlike tears of the tendies, it did win GOTYKinda sad for a sequel to the most popular zelda game
>"officially killed the series">when echoes of wisdom and age of imprisonment were released after itweird definition of "killed" you got there, OP
>>739002131Getting warmer, keep going, retard
>>738994279Ganon (pig version) is so lucky...
>>739002397Huh? Anon, my post is anti-BOTW. Every "choice" in BOTW is designed so that you don't really miss out on the thing you don't choose, at most you delay it. The weapon system is a decent demonstration of this, the odds of your weapon selection affecting what enemies you can fight in the first place rather than just how fast you kill them is near zero.
>>739002383>But MM is linearMM has a short and largely linear main quest, but its thoroughly item gate based in ways that allow a lot of what you'd call "wiggle room", and most of the game consists of various side quests that are the real meat of it, and they naturally are very open ended.
>>739002551If "games were shit until open world" is anywhere close to the truth in your mind, I think your opinion is completely worthless.
>>739002581no, you're stupid, you are given the ability to choose what weapon set to focus on and have an entire cooking system to plan out how to augment your abilities
>>739002596There you go with the bullshit again, that's why they're side quests nigger, they're on the side of the main linear quest.
>>739002192>I played Oot, MM, WW, TP, and SS>they were linear but I wont accept itok
>>739002720maybe the main quest was the side quests we picked up along the way
>>739002603sore loser kek
>>739002581You miss all the shots you don't take
>>739002596>you can get the area map in any ordergot 'em!
>>739002720You're bullshitting. The game expects you to complete many of the 'subevents' for the proper ending sequence, and gives you considerable freedom as to how you go about doing so. It's nothing like TP or SS with their forced, restrictive no-fun bullshit.
>>739002678Neither the weapon set you're focusing on nor what you've cooked enables you to go anywhere, solve anything, or defeat any enemies you couldn't before.
>>739002913You don't have to 100% it :)
>>739002919more stamina retard
>>739002729You said you wouldn't take it as proof if I posted a version in the language of the conversation we're having, so why would I bother?>>739002753WW, TP, and SS were largely linear. OoT and MM were not.
>>739002753OoT isn't fucking remotely linear.
Botw mogs MM in non-linearity, I don't make the rules.
>>738993430Is it not Skyward Sword?It's like the only mainline game that has no legacy tied to any other released media and the game actually isn't as good compared to other gamesWW spawned like two other sequelsTP had that manga and at least Crossbow Training is in the same worldSS has NOTHING. Even Aonuma said that his goal with BotW was to "Make a better Skyward Sword"Granted, I havent played SS since release. All i remember is a lot of yapping, linear, dumbed down, and handholding. and the artstyle wasnt my cup of tea. Blast me for being a fag but I didnt even finish the game everything just felt so off.At least the other mainlines have redeeming qualities, i cant think of any that SS has that the others dont
>>739003015lmao, sure kid
>>739003015Anything these faggots think could be a choice that isn't makes the game out to be "linear". They want to be able to get the bomb bag and boomerang before they even leave Kokiri forest, because otherwise they're being RAILROADED into the dungeons.
>>739003018I'm not even trying to deny this. Why do you even think this is a point anyone is trying to make?
>>739003028posting smileys is my thing itt :(
>>739003106>get the bomb bag and boomerang before Dodongo's cavernthis would be bad, it would make the game non-linear which we know is bad
>>739003096>trannylatorIn what fucking world does this mean "emulator" and not "translator"? And do you not realize that NSO is all emulators?
>>739003158No, there would still be plenty of elements with order to them, but it would make the child era almost structureless past the tutorial, which we do know is bad, yes.
>>739001520Shalom
>>739003301I'm not going to give you shit until you can at least say "emulator". And even then, probably not. I don't want to give anyone as mentally ill as you a look into my real life.
>>738993430You could never kill Zelda. Its probably top 5 of all time IPs. BOTW and TOTK are good games. People are just wanting a more adult themed / style zelda. I believe we are going to get it finally with Switch 2. Ill be waiting patiently
>>739002412That shitty "redemption line" by ganondorf is the worst Koizumi's writing ever got for the series. Good riddance he got sent to the mario mines
>>739003070>i cant think of any that SS has that the others dontYou do have a point, but SS does actually have unusually well implemented item mechanics, though it's one of the most rightly underhyped games in the series and barely anyone ever gave a shit about it. It basically lacks an actual fanbse who champion it or give a significant crap about it.
>>739003158Boomerang before Dodongo's would be more than fair game and I genuinely hope that the remake lets you do that. That's the one part of the child segment that's excessively linear.
>another free advertising thread courtesy of retard doomkeks keeping the game imagine in front page for hours
>>739003556The boomerang literally only clears obstacles in Jabu Jabu's belly, no? I don't know what getting it first would enable, if anything.
>>738993430This feels like a TOTKschizo thread, what was his name, eric or something?
>>739003314>structure is cinematic linear slopI see
>>739003632All I can think of is the utility of killing flying enemies without needing ammo and getting a few otherwise out of reach skultula tokens without needing to remember they are.
>>739003703You mean that guy who calls everyone who disagrees with him Eric and spams about everyone being "raped"? Yeah, he's here.
>>739003556EXACTLY, and it's the very thing these movie game faggots can't wrap their heads around.
>>739003732>every choice I think I "could" make but actually can't is LINEAR CINEMATIC SLOPKill yourself.
>>739003805Getting a goron bracelet to throw a bomb over the rail in front of Dodongo's cavern complete with a panning camera adds a whole lot to the game. PSYCHE. you get a bomb bag inside the dungeon.
>>739003747Is there a dungeon with enough flying enemies in it that your ammo would become a real concern in normal gameplay? Kinda seems like you'd have to be able to leave Kokiri Forest before doing the Deku Tree for this to have a serious impact on how you play.
>>739003441No. It's genuinely interesting to see a genocidal fucker like Ganondorf try to make himself look good. Koizumi understood how to actually develop shit and the loss of his influence doomed the series to relative inferiority that cannot recapture the same magic.
>>739003158Did you even play OOT? it was always slightly non-linear. You can do the either of the latter child dungeons in either order. Once you have the bow you can then get through something like 3 other dungeons.
>>739003896It would ruin the game, you need to get boomerang after three dungeons god damn it.
>>739003070>Even Aonuma said that his goal with BotW was to "Make a better Skyward Sword"That's its legacy. It's the game where they realized they needed to go back to the drawing board (even if BotW was a bit of an overcorrection imo).
>>739003909>slightly non linear>you see, if you get the bow in the forest temple and then leave, you can totally do water temple>but then you have to go finish it and do fire temple right afterI see
What's with the temu version of the erictranny poster? Where's the original
>>739003892>Getting a goron bracelet to throw a bomb over the rail in front of Dodongo's cavern complete with a panning camera adds a whole lot to the game... yes? Getting a new item to clear a type of obstacle you couldn't before to access a dungeon that contains yet another item that further addresses the same type of obstacle is some pretty good Zelda. Direct evolution of what items like the candle were.
>>739004005>go back to the drawing board>open air Zelda has been confirmed to stayinterdasting
>>738994279I will now play your game.
>>739003632>no?No. It enables you to collect a ton of stuff that would otherwise be inaccessible at that point, like skulltulas and heart pieces, and this would actually be enough to access the the blue flame and other expensive items, which allows you to actually break rocks without using bombs. The game is full of weird, open ended alternate shit like this.
>>739003951What the fuck are you talking about? I'm trying to actually evaluate how the boomerang is used to judge what it would do for your game if you got it early. It doesn't have to be the last item of the child era because it "just does".
>>739004048dumb item>you can't pick up grass without this toggle>YOU JUST CANT OKAYthe camera pan adds a lot of rizz to the sceneYeah goron bracelet is such a cool item, that's why it's practically invalid within the dungeon you open. Lock and key design sucks very understandably so. YES
>>738993823>calls other people zoomers>despite having the most zoomer take imaginableEveryone fucking loved WW twenty years ago. Let me guess: Twilight Princess is your favorite and you have this haircut.
Defending breath of the wild I can at least understand, the game is sorely lacking in traditional dungeons but the mechanics are at least fun and engaging. There’s nothing to defend in TOTK, it’s absolutely terrible, it’s the laziest product Nintendo has put out since amiibo festival and the dumbass building mechanic destroys all the mechanics Botw established. Like, why bother taming a horse when I can just make a hoverboard that’s faster than any horse? Why increase stamina when I can make a flying machine that takes me higher than I could ever climb? It’s just flat out of fucking bad and it’s only just now a lot of Zelda fans are starting to realize this.
>>739003896Ammo is almost never a concern so I'm more thinking of the nicety of it. I think you can even get an upgrade for the seed pouch before even going to the 2nd dungeon.>>739004006yes?It's been a few years but I remember going through the game seeing how much you can do without specific items and it still remains quite open.
>>739004156>you can blow open rocks with bottle fire>it's so open ended and cool, bros
>>738993430BotW was fun, I enjoyed it.TotK was just the same game a second time with worse shit in it. Huge disappointment.
>>739004161it just does, faggot.
>>739004170Everyone hated Wind Waker, god damn you're young. Fuck you, cubekiddie.
>>739004283Do you think this is how people who actually enjoy ocarina of time feel? Or do you know you're purely shitposting and feel compelled to keep going anyway?
>>739004357You must not have read this thread very well. The game needs to remain perfect the way it is, faggot.
>>739004170Why do you think Twilight Princess exists in the first place?
>>739004353People didn’t like the art style because they thought they wanted a gritty realistic Zelda, then we got it and it’s the most 7/10 game ever made. People still talk about how well the visual in windwaker hold up, no one says the same thing about TP.
>>739004413Ocarina of Time can be better than BOTW and more akin to what the franchise wanted to be without being anywhere close to perfect.
>>739004006Fire Tempe doesn't even need the bow at all.>>739003909Ironically doing child dungeons "out of order" is the ONLY time you need to exit a dungeon you could have completed with an item in order to technically complete another first. This never needs to happen in the adult section.
>>739004453Kill yourself loser, I'm not your bogeyman. ToTK is shit, couldn't even commit to being a real BotW sequel.
>>739004707Why are you giving him (You)s, he accuses everyone of samefagging in every fucking thread that’s even mildly critical of anything Nintendo related.
>>739003441>redemption lineWut
>>739001921the reason is Medli is cute
>>739004213>>it's so open ended and cool, brosYes, unironically. Why are you acting all sarcastic about that? It takes a ton of thought to craft progression where there are all these layered dependencies for all these things, and having a heap of alternate, optional means of doing them makes the game more interesting to explore and experiment with. It's a lot more creative than either fully linear or fully open structures.
>>739003904Wind Waker’s theme of making peace with the past to pave way for a brighter future is pretty good. It’s ironic since Aonuma didn’t heed this message and tried to chase Ocarina of Time for a decade before giving up completely.
>>739004842The design never looked right to me, I don’t know why they didn’t just give her a beak instead of having a half beak and a human mouth, it looks strange.
>>739004460>they thought they wantedlook out, thought police
>>739005010Ironically, Wind Waker was the start of Aonuma chasing Ocarina of Time. It's just that his first strategy to do so was to say >this is the official continuation to OoT and all the characters say OoT should be put to rest>you should follow WW instead if you were attached to OoT
>>739004467A first person dungeon crawler inside a microprocessor could be cool, yeah.
>>739005290No, they THOUGHT they wanted it because the tech demo showed off more realistic graphics, then people got the gritty Zelda and it was incredibly mid. Why do you think skyward sword and botw went back to the cartoonish look?
>>739004868>IT'S SO DEEP BROS>they gave the blue fire the same effect as bombs because it was the easiest way to code it
>>739005412THOUGHT POLICE, LOOK OUT
>>739005438Bombs don't break red crystals so what you're claiming is obviously bullshit.
>>739005486What is it about these threads that just attracts the stupidest people on the board? We used to be able to have conversations here without retards coming in and shitting the place up.
>>739005556It's not, blue fire is programmed as a higher damage bomb. And lava is coded as spikes, which is why red tunic reduces damage of spikes.
>>739005591You thought retards shit up the place, but you need a high iq to appreciate the wisdom.
>>738993430All series are dead. They're making games for 67 IQ Somalians now instead of real gamers.
>>739005591Zelda went mainstream
>>739005591Nintendo's marketing strategy for the most recent era of Zelda is shitting on every previous era of Zelda and accusing them of having held the franchise back. What you're seeing is the audience such a strategy actually markets your game to.
>>739005603>And lava is coded as spikes, which is why red tunic reduces damage of spikes.It's actually not, we have the source code showing that it isn't and that lava and spikes are distinct surface properties that the Goron Tunic just happens to block damage from.
>>738993430it totally killed it and nintendo will never make another zelda game, and you're totally not a butthurt third worldie angry at the switch 2's pricing.
>>739005591Because it seems like there's someone sat around hoping to snipe people without actually being able to discuss anything.Multiple posts previously trying and failing to make a point about linearity keeps getting things wrong about the games.It feels like pic related sat is around but keeps getting basic things wrong about the games whenever he chimes in and just becomes an annoyance. They don't understand a discussion means you can talk about what a game does well and poorly without needing to "win" any argument or silence the other person.It just seems socially inept.
>>739003441You got filtered and fell for it.Ocarina of Time literally tells you what he would do if he conquered Hyrule and you still fell for his "muh wind" bullshit
>>738993823>>738994115I just replayed Wind Waker on GCN and I understand why. It's basically it's the first and only time Wind Waker has a puzzle with the boomerang in hitting things in a certain order. So that's why it was more hands-on/obvious with it. All other times is just "target all the things and let go"".Twilight Princess does it more often, which is why it has a button to "lock on" to targets when aiming the boomerang.
>>739006432I figured Twilight Princess had that because it was the foundation of how the boomerang actually targeted shit in the DS toon link games.
>>739005754>just happens to block damage fromlol sure
>>739006432>It's basically it's the first and only time Wind Waker has a puzzlefixed
>>739006620It's coded to defend damage from the two distinct surface types, and you can alter to code to see the exact effect of this, which results in the spikes damaging you without the lava doing so. I know because I've done this.OoT actors can trivially be coded to check if there's a specific type of thing colliding with them and don't even need to rely on the collision types anyway. I know for sure you're wrong. This is a weird as fuck hill for you to try to die on.Here's the blue flame code, for instance.https://github.com/zeldaret/oot/blob/main/src/overlays/actors/ovl_En_Ice_Hono/z_en_ice_hono.chttps://github.com/zeldaret/oot/blob/main/src/overlays/actors/ovl_Bg_Ice_Shelter/z_bg_ice_shelter.c
>>739004446This. You think they do a complete 180 and run back to OoT's formula with Toilet Paper if Wind Wakku didn't get its asshole torn apart by the fans?
>>738993430If someone was completely new to Zelda, I wouldn’t recommend any game made after MM. I didn’t hate WW, but TP and SS were the most underwhelming games ever. I played BotW for about two hours and gave up on it since I didn’t want to waste my time playing a “Zelda” game without dungeons.
>>738993504hi zoom zoom
I love Kass!
The WiiU title could've been TP2.
>>739007852I wonder if you're the reason they removed Kass from TotK. Along with all the femboy Link stuff.Like the wig from Hateno in TotK isn't even horny, it's just "fashion".
>>739007657>“Zelda” game without dungeonsThe beasts are actual dungeons though.
>>739007895Kass wasn't there during the events of the game because he was with me, but if you can't believe that, Kass isn't in the game because his character is intrinsically tied to the champions/Sheikah which was deliberately shafted in ToTK, as well as for the sake of Penn's character.
>>738993504FPBP
>>739004170Only zoomers that had the gc as their first console thinkg shit like wind waker and twilight princess are good. people were calling wind waker celda for being kiddy shit
>>738994279I did not ass
>>739005079it's a beak nose!
>>738993430Yes, and no. The franchise needed a shake up after how abysmally linear SS was, and heading into an open world, non-linear fashion was the best thing they could have done, but it's clear that they had no idea what to do with such a big map and they took the concept of liberty too literal and thus it killed any semblance of identity the series had. No real temples, no unique items to get in dungeons, and no real rewards either for any of the quest seeing as all weapons are destructible. Copy pasted enemies, and brain dead AI because we can't have people struggle too much with the combat.BotW and TotK had the elements to make it one of the best open world adventure games, but after you play the first 2-4 hours you pretty much already experienced what the games have to offer, which is a shame because it has one of the most interactive maps I've ever seen in recent games and it's clear they wanted the map to feel alive. But worst of all, it sparked a whole wave of degenerate BBC/NTRfags
When are they going to go back to just making direct sequels to OOT again like MM and WW and TP. I really only like the OOT sequels. I dont like SS or BOTW or TOTK.
>>739008493Zoras wearing that much is odd and birds have feathers to stay warm. They should have made both characters only wear the red tabard.
>>739008787>Zoras wearing that muchZoras are dead, and Laruto is just the ghost of a Sage, which is why she's wearing that.Medli also turns her arms into feather wings when she needs to fly
when adventuring. Tulin sleeps in my tent ;)
>next game is probably OoT remake>hot on the heels of a Starfox 64 remake>and such hit sandbox titles as Pokopia and Tomodachi Life >and such digital babysitters as DK Bananza and Yoshiwhat the fuck are we doing here man. where are the real GAMES for this thing. like the ones that have real rulesets and goals that are satisfying to achieve? I don't care about sandbox shit and all it took was me hearing the Bananza OST with those cringe-inducing vocals to know I SHAN'T be playing that. you telling me all there is to appeal to someone who plays games at my age are the literal same games from my childhood? this thing's library sucks ass, announce an actually new Zelda game already.
>>739009329>where are the real GAMESlike what, what is for you a real game, give examples
>>738993504fpbp
>>739009419something that isn't a sandbox chore list simulator or made for actual toddlers
>>739009473like what? the OoT Remake? Metroid? Mario Party?
>>739009542>Metroidthis game should have been the answer if they didn't royally fuck it up
>>739009419The next mainline Zelda game. Not a remake.
Why Zelda has so many cute princesses?>Princess Zelda>Princess Hilda>Princess Midna>Princess Ruto>Princess Deku>Princess Styla>Princess MiphaAll of them cute!
they should unironically make one together with fromsoft
>>738993430>He's hallucinating again.
>>739001357Than why isn't botw or totk fun? Mindless activities and puzzles isn't fun.
TP is the last good Zelda because Miyamoto and the old guard tard wrangled fraudunuma and the rest of the devs. Miyamoto stopped caring after TP and that's when everything went to shit.
>>739010239The first Zelda is the last good Zelda because I hate niggers
>>739009329Everyone knows Jewtendo peaked with the N64, so they will keep remaking those games forever.
>>739011313>>739010016>>739010239Nice samefagging and page 10 bumping, Eric.
>>739010239 Basically. Aonuma already checked out but Miyamoto knew everyone wanted a serious Zelda so made them sit through making it. Fujibayashi was a detriment to the series
>>738993430it plays like a ubislop gamepretty gross
>>739001520this game brought the tranny homos in
>>739011739>>739011675>>739011668Nice samefagging, totally not obvious.
>>739003441It was not Koizumi's intention that Hackabayashi and Hacknuma would completely overturn the lore he established in LTTP with the Demise garbage in SS
>skyward sword sold 4 million copies but didnt " kill the zelda franchise" >meanwhilte BOTW sold 35 millions and TOTK sold 22 million and somehow " killed the zelda franchise" despite even rumors of a new zelda game and evene a remake causing everyone to go crazy
>>738993430It was BotW/thread
>>739011805>>739011893Nobody is falling for your snoytranny cope, Eric.
>>739011893see>>739011823and stop being a dumbass
>>738993430Retards like OP who are perpetually mind broken by this game are really sad.That being said, TOTK is explicitly worse than BOTW.
>>739012092it is and it is not if BOTW had never come out TOTK would have been 100 times more funbut since the vast majority of TOTK gives the " haven't i played this before" feeling it makes it a lot less fun than it should have been
>>739011823and it killed the Zelda franchise, replacing it with the BOTW franchise
>>739012260>>739012218Eric, you got raped and lost.
>>739012260there have been 2 games with that format and they have already said they are unlikely to do another
>>739012260Nothing shows a tourist like this opinion. Every fucking game does something to "reinvent" the series and if you actually believe what you wrote then you haven't been paying attention.>Zelda 2 adds side on, not all games have 2d platforming>LttP adds a 2nd world, not all games have a 2nd world>OoT adds 3D, not all games after are 3D>MM adds a day limit, not all games have the loop focus>WW sailing, not all games have sailing>4 swords adds multiplayer, not all games have multiplayerGames pick and choose what to add instead of letting the previous define must-have featuresThe latest ones may add the sandbox world or going straight to the final boss but thats already been broken with Echoes of Wisdom and will change again with the next game.
>>739012218That has nothing to do with why TOTK is worse. I’ve gone back and replayed BOTW and it was still fun.TOTK is worse because like 90% of complaints about BOTW were about inventory management and Nintendo decided to respond by making inventory management 10x more fucking annoying.Or the fact that I have to pause every single time I want to shoot a fire/ice/bomb arrow.Or maybe the fact I just find no joy in Gary’s mod style building shit. It’s boring and gets between me and the things I like about Zelda.
>>739012758>Every fucking game does something to "reinvent" the seriesAnd BOTW killed that, because after BOTW there hasn't been any new 3D Zelda game that reinvents shit>Echoes2D Zelda game, different genre
>>739012930>>739012825Nobody is falling for your snoytranny lies, Eric. Prove you have played those games, by posting a Pic of your physical games.
>>738993430
>>739012930>after BOTW there hasn't been any new 3D Zelda game that reinvents shitThey did though. It just wasn’t fun. See >>739012825If you were correct I probably would’ve liked TOTK more than I did.
>>739012930>trying to claim a game titled "THE LEGEND OF ZELDA" isn't a Zelda game.
>>739013052See >>739012971
>>739013237That too.
>>739011491>attributing anyone who dares to criticize a corporation whose boots you lick to some singular boogeyman that you're convinced is borderline stalking you over liking Nintendo games Schizophrenic and cult-like behavior
>>739008138>celdanow that's a blast from the past
>>739013895>>739013351Everybody knows it's you, Eric.
>>739014004Your family is worried about you. Get some help for their sake.
>>739014004eric for the love of god thousands of new games come out every year find something else to play already
>>739012295if i don't see ya next time, congrats on 300 posts
>>739014161>>739014098>>739014125Least obvious Eric samefagging.
>>739009473>something that isn't a sandbox chore list simulatorgross
>>739012260then the franchise needed "killing" then, all things considered. that linear slop you're nostalgic for is a thing of the past thankfully.
>>739012218Totk is a better game, be disappointed, you're a faggot. I hope the next game is an iteration of Totk just to watch you melt like a little bitch.
>>739012995If only they knew how bad things really are.
>>739014402You lost and got raped.
>>739014538thats the tragic part it is objectively a better game but half its content was in the game that came before it so it wears on you before you reach the end
>>739015352>it is objectively a better gamestopped reading there, sign it, no notes
>>738993504Based
