>tfw nepobaby game needs tax payer moneyKek
>>738994395>CHADrat_NationBased
>>738994395tax goycattle is enslaved why waste your money?
>>738994395>nepobaby gameshe owns a publishing company that has published many games, like outer wilds. She probably doesnt even know this game exists.And you guys are contradicting yourselves. You suggest she has infinite money so its obvious that journos must be paid off. So why do they need 90k$ which is a chump change?
>>738994604Because it's her right as being one of the chosen people to get her money.
>>738994395Shameful as it may be, if you make games catered to maximizing profits and be actually successful, they'd just be FotM mtx rogue-lite extraction slop or literally CoD. A little government cheese to break that isn't necessary a bad thing.
>>738994604Big billionaire publisher titles masquerading as indie and leeching government money is the elephant in the room that needs to be addressed sooner or later.Actual indies need that money.
>>738994657Hm, I wonder how the taxpayers feel about how their cheese is being used.
>>738994395>AustraliaAngo countries are clearly the world's villains
>>738994730Do you understand the difference between a publisher and a gaming studio? Publishers are never "indies". Publisher is a publisher you moron.
>>738994735Who gives a shit what they think? Tax payers are literally cattle and if they manage to do something good, even if it inconveniences some faggot boomer with another 1% tax on their worthless vice, it is worth it. Retards like you don't even seem to understand that taxation is merely an inflation & behavior control mechanism anyway in the day and age of magic money tree (MMT)
>>738994816a game backed by a gorillionaire publisher is not indie.
>>738994881Then basically no game is indie. Moronic statement.
>>738994657>they'd just be FotM mtx rogue-lite extraction slop or literally CoD.oh you mean actual games
>>73899439590k is fucking nothing, and it's normal for devs to get grants from governments.Why do people care about this so much?
>>738994912>Then basically no game is indie. thats wrong. you just ate up corpo skinwalker marketing.
>>738994816>>738994912NTA but a true indie game would mean its been independently published too. It's a shame the actual meaning of "indie" has been so watered-down.
>>738995019Ok kiddo. When you're a literal who without powerful people or pure lucksmaxxing, you'll have to grovel to a publisher eventually. Exact same shit with books too. I don't know why you morons are so fucking clueless.
>>738995106didnt ask for your diarrhea. its not indie.
>>738995136>I-it's only indie if you're a nepobaby loser who can fall back on getting money from daddy if no one buys your shit game! that's basically what you're saying.
your passion project indie title.
>>738994395>shity pirat_nation twitter screenshot threadfuck off and die. this is just an ad. you just steal content from here to post on x and then post your x shit here. buy a fucking ad.
>>738994395Its really common for "art" projects to get grands for making a product from the government.Everything about this discussion is making gamers look more retarded every day
>>738995106>you'll have to grovel to a publisherNo?You just need a distributor (or distribution platform), you can still release and dtstritube an independent game without receiving any funding from a publisher.
I'm not going to look at Mixtape, but did it have an Acknowledgement of Country at the start or in the credits? Or recognise elders past present, and emerging? Or pay tribute to the Kumanjayi Little Baby?Because if they didn't, and they took money from the Australian tax payer, then those fucking Nazi, One Nation voting, won't spare two dollars for the bus, cunts who don't use the proper Indigenous football team names during the Indigenous Round should have all the reviews set straight to zero.Always Has Been, Always Will Be™.
>>738994604The wealthy offload a lot of their expenses onto hapless taxpayers. Just look at the situation with beaner migrants, the aristocrat imports the beaner and then pays whatever bare minimum amount, while the taxpayer has to fund the unlimited gibs that the spic gets. But it all works that way, that’s the economy for ya.
>>738995179didnt read
>>738995186meds
>>738995215Ok and how are you going to pay rent? How you gonna pay salaries for your studio? Are you capable of actually farming out work to contractors when necessary? You sound like a delusional retard.
>farming out work to contractors>indielmao
>>738994395Just die already.
>>738995273I wouldn't develop such an expensive project that requires that sort of scale to begin with. If I were to make an independent game, it would be me and a few buddies working on it as a passion project out of our own pockets.
>>738995207Why should shitty "art" games that make no money receive taxpayer funding?
>>738995291>p-please buy my totally original schmups, sokoban, metroidvania "totally indie" slopdelusional.
>>738995273actual indies manage to release their games just fine.
>>738995272fuck off. half of the twitter screenshot posts on the boards i read just happen to be pirat_nation
>>738995273you are describing AAA corporate work flows.the high guard tried to pull this trick, talking about being indie while having teams of indians churning shit out and being backed by tencent.
>>738995247>pajeet shill picture>cowdata.org sourcelmao you can't make this shit up
>>738995362and?
>>738995327Because they use projects like these to launder money
>>738995207>Rich kids who have never been employed get $$$ from the state to make shitty shitAs an actual art professor, you have no idea how hopelessly bad it is.
>>738995032>its been independently published tooNo it doesnt mean that, it means that that they are rich or have rich investors (like Sandfall) , or the game was made by 1-3 people.
>>738994395Hollow Knight, BG3, and E33 get the same grant money. You've been playing industry plants for years.
I'm so amused by the amount of ass pain generated by this game. There are no controversies, nobody in the dev team made leftie remarks, the game itself apparently even has a hetero love story, what the fuck is going on? Moviegames and narrative adventures existed since dawn of times.
>>738995415For sure some tech companies are doing this with poos but nationwide the beaner example is far more common.
>>738995327To allow for creative projects to be made. Whether or not you think it is good or creative is irrelevant, governments do this for everything, be it for public art pieces, concerts, stage plays, and whatever fuck else.It's pretty inoffensive, and small piece of their budgets, and in good scenario it allows artists to develop their skills and brings more eyes to the country in form of soft power.
>>738994395Isn't that literally how games are funded? Even big AAA publishers take grants and loans, tax breaks, local governments creative funds etc. to build their budgets.
>>738995516Probably because you are retarded and people do not act like your chud bogeyman you made up.
>>738995491indie games also can't be on steam (a billion dollar company)you have to buy indie games on their own website
>>738995530dude stop ruining the vibes of my fake outrage thread
>>738995556uh oh babby got demolished and is now spouting nonsense
>>738994395you just know the jeet behind that account is spamming these threads. kek
>>738995516Grifters always need to create a controversy even if it doesnt exist, that's the only thing that justifies their existence. They have no job if they cant grift and shit out slop videos and posts.
>>738994395They all look white in that pic. I thought that what's matter
>>738995591I'm starting to realize that was the purpose of this thread.
>>738995594how is it indie if it's being distributed by one of the largest companies in gaming?
>>738995649>starting
>>738995657diaper full!
>>738994604The 90k has been used to pay the journous. Daddy paid the licenses.
>>738995657>>738995556Read >>738995215Indie means "no external funding" (i.e. no publisher, no investors)
>>738995750ah yes, leftists, known critics of mixtape lmao
>>738995657Unless your game gains insane traction, Valve does no promotion for games on Steam aside from automated algorithmic stuff. Selling games on Steam is like selling them on DLsite, or having table at convention.
>>738995797>doesn't deny being a pedo
>>738995828dont have to.
>>738995626confirmed european.
>>738995813>>738995730being gifted a platform with discovery from millions of users is external fundingdo you have any idea how costly it would be to set up one of your ownyou guys are so fucking disingenious
>738995890weak bait
>>738995890talk about disingenuous.
>>738994604>She
>>738995415>>cowdata.org sourceForeigner doesn't realize there's a huge swath of the USA that's obsessed with cows in their own way.
>Tryhard indie Sundance film gets a bunch of investor money from state governments (mainly Georgia) to shoot locally>Critical success but commercial failure>Who gives a shit>Tryhard indie game gets a bunch of investor money for developing in Australia>Critical success but commercial failure>THIS IS LITERALLY WHITE REPLACEMENT THE WEST HAS FALLENAnd now the game's getting 10x more coverage than it would have otherwise, because you knuckle-dragging morons have completely abandoned any sense of critical thinking to dogshit clickbait streamers.
>>738995890Are you pretending not to understand things, making discourse impossible?
Its funny because this is seriously some of the most evil and rich backing a company can have.Sixth richest man on earth. Absolute evil jew funding slavery, surveillance and wars.And that gets laundered into being "indie" through bought journos.
>>738995926to be fair, it's probably fake outrage specifically for the purpose you stated./v/ is full of cattle though.
>>738995926movies are gay I dont know what your point isalso the game is shitting and flopping hard.none of these reveals are helping them.
>>738994395The pushback against this game is what's manufactured. The game is just millennial nostalgia core that grifters decided was the target of the day, and you're all falling for the outrage cycle like usual. Utterly predictable and so very cringe.
>>738995183Not even grand theft auto games get that shit.
>>738994604>she owns a publishing company that has published many games, like outer wildsSo that's why that game gets shilled so hard on here. Seagrams money.
>>738996029yeah man its the outrage thats manufactured, and not literally everything else about the "game".
>>738995183Ok, I'm vaguely impressed, even GTA has trouble with only being able to get 10 year licenses.
>>738996090What is so bad about it anyway?
>>738995750Adult diapers exist. You are projecting.
>>738994395Wait wtf... doesnt every aussie funded game need to have an acknowledgement of country
>>738995980>Absolute evil jew funding slavery, surveillance and wars.Give examples, please. I know his family is one of the new American part-owners of Tik-tok so surveillance is kinda covered, but war? They don't own defense contractors. Slavery? Where?
>>738996139on paper not all that much. its a shitty lame movie non-game trying to appeal to genx/millenial nostalgia.what people see an issue with is that this game appeared out of nowhere, got 10/10 scores across the board, expensive merch boxes sent to all journos and youtubers and is being advertised as this indie title when its evidently not.people have a problem with the fake and gay push of it.if everybody was just slightly more honest about what it actually was the backlash wouldnt have been this severe.generally people are sick of corpos trying to indie-wash their expensive multi million dollar productions.
>>738994395>Australia funds yet another DEIslop title
>>738994395Wait, this game takes place in Australia? I thought it took place in the PNW for some reason.
>>738994395this entire game is just AI ragebaiting
>>738996236he's one of the biggest donors to the IDF. friends with netanyahu.he has bought a hawaiian island with people on it controlling infrastructure and all jobs on it.
>>738995516>Gets 10/10 everywhere while actual games get 7/10>Has tongue kissing but is lgtbqq so good but beautiful women?? Ewwww>No gameplay, just a movie, you can't loseKill yourself troon
>>738995926When the shitty movie happens, nobody cares because it's rightfully buried under better things.When the shitty game happens, the west coast game "journalists" will continuously circlejerk about it ad infinitum for the whole year until the Sony-funded TGA event happens. Then they memoryhole the game's existence until it's convenient for them to bring it up in a future article.
>>738994395Why is it always Australia?
>>738996758Why cant you tolerate the idea that some people make games for an audience that youre not part of? Its a niche genre for a niche audience, where's the problem? Where is the seethe from?>actual gamesgive me a break, you wouldnt blink at a slop hentai visual novel being called a game
>>738996341It is a lot like Gone Home's initial response, but we are speedrunning straight to the derailing hatred of a group, without the need of plants.
>>738994395Gamergate warned us about this
>>738995516I love when people are either genuinely too stupid to understand a phenomenon like this, or when they pretend to be this stupid just so they can put up their le epic clueless dadgamer arguments. Makes me kek every time
>>738994395bro you need taxpayer moneyget your beak wet nigga
>>738996905hentai visual novels genuinely have more gameplay.
>>738996797>will continuously circlejerkNo the people continuously circlejerking are the grifters and culture war idiots who got nothing else going on. Its the ragebaiters and the ragebaited (you). The "journalists" have already moved on and are writing articles about other games, while you seethe and talk about them. Youre the one who keeps Mixtape relevant, but that's by design. Its by design of grifters for whom its endless content.
>>738995242Based Heya Hoya
>WHY DO YOU CARE THAT A VIDEO GAME ISNT MADE FOR YOUI don't, I care that gaming "journalists" and their goycattle followers wants me to believe this is somehow a perfect game, when it arguably has no elements in it that makes it a game, since it plays itself. But knowing how much it makes them seethe and cry when people don't buy into their astroturfed garbage is enough of a payoff at the end of the day.
>Falling for outrage marketingA new sucker is born every second
>>738997057the "journalists" are still defending it right now.
>>738997147yeah truly high iq people never point out the rot and just let it fester.
>>738996747>he's one of the biggest donors to the IDF. friends with netanyahu.Not the same thing as funding wars. Trump funds those wars.>he has bought a hawaiian island with people on it controlling infrastructure and all jobs on it.That doesn't sound like the same thing as slavery, but I've never heard of it before so I couldn't say. Gotta link? Name of island? Something I could research?
>>738997147if no one bought it how did it work? as of right now the game has more reviews than players on steam
It has 5k reviews on steam. Safe to say this game has already made its money back if that many people have actually taken time to review it.
>>738997218funding the IDF, the army that is starting shit all around them right now is directly funding wars.and you can just google ellison hawaii island.
>10/10 game from multiple outlets >has no gameplayhuh?
>>738997253lol
>>738997152They are making articles because people like you will click on them and seethe about it. Its your fault
>>738997253Unfortunately all those copies handed out for their astroturf campaign won't get them any additional revenue, but it was a valiant attempt
>>738997337>its not happening>actually it is and its your fault
>>738994395the eternal aussie at it again
>>738997279Israel by my count is currently involved in 4 wars, and only started 1 of them.For an American equivalent, rich people funding the USO during wartime is not the same as funding the war.
>>738997378Its not happening in the way you describe or for the reasons you claim.
>>738997284Even after 10 years of hating journalists since the Gone Home incident, /v/ has basically achieved nothing in terms of changing gaming journalism for the betterI wonder why?
>>738997429kys
>>738997495considering no one trusts games journalism anymore so what else are we supposed to do?
>>738997495they are evil and will never change their ways.did a lot to harm their influence and income though.random basement tards like pirat gaming get way more exposure and reach than IGN and friends now.
>zoomers whining and worshiping sandniggers in a threadIf you thought millennial writing was bad then i don't think you're ready for what they will unleash upon us. This is video game discussion now. It's always off topic but it's protected off topic.
>>738997495>>738997605>its bad because they arent grifting and catering to me like my jeet brother pirat nation!
https://www.metacritic.com/game/mixtape/critic-reviews/?platform=playstation-5I think people are overthinking this. It's not some conspiracy about paid reviews or jews or whatever. It's literally a game that plays itself. We've known for years game reviewers hate playing games, of course they're going to give a movie game a good score.
>>738997681-he is european-game journoloids are grifters by definition
>>738997495Because we don't have the means to open our own gaming review site.A few people did, though. NicheGamer and GamesNosh are still around and reviewing.
>>738997689bro>>738995183not even grand theft auto has such licenses
>>738997708If they were grifting theyd just tell you what you want to hear. You'd be able to vote for rating you want to see on the game and the review would be tailored to your preferred rating, this is what you actually want.
>>738997719nichegamer is legit great.
>>738994730>People only care when its vidya doing itKinda sad.
>>738997495>changing "gaming journalists" can actually happen>while their entire lifeblood is saying "gibs me dat $$$ and you get gud review"The only way to "change" any of these cesspools is to hit them where it hurts: their wallet. But seeing as most of their sheckles come from being bought and NOT from pageviews nor ads, it doesn't matter if no one reads their articles. They get paid to simply exist and regurgitate whatever theyre told to.
>>738995471Can you drop more info on this bro, I'm genuinely curious about the absolute state of things.
>>738997495>Review games for a living>Buying every single new game that comes out is prohibitively expensive for a job that barely makes any money>Game companies offer to send you review copies for free>Review their games positively and you get more free games and thus more revenue>Review their games negatively and they stop sending review copiesWoaw I wonder why game reviewing is so inaccurate!!!!
these fuckheads didn't even make 1 because that would imply they need to be in 2.so you get a game instead.
>>738996905>Stop eating shit, it's unhealthy!!!>Just let me eat shit, why cant you tolerate the idea that some people make food for an audience that you're not part of? Its a niche meal for a niche audience, where's the problem? Where is the seethe from? Let me eat shit!
>>738994395It seems that, in order to accrue more government funding, journalists and developers and publishers have a vested interest in making sure games like "Mixtape" flourish, because they'd rather get money from Big Government than you, the filthy goy consumer.
>>738997879Ditto, I do photography as a sideline and I'd love to get paid to make art that interests me instead of shooting products or events.
>>738994604Shalom.
>>738998113based noticer
>>738997768retarded
all the seethe about pirat makes sense when you realize that its all subhuman journalgroids being asshurt that he steals their exposure.
>>738997821well you could try to diminish their reach to such a degree that the industry sees no value in paying them anymore.I bet they are already losing a lot of money on pumping cash into kotaku. that shits dead.
>>738994912Indie game means that theoretically anyone with spare time could make the game. No actual indie could get perpetual music licenses for massive pop hits.
>>738997993corporate in the form of perpetual epic exclusivity or government welfare through these kinds of grants or saudis/chinks buying you up for soft power are the ultimate goal for them.at that point you can produce whatever garbage you want with no capitalistic pressure demanding you make something actual humans want to buy.
>>738998372corporate welfare*
>>738994657I can tell you're a mobilegamer/nongamer because:1) You don't understand what PC gaming genres are and2) You think CoD clones are viable ventureGacha/mobile games both have a lower barrier of entry AND are many, MANY times more profitable than PC/console gaming combined. If they actually wanted to make money they'd tap into your market. Btw 4chan has a board for mobile games, stop being a poser and stay there.
Mixtape sucks. But that's not an excuse to make a fucking twitter thread.
I really hope Geoff nominates this for GOTY, only then will we see true performative chud seethe, punching the air, fighting ghost, it will be hilarious. Nothing will happen and the cycle will repeat.
>>738994604Shill
>>738995273>farming out work to contractorsAutomatically not an indie.
>>738998542I really do hope that Geoff tanks the reputation of his lame marketing event further.High Guard was not enough.
>>738995750>leftist discourse = germ theory denial, globe earth denial, moon landing denial and conspiracy theories It's amazing how much backpedaling the right does.
>>738998368Do you have any actual numbers or are you just talking out of your ass? I have literally never heard a single one of the songs in this game, the band are popular sure, but it probably didn't cost even half as much as people may think it did
>>738995516Peter Thiel and Epstein were the ones who came up with that type of culture wars. You are seeing a return to normal after a decade of astroturfing.
>>738997240>player count matters for short single player experiences with no replay valueFound the seamonkey
>>738994395It does not need it. What you don't seem to understand is that nepobabies are generally well connected. It just is what naturally happens in business. Favors are exchanged. And if anyone knows how to take advantage of government money, its those with connections, because they know who to ask what grants are available, and what kickbacks they can take advantage off. Now the better question OP. Why would they not take literally free money?
>>738998668>? I have literally never heard a single one of the songs in this gameWe should range ban zoomers.
>>738998708>more reviews than products sold>totally normal
>>738998841Where are you finding the "products sold" number?
>>738997495I don't think gaming journalism should even exist. It's not even a real career and it doesn't even belong in this medium. User review systems are perfectly adequate. My view is that it is for the best of everyone that we get rid of this part of the industry. Whether you think the gamergaters were somehow involved in harassment or not is irrelevant because the damage was done with the gamers are dead articles anyway. Ultimately they forced themselves into their own destruction.They weren't even great back in the days of when they communicated with gamers via magazines out of news agents but stooped even lower from those days. Some of those people turned out to be rotten in the end. It's just that word of mouth makes their careers the equivalent to fake diplomas.We never needed G4 or Adam Sessler either. He was always always an unqualified asshole. People are nostalgic over some of the worst people too. I would even say the same about Jeff Gerstmann and all of these apparently well respected vetarans that they're hacks. Because that motherfucker took the side of journalists are better than the peasants during that time. An absolute clown but i knew that too.
>>738995518>Whether or not you think it is good or creative is irrelevantSo taxpayers shouldn't have a say in their money being stolen from them to create art that they don't even like? The fact that these shitty art games make no money is a huge problem, because it means no one wants it.>brings more eyes to the country in form of soft powerNo one is playing this shit, let alone people from other countries. Fuck entitled artists.
>>738996905>Why cant you tolerate the idea that some people make games for an audience that youre not part of?lmao ironic
>>738994395>Be leftist>Hate billionaires>Hate Trump>Hate Elon>Hate Israel>Believe that tax dollars should be used to help the poor, not billionaires>Be forced to shill for a game funded by Larry Ellison the billionaire megadonor to Trump, Elon and Israel, and also funded by tax dollars
>>738994816That's literally what that anon is saying. There are published games pretending they're indie because they're 'small' titles when they're not indie at all. They've got massive publishers behind them or VC funding or other horseshit. This has been an issue for the better part of a decade.
>>738999224If they had any actual morals i'm sure they would be very upset
>>738998736Of course they will abuse anything they can.But uncovering these things raises important questions about transparency.There are actual struggling indies who need such help way more and it would help greatly to raise awareness about misuse of such funds.There generally needs to be more talk about how to ask for such government help. The deck of cards will be stacked against the average guy, but people should still try.You can see them screech when these things are being dragged under sunlight. That alone is enough of a reason to talk about it.
>>738999224>be right wing>be a schizophrenic that makes things up and believes everything he reads on X
>>738999224the actual funniest part is that this game is so lame and gay that even leftoids dont want to defend it anymore, especially with the Ellison connection, but at the same time they absolutely cannot under any circumstance take the side of evil chuddies, so its tearing them apart.
>>738999326Which part is made up?
>>738994395>>738995186How come no one ever posts the image that proves he's indian?
>>738997810Boomers had the opportunity to speak up about this kind of shit when it came to other mediums but they never did. I choose to be a thorn in their side and even if I dont succeed I will at least go down trying.
>>738994395You didn't cry when E33 got the same fundingWhy?
>>738995183>perpetuityThat's a lot o money and or influence, even for secondary music titles.
>>738999492because he isnt indian.
>>738999495This place did call it out though.Just like it called out High Guard for it.E33 turned out to be a game many enjoyed but that doesnt change that the journos lied about it being indie.
>>738999326>left wing>>be a schizophrenic that makes things up and believes everything he reads on notTruth.social.sky
You know a game is indie when it can afford music licence in perpetuity so songs like The Touch.
>>738994395>Why is the Australian government paying an Australian company to make an Australian game and make Australian jobs?Gee I wonder. It must all be some conspiracy and not just a thing that literally every country does.
>>738999309Kinda weird that big publishers see their big slop games flop and people playing more indie games, so they start hi-jacking the whole concept to offer yet more slop "games" like this one. And then some other people pretend that's not an issue. The entire industry so fucked, because it's not about >making the good game for people who play video gamesanymore, but to remove or subvert all other options to funnel people to the slop, when the more likely outcome will be that most people will just fall off gaming entirely (hell, it's already kinda happening).
>>738994986sure bro if its nothing then im looking forward to your small loan of 90k to the trashcan
>>738999309In the music industry there are indie labels and major labels, with the former being way smaller and funding more modest bands, often people who started in their own garages.The irony is that the guy who made Mixtape is signed to a major label, so by music standards he is the opposite of an indie artist.
>>738996905Insanely jewish. Disgusting.
>>738999326Wikipedia mentions how Annapurna went bankrupt and had to rely on her daddy blood money to survive.
>>738994986This. Our governments need to send more of our money to billionaires. 90K is not enough.
>>738996905>Why cant you tolerate the idea that some people make games for an audience that youre not part of?Cool. Make it with your own money then, jew thief.
>>738994730>Actual indies need that money.If they do, they won't be indies anymore, and so on and so on. It's not like you can decide whether the grant money will be granted to you no matter how desperately you need it, why care?
>>738999656>Gee I wonder. It must all be some conspiracy and not just a thing that literally every country does.Normally you just get tax breaks. When the country actually provides funding the idea behind that is whatever you are funding is going to attract tourists.Still, far from the worst "art" Australian tax payers have funded. Worst I ever heard of was the woman who used the money to just buy gold and then throw it all in the trash. Apparently it was a statement about waste or something.
>>738994395>SAAR stop supporting local devs. Please outsource more money to our Indian devs to do the job cheap and sloppily.
>>738999812This guy probably bought off the journos too.
>>738999413The implication that this is a thing that leftists as a whole care about, that anyone cares enough to defend this, and that it isn't a thing that is exclusive to the community of 100 gaming journalists in existence and the 2,000 culture warrior retards on X. There are things to criticize the left for but you retards are always too stupid to find it. You culture war faggots sound like retarded schizophrenics every time.
>>738999495The E33 devs and Kepler made an effort to hide the fact that they were getting money from Epic and NetEase. Even then, everyone complained when the Dorito Pope nominated E33 for indie awards.
>>738999908my favorite is thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tOkb1y7hEs
>>738999916>If the government doesn't give your tax money to billionaires, they will outsource to INDIA! Oh no, imagine how bad that would be.
>>738996905Because for the past 15 years I've been told that the rest of the world can't tolerate games that are supposedly only made for my demographicYou are so retarded it borders on evil, fuck off
>>738999916Cool false dykeotome
>>738999948>and that it isn't a thing that is exclusive to the community of 100 gaming journalists in existence and the 2,000 culture warrior retards on X.That's who I was referring to.So again, which part was made up?
>>738999897that makes no sense whatsoever.
>>738999495everyone who wasn't a shill called it outwhy is spouting lies all you do here?
>>738996905I like music games and I have liked some games made by Annapurna that have actual gameplay. I am the audience.
>>738999916The notion that the Ellison family (net worth >$200B) would be forced to outsource a small gaming project to India if they don't receive money from the government is beyond asinine, to the point of severe mental illness.You are a literal slave.
>>738995183Even games backed by fucking Microsoft like HiFi Rush don't get this and that's a rhythm game where boss fights were designed around specific music tracks.
>>739000202its actually insane how much bullshit is being pushed in these threads.
>>738999495This board was spammed with E33 threads for months and no one cared that they lied about being indie. Double standard.
>>739000057I'm shocked that qanda wound up being cancelled.
>>739000398>no one cared that they lied about being indie.not him but this is a liethis was all anyone talked about when e33 was getting nominated for thegameawards
>>738994604>You suggest she has infinite money so its obvious that journos must be paid off. So why do they need 90k$ which is a chump change?fleecing the taxpayer, sounds like infinite money to me
>>739000398https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/732479508/#732479508all you trannies do is lie.
>>738994395>REEEEE RICH PEOPLE!!!Commie tranny.
>DEI woke slop (sponsored by Blackrock proxies)>FLOPedSeems like their propaganda doesn't really work anymore. Though they still own payment processors.
Where was this energy for E34?
>Trying to divert attention to an actual good game *dreidel noises*
>>739000518Not even gonna bother clicking, cope & seethe
>>739000609https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/732479508/#732479508Stop lying for once in your life, yd.
>bharat_nation
>>738998573So when solo dev who pays someone online to make music for his game, the game is no longer indie?
>>738997218Lana'IIf you get fired from your job you get evicted. C'mon now, why do you deepthroat ellison like this
>>738997218>>he's one of the biggest donors to the IDF. friends with netanyahu.>Not the same thing as funding wars. Trump funds those wars.Yes, it is. Gag on futa cum
why do games get money from the government?I understand movies because tourism and notoriety, but does anyone really care if a game is made in bumfuck misery?
>>738994395spent it all on expensive music licensing apparently.
>>739001861The government just wants hands in every possible propaganda pie, either now or for future use.
>>739001861"Art" that has absolutely no chance in hell of surviving in the commercial world gets government funding supposedly for the greater good. The US hands out something like $2 billion in tax payer money to the "arts" every year.
>>738995183>NOT EVEN GTA WOWis this site all bots?
>>739001861It's just corruption. You will notice a very strange pattern that the average recipient of public funding for art projects happens to be a political activist.Pure coincidence of course.
>>739001861Only certain games.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2094580/We_The_Refugees_Ticket_to_Europe/
>>738994604This post is some insane levels of mental gymnastics.
>>738994604>So why do they need 90k$ which is a chump change?money laundering
>>738994816There needs to be a split in the double meaning of the word "publisher". One is paid by the developer to handle the technical aspects of publishing a game. The other actively invests in games it wishes to publish and earn a profit from.Im sure to can tell which one can still preserve its title of "indie" and which cannot.
>>739001524>work at remote resort>because resort is remote and too far to commute, get free housing there>lose job>lose housingWhy are you acting like it's unique to this one case instead of industry standard?>>739001704How do you futafags find a way to insert your fetish into everything?
>>739001861Because the devs ask for it, maybe? Australia wants to look like a good, viable country to make videogames in. Where were all the temper tantrums when Cult of the Lamb did it?
>>739001861funding arts is good. someone needs to just take control over the reigns again because too much trash is being funded.also many countries want to stimulate a gaming industry.
>>739002313>How do you futafags find a way to insert your fetish into everything?Easily. Like futa cock slides into everything
Only 90,000?? Oh! I forgot this site is populated by the poor and stupid. Silly me
>>739002339>also many countries want to stimulate a gaming industry.Here's an idea- stop stealing from citizens so they have more money to buy video games.
>>739002146It all comes down to who gets to hand out the grants.In my City, it's done by a citizen's commission that explicitly includes non-artists. The problem is, leftists are more likely to be artists, are more likely to know about this, and more likely to push their friends and comrades to apply, in their usual entryism fashion. Meanwhile right-wing people and nonpoliticized centrists rarely ever apply, so it still winds up with lots of the money going to leftist art.
>>739001190Are you asking a friend or doing a whole audition process?
>>739001003See>>738999492
>>738994604>So why do they need 90k$ which is a chump change?Nobody ever said they NEED it. This is like asking why billionaires avoid paying taxes.
>>739002304>One is paid by the developer to handle the technical aspects of publishing a game. The other actively invests in games it wishes to publish and earn a profit from.To pull from the movie world, which all games basically are now, the first is referred to as a distributor and the second is referred to as a producer.
>>739002072>The US hands out something like $2 billion in tax payer money to the "arts" every year.Which makes up .0001% of the federal budget.
>>739002527Looking at people offering to do the work online, listening to their samples, and choosing their favorite that fits their tight budget.
>>739002657So? It's still a lot of money.
>>739002135>least obvious zogbot
>>739002657What's your point? That's it's the mere tip of the iceberg for wastage? Don't think anyone is going to argue against that.
>>739002761Eh. A billion here, a billion there, eventually it does add up to real money.
>>738994395This accusations dont even make sense, how is this game a plant. Please dont say that the daughter of the authoritarian right wing billonaire is the one pushing liberal videogames. Are you guys retarded
>>739002520It's difficult to network as a non-leftist creative because everything is already ideologically captured.Even when it seems like you have a chance to get included in an event they'll ask how many gays and minorities your project has. I still apply, but I only ever make it to smaller, independent events, or foreign stuff organized by Eastern Europeans or South East Asians.
>>738995186If there is an industry plant is tgis fucking faggot, why is the board constantly posting his shit.
>>739002948That's a good point, Ellison isn't George Soros, his politics are completely different other than their shared love of telling other people what to do.
>>739001861They probably have an art fund and people apply to get money from it
>>739002948>Please dont say that the daughter of the authoritarian right wing billonaire is the one pushing liberal videogames.Why is that so unbelievable? Spoiled rich kids love to rebel against their successful parents. Look at that one Elon Musk troon offspring.
>>739002948Are you actually claiming it would be implausible for a rich right winger to fund his deadbeat left wing daughter's life? If left wing women weren't all funded by right wing men they'd all be starving in the streets.
>>739003020What sort of art do you do? I'm a photographer and most of my friends are illustrators, so there usually aren't any other people included in a project aside from possibly models.
>>739002948>right wing billonaireFor a leftist you sure stop believing in class warfare when it's convenient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjwlrvcKcfIEvergreen
>>739002761it's a lot of money for a person, not an entire country
Ah it's Pirat_Nation being a nigger again and pretending to not know Aussie vidya development of any kind gets public funding, what a shockYes, retard, even projects you don't like get funding, that's how public art funding works
>>739003189It's a lot of money that could be spent on something useful.
>>739003229>that's how public art funding worksOh cool, can I unsubscribe? If I like any of them I'll buy them directly.
>>739003131I'm a video game developer.As for people in this context, it can refer to the developers but also the characters in the game.
>>738995186This.This rat has been caught making threads, then harvesting whatever replies might do well enough on xitter so he can make money off them.
>>738999027>So taxpayers shouldn't have a say in their money being stolen from them to create art that they don't even like?You’ve always had a say
>>739003312"Can I choose where my taxes go" would on paper be a good question if it wasn't also directly answered by written law and both local and federal politics
>>739003371>"Can I choose where my taxes go"Yeah.If they go to useless shit nobody wants I don't wanna pay them, lil thief.
>>739003407>if it wasn't also directly answered by written law and both local and federal politicsEpicly un-consent to being governed somewhere that you have a choice in ignoring half a post
>>739003253The US government is already in the thrall of the beaver lobby.https://www.fws.gov/project/beaver-conservation-strategyhttps://www.beaverinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Federal-State-and-Local-Grants-Government-grants.pdfhttps://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/10303/texthttps://awionline.org/content/support-federal-funding-beaver-coexistence
>>738994395>MC is a somewhat cute girl (that's a stretch honestly) inside game set in soulful times of 80-90sbut>devs made it lame and gay with generic lesbian tension between two girls and guy running around them like a cuck >browns everywhere>no one calls anyone a faggot or nigger or any other proper insult for that era>garbage story plot with daughter hating her parents seen for millionth time>retarded fourth wall breaking, no gameplayIt seems like a money laundering scheme of some sort, idk how devs can fail on multiple fronts and go blind on obvious flaws & clichés.
>>739003509>>MC is a somewhat cute girl
>>739000398people (including me) constantly said it was an astroturfed unreal engine asset flip where people suddenly pretended like QTEs were LE EPIC again and that its claims of being indie were laughable.
I wonder what happened to sweet baby inc. Literally baby eating DEI faggotry
>>738995415holy shit you're actually right india rangeban on 4chan when?
>>739003575Did what any competent company would do and shut the fuck up after being put in a spotlight by caterpillar eyebrowed culture-warriors. Culture-warriors lost interest and they're still doing what they did before. It's all TORtanic doom-begging at the end of the day.
>>738995183So what message for the goyim is this trying to deliver, to be so important?
>>739003335I don't know of any art grants here that were given out to video games.I do know that some gaming related non-profits got discretionary grants from city councilmen or the speaker, but that's a different pot of money entirely, and isn't awarded by judges or artistic merit.
>>738994395>Government supporting the artsThis is a good thing, you're just too impotent to see.
>>738995247>while the taxpayer has to fund the unlimited gibs that the spic gets.This is FOX News level concern trolling about welfare-queens. How do you get public gibs without a social security number, anon-doko?
Why is it so hard for certain people to write a decent story?Sure, not every story will resonate with every audience but it can't be that hard. Also for fuck's sake, stop writing about yourself.>inb4 but that's the thing I know bestIt's just boring and self absorbed.
>>739003575They are still operating, them and a bunch of other consulting companies that do the exact same thing.>>739003660Yeah, nobody cared the other day when Anita Sarkeesian popped up in the Slay the Spire 2 credits.People have totally forgotten about this.
>>739002948>Please dont say that the daughter of the authoritarian right wing billonaire is the one pushing liberal videogames.how is that in any way unbelievable
>>739003768Caterpillar eyebrowed culture-warriors pretending Anita Sarkeesian is relevant is a thing that happened recently, yes.
>>739003710It all boils down to unelected officials making choices without democratic input in the end.That's why it's called the iron rule of oligarchy.
>>739003229useless post
>>739003692nothing really.seems to be just all around masturbatory. everything about it is shallow and fake.
>>739003809>It's not happening>Ok, it's happening but it's not a big dealYou are here>It's happening and it's actually a good thing>In fact, thing has always been happening. It's completely normal and expected.
>>738995183of course the music jews would give their tribe a favor like this
>>739003934Anita Sarkeesian isn't a Sweet Baby Inc. employee and attempts to drag her back into the limelight are nothingburgers, yes. It was an enormous mistake to make her out as a she-devil in the first place because of her entire business being a nothing burger, let alone the fact she wasn't the intellect behind her own operation.
>>739003728>Are immigrants eligible for state benefit programs?>In some states, yes. https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Immigrants-and-Public-Benefits-FINALupdated.pdf
>>739004052no she isnt a sweet baby inc employee.she works in the exact same role to this day and still influences game companies.
>>738999492He’s Russian
>>739004056Looks like those are some very specific programs and mostly in and around the state of California for anything that isn't medical, this document is quite careful to say most of what an illegal or undocumented is going to get is emergency medical help. Where's the gibs? You told me there were gibs.
>>739003253This anonymous human is right! We should send all our money to us, I mean the beavers!
>>739004118She's a professional Name That Appears In Credits, yes.
>>739003575They are called Dragon Baby now.
All these threads ever do is reinforce the fact that chuds have zero interest in participating in the arts nor civics
>>738994395It's incredible how much /v/ doesn't understand game development, or any business for that matter.90k for the entire dev time is nothing, you can pay for what? 2, 3 months of salary for a small team? It's the bog standard government help for a project, and there's layers to the stupidity of someone that thinks helps shouldn't exist in a country willing to grow its economy. No wonder this poojet thinks it's a lot of money, it's more he'll ever see in his life.
I can tell you guys are white and privileged cause it’s incredibly hard to get benefits from the state and they don’t even give that much
>>739004254They have lots of interest in rigidly controlling those things and in making sure those things receive no money because they're "wasteful," but no interest in participating.
>>739004171ඞඞඞ
>>739004310America is uniquely obsessed with the idea of a "welfare queen" that is, somehow, receiving an unspecified but large amount of money from state or federal government in return for simply existing. Like many things since the early 1900s it's mostly a trojan horse against the ideas of left-wing economic models or a planned economy.
>>739004167medical is in fact part of gibs. it also brings up food programs that just arent SNAP.kit also mentions "Cash Assistance Program for Immigrants".like come on niggie. everybody knows that illegals benefit greatly from leeching from tax payers this isnt 2018 anymore.
>>739004231pathetic.
>>739004267-he is european-the game is financed by a billionaire already and has no need for government grants
>>738995516Not a single movie game escapes this controversy. Gone Home still generates butt hurt
>>738996949>>738995551>I don't need to make an argument, it's just that obvious, okay? If you can't divine whatever nonspecific issue from my vague gesturing then that's your fault!
>>739004547there is no vague posting you are just low iq.
>>739004547Astroturfing, probably. Never forget r/conservative turning out that half of its daily activity was Russian bots, primarily two accounts, and when Plebbit started putting in better anti-bots, hundreds of thousands of daily posts all vanished. There's lots of money and political clout in consensus farming and perpetuating a useless culture war!
>>739004637go back
>>739004410of course welfare queens exist.all you need to do is be born black or be a pencil pusher in the army and claim you got PTSD from excel spreadsheets.
>>739004440Your own evidence that they benefit greatly and basically in perpetuity suggests against it, these "gibs" programs both need to be actively sought by an illegal immigrant and, probably intentionally, put them on file, which means they have an easier time becoming legal. The amount of help they receive isn't specified in this overview, just that they get help. I can't say in good conscience that I'm against the idea of Pedro getting a broken arm set, or gets some food, especially knowing all the white guys around him have similar or the same programs available and are simply not using them. It's actually astonishing how many social programs America has that its people just don't know exist, primarily because their local, state, and federal governments go out of their way to not tell people these programs exist. Unless they're Fox News ragebaiting against brown people again, then programs bad.>>739004740"Dem darkies gettin handouts" is an interesting position to take with Alabama reinstating Jim Crow laws.
>>739004410My states takes 10 years to fix a a couple mile of roads
>>739004826Did you know it's illegal to *not* design your town or city around the existence of motor vehicles in America?
>>738995186What's wrong with pirate nation? It's just a best way to get all relevant /v/ and important to /v/ news without wasting all day monitoring /v/'s catalog an r*ddit? It's better than shitkaku complex.
>>739004804>How do you get public gibs without a social security number its just a FOX conspiracy!>like this>UHHH ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING IT HAPPENS NEVERMIND THAT I JUST LIEDnot one genuine bone in your body.
>>738994395if you don't cut out the profile name I will just assume you're shilling your account
>>738994395just because a game is short or don't have a lot of people playing it doesn't mean it isn't good
>>739004930>like this>actual hand-outs (food, etc) or medical help>not direct cash flowSo they're not welfare queens and they're not getting gibs in the way implied. Man accuses mirror every time he posts.
>>739004881crazy that modern infrastructure is a requirement for building cities.clearly delivery drivers, maintenance and ambulance workers and fire fighters should just bring things on foot.I guess even your beloved public transport should be optional.
>>739005147America is very uniquely car-dependent and will ignore its own rules on bankruptcy and defaults to bail out auto companies, anon.
>>739004910OP's post alone is ragebaiting about public art funding in 'Straya being undeserved, no he is not actually better than Sankaku Complex's 24/7 butthurt news feed.
>>739005186good. important industries and infrastructure should be protected.farmers too.
>>739005275it is undeserved though.
>>739003842I mean, City Councilmen are directly elected.
>>739004524-then he's fucking retarded, he should be aware of that kind of basic thing-What billionaire? The head of Annapurna? You think because the founder of your publisher is rich you're gonna get all the money in the world?
>>739004251Don't spread disinfo, Dragon Baby is an entirely seperate font of evil.
>>739005384>You think because the founder of your publisher is rich you're gonna get all the money in the world?the game got licensing deals not even rockstar get while bribing all journos and most youtubers lmao.
>>739005275He's right.
>>739005452The amount of copies this game is expected to sell is orders of magnitude less than GTAV sales. Of course they the music industry would demand more money from Rockstar.
>>739004881That's rapidly changing. Haven't you heard of 'Vision Zero'? The war on cars? The push for 15-minute cities?
>>739005275Wait a minute > A$90,000 is $64,354.50 usdJesus Christ it’s literally nothing that’s not even enough to pay a game dev
Its things like >>738995516going full on "look guise it has hetero romance" as if normalcy was a concession what give me pause, not to mention how half the industry has decided to go insane for a western-made VN drawn in Concord style.You end up nooticing even if you dont want to.
>>739005586thats cope because rockstar also expects orders of magnitude more profit from selling their game to make up for production costs.
>>739005787the cost of an actual indie games development is only rent
>>739005186That happened decades ago, tho.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkT768QevrU
>>739004267MAYBE PEOPLE'S TAX MONEY SHOULDN'T BE WASTED ON ENTERTAINMENT MEDIA.this really isn't hard to understand. fund roads. fund healthcare. fund mental health infrastructure. don't fund media, don't fund the MIC, and don't fund isreal.
>>739005787Yeah that's the thing too Pirat_Nation is having a fucking melty about an amount of money that's almost nothing for game dev. Aussie dollars get called 'roos 'cuz they just hop right outta ya pocket ay
>>739005850It's on Rockstar for not offering enough money. I recall some 70s musician turning down putting his song in GTAVI because they only offered him $7,500.
>>739005452And? If you know the exact details of the contract go for it, but otherwise I doubt you can link that to the budget of the game.
>>738994604you forgot the part where most of the staff left in 2024, well after beloved games were published, specifically because of the nepobaby.https://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-annapurna-interactives-entire-staff-resigned/1100-6526643/>Earlier this month, Annapurna Interactive lost the entirety of its staff after all 25 members collectively resigned and walked out. The news came as a shock to some, as Annapurna has published a number of highly praised games (including Stray, Outer Wilds and The Artful Escape) and is currently in the process of developing a Blade Runner game. So what happened?A recent report from IGN sheds some light on the issue. According to the report, changes in leadership played a major role, but the tale leading up to the mass walkout is a complicated one that requires a quick history lesson on the company's past to truly understand.Annapurna Interactive was founded by Annapurna Pictures owner (and daughter of billionaire Larry Ellison) Megan Ellison in 2016. At the time, Annapurna Pictures was struggling financially, and Ellison handpicked Nathan Gary, Deborah Mars, and Hector Sanchez--who had all previously worked for Sony--to help guide the new gaming studio's path forward. Sanchez left the team in 2019, and Capybara Games co-founder Nathan Vella joined the team shortly thereafter. 2019 also saw Ellison effectively disappear, effectively leaving Annapurna Interactive to its own devices, but the billionare movie mogul returned to a more hands-on role in 2021.Go be a shill somewhere else
>>739006094>And?you are right it probably cost pennies. its also a coincidence that it had an insane marketing campaign and was backed by a gorillionaire.
>>738999309>pretending they're indie because they're 'small' titles when they're not indie at all.Indie games are indie because they are made by a small developer team on a low budget, that's the case for mixtape. Expedition 33 is way less indie than Mixtape.The publisher isnt "massive" by any metric, not that it matters. A big publisher could help fun indie studios, that doesnt mean they are putting a lot of money in it - its a business aimed to get a return for investment, maybe to get rights to IP, to merch or whatever. Stop making up conspiracy theories to fit your narrative.
>>739006267not indie.
>>739006195>insane marketing campaignThe only place I see this game talked about is here.
we got actual industry shills in this thread right now.
>>738995926Except this "coverage" doesn't translate to sales, evidently.Not that it needed to sell anyways because of the public funding, you dip. Literally the two things we're talking about in this thread and you fail to connect the two.
>>739005946Rent isn’t cheap. Then you got food ,car payment, gas , car insurance, and health insurance and then food for you 1 cat and 1 dog
>>739006364thats nice that you choose to play ignorant.
>>739006435Where have you seen ads for Mixtape?
>>738994395Oh damn it's 10/10? It doesn't get better than that anon!
>>739006304Yes youre dumb and listen to people who lie to you.
>>739005820>drawn in Concord styleHow the fuck is this even remotely Concord style?
>>739006542>AIjeet
>>738994604Damn bro. You stopped sucking corpo dick just to post this?
>>73900647310/10 from journoloids and youtubers all across twitter.they were showing off their special review merch boxes too.it was also at the game awards and geoff recently shilled it again at launch.
>>739006046The people who say this always wind up boosting military spending while slashing mental health spending without fail
>>739006607I can phonepost perfectly fine while sucking dick
>>739006542>its indie because>it suxohsomeone should tell super meatboy that it sux now
>>739006657I heard about the 10/10s but those are expected for a short, easy game that makes reviews nostalgic. Dunno about the rest, so I'll take your word for it and assume you're right.
>>738999309looking at different industries no one really seem to know what "indie" ismost of them attribute it to self publish, while in some others it's budgetand then there's the movie industry where it's anything not published by the big 5
>>738994395no one tell him about all the other annapurna games, kek
>>739006046Leftist detected
>>739000112>for the past 15 years I've been told that the rest of the worldyeah the boogeyman under your bed was telling you that.
>>739000209annapurna isnt a gaming studio dumbo, they have made 0 games.
>>739003229>xqcKill yourself.
>>739006046Why should taxes fund roads and healthcare? The purpose of the state is to provide security. Funding healthcare is not more valid than funding video games. Neither have anything to do with security.
>>739002726Do you invite them to a coffee?
>>739003229>Aussie vidya developmentthe only thing I know about them is that in every piece of media they create they have to humiliate themselves and kiss the feet of petrol sniffers
>>739002948Israel is a liberal utopia so it fits.
>>739007179kek it's so funny when you play a game whose setting has nothing to do with Australia at all and it goes THIS WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY STEALING LAND AND WE'RE SORRYBut anon is correct that every vidya dev uses art funds like that. Everyone was mad about Ubisoft doing it, for example
>>739000472>fleecing the taxpayerthat didnt happen. If anything its the "Vicscreen" that "fleeced" the government. But i dont think they fleeced anyone, the whole point of Vicscreen is to support state's "film, TV, digital games, VFX, and broader screen industries. It invests in production, development, skills training, festivals, and incentives to attract local and international projects." and that's what they did.You cant say "fleeced" just because you didnt like the output. You must therefore argue against the existence of such a program, and say you dont support development of those industries and want them to go to China instead.
>>738994395Just wanna point out how utterly repulsed I am by these three creatures. Whoever designed them hates humanity and themselves.
>>738996758>7/10 for this gameyea right. 3/10 best
>>7390042672k salary can fund a three person team for a year.
>>739007335Those programs are bad because government has no business funding them. Stolen tax money should only be used for things it's impossible for the free market to provide. Entertainment is not one of those.
>>738995183"great". that just about x10 the costs. forget 5 million for ost loisenc, it was freaking 50m !!some "indie" alright
>>739007459I dont care for this view anymore, so much bullshit goes on in giv spending that spending a minuscule amount on art is really not a big deal.
>>738994395that's how these people get rich in the first place, just endless grift and stealing your money.
>>738994604Lmao, rich people will not pass the opportunity to not pay for something
>>739007469>made up numbers>am going crazy
>>739004410Why not implement Universal Basic Income then? Why all the grants go towards minorities and rich nepobabies?
Leftsisters be like>All our problems can be solved with government programs and taxes. Errrrm why do you care where those taxes go, chudigger?
>>738996138I think they're just greedy cunts.
>>739007626Because it would increase inflation 4x
>>738995516Sure, games only flaw is its not a game, but otherwise its all peachy.And to be precise, most of the controversy is about the blatant shilling and toxic jornos. (sounds quite familiar somehow)
>>739007626UBI means money isn't getting government funneled into rich peoples' accounts, regardless of every company losing their fucking minds and assuming the COVID quarantine mega-profit would last forever when everybody was getting UBI under unemployment through relief programs.Yes it actually is this stupid, rich people would rather embezzle the money than get it through purchases, and get angry when they can't have it both ways.
>>739007501>there's already tons of bad things, so that justifies making it even worse!
>>739007638/v/ fucking loves supporting Stop Killing Games
>>738994395usually to get government grants in australia your game needs to be all about aboriginals so this is pretty interesting
>>739007130Since they're recruited online, probably not unless they just happen to live in the same area.
>>739007638Fundamentally you're getting mad about the government throwing around enough money that people can pursue leisure or hobby careers as an actual option, which is really funny and infantile at the same time. People do like a "suffering artist" after all
>>739007645They are, as mentioned earlier they offered a guy just $7500 to put his song in GTA.
>>739007786That doesn't require taxpayer money or a government program THOUGH
>>739007770I dont see funding (a miniscule) amount of art as a bad thing
>>739007846>Fundamentally you're getting mad about the government letting billionaires shuffle money around but its okay when we do itFTFY
>>738994395I literally don't care about this or the game.
>>739007626>UBIwill also require abolishing capitalism. I wonder how will all the richfags feel about that
>>738994395>nepobaby
>>739007910>the government letting billionaires shuffle money aroundSomehow I don't think this is what you're actually concerned about since we've been watching America do it without even pretending to hide it since the last election
This was slop too and completely overrated when it came out
>>739006267Annapurna used to do mostly indie-scale projects, but some of their games ballooned into AA games like Outer Wilds. The problem is that they are now moving into full blown AAA territory with Control 2 and Silent Hill Townfall.Mixtape is 20 developers and a QA team of 20 people, so it's well into AA territory. The licensed music is also not something a real indie could get.
>>739007921Richfags will fucking hate it, ever since capitalistic models started appearing with the Industrial Revolution mega-business owners have been the reigning aristocracy, and they're going to fight with everything they've got to make sure their spot isn't up for grabs.
>>739007924ikr? Just say jewish.
>>739007991I don't think that was pushed as much as Mixtape but it's definitely the same type of shilling where no one ever mentions the nonexistent gameplay
>>738994395Nepobabies are the real enemy of the common man and always have been. Who do you think is constantly fucking everything up?
>>739007980>Okay chud this company MIGHT literally be run by the child of a billionare but them getting government funding intended for underfunded independent projects is okay because it just isLeftsissies stop tongue kissing billionaires challenge
>>739007846Its on the most basic level unfair and its clearly not being distributed well either.I'm not even fundamentally against government funding the arts but I have a big problem when things like this get gamed and its infuriating when the answer you receive is "well everybody does it lol".
>>739006995I didn't said studio.
>>739006542>it's indie because it's called that waykek
>>739008063>jews own the media>jews use the media to shill goyslop gameNow I'm concerned this game has secret faggotry lgbtranny shit
>>738994395The Australian govt. isn't collecting enough taxes from the retarded "she'll be right" peasants. They're actually happy to pay more.
>>739007854even back in gta vice there were problems with lack of payment
>>739008016>The problem iswhy is that a problem. Its a publisher, they are not developers. Are you a fucking retard?>so it's well into AA territoryno it is not.> real indieretard
>>739008140Well, yeah, it's literally the entire point that everybody who applies for it with an art project gets it. It defeats the point of the endeavor entirely to go "oh you'll only get this $90k aussiebux, basically nothing btw, if WE like your work." Concern trolling a public program into uselessness.
>>739007991>what about cute cat game everyone can relate toNice try shill.
>>739007663>muh inflation Somehow not a problem when you spend a trillion dollars on another Jew war.
>>739008140I AM against government funding the arts. The state should be providing infrastructure, safety, and welfare. Not blowing its tithes on shitty ass cat games
>>739008225same slop producer as mixtapeare YOU a shill?
>>739008238Also not a problem for anybody who understands the US economy and the backing of the USD, which is the USA saying over and over "we're good for it bro trust" and trust built on government bonds bought by other nations. Endless cycle of countries offloading their own debt onto the USA which then forgives its own debt, which is also why the national debt basically doesn't matter (not that this is encouragement to raise it any higher, it's no secret that every Republican president massively increases spending and then bitches about the deficit they caused, and every Democrat president massively decreases it just for the next Repub to increase it again)
>>739007887If you want government to fund entertainment then you don't believe in capitalism. You may as well abolish private property and make the state run everything.
>>739008304>same slop producer as mixtapeYou're shill because you know such information. Sorry but it was cute kot game without DEI woke slop.
>>739008473>0 mention of gameplayOf course
>>739007790Why not hire someone from same country?
>>739008459>muhcapitalismThen government should stop giving subsidies and taxbreaks to biggest cocksuckers on the planet.
>>738994395Governments funding the arts is nothing new or shocking, even if it does produce a lot of schlock. That kind of system is how we got all of Uwe Boll's bullshit movies.
>>739008473the message is antihumanist and catslop is inherently a tranny magnetit IS DEI wokeslopalso no gameplay
>I hate game journos, they're wrong all the time and they're paid off and they're gross! I don't care about them at ALL!!>WHAAAAAAT?!?! THOSE GAME JOURNOS I DON'T CARE ABOUT GAVE SOME RANDOM DOGSHIT NOBODY WOULD'VE EVER HEARD OF A 10/10 WHILE MY FAVORITE OPEN WORLD/GOONSLOP GOT A 7?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!You're just mad that you're sitting on the computer all day getting angry on welfare while people way richer, smarter, and well-adjusted than you are actually doing something with their time and getting rewarded for it. Spend a few more months here, that'll fix your life
>>739008459>if you believe running is a good way to work out why dont you run until you pass out of exhaustion huh, checkmateI accept your concession.
>>739008570Correct. Things currently being bad is not a moral justification to make them even worse.
>>739008587lefty melty
>>739008241without government funding threatre and orchestra might just become lost art and the future is nothing but coco melon and AI slop because thats what the brown masses think is great.
>>739008497>>739008586>gameplayShartykeks pls. You don't play games with gameplay.
>>739008587Mental illness ass post
>>739008241>I WANT ALL THE BENEFITS OF BREAD AND CIRCUSES BUT BREAD IS GAY AND CIRCUSES ARE CRINGEYou're an idiot, anon
>>739008196There are indie publishers and AAA publishers. There is no in-between.
>>739008587chat is this real
>>739008601Oh, so there's an ideal amount of government funding? How much is it, then? 1%? 10%? 99%? How do you know that it isn't 100%?
>>739008063not all nepobabies are jewish.this one is though.
>>739008350Shalom.
>>739008792May as well have posted an A. Wyatt Mann comic for all it contributed anon
>>739008473>I'm the one saying this game by a suspect publisher is good but you're the shill. What are you shilling, you ask? Uhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>739007991I remember people being interested because playing as cat could be VERY fun and then everybody instantly lost interest when it was revealed that it was a walking sim.
>>739008196it is in fact not real indie.
>>738994395a billionaire is literally paying this guy more than $90000 to tweet
>>739008473Stray had fail states.
>>739008915meds
>>739008548Who says they're not? This country is big.
>>739008989look at the blue checkmark
>>739002326It wasn't spammed on xitter, and people were too distracted jerking off to the porn.
>>739008587Post nose.
>>739008626>>739008689>>739008730>>739009026If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?
>>739008350Only Dem President in recent history who reduced spending and balanced the budget was Bill Clinton (with honorable mention to Newt Gingrich). Carter and Obama both left office with the deficit higher than when they entered.
>>739008820>A. Wyatt Mann comic That's quaint.
>>738994730No taxpayer money should go to luxuries like videogames
>>739008676>seething about some dead imageboard splinteridiot and if anything shartyniggers would be the ones spamming that shitty cat walking simulator on the board
>>739009015do you actually believe that twitter pays out close to $90k
>>739009001Which country?
>>739008586>catslop is inherently a tranny magnetThey say on the internet no one knows you're a dog, but you just outed yourself, doggo.
>>739009116>No taxpayer money should go to luxuries like videogamesWhy?
>>739008830Mixtape shill uses his WHAT ABOUT KOT GAME IT WAS DEI WOKE tactic to deflect all criticism and attention from Mixtape in Mixtape thread while pretending to be a CHUD 4CHANNELER (Literally me)Yes I can see through your tricks shartytroon
>>739008587All the replies are mindless seething, so you must be right.
>>739009141for most people no. but there are people (conservatives) who get paid over 10k a month
>>738994604>You suggest she has infinite money so it's obvious that journos must be paid off. >So why do they need 90k$ which is chump changeYes, she has infinite money, that she gets from her multi billionaire daddy.Yes, games journos are paid off.So, why do they need 90k$ which is chump change, gee anon I don't know why would anyone take free money if offered. Truly is a mystery. Even a rich person will take free money, wouldn't you?
>>739009064
>>739009064Chatgpt, what does that have to do with anything?
>>739009173The good ol' US of A. Toronto and Montreal are way closer to here than San Francisco.
>>739009206meds
>>739009225I definitely wouldn't spend any amount of effort (you have to fill in a form to apply for an arts grant) for the equivalent of 3 bucks, even if it is free moneyBut I value my comfiness
>>739009196Genuine insanity: the post
>>738994395https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GuillotineAnybody remember the French Revolution?
>>739009140>dead imageboard splinterTheir board farms (You) 24/7 LMAOThey also nuked Gelbooru from cloudflare recently
>>739009269https://x.com/usanewshq/status/2047839089559310728
>>739009357> They also nuked Gelbooru from cloudflare recentlyEveryone should hope off the cloudflare train
>>739009196>to deflect all criticism and attention from MixtapeLiterally how is it doing that, schizosister?
>>739009196>you're a mixtape shill because you hate similar slop games /qa/ lost projecting toxoplasmosis addled tranny
>>739009347>I want to murder people over video gamesEven the tranny fucker who killed Kirk disagreed with his politics on relatively important things.
>>739009257So you are Canadian?
>>739009357And you reveal you and all the other stray shills are shartyfaggots in the anti tranny game threadGo back, /qa/ subhuman
>>739009095Maybe Republicans should stop leaving recessions and wars or in their wake for Democrats to pick up the pieces afterwards or playing the Two Santas game
>>739009472The Jews killed Charlie tho.
>>739009436All other hosters are easy to DDOS and they will kneel faster than cloudflare to any reports.
>>739009480No? Reread my post. I'm American.>>739009501I agree. At least Dems are honest about their spendthrift ways.
>>738994395Who pays for these endless outrage farm twitter promotion threads?
VIDEO GAMES
>>739009501>Dem presidents balanced the budget!>Okay they didn't but—As useful of an idiot as a MIGAhead lmao
>>739009551>AmericanThe continent?
>it's just not FOR youneither are women's bathrooms and other people's children but that hasn't stopped any of you.
>>739009498If you hate kot game you're zoomer subhuman who shouldn't belong on 4chan.Now feel free to past animal gore you sick fuck. I know your nature
The most subtly funny part of this game is that she's a hipster and I've never heard of 70% of these songs because they couldn't afford Bowie
>>739009543fent killed him
>>739009569>—
>>739009560Probably Larry Ellison.
>>738994881If it's self published then yes, yes it fucking is. Deal with it cunt muffin shitbrain poopy breath BOOGER BRAIN!
>>739009397>$83k over three yearscongrats on your below wallshart cashier income I guess.
>>739008709>UHM, UHH, I WANT SHITTY ANNAPURNA SLOP BECAUSE I CALLED THE CIRCUSES GAYFucking dumbass leftist
>>738994395>posts a pic from a billionaire-owned website
>>739009591Two continents, actually.
>>739009620It's shitty dad rock from a specific era.
>>739009659would you say the same about mixtape which only got 7k more despite being in development for more than 3 years? i accept your concession in advance.
>>738994395Wait don't they have American accents in the game? Aren't government grants meant for art pertaining to the country?
>>739009303Because, filling out a form to get free 3 dollars is the same as, filling out a form to get free 90 thousand dollars. What did anon mean by this.
>>739009736of course not because its not government money.what a convoluted gotcha attempt.
>>739009758It is in fact the equivalent because her net worth is so high, genius
>>739009736
>>739009659>wallshart cashier WTF? Is this true? Why most US anons can't even afford 5090 then?
>>739009742Cult of the Lamb and Untitled Goose Game got grants, and those have nothing to do with Australia.
>>739009698It's three you fucking racist chud.
>>739009848wallshart actually pays kinda decently and better than many other jobs.but also many americans are fucking terrible with money.
>>739009798so if the money is given out as a government grant which is the literal will of the people and they voted for it, that's bad. but if an israeli asset does it to spread propaganda, it's good. sneed.>>739009836free palestine
>>739009742I've been wondering this myself, Australia should be funding games taking place in Australia. If it takes place in a fantasy land, no big deal, but setting it in California? Like there aren't enough games set there, and enough software companies there?
>>738997495>why are journalists biased and corruptwhy do pilots fly planes
>>739009892What's the third? Greenland?
>>739009958the puropse of the grant is to encourage local studios which means creating australian jobs
>>738994604Johnny Galvatron's parents are rich ozzie real estate moguls. His entire adult life has been his mom and dad bankrolling his failure to launch "music" career. He spent the 2010's becoming friends with a handful of other champagne rebel Bay Area games press types who are now jerking his nostalgia bait act off on their own platforms.
>>739010002See? You might as well be an Atomwaffen mwmber,
>>739010049I honestly don't get it, please explain before the thread 404s.
>>739009831I'm a retard that makes a false equivalence argument because three dollars is the same as ninety thousand because she is rich. Yeah she's rich dumbass, you don't think rich people will take free government money, lol.
>>739009663>NO SLOP>ONLY HIGH QUALITY (I PERSONALLY APPROVE OF)
>>739010309Yes.
>>739010309if it's high quality people wouldn't pirate it so hard there needs to be tax grants to cover the loss LMAO
>>738994395We really should restart GamerGate. They've been building up the kinda shit we fought all over again.
