>dev refuses to ever put game on sale>pirate it and refuse to ever pay for said gamehow do (You) personally get back at developers for pissing you off?
>>739000025Sales make zero sense. If a game is worth $20 then it's worth $20, does its worth randomly change with time?
>>739000141I will not pay full price for a game if I am not able to determine it's worth beforehand
>>739000025>Game has hundreds of hours of playtime>Costs about $35 or something>/v/ is frothing at the mouth about this>Shit AAA movie game comes out for $70+ tip for four hours of playtime>/v/ loves thisYou faggots don't even like videogames.
>friend pirated game>wont disable auth so he can't join our serverLmao eat shit nerd
>game, 20 dollars:(>game, 20 dollars (50% off):)
>>739000221>/v/ is one guywhoa what the hell
>>739000025If you want to pirate then just pirate faggot, don't come here expecting a pat on the back
>>739000214But it has a demo. You played the demo, right?
Just pirate it if this gets your panties in a twist.It's a good game, but then this is /v/ so naturally you're going to say it's shit because you children need to be contrarian at all times.
>>739000272What a deal, and Valve only takes 40%!
>>739000309I want to test the game, not a hand-selected piece of it.
>>739000141Worth is determined by the customer and what they are willing to pay. That is why things go on sale; to sell to the customers who do not believe it is worth the normal asking price.
I dunno what to say, anon. They aren't going to change their minds on this because of your 40th thread crying about it. Get a job or something, or maybe just get another game?
You have to use jewy tricks to be seen as a good guy dev.Should have priced it at $30 and have frequent 33% off sales.
>>739000554He's trolling for (You)s and you're giving them to himEndless fucking September, I swear to Christ
>>739000637he didn't give a (You) dumbfuck
>buying the game on steam and linking it to an account on wube's website let you download a standalone, drm-free copy of it.Devs are incredibly based.
>>739000141No, but the number of consumers willing to pay more for the game does. To say otherwise is context denial. A game will sell the most copies on its first release unless subject to a later rerelease. Sales of the initial release trickle off because everyone willing to pay full price to get it at launch already did so. Putting a game on sale is a means of making money off customers who wouldn't otherwise be customers. Since it costs nothing but server hosting space to distribute a digital copy, a video game also isn't something that can be sold at a loss since it's supply is infinite
>>739000025Two options:1. Put game on sale>people who bought the game are less happy>people who didn't think your game was worth the price originally are happier.2. Never put the game on sale>everyone who bought the game and were happy with the price are happy>people who don't think your game is worth the price and haven't played it are unhappy
what do you even do in this game
>>739000025Paying 5 % of its original price on third party sites makes devs extremely butthurt.
>>739001345>concerned
>>739000141>Sales make zero sense.>does its worth randomly change with time?
>>739001407okay I googled. sounds boring. I'll pass. unless it goes on sale for $5
>>739000281Hivemind, one guy, all, the same
>>739001008I like the dev's idea for pricing since it offers more to people who've already bought the game.Normal sales:>Game releases for $60, price targeting early adopters>Sales snag people on the fence about it by gradually lowering the price>No incentive for buying in early since you pay more other than you get the game earlier than others>Eventually, people stop buying games at full price, have to game the system like releasing for $100 and doing 50% off sales just to move anythingFactorio:>Game releases at $20 in a beta state>Evaluate the game's content, decide it's not worth picking up because the content is too light>Instead of lowering the price, the dev continues to add more content>Eventually there's enough content in the game that the $20 is worth it, pick it up>Early adopters pay the same as everyone else and continue to get more content, meaning the game they bought appreciates in value>Later purchasers pay the same price, so there's no incentive to wait for a cheaper saleI'd rather a game I bought keep getting content after the fact rather than cash out and try and get Ivan, Jose, and Pajet's few pennies.
>>739000025Why do you have to let everyone else know that you are a faggot? Are you seeking validation from other retards for what you are doing? Why does it have to be here?
>>739000025>dev refuses to ever put game on saleLOL, you're a retard. The game was on a GOG sale at least once since that is where i bought it.
>>739000365And whatever's left is slashed in currency conversion feesAnd whatever's left is slashed in transaction feesAnd whatever's left is slashed in income taxesAnd whatever's left is slashed in whatever bullshit cut some rando wants to takeAnd then they're slashed again whenever they spend it as well
>>739000365just sell on sony and nintendo then
>>73900220510 years ago faggot
>>739002124seething paypig
>>739002496You should've bought it then. You people missed on so many great sales GOG had.>all D&D games budled together(this included the DOS games)>all the Might&Magic games bundled together(this included the Heroes of M&M games)I bought so many games on GOG during the insomnia sales days. Now it's mostly good sales during the Summer and the Winter GOG sales.
>>739002771yeah and if your mother swallowed we wouldn't be having this useless conversationtheoreticals are useful to nobody
>>739002851There are no theoreticals. You're simply a faggot that missed his chance. By the way you're acting i can bet that you're a Steam only sissy and did not even know about the GOG sales.
The devs have outright stated that if you're a poorfag just pirate the game they don't even put drm on it, the fuck you're complaining about massive faggotron?You're just doing what the devs wanted.
>>739002052Nah, fuck it. The deal was for a dinar, you get a dinar. Don't be mad that someone else got a different deal.
>>739000141If there was more actual competition for Factorio a lower price might actually make sense. So far we have Satisfactory (Released. Costs more than factorio) Captain of industry (Early access that already has DLC) Dyson sphere program (Early access) Star Rupture (Early access) The Crust (Early access) Foundry (Early access) and on and on it goes. There's a few that are released but they're usually far different than factorio. Mindustry is literally free but is combat focused tower defense. Shapez2 is cheaper but is focused on blueprint building with no combat. Desynced released but most people are too dumb to be able to play it (like me)
So how was Space Age? I felt it was too long, you need to basically complete the original game before you even think about space platforms or reaching new planets and it burned me out by the time I could reach Aquilo.
>>739000025>>pirate it and refuse to ever pay for said gamethe dev has gone on record and said pirate it if you need to, you're just paying for forum services and ease of mod support. you're not getting back at anybody.
>>739003397Some good and a lot of bad, but I realized after trying out Space Exploration that it could've been much worse.>Vulkanus is boring, Fulgora is good, Gleba is annoying, Aquilo is a non-entity>Shattered planet endgame is non-existent>Quality is cancer and leads to tons of retarded shit: upcycling, recyclers, tiny factories becoming the meta, train logistics completely demolished by legendary prod modules>One space depot per planet is stupid>There's just barely not enough tools to make handling spoilage not annoying>Limiting building production to specific planets is retardedBut it could've been much worse. Space Exploration's retarded expensive rockets, silly long space science production chains and as far as I can tell no good way of efficiently transporting fuel is so much worse.
>>739000025Either play the game or don't, why do you have to justify if you boughted or pirated, who gives a shit.
>>739000025>>739000576>>739001405>>739002496>hurr durr I'm so fucking retardedIt isn't our fault you can't shop.
>>739004149>>Vulkanus is boring, Fulgora is good, Gleba is annoying, Aquilo is a non-entityVulcanus is amazing for making retardedly good smelting facilities, it's like playing with cheats on.I agree Fulgora is great once you work it out. Either by bots or a chain of conveyors sorting and recycling everythingGleba sucked ass. I figured it out and got it working without needing my attention after a while, but I still hate the place. Luckily, once you get it the base there can be tinyAquilo looks pretty but the whole thing is just shipping everything there. You essentially have to make a big cargo ship and deliver an entire base there because you can't do fuck all on that frozen dead world.Quality was fun, if only to make an unnecessary rare mech suit that could run at sanic speeds, but I'll never bother with that again because it was pointless after all the effort.
>>739003113Who said anything about being mad? In the first scenario, I stop buying games at full price, or at all unless they're heavily discounted. In the second, I buy a game at full price with the idea that the value will appreciate it, making my purchase better over time. I am more likely to pay more and sooner in the second scenario, provided the developer has thus far delivered.A sale is simple quick liquidation, wringing out the last few drops from a market that otherwise wouldn't purchase a game to begin with. The only way a sale benefits me is if a static product released that I would never be interested in buying at the current price, thus lowering it to an amount I find agreeable, which is typical for the vast majority of games. Those are the sort of games that clutter up my library and never get played except for once as consumable entertainment, good for a weekend only.For a game I'm truly interested in and going to keep playing, I'd far rather it be the second option and improve over time. There's so few games worth playing these days that something actually good coming out is worthwhile sale or not.
>>739003397I feel like space age was too backloaded, that sort of design would be good for a linear game like an RTS or whatever, but the expansion would've benefited from more interaction with space early.Like, allowing the player to start on different planets, with a modified tech tree to support it, would've been a lot of fun and added variety to the early game. Until you have blue science going, the game is largely the same as the base game, which isn't great since a player will likely restart or play on different worlds semi-frequently.
>>739000365So buy it directly from the devs then https://factorio.com/buy
>>739002321it makes me realize just how fucking clairvoyant gabe was to set their cut at 30%. yes it's high but everyone sucks it up because valve has a virtual monopoly. the only companies that can afford to challenge them are massive billion dollar firms and the ones that have tried (ubisoft, EA, epic) fail spectacularly. are their platform cuts less than valve's? they're the only ones that could afford to lower the cut too to be more developer' friendly
>>739000025I made it!
>>739003397Making some basic tech planet-specific was idiotic>No, your engineer really cannot figure out how to blow up cliffs until he single handedly comes up with space travel to this system's equivalent to Mercury and builds a base there, why do you ask?>Artillery? No, that's also on not-Mercury.>The spidertron? No, you need to research bio-engineering on a shitty swamp world to work that out. No it doesn't matter that you'll have the new and superior mech suit by that point most of the time.It's just so arbitrary.
>>739005892I was going to say so what, but then I noticed the time. Holy shit, anon.
>>739005892>I made it!Grats on the No Spoon achievement! I've been working on a 100% run for a while, shelved it to play other games though
>>739005892I'm getting faster each time, but I doubt I'll ever get the 15 hour one, let alone launch in 8.
>>739005965It was a real shitshow. I really shouldn't have done it on default map settings.
>>739003212just play gtnh, it mogs every single factory game
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>>739000025why would that piss the dev off? He is not making his money back if he puts it on sale. Might as well pirate it changes nothing for him.
>>739006686Minecraft building is shit. Even worse than satisfactory
>>739000385>I need to try out the gamehere is the demo>n-not like thishere, hold this (you)
>>739006093You could always cheese it by saving, building the base, blueprinting it, then reloading and stamping the blueprintThat way your design time is not counted against youBut what helped me to not do that was watching speedruns and seeing how much they build in the early gameSpecifically they had 8-10 assemblers set to gears, pipes, copper wire, and green circuits that they hand-feedHere's a run in 2:19 with a random seed, default settings, no imported blueprintshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI4ocNajf_w
>>739009434>n-no dude a vertical slice is basically the same as the real thing!
>>739009729Go play the demo for ΔV: Rings Of SaturnIt's the entire game
>>739000025>dev thinks he made a good game and asks a reasonable price for itIt's based to sell your game for pennies, and piracy is based, and nintendo wanting to nickel and dime you for 50+ year old games is jewish, but I can respect a solo dev with enough faith in his game that he doesn't feel the need to put it on sale to get people to buy it.
>>739010695For good reason. A few years back the game was getting review bombed by the woke crowd because one of the devs told them to eat shit when they tried one of their little struggle sessions on him.Despite the ton of NPC-posted negative reviews screaming about "nazis" and "bigots" the review score never dipped from Overwhelmingly Positive. That's how damn good Factorio is.
>>739000025I have purchased Factorio and its DLC on PC and the Nintendo Switch 2 family of systems to counteract your protest. Make a good game and get rewarded for it. Fuck you OP.
>>739010989no you didn't
>>739000365I'm heterosexual, so I don't give a flying fuck about how much of a chunk any distributor takes out of the sale.
>>739000025Based autist not giving a fuck about hooknosed money tricks, no matter how much retards screech at him.
>>739012854You don't need to bump your own thread.
>>739000385The demo is more than sufficient for determining if you like the game or not, you whiny faggot.
>>739011968May you continue to forever not create things of your own. :prayinghands:
I love how most steam reviews for this thing are retards with 8 hours playtime gushing about how "addictive" the game is with "THE FACTORY MUST GROW XD" memes. Bitch, you played 8 hours and probably haven't got past green science yet, stop sounding like you're trying to sit at the big boy table because it's cringey.
>>739000025Factorio is worth the $35 the dev is asking for it. But I don't pay for games that are>aaa>mediocre>stutter
