Other companies: Steam is a monopoly!Steam: Provides a functioning UI, easy refunds, and free games for minor inconveniences.Other companies: No, wait, not like that. Stop being good, it makes us look bad.
>>739004685Ofc it's a monopoly
>>739004685just say jews, "other companies" is cringe
>>739004820picrelated>>739004838kek you can say that.
>>739004903weird... uploading failed.
>>739004685Steam is a monopoly.It's existence is based upon the fact that they was the most successful in implementing account based DRM thanks to Gabe having enough money early on to fund the infrastructure to make a digital platform that could withstand growth.You can say that they're "nice" or whatever but ultimately they are a monopoly, lead by a multi billionaire.
>>739004685They aren't a monopoly, they are just better than everyone else.Skill issue.
>>739005001Theres nothing stopping a competitor from doing everything steam does plus 10% more and have world class customer service. But in late stage capitalism corporations think they can do whatever they want to the consumer and we should hog slop it all up with no complaints. Usually they are correct, but right now steam isnt doing that and it makes them seethe. Valve is breaking the corpo social contract of taking advantage of poor consumers and taking all their money. Thats the real issue. Same thing happened with baldurs gate 3.
>>739004685Its easier to tear others down rather than make yourself more attractive
>>739005001someone else should do the same then. lots of people with money who want more of it. just copy steam and make it better.
>>739005769Yes, if they are willing to pay for transferring my entire library from Steam to other. That would be great! No? TOO BAD!
>>739004685Steam also arbitrarily blocks games from releasing on their platform, the only platform that people go to in order to buy games. Only an idiot would say they don't have a monopoly, and as a monopoly their review process should be less opaque and more fair, especially considering there is NO appeal process so you can get fucked by a tranny employee who flags your game for no reason because they're having a bad day.
>>739004685Major happening! Sony removes a game from some guys account. Your digital only purchases aren't safe anymore and can be removed anytime. Also senran kagura gets targeted while GTA will get a new age rating to keep it. Bulder gates is allowed but not Senran Kagurahttps://x.com/Shamrokh00/status/2055693772139159644
>>739006347Anon, stop it, everyone already knows that this is due to credit card companies and governments, not just Steam.Hence why Kickstarter banned any form of "adult content," and why a Jap who was published on DLSite had their Japanese bank tell them they were withholding payment, and also why itch.io caused a shitfit when they banned "adult content" at the behest of credit card companies.You're going to continue blaming Steam as everything becomes more and more restrictive because you're an idiot or a shill.
>>739006531Guy gets his game removed from sony storehttps://x.com/Shamrokh00/status/1930641383318077792
>>739005839consoles need a containment board, it cuts away the most cancerous and tribalistic form of discourse
>>739004685>steamdrones go for 10 minutes without licking boot>challenge impossible
>>739004685Steam is a monopoly and they deserve itFuck off Timmy stans
>>739007249let me guess, you pirate and you think you're a special boy?
>>739006531>>739006752https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037686825899/Happens to steam as well, gonna stop using steam now?
>>739005291There isn't anything stopping them except being publicly funded.Gabe being rich before Valve allowed him to fund Steam directly without having to go on the market. He's not beholden to anyone else or getting capital, he was simply rich and got richer.The only way to actually compete with Steam would be to already be rich, except with current costs you'd have to be a billionaire to begin with and then you'd bleed money, all in the hopes that both users and games migrate over.If you genuinely think it's possible, with all the money in the world to create a Steam alternative, you don't understand business at all.>>739005769>copy Steam and make it betterAnd what happens when they copy Steam, improve upon it through investing money and then users don't migrate because of their libraries and games don't get put on the platform because any user on the platform would already have Steam? Why would a game publisher waste time and money putting their game on a platform with far less reach?Steam is in a unique position, but they are foundationally a monopoly.
>>739007445>Your recent Product code activation has been revoked due to a problem processing payment for this item. The games associated with this product code can no longer be played as a result. This could be due a problem with the payment methods you used to acquire this item from a third-party seller; or a problem with how the third-party seller acquired the Product code. Please contact the seller you acquired the Product code from for assistance. If you would like to purchase the item, please visit the Steam Store.Valve has nothing to do with this, so leave them alone on this one. The keys were revoked by the developer, who can do it with cd-keys, if they have a suspision they were stolen or not paid for.Stay mad, snoygger
>>739007483>migrateno, that's retarded, nobody's rebuying gamesyou have to offer more as a steam competitor for people to give a shitand there's very little they can offer that steam doesn't have
>>739007445>>739007592https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037689890854/Dev responded: "All revoked keys have been reinstated by Steam"
>>739007592>>739007708I just received a message from Steam that all the revoked keys from bundles have been reinstated. According to them, you need to restart your Steam client and confirm that the apps are available in your library.Anyway, thank you very much for your patience. Let me make this clear, this is my fault and my fault alone. I was misinformed and I made a really stupid decision. If you are angry, your anger is justified. I won't ask you to take down your negative reviews or angry messages. It's my fault, so I won't blame anyone for getting angry at me.Also, in regard to Bundle Stars, they have paid me. This whole thing has nothing to do with them, and it was all a mistake on my end.The dev himself said he removed them, just proves that devs on Steam can whenever they want remove any games on your account for no reason.
>>739007445>Developer revokes the keys>Game become inactive>It's Steam fault!How's your extra chromosome serving you?
>>739004685>shipping with GLShow many free games are they giving out? thousands?
>>739006347ya'll will say this but we all know only pdf file games get rejected
>>739007841Why does the dev have the power to remove games on your steam account?
>>739007868I would say a lot. However, only standard edition version of the game they can pick. I know most buyers want the ultimate edition. lmao
>>739007876>>7390077596. VIOLATION OF AGREEMENT; TERMINATION OF RIGHTS AND SIE INC REMEDIESIf SIE Inc determines that you have violated this Agreement's terms, SIE Inc may itself or may procure the taking of any action to protect its interests such as disabling access to or use of some or all System Software, disabling use of this PS5 system online or offline, termination of your access to PlayStation services, denial of any warranty, repair or other services provided for your PS5 system, implementation of automatic or mandatory updates or devices intended to discontinue unauthorized use, or reliance on any other remedial efforts as reasonably necessary to prevent the use of modified or unpermitted use of System Software.sony has the right to brick your fucking hardware, humble yourself fag
>>739007971And so does Valve
>>739006347>Steam also arbitrarily blocks games from releasing on their platformSo does other platforms? Are you new to this?>My platform, my rulesLike... are you expecting them to release "TITTY BOOBA SCHOOL SHOOTING NAZI SIMULATOR 42069?" *OF COURSE* they aren't going to release TBSSNS42069, that opens them up to litigation from people being offended or targets of players that played TBSSNS42069 and killed a fellow student.They're a fucking business, Anon. They aren't an art museum (and even those have a right to refuse to take your art).
>>739007971NTA, it happens.
>>739007618>nobody's rebuying gamesYes they are but that's beside the point.Games have to exist on the platform or else you're filtering out new PC users. Anybody who wants to play PC games that aren't brand new will be giving their business to Steam, which will then build up a library of account based DRM games and stick with Steam over your platform for new releases.
>>739007996i own my computeryou don't own your consolethat's the difference
>>739008020
>>739005839>nintendo conspicuously absentHi, I'm Eric (not really, but you're going to call me that).
>>739007483This is the dumbest post in the thread. Epic has been throwing millions of dollars into their launcher constantly and its not successful or competing with steam. They dont have "all the money in the world" but they do have a lot. The issue is they are worse than steam for consumers. They dont like epic. Its run by a rich guy with typical corpo bullshit, valve is run by someone passionate about what they do and willing to take a hit financially occasionally.
>>739004685Why does Valve make snoys, xbots, tendies and epiggies seethe so much?
>>739004685Why are Steam shills so unapologetic on their corporate bootlicking? This is brony tier levels of autism.
>>739008014>>739006720THIS! The Steam defense force has arrived! Steam is the holy grail of PC gaming. Everyone on reddit agrees!
>>739007874>deemed obsceneit just comes down to legally declared that?what if the jury is a bunch of loliGODS
>>739008338Because they're faggots
>>739008338because you got upset by the post above youso which one are you?
Are we really at the point where people are fanboys for fucking game launchers
>>739005839>the tendie's three mortal enemies and then silksong to throw people off
>>739007592>be pckek>random guy can remove the stuff you paid for because he feels like itKEKKAROOOOOOO
>>739008516both sony and nintendo's terms state they get to remove your games and brick your hardware if they feel like it
the guy in the OP refused to take a game btw and said Valve deserve the money more than he wants a game. steamies lmao
>>739008648esl
>>739004820If Steam is a monopoly it's only because OTHER companies made it one through sheer incompetency on their end.
>>739008672which part of my post was gramatically incorrect?
>>739005839>no nintendoHMMMMMMM
>>739008510yeah
Steam is a monopoly in the sense that other companies can compete. Not literally, of course there are other options, but it's not even a competition.
>>739008845>Steam is a monopoly in the sense that other companies can competeAverage jeet shill post
Steam IS the holy grail of PC gaming though, unironically.
>>739004685Steam IS a monopolyBut since they're the only ones providing a good service, no one actually cares that it is. Monopolies are only an issue when they provide shitty services/goods
>>739005839Yeah man, a board for Palworld and a board for Silksong. Where you can discuss their singular game, the Pokemon lawsuit and uhh... uhh...Fuck outta here, Pokemon and Ponies are at least multimedia franchises
>>739008187>Epic has been throwing millions of dollars into their launcher I can't imagine they spent more than a couple of thousand on their launcher. Not even on their store or their website for that matter.
>>739004685PC has more game stores than any platform. It has the big stores, key sellers and even devs themselves can sell their keys on their own website.Console on the other hand is locked down and everyone is forced to sell through one store.
>>739008868Obviously I meant "can't"
>>739005839tendie cheeto hands posted this
>>739009009Wait, so you mean to tell me... that if I want to buy a game on the switch 2... my only choice is through nintendo?Isnt that... a monopoly?
>>739009089No, you could buy a playstation instead of a nintendo.
>>739004685It isn't really goodIt just has the features you expectOther storefronts don't have the features you expect
>>739009120you could buy a playstation or a nintendo instead of using steam
>>739009120What????? I have a switch 2, how do I buy a game through this "playstation"?
>>739004685I like how they don't understand how steam works, mentally or conceptually. It's like one of those "gurus" born into a wealthy, first-world family explaining to a dude who grew up shitting in a bucket how he can make money just by investing a few million in bonds.
>>739009205Every digital marketplace is dogshit but Steam is the least dogshit of them all.There is literally nothing stopping a larger game company from btfoing Valve at their own game except their own incompetence and hubris.
>>739004685Steam is only a "monopoly" because people choose to use it over every other store front due to ease of use and pro consumer practices. There entire philosophy has been, "if we provide a great service, then people will choose to use it" and it has resulted in billions of dollars in profit. Valve has never pretend to be your friend, pushed out an agenda, or acted like anything but a for profit business with reasonable costs and expectations.
Daily reminder that Steam is only a "monopoly" because Gaben was legitimately the ONLY big player who actually took PC gaming seriously and did not consider it "dead".>>739009205>It isn't good, it just gives you what you want while the competition fails to do the same thing!So Steam is good?
>>739008101v is the nintendo containment board
>>739009120Ok I buy a playstation, my only choice of buying a game is then sony...?Isnt that... a monopoly?
>>739008715you're rightas did googleit doesn't matter now and should be punished for it
>>739008936The guy who posts that is the guy who calls anyone who suggests that tendies are the pedophiles that they are "Eric." He wants ONLY positive Nintendo discussion.
Except steam is kinda useless when you have game pass
>>739009349>Daily reminder that Steam is only a "monopoly" because Gaben was legitimately the ONLY big player who actually took PC gaming seriously and did not consider it "dead".With the extra detail, now forgotten it seems, that Microsoft conspired against the PC market promoting the *fart* Xbox. With classics like:>In a statement to Strategy Informer, a Microsoft spokesperson said: "Some games are more suited for the intimacy of the PC, and others are best played from the couch in front of a larger TV screen. We ultimately realised that the most compelling way to experience Alan Wake was on the Xbox 360 platform, so we focused on making it an Xbox 360 exclusive. Both Microsoft and Remedy have long histories in PC game development. This decision was about matching this specific game to the right platform.">The decision not to make a PC version of Gear of War 2 is particularly significant for Epic Games’ who has deep roots and history on the PC platform. Due to changing environmental conditions, however, the developer felt it best to divert resources to the more profitable avenue.>“The PC right now is a fair amount different to what it was back in the day, with all the badly integrated video chips,” said Bleszinski to TVG. “Here’s the problem right now; the person who is savvy enough to want to have a good PC to upgrade their video card, is a person who is savvy enough to know bit torrent to know all the elements so they can pirate software.”
>>739004685>functioning UI
>>739009962It works on my machine™gitgud or wait for the steam machine if you are overly retarded to use the PC
>>739009932Wasn't Anal Woke 2 an Epic exclusive as well? War never changes...
>>739004685Steam would good if it wasn't hostile towards Japanese developers. Every western platform is like this and it's annoying.
>>739009932>realisedA Microsoft spokesman most definitely did not use the S. I hate br*t*sh rags.
>>739004685What game would (you) have picked?
>>739010103Almost 3 years old and it still hasn't made its budget back, but Kotaku called it a game that "is widely considered a success."
>>739010194You can walk hand in hand with girls in Bully, and that's not some shit indie game.
>>739010208>still hasn't made its budget backThat's outdated
>>739005839>no Nintendo on this list and you seem to hate palworld for some reason….
>>739008390Cope and seethe
>>739007874>posting tiktoks>from korean womeni'd call you a retard but it's not even worth it
>>739005839Will tendies ever recover?
>>739004685>Steam: Is that a completely legal game? NOOOOOOO. That game is now banned and you can no longer sell it even if you remove the offending moral contents. Go fuck yourself, degenerate retard!
>have to install Steam to play CS:S>realize there's sales on there>now I have 900 games in my library and dunno why I would ever switch to another store
>>739010275I don't believe it. 2 million copies even all at $70 won't cover that budget and shilling^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hmarketing budget.
>>739010339Pragmata is still there, and not on any other store.
>>739008204Because they hate that valve isn’t a publicly traded company that is forced to shit on their customers for the sake of quarterly earnings reports and shareholders like all of the other companies are.
>>739010406Why didn't the publisher release the game on GoG?
>>739007483>And what happens when they copy Steam, improve upon it through investing money and then users don't migrate because of their libraries and games don't get put on the platform because any user on the platform would already have Steam?I'm not sure, but I'd love to find out.>Why would a game publisher waste time and money putting their game on a platform with far less reach?money
>>739004685
>>739008510If you think steam is just a game launcher, you’re rerarded…
>>739004685it's a monopoly in the same sense Caesar was a dictatoryeah it's theoretically bad to let one entity have that much power but the entity just so happens to be benevolent and as a result it's a net good for society, at least until Gaben croaks and private equity shits up the platform, driving everyone away and effectively destroying the monopoly anyway in the process
>>739007876>why does the police have the power to remove stolen property I bought from a guy in an alley
>>739010446Because Got 0 Games refuses to put games with DRM on the store, making publishers avoid them.
>>739009684google is nsa
>>739010610So wait a second, you're saying that... publishers have a choice? Sounds like... the opposite of a monopoly...
>company is actually good for once and provides a service people enjoy and respect>it grows popular>other shitty companies complain and try to pull it down to their level and make it "fair"capitalism sure is great
>>739004685Why are steamgoyim such a cult anyway?
>>739010714best service in games
>>739005769the us is a centrally planned economy and steam is the designated actor to control the digital-download videogame market. (including a large social network to chart social relations is not incidental).you'll note that the only few serious competitors to exist have to raise capital outside the US
>>739009684The difference is that Google took advantage of their monopoly by intentionally making their service worse in order to score a profit. Steam is just the only service not retarded enough to throw out all of their goodwill for an immediate payout.
>>739010732wouldn't call having literal always online drm on your controller a good thing
>>739010782works offline
>>739010505Oh yeah, it's a gay faggot social media simulator too, way to out yourself homo. I JUST WANT TO LAUNCH MY FUKCING GAMES WITHOUT THE MIDDLE MAN
>>739010275they didn't cover that it was subsidized by being an epic game exclusive. the payment from epic is probably half or more of the sales
>>739009258the fucked up part is im a prime subscriber and didnt know Luna existed. They never fucking advertised it even during prime comercials.Every month i just picked up the GoG games and ignored all the Epic crap because fuck timmy lol. Still didnt even know what the fuck luna wasGuess they felt like showing me pharmacutical ads during commercial breaks instead of their own fucking services.
>>739010821>>739010505No no you don't understand, I literally NEED to have gay pride tranny flags all over my steam profile and a wide network of gamer trannies to help me review bomb games that are lgbt enough
>>739010782>the retard tendie rears his ugly balding head againi'll repost the slop summary because that's all you deserveand if you weren't brown you would have no issues on linux
>>739010782
>>739010553Cesar didn't do jack fucking shit in the short time he ruled, you mean Augustus
>>739010767>Steam is just the only service not retarded enough to throw out all of their goodwill for an immediate payout.recent events beg to differ>>739010894so does it have xinpout on windows without steam yet or not?
>>739010948>>739010919
If somebody made a clone of steam and took a smaller cut of the sales, they would win
>>739010948No no it's the payment processor's fault, not Steam's fault you don't understand. I have 1000 friends on Steam, I am heavily invested in this.
>>739010194give me this girl instead
>>739004685They created all modern anti consumer bullshit.
>>739010948why should i give a shit whether it supports your indian operating system?are you too low iq for linux?
>>739010948>pedo game
>>739007263This. If they were a monopoly it doesn't matter because they're the only company I can think of on planet Earth that doesn't relentlessly rape the consumer's ass. I would literally support Gabe as supreme leader of the entire world.
>>739010948>a pedo trying to make a game about 2 highschoolers fucking each others assholes means valve is deadwew lad
>>739011079You're a tranny
propaganda
>>739011160only trannies are interested in that literally gay pedo game
>>739010948How exactly did Steam gain money from this?
>>739004685>"Steam needs competition so it can get better, that's how heckin capitalism works!">Steam gets some real competition>they become just as exploitative and obnoxious as literally every other company so they can stay afloat>their reputation is destroyed>everyone loses
>>739010948we've been over this tendie, nintendo will bring down the hammer on this if they have their "no mercy" moment, they don't care about their customers, just the moneylike what they did by creating game key cards
>>739011220That means you're interested in it.
None of this is gonna matter when Gabe dies and his followers go public with Valve cause all they'll see are dollar signs. Then it'll get just as bad if not worse then other store fronts, leveling the playing field once again. Just give it another ten years. He'll bite the dust.
>>739010919>>739010973This does not add windows drivers nigga.Also it does not address valve constantly taking bribes from payment kikes to constantly ban JP games for no reason.
>>739011282>Steamgoyim instantly starts crying about nintendo the nanosecond they are shown valve is anticonsumer.Rent fucking free.
>>739008187Epic could have done it if Timmy dogface wasn't a retard who thought telling consumers about all the benefits they're giving developers would entice people to switch instead of just sucking up to the consumers directly.
>>739011319you go public to get moneyyou get less money when you're sharing it with shareholders
>>739011319That is true and all of gaming will suffer on that day
>>739011293You posted it.
>>739011325>This does not add windows driversIt does though, that's the point.
>>739011319nigger valve killed PC game ownership and made lootboxes popular and mainstream, and to this day still does nothing about the literal casinos for children using csgo skins as betting chipswhat the fuck is making you cultists think they will somehow get worse in the future? they have always been dogshit and only care about money
>>739011057>I hate refunds and linux support
>>739011364No you did.
>>739011465>>739010948
>>739011352no, valve just got forced to crack down on shit by payment processorsit will happen to nintendo when someone releases a rape game on there that gets picked up by feminists
>>739011423can you translate this into english and not post in diarrheaspeak ever again
>>739011485Yeah that's your post. Does your mom know you're a gay?
>>739011495DLsite made their own payment processor.Valve didn't even try and bought a yacht company instead, not a yacht alone, the full fucking company.I have zero clue how can anyone defend valve after this.
>>739011423There are no casinos on steam. What you do on russian websites is your business.
>>739011423>valve killed PC game ownership the internet forcing the existence of starforce and securom did that
PC rulez 4ever.
>>739011423Those are third party sites you tard. Would you rather valve lock down the marketplace? That would be far more monopolistic and anticonsumer.
>>739011423>valve killed PC game ownershipBuy games on GOG, you stupid, whiny fucking bitch.
>>739011553>>739011627There's also almost no R18 content from japan on steam these days, you have to un-circumcise the game with off-site patches these days.That doesn't stop valve from banning the games tho.
>>739011669Tons of hentai smut on steam.
>>739011669Create your own store and allow whatever dumb degenerate incel shit you want in there.
>>739010194if you pick anything costing under $70 you're a cuck
>>739009258>Goliath lostthe audacity, lmao
Play Store and App Store superiorsSteam inferior
>>739011325>This does not add windows drivers nigga.thank you for confirming you don't actually know how controller support works>b-b-but it's not xinput so it doesn't count!There's already other methods to use the steam controller with xinput-compatible games without steam. The SDL update allows for games to include native support for it so they can use the parts of the controller that aren't compatible with xinput.
>>739011721Ah yes create your own store when people literally brag that will never buy a game that's not on Steam. Stupid faggot little cocksucker.
>>739011692This.. Just because they're censored doesn't mean they're no longer smut, just like how JAV is still porn even with the pixelated genitals.
>>739011552dlsite funnels their payments through fucking shell companies for non nip users, they didn't do shitvalve can't fucking do that
>>739004980Lmao this but unironically
>>739011792go back to your incel animuu furry fingering simulators, you nasty fucking imbecile. Nobody cares about your garbage.
They really will try everything they can besides surpass steam's quality (which isnt hard to do either, the client is dogshit)
>>739009830Game pass has a small fraction of the games that steam does
>>739005001Esl. Opinion discarded, jannies, send heat seaking niggers to his house to have him raped to death.
Love Steam salesLove having to spend that extra money on computer hardware in a game of "guess the requirements" for future releasesLove playing with cheaters if devs don't keep their anti-cheat rootkits updatedSimple as
>>739011918I don't even want to play those games. It's the principle of an effective monopoly arbitrarily banning things that they don't like that bothers me.
>>739011627>Would you rather valve lock down the marketplace?yeswhy the hell does a video game store have a casino chip and nft marketplace?
>>739012072>Love having to spend that extra money on computer hardware in a game of "guess the requirements" for future releases>what are benchmarks>what are settings options>what are refunds
Which Android smartphone games would give me the image of a gamer who hates Steam, hates Valve, hates Gabe Newell, hates PC gaming, and wants smartphone games that are anti-PC in every way?
>>739004685>FunTiOniNg UiShut up anon
>>739012082banning pedo games isn't arbitrary.
>>739012187Google, yes it was Google’s own Android all along.
>>739012014what does steam have that other stores dont?hard mode, only mention shit related to actually buying and installing games, none of that pseudo social media garbo steamgoyim try pass off as "features"
>>739012082>arbitrarily banning things that they don't likeYou want to sell porn? Sell it in a shop made for selling porn. This is not rocket science
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>>739012262they arent pedo games and they arent breaking any lawsits just blatant racism against japan
>>739012146To cater to the retards that are into NFTs, just like how Valve has support for Linux, a userbase that, doesn't even hit the double digits in terms of the percentage of Steam users.
>>739012262True in theory, but the problem is people like you have started a "pedo panic" where every character who looks older than 40 years old is "pedo games." You're taking it too far and the whole situation can use a little bit of balance.
>>739012327>they arent pedo gamesThey are though that's why they get banned and all other hentai stays up.
>>739007096nah give me the PC gaming board, we get rid of other forms of cancer that way
>>739007874Obscenity laws are so notoriously retarded prosecutors try not to touch them unless there are other strong charges involved
>>739012271Google superiorValve inferiorI'd also like Android games that give me the image I want of a gamer who's anti-PC gaming and anti-Steam.
>>739010920HE FIXED THE CALENDAR GOD DAMMIT AND IN THIS BOARD CEASER IS A HERO
>>739012278>>739012278>What is two plus two?>Hard mode, dont say four, that doesnt count because I say sook
>>739012341The game anon posted is about two gay kids fucking and it shows it all.
>>739012359The most recent banwave was on stuff that did not even have "underage looking" characters anon.
>>739012278cloud saves, steam input, fast download speeds, steam families, transparent reviews, linux support
>>739012278Steam can not play browser games, all the developers were forced to recreate their games into standard windows platform - source: me, gamedev
>>739012410Oh. Well still. There are other games that don't do that, that are banned because "anime bad" or whatever.
>>739012421That's just what pedos tell themselves.
>>739004685Imagine relying on Steam when you can just pirate gamesIncredibly cringe there is still so many sheep and cattle that love sucking off big corpo and making them richerFuck capitalism
>>739012421Rance is about to be on steam. You know one of the most infamous rape series. I want you to tell the class how you managed to get your pedo game delisted while Rance got in
>>739012359>steamgoyim have become anita and kike alliesgrimno wonder you are fine with the csgo casinos preying on children
>>739012462anime is all over steam.
>>739012471>haha whitey is paying for something we saars can get for free, they're losing izzat!
>>739012471It's only through not everyone being a pirate that you even have new shit for you to pirate.
>>739012402Social media slop is literal bloat nobody cares about, go to pisscord or twatter for that shit you damn tranny.
>>739012450and that's a good thing, fuck browser games. I won't play anything I can't save locally on my machine and is at the mercy of a server
>>739012262>most profitable and overall successful media product in human history will be a mass shooting simulator in photorealistic depictions of the place I (and 24 million other people) live in>"Get thicker skin snowflake">virtual depictions of anime girls getting fucked>"ALERT THE BANKS! THIS CANT STAND!"I hate you niggers
>>739012421>>739012486Fucking black souls is on steam now.
>>739012487>>739012532die pedo
>>739012423We know reviews are not transparent you lier. Stop the propaganda.
>>739012487>csgo casinos preying on childrenoh you're that retard?how do you solve child gambling?
>>739012509Yeah. True. I don't know what to say to that. Well, it depends on who at Valve reviews your submission. It's an opaque and arbitrary process, so if Mary reviews your game then it's probably not getting through. And that there is no possibility to appeal the decision, despite you potentially having done nothing wrong, I think that's wrong and abusive.
>>739007263>I'm Gabe and I'm made of sugar
>>739012532Americans are insane
>>739012518>>739012528only jp games are worth paying for and valve is blocking their release on steam anyway, what does it matter?
>>739012463Learn to differentiate fantasy fictional shit from real life spastic retardSomeone gooning it to some shitty game or art of something you don't approve of literally won't harm anybodyCope and seethe
>>739012530>Social media slop is literal bloat nobody cares aboutOk. Whatever helps you cope with your failed store
>>739012586Just block skin trading entirely nigga.
>>739012587>It's an opaque and arbitrary processIf your game is about kid fucking you might have a problem getting on steam. There I cleared it up for you.
>>739005001Steam doesnt enforce games to have drm. Its up to the dev if they want it or not. Even epic sells games with DRM on it. Only Gog doesn't as far as im aware but it sucks.
>>739012563>literally a button to edit preferences in his own screenshotyou're not very clever are you?
>>739012643Hi Tim Sweeney
>>739012632OK then maybe you should host the pedo games for others to download since you are so brave.
>>739012531Browser games can be saved locally, your monopoly company refuses to support SWF files. Small indie publisher itchio can do it, a billion dollar company can’t?
>>739005001Give me an example or two of an anti-competitive practice steam undertakes.As far as i can tell they're the most popular because they're the best, and as a result have achieved a critical mass of customers that are highly loyal.
>>739012606I buy plenty of japanese games off steam. Just recently bought Pragmata. What the fuck are you going on about you retard?
>>739012643>just block something because a kid can hurt themselves doing ithow old are you?
>>739012713SWF is a dead format, and besides there are .exe wrappers for them
>>739012587>And that there is no possibility to appeal the decision, despite you potentially having done nothing wrong, I think that's wrong and abusive.Chaos Head appealed and won. Give it up.
>>739004685What game would you get?
>>739012563Saying I hate trannies is gonna get you a warning
>>739012681You just believe they created an all viewing report. There’s no evidence that it’s all the reviews on the game because it gets deleted by Valve in the process. Know how censorship works asshole.
you know steamgoyim are a cult when they care more about their nft casino being insulted than whole banwaves unlawfully taking down dozens of games because israel demands it
>>739012773Valve also said they would never do another appeal after that one, are you retarded?
>>739010649NOT LIKE THAT
>>739012927What convinces a gay mulatto like you to go online and be retarded? Is it lack of cock or lack of father figure?
>>739012893so you have a schizotheory without an inkling of proof just because you're desperate to cope with the most disingenuous and bad faith seethe about steam?
>>739012893>because it gets deleted by Valve in the process.got proof?
>>739012643Why don't you monitor what your hell issue is doing? Take care of your children, or someone else will.
>>739012730They illegally market games higher on EU and were caught.They stole patent game controller and sold it for profit.They are the bad guys.
>>739012927>unlawfulyIt's amazing how it's always foreigners that seem to be experts on US law. Stores reserve the right to not sell something, just like you can't say "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" on private property (like a moderated game server) and be immune to bans.
>>739007996>Valve can brick your hardwareNo they can't, you clueless idiot.
>>739012773Here's the thing, officially there is no appeal avenue and Steamworks policy even states that you may not appeal a decision. It took the Chaos Head people having to mobilize their existing sizable fan base to throw a fit and get media attention on the corruption going on at Valve in that particular instance. Good for them, but it screws over smaller developers and IPs that don't yet have as much brand recognition.
>>739013062Now show me the good guys.
>>739013016>>739013025Yes we do: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/steam-is-deleting-negative-reviews-for-suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league.1666785/
Clearly, the solution is to just ban non-Americans from the internet.
>>739013157did you click what you posted?
>>739012773>>739013114And that the scandal even happened in the first place to me is indicative of abuse.
>>739013157>Update: Users have been lying as SteamDeb shows there were never 7000 negative reviews.>first fucking lineVery sloppy. Fucking embarrassing.
>>739013062what the fuckthats scummy
>>739013157lmao fucking retard
>>739013062>Pooropenot my problem
>>739013062you retarded idiot, this is preventing people from faking being from poorer countries so they can get games for cheaperwould you rather they charge everyone a direct fucking currency conversion rate?
>>739013121You and me, the consumers, doing what is right by supporting what we believe in with our wallets.
>>739013114>>739013216The chaos head scandal happened because it had schoolkids showing off their underwear. You left that part out>appealed and won anyway
Anyone with a favorable opinion of steam should be taken out and shot.
>>739013379>would you rather they charge everyone a direct fucking currency conversion rate?Yes. Go be poor somewhere else.
>>739013381so where do you get your games?
>>739013398I didn't know that either. Actually it's getting harder to defend these games.
>>739013121Hoyoverse a Chinese game company giving money to help students: https://gameworldobserver.com/2021/07/13/mihoyo-and-chinese-youth-development-foundation-launch-public-welfare-project-and-build-new-school-buildingValve Corporation never once gave money to anyone. VR fund was a scam that my fellow developers fell victim.
>>739013473Steam. Lol
>>739013516>ChineseI can disregard all of that. They have concentration camps and ran over students with tanks.
>>739013213>>739013248>>739013304>Users =\= SteamKnow the difference anon
>>739013516>chineseYou cant even call this bait anymore, its just a rock
>>739013516>arguing that the chink gachaslop coomer game dev is more ethicalahahahaha holy fuck
>>739013594>valve deleted reviews that never fucking existed to begin withjust give it up faggot
>>739013638You have no proof either, that’s the definition of monopoly censorship
>>739013704you fucking moron, steamdb is proofdo you even know what they are, you pathetic phoneposting consolecuck?stop fucking digging your grave and just give up
>>739012396kek nice one
>>739013704>you have no proof that this thing that didn't exist, didn't existbased retard
>>739013704>You have no proof either>SteamDeb shows there were never 7000 negative reviews.You've completely destroyed your argument. Try something else, there's no salvaging this one now
>>739013704>prove a thing which doesnt exist existsYou are the one claiming that valve did something. The burden of proof is on you
>>739013704>Post proof that disproves his claim>'Y-you have no proof"I hope you're not a lawyer.
>>739013570America “arrested” a kid, live on TV. You people are no better.>>739013604>>739013635At least they have schools, you Americans are losing your educational system. Brainrot exists only in America, not anywhere else.
>>739005001>lead by a multi billionaire.better that than led by multiple billionaires sitting on a Board that is solely beholden to making the shareholders more money than last year.
>>739012396Is this /Rome/?
>privately held company provides an unmatched, quality service to its costumers and in turn reaps the reward it deserves>this is a scathing issue to some people out there
>>739013836We're better because we're the country that matters. Keep playing Wuzkangz, Chang.
>>739010505spelling mistake AND the faggot triple dot?my my are we a little bit mad anon?
>>739013923A lot of people, including but especially Jewish ones, do not succeed unless they successfully seize the reins of society. This is their actual "skill." It's not actual competition, nor anything related to producing and offering a product, but rather figuring out how to analyze and game a system so that only their mediocrity and stagnation remains while swiftly stomping out any blossoming enterprise or individual that rivals them.
>>739013760>>739013785>>739013787>>739013801>>739013820Actually, SteamDB is from Steam severs who control the API and Valve refuses to let SteamSpy count how many owners a game has on release and current. They also control the API for the scam gambling sites.
>>739012278Functional server infrastructure. Fun fact, did you know that the EGS and Fortnite use the same servers? So should there ever possibly a time where Fortnite becomes overcrowded with players due to some event or whatever, EGS becomes almost unusable?
>>739014078steamdb scrapes steam data you fucking idiot
>>739012713>your monopoly company refuses to support SWF files.Flash as a browser plugin has been officially dead and unmaintained for years, retard. There's a reason they renamed it to Animate (before killing it again).
If the government knew anything about video games they would have broken Steam apart like AT&T years ago.
>>739004685I don't know why they're doing this in the first placeWhat does having Steam be labeled as a monopoly achieve??>heheh, now everyone has to come to MY digital storefront to buy MY video games exclusively from MY store!>Game gets 1/4 of the sales it would on Steam because the platform is dogshit>wtf, sorry shareholders, we'll make up for declining sales by using more AI
>>739005000
>>739014201Yes, that Valve controls who owns the API and can shut down SteamDB because they themselves use the API.>Steam DashBoard is an independent platform. We are not affiliated with, endorsed by, or connected to Valve Corporation or Steam. Our data comes from public APIs and our own monitoring systemshttps://www.steamdb.com/en/about
>>739014378The fact that another store can exist next to steam proves its not a monopolyA monopoly is ONLY being able to buy at them, like nintendo or sony where no other alternative exists
but it is a monopoly thobeit
>>739014507Scraping means NOT using the API, fucktard weeb. They use both, which means their site includes data not provided by the API.
>>739014507they're not going to retroactively alter their fucking scraped data you moronwe're at the point where your own fucking source retracted the claims and you're still going because you have steam derangement syndromeyou have absolutely zero proof for everything you've ever said
>>739014507This is what we do to nerds like you on Steam.
>>739013062The price of games is up to the seller? They can sell it for 1 dollar or 100 dollars why do you think Steam has a say?
>>739014507Are you saying valve blackmailed steamdb to reduce review numbers now? Fucking lmao
>gacha image>dogshit postEverytime
>>739014509If anything, you people are supporting corporate America. Steam as a company has not contributed to the United States, has rich assholes, refused to listen to the customers, Valve has supported questionable practices and committed crimes in different parts of the world.Stop supporting Valve.
>>739014959>refused to listen to the customers>Steam just gets better and better with customer input???
>>739012713>your monopoly company refuses to support SWF fileshere's a neat trick, enter this into your web browser while steam is open:steam://install/92
>>739014959Not interested in goalpost moving but wonder what your stance is with nintendo or sony. How about I stop supporting them instead for being monopolies?
>>739014635>>739014649>>739014825You people only have claims now, SteamDB never claims they used bots to scrape data. You people created a lied that never existed, like always.
>>739014959>p-p-please stopno thanks, valve is the only one that actually caresno one else has come anywhere close with the things they're doing with linux, they're actively locking shit down in fact
>>739015018NINTENDO IS NOT A MONOPOLY THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS ERIC FUCK YOU ERIC FUCK YOU ERIC
>>739015030>You people only have claims now, you're the one that only has fucking claims, faggotthere is ZERO EVIDENCE ALL THE DERANGED SHIT YOU'RE SPOUTING, you're expecting people to believe you based on fucking nothing
>>739004820It's literally not. Market dominance =/= monopoly.
asking daddy gubbermint to break up the "big bad monopoly Steam" so they don't have to put up their own competitors with actual effort required while also turning around and insisting said government should ignore Stop Killing Games or gacha mechanics because they don't need to get involved and the industry can self-regulate lmao
>>739014992Where TF3, HL3, Portal 3, Left for Dead, return CSGO, bring back Artifact and release original games.Where anon, what do you have to say now!
>>739015127Oh its not? Can you show me where I can buy games on the switch 2 other than from nintendo?
>>739015193
>>739015050>I support Ecosystem like Apple toddlersFake gamer moment
>>739015191I was talking about Steam, not games only slavs care about.
>>739015232But those copies are provided by nintendo arent they? Thats still buying from nintendo
>>739015248>i am le hardcore because i prefer things more complicated for no gain
>become a manufacturer that makes bikes with circular wheels>every other manufacturer that pops up does something like making their wheels propitiatory, making them from concrete, using a square shape instead of circular>all of the other companies go under despite circle wheel bike company doing literally nothing to inhibit them>WTF THE CIRCLE WHEEL BIKE COMPANY IS A MONOPOLY THERES JUST NO WAY TO COMPETE THEY NEED BROKEN UP RIGHT NOWto this day anyone who says steam is a monopoly has never produced an argument that didnt sound like it came straight from tims asshole
>>739015143Then where is your evidence anon, stop screaming like a child and present your homework.
>>739015374you want me to prove a negative, fucking inaction? are you a child? where the fuck is yours, nigger?you've claimed steam is deleting reviews and your own fucking source retracted their claims
>>739015281If it's not published by nintendo and only has a game code, then no, nintendo didn't provide it or even make it.
>>739015193NTA and my info on this could be wrong but I think Limited Run publishes physical copies of games that are usually digital only.
>>739015275Then where is no maintenance Tuesday, where is 90% discount on games from 2012. Why do they keep allowing scammers to steal your personal information. SteamOS current version is not open source, Proton library aren’t being shared, Proton was so locked down to Steam that another person created it and it was better than the original.Anymore excuses anon
>>739014113steam has no multiplayer server shit for devs, its all p2p these days
>>739012471Why not just pirate the console games
>>739015741>the esl retard that doesn't actually use linux yet tries to act like an authority is back againpost your fastfetch
>>739004685Epic gives away free games all the time. And for everyone, not just one guy. God, Valve shills are insufferable.
>>739015809Oh no it’s that fastfetch fetish user. Plz don’t associate Linux users to him.
>>739015790I buy every console game to support companies that actually make games.I pirate every Steam game it's a parasite platform. Valve makes no games. None that matter anyway.
>>739015784Tying multiplayer servers to a storefront server is a terrible idea that results in the exact situation I pointed out and should never be done be any professional company worth their salt, that's what I'm trying to say
>>739015897you're not a linux user, esljeetdon't talk about things you don't understand
>>739004685dont even have to read the thread and i know that there will be a poster who>calls steam a dogshit platform with DRM, licenses etcetc>when pressed about it will make nonstatements about how it should be better>will never name a company that does a single thing better than steam>will offer no solutions to glutenous gabes ills hes casted on society>will refuse to acknowledge that PC gaming was fucking horrible for a long time with asinine and retarded DRM>doesnt realize that if steam went poof tomorrow then PC gaming as a whole would be absolutely fucked
>>739015310>all of the other companies go under despite circle wheel bike company doing literally nothing to inhibit themSteams competitors aren't even out of business. Epic, GoG, Amazon, EA, Ubistof connect, Sony, and Microsoft are all still around and still doing their thing. They're just doing it poorly.
>valve starts getting too much legitimate criticism for being a casino and fucking over jp devs>steamcattle instantly try make it about nintendonot a cult btw
>>739015281Nintendo doesn't manufacture and distribute every single game on their platform, anon. That's what 3rd party publishers are for.
>>739016084>i hate casinos but only when valve does itso why are you here, specifically crying about valve and not lobbying for the practice to be banned outright?
>>739015939>Steam being jews and making multiplayer be on the worst hosting option is a good thing actually.Do steamgoyim really?
Steam has things to criticize them for, but they are still doing more for me than other services except piracy.My favourite thing is whenever certain people criticize Steam for being a market leader while also defend Microsoft.
>>739016245>while also defend Microsoftgood morning sir
>>739016157>steam is the only relevant pc platform because they are the only ones allowing me to decorate my virtue signaling profile with tranny shit, who cares about other storefronts?>NO NOT LIKE THAT, AAAAIIIIIEEEEE
>>739016268Not an argument.Why criticize Valve for being a "monopoly" market leader while also allowing Microsoft to shit up the PC OS market scott free?
>>739016231>a hosting option that can get bogged down by people doing unrelated activities is good, actuallyAlso I want to point out that not even Valve does this. Steam's servers run separately from Valve's game servers.
>>739015018I for one want a Switch 2 not made by Nintendo.
>>739015741>Proton was so locked down to Steam that another person created it and it was better than the original.You don't know what you're talking about, tard.
>>739016339Steam could just make separate servers for MP hosting anon.But guess even the steam cattle can't even conceive an option that makes valve buy one less yacht a year.
>>739016306should casinos exist at all?
>>739016349theres a gorillion steam deck clones out by now nigga
>>739016463No, gambling is a sin.
>>739016334But there's no alternative to Windows 11.
Still not downloading EGS
>>739016463No, gambling is jew shit to destabilize societies.This is why it's good nintendo doesn't allow chinky gacha like genshit on their console btw.
>>739016549>>739016603and you think the best way of going after it is by crying about valve that gets at most 2% of the profit?greta thunberg style mental illness
>>739016587Oh but there is, much like Steam having alternatives.Just because those alternatives aren't popular doesn't mean they don't exist :^)Install Gentoo.
>>739012679Steam itself technically has DRM, it's just so insanely weak anyone can trivially crack it.
>>739016439Anon I think you're confused. I'm not trying to defend Valve not offering server hosting for 3rd parties. I'm just trying to explain that using the same server for two very massive yet distinct services is a stupid idea and that Epic are stupid for doing it.
>>739016334you can just install any flavor of troonix you want if you dont like microslop anonmeanwhile good fucking luck playing a pc game if valve banned the port before release and the jp dev decides a pc release its not worth the effort after that
>>739016654No thanks, I wanna be able to play video games
>>739004685I stopped using steam and have been buying on other platforms as an experiment and have yet to run into any real problems or annoyances.Steam is better than EGS, Xbox and the publisher laumchers, but only marginally so. GOG allowing me to own my games makes it the superior platform by far, it just lacks games.
>>739016587are you too stupid for linux?
>>739016647if valve is not seeing profits then surely nobody would be hurt by killing the marketplace and making everything untradeableglad we agree
>>739016743>it's Steam's fault if some coomer game dev doesn't wanna release his game somewhere else
>>739016603But Nintendo wanted Genshin on Switch?
>>739016783>GOG allowing me to own my gamesbut they don'tjust admit it's an installer fetish
>>739016692Steam does not have DRM. Steamworks is an optional DRM that Valve provides that is trvially easy to crack. It is possible to sell a DRM-free game on Steam without Steamworks.
>>739015928based retard
>>739016743>>739016759Oh I know about the pain of getting shit to run, trust me. To be fair, some of the games I do play are a pain in the ass to set up on modern windows as well, fucking GFWL bullshit.But the point I am making is that the same arguments you can make for Microsoft dominating the OS market is the same argument you can make for Steam, but one is something people accept and the other is bad?
>>739016837nigga if they really wanted it they would have actually pressured hoyo to release it, they didntif they wanted gacha but hoyo took a snoy deal for exclusivity or something they would have taken any of the gorillion clones like wuwa, they didnt
>>739016808you're no different than greta thunberg obsessing over co2 emissions coming from white countries
>>739016930>snoy deal for exclusivityit's on Xbox too
>>739010194Uhmn what game?
>>739016647No, the best way is for (You) to stop gambling. I'm not the retarded insisting on his pedantic autism.If we had I straight, we wouldn't need this shitshow of a thread. You'd know you should gamble and you'd know to not let your hypothetical child gamble either. You would have monitored his online activities and punish him for even playing a online shooter. Children under 16 should have no access to the internet.
>>739016880the thing is nobody likes microslop enough to actually properly defend them, at most you get people like me that begrudgingly run debloated w11 because theres no real better alternative that doesnt involve more time troubleshooting than playing fucking games, the ltsc versions exist you know?meanwhile steam has a cattle cult fanbase that defends them buying a full yacht company instead of actually doing anything pro-consumer
>>739005001>Monopoly means sole provider with no viable competitors>Steam has a 75% market shareLooks 25% short of being a monopoly to me.
>>739016980So is GTA6 but even sony acts like it's a PS5 exclusive.
>>739017039but i don't gamblei believe that valve shouldn't uniquely be deprived of getting free money from low iq individualseither it's all gone or none of it is gone and it's a matter of personal responsibility
>>739017041That's more on the consumerbase than the companies themselves, both Valve and Microsoft should be held to the same standard of "You are a market leader, do fucking better".
>>739017041>theres no real better alternative that doesnt involve more time troubleshootingso you don't even use linux
>>739017041At least Microsoft is a company with paid employees, linuxcorp lets random chinese people put exploits in compression libraries, and refuses to comply with ID verification (which will make linux illegal).
>>739017148>, both Valve and Microsoft should be held to the same standard of "You are a market leader, do fucking better".im literally agreeing on with you, fucking retard
>>739017217>At least Microsoft is a company with paid employeesyeah, nice paid employees you got there
>>739017224I know that, I'm just more using your posts as a general jumping off point to make my point absolutely clear. One gets away with it because people "begrudgingly" use it, the other is getting criticized despite there also being a group using it "begrudgingly" as well. Much smaller mind you and with more cultists, but one seems to catch a lot less flak for it despite grumbles.My original point was also a shot a Tim Sweeny as well for crying about Valve but doing nothing to help Linux and calling it the equivalent of "Moving to Canada during an election".
>>739017041You're 10 times a worse human being for giving up and using shit products cuz convenience. True monopolies love you.
>>739017217>and refuses to comply with ID verification This is a good thing, fuck that noise so much. But realistically, how could you have it work with a FOSS system? What stops someone on their own Linux install ripping that shit out without making that aspect proprietary?
>>739017148>>739017224If you have a monopoly, you can laugh in people's faces. When people have no alternatives companies can do whatever they want with them. Microslut and Vulva have zero incentives to do better as market leaders.
>>739017426Using the words of the steamgoyim, maybe the alternatives should improve instead of being entitled to me using them.I'm not paying micrroslop for windows either, I have pirated it since XP.
>>739017523It is kinda funny how Valve has helped with the microsoft alternative, it would be funny if MS helped on the Valve alternative.
It is the year Anno Domini MMXXVI and Valve's Jewish blood enemies still cannot come up with a viable alternative to it that isn't a complete downgrade, other than piracy.
>>739004685>Provides a functioning UINo it doesn't. Steam uses electron slop for its UI and they forgot to do basic things like asynchronous image loading, so there's a software bottleneck for things like browsing through large libraries because of small things like icons.
>>739017135Exploiting retards is also bad, no one should do it.
>>739017552but linux is already betterwindows is complete jeetware that uses more resources to do less
>>739017552You just leave it unactivated, or do you use one of those cracking softwares that technically counts as malware? If so, which one? I'm too scared too steal a copy from my work.
>have a shit platform>competitors keep making shittier platforms>only platform that's better is DRM-free and isn't well known for platforming modern games so it gives publishers the ick>winThe fact that it's been like this for like a decade at this point despite all the crying about Steam having a monopoly just goes to show how pathetic the gaming industry is. All these massive publishers that have tried to run their own storefronts and none of them have even done the bare minimum.
>>739017707Just to chime in here: that's more of a DirectX12 vs Vulkan issue. The fact that you wouldn't control for this.....kinda embarrassing for you bro............
>>739017707let us know when this meme works on actual video cards.
>>739017829GOG Galaxy and Ubisoft Connect actually are far better launchers than Steam these days, when it comes to just focusing on getting you your games and into them. It's just that this is also usually the point where the Steam fanboys go from "no one else does the functional stuff better" to "gimme all the bloated bells and whistles that don't even work properly half the time"
>>739017842are you retarded?both are running the directx12 version, linux is translating directx calls into vulkan and it performs better because it's not fucking jeetware that wastes resources on nothing>>739017856such as?
>>739017829That platform isn't better. It has generally out of date copies of games and a shitty CDN that only seems fast for third worlders. It's also a more cumbersome install method.
>>739017707Now show the numbers on a 5090.
>>739005001>they wasthey was monopolies and sheet
>>739017589I'm not sure about that. I was using Windows 8.1 and never updated to 10 (even when they were offering free upgrades). Then, Valve forced me to upgrade to Windows 10 because they stopped supporting 8.1 and patched all the workarounds people kept posting online. So I had to buy a Windows 10 license just to keep using Steam.What a shit company, to be honest.
>>739008510hell yeah, playnite is the best one
>>739018110sure, as soon as nvidia steps up and works on their drivers
>>739018029>translating directx calls into vulkanYeah, this works better for AMD cards than straight DirectX. You're not controlling for it.
>>739018157Yeah that part in of itself is shitty, but in an ironic cosmic way, forcing people to move away from the... less shit Windows versions may have helped in people at least giving alternatives a go.
>>739018175Well, I'll just use Windows.
Last time i checked steam was shit. It's a worse experience than using GGn. Running steam without a strict apparmor profile (or other effective containment measures) is a very bad idea. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671
>>739018254because nvidia wants you to be cattle
>>739018256>2015I'm not a linux fat, but COME ON. That's older than most linux users.
>>739008976he's probably thinking of the 100s of million dollars spent giving away games for free, the launcher could have been made by a bootcamp for 40+ women who's never programmed before over a weekend
>>739018185you fucking retard, translating directx calls to vulkan is more fucking work than natively running directx
>>739018309Moo. I'd rather have a better GPU and overall experience than have a vastly inferior GPU that performs slightly better on FatOS than Windows.
>>739018389>i'd rather be cattle if it means i get a shiny cowbell
>>739010194E
>>739018323Would you trust someone inside your home because it was 11 years ago since he last stole from you or destroyed your property?
>>739018424Why are you on /v/ if fighting a revolution is more important than playing games? There are other boards for revolutionaries, like >>>/pol/ and >>>/lgbt/
>>739018498>why do you worry about what goes into your food when you could just be eating?
>>739010948>pedo gameevery time
>>739018565True story. I'm drinking Coke with HFCS right now.
>>739018485If it was an honest mistake, I would trust him more than a person who was acting with genuine malice (every competitor).
>>739018621so you're self admitted cattlewhy do you need to state your opinion again when it doesn't matter?
>>739005001If it's that so easy, why did tim failed despite his vbucks infinite money glitch ? Why did ea failed ?
>>739018662While not a direct competitor as of now i am not aware of GOG ever having screwed up like that. There is also the option of not using any of those platforms. GGn has a better trackrecord when it comes to vetting their stuff than steam. I for sure would not give someone who accidentally destroyed my property a second chance.
>>739007483>And what happens when they copy Steam, improve upon it through investing money But nobody ever tried that ?Epic took 3 years to add a basket, uplay show you ads in you library, gog galaxy fail 1/2 time you try to use it...
>>739018040Double clicking twice, selecting your directory, and hitting install is barely more "cumbersome" that clicking install. But I will accede that zoomers are now scared of fucking exe files and installation wizards these days.
>>739006347But you can sell you game on dlsite, itch.io, your own website ....
>>739013062How is that anti consumer or valve's fault? That's on the distributor for not informing that the key is geo-locked and selling it to any random nigga.
>>739004980delete thispeople aren't ready for it
>>739007483>The only way to actually compete with Steam would be to already be rich, except with current costs you'd have to be a billionaire to begin with and then you'd bleed money, all in the hopes that both users and games migrate over.>If you genuinely think it's possible, with all the money in the world to create a Steam alternative, you don't understand business at all.But Epic guy was rich, he made his own platform, with his own infrastructure, and decided at every point in time to make worse decisions than Steam and give an inferior product, by design.Sorry but it is possible, a couple billions is nothing these days. And you have a perfect example of someone doing that, and deciding actively to give you less features than steam.Steam is a monopoly but not because of what you said, but because they offer a good product in an environment were people offers you bad products by choice. The fact it is a monopoly has little to do with steam and more with the choices of others.
>>739018865>While not a direct competitor as of now i am not aware of GOG ever having screwed up like that.well now you havehttp://mantis.gog.com/view.php?id=4214
>>739012278Controller support (easy to rebind anything)Free vr support for any headsetWorkshopFree cloud save and auto sync with the deck, or any computer
>>739010194Probably Death Stranding 2
>>739005001the other companies suing steam could literally all just do what steam does, provide a good service, and its possible they'd all get loyal customers just like steamthe issue is they don't want to do that, they would rather make everything worse by killing steam and forcing you to use their lackluster services instead
>>739018865GOG is fine but not a proper Steam substitute.>GGn has a better trackrecord when it comes to vetting their stuff than steam. I really, really don't want to bother with private trackers again. >I for sure would not give someone who accidentally destroyed my property a second chance.That github issue is from back when the Steam Linux client was novel. Shell scripting is rife with pitfalls so I gave them the BOTD. Thus far their Linux client hasn't given me any issues and Just Werks how I expect it to. No other commercial option even comes close.Their intentionally bad choices, like switching to a full webshit desktop client, are much worse.
Kinda like deliberately downloading malware to see if the programmer considered linux, I wish real competition exists against steam cuz I wanna see if some game company out there actually considers the customer. Valve does "enough", and even that is too much for the likes of EA, Epic, and Amazon, who are infinitely more rich.
every company would be like this if it wasn't for private equity cancer killing the capitalism that gave us 90s and early 00s
>>739019770lmao no the game industry is doing it of its own volition
>>739010782If you don't like it, buy literally any other controller.
>>739019817private equity backpedaled but there's momentum and they don't plan on giving it up completely they will torture you with social changes during dem presidency and erode your standard of living during republican presidency
>>739017217>which will make linux illegalAnd I should care because...? I don't worship the state like you.
>>739012278Literally reviews>b-butVERY related to buying games because I get to know if it's actually good.
>>739004685>easy refunds
>>739018185Why should he control for it? There's no dx12 to vulkan on windows while it's the standard on Linux.
>>739005839Put me in the screen cap since people responded to this old ass image made by a retard
>>739017762>or do you use one of those cracking softwares that technically counts as malware?nigger are you a fucking fourth worlder or something? how are you this tech illiterate? just use the KMS activation script, it's literally like 2 cmd command lines and you activate both windows and MS office permanently
>>739019982Unironically no longer a positive for steam when they are removing rightful bad reviews as "offtopic review bombing" because people are noticing the wokeslop DEI hires too hard.
>>739017476>What stops someone on their own Linux install ripping that shit out without making that aspect proprietary?Nothing. Companies will only comply because they want federal/state gibs, most distros will simply not care.
>>739020180>no longer a positive for steam when they are removing rightful bad reviewsstop repeating this esljeet, you still haven't proven it's a thing
>>739020287>unironically defending steam sweeping bad reviews over anita under the rugholy fucking shit just when i thought steam cattle couldn't sink any lower
>>739020335I'm demanding proofwhich you can't produce
>every game company fucks you in the ass>valve fucks you in the ass slightly less hard>people suck their cock for thisthis will never not be funny to me
>>739020006nigger why didn't you refund that shit sooner?why did it took you more than two weeks to go "yeah I don't like this videogame"?
>>739020405bruhdder, literally just look at the slay the spire 2 reviews page
>>739020481To be fair slay the spire 2 took 2 months for people to notice the rugpull due to people acting like they still live in a non-izzat high trust society and expected the devs to not have hired a literal kike industry plant.
>>739018756I live in the only country that matters drinking the best soda ever created. You can not compare to me.
>>739020517so where's the proof? post it
>>739020481>30% is fair. it's industry standard.>30 day money back guarentee? what the fuck dude?
>>739020481the game is ran by discord greif teams and the devs know this and refuse to do anything about it. you cant figure that out right away as a new player.
>>739018372>translating directx calls to vulkan is more fucking work than natively running directxDuh, but that work is then more efficient for AMD cards to handle. It's not about there being more work, it depends on how fast you can do it. Ironically, this isn't a new concept to anyone that did use Linux or otherwise dual-boot, especially when it came to a running lot of releases in the early 2010s (those that know will agree), but then you shills would actually have to be familiar with Linux and actually play video games to understand these concepts, and to you it's just another notch deeper on Gaben's cock that you'll deepthroat to without actually using or understanding it.
>>739020712but you can't return opened physical video gamesnintendo doesn't offer any digital refunds and sony only does so if you haven't downloaded it
>>739020712>refund policy clearly states "we only refund games within 14 days of purchase and if you have played them for less than 2 hours">retarded dummy plays videogame he doesn't like for more than two hours and keeps it in his steam library for more than two weeks>"WHAT THE FUCK WHY CAN'T I GET A REFUND!" says the retarded dummy
>>739020975retardthe gains there come from linux not being bloated, being more efficient and having much better memory managementif linux could run directx natively it would be faster than doing a directx to vulkan translation
>>739021020>nintendo doesn't offer any digital refundsThey do during special circumstances like when dispatch devs self-censored and technically counted as false advertising, thus they allowed mass refunds.
>>739021309You can just run an LTSC version of windows for even better results anon, it's literally the officially released non-bloat version of windows and doesn't even have edge let alone goypilot preinstalled last I checked.
>>739021458Windows' performance issues is because of fundamental architectural defects, and these are present in every version of the OS.There honestly just isn't a good reason for Proton to have superior performance, ever. Only being very slightly worse would have been an adequate result, the fact that Linux sometimes WINS in benchmarks is just hilarious.
used games and licenses should always be able to be sold/traded/transferred.>"y-you're poor!"not an argument.>think of the shareholders and publishers! who will pay for their next yacht??not an argument.>no digital storefront allows this so it's okay!not an argument.
>>739021309Said like a true ignoramus. Then again, you also use AMD, so that tracks.
>>739004685The real reason is that Steam does not allow ads in games on their platform.
>>739021458Not that nigger but I'm running win 10 ltsc iot enterprise and shit is getting supported until 2032 or something like that. I'm good on win 11 until that at the least. Maybe Linux won't be garbage for gaming until then and I'll seriously consider switching
>>739021458>You can just run an LTSC version of windows for even better results anon????
>>739021675Windows 11 is just 10.1 with AI slop on top.And the LTSC versions remove the AI slop, so W11 LTSC is pretty much just 10.1 LTSC.Which means you have nothing to worry about for a long ass time.The only real difference is a shittier start menu, but that has been tradition on every new windows since XP at this point and thankfully launchers like playnite fix this problem.
>>739009249You first need to buy Playstation 5 DRM to play the game on. Your Nintendo DRM is not compatible.
>>739021458here's anotherno fucking difference at all
>>739021665but it's objectively true you dumb niggerlook up dcmemg
>>739007874the only game that I like outright know was rejected was Horses which while it probably didn't deserve to be rejected was also very clearly trying to get itself rejected without getting cancelled for "problematic media". They knew 100% what they were doing and honestly while I think the entire team are huge pieces of shit, they played the game perfectly and got a loyal fanbase.
>>739021605point me to a single instance of digital licenses being resellable to prove it's a reliable business model that won't actually rape the market out of existence
>>739004820>better customer service is somehow a monopolyYou shills are so retarded and shows how desperate corporate kikes are getting outdone by valve
Doesn't a monopoly require intent from a company to undermine competition through removing them from the market directly, like buying them out?
>>739004685>a free game is all PCtroons need to swallow gabe's dick
>>739010756so you are seething because steam ISNT a designated actor because its still privately owned and your overlords can't get your claws in it?makes sense.
>>739022337Technically, a monopoly only needs one criteria of being the sole, or outright dominant force, of a good or service. Monopolies themselves that occur naturally and through free market choice aren't inherently evil, but have the potential to do so. Regardless, Steam does not fit the definition.
>>739022383you're not the one to talk, you consolecucks swallow dicks regardless since you don't own your console
>>739004980/thread
>>739021128the topic of discussion is "easy refunds" you insufferable cock gobbling faggot. that is a ridiculous refund policy. keep coping and sucking that dick to think otherwise.
>>739022557Reminder when NoA started banning JP games, "tendies" made a fuzz so big that literal glowniggers had to get involved to hijack or stop the rainfall 2 movement.And even then the hijacking failed because people still managed to get a lot of complaints directly to JP devs, including but not limited to showing many companies how much trannylators were raping the releases and how much of that was hidden intentionally by platforms like twitter with a digital firewall and westoid branches stopping corporate complaints.This has resulted in a lot of westoid mass layoffs in the JP industry, with the most recent one being square doing yet another purge of westoids like last week.Also said tendies managed to get NoJ to cut off gaijin goycards entirely around april 2024 instead of complying with the payment kike demands of taking down the games.Meanwhile valve cattle outright celebrates when the censorship kike cock is rammed up their asses.
>>739022327>better customer service>>739021128>the better customer service in question
>>739023001Reminder that when physical started restricting people's freedom on pc people started dropping it and fucking killed it and now the standard for DRM is being removed in 30 seconds Meanwhile you consolecut accept horrendous, draconian and heavily enforced DRM and act like you have any dignity
>>739023125Yes, better customer service >Except as authorized by Nintendo or as required by applicable law, all payments that you make through the Nintendo Account services (including pre-purchases and subscription payments) are final and non-refundable.
>>739021128you sound like one of those "she was 17 years 364 days old you sick fuck!" type of faggots.
>>739023130>Meanwhile you consolecut accept horrendous, draconian and heavily enforced DRM and act like you have any dignityyou already got BTFO countless times this week alone over picrel tho, if you don't want an online ban just dont be a pirateniggerand if you are a piratenigger then you already accept you are barred off online, this is the case for pirated copies of PC games too by the way, the ones that allow you to connect to online servers with pirated copies are either an exploit or pretty much devs being desperate for players and intentionally not patching that out as they should
>>739023189>muh nintendoi dont care what other faggots are doing. 14 days 2 hours (which can be just sitting on the title screen in the background) is retarded, and no amount of corporate cock sucking will ever make this a "good customer service policy"
>>739005839https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/banned/image/roYUrohTBXK-tRqZmFvwLg/Hmm
>>739023252>It's okay to have draconian restrictions because I'm a cuck that will follow those restrictions Reminder that you tendies have it so bad that you got sold 20 year old pokemon games for $20 that brazillians played with more functionality 10 years ago for free on their androids
>>739023252Not him, but why are you defending DRM? lolI mean you can do that if you want, but calling someone else cattle while defending DRM is a pretty funny.
>>739004685>Steam: Provides a functioning UI, easy refunds, and free games for minor inconveniences.whoa, cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>739004685LIZ LOVE!
>>739004685Why does Steam and Valve in general attract so many seething mossad glowies?
Having a monopoly is perfectly legal as long as you don't abuse that position to stifle competition.
>>739023369>It's not a good policy because I pissed it away
>>739023417Are you still ignoring it can connect to pokemon home and had all the meme event-locked stuff reworked to be proper post-game content?
>>739023520It's console fanboys, they've engaged in console wars for decades now but competition between consoles is pretty much non-existent so they need another target.
>>739023216you some kinda sicko?
>>739023602So worse than a romhack?
>>739023520Because Valve isn't publicly traded.
>>739023427banning you from online servers for being a piratenigger is not DRMmercy to criminals is cruelty to paying costumersif you are going to be a piratenigger accept you will have to do so alone or through LAN/p2p play
>>739023639Romhacks can't connect to pokemon home anon.
>>739023427Why does valve ban for using third party tools to spawn a gorillion copies of expensive CSGO casino chips in my inventory? This is literally draconian DRM.
>>739004820You're more than welcome to start an online video game store like Steam and provide a better deal than them to get customers to use your product over theirs.
>>739023780i would rather buy games on dlsite and the jp nintendo eshop thothey provide a better service already like, you know, actually selling me the games i want and not bending over to westoid payment processors without even pretending to resist?they are also not wasting gorillions buying yacht companies instead of making games or providing a better service
>>739007874women are mad because their dried up womb isn't wanted past prime age lol
>>739022963It's easy to get refunds if you're not slow in the mind, next time decide try deciding a little earlier if you like a videogame or not before considering a refund.
>>739023520Valve has "information" and "control" beyond your understanding.I could assure you if Blackrock and co. COULD acquire it they would. And things would be very, very, very different.For starters Steam practically decides what our children are allowed to see and play.
>>739023880Which is why you don't get blocked from seeing non-safe-horny games on dlsite without a VPN, right? To say nothing of red sony, they really stand up for games.
>>739023664That's literally exactly what it is. No mental gymnastics are gonna fix it. You could say the exact same thing regardless of what form the DRM takes.>>739023740That's anti-cheat not DRM. DRM would prevent you from using the software without a valid license. Are you doing this with a licensed or unlicensed copy? If license copy can do this without getting banned it is DRM, if both licensed and unlicened copies get banned it's not.
>>739024017somehow buying from dlsite while larping as a jp user is less of a hassle than troonix loland if the eroge is big enough they still do physical releases you can just import with proxy resellers
>>739023687So? The only point of transferring pokemon is for comp shitYou're still getting a worse game with less functionality since it's stuck being vanilla
>>739024220>just get arrested brolmao
>>739024207>DRM would prevent you from using the software without a valid license.You are aware even without a modchip you can give zero fucks about online bans and continue playing offline on your switch, right?
>>739023593>it's a good policy because i love the taste of gaben's dick
>>739023664>piratenigger Installing a mod to make the game more interesting and replayable is fucking piracy now?Wanting to own your hardware by having access to a file manager is piracy now?Because that's what'd get you banned
>>739023567whoops
>>739024290"Just don't use this perfectly normal functionality of your device". What kind of wacky argument is that? What's next, you're gonna tell me that I shouldn't be able to use that functionality without paying?
>>739008513This image was made when silksong was making it's rounds when it came out.It's purely just a "WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT NEW GAME" option
>>739024363>>739024440>Still moving the goalposts further and further once he keeps getting BTFO.You're aware with a modchip you can mod switch 1 games on the real hardware, right?And through retroarch all iso hardmods also work on the switch 1.
>>739024306>Buy milk>Milk says you should consume it before the best before date and to store it in a cold place>Leave the milk out in the sun and open it a week after the best before date>WTF IT'S SPOILED AND TURNED INTO A NASTY VERSION OF COTTAGE CHEESE??? WHY DID THEY SELL THIS MILK TO ME!???
>>739011669There is plenty of porn on steam, the issue is retarded jannies removing anime games only. It is targeted and it has been documented.
>>739024484>food analogy>expiry date food analogyguessing valve is already priming their cattle to accept temporary renting like ziony is
>>739024508Can I buy picrel on steam yet?Also why the fuck would I give money to a yacht company that has actively ignored a janny fucking over the games from the only country making good games for over a decade?
>>739023943>it's easy to get refunds if you refund the game immediatelypcbros are insufferable faggots. if it was any other company you would admit that it is a shit refund policy.
>>739024464How are you "BTFO"ing me? You're literally just defending DRM and trying to do mental gymnastics about how DRM isn't actually a big deal. I don't care whether it's a big deal or not, I was never concerned with how much impacts you. I pointed out that you're defending it like a good corporate slave while having the audacity to accuse others of doing the same.
>>739013974lol copium
>>739024464>Modchipso you had to wait years for them to make that, need to have some knowhow to install it and you're violating the Nintendo agreement that permanently carves your online functionality awayAnd you're comparing that to an officially sanctioned pc functionality that pretty much anyone can do within minutes of getting the game that only requires you to click a few things?And you think that's comparable?
>>739014959Why would I support demon worshiping pedophiles?
>>739024525But you're renting on your tendie consoleSays it right there >>739023130, revocable, even physical
>>739024484>buy milk>notice it is expired when you get home>try to refund it the next time you get groceries>"you didnt immediately drive back to the store for a refund, so you dont get one"fixed that for you
>>739024594>immediatelybro you have two full weeks to play the gamethey wont let you get a refund if you play for more than two hours AND have the game for more than two weeks
>>739024759But that's console digital refunds With pc you're allowed to open the milk and taste it and still get the refund if you're not a lazy nigger
>>739024787if valve truly had the great customer service all the drones claim they have, they would have made an exception to their policy given the reason that the developers are willfully negligent towards greifers. i explained this, they didnt care, and all the drones continue to ignore this point, instead focusing only on time played and autistic adherance to corporate policy.
>>739016385Someone made a better version, LTT confirmed it.
>>739024928He's right, you don't know what you're talking about. Proton isn't locked down to Steam any more than Proton-GE is. Both are launched through the same mechanism.
>>739023125>valve is bad cause the customer is retardedWhat?
>>739024928>LTT confirmed it.You're brown
>>739025050>You don’t need Steam to use ProtonYou need Steam as stated by Valve>You don’t need Steam to use Proton-GE YOuNeeDiTWhich one is it anon
>>739025079>bro you didnt look up this strict policy before buying a game? youre a retard!i have never once considered refunding anything in my life because im not a poorfag and it is a waste of my time, this was just out of principle. if refunds were easy, it wouldnt have mattered. keep sucking that corporate dick faggot.
>>739024707you can't keep calling us that
>>739025169You don't need Steam to use either. I can run Proton Experimental from a bash script. I can also run Proton-GE from the same bash script.
>>739025259Why is Gabe hanging out with Ice Cube and Anthony Bourdain?
>>739025171>strict policy is when you can't be bothered to spend less than a minute on a refund within 2 weekslazy high time preference nigger
not one single drone addressed the fact that it was developer negligence which made me want a refund. just hurrr 2 weeks durrr 2 hours hurrdurrrrrrrr
>>739025169No, you don't, you Linux larper esljeetDon't talk about things you don't understand
>>739025345if i have to look it up, it's needlessly strict. again, easy refunds would have been "these devs let greifers run free" and good customer service would have been "yeah thats unacceptable, heres your money back". you faggots can keep dickriding policy all you want, i received mediocre service and no amount of cope will change that.
>>739025303>Creating liesNever change cultist. The Proton Github clearly says and was answered by the developers of Valve who are employed. All Proton related projects are locked into Steam.
>>739005291>Theres nothing stopping a competitor from doing everything steam doesfirst mover advantage
>>739025564False, you can have proton running outside of Steam within a single sudoPost fastfetch esljeet
>>739025564"$PROTON_PATH/proton" run "$GAME_PATH" $ARGUMENT"$PROTON_GE_PATH/proton" run "$GAME_PATH" $ARGUMENTWow that so massively different and I see how the first command requires Steam, this brown retard who has never used anything more complex than an iphone might be onto something.
>>739025560Have you tried asking again, you fucking idiot?Maybe you'd get a manual review instead of crying about being late to your refund because you're too fucking lazy to click a few things
>>739025736Why not just use Windows 11?
>>739004685There are well over a billion PC gamers. Steam at best is only 150 million. So no, not a monopoly, but as a portion of the PC base, it's larger than any individual console.
>>739025949Because it runs worse and wastes resources
>>739025949Why the fuck would I use something that is really painful and slow to use?
>>739025979>>739025997lincels seething
