>there will never be an ending to the Jensen trilogyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctJLyqHDp9s
wasn't there that mobile phone game
knowing how this shit has worked there'll be some belated reboot that will commercially flop
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>>739021351>be happy>this thread>no longer happy
Would it even really be a satisfying end? We know he doesn't stop the Illuminati and Bob Page at all because its a prequel. So he'd do some things that ultimately don't matter due to having to tie in to DE1.
>>739021351He's frozen by illuminati in a box, what do you expect?https://youtu.be/TAqZb52sgpU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyn7ANbApO4>jensen, youre a clone
>>739021351Would just be woke slop if it was made now.
>>739021351He never asked for a trilogy
>>739021351If there is any modicum of justice in this world, all of Embracer's executives will die of cancer. Jensen's arc not getting a trilogy hits me harder than us never getting a Dead Space 4.
as much as i want it, i cant deny it will be like this >>739022657 if MD was anything to go by.
if still pissed off London wasnt a second hub in MDPrague was fantastic, I just wanted a bit more of the game
>>739022120The Nu-Dude Sex series has enough retcons to be its own alternative universe, related to the original only by name.
>>739022953Eidos Montreal always had a serious problem with biting way more than they could chew. Montreal was supposed to be an amazing hub in Human Revolution, but that got cut due to budget constraints. Same thing happened to London in Mankind Divided.
>>739022983Yeah, but still, they do a great job of making the conspiracy theories sound incredibly plausible, actually they're way better at this than even Alex Jones. They even predicted by a few months liberal-leaning media monopolies calling political bloggers and conspiracy theorists as information terrorists.
>>739023017HR was supposed to have Upper Hengsha, Montreal AND London. In the tie in book, Namir lived in London and the original trailers had Adam fighting Barrett in the docks at China, which is basically when the game ends. So it was supposed to be a much, much bigger game.
>>739022692Underrated post.
>>739023112Yeah, good point. I had forgotten about this.
>>739023112Also India. They have some concept art there and the FEMA camp chatter mentions shipping out to some place in India whose name I forgot. My guess is the original script had Adam follow them to India and find out about the hacker there. They cut out that part and instead had Barrett conveniently tell Adam everything rather than him actually investigating.
The finale was probably going to be discovering Megan and BOB PAGE had used his genetic template to create the Dentons. And also he was himself a clone while the REAL Adam Jensen had become a terrorist warlord in Africa.
>>739023330I don't doubt India. I meant to say that Upper Hengsha, Montreal and London were going to be hubs. India may have been a level.
>>739023426>the REAL Adam Jensen had become a terrorist warlord in Africa.His corpse is inside the Versalife vault within the Palisade bank. The current Jensen is an MK-Ultra reprogrammed assassin to infiltrate the Juggernaut Collective and destroy it from the inside. They used a man with a similar build to the real Adam, modified his face with plastic surgery and his genes with the CRISPR technique to implant him with the genes developed in the Black Helix laboratories that allow him to be immune to Darrow's Deficiency Syndrome, AKA, Augmentation Rejection Syndrome. The current Adam has no idea about this whatsoever. The final Jensen Deus Ex game would be a tragic ending due to this.
>>739023771I loved that sidequest in MD where they explore implanted memories. Also the convo with Eliza and Sarif hints at this stuff well.
>>739021351The ending would reveal that MD is Walton Simons, but he would upload the “Jensen” identity into a dying Eliza to create Daedalus. He would also echo Hugh Darrow’s comment about feeling like Daedalus watching helplessly as it all falls apart.
https://youtu.be/gC17lK3GZMUFeels like a good time to replay the series
>>739024254Yeah, Eliza literally does not recognize Adam.
>>739021351It's for the best. MD was already a notch down from HR, a sign eidos montreal was starting to slip. A third game released in 2019 or 2020 would've been garbage.
>>739025914The only problem with MD was that it was too short and had one hub. Everything else was a straight improvement. Its one of the best modern “immersive sims”
>Try to play mankind divided twice years apartHard crashes to desktop within the first few hours both timesShit sucks.
>>739025914MD is only act 1 of an interesting game, it just fucking stops because of poor business decisions
>>739021351As long as Elias Toufexis is alive there's still hope.
>>739021531That's where that awful AI remaster comes in. It was Embracer trying to gauge the reaction of whether they would go ahead with the IP again.
>>739022120I recall the Illuminati did fall apart at some point near Jensen's timeline. Maybe the prequel will end with Jensen tearing the group apart while unknowingly allowing MJ12 to rise.
Human Revolution next year
>>739023771I kinda hate the clone twist. It made the journey in MD feel hollow because you're not playing as Jensen from the beginning as it turns out.
>>739029505I don't have any particular feelings towards it.
>>739029505Its a reference to Total Recall
>>739021351As much as it sucks to leave it half-finished, I really hated the direction they went with MD, aside from Jensen there wasn't a single memorable or likeable character. And I feel like it any new game made in 2026 or later would be DEI slopped even harder. That annoying black hacker lately would probably end up becoming a playable character for half of the game.
>>739021351How hard is Deus Ex modding? I know some people have made custom campaigns for it before. Maybe someone should take a crack at it there.
>>739029952>original DXFairly "easy">HR and MDUnless some giga autist starts working on it day and night it's not happening
>>739029768How so?
>>739029917>And I feel like it any new game made in 2026 or later would be DEI slopped even harder.Yeah, augs lives matter was bad enough. And conspiracy theories are now viewed by progressives as dangerous misinformation that needs to be fought against. I wouldn't really trust any dev today to do without letting their politics ruin it.
>>739030314Hauser is given the memories and identity of Quaid in order to infiltrate and destroy the resistance cell.
The ending is Deus Ex 1. Why do people care about these prequels.
>>739030578Shit, right. I totally forgot about this. Whenever someone speaks of Total Recall I can only recall the chick with three tits.
>>739029917>aside from Jensen there wasn't a single memorable or likeable characterNot even Delara?
>>739021351>Aug lives matterI asked for this
>>739021351Be grateful you got whatever games that you did when you did. The only games that i actually looked forward to playing as of late was the nu Hitman rebooted series. Literally nothing else releases anymore that i care about. And that's still with the caveat of always online aids and fomo content. Everything else stopped being made.
Deus Ex 1 had the right idea. Create a finished fucking story on the first try and there won't be problems later.
>>739031107They intended to, but Squeenix forced them to chop up MD into multiple games.
>>739021351Realistically, I think it will be made at some point in the future. Although unfortunately it might not be while some voice actors are still able to perform their roles, like Bog Page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq5KWLqUewc>almost 2027>still hasn't been surpassed
>>739031295>Realistically, I think it will be made at some point in the futureThey've been rejecting proposals numerous times at Eidos or at least with other investors. It's not coming back. Immsims are gonna suffer the exact same fate as the stealth genre.That's my predictions. At least if we're talking about AA level funded projects. Which is what practically any good that is worth a damn needs in a budget.
>>739021351game looks newreminds me of deus exit had no sequels
>>739023771Doesn't make any sense as it doesn't explain how they were able to get ahold of Typhoon augs without Sarif knowing about it. The shit was experimental and never actually went into mass production since Sarif shut down
>>739031661Also where the fuck would you go with the plot? That shit was interesting years ago when we were in the dark. Now that half that shit is on the slate and the other half has already happened and is in the Epstein files, where would they go with the plot? And how would they not get immediately turned down by investors and the industry for hitting too close to home?
>>739030594that's like saying the original Deus Ex is irrelevant because of Invisible War
>>739032080TYM bought all of SI’s assets.
>Sarif had like 20 guards armed with assault rifles to protect an office tower. That's just in the accessible parts of the game.>Sets up his head of security in what must be at least a million dollar luxury suite.Seems a little overkill.
>>739032289I've met people like Sarif unironically. Company he owns is successful, decides everything needs to be an opulent overexpenditure. Million-dollar grand staircases blocking fire escapes. The break room has a barista for no reason on the days he flies in (doesn't enter the area). Tries to insist the sales team all need a 'high status' car brand that actually sucks for traveling and auto parts.
>>739021351>>739022120If you've played MD thoroughly you can see the general direction where Deus Ex 5 was going to go.- Adam Jensen in Deus Ex 4 is likely a clone of Deus Ex 3 Adam (dead).- He was created as a manchurian candidate to find and kill Janus (may or may not be a rouge, liberty-minded AI / Daedalus).- Despite their best efforts the Illuminati do not get the Human Restoration Act passed, and further, the Patient X genome from Adam will likely be used to eliminate the need for neuropozine and democratize augmentation.- Adam Jensen is going to die in the process.- Bob Page will spit from the Illuminati, possibly betray them when the going gets tough, and get off scott free to eventually lead MJ12.
You're all replaying Human Revolution next year right?
>>739032218Even so the timeline still makes it nearly nonsensical. Adam woke up the same year Sarif declared bankruptcy. The idea that they would be able to use the original Adam's genes to make someone else get over Aug rejection when Sarif himself couldn't figure out how to do that over a much longer timeframe is just silly
>>739022120It'd be depressing kino.
>>739022890>if MD was anything to go byRetard.
>>739021351They never should have brought him back for a 2nd game. He's just a very boring protagonist.Bob Page was more entertaining with his 5 lines.
>>739031337Wrong.This surpasses it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO2WIFTm7n4
>>739032289Sarif set up Adam in a sweet suite because he was needed for Megan's research. He was the key to allowing everyone to use augmentations.You protect your investment, senpai.
>>739023771>They used a man with a similar build to the real Adam, modified his face with plastic surgeryNah the Venom Snake route is lame. Genuine clone or we bust.
>>739032730>Janus (may or may not be a rouge, liberty-minded AI / Daedalus)It's Volkard Rand, the devs pretty much spoiled it themselves.
>>739023771>>739024254This is how I explain Jensen simping for Megan in MD. The real Jensen would not do such a thing. He was furious with Megan when he found out what she did. It's not even like he was still hopelessly in love with her and she was the one that ended the relationship or anything. The game strongly implies they both value their work more than personal relationships and so it was a somewhat amicable end. So the only reason he would think of her as anything but a traitor in MD would be they fucked with his memories.
>>739033065Jensen is in a perfect sweetspot of being aggressive, edgy and skeptical, but still fitting enough to any player actions. To some degree a full-freedom main character needs to be generic, and they rode the line perfectly to still let the generic guy be interesting.
>>739033668Jensen's a fan favorite, like JC and unlike Alex. Devs really struck gold with the little details like his obsession with cereal or "I never asked for this" becoming a meme line.
Part three of the Jensen trilogy should bring back Ben Saxon and Anna Kelso.
Bros... what did Dude Sex mean by this?
>>739033580>Volkard RandOh really? I hadn't heard that before. Where does that come from?
>>739034269THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>739034331He's the bald dude that appears with the Illuminati in MD. He stands out because he's the one OC character that has seemingly no role in the plot and no connection with the original game, then you've got pic related. When MD was new tons of players saw it as an open secret, and a decade later most accept it as fact.
>>739034331An art book flat out says Janus is supposed to look like Rand.Personally, I think that Janus is still Page, he just uses Rand as a fall guy.
>>739030594Same reason people like DMC3 when the ending is DMC1, or Snake Eater when the ending is the Solid Snake games, or RDR2 when the ending is RDR1.
>>739034817>or Snake Eater when the ending is the Solid Snake gamesI actually don't think a lot of people did like the retconning of the entire MGS franchise with the prequels.
>>739034958I’m pretty sure the prequels are the most popular entries in the whole series.
>>739035092For the gameplay, not the story.People have invented a myth about how someone else wrote the earlier games purely because the writing becomes so awful later.
>>739034958Snake Eater is the fan favorite and Phantom Pain the most popular due to it being the most recent and easily accessible one. And in any case the worst of the retcons came about with 4, the latest chronological game to this day not counting Rising.
>>739035268No, I’m pretty sure that MGS3 is considered to be an example of apex storytelling in gaming and is considered by many, many people to one of the top best games of all time.
>>739035353>the entire franchise now exists because some retards decided to simp for a retarded mary sue cunt>apex storytellingloli don't think so, tranny
>>739035436>ad hominemThe loud concession of one with no argument
>>739035508Insults are not ad hominems, you pseudo-intellectual fucktard.
Mooooooooom, anons are fighting agaaaaaaaaaaaaain!
>>739021351This game literally looks better than AAA games that came out this year.What the fuck happened to graphics?
all my niggas hate square enix
>>739035861We reached the point where adding things like more polygons and more texture resolution has very little impact on appearance so all the effort is going to things like particle effects, lighting (ray tracing), etc. and in that regard MD looks very dated.It's also worth remembering MD ran like complete shit on release.
>>739035861gamedev industry has been experiencing debilitating self-inflicted braindrain for the last 15+ years
>>739035861UE5 enables devs to develop games as cheaply and lazily as possibleThey didn't have that tech back then
>>739021351there always was an ending, most people just missed ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jaZF248ds
>>739021351Started replaying DEHR and I immediately got sad the second I started walking around Megan's office. The lack of closure from DEMD's thanks to Square's greed, and the fact that this amazing cyber renaissance look and feel is lost forever is painful.The team that worked on it have moved on to something else and/or left the studio, and their dev mindset of when they made this game has changed so even if they did get back together it won't capture the same look, tone and feel. All that potential thrown away.
>>739028027so fucking true man. the publisher got in the way so many times and then the sequel also got cancelled by things unrelated to the development. like holy shit just let people do their jobs. very sad. i applaud elias for calling this out
>>739039089It was a different time.
>>739021351>devs sent to marvel mines by squeenix>marvel avengers flops>guardian's of the galaxy game was surprisingly solid, but no one played it>now relegated to support role for fable and grounded 2
>Game was all about icarus flying too close to the sun>Jensen trilogy dies half wayBittersweet
Wanna feel old? The girl that promoted the irl prosthetic Sarif robot arms is all grown up now.
>>739039232>friend is play tester at square enix at the time>tells me not to lose hope for deus ex>spends 6k play testing avengers trash>everytime I ask him about deus ex he says it's not entirely dead just yet>quits after play testing avengers buck breaks him>mfw next desu sex news were that it was fucking dead
>>739021351I never asked for one
>>739039832She cute.
>>739039232It's comical how such a licence simply refused to print money for video games. Until Rivals, at least.
>>739022120>We know he doesn't stop the Illuminati and Bob Page at all because its a prequel.Jensen's goal is to stop the Illuminati and, if there had been a third game, he likely would have done just that. The Illuminati is a shell of its former self in DX1, having been usurped by Page and MJ12. They could have very well have given Jensen his "happy" ending in that he succeeds in bringing down the Illuminati, but it ultimately ends up bittersweet in that it gives rise to Page and MJ12 - bonus points of Page himself manipulates Jensen into bringing down the Illuminati.
>>739039232desu by this point eidos of today have nothing in common with people that made HR and MD important people left the studio long time ago
>>739022120>l because its a prequelNo, it isn't, lmao
>>739034269It was a pretty obvious outcome in hindsight, even by 2008, given what the US was doing in Eastern Europe and the already prevailing view that the EU was a leech on US resources. Hell, most people don't remember how divisive the first Bush election was, and how that went to court to be resolved before Gore backed down, something that was virtually unheard of and a precursor to the overt fighting that we see now. Even economically, the warning signs were there for decades, but nobody did anything because it wouldn't hurt the entrenched elite.
i still can't believe they actually did this shit
I still autistically listen to the soundtracks of both games every day. Its just perfect for background music
>>739041998>anon randomly discovers ambient musichttps://youtu.be/r6qt_70iGk4
>>739039937>spends 6k to playtestwtf? dont you get paid to playtest?
>>739032289I have an older cousin that worked in real estate before 2008 and got the ultraluxe treatment, marble office bathrooms and all. It's slightly exaggerated in the games but not unrealistic. Apparently it was even more decadent during the dotcom bubble, and I assume in the current AI bubble. Some people go full retard on lavish expenditures during big booms.
>>7390421706k hours, my bad
>>739042207Reminds me of some charity scam in Indonesia or something where they got caught because one of he renovators said that it's quite queer that the head-office of the CEO of a charity organization has him installing a literal golden toilet in his personal office WC.
>>739041998It's among my playlists when I have to do otherwise boring work. Mccann also did Splinter Cell Double Agent which works great for that. Too bad his only work in vidya after MD was bloody borderlands 3, 7 years ago.
>>739042207Not a billionaire tycoon myself but my understanding is a lot of the extravagant spending is just because it's not good to have cash laying around because then it's income you pay tax on. But if you spend it on getting gold toilets for the executive washroom then it becomes a "capital expenditure" and now you get to claim it as a loss over several years.
>>739043428Uh, noo.. You don't pay a holding tax..? Pretty sure that doesn't exist...Once income is reported, it goes into retained earnings and it won't be taxed again... I think..Cash, by itself, is just an asset on the balance sheet.
>>739043428For corporate level taxes there are often other manners of avoiding rape but it's basic procedure for very high earners. Most would probably prefer to have higher income, but you get 60% raped in taxes. So you're paid indirectly by the employer offering top employee haute couture suits as representation expenditure or something, or a health insurance that covers five trips a year to a spa for their wives.
>>739042691>Too bad his only work in vidya after MD was bloody borderlands 3, 7 years ago.Latest was Superfuse, "only" three years ago. And that was shut down.
>>739043498The cash came from somewhere so almost certainly it's going to be treated as income and you pay tax on income. Any income you generate from income you pay tax on. But if you spend it first on a depreciating asset it's no longer income you pay tax on but a deduction. So you have increased the value of an asset you hold and reduced the amount of income tax you have to pay and gained a multi-year deduction.
>>739043706Ah, that's conservative accounting, yeah. It's coming back to me. Companies love to fiddle with depreciation and inventory valuations in order to shift earnings around, either to smoothen cash flows or to make things seem better/worse than they actually are.
>>739042691>Splinter Cell Double AgentI always come back to this ost, it's such a highly underrated soundtrack. I love how moody and melancholic it gets while also being sneaking music, it works so well. It's great to listen to outside the game too. I'm probably in the minority but SCDA's ost surpasses CT. It's that good. I even used it for most of mgsv through the idroid.I wish they brought McCann back for Conviction, his music would've worked wonders with the tone and story that game went with, damn shame it was in development hell for so long. The few tracks Amon Tobin made were the only ones that stood out from Conviction (The amazing main menu song and I think some cutscenes.)SCDAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qArT6zNk9Uwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZQpGYD7tLQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYG4_-DsB8Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR2n1xBHSb8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=135k_FSabq8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U72_T6A-WeAConviction main menuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLRgUtqvErg
>>739041809this was square at peak retardationthis and talking about how dissapointed they were with the tomb raider sales after it sold like 5 million or something
>>739025914bullshit, MD is a much better game
SEX WITH DELARA!!
i want new deus ex with female protagneed them augmented tits
>>739047110finally a good post
>>739022120With this in mind, it has ended about as well as it could. Some 2049 woe is me faggot ass video essay bait would not serve any part of it.
>watching The Expanse>suddenly Elias pops out as a character>wave of nostalgia for Deus Ex hits me
the criminal past DLC is one of my all time favourites
Another classic Squeenix fuckup to go with Tomb Raider, Nier, Bravely Default, Final Fantasy VII, etc. etc. etc. This one really hurts though, because much like Half Life 2: Episode 2, it ended on “wait, where’s the rest of the game?” (My literal words when the credits rolled in DXMD)
>>739047916He always plays as Adam Jensen in his roles. I was surprised when I heard his voice on 2018 Battletech as a Taurian Concordat captain
>>739049105Square doesnt get enough hate. If Eidos was under Capcom, Deus Ex would already have the trilogy, a prequel, 2 story DLCs for each game and a spinoff.
>>739021441Yes, but it was in between Human Revolution and Mankind Divided.
God it's so depressing.
>>739021351>play hell is us from same people>its also unfinishedlmao, they never learnanyway really cool setting and world design, but fuck me the story is ass, its barely there only like 5 minute of main plot for 25 narrative driven game
>>739039832Damn, she grew her arm back?!
>>739034269HR is surprisingly rather prescient in some things, like the EV charging station and the oil market getting fucked up in 2020s.
>>739039089Yeah I was willing to give the team a chance because their hearts were in the right place. They're no Ion Storm but it felt like they were slowly improving in each game and I'd reckon by the third game, they would've been doing their best. What a shame.
>>739040337>Mary DeMarle is the lead writer for the new Mass EffectWonder how she'll do then. GotG turned out fine so it should be okay right?
>>739021351Should have bought the second game at full price when it first launched plus all the side content and DLC too.People complaining now shouldn't have a say in the matter if they never supported it when it was being released to low sales originally.You either love a thing or you don't. And you chose it's death.
>>739054117>greed should be rewarded>enshitiffication is actually a good thing!You are a kike or a jeet or a nigger or perhaps all three.
I will never get to see my headcanon come true when Adam destroys the Illuminati space station and falls into Earth, ending his saga with Icarus Fall symbolism.
>>739049105>This one really hurts though, because much like Half Life 2: Episode 2, it ended on “wait, where’s the rest of the game?” (My literal words when the credits rolled in DXMD)Yep though it's not just the cliffhanger part. It's also the fact that the devs were one title away from greatness. I always felt that way with Valve on HL2 + the Episodes, the same way I felt with Eidos Montreal on nuDeus Ex. HR was flawed but it has a solid enough foundation. MD was them trimming off the fat but it's leading to something. And I felt the supposed next game would've been them learning all the lessons and finally deliver.
>>739054515I feel like it's what Eidos was planning from the beginning. The moon base stuff, this space station bit. Shame how Deus Ex never managed to have a proper moon base level.
>>739054117sure, its the audience thats the problem, not the publisher who forces resources to go towards shitty mulitplayer modes, tie in mobile apps and preorder "augment" campaigns
>>739054838I agree with this anon. I can see why valve was burned out after working on hl for so long but god dammit, ep2 perfected the formula and ep3 could have been great. no doubt hl3 will be good but it will probably be a different type of game
>>739041809You can't believe square enix did something greedy and cowardly?
>>739055452Yes, the audience (or lack thereof) is the main issue facing immersive sims which are just not liked by the vast majority. It's a niche genre but requires a decent budget to make so it rarely happens and they're basically dead unless Colantonio finds enough funding for his new studio. Square having retarded marketing was a secondary issue. It didn't have a negative impact on Tomb Raiders release at the same time because the potential user base was that much higher.
>>739055906I thought colantino is already working on something. what happened to that
>>739055906An immersive sim is just an experience point RPG with guns, what's so niche about that?
>>739056154He is working on a new imsim game. He recently got an investor for it actually, the Korean publisher who made Lies of P.
>>739048619Everyone made jokes about Adam's built in shades but does he have built in hair gel to get it to stand up like that?
>>739041998https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jfycJKbPnc&list=OLAK5uy_m0I1ZtsCtK6hEXBsNE6UUahYncP6DVIxoI used to have this on my running playlist shortly after DEHR came out.
A Criminal Past ends with Adam cracking a smile. Ill take it he sussed out the Task Force shrink and has been fighting in the shadows during DE1 and IW.
>>739056180Nailing down the definition is a fools errand. I use it for games that let me stack boxes.
>>739055906I always believe that imsim's problem is more of a marketing issue. HR and Dishonored 1 sold very well for instance and it's because they were marketed really well at the time. HR for instance had very good marketing with the meme factor (I didn't ask for this), banger cinematic and devs actually show how the game is supposed to be played.
>>739056219nice, I know it was announced long time ago, hopefully theres some new info soon
