Which had the worse fate?
>>739022528Camelot.
worse in what waybecause rare made Sea of Thieves and everyone stopped giving a shit like a week laterthe people at Bungie are still getting paid
>>739022575Camelot!
Rare by far
>>739022528Rare discourse is more annoying because it's fueled by console warring idiots who use false information and flimsy reasoning to justify their fantasies that if Rare was still with Nintendo they'd be making a seventh Banjo-Kazooie by now
>>739022595>>739022664>Made another KI a fuckton of years later>Ended up being a decent gameRARE has being through shit but managed to deliver to some extent at least despite all.
>>739022760KI reboot wasn't made by Rare
>>739022758>if Rare was still with Nintendo they'd be making a seventh Banjo-Kazooie by nowoh no please don't, not Banjo Sooieven
>>739022528Rare, easily.Bungle only has Pathways Into Darkness as a good game claim.
>>739022847>it's trueRare is that damned, huh?
>>739022760Killer Instinct X-box was Iron Galaxy, but Rare.Rare's been doing shit like Banjo-Zelda: Tears of the Nuts and Bolts.But for every one of those, there is a dogshit Microslop mismanagement to their name (waggle bullshit).
>>739022528Rare had higher highs but lower lows (Kinect sports)Both stuck in live service hell for the foreseeable future providing updates and content for games no one cares about
>>739023015Yeah Rare was gutted pretty much as soon as Microcock bought them out. All the talent left and it's been swirling the drain for like 25 years now.
>>739023015>>739023016the Battletoads remake was something I guessi'd have to see how many of the OG devs are still in there
>>739022641Camelot.
>>739023016>>739023102Then how come Kameo and Viva Piñata happened? Specially viva piñata, that one was good.
>>739023215No it wasn't
>>739023128>battletoads 2020that wasn't rare at all but a studio known as hacks, that's why... that happened.
>>739022528Marathon is a massive flop but Rare has been putting out nothing but garbage for 20 years.
>>739022528Those retards who left Rare and became EA whores
>>739022885the point is that Banjo-Threeie was never happening to begin with>>739023102No they weren'tThe only people who left after the buyout were the Goldeneye devs who were leaving anyways to form Free Radical>>739023215Kameo and Grabbed by the Ghoulies were meant to be games for Nintendo originallyViva Pinata was still helmed by Gregg Mayyles and is rooted in an idea one of the Stampers had
Rare because it wasn't really their fault that their owner is incompetent. They had the soul forcibly wrung out them. Bungie actually got significantly WORSE after becoming independent again.
>>739024375>that their owner is incompetent.Microsoft's hands off with themRare's output slowed down immensely because games got harder to make and Rare's games had a consistent amount of drastic developmental changes that couldn't be afforded in the approaching modern era
Both have run their natural course and are being forced against the laws of nature to continue living.
>>739022528Rare easily. They had many great ips that died pitifully. It sucks about Halo, but that was just one measely series.
>>739023131Its only a model
>>739023262I like the viva pinata games
>>739024786shh.
Rare easily
>>739022528Bungie was never good, so rare
>>739022595>the people at Bungie are still getting paid the execs literally embezzled $1.3B that was earmarked for labor from the sony buyout
Rareware by far. Imagine your work stolen by nintendo and having to be under microsoft. Bungie hasn't done anything good ever.
>>739022528Rare and it's not even close.>>Rare>hit it out of the park with so many good games under Nintendo's tutelage>Miyamoto fucking hates you and lets you get bought by Microsoft out of spite>your new owners are so retarded they thought this means they own Donkey Kong>put you to work retrofitting Gamecube titles and remaking Conker>underperform>release Viva Piñata, which was kino, but doesn't perform enough to Microsoft>pull the emergency Banjo lever and don't tard-wrangle the staff who think the car idea and bigass world with no platforming or collecting is gold>underperform>make them work on Kinect shit nobody wants for years>all the good talent quits as the world they grew up in withers around them>finally completely lose identity in Sea of Thieves and become a live service slop-farm studio>>Bungie>have a good run with Marathon and ONI>hit it out of the park with Halo>Microsoft buys you>immediately fucking hate it but tough it out anyways under their bullshit>have a very good high note with Halo Reach and its kino multiplayer>Sony offers to buy you to get mitts on tthe Destiny brand you're working on>immediately jump ship, Microsoft fucks up your baby in the process and kills the series so bad it becomes a PS5 game today>Sony pays you out the ass for ownership>underperform and underdeliver>ask for more cash and understanding>globalist cabal shuts the world down over the flu>take adavantage of the situation and jump ship with golden parachutes while your Marathon reboot is FUBAR>leave Sony holding the hot potato as your old staff is either retired, starting new ventures, or running for CongressBungie made out like bandits, they had very excellent strategy.
>>739022528Rare by far. They destroyed their legacy as platforming-adventure legends while most of their OG Devs were still there whereas Bungie became what it is after majority of their OG Devs left and Sony acquired them.
Rare.>Was already losing money and funding going into the new millennium >Dinosaur Planet was a massive money sink that took more money to change into a Star Fox game>Being brought out by Microsoft was a legit killing blow for them, they put out more games on the GBA and DS than they did for the Xbox/360>Seavor or whoever else decided to be a dumb fuck and claimed that he was burned out on platformers and made a driving building game instead of just remaking Banjo-Kazooie with some different events, the legit final nail in the coffin>N&B sold less than 200K, barely 200K years later and the company got gutted>Kinect Sports became their bread and butter, pic related was the first time I learned a company could be drained of all their soul and passion>All their concepts and prototypes being dumped only confirmed they were done, Rare Replay reminding the public that the show was over>Sea of Thieves is run by three interns at MS wearing the Rare moniker on their backs>Everwild and some of their other upcoming games were quietly canceled >Will probably be absorbed and permanently shut down before the next decadeSome other mentions include not telling Nintendo to buy them outright before 2002, the Stampers bailing and cashing out around 2006 or 2007 and former Rare staff failing to recapture their glory days with Yooka-Laylee.
>>739022641Hehehe
>>739031414>Kinect Sports became their bread and butter, pic related was the first time I learned a company could be drained of all their soul and passionSeriously, why does my posts get broken down like this?
>>739031495I think we all heard it.
>Bungie were unironically setting up a multi-game mega story that spanned from Pathways all the way to Destiny>yfw they axed it when they jumped ship from MS because they lost Halo>yfw they turned Marathon, the fucking cornerstone of the entire multi-game spanning plot into an unrelated Extraction Shooter that is wearing the name like a skin suit
>>739023102retard
>>739031705Wait really?I'd always heard some people thought halo was a marathon prequel
>>739034213>I'd always heard some people thought halo was a marathon prequelPathways and Marathon are directly connected, but Halo is in a weird limbo between them.
>>739031252Was Miyamoto just jealous or did he hate working so closely with banter bongs who could show up their own teams? Rare were very unique I miss their old games even Viva Pinata had that spark.
>>739035476He and nintendo did not appreciate being 1up'd on their own console and they never bought more than 50% on purpose.
>>739035590>Wow! These Rare guys are pretty good, huh Miyamoto-san.>We should snap them up before... What? How dare they out do Mario? What do you....>Later>Heeey.. yeah despite what we said we aren't gonna buy you guys out. Sorry.
>>739035590That's petty. In the long run Nintendo would've been sitting on multiple cash cows if they retained Rare and helped run it with their original values. Microsoft are so dogshit they were carried by the moment and people who were involved in the early game industry. As soon as they burned all those people Xbox became a mediocre brand.
>>739022528Bungie "won" by tricking Sony into burning billions into them
