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I FUARKING DID IT
KINOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>739030850
you did not do it lmao
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>>739030889
yes I did bitch and I STILL had 9 estus flasks remaining
seethe
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>>739030850
>frost katana
>summoned
>magic
>higher than sl1
You did not winned
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>>739031140
post your gameplay then
oh yeah, you won't.
I mog you.
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>>739030850
Did what, emarrassed yourself?
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>>739031842
>emarrassed
yikes....
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>>739030850
good boy
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>summoned mimic tear
>spammed charged arts with dark moon greatsword
I did in fact beat Malenia and the game
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>Use wraith calling bell
>Cast carian retaliation
>giga mog melania so hard the devs had to patch the game

I won
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For me it was spamming giant hunt on a guardian's swordspear
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>>739030850
I thought it was hilarious how so many retards used the mimic summon and that stupid katana when ER first came out and Malenia was a brickwall for them. 'Wtf dude she can heal!?'
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>claws
>bleed build
>endure
>max flasks

i don't do evading in my elden ring
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>>739030850
lmao I killed her my first try with a mimic tear on an int build, didn't even know she was supposed to be hard until I read on the internet about everyone malding over how hard she is.

Then I beat her legit with no buffs no consumes just me and meteoric blade, so don't say I didn't "win".
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>>739031842
>Summon cute girl to have her watch your elite skills against a boss
>sees your frost katana, laughs, and leaves.
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>>739030850
tiche did it
and that's okay because the game is fucking bullshit
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>>739034453
she didn't do it
WE (me and her) did it
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>>739030850
is that boss body shape a man or a woman?
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Best girl
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>>739030850
The Melenia fight single handedly ruined the game for me
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>>739031719
beat her on a wretch playthrough with no summons, what now
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>>739038034
>No Tiche
maybe try getting some bitches bro
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>>739037659
you know she like of average difficulty for an endgame boss if you simply use a shield, right?
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>>739030850
>Cold Air
The most offensive part of the image and I say that without a hint of irony.
>free chunk of damage on almost every boss every 20 seconds
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>>739030850
very weird boss, most of her moveset is totally reasonable to play around then she has the fuck you combo, which you need to study esoteric texts and meditate under a waterfall to learn how to avoid
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>>739038209
you can avoid most of it by just panic rolling, and taking two or three hits of it is no big deal
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>>739038321
I just do the run away/roll method now that I know it, unless I'm doing a greatshield build then I'll just tank it. but figuring it out blind is a real pain, especially when there are certain strategies that aren't very intuitive because it's the singular move in the entire game AND DLC that works the way it does. otherwise very reasonable boss though
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>>739038209
>how to avoid
>people will call ER rollslop but absolutely refuse to do anything other than roll
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>>739038459
that clip is dumb because you're just standing around and waiting for the attack to happen, so you have full stamina. Malenia is weak to being pressured so a good strat is to keep up the offensive, which requires chasing and attacking. the easiest way to roll through the attack is to also be standing at that distance with full stamina and sprinting away while dodging the last few swings, but if she busts that shit out after you blew your stamina bar you're gonna get guard broken and killed. And if you're blocking her you want to keep the pressure up so she doesn't out heal your damage.

tl;dr all attacks are easy to avoid in a vacuum
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>>739038751
Your stamina should be regenerating fast enough to fill the bar before the first hit lands... I've been playing the game again recently.
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>>739038751
>waiting for the attack to happen, so you have full stamina
The wind up is so long you'll never get caught with no stamina and you even have time to 2h. You can even soft swap to a shield if you insist on 2h or powerstancing. This is not theory crafting when I've beaten her consistently with this strategy at RL1.
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>>739038751
bruh that nigga is level 1 the fuck you mean he got full stamina
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In the next game rolling can delete your save, kill your parents and shove a dildo up your ass and people will still insist rolling is the only thing you can do.
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>>739038854
I'll take your word for it but I imagine RL1 runs come with an extra level of cautious play due to the nature of getting oneshot by most things in the endgame, so it's easier to react to the waterfowl.

>>739038910
his stamina bar is full, a RL1 with a full bar of stamina will have more stamina than a RL999 who just used all his stamina you see.
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>>739030850
It's fine, these games are meant to be replayed endlessly. Now you will do a naked Giant-Crusher run, right anon?
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>>739030850
>He didn't solo her
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>>739031719
Mog is a different boss anon...
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>>739039165
Reminds me that the guy literally had to summon Mimic for the first time fighting Messmer. Unironically has less basic skill than most people on this board so using this fraud as a measurement is not ideal.
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Every boss tilted me with bullshit delay attacks and roll catching the entire fucking game and then I get to this nigger boss. Genuinely horrendous design, Miyahacki doesn't know what made his games good, and retarded streamers and fromsoftsexuals will eat up any disgusting slop that gets shat out by that company. And the worst part is I finished it 3 times for achievements because the combat, despite the boss design, is incredibly smooth and satisfying. Malenia's waterfowl is the single worst designed move in any game they've released and don't let anyone gaslight you otherwise.
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>>739039505
>bullshit delay attacks and roll catching
Maybe stop defaulting to roll spam then.
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>>739039558
>roll when seems completely natural based on decades of irl and vidya experience
>game is literally designed with multiple frames of delay to catch people who rolled at a normal time
>thousands of people also bring up the same issue
>anon says this is roll spam

Please kill yourself choking on Miyahacki's cock.
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>>739039505
Regurgitated reddit opinion
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>>739039629
Reddit loves ER thoughbeit and does not respect the things that actually made DS and DaS1 good games.
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>>739039728
Thanks for the insight mr reddit expert
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>>739039505
>get punished for the doing the same thing over and over again never learning
>this is the game's fault
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>>739039728
Reddit also loves Demon Souls and Dark Souls retard. Everyone loves these games which is why every non-FPS action game rips them off.
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>>739039768
>every boss/enemy has the same amount of delay
Are you stupid?

>>739039802
The rip off the things that DaS3 and ER took from them, not the things that make them good. Retard.
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>>739039728
DS1 is literally the most Reddit game in the series.
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>>739039843
>>every boss/enemy has the same amount of delay
i've been replaying it recently and yes actually, they do. the whole point of a rollcatch is to hit people who roll the second their character is able to (instead of remaining calm and delaying the roll to dodge the rollcatch). the move has to hit within a fairly small window to even be a rollcatch in the first place.
the only actual bullshit here is the way the game will queue up a roll input when you're staggered from a hit, which causes you to automatically roll after getting hit, which causes you to get hit from the rollcatch. but this is avoided by not getting hit by the first hit.
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>>739039984
The extremely delayed attacks like Margit overhead swing are meant to be strafed actually.
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>>739038459
blocking the entire 1st and 2nd barrage in waterfowl will heal >30% of her hp anon
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>>739040027
that's not a rollcatch then. it's also really not bullshit at all after the first time you see it.
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>>739040070
It's much less than that. But I guess you'd still rather die and bitch about it forever instead of letting the boss heal for even 1hp.
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>>739039615
These games have become a weird dance of the playerbase learning something and the devs changing things to make the learned thing become a liability in the next game.

It is now some sort of one-up-manship contest. One unemployed streamer beat the hardest boss in the game naked and with fists at lvl1?
Cool, the final boss in the sequel will be engineered to annoy that guy in particular.

If you look at the trajectory of how complex movesets got and how short timings, how big HP and damage then this is an arms race that won't end well. Millions of players expect Consort Radahn and Malenia to be surpassed in terms of difficulty.
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>>739040410
PCR was literally their breaking point. They couldn't figure out how to make a boss harder than Malenia with her HA so they just inflated the hitboxes and made the fight impossible to just position through mandating you to use i-frames to dodge the pillars and gravity attacks. We're definitely looking for a clean reset now because they can't milk the Elden Ring combat loop any further.
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>summoned
lol
lmao, even
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>>739040565
>parry regular attacks to prevent light beams from even appearing
>jump over stomp
>guard counter lion's claw
>raptor the nuke
We need more bosses like PCR.
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>>739030850
>summon
got some news for you bwo
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>>739040070
Health bars are not real anon. It is infinitely better for her to deal chip damage and heal a bit than for you to fuck up and take the combo to your face.
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Phase 2 is too easy to script but sometimes she’ll do a waterfowl and then her clone move right after and then another waterfowl but it’s very rare to the point where if you see it you just gotta admit you’re unlucky
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>>739040839
On that note I actually wish you could just disable enemy/boss health bars. Seeing something low on health gets you in the mindset of making stupid risks to finish them off.
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>>739041008
Half the fun of these games is doing stupid shit. I wish you could see the stance bar too since different enemies regen it at different times and it’s not always equivalent to size.
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>>739040697
>Positioning doesn't matter
>Just block and use i-frames
Genius
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>>739030850
>Tiche
I'm sorry anon, but you didn't.
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>>739041243
Positioning matters for the light clone attacks and the attack where he flies into the sky with meteors and shoots them down at you followed by more light clones.
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>help random person
>he messages and says thanks me for helping
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>>739038034
>beat her
>using a weapon
You did not beat her.
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>>739041303
I haven’t had this happen ever since I switched to PC. I don’t think 90% of Steam users know how to find recent players or they’re just less thankful to others in general.
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>>739030850
>katana
>summon
anon......... GOOD JOB! you did beat her
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>>739041283
I want positioning to matter the entire fight, a boss just doing 360° AOEs is lazy and kills the whole "tough but fair" nature of these games. These attacks have absolutely no counter to them other than scripting the kill or relying on i-frames. Precise positioning was a way for players to show off their skill and that's completely dead. This boss has virtually zero skill expression, it's all binaries.
>Did you roll?
No
>Then die.
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>>739030850
Tiche did it.
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>>739037210
a literally rotting fungus woman
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>>739041371
You want a game that only has an analog stick and 1 button for attack. I want a game that rewards juggling multiple tools. Positioning should only be one tool among several used in a fight.
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>>739041565
That's literally the problem. We were talking about how modern FromSoftware design affects the unemployed with self-imposed challenges not how the game forces passivity on you.
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>ER comes out
>Everything would be better if the game was designed around deflecting
>DLC adds deflecting
>Everything would be better if the game was designed around positioning
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>>739041636
No.
>the game forces passivity on you
No. ER rewards aggression and even mindless trading with stance breaks.
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>>739041682
Strafing is active, rolling is reactive.
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>>739030850
Congratulations for beating a game a girl could solo on a dance pad at SL1.
The fish did not use summons either.
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>>739041815
To be fair the fish had its survival on the line. Would’ve been fed to a kitty cat if it didn’t win in time.
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>>739041636
>not how the game forces passivity on you.
Elden Ring? Passivity? Wtf?

>>739041779
So reactivity then. Not passivity. You say one thing and mean another. And you can play aggressively and still react to the boss.
>b-buh not if I start charging a heavy in the boss's face from neutral!!!
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>>739030850
>tiche
TALL GIRL SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>739042029
We were talking about how FromSoftware is at war with the challenge runner community. I will just remind you of that. And yes rolling is relatively passive compared to strafing. If I see an attack go over my fucking head I want it to whiff, not get hit two frames before the sword visually connects because muh skill expression and game mechanics force me to deal with this spaghetti coded garbage.
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>>739042174
>FromSoftware is at war with the challenge runner community. I will just remind you of that.
No it isn't.
>If I see an attack go over my fucking head I want it to whiff
They already do. You can duck under to many attacks just by crouching or using an attack that puts you in a similar low state.
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>>739040410
>Consort Radahn and Malenia
These are not equal in the slightest
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>>739042285
>They already do
https://youtu.be/adU0HMKjDoM?si=NQkx6C-OW82mfAtp
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i might reinstall elding later this year along with a trainer and finally complete the damn game
to hell with a ban, the coop doesn't work half the time either
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>>739030850
>not only a summon, but tiche or mimic
>moon veil
Lmao you didn't do shit, fuck off loser screaming for attention. You played very easy mode. Do you run into halo legendary threads and pretend you did the same thing they did? Hate you people. Easy mode (summons) was a mistake exactly for this reason.
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>>739042356
Irrelevant not only because your video is of a version that's 2 years outdated but because the game consists of more bosses than just PCR.
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>>739042480
I kneel.



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