Are leverless controllers worth buying?
>>739032678why not just use a keyboard?
Unfun garbage, like taking something fun but being overly competitive about it. Get fucking swirly some more nerd
>>739032678Maybe. It don't magically improve anyone on fighting games despite retards saying otherwise, but still great for 2d games in general, also tetris.
>>739032768This>>739032678
>>739032780If pushing buttons is "unfun garbage" praytell how you can use a fightstick while having fun if your right hand is only pushing buttons.
>>739032678I mean its really down to preference. Buy one and try it out. I will say moving with buttons feels better than stick, but I'm not as efficient with super inputs that require QCB, or HCB so I had to switch back. If you are interested I'd suggest testing out a keyboard first.
>>739032678If you don't already regularly player fighting games (at least a few hours every week) no its absolutely not. A leverless controller won't make you better. It won't make you want to play the game more. If you aren't already regularly on the grind and or going to tournaments then you have no reason to own one. If you're ass you're still gonna be ass.
>>739032839Because using socd and abusing directional canceling that can't be done on normal moving levers is robotic soulless gaming.
you can have one for like 30 bucks why don't u just buy one to try
>>739032678had the choice between a leverless and an arcade stick and chose the stick because I already have a mechanical keyboard and numpad. the stick is so much fun. slappy arcade buttons are more fun than kailh switches
>>739032678i like mineget one off aliexpress and just resell it for a profit on ebay if you hate it
>>739032768For starters a leverless board runs on x-input so any game you load will already have the keybinds properly assigned.You can also play with the board on your lap, on the couch or on bed, which would be bulky with a keyboard.The position of the keys is also more ergonomic.
>>739032952>>739032954Why is everyone assuming I want one for fighting games?You can play rhythm games and shmups with this which is my main objective
You need more?
>>739033078Keyboard? Retard
>>739032768Consoles, also you can swap caps.
>>739032678Niggas will do literally anything but admit that keyboards are best for fighting games and wasd/arrow keys are better than any fucking dpad ever made.
>>739032678the real worth of a leverless becomes more apparent when you want to go to an event and the chunky ass fightstick can barely fit with the awkward stick trying to break your backpack
>>739033163This is objectively better than a keyboard thoughbeit
>>739032678Personally, I couldn't do quarter circle turns or some of the other commands on a levered controller to save my life. Like, you could put me in training mode and it doesn't matter if it was a joystick controller or an xb1/ps5/ps4 controller and I couldn't execute the command required for a simple hadouken or dp more than 1 in 4 times. Just couldn't.Leverless I practiced a little bit and could do all that stuff fairly consistently. It opened up the genre to me. So yes, worth it.
>>739033078Nigga you're using a fucking keyboard already.
>>739032969What year is it
>>739033163keyboards are even more prone to misinput because there's too many worthless keys
>>739033278Yeah but I enjoy playing DJMax and this is a godsent for the side tracks since you can just use the thumb buttons.
>>739033078>Why would you assume I'm using this fork to eat? Clearly I'm going to stick it in this electrical socke
>>739033321I find it funny that people bitch about leverless controllers with 16 keys for having too many keys and causing misinputs, yet these casuals actually think a 100% keyboard is okay kek
>>739033028analog keyboard and get a 60%. you can get quality for under a hundred, itll be cheaper than having a keyboard and a fighting stick.
>>739033221It's a fucking keyboard with 70 less keys for 3x the price. Just USE A FUCKING KEYBOARD.
>>739033509Only keychron and wooting emulate a analogue gamepad and they cost way over hundred dollars
>>739033546A haute42 is quite cheap
i fucking HATE that every leverless is this slim tiny retardation, i have to get a custom made metal box because no one does it anymore besides hitbox and that shit fucking sucks with a terrible cable
>>739033490Layout and button size.>>739033546You can get a haute for like 80 bux, cheaper than arcade controllers.
>>739033546try playing any anime fighting game for an extended period of time with the leverless layout on a keyboard. you hands are going to hate you.
>>739033546Keyboards are not ergnomic as leverless and doesn't allow for button layouts with 30mm buttons. Fuck off with the keyboard suggesting they are not the same, they are layout for typing not comfortable hand placement for button pressing. And you certainty can't do double taps or pianoing or p-link so again SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR KEYBOARD.Thank you
If gaming is your main hobby, investing in good peripherals is essential. You should at the very least have:>a mechanical keyboard>a leverless board>an ubs driving wheel>a flight stickAm I missing anything?
>>739033875>Am I missing anything?A dildo
>>739033309Never too late to bring back the fun
>>739033875a soundvoltex controller and a iidx controller
>>739033804>>739033851104 mechanical kailh key with numpad. set buttons to4561230-.1literally perfect for leverless input
>>739033934>bring backsticks have never left and are still immensely popular
>>739033875Game pad for action rpgs and platformers
>>739033875Trackball for shooters.
>>739033875a normal fucking controller
>>739033975Hmmm no. Waste of money no one uses numpad keyboards these days too much desk space
>>739034121numpads are more useful and valuable than a leverless controller. furthermore, such a keyboard would have n-key rollover and 1000hz polling, like the 8bitdo retro keyboard, which is about the same price as their leverless anyway, but better
>>739032768Ergonomics is literally the only reason
>>739032678i got one because it's way more portable than a stick
>>739033163keyboards are fucking ass for 360's, or vertical 180's, or down-up charge motions
>>739034312>implying you need 1000hz polling for pressing keysretard, this is why companies can rip you off
>>739033221
>leverlessIt's PC casuals readed on keyboards who haven't the motor skills for using direction inputs. Erstwhile, the genre wasn't completely lobotomised, illegal; in todays "Modern" environment it's immaterial what peripherals are used because the games effectively play thesmselves anyway.
>>739033804I already do that, it's not hard. >oh, ewww, uguu, typing is so difficult, hmngu
I have long ass fingers, but I feel like these fightan sticks have their buttons way too far apart. I just want a fight stick but with buttons packed together like a keyboard layout. I've actually played a few games that allow dual x-input and keyboard input, so I use the stick in my left hand and the keyboard in my right and it's fucking rad
>>739034423That's right you need 8k minimum
>>739034468Big true, pad is king in this new world of lenient inputs. I learned on a madcatz fight stick in the early 2010s on SSF4:AE when it mattered, now if I play at all I just use a pad.
As a newbie I struggled a lot with choosing a 4 or 8 gate, etc. "One does this better, the other this". It kept me from simply playing and getting good.Then I got a leverless and it all just disappeared. Now it's all about timing. No "oops i missed my input" or whatever bullshit. It's actually nuts how this isn't the standard.
>>739032678Nah most champions win with controller or lever
>>739032678They're pretty fun for fightan, and I've found my execution got a bit better after fucking around on them long enough compared to normal sticks. Leverless can be pretty cheap as well compared to normal sticks. The cheaper ones can use a convertor to play on PS5s if you do a lot of locals>>739033108>>739033156based hauteCHADsI'm still using my haute42 I got off Aliexpress years ago for peanuts from the official store without any real problems other than minor creaking if I twist it like an ape
>>739034715It is basically becoming standard. Every year it becomes more popular. Soon owning a leverless board will be as popular as owning a controller
>>7390347158 gate was never recommended if you wanted to get good for fighters. The advice was to never ride the gate.
>>739034715octogate is for korean tekken autists
Leverless is truly soulless. utilitarian efficiency above all else.Lever is fun, learning motion inputs is a challenge but enjoyable.Gamepad is more catered to than ever and motion inputs will become more and more niche in favour of simplified modern inputs.
>>739032678Just get a keyboard
>>739035921>learning motion inputs is a challengeit literally isn't it's the most intuitive think fucking imaginable you are literally just drawing shapes
>>739035921Learning the inputs takes five minutes. The only "challenging" part is getting them to come out in lag.
>>739035921Inputs are hard,no execution is.Even pretzels can be trivial after a while.
I like leverless because buttons are inherently the most fun kind of inputlevers are cool and all but if I can push more buttons instead I will. Leverless more than doubles my button presses per second.
>>739032678Levers are just more fun.
>>739032808>>739033108>No left handed option.Shame. I know the mixbox had one where the arrowkeys are on the right, it'd be similar to how I used to play X-men vs SF "online"/(Adobe) Flash conversion in the 1990's.
>>739035921>and motion inputs will become more and more niche in favour of simplified modern inputs.GOOD.You hoes always want to do HURR INPUT HARD gatekeeping: Well there you go, simple inputs. Now what are you going to whine about when people still don't want to play fighting games?
>>739032678You should steer far away from trannyboxesLest you wish to become one yourself
>>739033078LOL. don't get a fucking leverless. >>739033875Rapid fire over mech keyboard.A properly configured mouse.And what's your normal controler? I'd add a lightgun>>739033942This man is fueled by macho gang anal spiders.
>>739034121>>739034312High complexity games, and shit like 4x and civ type games use the numpad well.
Leverless are noob trapsAll the top pros use traditional arcade sticks with an extremely small percentage being leverless and controller users
>>739033975wasd + numpad is peak controls, atleast for 2D fighan, I don't like playan tekkek with KB>>739034121have you tried not being a troon?
gawd. when will the hitbox trend die?
You can sell those retards literally everything, huh
>>739033546if you think keyboard is better post your layout please, i wanna know
>>739044163WASD for movement numpad for buttons. Requires pretty wide keyboard though. Also keyboard is only for online play, you will be laughed out of your locals, nevermind big events, if you show up with keyboard and ask to hook it up to ps5.
>>739032768much harder to get console compatability and to take to offline events
>>739032678Good controllers for fighters but I feel like their usefulness is overblown. They got astroturfed to hell and back a few years ago and now that everyone has tried one people realize they don’t offer that much of an advantage if you’re already comfortable with pad/stick, especially after most games fixed that exploit that allowed you to press two directional buttons at once.
>>739043692it depends on the game, if you are playing ADHD tranny anime fighters then they are basically necessary now. pros only use fightsticks out of habit and preference in sf/tekken, even pad is technically better
>>739046598>especially after most games fixed that exploit that allowed you to press two directional buttons at onceWhat's the point of using leverless if you can't even cheat anymore
Playing with your fingers is OBJECTIVELY better than using your thumbs. Having to move your thumb over face buttons / a dpad is slower and less accurate than using your fingers.
>>739032678How are these for rhythm games? I use a Sayodevice for djmax.
>>739033614>Only keychron and wooting emulate a analogue gamepad and they cost way over hundred dollarsthat's because it's also a full fledged keyboard dumbass
