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I think Fallout 4 is a good game and anyone who doesn’t like it is just a dimwit who can’t think for himself
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its my favourite game to go around shootan shit but I need a gorillian mods to make it acceptable and I'm no longer capable of motivating myself to do that.
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>>739033248
Its fun if you mod it into a survival shooter.
I like roleplaying as a solo survivor, putting up a nice little base and not interacting with anybody.
Mods to make power armor rare and powerful but also take a shitload of power cores to use effectively are essential.

Sim Settlements is a great mod, but because of my focus on solo surviving it just never really fits into my ideal setup.
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>>739033248
If you ignore the shooting mechanics, VATS, running mechanics, leveling, story, setting, supporting characters, DLCs, and cram it full of sex mods a la Skyrim, yes, it is a good game.
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>>739033248
>story
absolutely awful. shawn and the institute are retarded and all of the factions are incredibly weak and are not written in a way where you want to help them
>content
game was missing a lot, some of the dlc is ok
>gunplay
mechanically, an improvement. however the gun selection is awful with pipe weapons being terrible and far too prevalent. some of the cool guns added in the dlc are downright broken and have yet to be fixed to this day. they should have brought back the crafted ammo types from New Vegas; it felt like you were actually strategizing and living in a wasteland having to break down other ammo for raw materials.
it’s not a terrible game but it’s not a very good game either
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>>739034429
It's still quite fun, especially with mods
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>>739033248
it's fun, the only people that hate it can't have fun with anything
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its just okay. skyrim is better. modded skyrim outright blows it out of the water, even if fallout 4 is also modded.
t. someone with 600 hours in modded fallout 4, 3000 in modded skyrim
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>>739034730
Modded Skyrim is worse than vanilla Skyrim.
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>>739034730
one has guns the other is sticks and magic. I typically wouldn’t compare the two
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>>739034730
Modded Skyrim suffers from the fact that no matter how many mods you pile onto it, its still a fucking 20 year old game which looks and plays like its 20 years old
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>>739033248
Fallout 4 is a game for dimwits you retard. Its why you have zero real options and base building. Its a game for retards, trannies and women. The gunplay is similar to an early COD title.
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>>739034802
I usually prefer fantasy, but Skyrim modders seem to turn everything into a Korean MMO, while Fallout 4 has plenty of perfectly fitting post-apocalyptic mods
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>>739034902
>The gunplay is similar to an early COD title.
so the only time it was good?
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>>739034936
meaning its outdated and should not be mentioned as a positive for the game.
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>>739034802
fair enough, but still fallout 4 lacks a lot of non combat features that would make it up to snuff imo. the world in 4 feels very small to me with few pois that are meaningful. hell there's like 6 buildings you can enter with just nothing in them at all, like that small book shop in boston or the pharmacy that has 1 stimpack and nothing else.
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>>739033248
Skyrim with guns
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I think OP is a gay retard.
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>>739035021
I agree. but I also dislike the combat in Skyrim and even with mods adding more animations or changing the perks trees and traits it still isn’t fun to me for some reason. I wish there was more balance between the two games
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>>739035056
>still no decent gun mods for skyrim
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>same engine as Skyrim
>no mod to turn melee into Skyrim's melee or better
>no mod to bring dragons
Fucking why???
>>739035154
There's a WWII mod for Skyrim that has guns working properly like guns but it turns the entire map into some world war II battleground with airplanes and stuff.
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>>739035021
It has more content density on the map than any other Bethesda game. It just feels worse because they’ve boarded up all the doors instead of cluttering them with debris or simply leaving them off map like they did in Fallout 3. Boston actually has a lot of interesting places that aren’t marked on the map or are even inaccessible without flying or jumping down from somewhere higher up. This verticality alone makes Fallout 4 more enjoyable to play than the completely linear and flat Skyrim or Fallout 3.
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>>739035251
>no mod to turn melee into Skyrim's melee or better
Why do you want that? Melee in Skyrim is literally worse.
>no mod to bring dragons
We’ll have to wait until someone ports one from F76, although NV will probably get it first
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>>739035257
>aren’t marked on the map or are even inaccessible without flying or jumping down
For me it's the scrapped player home on top of diamond city
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what's the lore reason behind the women of boston loving big deathclaw cock?
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>>739033248
If you don't treat it as an RPG then yes it's enjoyable
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>>739035448
RPG is an acronym not a definition with rigid rules
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>>739035332
Melee in F4 is abysmal dogshit so it would be a great improvement
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>>739033248
My main takeaway from playing Fallout 4 was that someone should make an entire game that's purely dedicated to the robot building mechanics where you go around junkyards collecting old robo-parts to upgrade your robots until you can afford to buy high-grade robot parts, and you mix and match them to make any kind of robot you want, big or small.

And also you can fuck them until their RAM burns out.
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>>739035517
The constant blocking is a bit of a pain, but otherwise it’s basically just Skyrim melee but with heavier swings and better animations. Unless, of course, you’re talking about those heavily modded Skyrim combat systems that have been turned into Dark Souls, which are even worse than vanilla Skyrim.
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>>739035540
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62255
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>>739035656
No. Just normal Skyrim.
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>>739036046
I really think you've got it all mixed up. In what way exactly do you think Skyrim melee is better than Fallout 4?
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>>739033248
New Vegas is better
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>>739036180
Yeah
Fallout 4 is still great and lately I've been preferring it because I've played New Vegas to death
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>>739035667
>flesh
BARF
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>>739036093
>can hold the block with right cursor
>can do directional attacks
>can dual wield
>faster swings
>less clunky
>heavy attack is just hold attack
>can use shields
Meanwhile in Fallout 4:
>can't hold block, it's just for a two seconds and nulifies all damages
>strong attack on bash key instead (awful alt default key)
>no dual wielding
>clunky and fails sometimes, not mentioning slow and less rewarding
>no directional attacks, just the same basic one

There's also the semi related fact Skyrim has bows and crossbows that could fit well in Fallout 4 post apocalyptic scenario but for some reason there isn't besides being the same engine.
It's like they choose to make the game dogshit on purpose
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>>739036806
Bows were probably left out in 4 to distance itself from TES
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>>739036806
>can hold the block
Which makes the gameplay more boring. One of the most popular mods that players install for combat in Skyrim is timed block.
>directional attacks
They add very little to Skyrim, given that it doesn’t have body parts or proper hitboxes. What’s more, Fallout 4 has directional attacks, they’re just only available in third-person for some reason.
>can dual wield
I’ve played for over a thousand hours and still haven’t got the hang of it. You get that one attack that’s impossible to land because you’re standing still, but apart from that, it’s no different from a standard 1h.
>faster swings
>less clunky
aka more floaty and less weighty
>Bows
Literally impossible to use because it messes up your mouse sensitivity.
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>>739037053
So your answer is skill issue and some say about a mod I never heard about. Have a nice day.
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>>739033248
terrible b8
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>>739033248
i have completed fallout 4 around 5 times and the game just ok, the story is shit, its bad for being a fallout game, its a bad rpg, and i dislike the garbage collector aspect of the game, but the gameplay is pretty good
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>>739033248
you can never convince me that half-assed jetsons art style and half-assed lore are good



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