I used to work on this project. The game was profitable. But canceled because those profits weren't gangbusters. Whatever. A shame,Here are some heroes that would have been released in 2021 and beyond:>Winston>Velen>Lei Shen>Tosh>Selendis>Kyle Vlaros>Mercy>Maghda>Aidan>Scorch>Lady Vashj>Baalthese are characters who all had character models, ability art and were in active development...They were even trying to get Superman from The Death and Return of Superman/Justice League Task Force, representing the sprite art from those. So with the mullet and all that.
Im surprised it made money at all.
>>739035185I miss HotS
>>739036175So do I, friend...
>>739036175except 4am is the same
>>739035185it was for the best. blizzard's infection has only gotten worse over the past decade. i can only imagine what kind of godawful dogshit would have been shoved into this game if it were kept alive.
>>739035185>ScorchWhat was this one?
>>739036175damn. pretty accurate to my life in 2017/2018. I had been playing HOTS well before that though, since 2014. But I def went through that hole. Makes me sick to think about. Hots was great tho
>>739035185The main issue of HOTS is that it came out too late, i mean MOBA market was already established by LoL and Dota 2 with some other mobas like SMITE.But well, HOTS made dynamic action paced gameplay right (Unlike LOL) and blizzard managed to give each hero unique vibe (and some heroes like cho'gal, deathwing, abathur had some crazy unique gimmick).Hots is pretty good but it just came out too late where people already invested their time(and momey) into other mobas.
>>739035185On one hand i am sad that blizzard higher ups abandoned hots. On the other hand, knowing that the next hero down the pipeline was another fucking overwatch crossover maybe it was okay after all.
OP is a faggot liar but someone who was a /hotsg/ og should post the table I haven't seen it in years
>>739036385From the TLV2.Basically a Murky type who could jump / hover over bushes/walls and spam fireballs and other pokes/buffs to harass enemies and help allies at objectives. Small health pool. Instead of mount could fast fly to anywhere on the battleground from spawn point but otherwise only run/jump/hover on the battlefield. https://youtu.be/ZiX9UmbWc9Q?t=106
>>739035185hots is probably the last good blizzard game it's crazy how fast blizzard imploded with/after overwatch
>>739036672Holy fuck I kept all iterations of those but built a new PC and didnt transfer any of them. Probably gone now.I can remember Archimonde, Blackthorne, Baal, Mengsk (in the monitor), Magatha the black Tauren bitch (shoehorned by the 1 fag who insisted upon it) and some others. God damn it maybe I have it on a laptop somewhere.
>>739035185Isn't Microsoft updating HotS?
>>739036302Blizzard is making a Starcraft extraction shooter, right?
they fucked up adding overwatch heroes that fantasy is too "real world"
Why no steam release?
>>739035185>But canceled because those profits weren't gangbusters.You banned me as an alpha tester because 4 brazilian faggots kept throwing games and then reporting me for it. Whatever happened to you was absolutely deserved.
>>739037271Microsoft is ran by dents and Indian Nepo babies.
>>739035185>missing out on BaalFUCKI want to slowly smother Blizzard upper management
>>739037209Maybe, extraction shooter can be kind of vague. It might be helldivers/warframe-like where it's just a mission, and you extract at the end, pve.
>>739037243Im not sure I understand but the cancer from Overwatch was that most of them could move while auto-attacking
>>739035185hots is great fun, i play it with a friend eventually. that said the laning phase design was never going to make itwhat a crime we lost tosh
>>739037421I wished they went back to the Battlefield Starcraft game. They cancelled it for OW2 and that game's PvE never happened.
>>739035185The fucking Overwatch heroes ruined the whole vibe of this game, all the heroes were grounded or at least serious about fighting, then these anime faggot retard psychopaths come in "Yippie!! Hooray!! I'm shooting people with my guns, so much fun, yay, murder!"absolute faggot shit deserved to die
MS should make this their crossover game.
>>739037421>>739035185Speaking of Extr-Shooter games, thoughts on this? Haven't seen a thread yet talk about it.
Blizz was sitting on a fortune but their faggotry kept it from them. All they needed to do was make slutty skins
>Lei Shendammit now I believe you
>>739038219It will bomb harder than Marathon.
>>739038360it will be funny if it rocks harder than Marathon showcasing their fan base to be just a bunch of bots and bought out libshills and reviewerhogs.
>>739038115youre literally only talking about Tracerand she's funwhat you should be complaining about is the OC like Qhira.
>>739038463Highly doubt it, still would laugh at the shills.
>>739038690There are no shills about it, so I'm predicting it doesn't need any. Its going through playtest-phase and release hopefully on a positive note.
>>739037535They should have made a Planetside clone.
I remember Artanis dueling niggers for years with 1HP and infinite shield
>>739035185They should have added Crash Bandicoot from Crash and Oscar Mike from Call of Duty.
Victory sex with Orphea
>>739036617Team experience was simply too gay.
>>739039286Call of Duty RTS was pitched but never made, not a bad idea.
>>739036175I still do ARAM with another total loser from time to time but I sure do miss hotsgAlso does anyone have the picture of the concept artist with all the coomer statues at his desk?
What's stopping Microsoft from restarting development, porting to consoles and adding new characters like Master Chief, the Dragonborn and Steve?
>>739039758Probably contracts and IP shit
I wish I could go back 10 years and play Abathur matches with my friend again
>>739039780They own all those studios and not doing anything with them. Todd Howard and 343 have no reason to object to the characters being in the game.
>>739035185>MercyWe already have Morales.
>>739035185Too bad the game is infested by no hands russians that think they are playing Dota or LoL
>>739039941It's not really that simple, individual projects can have licenses and agreements tied to them
>>739035185>these are characters who all had character models, ability art and were in active development...If this is true then maybe at some point some of them will be added if microsoft decides this game can get more life support
>>739040635>>739039941They could go the Smash Bros route. Coolest thing ever and ofc MS wouldn't do this.
And then you play the game and get a 21% win rate because the game shares your XP with Pedro who goes 0-20 every game and can’t stay on a target.Good concept but shit game.
>>739042000you're just bad at exploiting the pedro on the other team. in particular the secret to reaching the highest rank of nearly every team game is to figure out how to make the enemy team madder than your team.
>>739035185>try and check out the /vm/ thread>hasn't been a thing since the start of the yearW-what happened?
>>739041608did you even read my post
the overwatch champs were absolute powercreep, didn't bode well for the rest
>>739035185>Kyle VlarosThis alone makes me not believe youBUT I WANT TO BELIEVE
>>739039370No team xp would make heroes like TLV and Abathur substantially less interesting since double/triple soaking and allowing your team to deathball are some of their cooler traits
>>739042141This, if you are not identifying the weakest link in every game and stepping on their dick what is the point
I missOpening treasure chests on the pirate mapDunking on fools with ChenPlaying absolutely unsafe with Kharazim because I can just dash awayBeing an actual good Valla player Hating all Valeera and illidan players because they are just stupid subhuman potheads 95% of the timePinging the shit out of the map because the enemy team is grouped and my team is spread across the map and firmly in lala landWatching smug Li Ming players die, even the one on my teamAssisting a friendly tank who has perfect timing and positioning and just steamrolls the enemy for 15 mins straightI truly hated some of the community while loving the game itself. I havent played any team ranked in any game since.
Lost Vikings master race
>>739035185>Another annoying ass Overwatch Hero to bounce all over the placeGenji and friends made the game insufferable for months.
>>739035185>>739036175>>739036617>>739037453>>739042141The problem with HOTS is how snowbally it is. If you didn't have a fully competent team who could contest objectives, it didn't even matter if you were winning lane or keeping up in XP, if they won first objective they got a huge advantage for the second objective, which by then it was basically over. Also overwatch heroes ruined the game but we all know that
>got chat banned again for calling all naz players niggersI hate them so much
Still mad they never got Anub'arak's original voice actor back (Steve Blum), despite him already doing multiple voices in HotS.
>next to no RNG>mounts>shared EXP>supports that actually support>characters all feel unique thanks to traits>no shopping aids>talents that actually change your character>status effects that are consistent and easy to understand>armor is simply a flat percentage damage reduction>different maps with different objectives>animations that have soul>all abilities (except ult) at level 1>12-18 minute gamesHOTS is the best ASSFAGGOTS and the last good bame Blizzard made.
>>739035185>I used to work on this projectI'll humor your larp:why was the gameplay designed to be so shallow, why were the kit/talents designed so poorly that they had to be reworked every week, and why the fuck were iconic characters like cairn, voljin, kiljaden or archimonde to only name them never released while we got some nigger oc instead?
>>739035185Easily the best moba, but they added too many obnoxious characters over time. The original roster was better than what it is now. At a minimum, get rid of the Overwatch characters and the random african woman and the game would drastically improve.
>>739035185who the fuck is tosh?>>739044549dawngate was the best one. teamwide xp in hots fucking sucked it was impossible to carry and come back if your team was brain dead
>add Valeera>plays like a Classic WoW rogue>funnest shit ever>ruin it soon after with the Stealth nerf>add the best Rogue set afterwardsFuck you, Blizzard.
>>739044721>it was impossible to carry and come back if your team was brain deadGood. It's a team game. Depending on a single player is dogshit game design.
>>739036672>>739036834Might be a variant #5778568762, but it's "The Table" nonethelessMight drop some other /hotsg/ certified pics if i find them
>>739045293An older variant. I recall saving "the original", but by now it's buried under thousands of other memes and shitposts with an unrelated filename
why dont we have a /vm/ general since /hotsg/ died?
>>739042152Because people stopped responding>>739044721Nigga ghost from sc2 campaign>>739045625Because the /vm/ one died as well
ALLACCORDINGTO PLAN
>>739035185>I USED TO WORK AT BLIZZARD BTWand what dogwater indie game are you here to share with us today?
>>739045991Based Whitemane simp
>>739038501real>she's at 1%hp>ooga booga bix nood witchdocta zip tie elongate>heals completely to fullorphea is the same flavors of bullshit
>>739038501But everyone loved Orphea
>>739046079Orphea is really easy to shut down, all her abilities are skill shots on a delay
>>739035185>They were even trying to get SupermanDodged a bullet.
>>739046103Orphea has a good design and at least is tied to the lore/story of the Nexus. I'd rather have a proper Blizzard character but Orphea should've been the gold standard for 'OCs' in HotS; Qhira doesn't even remotely fit.
>>739046079I don't understand how you fags can complain about orphea in earnest.She has heavily telegraphed attacks that you can just walk away from.How are you getting shit on by abilities that takes a full second to fire?
>>739046283you're ignoring the existence of 4 other enemy players
>>739046308Just like you're ignoring the existence of 5 other enemy players.
>>739035185but did you work there for 7 years?
>>739046337not really, i'm factoring in that it's a team game where she shinesyou're an orphea player aren't you?
>>739045089no it means you were stuck in a game for 25+ minutes with no way to win 50% of the time because your team is dogshit and doesn't know how to take space from a losing position. Individuals that are playing better and providing more team xp should have a way leverage that into advantages for the team >>739045867>Nigga ghost from sc2 campaignwhat is that supposed to mean i guess?This game isn't bad but the people made it insufferable. No one played the objective, and like 25% of people knew how their characters worked or what they were supposed to be doing to help the team.
>>739043576>>739036617The main issue with HOTS is korea was actually excited to pick it up and drop league then blizzard decided to not update it for more than a year after release killing the game's momentum and population.
>>739046358>pls engage with me in this imaginary teamfightWe're not doing this.
>>739046252She was supposed to have a map introduce her but it got canned
>teammate takes a quest talent that stacks with hero hits>stays "soaking" all game and never engages with enemy>Doesn't reach even the gimme threshold of stacks
>>739046308Then you must have got hit by every Chromie attack ever done
>>739035185>>MaghdaLARPIt's Magtha
>>739035185> Kyle VlarosI don’t believe you
>>739046687It's Magatha, you uncultured swine.
>>739046439>what is that supposed to mean i guess?He is a ghost (the starcraft kind, .ike Nova)He is a nigga (self-explanatory)He is from sc2 campaign (more specifically Wing of Liberty)I don't know how to make it simpler
>>739046687From Diablo 3 anonWho the fuck is Magtha?
>>739046801If they gave him Qhigger's kit and said he stole a secret weapon it would be based
>>739046439>because your team is dogshit Then you deserve to lose you fucking retard.>Individuals that are playing better and providing more team xp should have a way leverage that into advantages for the teamYou're applying principles from inferior MOBAs to HOTS. Having 1 star player and 4 withered wojaks supporting that one person is garbage design. In HOTS everyone contributes, everyone is having fun.Having 5 players each contributing properly to the team is objectively better design. If you want the LoL / DotA dogshit design go play those inferior games.
>>739046801>He is a ghost (the starcraft kind, .ike Nova)>He is a nigga (self-explanatory)i'm actually fucking retarded.I misread it as "nigga, ghost from sc2" thanks anon
Abathur is the best designed ASSFAGGOTS character. Change my mind.
>>739046871Statement reasonable.Without flaws.Agreed.
>>739046439>no it means you were stuck in a game for 25+ minutesThat's considered a very long game. Often they end before the 20 min mark or even 15> with no way to win 50% of the timeOther ASSFAGGOTS make sure one team snowballs and you have no way of winning 90% of the time + you are held hostage for up to an hour
>>739046801The bants between him and Nova would be great
>>739046847>In HOTS everyone contributes, everyone is having fun.they don't contribute though. evidenced by the fact that they removed that map with the underground mine. no one ever comes to the objectives on that map with that raven that makes your minions 1hp.I know plenty of people not having fun playign this game
i always wanted rock n roll racer who played legally distinct midi versions of highway star and paranoid
>>739046957>they don't contribute thoughThey do or you lose you brain damaged retard. >evidenced by the fact that they removed that map with the underground mine.It's literally in the game right now you fucking retard. >no one ever comes to the objectives on that map with that raven that makes your minions 1hp.Yes they do you brain damaged retard.>I know plenty of people not having fun playign this gameName them.
>>739046957they recently brought that map back actually
>>739046957They removed that map because it was literally better to not interact with the objective and just push. Going down was griefing and it was buggy too
>>739046913>Other ASSFAGGOTS make sure one team snowballs and you have no way of winning 90% of the time + you are held hostage for up to an hourhard disagree. Dota lets you buy extension items to make you overpowered if you're making more gold than the enemies, you can buy items and drop them for your team.In league you're noticeably stronger if you're up in gold and levels and playing better than the opponent. you have more opportunities to affect the game
>>739046526retard
>>739047017I don't play shit games so i wouldn't know
>>739047092And yet here you are, getting gaped because you're incapable of giving a counter-argument.You have shit taste and shit arguments. You lot.
>>739047057AKA 1 team snowballs out of control and you are stuck in a near unwinnable game. There's nothing you can do if an enemy goes 7/0 in 5 min. In hots it gives you an edge to be ahead but you have to capitalize on it or the enemy can turn the game around at almost any point
>>739047057HOTS objectively has the least snowballing in the genre because of team exp and talents.
>>739035185Players hated Overwatch characters. They were OP and destroyed the game. All Mobas die out sooner or later because of the character creep. Hots was just in the sooner category.
>>739047121you seem mad. idc if you like this game have fun in your maintenance mode assfaggot hopefully it turns around for your playerbase. i'm sure this attitude really helped bring a ton of players
>>739047219Hots died when they removed tower ammo and turned specialists into weaker mages. A quarter of the roster became near useless overnight
>>739047241Yep, now you're lashing out because you have no counter-argument. Keep barking, mutt.
>>739047058>nooo you have to engage with meYou're one lonely little faggot aren't ya.
>quit long time ago>every now and then reinstall and play for a day>immediately remember why i left in the first placeThe game was most fun before 2.0 update, they were still in their wacky shit phase. Now its just dull
>>739047241It was only put into maintenence mode because a certain CEO wasn't getting phar e-sports money from it
>>739046957They removed it because it was buggy
>>739047391Nah, it was best right after 2.0
>>739047391Blizzard in a nutshell. Make a game for fun then rape it trying too hard to make it competitively balanced.
Only moba I ever liked, especially in 2015 and 16 when my friends played as well. Stopped playing in mid 2017 after the 2.0 ‘update’ came out which was just an excuse to put loot boxes in the game. Thing that really left a bad taste in my mouth was all Master skins for characters getting relegated to rares in said boxes which was basically a ‘fuck you’ to people who bought the Master skins for 10,000 gold. But none of that will ever diminish the fun I did have with my Race Car Tassadar build. Sucked early game, was decent in the mid game and was unstoppable in the late game.
>>739047636Eh?I don’t think they ever tried to balance it hugelyThe game was just full of overpowered heroes from the get goThat was one of the things that made it so great
post the new thrall skin
>>739047772Really?I found it was extremely easy to get all the good skins and unlock all the characters without spending a single dollar after 2.0The drops were extremely rewarding to people that actually played
>>739035185>MercyHow would you make her any different from Medic/Morales and Auriel? All her gimmicks are already in game.
>>739047952anon they tried to force esports in this game HARD, and it failed, same as overwatch, but oiverwatch was big enough to warrant still supporting after it failed
>>739036175Filthy LiLi player
>>739048071I refuse to play lili after they haged her up in worlo
>>739048110who the fuck cares about what happens in wow?!
>>739048021New? They're still adding skins?
>>739045645I love my nigga Leoric like you wouldn't believe>Double soak easily so my retarded team can do whatever they do>Ganked? Just press E and moonwalk away>Entomb the faggot assassin that tries to flee and watch them run in panick like a cornered rat>Pick AA talents at level 13 and 16 and become an unkillable duelliste
>>739048029Loot boxes were one of my main issues with how much useless shit they put in them (never liked loot boxes in any games desu), but power creep was another one. On the whole the game just felt ‘off’ after the 2.0 update but I found that happens at some point with every online game.
>>739045991IMUSTFEED
>>739048282yethey're being made by the lone janitor left working at the hots office it seems
>>739044513Union rules are a weird and fickle mistress
>>739048348Ah, so just like Quake Champions. Guess I'll boot up the game and see what's new (to me).
what is it with blizzslop and this fucking brain disease that causes its cultists to pretend their personal wishlists are leaks or cancelled features
>>739048326You say that but I still think these were the only loot boxes in a game I’ve played that regularly dropped all the best skinsAs for the power creep, everyone being overpowered in some way is just fun to me, it’s why party composition is more important than individual picks
>>739035185shame hots was the best moba game imo, no equipment just nonstop battle and you weren't too badly screwed by your teammates being utter garbage. the objectives map was also really fun because there were some characters that were borderline game breaking on certain maps.
>>739047260They still have incredible waveclear and push power.
>>739048432I’d say the HotS team, before the reshuffle of devs, was the last actual Blizzard team that was based and cared
>>739048393>Quake ChampionsDamn, why did you have to remind meI somewhat recently came across some articles online saying how there were already a bunch of Q3 characters in development (Xaero, Klesk, Uriel) before the game got axedWhy must everything I like get shelved...
>>739048058It wasn't made with esports in mind, that was an order from above once they saw people liked the game
I always loved the cross-ip skins.
>>739043576otherway around imo the exp mechanic kept you in the game no matter how shit someone on your team was. at best they'd drag your team down by maybe half a level. it was a great casual game, the objectives didn't even snowball that hard because most maps were things you could get normally it just accelerated it. mainly damage to towers/forts.
>>739043576I hated more the fact the way exp and respawning works late game. You could be stomping the whole game, but lose one fight after 20 mins and you could lose the game, with no way to respawn
>>739044721>teamwide xp in hots fucking sucked it was impossible to carry and come back if your team was brain deadand on the upside it was borderline impossible to sabotage your team and completely ruin everything by being utter shit unlike other moba games.No one likes playing ranked crap anymore that's why arena and ARAM is so popular on league
>>739036791>hots is probably the last good blizzard game Wrong. Starcraft was the last good Blizzard game.
>>739047219playing hots is like playing league back when eve and twitch had 60 second stealths and the game was actually fun. OW characters included.also fuck the retarded genji players in both games I'm not healing you.
>>739047219Honestly, this was just every character for a week or two after introduction, then they got nerfed
>>739049220>a weekI wish it was only a week until they nerf bat came out.
>>739048574humina humina
>>739049408That voice too, I can't believe they just made her Azula, so good
>>739049480If there's one thing I'll credit D3 for, it's this.
>browsing through all the new shit added since I last played>Tristram, Orgrimmar, WC2 music, SC music, etc playing in background
>>739046801erm actually hes a spectre not a ghost
>>739050874shut up, pedanticat
>>739037147>Updating>"We call these Mythic Talents, are are rebalancing all your favorite heroes around them, and have no tested them at all, nor will listen to any feedback.""See? HotS is alive!"I dropped HotS after playing it its entire lifetime when they proved that they have no idea what they're doing anymore. While it was fun to have Thrall auto-attack for a literal thousand or more damage, when they don't address it in three patches, and instead gut Deathwing and dumb him down at the same time, it was time to move on and play other genres. The last good MOBA died with a whimper, smothering itself in its sleep.
The only problem for me was how OP a good zerg tumor thing was
>>739036175I would still be playing it if I wasn't banned
>>739053027AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>739036672>>739039407>>739045625>>739045293Man, I miss /hotsg/ something fierce.Somehow, we weren't autistic enough to survive in /vg/, and we were pretty fucking autistic. I should know. I was a writefag.
for me, it's Whitemane
>>739048574>>739049408>>739049480>>739049712Ming has that bitchy energy in her that just makes you want to hold her down and dick her roughly.
>>739053432That's Blackmane.
>>739043576Blizzard just wanted that sweet cybersport money and popularity when HotS was just a casual game you play for fun.
>>739051231I love that my dumb little TF2 Comic edit still gets posted.>2017Has it been that long?
>>739053432
Man, I miss people posting Li-Li smut and panda cunny. I'll need to remember who that artist is. He did a fuckton of Li-Li art.>>739053716I made sure to save that one when I built my new computer. It's always got a spot in my reaction folder.
>one chance of blackthorn to resurface>it died>the game got some OC donut steels for some reason
>>739053840Dogyd
>>739053920Blackthorn would never have come back, anon.Blizzard is literally unwilling to make a PvE focused single player experience.
Malthael status?
>>739053840Here have the Protoss Templar yellow version. The brown one was the first edit of it I believe. /hotsg/ said it should be yellow or something. I don't fucking remember.The panda artist's name escapes my name too. His art gets posted a lot in the /trash/ MMO threads. I think it starts with a G.
>>739053920We could’ve got a full version of this Terran ass songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OelcuRo5_EQ
> Carries a coffin> Kills the game
>>739053967>2 minutes and 39 secondsThrough dick, unity, I guess. I was just shitposting, but you went above and beyond and breakneck speed.
Lili is now older and FATalso, who were your favorite heroes to use?In no order>Tassadizzle>Chen>Lili>ETC>Dehaka>Lost Vikings
>>739054157At that point HotS was on life support already.
>>739038501Nigger and Orphea were the final straws for a lot of people. Myself included. Orphea invalidated 70% of the roster and Qhira did the same to 90% of what was left.
>>739054208
>>739054338>Orphea invalidated 70% of the rosterWeird because she's far from being the best mage in the game. In fact, she never was.
>>739054208>Abathur>Rexxar>Artanis>Imperius>Deathwing>Alarak>Uther>Lt. MoralesThe evolutionary haberdasher and the good doctor being the odd ones out.
>>739054157>>739054338>Orphea clearly flirts with (You)>she's clearly supposed to look NOT like an adult>her voice is an adult woman's, or at least a much older teenager's voiceRarely has a vidya made me as uncomfortable as playing Orph.
>>739054208>Medivh (all time favorite)>Abathur>Zul'jin>Alarak>Cho'gall (not with randoms)>Gazlowe>Kel'thuzad
>>739054157look at her go!
>>739054338Orphea was the second most balanced hero on release. First one being anduin. The final straw was the announcement that came a few days later which said hots esports is kill while making it sound like the game is kill too. Qhira was not only annoying as a character and a hero but 1 week after blizzcon and the 365 day boosts blizzard said they wont be making anything new for the game
>>739054470why contain it?
What is crazy about HotS is that the game got LOTS of players still, especially considering that the game is on life-support.It's so crazy to me all these companies spend so much money on live service crap, but nobody is trying to make a new Moba game despite these games are some of the most popular PC games.>b-but a shitty company made a budget moba game that failed 20 years ago so it doesn't work!
>>739054338Orphea is alright she is a melee mage and all her spells are skillshots, if she misses she does 0 damage. Qhira on the otherhand has two gap closers, damage over time, and a silence
What has Samwise Didier been working on since Blizzard stopped supporting HotS? Is he just "retired" like Metzen was?
>>739054608>Qhira on the otherhand has two gap closers, damage over time, and a silenceAnd a lay on hands as a basic ability and becomes untargetable and can knock you back
>>739054439>>739054470>>739054485>>739054608>arguing that the last 2 heroes released in a moba didnt kill it>when the moba is completely deadYou are arguing a position that has been proven wrong by the death of the game. Orphea and Qhira killed HotS. You can never prove me wrong because the game completely died after their release, as a direct result of their kits.>muh escortsCompletely irrelevant. Orphea and Qhira were so insufferable to play against that they killed QM, the by far most played queue mode.
I liked Tassadar and Abathur. If I needed to okay something core, id play Artanis or Diablo.
>>739054693he was working on a survival game that got canceled
>>739054693He left Blizzard.Does ABCs with Samwise on Youtube.
>>739054862>as a direct result of their kits.this is where you're wrong. the game died when they L I T E R A L L Y said they're putting the game on life support>quick memelmao
>>739035185>>739036175Yah, unfortunately I don't think blizzard would even glance at the game again unless it suddenly started showing numbers.Maybe if people put together what the other dead game community have tried, where they make a community revival day and spread the word for everyone to log on and play again. That can sometimes gain the attention of companies to start developing again. I'm not the kind of person to organize that, but I'd definitely log in again if others did.
>>739054608>Largest melee autoattack range in the game>Mild damage ranged spell>Stackable DoT>Self heal and burst damage>Ranged stun, invulnerability, gap closer, second stun>Long ranged execution>Area of effect stun and damage>And a get-out of jail free card on her D that can also be a gap closerShe just does everything and remains a bit overpowered.I love playing her and think she's just fun to play in addition to being really solid, but I need to just ignore her every time she opens her fucking mouth.
>>739054208>also, who were your favorite heroes to use?Orphea at the topHanzoAlarakSylvanasZagaraStukovMurky
>dps tries to jump you>turn around and back hand him for half his healthgame has some kino healers
>>739055119I've come to say goodnight
>>739055119>300 damage AA at lvl 1I love him.
>>739054964>n-nuh uh...Orphea was a completely undiveable mage. Her entire kit punished you for either getting near her or letting her near you. This meant every melee except Greymane and a Grubby level Samuro couldnt touch her without being immediately forced into a damage race against a mage that was near impossible to catch thanks to having a talent that ripped off Blink and that punished you for getting in close range. Qhira fucking obliterated most melee heroes and could dive every mage in the game including Orphea with absolute impunity. Orphea and Qhira killed HotS. Just accept it and stop defending it.
>>739054862It was on its way out well before the OCs got added, they were just the proof that it really was wrapping up.
i was fond of gaz and tassadar until they reworked both to be les interesting
>>739055175yes im sure orphea's kit caused blizzard to pull all funding from the game and pronounce the game dead 1 week after qhira launchedthis was obviously the last 2 heroes faultretard
>>739055060SamuroAlarakKael'thasUtherArthasArtanisThrall
>>739055119>When Tracer comes close to press W>When Tracer immediate realizes that her having 40% health is not enough to be doing that shit to Alexi goddamn StukovAlways a good time.
>>739054208>Wifemane>Abathur>Azmodunk (If you picked ANYTHING but Hero hits you're a fucking loser)>Orphea>Garrosh (All I would do is max my throw and try throw enemies into my towers)
>>739055060https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ut4FdF_2nEArt.
>>739054208My full roster and their levels. People would underestimate Murky so bad and it was great.
>>739055119I just love HotS Healers. They are fun to play instead of being boring heal bots.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVYYMdDd14E
>>739055439I love eggcamping murkies as valeera
>>739055175>Orphea was a completely undiveable mage.Orphea's abilities take almost a full second to cast. If you can't sidestep her you shuold just stop playing. She relies on her tank/bruiser to lock or slow down a target to burst them.
>>739055439>People would underestimate Murky so bad and it was great.>Deathwing trying to 1v1 me as a lvl 20 Slime quest MurkyThey are always so confident and then you see then panicking when they reach 30% HP and you are still full HP
>>739035185I played it yesterday. It's a genuinely good game. I love how big team fights when the game starts is basically the meta.
>>739055525>muh cast timeMovement speed is not high enough to outrangr her attacks if you are in melee range.Also, nigger, did you ever get hit by anything Chromie cast even once? Chromie had the exact same startup on every single one of her abilities as Orphea and I guarantee you took that shit to the head all the time so shut up with this>just dodge foreheadRetardation. You sound like you got an extra chromosome.
>>739055479Sweet. You would have spent the entire game doing nothing then. See, you've already fallen into the Murky trap. He's in your head, dominating your attention, and you assume you'll get lots of easy kills on him.I'm typically a Living the Dream Bubble Murky. I often went entire games without dying, while still maxing out my team's xp and showing up to the big fights at a crucial moment when the enemy least expects it.So by all means, camp the egg. It's really just there as a formality.
>>739054208My Gall will forever be a goldlet because none of my friends want to play the game
>I kinda want to play hots again>check Steam>it's not there>oh well>*one year later*>I kinda want to play hots again>check Steam...
>>739055584You should never 1v1 Murky to begin with, especially at level 20.There are, quite literally, bigger fish to fry, no matter how fucking annoying he is.
>>739053993I mean as in being hero in HotS, I know blizzard would never make anything like blackthorn ever again
>>739055654>kill murky>soak xp>go back to kill murky agianas valeera you can spawnkill him before he has a chance to do anything
>>739055646Chromie is safe sandblasting you from a mile away. Orphea has to hug you to deal damage.
>>739042931based TLVchad
>>739055814chormie poke does nothing but pad hero damage done
>>739035185You don't have to lie like that to make a HotS threadGod I miss Chromie though. Before they reworked her to not be a hero-sniping artillery piece she was the most fun BS ever.Coincidentally I think that was right before the push to officially make her trans hit too. Fuck why couldn't they just accept she had a quirky name and invent some new character to display their virtue signal whoringAfter that I was all in on Zul'jin and Gul'dan until I slowly stopped playing
>>739054560>nobody is trying to make a new Moba gamevalve is making a new onedeadlock is a moba
I still play regularly with my friends. Shit's fun sometimes
>>739055584They just can't help themselves. They have to chase the Murk, and it doesn't go well for them.
>>739055878>600 damage from Q every few seconds is nothing
>>739055814Chromie can also sandblast you at point blank.>orphea has to hug you to deal damageNigger can you fucking read? What part of>>739055175>Her entire kit punished you for either getting near her or letting her near you. This meant every melee except Greymane and a Grubby level Samuro couldnt touch her without being immediately forced into a damage race against a mage that was near impossible to catch thanks to having a talent that ripped off Blink and that punished you for getting in close rangeIs a mystery to your retarded black ass?
>>739055912>sweet baby inc woke gameYeah I was talking about a real game and not a woke project that will be abandoned like all other valve projects
>>739055646If Orphea is as busted as you she'd be top pick/top winrate. Except no, the best mages are KT and Ming, always were, always will be. And you know why? Because they are ranged, and their abilities don't get interrupted, unlike Orphea.
>>739055982lol
>>739055732Keep dreaming pal.
>>739056003>pick rates>in a dead gameNot the point you think it is, chief.
>>739056081She was never top tier even at her release.
>>739053114Zagara?
>>739056118>pick rates>in a dead gameNOT THE POINT YOU THINK IT IS, CHIEF.
>>739042320Blackthorne was confirmed to be in development ny multiple devs
>>739055119>Hots didn't add DuranDamn
>>739035185I stopped playing right before they introduced Alex, which is a shame.Is the game still playable and or mildly good?Also I was mostly a heal main, are my girls Morales and Auriel still good? How about my aggression healers rehgar and Khara?
The cryptlord moped, "I just don't knowww how to talk to herrr.""Anub, you never know unless you try. I mean, you're not a bad catch, so what's the worry?""Becauuuse Arthas, she's farrr more popularrr than me! I can't jussst talk to herrr..."The young prince steepled his hands. "It's just... talking. You talk to people all the time!""I don't talk to aaanyone like herrr!" Anub'arak skittered across the mid-lane at a frantic pace."Oh come ON, Anub! How bad can it be?"The scratching on the tiles stopped after he faced his friend, "It's not just herrr, it's her tag alooongs!"The prince peeked around the hallway corner. There she was, and she had her posse. A crew of hydralisks, roaches, and a mutalisk.Something needed to happen before the match ended. A vague semblance of a plan started to form. "Anub. Do you know what you are?""A pitiful wor-""No!" Arthas clasped his shoulder chitin and flashed him a mad smile. "You're a love bug."The prince dashed out from the brush at a full sprint, let out a furious battle cry, and body-checked the mutalisk out of the air. The mob pursued him as fast as possible in the icy trail he left behind him, leaving their queen bee behind.Despite a combination of terror, anger, and empathetic embarrassment, Anub knew this was no time to freeze, and skittered up to the bewildered object of his affection. "H-Hello. Hi. I, um, like what you've donnne with your chitinnn."Zagara brushed the coils at the back of her skull-plate, then started twirling one around her finger, nervously. "Thank you. I like your wings."There was a raucous cry from the far end of the lane, punctuated by the laughter of royalty."Your friend?"The Nerubian looked away as he nodded an affirmative.Zagara's legs clattered as she tried to look above the crowd that was forming. "Is he always like that?"Anub skittered closer to walk beside her. "Only whennn it's very imporrrtant.""Oh." Zagara brought a claw to her mouth "Am...I that important?""Indubitably."
>>739056067unless they build defensively (around me) they die in a single combo. no chasing required. after you kill them for the third time in the past 60 seconds they start bubbling on spawn and still die as soon as the bubble expiresif they keep dying the enemy has a dead pickif the enemy dedicates a second person to me I can always disengage while my team has the advantageif the murky gets away during this his egg is now in mothers pussy so he has to run even more after I instakill himand when he tries to change lanes I can follow him around and he starts running away to a different lane again being useless while I roam the lanes helping
>>739054208Alexstraza, Naz, Tass, Aurierl and Nova probably
>>739056228game's perfecty playable in EU (dunno about NA but probably also fine) outside of the highest ranked divisionsAuriel and Rehgar are great, Khara is fine and Morales exists
>>739056389Nah it has even more xiaos and ziggers
>>739055119>Beats your ass with blinds and short CD on healing
>>739056463>blinds >blind s >plural
>>739056228You missed out on some of the best time for HotS, but it's still mostly the same.Morales is one of my go-to options and Auriel was pretty meta last time I played a few months ago.
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>>739054208Looks like a default panda
as always /v/ keeps validating just how bad they are at video games. So many clear low elo quick match takes in here. Opinions that just boil down to: I don't like this character personally so they're OP/Bad/Killed the game whereas the mechanical reality is completely divorced from this schizo worldview
>>739054208- Whitemane- Varian- Jaina- Lucio is boring but still "secure" choice when I cant pick wm- Anduin- Chad Uther- Artanis
>>739056504Yeah, she just throws out one blind after another
>>739035185Who is the Janitor that even works on the game now as side hustle? >Mercy>Winston I'm not going to lie, Overwatch and consecutive original heroes for the "epic lore". I don't give a fuck about loli or niggress and most all Overwatch heroes aside from Zarya are unfun to play against.
>739057306>begging for (You)s>doesnt get (You)sMany such cases.
Are they going to revive this at some point or something?
>>739036617>The main issue of HOTS is that it came out too latefuck no, HOTS was fucking PERFECT for casual fun, but no, Blizz wanted ESPORTS ESPORTS ESPORTS fuck them.
>>739057621>most all Overwatch heroes aside from Zarya are unfun to play againstMost of them are extremely easy to counter
Tassadar was more fun with his support kit
>>739057917I don't care, I hate zooming faggot Genji and his always backline wall jump brother Hanzo.
>>739057949support tass was definitely a meme hero, but ass tass is both fun and actually good
>>739057949every rework made characters less fun. I'm not saying they were bad reworks, some of them made characters more viable or maybe helped the over all balance of the game. However they all made the characters less fun every single fucking time.
I miss this game and I miss playing my main.
>>739058158i will never forgive blizzard for the gazlowe rework
>>739039758moba is a dying genre, it's heyday is over, and there isn't as much money to be made.
>>739058073>he never learned to play Raynor or Chen to deal with Genji or Hanzo
Sphere Asmodan was more fan pre-rework.
>>739054208>Varian>Johanna>Malthael>MalGanis>Artanis>GazI played a fuckton and have even more than these lvl 50+Alpha Gaz was kino, they fucked him with the rework because brainlets didnt know how to do alpha gaz wombocombo
Went back to play recently and they changed Garden of Terror where you no longer collect seeds but instead channel the obj and you cant pilot the terrors anymore, they just become mobs in the lane. Wtf why?
>>739054208>top 5 enjoymentMedivhGarryBlazeKaeland shamefully, Spamrat. I hate overwatch, I hate junkrat in overwatch, I think his kit is bullshit and unfun to play against, but I play him a lot because I just want to chill sometimes and his kit is so retarded that I can be a mile away and still kill people.>top 5 playedthis is tainted by only playing aram for 3 years, butMedivhJunkratVarianKaelNazeebo
>>739058492probably because they added the Volskaya Overwatch map which also featured the objective that uses a big pilotable boss, and they didn't want to repeat themselves
>>739035185HotS died because character designs were incongruent with each other (seriously, shoving in multiple IPs only appeals to blizzard fans who like them all and play all their games)and it wasn't autistic enough to be seen as a game to invest in for e-peen aka a party game.That said, personally, the game felt great to play but you felt hollow after playing it, like you weren't doing anything with your life(sort of realistic) and that's a feeling you don't want to have after spending hours on a video game. It was sort of like eating McDonald's, you felt like you hadn't eaten anything and wanted to stuff your face with more, and that's a really bad feel to have. Even in OW, you felt like you accomplished something(maybe because you saw that XP bar fill up after every match) even if the matchmaking system made sure you'd win because it was your turn to win after losing many times. The character designs in HotS were really good though, probably best in the industry at the time and for quite a while after. The issue is, again, the break in universe congruence. When you're playing Uther and smashing stuff with your hammer and you see Tracer teleporting around shooting people with guns, something feels seriously off. In the beginning when it was only Warcraft/Diablo/SC characters, it was still weird but manageable, however with time passing, it became increasingly weird to see characters that have no place being in the same space interacting. It's like seeing Superman getting killed by Buggs Bunny, silly stuff all around, and the unspoken contract between the audience and game devs is that the audience has to take the game seriously at some level, otherwise the spell breaks and you're back sitting in front of a screen when you should probably be doing something else that's more useful to you.tl;dr good albeit simplistic gameplay, great character designs/interpretations, bad everything else, should have been a new IP with new characters
>>739058678>character designs were incongruent with each otherHow? When HotS came out Diablo, WoW, and Starcraft had very unified in design.
>>739054208>Muradin>Johanna>Leoric>Auriel>Probius
>>739035185such a sad game to not see continued, i think its legitimately the only MOBA doing interesting stuff like Cho Gal or whoever the two headed ogre was, and Abathur.as supposed to every hero being "i press ability. if it hits, it deals damage. my passive lets me deal more damage."
>>739057949Oh, they changed him? Used to love playing him.
There wasn't enough players in ranked to sustain a good competitive scene and when you get more and more players eventually quitting the ranks are too diluted and even masters game feels like ass because the skill gap is too wide between players.It doesn't matter if the game was profitable if the playerbase was dwindling as well.It doest just after ranked mode but quick match suffered as well. If you queued in EU QM at high MMR at 5pm you'd meet me and the same 20 other guys in the game pool on repeat.
>>739058879Oh and that was mid 2018 so even before the game entered maintenance mode
>>739058585But dragon lord is also pilotableAnd all 3 maps coexisted at one point where you piloted the obj
>>739058678>in universe congruenceSmash is one of the biggest games of all time and no one gives a shit about in universe congruence. Everyone is aware that this is just blizzard's version of Smash but as a moba; most characters reference this and joke about this a lot. Thrall breaks the fourth wall as Metzen and even jokes "I didn't approve any of this".>Like you weren't doign anything with your lifeThat's true for every video game and moba's in particular which are seen as just under MMOs in terms of "life wasters".
Abby was fun to play and felt good when you won, but man how those games would sometimes feel like a 1v9 when you were losing and your team auto blames you.
>>739058971idk I'm just spitballing, I don't understand the change as well
>>739042141I would shit on you. Go play in your baby 5 man discord faggot.
>>739054208Not a lot of love for deckard cain in these posts.
>>739058759>How?>very unified in design.Design style, yes. But because characters come from different IPs, which are basically different universes, they do not mesh with each other, not like DotA2 and League characters do.It's one of the main reasons why the Justice League cartoon series had Batman be either retardedly smart or not present. You can't put Batman and Superman/Wonderwoman in the same picture without some serious mental gymnastics. >>739059031>smashYou mean the party game with chibi like designs of characters played by autists who don't give a damn about anything else but bing bing wahooing? which has no cultural presence? just like HotS?>Everyone is aware that this is just blizzard's version of SmashAnd they're so fucking aware that they checked out because if they want to play a paladin, they play WoW, if they wanna play a barbarian, they play diablo and if they wanna play Tracer, they play fucking OW. CREATE A NEW FUCKING IP AND EXPERIENCE FOR YOUR AUDIENCE, DON'T COPY PASTE SHIT FROM YOUR OTHER IPs. >Thrall breaks the fourth wall as Metzen and even jokes "I didn't approve any of this".Jos Whedon tongue in cheek tier writing must be taken behind a shed and buried alive.>That's true for every video gameUntil the game dies and it's very true indeed. If we pretend to not be retards for a sec here, we have to admit that if you don't perceive your time spent in a video game as being "wasted", you're more likely to return. Can we at least agree on that very basic bitch logic there?
Sad to see the game go, still play it here and there.Also how the fuck do you play Nova now?
>>739055646>Movement speed is not high enough to outrangr her attacks if you are in melee range.Who the fuck is talking about ranging her?Fucking lmao you literally just walk to the side.
>>739035185Hey, I dropped the game when you made it more like dota: stupid camera angle, less gimmicks, more gray belence shit. Before it it was very good. Easily the only moba I tolerate
>>739055119Luv' me pimphandSimple as
For me, it's Yrel, Maiev, and Li-Ming
>>739035185Assuming it's not fake and gay I had a lot of fun with hots. Thanks for the good memories devanon.
>>739059795you could have just admitted you were being retarded on purpose and saved yourself a lot of text.
>>739054208>they determined to ruin all legacy they have
>>739035185As someone who actually worked on this>WinstonYes>VelenYes>Lei ShenYes>ToshYes>SelendisYes>Kyle Vlaros/BlackthorneYes>MercyNo>MaghdaShe was entertained but no>AidanYes>ScorchKind of>Lady VashjNo>BaalYes>SupermanActually trueYou might have worked on the game at some point but def not towards the endThe only OW characters being worked on after Mei were Winston and Reinhardt.Mengsk, Snake Sanders and D2 Druid are who you missed.
>>739059795Fuck off, Qhirafag
>>739058971People would either forget about it, not know you have to go back to spawn, or everyone would wait for someone else to take it so it would get wasted way too often. That problem doesn't exist with volskaya and dragon shire
>>739060040>>739060147>two worthless postsHere's your (You)s you roaches.
>hots tournament at blizzcona-are we back?
>>739060352It being a crossover is the only reason anybody even gave a fuck to begin with.
>>739060130>winston>not orisa
>>739060661Yes that’s correct
>>739056228I play every other evening and never look longer than 60s for a qm, if you play aram its instant there are still lots of noobs in the game, yesterday I played against a team consisting of lvl 40-50 and they werent smurfs because the game ended in 5 minutesboth morales and auriel are extremely strong but for auriel you need a good assassin on your team
This is the only assfaggots where every champion is fun to play.
>>739060386I would not get my hopes up at all. Sure we got the arthas rework but the game is still clearly on life support with a comically large pair of scissors in the room.
>>739058492it was a shit mechanic because you had to go back to enter the plant, the new one is ok but afaik they added the old garden of terror back in just for custom games at the moment but maybe they bring it back like they did with mines
>>739055119>Make a risky play for a boss>Throw the pustule into a push to scout>Hit 4>E, DStukov plays like sex>Have tracer or some other mosquito fucker in the enemy team>Take spine launcher at 1 and they literally can't compete
>>739060836>Arthas reworkThat actually happened? Carbot probably would have loved that if he still cared about the game but he moved on from blizzardI wouldn't take that as a sign HotS is in any way 'back'. Nothing actually NEW came out since Hogger, which is when I dropped
>>739056463Post more panda butt
Sometimes I'm still baffled they thought Varian was a good hero design when he was released
>>739035185>Added blaze>Retroactively blaze adds an alternate future to SC2 co op where tychus lived and just shot the shit for a whileHots was based
>>739061237 Varian is goated wym
>>739061302No. You are a lane minion until level 10, wherein you either>become a slightly better lane minion>become a louder lane minion>become the most AFK brain tank in the entire game
It makes absolutely no sense that Hots was put into maintenance and not just downscaled and releasing 1-2 heroes a year.Fucking Smite got more content than hots and no one was fucking playing Smite. Activision are such faggots
>>739061378He gets his role abilities at level 4 now iirc.
>>739061596Yeah. I said "when he was released", dipshit
>>739061503They wanted everything to be a big Esport and wanted nothing to take away from it. Compare it to what Bungie did with Destiny 2 when Marathon Launched. If HotS couldn't be a Esport title then they didn't want it taking attention away from OW 1&2 and others.
The skeleton team given free rein to balance whatever they wanted has the game in the best playable shape now. Chen still sucks major dick and I used to love playing him because his flying kick was OP AF before he was reworked. Deathwing is an absolute menace if you are decent with him. Diablo was sent back to the cuck cage and dies to any slow effect. Raynor still really good for a free starter character. Cho’gal = fun allowed. KT still is a flame strike bot. Samuro should be damage buffed. Naz getting jumped on sight, every game, every fight, no matter what. Arthas god mode paired with a good healer. Sgt Hammer still solo lane at level 20+. Remove all Overwatch heroes.
>>739061237>>739061378Yeah he was great As long as you and your team had good communication>>739061215Pic related >>739061698Chen was never bad or OP. He was perfectly balanced before and after the rework
>Charging for individual heroesyeah miss me with that goy greed, glad you enjoy financing bobby's latest yacht though
>>739061503Reminder that Jeff Kaplan was told that if overwatch didn't make a shit ton of money in 2020 and continue to make a shit ton of money after that then they would fire 1k people and blame it on him.
>>739061503its just corpo retardation
>>739061686They really should’ve just focused on making it the fun casual MOBA
>>739061698I raped with diablo yesterday, you are just forced to use off angles to kidnap squishies and the W build for sustain otherwise you'll die before your team kills anyone
>>739061924I have 90% of the roster unlocked and havent spent a cent
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>>739044829Looks like AIslop
>>739061686The execs are fucking retards. Instead of looking at the LoL example they should have been looking at the Smash Bros example
>>739062130You're retarded.
HOTS is probably the last game I played that you could feel the soul and genuine enthusiasm from the devs. I always got excited for each update. Fond memories spending the summer of 2017 grinding the fuck out of ranked.
>>739062016>W build >Not Q buildYou need to rethink your life
>>739061827They had to rework Chen for all the LATAM shitters that have zero critical thinking skills. My blizz account is so old I would openly flame my shit team constantly. I would always end with a “good luck reporting an account as old as mine with the amount of money it’s spent”. Never receive any punishment until i called my shit team beaners and told them to find another free game they don’t even support. Received a silence on my account for the first time for racism. I appealed the silence. I simply told them it can’t be racism if I’m Latin myself. Then further added that if they didn’t want racist chat then to stop making me carry LATAM shitters. (My MMR is high from playing with friends that were really good). Received a response from an actual GM. Basically told me to chill on the language and followed by an actual acknowledgement that LATAM players suck at heroes. I should have saved that email.
>>739061982>>739062016The thing is the only reason they made it was to cash in on the craze of esports and the like, they didn't care about anything else. They don't want the chump change of a few million in profits per year, they wanted that 2 billion number LoL was earning in the late 10s so anything less than that was a waste of time. Many here think any good profit means it's worth it, but to these people anything that isn't the highest of high earnings is like getting a $10 net profit from flipping a Pokemon card, it's just a waste of their time and energy because they can make better money with less steps than this.
ban blizzfaggots
You fags got me to reinstall and play a few matches with my friend. 5 wins and 2 losses and illidan still fucking sucks.
>>739062996Feels like that was the point of the thread, not opposed to that mind you, but the replies seem too spammy to be natural
>>739062996
>>739063049>but the replies seem too spammy to be naturalNot everything is a conspiracy, m8.
>>739062996>illidan still fucking sucks.Get good
>>739062021I have 100% of the dota2 roster unlocked and haven't ever installed it
>>739054157SEXOOOOOOOOOOO
>>739062996Let me guess, you tired 1v5 with illidan and complained to your team that they didn't save you?That was the common illidan playbook back when I was playing.
>>739063257It's not a conspiracy anon.
>>739063445>blizzard is totally shilling this game they killed on a nepalese underground go-karting forum guys!
>>739063297The difference is dota 2 is a shit game played by russians and peruvians
>>739063671>blizzard is totally shilling this game Where in my post did I mention Blizzard? Where did I mention shilling?I'm thinking it's just some poor retarded soul trying to get people to play the game due to the fact it needs a community to survive, no players long wait times for game4s and all that. The fact that you jump to the only answer being it's someone at the company pushing this thread is somewhat troubling....
>>739063836Then this is even more puzzling. Your problem is with regular people trying to get others to play a game?
>>739063784I thought the difference is hots was in maintenance mode with no new development being left to rot?
>>739035185I started playing this in 2026 :DI only play ARAM tho.what about the Blizzcon revival? I thought there were rumors that hots 3.0 is coming
I play Hots every few months, just go in, pick Li Ming and either stomp the noobs or get stomped myself with someone going afk. Wish the game was more popular, it's not bad at all
>>739064173Problem? What problem? Are you even reading the post made? >>739063049 I even noted I was fine with it. If the game is full of retards like you perhaps this is why it failed.
>>739035185Several reasons for HOTS not doing well.1. Took them awhile to patch shit (before 1.0, after overwatch characters who had hyper mobility, after 2.0,)2. They had no easy and/or cheap way of getting access to heroes. This hurt when I tried to get some friends to try it out.3. The e-sportification and subsequent abandonment. The game wasn't dead at this point but got turned into a zombie.4. LoL and DOTA 2 fans were too entrenched in their gameplay loops. I know this seems petty but (you) needed to pay attention to their feedback. It was common complaints that many of them wanted last hits, certain things to work with towers and items, and majority of them absolutely hated objective play (as in fighting for objectives that helped you win the game over time). Many of them absolutely hated playing against heroes like Abathur and The Lost Vikings.5. Overwatch. I actually didn't mind them being in HOTS compared to characters fighting with guns and axes, but it was obvious some dumb fuck higher up forced them in without any care for gameplay and were left overpowered for half a year or so. Some of the Overwatch maps were extremely broken too. Many players left during this time.I loved it because a casual faggot like me had fun with it and the girls were hot, even if I wasn't playing them. Some LoL and Dota2 faggots had some fun with some of the heroes too that would never exist in their previous games.
>>739064181Given the ABSOLUTE STATE of dota, that's a good thing
>>739059346deckard honestly feels like playing an idle clicker game, incredibly boring kit
I have two problems with HotS1. the class rework was a fucking mistake2. Make ARAM an actual real ARAM mode, people pick their mains all the fucking time and it shows, I thought the point of ARAM was experimenting with heroes you never pickalso the "all 10 players as the same hero" matches are wayyyy too rare, they should make them more common
>>739061698>The skeleton team given free rein to balance whatever they wanted has the game in the best playable shape now.They nerfed the Bat!I'm so upset. No more raid-boss.
>>739065374>1. the class rework was a fucking mistakeIt was needed, the warrior class had to be split between tanks and brusiers. >point of ARAM was experimenting with heroes you never pickNo that's QM
>play full bomb build Probius>squishy facechecks a bush
>>739065512what is that build?spoon feed me
>>739065512>Not going canon build and becoming the undisputed lane king
>>739064534God I have that Kerrigan skin and it is great. Shame I suck at playing as her.
>>739064534>>739065508We can consolidate it down to one simple thing: Players. The game demanded team work, carrying was near impossible most matches but the other factor was no one wanted to play their role or worse they just wanted to play one role and leave the rest to chance and as such it created oddities like Murky, Azmodan, Naz, Sylvanas, etc to be Gold/quick match Kings and Queens when they were at their worse kits because no one would oppose their lane pushing when Obj came up, usually you had the tank and/or healer trying to get the other three to understand that one of them needs to challenge the lane the pushing enemy was in but they never would, thus you have stupid blow out matches where the winning team won 0 objectives but won the game. That lead to constant reworks and the team doing special videos and forums trying to get players to understand what they needed to do, but the players by majority refused to learn so the game got fucked up more and more to the point some maps would just get reworked from the ground up or out right removed, not because they needed it but because the players would refuse to learn the game. It was like trying to play a game of chess with a person that just wants to eat all the pieces, you just can't make a game for that kind of person and that person was most of HotS player base.
>>739066669Babysitting the split pusher was never fun unless you were Illidan jumping them across the map with TEN THOUSAND YEARS
>>739068095I am that Abathur mainExcept I'm not muslim, and if you call me one I WILL get pissed and then you won't even have the copy ult
>>739066261She needs a dedicated healer to scale or she eats dirt
>>739035185>more OW heroesYuck!
>>739066669splitpushing can get you banned even if you win games because team reported you for nonparticipation
>>739064534>many of them wanted last hitsLiterally why?
I love this game but its full of literal children. They spaz out at the draft and then there goes a 25 minute block of your life wasted as they afk or constafeed.
>>739069181because everything needs to be like my game or it sucks!!!(this is why we went away from hots-unique mechanics like tower ammo and building repair drones on healers towards more homogenized moba experience)
>>739069195I see the same things happen in other mobas and in hero shooters too, so unfortunately it's just a gamer problem
>>739069849Yep, except in Dota it's 40+ minutes of your life wasted.
>>739062441>try Q build>got raped into a lossyeah no
>>739068685You can overturn a ban if it happens for illegitimate reasons
>>739042764Playing zagara and doing my own game of fuck this game I'm doing all the objectives at once was peakSecond only to locust abathurMan this game had some impressive oddball kind of characters
is there a way to make a battle.net account without giving them my phone number?deleted mine years ago cause>blizzardbut I get the itch to play hots every now and then
Did the overwatch heroes actually like the game?
>>739071361ya the specialist units really made the game for me. playing azmodus and sergant hammers was great too alongside the two you named. prenerf hammers could just automatically destroy most of the enemy base you the game once her ult was permanent and just rotated around the map.azmodus with summons was great, lazer was fun, the ball was also super fun and it never felt that broken to play against.I really love how hots had 2 viable builds for every character sometimes even 3.
>>739066034Full Bomb Build is>Warp Resonance>Photon Barrier>Rift Shock>Pylon Overcharge>Power Overflowing>Gravity Well>Probius Loop
some of these skins are awesome. they recently added some cyberslut skins too
>>739035185lots of literal whos and overslop heroes
I'm still mad they ruined Alexstrasza, no idea why they went full woke with her and non of the other characters
>>739035185I dropped this game after they started breaking the knees of the more weirdo heroes, and forcing them to fit into DPS/Tank/Healer. I liked being a mobile artillery piece with Asmodeus.The last character I enjoyed, and when I dropped it, was Deathwing. I realized I was having the most fun with the character whose entire game plan is interacting with both teams, and most of the game mechanics as little as possible, and realized I was just not having fun with the game anymore. Rest in piss, Hots. You could have been okay, but Blizzard killed you.
>>739072487Latexstraza looks fucking fine in this game tho
>>739072487how do you mean?
>>739072672>>739072680>made her fat>covered her up>gave her a manface
>autoattack build zeratulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gre-o_tsumk
>>739064534The thing is a lot of the mechanics actually were fucking awful and really did need to be changed.So situations were able to be created because of some dumb choices and then people learnt to exploit them and it made it even worse.Shit like tower ammo is beyond retarded. Completely unjustifiable.Wanting people early on to NOT contest objectives to soak more for a bigger advantage was stupid and went against the core design of the game while also adding a lot of confusion and bullshit in pub games.How the power difference of objectives between maps was completely retarded so some maps it was super important to deny them and others you could easily give up the first few objectives and it didn't matter. Like compare the dragon shrine (or w/e the name is) map where its super important to always defend the top and bottom shrines so your opponents can't get a dragon even if you never get one, because you will lose basically an entire lane and the game will get really hard. Then you compare it to garden with a similar pay-off piloted objective except the first horror will barely take a few buildings and you need to be able to send 2 horrors down a lane for them to really matter so you can just barely contest this early on.Map differences added a huge learning curve as well and how little time players who were not actively tracking objective times had warning just added more shit you needed to keep track of.And a million others I don't remember off the top of my head.So many choices were just incredibly baffling
>>739035185I only played vs. Elite AI and have a few thousand matches of that. Incredibly fun game, I don't think I ever bought a hero for real money as I made enough gold to buy them but I did buy the booster frequently. I would easily come back again if the game got a third wind.
>>739035185what about the protoss/zerg hybrid?
>>739072868She's fat because that's how models in an isometric game should be (check Reforged if you wanna see how normally proportioned ones look)>>739073168No Xel'Naga pls
>>739038501I was just using Tracer as an example, they're ALL like this.
Do you guys think there's a chance the game gets resurrected? Like it's probably the last blizzshit game people actually liked.
It's Blizzard so their target audience is man children and literal children, so the game became boring after many patches. They kept reworking stuff that were fun into more streamlined / balanced stuff for e-sports, in a game that was already too casual with a low skill ceiling, like the way they changed how cloak works. had my fun while it lasted though
>>739073705eh maybeFrom a greedy business perspective there isn't a point to put more people on the team to make around the same amount of money they're making off of it now.
>>739073705even if it did it would start looking weird because they would need a new team of people since most of old team already left blizzard
>>739035185I recognize two of those characters. That's probably why the game died.
>>739073705Current Blizzard would censor every single female skin before even starting any actual work on the game
>>739053027they should make it so his grab works on unstoppable units
>>739074179I have managed 2 absurdly difficult Wraths.>Leoric was in Wraith Walk and I hit his unstoppable body on the exact frame he loses unstoppable but before he teleports>genji mid-dash
>>739072868>fatFaggot
The Alex in this game is a completely different character, only the dragon form is accurate, the visage doesn't even half elf ears. Even in her reveal trailer she looked different and more like the actual Alex
>>739073705I'd say no way fag but the d2 expansion makes me think nothing's off the table now
>>739075160expansion is a bit of a stretch
>>739073705Best case scenario is to tweet at the Indian nepo baby.
>>739073705no because all the good devs either left or got poached by other studios like riot
>>739036175I miss this my bug husbando
Man I really miss playing HotS
>>739060130I wanted a Mengsk announcer so badly
>>739074882but the lore reason is the can look however they want. They don't have one dragon form and one humanoid form. If Alex wants to be a gnome she can be.
>>739035185No wonder the game got shut down if those are your picks for Warcraft glup shittos. Lei Shen's the only one who'd get an interesting kit on that list.
>>739076825IS THAT A
>>739076825ma'am your clothing is a little bit revealing
>>739076825ZAMN
I was at my peak a master rank li ming main and i have to say the biggest issue the game had was heroes should have all been free from the start and and they should have put out way more skins because they had an S tier art department making skins.No joke skins would have saved this game, it was already making money its wasn't making overwatch money so they axed it. Heroes all being free just makes it better for new people.
>>739076825what's with the sassy child?
>>739058759Not him, but IMO starcraft fits in alongside warcraft and Diablo better. The protoss tech basically just looks like magic, and the zerg fits in fine alongside the demons and beasts. The terrans are the oddball out, but they've got a grittiness that sort of makes them fit. Overwatch is too clean and reeks of Marvel avengerslop too much.
>>739073705They'd destroy whitemane I can't have that
>>739077782whitemane was legit hard (haha) for me to play because i would get turned on when she would laugh and shit. Masterclass character that no other moba tops
>>739077630Dreadlord Jaina was the best thing that ever happen.
>>739077992Jesus that looks way fucking worse than the hots dreadlord jaina, why would you post that garbage?
>>739077992>Reforged
>>739077992>>739078058here never post that shit again
>>739078058Because it resonates with the current state of modern blizzard
>>739078130>all the art talent that made kino like this are gone from blizzardHots was legit the last gasp of air for the real blizzard
overwatch heroes killed the vibe of the game desu
>>739078298They did, they were all overpowered and anti fun i quit because of them
I liked the oc loli but hated the nigger
I liked the femBarb. How is she doing nowadays?
>>739035185remove the yoked EXP>bUt ThEn I caNt PlAy tHiS oOne rAndOm CharCtERthen let the game die
>tfw you learn how Fenix's Arsenal Synergy talent actually works
>>739072319>recently>7 years ago>recently?is this a bot?
>>739080582Maybe a Grubby enjoyer, he has a meme where he refers to patch notes for Warcraft 3 from like 2006 as "recently"
>>739069849Yeah, I just went back to solo ladder in aoe4, the problem might be endemic to team games I guess.
>>739073705It's way better for it to stay on maintenance than get touched by modern blizzard "creatives".
Seriously though why is it not on Steam?
>>739083113Microsoft doesn't care.
>>739083113they really need your phone number for account registration please understand
>>739083282what?
>>739083396courtesy of overwatch "2" going f2p they implemented mandatory phone number registration in order to make battle.net accountsand pre-paid numbers don't work cause they can't steal your data that way
>>739083572but you still need a bnet account to playso you would still have to give them your number in that case regardlessit just doesn't make any sense
>>739076825I need to suck on that little bald clitforever
Hots died the game they removed the lvl 7 exploding bottle talent from Greymane, literally uninstalled they day it was announced.
>>739085282Remind me what that one was.I have some alarm klaxon going off in the back of my head, but I'm not willing to go search patch notes for the past 8 years to figure it out.I quit after they removed Dreathwing's stance switching a few months ago. Like, holy shit, he's fucking awful and people are slurping it up because they don't have to wait to heal as often. The character was based around being big and slow and powerful, and now he's big and moderate and moderate with less ability to be used in creative ways. I'm still mad.
>>739085282You sound like ARAM shitter.
>>739085282>>739086208Incendiary elixir? It's still there.
>>739086208to be fair to the intern, 90% of Deathwings (read: shitters) just sat in ranged form the entire game anyway
the more shitwatch characters they added. the less i played
>>739086208>removed Dreathwing's stance switchingthe fuck why
>>739035185>Lei ShenFUCK
>>739087582This one hurts, right? What an intensely based pick.I'm imagining Phreak saying the poem at the start of his hero spotlight.
>>739055940Bro you are retarded and dogshit at the game
>>739054208>Artlantis>Stitches>Junkrat>Bone daddy>Kel thuzad>Diablo
>>739058492Because the play most people made while in it was to run around and waste time and end up getting nothing done with it
>>739062581Nah, hots wasn't trying to be esports until a while after release, it was mostly just a casual game where they could try out unique character kits that others in the genre wouldn't do because of trying to be esports comp games
>>739087629He was my most wanted hero and to now know we were close to getting him is soul crushing. If OP is still around can you tell us what role he would been?
>>739090548School girl Li-Li should have been a thing along aide the other school skins
>>739087203BUT Q CAN MAKE BIG DAMAGE BE BIGGER IF THE ENEMY WALKS INTO ITGod, I am still salty...
>>739076825I never had a problem with Orph.
Cmon Microsoft resurrect this game
>>739042152the /vm/ thread was awful because people were ridiculously arrogant and certain of their opinions while all being diamond-master shittersyou can even see it here with people thinking current deathwing is weak
>>739047219This would be a very non-retarded post if Dota and LoL (to a lesser extent) hand't been around forever by this point.
>>739047260>they removed tower ammoStarted last yearTower ammo sounds kinda aids
>>739093000Nice trips, but also he's not weak, he's less fun, and they didn't address any of his major issues.His heat wave burning aura was, and still is, absolutely busted. Lava burst does almost no damage, so all you have to use your energy on is Q, which entices a Q build further. He has talents that increase his melee damage, but they didn't interplay with anything he actually used. His level 16 landing ability is effectively a third ult.And they didn't even test what they did or even try to change anything. For instance, his level 7 where he drops meteors on landing to reduce his flight cooldown was the main reason it existed. So, instead of changing anything when they cut his flight cooldown to 15 base seconds, they removed the cooldown reduction and called it good, without addressing the fact the damage is does is pitiful and random in it effectiveness.His energy economy got fucked, since his cooldowns increased and the costs did not, so he never needs any measuring of his abilities, and can just slap his keyboard for two full more combos without a care in the world.It's not that he's weak - it's that every decision that was made about him makes no amount of sense. Going back to the melee talents to increase his melee damage, they remained untouched, even though his actual melee damage was reduced by a whopping 40%. They can't even bring him back up to what was his previous base.It's goddamn mind-boggling!
>>739036175words cant describe how fucking fun playing chogall was. king leoric was also an S tier hero as far as design goes.
>>739092920>Chief enters the fray
Panda bump
>>739095294Arbiter in hots would go hard. don't even joke
>>739095294>>739095979Honestly? Arby and the Chief would be interesting additions, if they played around with shields and ways of picking up weapons from downed opponents.>2 weapons slots>E switches between them>Autoattacks have a limited number, depending on the weapons, before he's back to a plasma pistol>Q is a special ability for each weapon, like a plasma pistol oversharge or shotgun knockback>W is a regular-ass melee>D switches current weapon for whatever is on the groundHave melee/rnaged/support mobs each have a weapon types, bruisers and siege another two, and heroes have a different weapon for their role, and you'd have a really neat little unique mechanic.Dunno what the Heroics would be, but there's enough unique shit to experiment with.
>>739096242I could see power weapons or something using vehicles for the heroicsyou could incorporate stealth camo for arby and overshield for chief too
>>739095294>>739095979>>739096242>>739096604Or just, you know, let Raynor and Zeratul have them as crossover skins.Like seriously, it's not that difficult to grasp.
>>739096808Genji already has a master chief skin
>>739064534The only reason HOTS doesn't (and will never unless changed) do well is because it's the only MOBA that is actually Team-Oriented.The solo/duo experience is actually miserable in every game mode. It just is. Because a singular person slacking affects the entire team. Meanwhile in League and Dota progress is mostly solo. The FOCUS of the game is individual. It doesn't matter how the rest of the team is doing if you're able to carry them yourself.
>>739086208>They removed DWs stance switchingDW was the main reason I would ever go back.Games dead to me now.Hiding that monster in the bushes just to switch to melee stance when they think you're flying away, just to bite their face off, was always fun.
>>739073705now that they're owned by microsoft maybe but like a tiny 5% chance sorta thing. I could see blizzard trying to do a legacy series revival and come out with a warcraft remaster game that isn't garbage, a sc2 definitive edition with all 3 games in 1 bundle, overwatch pve and HOTS coming back to life to celebrate.Pipe dream though
Come up with a Halo themed map gimmick
>>739095979>>739095294>>739092920nah niggasGive me Battle Toadsand we are back in business
>>739097389Outfit for The Lost Vikings.
>>739035185Trash game, first blizzard failure
>>739097594It was competing with itself. Blizz's only F2P PC game at the time but they expected some bullshit OW numbers instead of treating it like a fun monetized game ala custom maps in SC2 and WC3.They could have had a dedicated team on it and allow it to print money.Instead they went full on Esports retardom, doing the entire Heroes of the Dorm bullshit with ESPN contracts (this was actually a thing - Blizzard spent money to have HOTS TEAMS from Universities and all broadcast on ESPN) in hopes to capture who the fuck knows?? Just look at the vid below. Did Blizz really think normies would buy into this? God damn I hate the era after Morhaime left Blizzard. https://youtu.be/idB1af1k3R4
>>739097328Capture the flag in Storm-themed Blood Gultch>Hero with the flag is slightly slowed and cannot use abilities or attack>The side that is behind will spawn more minions to push lanes harder>As each lane (of which there are two) is entirely cleared, excess minions will also assault enemy flag carriers, and other heroes if they're nearby>The traditional halo announcer is the map announcer and he flubs the Hero of the Storm line with a mushmouth of "Hero frenzy- Keertacula-Storma-man-jaro... Eh, whatever. Nice job, Hero."Or, I dunno. Something Flood-themed where both teams are being assaulted, and it's trying to hold out as long as you can, while also sabotaging the enemy team.Competitive Braxis Holdout with a twist.>Gravemind as the announcer
>>739054208hammerhoggerzul'jin
There are more posts in this thread than HotS playerbase!
>>739098604>>739097594Nigga, this thread is over a day old and it will die in 3 posts, you would have gotten much, much better mileage out of this if you were here earlier.
>>739095294arbiter is the crossover characterunfortunately zeratul does just about everything arby does in Killer instinct
>>739099709Then just do clone characters like smash bros, with slightly different specs or skill specialties
>>739100042that sounds fucking awful for an ASSFAG
>>739035185Hits still hass the best designed and beat looking character models out of all MOBA. It's shame they hamstrung it that hard.
>>739053027I was one of those players who maxed Passive and flawlessly hit enemy team with the spear. Such a fucking fun hero. Turbo burst after exploding passive Marks, turbo self heal, just a walking spear machine.
>>739035185I would have come back to play HoTS but they have banned my main account with shit ton of bought for IRL money (prior 2.0 update) skins and mounts. All I did was telling some dude to kill himself. No appeal helped too even though I told them I feel bad and not gonna do it again. Big sad.
>>739100752I signed up with my hellokitty.com email and Sanrio is apparently too poor to maintain the service so I can’t confirm my email for password reset I had so many skins and unopened chests
>>739100752Anon, did you REALLY get banned after a single incident?I'm not calling you a liar but I have a friend who called everyone in our team faggots and whatever combination of racial slurs he felt like at the moment and it took literal weeks before he got silenced. Silenced. That was it.
>>739035185>>739060130>WinstonMan, I wish I had got to play this, I loved Winston in Overwatch, and he would have fit so well in HotS, too.D.Va had a lot more dialogue in HotS, as well as ass jiggle animation, and it was something I was expecting to get from future heroes...Fucking Blizzard, god damn. I was so hooked on their games, for a few years. But then, one by one, they ruined HS, OW and HotS... and I'm still bitter about it.
I wonder if Blizzard is entirely beyond saving.Not just for HotS, but for everything. They've spent the last half of a decade digging their grave ever deeper.
>this thread made me update it and try it againI don't know if this is some psyop to get players but it worked
>>739053568She was voiced by Grey DeLisle. Should be obvious why you feel that way.
>>739077992Dreadlord Jaina is equivalent to Darth Jar Jar level of stupid
>>739092920FUCK IT just go full Killer Instinct and bring Chief, Arbiter, General Raam, Battle Toads & Fulgore
