This is my E3. This is my SGF.Upcoming games getting a release datenew KINOS getting announced10 years of SkullsGetFucking HYPED lads.
>>739043103hopes?dreams?expectations?
>Get Fucking HYPED>PrimarisI don't think I will.png
>>739043194>hopes?abandoned>dreams?shattered>expectations?Subverted
>>739043194>HopesSome good high production games announced>DreamsA Horus Heresy RPG>ExpectionsJust your usual shit, nothing really out there
Wokehammer sucks now.
>>739043103These never amount to anything. I am looking forward to the latest Darktide disappointment, though.
>>739043194>hopes?>dreams?>expectations?I'll answer all of these at once by being realistic. There's a bunch of 40K games on the way already between DoW IV, Boltgun 2, TW40K and Dark Heresy with a pair of live-service games doing well already. We're just gonna get a bunch of teasers about the upcoming games; more content for SM2 since they're expanding it's update life; possibly release dates for DoW IV and Boltgun 2; Skitarii DLC drop for Darktide that's already been leaked anyway.
>>739043270>>PrimarisOn an unrelated note. Don't Primaris minis make Chaos SM minis just look weird when side by side now? Or did GW quietly update those as well?
>>739043103we're getting an eldar dating sim and tau mecha action game
>>739043194>hopes?dawn of war 4 is good (i'm not stupid enough to have any hope for total war)>dreamsdigital version of the actual wargame>expectationsmore fucking primachshit, possibly in a manner that is woke
>>739043749>digital version of the actual wargamenever gonna happen. games workshop doesn't want a direct digital replacement for the wargame. people might stop buying plastic. although>include amiibo-style chip with new minis so people buy them even if they don't play tabletop just to have them digitized in the game
>>739043194>hopes?Warhammer Fantasy CRPG that follows the Enemy Within campaign
gladius
>>739043703Legionaries were updated in early 2020s, I think. They're roughly the same size as primaris.
>>739043848It astounds me WFRP never got a CRPG based on it. TOW would be a perfect jumping in point now.
>>739043103still shocked by how much support space marine 2 has received so far. you don't hear much talk about it, but it has to be doing well.
>>739043649SKITARII SOON
>>739043103>smegmarslop>primarislopbig crigne dude
>>739044091AoS had its chance.
>>739044124>>739043883give me a crpg of either of these 2 owlcat.. NOW>they're too kneedeep in 40kslopreeee
>>739043869What will the next DLC be? They're running out of models and factions to add.
Dow2 definitivey/n?
>>739044124I've never played a more mediocre game.
>>739044015we don't talk about it because saber is a bunch of retarded monkeys who should've poured 5x the amount of resources into it instead of continuing on like it wasn't the biggest winner they've made
>>739044223Sure, why not.
>>739044223Story-focus might actually do them wonders. Also, unit dressup.
>>739044124Fookin 'ell
>>739044210no idea, the zephon dlc drops on 29th but i don't even know if they're making another gladius dlc
>>739043194>Skaven city "builder"
>>739044124AoS gonna get End Times treatment.
>>739044294>campaign is mission-focused with character building and streamlined>skirmish and multiplayer had more traditional base building and shithow did dow2 get this so right?
There's really nothing coming out in a timely manner for this to matter. DoW4 looks terrible, 40K Total War is at the very least one more year away, we already know what Owlcat, we know SM3 is in development. CA will shill the Endtimes DLC for WH3 a bit, other games will shill some updates and that's it. Also buy plastic.
>>739043795>>include amiibo-style chip with new minis so people buy them even if they don't play tabletop just to have them digitized in the gameShut the fuck up, anon. They'll come up with this idea some day.
>>739044124If I had a dollar for every mediocre AA-AAA game that had GWs branding on it I’d probably be able to afford a pizza with some wings even in this post recession world. Genuinely why did so many 40k, fantasy, and this one singular Aos game all flop so hard? It wasn’t until vermintide 2 and space marine 2 that warhammer video games seemed to pick up. Also I’m going to deliberately ignore total war because that game definitely peaked in warhammer 2 and 3 has just been shit show after show and people are only playing it because of sunk cost fallacy or because of cream api.
>>739044746They're not getting the best devs.
they're adding a bunch of gay shit like new vehicles for the imperial guard and we're supposed to believe "oh yeah they were always there lol you just never got to see them until now" and I don't even know how they're going to retcon STCs to fit those things plus whatever the fuck that gaylord belisarious claw is doing.lore is going tits up just like age of shitmar
>>739043703GW has slowly been increasing the size of all the minis, not just the Marines. That ever so slightly bigger model, and bigger base, means the price can once again continuously rise. Because a single box of basic bitch army men needs to be close to 75 dollars now.
>>739044857>oh yeah they were always there lol you just never got to see them until nowThis is literally how they've always done new additions until Primaris and female Custodes shitstorm.
>>739043194>hopes?event cancelled>dreams?GW goes bankrupt>expectations?neither happens
At this point, I'd rather just get DoW3 on a heavy sale than expect something good from new games. I already it's got a bad reputation, but it'll be cheap as dirt and long removed from the initial belly flop into failure that I might still find it amusing for an afternoon.
>>739044857>new vehicles for the imperial guard and we're supposed to believe "oh yeah they were always there lol you just never got to see them until nowBut they have been mentioned. Also it’s absolutely plausible for the guard to have something that’s never been seen before because the guard is the fucking guard lmao, I’m more pissed the apc doesn’t look like it belongs in warhammer.
>>739043103literally all modern warhammer media is about girlbosses or negros. literally zero cool whtie male heroes left
>>739043883>femael girlboss warrior dwarf>black imperial soldier>girlboss female knightabsolute woke trash
>>739044857that's how shit has always been. the imperium is a billion worlds and each is probably armed differently or supplied by a other forgotten forgeworlds with their own STCs.
>>739044746Short version is that GW basically let anyone with a bit of cash on hand buy the IP to use for some dogshit game, so there was a glut of games that came out all around the same time. Most were absolutely terrible, and dragged the IP through the mud, and subsequently made GW rethink that approach to their own IPs.
>>739045057yet they still give their IPs to dogshit studios like fatshark
Age of Strife tabletop/vidya when?
>>739044959seconding
>>739044223For me it's DoW2 Retribution and spamming guardsmen only.
>Mechanicus 2>Adds VotannBut why though?
>>739044746GW absolutely refuses to let any side media overshadow their models.
>>739045473You got the three most tech-concerned factions that all believe that the shiny thing over their belongs to them.
>>739043194>hopesless mobile gacha shit than a year ago>dreamsLA Noire but inquisition (never ever)30k Republic Commando/Halo Reach ending on Istvaan 3 (never ever)Some tactical rts similar to DoW 2 (less dudes to control, more individual abilities, character interactions etc etc); maybe licensed version if chapter master>expectationsgorillion 60$ dlcs that add nothing to whatever games (mostly tww)mobile gachashit oriented on brown children and chinese"owning the chuds" things like screaming Dolph Lundgren looking woman (but also BLACK) and other soulless poopAge of Shitmar
>>739044018Actually checks out with this years>new models>fat bastard in RT>DoW4>Mechanicus 2
>>739045671their latest tcg gacha (that youve never heard of) got shutdown last month
>>739045473I legit forgor they added lame space dwarves in that gameHow did they make them so lame?
>>739044294Did gw ever disclose what has happened to Vanillus Icius?
>>739045793Newest datamine has confirmed skitarii alpha as the new class.
>>739046302KIf mr roboto is this year's legally distinct judge dredd, what turd will they release later that year? What is as lame and as shitty as hive scum?
>>739046126Current GW writers are lame and/or gay and would rather make women Custodes then expand on the few interesting ideas that have come up since 8th edition onwards. Like there now being a Tau Goddess of the Greater Good, or the Votann being controlled by ancient super AI's that may or may not be malfunctioning and will casually just steal tech or resources from people if the AI demands it. Or anything to do with Y'nead and the Eldar's death cult that they basically swept under the rug.Nope, gotta have lady custodes. That's the important bit.
>>739046396>as lame and as shitty as hive scumI'll be honest, scum is probably my favorite class currently. It's everything I wanted zealot to be, except with poison instead of fire.As for later, who the fuck knows. Smart money is on yet another half-baked new game mode to shit out and quickly abandon, much like Expeditions and Mortis Trials. Anything to avoid making more actual maps.
>>739043194>a Bretonnia Grail Knight RPG game>roguelike Orc/Beastmen/Skaven game
>>739046396Hive scum one of the more funner classes to play, honestly. Second only to Ogryn.
>>739046432>Or anything to do with Y'nead and the Eldar's death cult that they basically swept under the rug.Ynnead was fatally undermined by being too big of a concept both in terms of narrative and real-world model ranges; it can't go anywhere in the fiction because the next step of their plan is crazy End Times-tier shit and in the real world it appears to have been an attempt to reboot the Eldar range by souping Craftworld and Dark Eldar together that was strangled in its cot before anything released. I get the impression that the Ynnead release falling flat on its face and then Craftworld Eldar getting massive waves of extremely faithful miniature refreshes soon afterwards aren't entirely unrelated events.
>>739043103Skitarii tomorrow
>>739046432Femstodes most likely happened because of Amazon deal. Fuck, I prefer if bananabois were just background NPCs, now they're irritating as hell seeing they're eternally butthurt with the Emperor's death, blames the Primarchs especially Rowboat.
>>739043103>>739043194For anybody who gives a shit>Space Marine 2's Update 13 with the major Siege mode update, new Operation, new weapon, and the first half of the complete overhaul of the cosmetic system is rumored to drop in the middle of the stream>Mechanicus 2's release date just got changed to release in tandem with the stream>Darktide is rumoured to be getting a Skitarii class announced, arguably the most requested class for the game
>>739044015>>739044225In the wake of Toxic Commando being an utter failure, Saber seems to have gone back and all in on Space Marine 2. They've become aware they need to actually support and milk their biggest financial winner.
>>739047303They shouldn't exist beyond being insanely high cost single units for Imperial Agents soup armiesShould be a build your own custode thing using warg-...Fuck GW
>>739047384Warhammer Survivors (lol)Dark Heresy beta release date (probably full release date too)Maybe we get DLC3 on the day too for RT
>>739047384>>739047998Probably get some TW3/40k too, but obviously if they had big shit for TW:40k that would be saved for dorito popes show
>>739047384>and the first half of the complete overhaul of the cosmetic system is rumored to drop in the middle of the streamWhat's changing?
>>739043103You one of those faggots who makes absolutely everything a warhammer reference because it's your only point of reference?Hope you can get better.
>>739048431Select Iron Halos and Sniper's cloaks being made available for all classes, along with several armor parts shared between armor patterns but not classes being made so they ARE available for all characters with that armor pattern. You have to unlock them via the new ultra grind system, but otherwise this means Sniper and Vanguard will have access to each other's parts, likewise for Tactical, Assault and Bulwark, and Techmarine and Heavy can share too. Then in U14 they're adding universal tabards and robes.
Did they fix the horrendous, boring grind in SM2 already, or do I still have to prestige every class four times to unlock the actually fun skills?
>>739048158Wow, they're adding Toddy? Truly the endtimes.
>>739043103Did they seriously put realms of ruin on the poster?
>>739049524YUP
>>739048158>more Rome 2 updatesCan't wait to see more broken mods.
>>739043194>hopes?Full end times reveal + chaos end game crisis>dreams?Soulbound crpg>expectations?Things that have already been announced
>>739049541its the only aos thing
>>739043514>Horus HeresyThey've surprisingly done very little with 30k in general. You can't even buy Betrayal at Calth anymore and Legions is just a card game.
>>739049773There's also horus heresy flavored talisman too I guess
>>739043194>HopesGood new Vermintide 2 content.>DreamsVermintide 3 (And it's not shit)>ExpectationsMaybe a Vermintide 2 weapon pack, probably nothing Vermintide at all.I would like to care about 40K beyond just reading lore dumps on wikis but I simply can't.
>>739047384>>739049462is it too late to get into MS2? I played thru the SP campaign on release and just... didn't like it much.who the FUCK thought making a game about spacemarines into PARRYSLOP was a good fucking idea?
>>739050124Whoever originally designed the original power sword with a crossguard.Is it parryslop. SM2 plays nothing like Sekiro.
>>739050493SM2 is parryslop central. Its gameplay consists pretty much entirely of parrying enemies until you're allowed to press X to Cool Thing for a sick execution animation.
>>739043194>hopes?skitarii>dreams?skitarii>expectations?skitarii
>>739050669nta but I played on medium and I didn't have to parry much since my team mates just healed me anyway. also were you just using melee every time or something? The melta gun carried me through most fights
>>739050669Not really, parrying fucking sucks and any weapon or build worth using is better swinging than gunstrikes
>>739050124No, not at all. The game averages 10K players on a bad day. For a PvE centric game that feels like it crawled out of 2007, it's done exceptionally well.
>>739049938>I would like to care about 40K beyond just reading lore dumps on wikis but I simply can't.No modern 40k game is as good as Vermintide 2 or Total War Warhammer so it’s understandable.
>>739050992>Not really, parrying fucking sucks and any weapon or build worth using is better swinging than gunstrikesAnd yet the absolute king of Siege right now is jump dash Assault who's all about parrying and dodging.
>>739045802Baffles me that HH Legions is still going, that shit had maybe few hundred players half a decade ago
>>739051445>who's all about parryingNot really, he's just about wings of flame jet dodge spam which is still too unreliable for my tastes to give a shit about and most of the damage comes from the dash itself, not the gunstrike at that enemy densityWhen saber makes it so that half your jet dodges don't randomly not count as dodges i'll take it but until then its still bulwark/tacticalBesides that siege itself is completely fucked balance wise even compared to absolute (which itself can frame trap you if you position badly once) so its not really representative of the larger balance. Hell, even going as high as Ruthless doesn't represent the average player experience since 80% of the shitters all stay on substantial or below for their "power fantasy" of killing 10 gaunts and a single warrior. Regardless, gunstrikes are just alright. SM2 does have some problem of being designed around that many defensive systems where you get raped for all your HP if you fuck up once but anybody who's relying on regular ass parry->gunstrike is not playing at a difficulty where it particularly matters.
>>739043883TOW RPG is too rules-lite for a CRPG, WFRP complexity would be better suited to that.WFRP is even getting another edition this year since it's its 40th anniversary of the release of first edition
>>739044909>female CustodesNope, those are "they were always there retcon" like the Rogal Dorn tank
>>739044018Can't wait to have my cog boys.
>>739046396HS is the best class to play
>>739049827Talisman is Fantasy monopoly, so I'm not surprised it got a random HH version just like it got a Harry potter and Batman version
>>739044018>RuststalkersYou're telling me we're playing these niggas?
>>739052539New class is essentially confirmed as a skitarii alpha
>>739052539>>739052663Playing as an alpha is a great excuse to have all of the crazy ad mech weapons that other units typically have.
>>739052539Basically Ranger, Vanguard and Ruststalker/infiltrator will be the three archetypes but they're also promising that the tree would be non linear so you can mix random stuff.
>>739052539>>739052663>>739052959if its truly an alpha, the three skill trees will probably be themed between rangers (long-range and shooty, maybe with a servo-skull gimmick), vanguards (close-range and tanky, DoT radiation effects) and ruststalkers (fast and stabby, some obligatory stealth ability like veteran and zealot).
>>739053101Hot damn, between the new AdMech and my Steam Controller arriving so my crippled ass finally has a good gamepad option that won't break my feeble wrists, I might pick Darktide back up.
>>739053119They could probably cram a bit of a support role in there too, maybe some way of buffing your party.
I don't like the Mechanicus. I don't like them as a faction.I don't like their aesthetic or their belief system.However, I really, really, really think Titans are cool. PsyTitans are also the coolest and are not made by the Mechanicum/ Mechanicus so I'm justified in thinking that the Mechanicus could be replaced if the Emperor wanted to, but he was too lazy and decided he wanted to use them as his code monkeys.
>>739053256The problem is that the Emperor needed the Mechanicus to get his dream jumpstarted. That being said, I love the faction through and through so I am heavily biased.
>>739044018>>739047220>>739050886>>739052663Name your skitarii reject, bros... I will name mine erect_cog
What's wrong with 11th edition?
>>739053410Tons of things. The wargear system is a massive one that they've decided to keep around for one, and the game has turned into a heavily abstracted boardgame as opposed to a wargame.
>>739043194>HopesDoW4 switching hands to a more competent dev>DreamsA game featuring any part of 40k that hasn't seen much spotlight and isn't bargain bin trash>ExpectationsAnother attempt at a smegmarine game, overpriced cosmetics
>>739043194>hopes?More footage and details of Total Warhammer 40k and Dawn of War 4Maybe something approaching a release date>dreams?A new Character Action RPG that stars Eldar of any or all flavors for some fast-paced mobile action>expectations?Lots of previews of updates for existing games and some new mobile trash
>>739053371Ligma-cog
Reminder that pre-painted minis are on their way
>>739053454I'm guessing you missed the FAQ yesterday where they announced wargear prices are coming back for some units in 11tb
>>739043103I used to get excited for this until i started noooticing that bigger budget games worth caring about never seem to actually bother with this thing and just announce things separately on their own terms (ie 40k total war, SM2)It's just not worth sitting through an hour of card game slop to see what fatshark is up to + the 1 oddball actual good announcement that we maybe get per year.Skulls is pretty much all shovelware, mobile game and dlc slop.They stopped even bothering with live presenters and just do a recording so GW is aware of this themselves.
>>739053705Yeah for /some/ units but by and large I doubt it's going to change. Most units will be costed to the point where you will have to take the optimal setup or you are missing out. It's almost certain you'll just get 10th's different datasheets for the same unit.
>>739053696surprised we didn't have those a lot sooner
>>739043194>HopesMore info on TW40k.More info on that dumb Vanpire Survivors clone, hopefully with playable xenos.>DreamsNew Eldar-centric gameNew AoS game that isn't shitTalisman Redux>ExpectationsNew Boltgun 2 trailer; now featuring more BolterAn underwhelming free Hero for TWW3DoW4 Necron trailer (which will somehow spark some kind of controversy since the main Cryptek is a woman)Battlesector DLC for Ultramarines, lulNew class for Darktide is some lame Imperial shit so AdMech fans can pretend they matter for five minutesSpace Marine 3 teaser featuring Titus and Orks.
>>739054215>so AdMech fans can pretend they matter for five minutesCan't be any worse than xeno fans pretending that they ever mattered in the first place.
I'm just hoping for more pornography featuring human women being corrupted by the forces of Chaos.
>>739044223ABSOLUTELY INSTALL THE COMMUNITY PATCHES TO FIX THE SOUND BUGThe best part of DOW 2 was the multiplayer and that was gaped by THQ going under so if you care then install elite mod
>>739043703Those were updated around the same time the primaris were introduced
>>739049938>Vermintide 3 (And it's not shit)Your wish is granted;Vermintide 3 will be set during the current edition of AoS on Aqshy following the Vermindoom. Your playable characters will be;>A Freeguild Arch-Knight>A Scinari Loreseeker>A Kharadron Arkanaut>A Seraphon Astrolith Bearer>Markus Kruber (Now a Stormcast Eternal Questor)
>>739043194>hopes?Planetside but Warhammer 40k.>dreams?Slaanesh daemons get proper tits again.>expectations.More nigger lesbian strong girl Space Marines that raise their womanly eyebrow and entire Necron army collapses in an instant.
>>739054271The main reason people are buying Mechanicus 2 is for Necron, anon. Your faction is broadly remembered as "That builder unit the Imperial Guard had in Dawn of War".
>>739054624As opposed to necrons being another speedbump for the Imperium to roll over as they move on to the actual antagonists? Cawl alone gets far more meaningful screentime and merit than any of the necron heavy hitters.
>>739054215>Space Marine 3 teaser featuring Titus and Orks.Space Marine 3 is 2029 at the earliest, Saber said so. Definitely no teasers for it anytime soon.
>>739054772Buddy, AdMech are a speedbump for Chaos Marines to run over. Don't pretend you're any better than xenos, the only factions that get to shine are Marines, Spikey Marines, and sometimes IG.
>>739054912All I really have to do is gesture vaguely to Cawl and that's about it, a single named character from a speedbump faction that gets to shine far more than the rest of the speedbump factions.
>>739054562which one is the cute elf waifu?
Why isn't there a tactical shooter about the guard - something like a bit more arcady squad? Or something even more arcady kinda like CoD5 or something or maybe Red OrchestraSeems the most logical thing to doThere are mods for arma or something which means that there is a market for it
>>739055228>Why isn't there a tactical shooter about the guard - something like a bit more arcady squad? Or something even more arcady kinda like CoD5 or something or maybe Red OrchestraI have a feeling Full Spectrum Warrior might be right up your alley if you haven't already played it.
>>739043194>hopes?Chaos Dwarfs game>dreams?Chaos Dwarfs game>expectations?Not chaos dwarf game
>>739055275Sit your ass down. You're lucky to be in TW3.
>>739055070That doesn't make you an important faction, that makes your faction so lame you have to rely on him to carry you.Even then over half the community hates Cawl for several reasons. Even many AdMech fans hate him specifically BECAUSE he hogs the AdMech's spotlight.
>>739055270Not 40k
>>739055409Just imagine they're the IG.
>>739055275Brother I have some bad news for you.Chorfs are an AoS faction now
>>739055367It's more that he's written poorly but that's just what the entire setting is now: a galaxy reduced to pinpoints where the same characters show up, have a big duel, and nothing changes. I mean, being carried by Cawl can't be any worse than the lame characters they've hamfisted into the other factions. Look at Vashtorr for example, what a gigantic fucking waste of space and effort.
>>739055228Because that kind of game is only conceptually fun, but the moment you start thinking about actual gameplay, it's decidedly less so. All the silly and cool shit is the entire draw of 40k as a setting. Being an expendable rank and and file soldier used in human wave tactics is a concept explored pretty much in its entirety in early WWII shooters when they had the obligatory "storm Berlin as a red army soldier" level.The fun shit with the IG are artillery/vehicles, and Commissars. You know what would be a fun IG game? Something like the old Overlord games, where you play as a Commissar and have to keep your unit balanced with different weapon specialists, high in morale and low in corruption through executions, secure future artillery support by capturing strategic locations, and generally conduct a successful operation before you run out of men.
>>739043103>No Vermintide mentionIs it over verminbros ?
>>739055446NOT LIKE THIS
>>739055465>I mean, being carried by Cawl can't be any worse than the lame characters they've hamfisted into the other factions.You have no idea.
>>739055519There's another humongous waste of space, time, and effort that got sidelined so brutally that they can't even admit her storyline got cut off.
>>739055356Goblin hands typed this
>>739055519Why did they bother with this skank, when they could have hand waved Girlyman's return with "Uh, the Big E pulled some last minute space magic and now he's back".
>>739055815Would you like the long, potentially 2-post explanation, or just the simplified version?
>>739055860Yes
>>739055860Sure
>>739056045>>739056294Long it is;Before the Fall of Cadia, GW was not exactly in a fantastic spot. Fantasy was a dead game that had just been rebranded into the abhorrent disaster that was 1st Edition Age of Sigmar, sidegame sales were down across the board, and 40k had generally become a bit stagnant on the setting-side of things (which admittedly manu people liked). Instead of learning from AoS's failure, the then-management team at GW opted to do a large-scale 'reboot' of 40k as well, though on a softer and more prolonged scale.The initial step to this reboot was the destruction of Cadia, a campaign that even now is VERY divisive, to give Chaos a major win and split the galaxy in half along the middle.Following this, GW moved to make Primaris Marines; a wide refresh and complete retooling of Space Marines as a faction, designed to maximize profits. Marines were a very flexible faction before Primaris, with their squads coming with numerous wargear options and lots of loadout potential. This meant people bought less models, since each unit could potentially fill more than one role. Primaris 'fixed' this by making Marine units into dedicated Specialist squads who would only have one kind of weapon each. This had several 'benefits' for GW; Marine players now had to buy an almost entirely new army going forward, and new Marine players spent more on making their army.Naturally to lead the Primaris change they brought back Guilliman, marking a new age of 40k in which Primarchs are now the only characters that matter since HH books sold like hotcakes, despite 80% of them being fucking awful bullshit.So we have significant status quo-shifting events for Chaos and the Imperium, and now it's time to start on xenos.The only factions to catch changes from this 'reboot' were Eldar and Dark Eldar, as the management team was widely replaced mid-way through their plotline and the new team halted all future plans for the reboot.1/2
>>739056565>Fantasy was a dead gameIt was only dead because they completely fucked it up, I remember the WHFB scene being strangled in the cradle at my LGS. You had to spend monstrous amounts of money for a horde (Every army was a horde at this point) just to meet the minimum 2000 points required; nobody wanted to do it and just stuck with 40k. In fact, I think painting supplies were selling better than fantasy during that time.
>>739054215>Talisman ReduxWhat do you mean by this?
>>739053371>>739053371Yuji :^)
>>739053371Number-5
>>739056565For Eldar and DEldar though this was a complete disaster, as GW took the End Times approach to them; Forcing them to merge together to create a 'new' hybrid faction.The Ynnari were made with three goals in mind;>Sunset Slaanesh>Dispose of the unsavory parts of Dark Eldar>Create a new 'Grand Alliance of Death' for 40k, and make it plot relevant to Guilliman The first of these is based on Slaanesh being sidelined in Age of Sigmar. GW did this to potentially target younger audiences, particularly their parents, into thinking Warhammer was 'safe' and didn't include drugs and sex. To this end the Ynnari were given means to kill or at least cripple Slaanesh.This plays into the second step; the main DEldar character for the Ynnari is Lelith Hesperax, the gladiatrix who specifically has lore about her never taking Combat Drugs. The very 'unsavory' Haemonculi Covens were also barred from Ynnari inclusion, meaning the worsr you get from DEldar in Ynnari were spikey Kabalites and Wyches in leather outfits.The third, and honestly most damning, was something nigh impossible to do for 40k. Even in AoS, Grand Alliances are a very thin concept that are hardly held together. What GW wanted here was to make an 'Alliance' where the Eldar, under the Ynnari, were allied to both the Imperium (via Guilliman) and the Necrons (via new War In Heaven lore). The former was accomplished haphazardly by way of having Yvraine have a hand in Guilliman's revival, the latter was meant to happen in the failed Ynnari book trilogy.As said before, this was around the time management shifted, ending these plans prematurely.Slaanesh was no longer on the chopping block, the new marketing plan was axed, and the future plots were all cancelled.This was good for all the other xenos, and absolutely damning for Eldar and Dark Eldar. EVERY ongoing Eldar and Dark Eldar plotline was shoved into the Ynnari, and their failure and discontinuation meant that all of said plot points were now gone.
>>739056684Yeah I put it that way mostly just to save time, Fantasy was 100% killed by GW mismanagement, same goes for 1E AoS.GW genuinely didn't know what the fuck they were doing back then.
>>739057098I think that was all done under that Kirby guy if memory serves, even fucking Warmachine was eating GW's lunch up until the 40k reboot. That was the game with the infamous page 4, I remember players at my store stapled that page shut because it was so embarrassing. How funny is it that 40k ended up copying Warmachine when it comes to standing on objective circles.
>>739057161>the infamous page 4What was on this page?
>>739057223It was probably page 5, but here it is.
>>739057161>That was the game with the infamous page 4, I remember players at my store stapled that page shut because it was so embarrassingPlease explain, I never heard about that, and it sounds potentially very funny.
>>739057353Just look at the post above anon. I remember when I saw Warmachine players at my LGS, I asked them about said page and they guy revealed that his rulebook had every inch of that page stapled shut.
>>739057262I'll be honest, while extremely embarrassing, it's also kind of charming.
>>739057262Seems a bit cringe, but hardly the worst thing put to page in a rulebook
>>739057493I think it's quaint nowadays given how some properties tend to take themselves really seriously nowadays, just look at how heated people get over pointless power level nonsense in 40k.
>>739053696Ah yes, because that's what people wanted for this hobby game where you paint and assemble miniatures. Pretty soon I expect them to just sell boxes of prebuilt models as well, lots of the new sculpts are basically monopose anyway.
>>739057262>Romero's about to make you his bitch>But for tabletop wargamesFunny, but older editions of Warmachine were at least fun to play, but definitely favored the sweats more than casual pick up play.
>>739043103FOR DIVERSITY!
>>739054562I hate you so much. I hate that this is possible even more.
>>739057959The worst part is that I was being kind, anon.Any AoS-tide game has something like a 90% chance to be Stormcast-only.
>>739057161>How funny is it that 40k ended up copying Warmachine when it comes to standing on objective circles.It's because most of the Warmachine crowd moved on to 40k and brought their compfaggotry with them, and now 40k has had every last bit of soul ripped out of it to cater to tournament players.
>>739058190Hence why the game just feels like a heavily abstracted boardgame at the moment. It's losing its wargame aspects big time.
>>739057262wow this feels straight out of a 2004 game magazine ad
>>739057262Only lefties don't love this though?
>>739058229I only play 4th/5th with some buddies these days, crazy how much better it feels.
>>739058229Feels like it's going the way of the Civ games
>>739058172why do you delight in causing pain? Fuck, man. Darktide was already a disappointment for lack of characters (and playing with bots only), I just want a new comfy L4Dlike in a neat setting. And try as they have, AoS just doesn't have "it" for me at least. Ah well, maybe someone will like those potential things.
>>739058320Back when it was relevant, it just felt like it was trying way way too hard.>>739058408Yeah pretty much, that's a good way of putting it.>>739058365You mean you don't like tapping your captain to play a stratagem for 0 CP to reroll all your dice?
>>739047384>Darktide is rumoured to be getting a Skitarii class announced, arguably the most requested class for the gameI'd boot the game up again for that>inb4 it's buggy as shit (but don't worry you will be able to buy all the cash shop stuff associated with it just fine)
>>739058430Because I want an actually good AoS game, and I know it'll never happen because the baffling dogshit decisions they made with pic related.I want something I know I'll never have.
>>739058229At least HH and TOW feel more like proper Wargames still, and not big board games
>>739054574>Planetside but Warhammer 40k.They tried that with Eternal Crusade but cancelled it before it ever got a full release.>Slaanesh daemons get proper tits again.Sounds like heresy to me, not the tits part I agree with you on that but the Slaanesh daemons part. Heresy.>More nigger lesbian strong girl Space Marines that raise their womanly eyebrow and entire Necron army collapses in an instant.Unfortunately these fuckers are based in Nottingham one of the most pozzed parts of the country filled with Millennial progressives. It truly is a wonder to me how WH40K has managed to stave off this bullshit for as long as it did. Also that fat tard in the bottom left of your picture, I don't like him.
>>739058502May you get what you want, at least. I shall cope and seethe meanwhile. Mald, even.
>>739043270The future is now, old man.
>>739054574>Slaanesh daemons get proper tits again.There used to be a guy who would constantly badger one of my friends trying to buy one of his old daemonettes for some bizarre reason.
>>739043103how much longer before they introduce some long lost female primarch?
>>739057052I didn't believe the 40k grand alliances conspiracy theory thing until I saw the Necrons lore retcon from that Ynnari book and the Octarius passage from the same time about the Tyranids and Orks starting to integrate with each other at a molecular level. Those stupid ass hats really were going to make Grand Alliance Death and Grand Alliance Destruction in 40k. Beats Snaggas was probably originally a weird pivot the same way that Ynnari was planned to be.
>>739058576You just gave me "Nurgle player mixed shit with his paint" story flashbacks, and a dreadful thought.
What's your 40k dream game? Any genre, any factions, any developer, any level of funding.
>>739058668>passage from the same time about the Tyranids and Orks starting to integrate with each other at a molecular level.so ork genestealers?Those have existed since at least the early 90s
>>739043103>5pm LET'S FUCKING GOOOO!>May 21stOh for fuck sake, I thought I had some Sunday entertainment but I had to wait until Thursday...FUCK
>>739058724Sisters of Battledating sim1 gorillion dollars
>>739058724As tempted as I am to say a Devil May Cry/Bayonetta -like with an eldar aspect warrior, Call of Duty: Cadian Warfare might be unironically fun. Not CoD, of course, but just a setpiece heavy FPS story campaign with a Guardsman. Multiplayer .. uh.. sure, that too.It was a Total War 40k, but that's literally happening so.
>>739058724>Play as an Eldar Ranger on a planet where the Tau and Imperium are fighting>Both sides have fleshed out command structures with unique characters as far down as Sergeants, with each having traits and designated bodyguards that evolve depending on their personal careers in the campaign, a la Nemesis System from Shadow of Mordor.>(You) are meant to influence the course of the war as per the directions of a Farseer, ensuring certain targets die or survive battles, certain battles go a certain way, or certain plans get secretly delivered>Conflict escalates and goes sideways; When the Imperials are losing a prolonged stalemate a Chaos Cult may pop up. Marines may be brought in. The T'au may bring in Kroot mercs or Gue'vesa. A Genestealer cult could pop up on either side. All while bigger and stronger forces are being brought in by both sides>This includes designated assassin units being senr after (You) if you don't play stealthy enough, with Officio Assassinorum agents being deployed by the Imperium and specialist Kroot Shapers and Crisis Suits being deployed by the Tau>Eventually culminates into an 'End The War' mission where you get to pick which side loses in a decapitation strike, having to infiltrate either an Imperator Titan or Manta to deliver the killing blow.>Also has a sandbox mode where you can just do missions how you want and see how events play out.
Just a heads up, tw40k wont appear at skulls
>>739059342wonder what they will show for Warhammer 3 then, since the Tigerman DLC is coming out on that day, so a trailer for that seems irrelevant
>>739043103Bunch of lazy devs who need to ride the coattails of a stale bland IP just to sell copies. Why would you be hyped for this?
>>739059414Same as always, some free Hero character for Chaos.
I want an Elf game. Space or Fantasy. And NOT turn based.And a Sisters of Battle game. Give me my Bolter Bitches.
>>739059496Best I can do is a Blood Angels game where you fight Eldar and prove Marines are better Psykers than them.
>>739059414probably more Lords of the End Times
i really hate how AoS will forever remain a joke setting, without ever getting its potential used>you can go absurbist levels of high fantasy epicness, with shit like 500 steam tanks and 200 walking steampunk castes and gorillion enemies charging like its the battle of Minas Tirith on hyper crack>instead you get team bulky blue boys (stormcast) against team bulky red boys (khorne)fuck, this is making me mad even thinking about it. All they have to do is say "fuck it, lets ball" and give us gigantic fuckoff battles. And they just dont.FUCK
>>739059776I might find AoS as interesting as watching paint dry, but as an elfdar enjoyer I know the frustration of your favourites getting fuck all.May Skulls give you something good, brother.
>40k starts as a tabletop game>Blizzard later makes Starcraft, which many say was based on 40k>Starcraft gets more popular than 40k>Years pass>40k has long-standing video game series, and is now best known for video games since the tabletop game has declined in quality>Starcraft has fallen off and is a borderline legacy title>Starcraft is now making a tabletop game, and it's looking better than 40kOdd
>>739059776At least my fav fantasy race(dark elves) got spared from the AOS humiliation ritual.
>>739060094I think it's because the Starcraft game was designed to be a competitive game while 40k is twisting itself into pretzels trying to be a competitive game while losing everything that made it great.
>>739060094>and it's looking better than 40klol, LMAO
>>739058724Nobunaga's Ambition but 30k, contract with rights for the devs to ignore GW and established lore as they see fit about any changes to HH compared to books and the new alternative heresy versions they'd have to come up with and the rights to hire someone talented and not one of the BL kindle rejectsBudget for decent gameplay (perhaps ripping of the old, not-warhammer TW) optional
>>739060061i mean, dont get me wrong, memed old shit like the mortuary factory or the Sigmarines are still retarded as hell, but something about retard levels of scale and high fantasy are appealing to me when actually being played straight and made really large and cinematic. In Warhammer Fantasy, shit like Archaons grand chaos invasion is a once in a lifetime event for how grand and setting changing it is in scope. In AoS, the world is so retardedly large, you can simply asspull it and go "yeah, of course you can field 500 steam tanks, go wild." (the warhammer fantasy empire has like 7 in total, spread across its entire realm)I just wanna see big fucking battles, man
>>739060287>devs to ignore GWYou literally can't write your own lore for a 40k game. GW delegates a writer(s) to any new 40k game made so they are all coherent and in-canon with the IP. This is true since at least 2010.
>>739043103Oh yeah?Name 3 characters from Fantasy, and 2 from Smegmar (going easy because RoR was dogshit).You 40kids are fucking annoying, you only care about your slop with gunz and alienz and promptly shit on anything else.Kindly kill yourselves, please.
>>739060203Being better than 40k isn't a high bar, almost every wargame on the market passes it
>>739055446kek i remember this
>>739060401I thought the post said dream game, not boringreality game? My badIn that case, my boringreality 40k game is another space marine shooter with shit writing from one of GW's employed Kindle rejects
>>739060493Only 10% of Warhammer model buyers play the game according to GW own report for shareholders. The majority of their income comes from people that collect models to paint and don't engage with the tabletop at all. That's why there is more and more unique on-off sculpts that GW makes.
>>739060493Including other 40k products like kill team or necromunda
>>739060607GW doesn't force you to make SM games. It's the devs that know SM means profit. No one makes games to be homeless and poor.
>>739060439>SmegmarAcknowledging that even exists should deduct points.
>>739060439SigmarNagashKairos
>>739060714>i dont like it because bloo blooooTypical 40nigger, I bet you don't even know why people hate it beyond the first few years of skub vs antiskub.
>>739060662What does that have to do with my post retard? If I can't have my dream game, then space marine 3 is the only thing from current 40k lineup I'm interested inTW has been shit for a decade, not interested in RTS and tides are both garbage
>>739060439I hate that AoS renamed Malekith. Now that change made it's way into TOW too. I'm done with this IP. Necromunda is the only thing left for me.
>>739049938>>739054562Fatshark's CEO stated that Vermintide 3 is not happening for a long time, they want to keep updating Vermintide 2 and add more stuff from Darktide, like a sprint feature.It seems they really want to homage the original promise of supporting the game for 10 years, so expect Vermintide 3 getting announced maybe in 2028.
>>739043883Damn this looks crazy gay compared to old covers.
>>739059776>will forever remain a joke settingIt doesn't really even deign to that level, frankly. There's a sense of utter resignation to modern AoS ""fluff"", like if there wasn't an expectation that they pump out "lore" on a regular basis then the line would just be contextless game-pieces. And like, I won't begrudge them that when the only parts of it brought up with any regularity are the post-endtimes fates of TWW lords.
>>739060871they most likely lost the copyright for Malekith, since it's a name widely used as king of the dark elves\drows in most fictional universesMalerion sounds better anyway for a retarded elf cuck that tried to dance like a ballas, only to become the settings' equivalent of Darth Vader.
>>739043749>dreams>digital version of the actual wargameJust play table top sim? It already exists retard
>>739060991#NotMyPhoenixKing
>>739060991Malekith isn't even a copyrighted name. They are still publishing the Malekith book from the sundering series.
>>739044857Do we need Guilliman himself to cut the ribbon on a fucking APC that any planet with 1940's level of technology could build?
>>739043194nonenonenonethese are usually disappointing as fuck, so the best way to approach them is to just expect nothing.then anything actually interesting is a nice surprise
>>739043103>>739043194Does anyone think this is organic?
>>739061021people who want digital versions of board games mostly want them to reduce the "board" portion as much as it's possible in my experience. TTS has some basic scripts like the healthbar for units or their stats+equipment visible on hover, but you still have to roll dice and flip tokens and other board gamey shit. That stuff is rarely present in digital versions, replaced with computer doing it for you. Fuck I'd pay for digital versions of wargames just so I wouldn't have to deal with trying to move units around buildings in TTS without having them shoot 50 feet into the air because a pixel of the models overlapped or for the game to handle line of sight for me.That or presentation, digital comes with animations so you could have Dawn of War sync kills and models melting into puddle instead of just moving the mini away from the table
>>739060439>Ulrika the vampire>Kurt Helborg>Slambo>Gardus Steelsoul>Khorgos Khul
>>739061560>WAAAAH STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES AND UPCOMING RELEASES
An AOS vidya should be about a Sigmarine solo adventure RPG. Maybe closer to Space marine 2. That would sell the setting to people. if Sigmarites are the poster boys then make a poster boy game, none of these tactical strategy games.
>>739061896Just finished Vampireslayer. Ulrika and Adolphus was strangely hot.
>>739060905Why did they post job openings for devs experienced in UE5 though?
>>739058724I have an entirely new genre in my head that hasn't been invented yet, and I lack the skills to make it myself.
i have a howling banshee fetish. I NEED more howling banshees.
>>739062364Incubii are cooler.
>>739062157It doesn't necessarily have to be devs that are imminently leveraged to production. Arrowhead's practically down the road from them, and I'd imagine the continued problems Helldivers has just from the same depreciated engine has them anxious enough to move away from it that they're conducting feasibility studies and such for very far in the company's future.
>>739061626And it would sell like a ketchup popsicle on a cold winters day.The Minis are what we're here for. they're amazing and fun to look at, and the whole appeal is giving them something to do. Take away the minis and you're left with a frankly mediocre war game. GW is trying to simplify the rules as much as possible so customers feel more interested in engaging with the game instead of just painting. It's not as if they have much competition, no other company matches GW in selling plastic other than Gundam and funkopops.
>>739062634>that they're conducting feasibility studies and such for very far in the company's futureThey would have hired consultants to do such studies. Doesn't make much sense to hire full time devs to do it.
>>739062364Made for human men
>>739062967buyers beware
>>739043440When are they gonna stop pushing this and just say it was a Tzeentchian plot?
>>739063036Eh, getting killed by a Craftworlder for the audacity of it isn't bad. I like Wyches. I'd be thoroughly fucked.
>>739063036I doesn't make any difference why eldar think humans are animals when human facial features aren't that different from their own. Eldar should look truly alien instead of being just space elves.
>>739063491You just aren't racismpilled enough to get it.
>>739062408Truth.
>>739062641>so customers feel more interested in engaging with the game instead of just paintingNo, it's not for their entrenched customers who're already buying product. It's because the wargame is still one of the few routes they have to reliably onboard fresh consumers into an interest in miniatures- a hobby that is naturally extremely niche. The problem with brand loyalism as your core business strategy is at some point your core audience ages out, so you need to be cultivating young generations into a similar position regularly.
>>739062364
>>739063679I think that's why they're going after people who will walk in, spend a ton of money, and leave the hobby shortly after.
>>739058724Eternal Crusade
>>739063679Like someone said earlier, only 10% of their customers play the wargame, the rest just paint.The video games are what onboard people.To actually play the wargame you need to buy - I'm not exaggerating - $800 to $1000 of miniatures just to get a starting army.All that money and time spent painting just so you go in person to a store and spend 3 hours face to face with a stranger or local guy. It's hard enough to get friends to buy an $80 game you might play once or twice. It's next to impossible for others to find a friend who's also into miniatures SO MUCH that they already dropped the cost of a decent gaming PC.The wargame is inconsequential to everything. You hear some bitching and moaning from a vocal minority on /tg/ but nobody gives a fuck because it's a small crowd who already spent more than $3000 on GW miniatures. Might as well listen to Whales in a porn gatcha game what they think of the key components of a mini game to facilitate hentai.
>>739064040>just so you go in person to a store and spend 3 hours face to face with a stranger or local guy.The rules are written for playing with strangers moreso than anything else nowadays.
>>739064116And the community is awesome, don't get me wrong. Out of every other nerd hobby they're the most extroverted and friendly bunch and won't hesitate to invite a stranger to come hang out. Even on a quiet Warhammer Wednesday night, on a work night, in a small dying rural town, I can go to a games store, wear an anime hoodie and find a cozy place smelling of 3d printing fumes and sweat, filled with guys wearing shirts with references to good movies, striking up conversations and throwing dice with their dudes against other dudes. It's a good time, but it asks a lot. Namely money and time which nobody has anymore.
>>739064346I'm happy that you've got a good LGS anon, mine is fully of hyper-competitive netlist players that can't even tolerate crusade without a competitive bend to it. I guess that's just how they like the game but man it sucks.
>>739064419I'm in an army town so it's mostly guys who live outside for a living, not basement dwellers. It's still small as hell and dying unfortunately. I'm moving to the Bay Area soon and that's the source of all Wokehammer. But it will at least have a big community. And I'm not too concerned with Comp lists because I'm an IG player who spams tanks.
>>739064993I'm always happy to play competently and all that but my army would have to be an expensive skew list and that's just not fun, ah well. Hope you find some fun out there anon.
>>739065067That's really the issue, Skew lists are fucking ugly. Guys spamming 3s of Grimaldus and multiples of named characters. Too much incentive to design the game around buying the same box again and again- Instead of designing a coherent wargame that makes sense and plays easy. I hope you find a more casual community man. Good luck out there.
>>739064040>To actually play the wargame you need to buy - I'm not exaggerating - $800 to $1000 of miniatures just to get a starting army.unless your starting at 2000 point i don't think that's the case and even then you do have other Warhammer game that are much cheaper to get into, like Kill Team, Bloodbowl hell, even TOW is pretty cheap to get into depending on the army
>>739065535That's another big thing, armies just don't look like armies in many cases and just look like skew lists or something from a video game. I'll be on the lookout anon, I at least got to play some Necromunda recently.
>>739065067>Like Eldar, specifically Aspect Warriors>Have Eldar army>If I want to play that army, I have to play super scummy comp tactics most of the time since that's the only way Aspect Warriors can fight Marines and Marine-Adjacents>Most players are my store are either running Primarchs, named characters, or shitbricks>Meanwhile Marines can play basically however the fuck they want to because they have infinite Detachments and more Named Characters than some factions have units in generalIt sucks
>>739065610I'm going off American pricesYou need $200 for a 500pt combat patrol starting set, this unironically saves you money.The next 500pts are more expensive because you don't get another starter set, you're buying individual boxes without the discount that complete the army.I was under the impression Kill team was a valid way to play the game, buy a $80 box and get started. But you're really hard pressed to find a dedicated Kill Team community anywhere. And you're just buying a box of battle line units at a higher markup than a regular box, because you're just tacking on random wargear options to none hero units.Unless you bought recasts, 3d printed, or got incredibly lucky by buying 2nd hand minis, you're going to be paying at least $800 bare minimum. Unless you can show me your models and prove otherwise.Because the absolute cheapest army is Custodes, and that only takes 2 combat patrols to make a full list. that's still $600.
>>739066180I think the named character spam is the worst aspect. From a lore perspective I hate it, I get why comp players choose Guilliman and spam Grimaldus. As an imperial guard player I don't want to take a lord solar but I *need* to if I want to win.
>>739066191>You need $200 for a 500pt combat patrol starting set,>He thinks Combat Patrols are 500ptOh my dear sweet ignorant anonYou're lucky if a combat patrol manages to break 400p these days outside the Custodes one, and even Custodes are only 600p now.
>>739066374Ah you're right my bad. It's not even like they're any good now. They're all shit. Basically nobody gets what they want from those boxes. Imperial Guard players want tanks and infantry, instead you get cavalry for some fucking reason. It pulls me away. Too many boxes have 2 good things bundled with 3 shit ones at a reduced markup, because they want you to buy the cool set piece on its own.
>>739043194Boltgun 2 immediately releasedThat's the only warhammer game I really care about right now. I'd also like some sort of Eldar fps that emphasizes their mobility like I kind of imagine Ghostrunner as a loose framework for it
>>739043194Elder Scrolls Total War
>>739067041damnit, I interpreted this as a CA Total War expo.I mean, more Warhammer 40k Gameplay!
>>739062831retard thinks he knows better than dev studios lmao
>>739043194>hopes?Darktide gets proper content.>dreams?Skaven dating sim or inquisitor Deus Ex clone in a Hive City.>expectations?Skitarii-trailer for Darktide. Thanquol trailer for Total Warhammer.
Lhykhis game when?
Chaos Demoness gacha game when?
>>739068128>Finally pull Lady Of Change>Game crashes>Open it back up>The Changeling is there instead
>>739068128Will you pull for the nurglesses too?
>>739068682>She loves ramming her STD-riddled rancid futa tentacle cuck up men's assholes, unlubed and raw>Her cum is literal vomit
>>739062364>The only unit in existence that literally has canon femboys in it.
>>739054562I started reading through those hamfisted, copyright friendly names and felt my eyes glazing overGod AoS is so shit
>>739070310GW at least isn't as bad as WotC where literally every character design they make now is non-whiteAt least not yet
>>739070310AoS is actually the best iteration of tabletop fantasy they've ever done.
>>739070310I'm reading the Horus Heresy series, book two and it's only False Gods did I read that Mersadie Oliton was black when one of the Astartes says to another 'Hey Loken I think that black girl Remembrancer was looking for you' I lol'd. Ok I'm new to the series so I didn't know before hand. I have read Constantine Valdor and I remember the chick in that who tried to pull a coup against Valdor was from Afrik as well, was also black.
>>739043194black holes and revelations
>>739070408>spoilerThey're getting there AnonPic related are some of the new models coming out for the new Spearhead
make a homm clone already gw
>>739070525Im sorry you read those. Watch out for Aaron Demski Bowden, he puts at least half the characters as nigs. Theres another guy who writes eldar books and he writes the gayest stuff.
>>739070607>all the actual named characters were white Hmmmm….
>>739070868It's to distract you from most of the infantry now being a horde of mutts
>>739070776>Watch out for Aaron Demski Bowden, he puts at least half the characters as nigs.Are you thinking of Mike Brooks? ADB's HH novels aren't like that.
>>739070776Bowden's Night Lords trilogy is one of the best sets of space marine books.Also, getting offended by mutts in 40k is proof that you don't get the setting.
Can we finally get that release date for DH and the 3rd dlc owlcat? Have you sucked off GW enough already?Holy shit, i feel like everything is taking ages because you now have to do what mommy gw says.Those niggers really need to stop using other peoples ips and just make their own setting
I just want a Boltgun and Rouge Trader DLC release date. Most likely thing to happen is a trailer for Space Marine 3
>>739071068I dont care about mutts because i can ignore the books description of skin colors. I am mad that Bowden has said he makes sure to have half the characters be minorities, which is just tokenism.
>>739070954you control the paints you use
>>739070525Something you'll pick up on alot is the repeated use of the dark skin female in a position of power. It's like a certain writers fetish and this was before woke shot started picking up too
>>739072179But not the way they market this shit
>SM IIGive Tactical class a cape and power sword
>>739072328sorry you're this fragile
>>739044392I hope it will improve the lore and setting. I really like the models in AoS.
>>739046832Ynead is essentially giving people who already own two armies the option to play a third army for FREE. Which is the one word that constitutes actual, real world heresy for 40k.
How does anyone manage to sink so many hours into sm2 that its still alive?Grinding gives barely anything outside of different armor sets and operations all feel the same, while the gameplay is pretty basic and shallow. Its fine for a single playthrough of compaign/operations, but i just dont understand how people keep playing it
i hope that one day we get an AoS city builder or an AoS Tide game (hopefully without playable stormcast). hell, i would enjoy a squad game based on warcry.
>>739073617mods
>>739072415>Give Tactical class a capeHe's getting capes, confirmed.>and power swordDevs outright refuse because they want Tactical to be weaker in melee than in range.
>>739074061Zero mods, taking a break while waiting for U13.It's simple and fun.
>>739068128bird sex
>>739073856I'd love a Fantasy city builder but the few AoS games there have been have flopped horribly, it's a poisoned chalice right now when it comes to vidya
>>739074221how many attempts did it need for 40k or Fantasy to have a game that didnt flop?
>>739043103Hear me out: Imagine a standalone video game set right in the middle of M35 (around the mid-35th Millennium). Because of the time period, the game could feature an official, canon First Founding Legion or an established canon successor chapter, but with a completely original cast of Space Marines. No tripping over modern 40k lore or Heresy-era named characters—just a totally blank slate for the squad and the campaign, while still using a famous, existing chapter.Which official chapter would make the best foundation for a game like that?Personally, I’m leaning heavily toward the White Scars. Think high-speed, fast-attack tactical gameplay—blitzing across massive maps, mounted combat, hit-and-run strikes, and just absolute high-speed violence.What canon chapter would you pick for a mid-millennium campaign, and what would the gameplay loop look like?
>>739073856Warcry would be fun if they adapted it 1-1 to a game. Wish mordheim had more liberties taken with it, personally.
Just made this.
>>739072415Funny how a tiny little appearance in one animation boosted the Scythes of the Emperor way way up the chapter popularity rankings.
>>739076102stop shitting up threads and go back to twitter, you faggot.
>>739043194>Hopes.A new Fantasy game as GW ordered yet another Fantasy game series to be turned into 40k slop.>DreamsA good AOS game. So that'll never happen>Expectations.Nothing but 40k slop.
>>739063735big banshee ass
>>739076102Lotta of the AoS minis are growing on me over time.
>>739076239Slit your wrists on r/aos you fat woke retard
>>739044018I wanted a big ass omnissian axe
>>739076241>Fantasy has been carrying the Warhammer game scene for a solid decade>Only stand out 40k release in the last decade was Space Marine 2.>Both Fatfish and CA are forced to go into the 40k mines and just like Obese Megalodon did before them, CA will produce slop that doesn't deserve the name and goodwill built from the previous fantasy games.It's never been so over.
>>739076373why do you keep going in to threads of franchises you neither engage with nor enjoy? go back to your tranny discord and then 41% yourself.
>>739076102Too many white men on the right
>>739043194WFRP RPG, please. God. Please.otherwise who gives a shit? Survivors looks cool. Space Marine 2 was boring, mid and short.
>>739076580I play Nighthaunt in AOS but IG in 40k. COS are fat gay and retarded. just like you.If anyone can speak about what makes a human army good, it's a guy who plays human armies. If you don't like IG or Human Empire but you just love COS, you're objectively eating shit out of a trough.
>>739076726sure thing buddy. you got btfo'd on /tg/ and now you crawl back to /v/. end your life already, you fat, indian fuck.
>But IG in 40k.The Leon picture was enough to make you seem like a redditer, but Guard just solidifies it desu.
>>739076641>WFRP RPGThat'd require GW to give a shit about Fantasy now that they have relented, released and abandoned TOW (outside of chinkslop) and are moving CA over to pump out 40k content for the rest of their lives
For context, these fags here>>739076824>>739076887Are upset that an anon didn't want to buy the new woke empire of age of sigmar. Then they sent a reddit raid to /tg/.All because a nigga like me doesn't wanna buy black toys. for shame
>>739077128dude, you are pretending to be someone else to defend yourself. that is incredibly sad. just leave already.
>>739077119You'd think they'd have more respect for the IP that's been carrying their games for ages.But I guess we always need more sloppy 40k titles that all mesh together.
>>739077229Why? Are you niggas at r/aos gonna come scold me? Why should I stop posting, the minis suck ass because you filled them with fat gay retarded dei shit. You're literally following me to scold me about not wanting to buy black toys. get the fuck over it retard
>>739077298The bleating hordes demand more spess muhreens, model now on sale for $65.99 plus tip
>>739077349stop being a schizo and just leave already. no one followed you, you just keep shitting up the same threads. go back to plebbit already if you cant stand being called a retard.
>>739077446Lmao I'm posting just fine here, if you don't want people complaining about black toys and woke shit then why aren't you on plebbit?
>>739043103YES YES YES!!!!!! H*CK YES!!!! NEW PRODUCT IS HERE!!!!!!!!
>>739077489you are clearly not someone engaging with the hobby, therefor your shitty takes can be ignored. you are incredibly mad that people dont celebrate you for being dumb. go back to your tranny discord.
>>739077680Why are you on 4chan?
>>739077730why are you, if you cant deal with being called a troglodyte.
>>739077489Based.>>739077680Cringe.
Ladies, ladies. It's Warhammer. You all belong on reddit.
>>739077847Why are you if you don't like me complaining about blacks, fats, trannies, women and the BBC replacing white people in medieval european culture with all of the above?
>he calls himself based>he spouts objectivly wrong information and thinks he makes a pointgo back to your tranny discord already.
>>739078164>he troons out when others call out wokehammer>calls other tranniesYou're a very confused person man.
>>739076474Omnissian axes are just as much a badge of office for tech priests as they are weapons. Besides, skitarii have all sorts of cool weapons like taser goads to make up for not getting an axe.
>>739043103Just let me know when games actually release or get discounted, I'm too old to get hyped by shit coming in the next week, much less several months or years down the line
>>739077298>You'd think they'd have more respect for the IP that's been carrying their games for ages.Buddy, Fantasy couldn't even carry itself.
>>739043194A lizardman game.
>>739054357Porn addiction isn't okay, anon.
I'm really curious how their going to write the Skitarii personalities, how many voice filters they're going to layer on top of them, and if they can speak Binary Cant with each other.
>>739080951having a "normal" and a "glitched" personality seems obvious to me, so what could the third be?
>>739070310not even a bad design desu
>>739076102It's crazy that they dropped the landsknecht style for something that just looks wickedly generic.
>>739060905>sprintby sigmar no
>>739080951There'll probably be one that's by the books, one that's like a ruststalker, and a pious one or something.
>>739072179>I can't correlate symptom with causenogs on the table mean noses in the board room
>>739070310post the webm where she cocks back the crossbow string and it doesn't actually loose the bolt when it fires
>>739064040>The video games are what onboard people.To the brand, not to miniature painting. At some people people nostalgic for the 2E starter box are going to start dying, at which point the number of people willing to spend a thousand bucks on two dollars worth of plastic is going to start rapidly diminishing unless they've done something to replace them in the interim.
>>739073856I'm kinda surprised no Fantasy Caesar or Pharaoh-like city builders exist
>>739081425At the end of the day they're a model company first and foremost.Despite being essentially the mascot of total war warhammer, on the tabletop empire were lucky to make it to the top 5 armies, and this despite a fairly sizeable range and being essentially the pov faction in a good majority of novels.I don't know how they've been doing in aos but I can't imagine it's been much better given that cities of sigmar as a faction only really existed to allow old players to keep using their collections.
>>739043194>HopesSkitarii for DarktideThat fucking weapon pack for VT2 already, Jesus Christ. It's been what, 2 years?RT Trazyn dlc proper trailerDH trailer with release dateEnd Times info for TWW>dreams?Vermintide 3>expectations?Mobileslop taking up spotlight>>739054215TW40K won't be on skulls, next update is at the end of June
>>739076504TW40K is already better than TWW. TWW is merely a soulless, dumbed down, sloppy clone of Rome2. TW40k already showcased breakthroughs in TW never seen before in series.
>>739045057GW didn't rethink their approach at all and it's explicitly what's great. Amount of worthless, broken, unfinished and abandoned garbage like Man o War being released is literally, utterly irrelevant. I will simply ignore it. But handing out license to anyone means that there is actually a chance of a gem being made, like Vermintide. And that one will be worth it.This is much better idea than keeping IP shut and trust suits to carefully chose only particular devs and publishers to release games in your IP (Disney with Star Wars and EA)
>>739083062why do you faggots keep saying vermintide 3 when not even half a year ago they said they weren't working on it and it's not even on planning phaseyou stupid fucking niggersthey are delaying the weapon pack because it's coming with the stromdorf maps
>>739083424Star Wars was giving the license to anyone and getting a gem every once in a while before EA and Disney stepped in desu
>>739044857>and we're supposed to believe "oh yeah they were always there lol you just never got to see them until now"This is explicitly fantastic and objectively the correct way to do it. It was never the intention to take for granted that what Codexes describe is a grand total of everything that is in galaxy. Galaxy is massive and Imperium ridiculously decentralized, dysfunctional feudal theocracy. There are an untold amount of factions, xenos and varying equipment in galaxy, which Codexes describe only a minuscule amount of. New units and factions should always be introduced this way, by acting that they were all there all along.
>>739083465it's in dreams section for a reasonwhat else are those useless swedes doing if not a next game then
>>7390761029/10
>>739083715nooo the only toys that exist in a million planets empire are the 79 or so different ones that exist on the warhammer.com store. this is rape of my culture
Just so y'all know that blue flash in the fog in the Darktide teaser was actually one of these cunts teleporting behind the two mooks.Corsairs soon.
>>739081425>landsknechtNot a fan of it, not a fan of cities either but landsknecht has been synonymous with Reddit at this point. Under represented? Maybe that’s a more apt term for the style, which I hope stays that way. It’s just a bunch of homo men in pajamas at the end of the day.
>>739089002Hell at least it's unique compared to this weird soulless fantasy slop. Point being it really could've been more inspired.
>>739083465Because making V3 would be the only good idea Fatshark could have, thus people want them to actually have a good idea for once.
>>739089543>making V3 would be the only good idea Fatshark could haveIt wouldn't.
>>739090195>Implying a V3 that actually went fully into the end times and expanded the enemy roster with demons and blight would be bad.>Can even throw in new skaven units, beastmen and maybe even Undead.For a duology that's set in the end times, it doesn't feel very end timesey. So yes, it would be a good idea.
>SM2They're holding an entire update hostage, also the entire Season 2 Pass is a waste of shekelsThe game with 250k players and a constant general on /vg/ finally perished>DoW4All the in-game videos they've shown are pretty mid but that's to be expected from a mid German studio, even an entire year later the game clips look like a complete and utter disaster>TW40kStill in development, the devs at Creative Assembly should shut the fuck up and just silently and diligently make the game instead of spoiling the hype for a delayed release; they really should only be talking once they have an alpha/beta that can be played by a select few/everyone
>>739045671>30k Republic Commando/Halo Reach ending on Istvaan 3 (never ever)istvaan 3 isn't the play. the play is Beta-Garmon. It's starts with alpha legion being alpha legion, and ends with the most titans dying in combat in one campaign, ever. It's has every scale, and unlike the culling on 3 or the dropsite on 5, there's room for the imperials and the traitors to have the initative.
>Year of our lord 20+26>Still no Gotrek and Felix action rpg >Tfw Brian Blessed is gonna kick it before GW decides to have a good idea for once.
>>739046243the canon ending of 2 is that vanilla ice was slighlty chaotic. Not a renegade, or defecting, but he wasn't the goodest of good boys. So he's scolded and sent to the eye of terror on a 100 year crusade.After that, nothing.
>trannyhammer with modern day GW and writersnah, I'm good, hopefully someone else pick up the grimdark mantle
>>739090327Yes, lets split the userbase again with a third chapter, wait for Fatshark to fix the game after 3 years and only then it will still have 25% of the content Vermintide 2 got.You fucking dumbass retard, the fact that the CEO announced they're not working on it because of this is the exact reason you won't see any Vermintide 3 until at least 2029.Have 2018 Vermintide 2, and to an extent Darktide, taught you fucking nothing?Besides, were you actually playing the game, you'd know we're very close to the conclusion of the End Times in Vermintide 2, Nagash just got resurrected and Archaon is making his way to Middenheim.You are most likely Darktide tranny seeking vengeance because ratclick is getting more attention than your dogshit GaaS slop game.
>>739066695>he unironically WANTS to play as the Jeet Marine, including the Jeet Marine's Aussie "journalist/Santa Monica writer" cum receptacle voicing a Sister of Battle holy fucking faggot
>>739043194BWC gets shown on stream which makes me relapse.
>>739046243The canon ending for Chaos Rising is the middle one, both Commander Vanilla Ice (named Aramus) and Thaddeus are sent on a penitent crusade in the Eye of Terror.Then the White Dwarf Primaris fluff about the Blood Ravens has them coming back with Vanilla Ice becoming the captain of the 4th company with Thaddeus being the veteran sergeant. Gaben Angelos is still Chapter Master with an ancient Cataphractii Terminator armour suit.Cyrus becomes 10th company captain (completely conflicts with DoW4 since 10th company are mostly scouts, neophytes, aspirants and reserves), Apollo Diomedes becomes the Blood Ravens' Master of Sanctity, Jonah Orion is Chief Librarian, Tarkus is a 1st company veteran ancient and Martellus is 2nd in command after an unnamed Master of the Forge.Davian Thule the venerable dreadnought is assigned to 4th companyGays Workshop also mentioned that in Winter Assault the Eldar canonically won, in Dark Crusade the Blood Ravens won and in Soulstorm the Orkz won
>>739092679I haven't been following development at all. Is it really that bad?
>>739093516jeetfag from SAAAROS is the voice of the Space Marine in Boltgun 2(granted, he WAS the voice of the same dude in the first game). imo much bigger problem is that his cumslut Alanah Pierce is voicing the second playable character, a Sister of Battle.
>>739043103>dawn of war dead>total war warhammer 3 was shit so im not touching the 40k one>space marine 2 was goodliterally what else is there to talk about
>>739092509>Nagash just got resurrected and Archaon is making his way to Middenheim.That's not that far into the End times, there would still be like three or four books worth of content happening
>>739093710>alanah fucked her way through the industry>jeet is her boyfriend for like a decade (i remember funhaus)>they work on games togetherdid he have to method act for saaros? do you think she tells him about all the upper management cock she has to swallow for her roles?
