How did it feel to have the cheapest Xbox 360 ?
something like this
>>739043920I wonder if some anon out there got a non-faulty one and still has it to this day
>>739043920>50-fucking-something % failure rateI don't understand how they got away with that. Like, just imagine the shitstorm the news would be if the PS6 had a coin flip chance of just dying.
It was nice of Microsoft to give us a cheap option, wonder if they will go that route with Helix
RROD was fixed when Falcon and Jasper revisions rolled in
>>739044356The only market that matters (yanks) got all their consoles expressed repaired in days when they broke. Unlike the rest of the world where Xbox support was and is shit.
>>739044378sir, your series s?
>>739044378Probably, the Series S was very popular.
>>739044503>>739044502if they could limit it down to displaying only 1080p that would be awesome
>>739044474And people wonder why xbox is just "lmao who cares" outside of the us market
>batteries needed for a controller to worklol
>>739044356i literally went through 4 of them, the last dying to a disc drive failure, then a year later - MS bricked my console for 'modifying my disc drive' which they did themselves during repairsi'd argue the 360 was the biggest disaster in gaming console history - it's just the outrage wasn't massively amplified through modern social media platforms because they didn't exist yet. everyone and their mother would hear about it if it happened now, and MS would be sued to oblivion by palm-rubbing jewsi'm quite quick to shutdown people that have nostalgia for the 360 era cus they remember teabagging people in halo 3
>>739043871Actually good. Mine's still working, I checked it few weeks ago.
>>739044356i think it was because put it in a cramped cabinet underneath a gargantuan CRTall the heat trapped in there affected the heat sinksmine broke in 2011 because the disc drive gave upi used to hit it with a stick for a minute or two to get it to start reading the disci had to install every game to hard drive in case the disc drive stopped during a matchit was like being a slave driver
The only difference would be hard drive sizes. this one probably coming with none. which is fine. Use a USB flash drive, they're better anyway.
I bought a core near launch with a hdd separate because the "premium" was sold out and they were hard to come by.It was a fun time.
>>739044356I was one of the lucky few who had a launch xbox that never fully red ringed. i only had to replace the drive one time. however i recently tried to used it and it fucking red ringed. sucks cuz i really wanted to see what i still had downloaded on my account
>>739044030Without repairs no.
>>739044356>I don't understand how they got away with thatThey didnt tho? Cost them billions in servicing and it still get brought up 20 years later.
you now rememberhttps://youtu.be/30lnA-haJiM?si=VAJamHqiJp5_c51L
>>739044030Me. I still have my arcade 360 that never broke down. Only downside Ive faced with it is a stuck disc tray that you need to slap to get open.
>>739048070I bought Adam Jensen sunglasses and they looked really stupid so I had to make my entire guy look stupid ironically to justify it.
>>739048070comfiest music
>>739048070imagine coming home in the late 2000s-early 2010s and this is what you hear, no worries, no stress just Xbox
I loved and miss this era of the 360.https://youtu.be/5NQfNvQm96c?si=rKt7OnYZvSrVBzE5
>>739048070>>739048283>>739048378>>739048945https://youtu.be/bjQ7jZpo3pU?si=humBm0q705My8I2D
>>739049410I find it surreal that I was experiencing this era back then, now it looks like some video from the 90s but at one point it was my dialy life. >wild
>>739043871at the time the digital downloads were smallcastlavania breaking the 512 MB limit years later
>>739044356>50-fucking-something % failure rateThis happened because jeets were involved. There are no other explanationWe cannot forget how disastrous Windows Vista was at the same time.Microsoft really learned their lesson during that period to never delegate too much stuff to jeets.
I WANT TO GO BACK
>>739043871i currently have the black one, i think its the Xbox 360 S which I got for $15 almost 10 years ago, I always loved the aesthetic of the original white one though the one i got was unused because it apparently had a manufacturing flaw with the CD drive.I saw it was never opened or tampered with but the disc drive was stuck. So i opened it, fixed it and use it every now and then to play GTA4, GoW, Mirror's Edge and Ninety-Nine Nights
>>739044030No such thing. The original model's heatsink was secured by an "x brace," a cheap piece of metal wrapping over top of it and holding it down via tension. Over time the metal will inevitably warp from heat and lift the sink off the chip leading to death.I had a bunch of these units because all the aftermarket dvd drives they used could have their FW flashed to play burned games. Good times.
my 16 year old 360 never got RROD but can't read discs anymore. shit sucks
>>739050221That's a long time of survival. My ps2s lasers or what died in a year or two, went through three of them and just said fuck it and bought 360. By that point it was kinect bundle so I didn't have any issue with it
>>739043871>no HDMIwhat were they thinking!
>>739043871I still remember the first thing I tried to do was play an og xbox gamejust to be told you need a harddrive for thatand when I eventually got the harddrive it force installed a system update that removed the blade ui
>>739043920never happened to me, you're just dirty and brown and don't take care of your shit.
>>739048187My 360 pro has the same issue. I went as far as taking it apart to try and fix it but I said fuck it kept slapping it
>>739044030Doubtful, none of the launch motherboard revisions are reliable at all. There are very few white 360 models with a good motherboard.
>>739051269in 2005 people were still on CRTs so yeah
>>739048187oh shit same here
>>739051497Man, blade UI was peak comfy, everything that came after was a straight downgrade
>>739044557i know people like you love to imagine, hey, i don't "need" to play games at more than 1080p, why don't they just make a cheaper version that only works at 1080p?because that's not how it works. the big boy powerful consoles, ostensibly meant to run games at 4K, already cut corners and upscale games from below 1080p to run with the graphics and performance the developers want.when they cut corners even harder for weaker hardware, you get even lower resolutions, even lower framerates. you get games that look and run like shit and say, duhh, why come the developers can't optimize better? why didn't they just drag down the magic quality slider i think exists, so that it runs as well as on high end hardware, but looks imperceptibly worse on my 15 year old TV?because nothing works that way and never will. if they could "just" make a console that gave you everything you wanted with no downsides and made them money, they would. they can't and won't.
>>739044885Lmao this retared poorfag got teabagged constantly
>>739044356>"got away with"they didn't?It was a massive puke stain on the company's white shirt that, as you can see, still gets brought up to this very day. And it cost them a fuckton of money to repair/replace all those broken consoles.
>>739044439Now we have RDOD plaguing the later 360s so enjoy your ticking time bomb.
>>739044030I have an original model 360 Pro, it was a dirt cheap GameStop refurb but I haven't tried to use it in several years.I just like to assume it's still working. >>739044356>got away withThey didn't, like at all. Others mentioned the huge bath they had to take on repairing and replacing all of the consoles to avoid a big shitstorm, but there was still a shitstorm in gaming magazines and forums. And not only that, it cost them the console war, they waited what, six years to get the resigned Slim out? In the meantime their brand reputation was so deep in the shitter that even Sony managed to recover from their disastrous start and sell more PS3s than 360s.
>>739043920>got this once>tried the towel trick>mfw it actually workedStill functional to this day.
>>739055178Anon what you just said is completely retarded
>>739050198>No such thingThere are still new old stock 360s out there which have never been used and so never exposed to any heat stress. In fact, one popped up on Ebay UK about a month ago. I was considering bidding, but I really had no use for it.
>>739043871my parents got it day 1, was bretty good except for >>739043920had to get 3 or 4 replacements in a 2 year span. switched to pc shortly after.
The same as a PS2 you got a memory card and popped the disc in.
>>739056087>Old capacitors, old drive belts and old cooling pasteMost are easy to replace. I hope the softmod reaches og xbox tier. id rather just load everything off the hdd.
>>739044720The fact that a lithium pack was optional, was one of the few things good about the 360 controller, even if it means some little timmies are currently blowing them up by leaving batteries in a them in a hot shed.
>>739057129It's not capicitors LMAO. It's literal GPU death aka chip death on the latest boards.Just get a Series at this point
>>739056720Oh I'm sure there are still working units out thereI just meant that the red ring is a guaranteed result of flawed design, no original model 360 is immune
>>739058453Doesn't happen on model S and E.
>>739048070I wonder what the bottom of an avatar's shoe looks like...
>>739043871A sickening consoomer gamer experience that made me want to become a PC gamer from that point forward.Just now recovering from it nearly 20 years later.
>>739048070>zoomers will never understand WOOSH WOOSH beep beep beep bop
>>739058674>Doesn't happen on model S and E.I got bad news for you.... Those models are the worst affected. My S model died last year from GPU death. I suggest you do some research .https://www.reddit.com/r/xbox360/comments/1mculj6/rip_my_xbox_360_e/
I had the arcade and it was kinda a huge scam. By the time you bought a hard drive it was just as much as the premium/proI miss those days tho, 360/ps3 was the last kino gen
>>739059068>linking to redditHoly shit, people there are saying the S and E are actually more failure-prone than final revision originals? What the fuck was Microshaft doing when they designed that shitheap console.
>>739059489Dude just google S and E models dying and you'll find a post every week of someone's S or E model that died. Their is a flaw in the S and E boards that cause GPU death which is chip death which cannot be fixed and you have to just throw it out. Did you ever why people in the scene had backup 360s? I get it. You own a S or E model and it will die soon but luckily PC emulation is making strides :-)
>>739056535I still have my og 360 and I can attest to this, it still works with the towel trick.
>>739059821You clearly can't read.
>>739058895well bam there it is!
the dying GPUs were fixed in 2008 when they switched to high tg underfill. if you get a dead GPU on a jasper or later it's because you, the owner, did something wrong.every broken xbox 360 S i have ever seen was broken because of user error, e.g. spilled drinks, torn cables, roach infestation. i have never even seen a broken xbox 360 E.the main hardware issue on consoles with good GPUs is corrupt flash storage. you can replace it.the local sped saying all 360s are equally susceptible to GPU death because his S died is trolling and doesn't believe what he's telling you. ignore him. buy any 360 made 2009 or later that doesn't have 4GB flash built in and you're good.
>Red Ring of Death was caused by the use of low-temp underfill on the GPU die, which would pass the glass transition point at the chip's normal operating temperature, this took 4 years to correct and was known to be a design flaw even at the time (the 360s own CPU wasn't made this way and never fails)>discs can be scratched by even the slightest vibration while spinning, this was known during development but Peter Moore didn't want to increase costs by literally 50 cents per console to add bumpers that would hold discs in place and prevent this. This was never fixed.>The disc scratching issue could have been avoided at no cost by slowing the disc drive down, but Moore wanted it to have the fastest read rate possible>even hardware revisions that fixed the underfill issue and lowered the overall operating temperature of the 360 by reducing the size of the chips and power supply are still subject to RROD failures because the console's airflow is fucked by the tacked on HDD>360 S and E models have such bad capacitors that they were failing within 5 years>360 S and E models that were totally resigned from the original still fry their GPUs anyway>nearly 70% of 360s were defective off the line until the S revision>$1.15 billion+ spent warranty-ing defective consoles It is shocking to me that they basically got away with it, to the point they were selling RROD merchandise on the official Xbox store as a gag.
I've almost got one in 2009, but RROD stories have put me on hold
>>739063494I've been using a fucking GameStop refurbished console manufactured in 2006 for the last decade and it's still working just fine.
>>739064175We were poor so I was scared shit will break down, also I remember people told me to look for a certain serial number on the box while buying (to pick jasper revision) and that has put me off too
>>739064518Yeah it is best to know what revisions are which when buying, the reason so many 360s are today listed as UNTESTED NO CORDS is because they're early revisions that red ringed and you can sell an untested one for like $30 vs $5 for a brick.You don't need to know the serial numbers, easiest way is to look at the manufacture date/power supply info or physical jack if nothing else. Xboxes made after 2007 are generally safe regardless of which version they are.
Regardless of how shit it was, the 360 has to be the sexiest console ever made>blinding pure white with a dash of metallic on the disc tray>soft, rounded edges with subtle curvature >the pleasant green glow of the power button
i think i was one of like four people ever to buy the 360 (E model) over the xbone when both were available and it was purely because the xbone didn't have GTA V and minecraft on launch and didn't get 360 backcompat support until it had both of those games natively anyway. games really are what sells a console i suppose.
>>739044030my 360 RROD'd because no one had told me that piece of shit was prone to over-heating
>>739044557>cucksoles higher than upscaled 540plol. lmao even
You had to buy a memory card to save games, which put the price to like 320. Only 80 dollars less than the actual good model with a 20 gig hard drive. So after 1 game you were paying that price anyway.Kind of a complete waste of time.
>>739044356>got away withretard
>>739062421Ive had my 360 S since Christmas 2011 and its still going strong. Finally getting sucked.
I forget that /v/ are just aging millenials at this point.
>>739067752Microsoft was fucking insane, the launch configuration had a goddamn 205w power supply that eventually was able to be dropped to something like 135w.>>739068146The memory card idea was cool actually, but it's bullshit the Core didn't pack one in. The HDD is a big part of the reason the console runs so hot, I read that they added the holes on the side of the console after they realized the disk caddy blocked most of the top grille.
>>739068465Like anything else, it's a gamble. The S/Es typically had problematic capacitors but not all of them did, and they only Red Ring if allowed to overheat many times (despite a complete redesign the S has comparable airflow to the original and runs about as hot if not hotter).
>RROD ruins Xbox and leaves them in shambles while the PS3 had the comeback of the century and lead us to modern Snoy>RROD never happens or MS addresses it quickly, PS3 slim is too little too late and Sony leaves the games businessHard to choose a timeline.
>>739043871Idk, I had whatever the good one was called that came with a detachable hard drive. Played it for like a year then got the 360 Elite when it came out and it kicked ass.
>>739065663heck yeah, the later models were so generic and soulless
>>739071026I want to live in a timeline where Xbox 360 was a tank hardware wise, no rrod, no stuck dvd tray
>>739073352>snow white>lime green>sky blue >silver or Spanish grayKino
>>739074017for me m, when I think 7th gen, Xbox 360 is what comes up firstSnoy may have won in the end, but it was the only time Microsoft had the upperhand in the first half
the wired controller that came with my arcade remains my main controller for pc to this day
>>739074315Nintendo won thougheverbeit
>>739044030my 06 build date premium still works albeit after being sent off for repair to ms multiple times
>>739044030I still have mine somewhere. The disc try is fucked but it never got the red light.
>>739043871What was the difference between Xbox 360 Core and other versions?
>>739074315Ps Tripple should have launched in White.
>>739074315Those early PS3 days were ROUGH. People forget how horrendous the PS3 was at launch>699 or something wild>few games>multiplats ran like shit>psn suckedlist goes on>>739075465Core (later the arcade) came with no hard drive, a wired controller and someone correct me if I'm wrong, it may not have came with a mic either. Ah, the days of getting a mic in the box even if it was a piece of shit.
>>739043871>>739043920Jasper supremacy My 2008 Japser 360 never RROD. the disc tray died right before switching to PC.
>>739075623The later falcons were pretty good too. I got one of the early 60gb models in 2008 thinking yep this has to be a jasper, nope, just a falcon with a 60gb hard drive. 60gb sounds tiny now tho lol
fun fact you can't play halo 3 split screen with a 32gb usb drive as the storage device but you can with the og 20GB hdd
>>739075620This is so uncomfortable but I must call this squeaker a faggot
>>739075623>>739075682Falcons are good, Jaspers are better, Tonkasets are the best. Main thing with the Falcon is that while the underfill epoxy was changed finally to a high-temp version, the GPU is still the 90nm type, though a different make than earlier ones. For the Jasper, the GPU was finally shrunk to 65nm, and in Tonkas they used the superior revision of that smaller chip.
>>739075860The feels manI think i still have mine in a box o shitwe've lost so much, 7th gen was a good balance of everything
>>739075514Maybe on planet retard.
>>739075331Look at this waggler and laugh
>>739075465No hdmi, no hdd, wired controller and no chome-like disc tray
>>739076223Arcades did in fact get HDMI at some point after it was introduced though.
>>739076223All true except for hdmi, that came later on all consoles I believe in mid 2006
>>739075620yea even with microsoft's extreme jewry the 360 was still cheaper, had better online support and had a bigger library of third party games at the start. It might've beaten the ps3 in lifetime sales if they'd just fixed all the fucking problems it had.
>>739076408The fact that the S came out AFTER the PS3 Slim, despite the headstart and fact that that RROD was much more common than YLOD was proof that MS bosses were incompetent. The PS3 slim eliminated all the cost issues the original version had and also fixed the majority of YLOD failures that were the same root as RROD, more than a year before Xbox did anything legitimate to modernize the system.
>>739076408Honestly I don't even think RROD killed the 360's reputation much, it was basically forgetting that the 360 was about the no nonsense gamer. By the end of the 7th gen, the PS3 had redeemed itself while the 360 went all gay.Kinect killed the 360 and combined with the Xbox One, it was basically the nail in the coffin for Xbox as a brand.
>>739076278>>739076291True true, I just looked it up and actually every version of launch x360 did not had hdmi, even the premium one. So yeah core or not at the beginning you had no hdmi either way
>>739043871what's it with zoomers trying to turn everything into a "core"dude, it was just a console, not an aesthetic.
>>739076408I managed to snag a 50 dollar phat PS3 at a pawn shop. That thing was a heater, made my room so fucking hot which sucks when you live in Texas. I remember MW2 and 1 being full of hackers, shit was wild how much better the quality was on 360. Paying for online somehow did give you a better service
>>739076574I think MS had the chance to shake off the RROD stuff if they had continued to focus on games but someone decided they needed to chase the Wii and that PS3 was an afterthought. The first nail was New Xbox Experience and it got worse from there, meanwhile 360 had no games after 2011. They took weirdly diverging paths, PS3 was an over-engineered piece of shit that was intended to be the crux of your home theater entertainment system, while Xbox 360 was a games machine, and then suddenly Microsoft wanted 360 to be some entertainment hub, that they absolutely double down with on Xbone while Sony walked it back for PS4.
>>739076638?
>>739076638The first 360 was called core on the box. You had Core, Elite and Arcade.
>>739076781NXE was fine (I assume you're talking about the 08 dash refresh) as it added some neat social stuff. Maybe that's a detriment to a game console tho. Sony was also doing retarded shit like playstation homeBut the next major revision for the 360 dashboard was horrendous.I miss the blades tho just because it was such a well thought out and vibrant UI. God it was so good.
>>739076974Blades + FAT Xbox 360 shell = peak aesthetics
>>739076638Shut the fuck up insecure little zoomer
>>739076818>>739076872THAT'S THE JOKE>>739076974Right, XBL Avatars felt like a weird chase of the Miis and even PS Home which was a total flop. The actual dashboard wasn't bad but the messaging from MS changed and suddenly it was about social features and Netflix and Facebook integration... All shit the Wii never really pushed despite having some of it. Wii was social locally while Xbox really wanted to ride the wave of social media.At the same time someone woke Kaz Hirai's ass up and they focused on PS3 as a game machine at the same time developers actually learned how to leverage the Cell. Sony, somehow, beat MS to the revision war, got third parties to try on their ports, and ate market share while MS just tried to fix the 360 hardware as cheaply as possible (despite losing billions on its issues).
We’re just gonna ignore the fact that some games even ran better on the 360?
>>739077564Generally Japanese games are better on PS3 but not always before 2012. Really a weird console generation.
>>739075514>ps tripleThat shit was monAAAY. Slick. Black. Like my hair, bitch.
>>739044030Not unless you opened it up. All the Phats are time-bombs.
>>739075514Holy fuck the super slim is ugly. I love the other two, wish we had gotten white and the original silver color out of the gate... MGS4 gray was as close as we got on silver.
>>739077685It took forever for developers to finally figure out how to properly utilize the PS3's full capabilities, and by then the PS4 was already right around the corner. The 360 provided a much easier development environment.
>>739078216Depends on the models. Falcons have the biggest chance of dying.
>>739078554Not at all, unless you mean over those that are still alive.
>>739043920This was patched with node shrinks and revisions with actual cooling
>>739079457Oddly it had nothing to do with node sizes or cooling, the adhesive that TSMC was forcing on people at the time literally melted at the GPU operating temperature. They did fuck the ventilation up and had fuck-huge dies and power supplies, but the insane failure rate was because of the glue and also MS asking for the cheapest wafer possible.
>>739043920>At friends house>He gets RRoD>Tells me how to fix it with the "towel trick">Wrap the xbox in towels and let it overheat for like 20 minutes>Surprisingly it works, xbox boots up just fine>Go to change the game out>hear *click, click, crank*>Doesn't open>Click the open button again>Hear the same noise>Realize we just melted the disc tray shut
>>739079810Kek Reminds me of those "intercooler RROD armor" accessories that would literally melt onto your console
>>739048070Rare dedicating resources and time on essentially Miis was really weird. Like Avatars got neglected even worse than Miis did because no other company gave a shit about them except Rare.
>>739079881KEK WHAT THE FUCK
>>739078749>>739078554>>739078216Wrong Xenon and Zyphrs were 100% chance of ringers ringers. Falcon (and jasper) have a per capita report rate of <10%. I had a Jasper myself and it never RROD.
>>739044885>i'd argue the 360 was the biggest disaster in gaming console history - it's just the outrage wasn't massively amplified through modern social media platforms because they didn't exist yet.They fucking did. Social media and youtube were huge in 2008 and it was how I learned about RRoD in the first place. It was accepted because americans were and are cattle that bought the consoles anyway. I mean the top Nvidia cards self-combust and that's considered just fine despite them costing north of a thousand dollars.
>unreliable>shitty controller>shitty backwards compatibility>pay to play online>no hdmi, no wifi, no bluray>overall more expensive>no gamesHow tf sony lost to this piece of crapit
>>739044030I got one. It got RROD'd. They gave me another one, for free. That one got RROD'd too and they gave me another one, for free too. It got RROD'd too and they gave me a fourth one, for free again. Still working to this day. Good times
>>739044356The 360 had a lot of hype and microsoft literally didn't have enough time to stress test their consoles, people wanted it NOW. They also literally couldn't keep up with demand for a good while, which led to them making a "revision" that used shittier components, namely the capacitors. And unlike snoy, they actually DID admit their fuckups and would just mail you another 360 if yours had the RRoD.
>>739080501>>shitty controller>>overall more expensive
>>739080501PS3 outsold 360 in the end. >>739080570>didn't have time>too much demandMicrosoft rushed the thing out and that created the hype. The announcement was in May 2005 and it released in November. They literally had engineers asking to stop production and rework certain things because of the insanely low (~30%) yields off the line, but were ignored so they could meet the launch window. Microsoft knew from the beginning that it was unreliable, destroyed discs, and had less than ideal GPU assembly, yet they pushed that shit out anyway, because THEY couldn't stomach the losses the Hueg was causing. The first revision was the Zephyr which has just as shit caps as the Xenon, and they didn't put a real fox out until late 2008. They never once admitted they were wrong, they absorbed a 1.2bn dollar bath while trying to put cheap bandaids on their designs until it just became impossible with the PS3 essentially relaunching. The only reason they pushed this shit out in 05 was to beat the other companies to the punch, because they knew they wouldn't stand a chance otherwise.
>>739080501>ps3More expensive, no online moderation with shit servers, less DLC, less FPS exclusives, no friends to play with you on it because of price. This is someone who had both but had to get a 360 to play with family and friends.
>>739081056PS3 was cheaper, retard.
>>739080501>>739081184You're just spouting random bullshit, worst excuse for a consolewar fag I have seen in a long time. Did dementia cause this?
>>739081184PS3 was five hundred nintey nine us dollars and had no games for several years, the cheap version was still $499Xbox 360 Pro launched at $399 and Live was $60 per year, and it actually had fucking games.
>>739081530the xbox live was kinda kino tooit always worked and at the time seemed to be constantly evolving with new features
>>739081915360 XBL was really forward thinking, top tier matchmaking and a Steam-type store all on console. Of course paid access blows but compared to PSN or NWFC it was revelatory
>>739081530>cheap version was still $499, Xbox 360 Pro launched at $399The $299 Xbox360 version was a scam bait because the user would be 100% required to purchase everything else separatelyInitially $300 for the consoledown the road:>$100 20gb hdd>$100 wifi adapter>$20 rechargeble kit>$40 for a cable to be able to play games in HD>$200 HD DVD Player addon (to match the bluray movie quality)>$80 to be able to play onlineTotal $840 in just 12 months, ($640 if no desire for HD movies)We can't forget that the first Xbox 360 owners would almost certainly need to buy a new console later on due to the insane failure rates.As you can see, an extra $100 for a PS3 was a huge deal considering what a ps3 had to offer. But Sony lowered the prices just a few months after the initial launch. So this perpetual $499, $599 is another zoomer bullshit.
>>739081462>>739081530>>739081915Retarded samefag schizo.
>>739076408I was thinking about how ahead of the curve Microsoft was on console stuff.PS2 online didnt have an account for "PS2", you had to sign up individually with the provider of each game. Microsoft changed that on the Original Xbox with a system wide "gamertag".Xbox 360 launched with achievements, and everybody not on Xbox thought it was super gay (I was on Xbox and I still think this) but now every platform besides Nintendo has a "stupid checklist" attached.The Xbox One was all in on digital. A crime against humanity. I cant sell my used games? Also literally 1984 I dont want a Kinect device listening. Now everything is digital and people "Ayo Alexa/Google/Chat GPT/etc." all the time. Its just kinda funny that they are at the bottom all things considered.
>>739080843Zoomies are the Vanilla Ice generation.
>>739083112The low IQ schizo ignores all the shit you needed to spend to actually play. Controllers even had their own morbid toll feature with replaceable AA batteries.
>>739083116okay anon
>>739083112Autism? You literally didn't need any of that besides the HDD, and Live sub if you wanted to go online. PS3 was loaded up with multimedia features that made it cost a fuckload more out the gate, you could not get by with a $499 20 gig machine because Blu Ray had abysmal seek times that required almost every single game to be installed to play it.You didn't need the WiFi dongle because it had an Ethernet port. You don't need rechargeable batteries. you don't need to play in HD (720p btw) in 2005. You don't need HDDVD that was already dead by then. The online was superior.Sony would drop prices but still have no games, in order they had: Resistance, Uncharted, MGS4. This is over nearly 2 years btw.
>>739083112I just found out that the core version comes with a wired controller.What a piece of trash.
>>739083545>You literally didn't need any of thatabsolute fucking cope
>>739083614You don't schizo. The PS3 was overpriced because of its bullshit and MS at least had the foresight to make those optional. Nobody wanted a PS3 to fucking run Linux and be two consoles and also have a printer hookup and TF card slot.
I wouldn't know. I'm white.
>>739043871Xbox 360 was and still is strong here in brazil thanks to piracy. I remember getting one in 2010 with the LTU exploit.Good days.
If anyone is interested in old video game stores catalogues/ads: https://spritecell.com/bp3-2000/
>>739077564Most multi plats ran better on the 360 than on the PS3.
>>739043871Does anyone else remember the video that came with the console that showed behind the scenes of making the 360 like all the different designs they had?
>>739083112I remember some this orange Xbox Live cards. I had like 5 or 6 that I never used and kept in my game cases
>>739043871Still the saddest think about the 7th gen for me is how popular old IPs back then like Burnout, Perfect Dark, etc didn't make it after it ended
>>739085634They didn't make it because the publishers basically raped and pillaged the studios.
>>739044378it wasn't a cheap option, it was the nickel and dime option.
>>739043871>parents retarded and dirt poor>i work on local farms for cash once i hit middle school>buy a 360 with fallout 3>proceed to have fun and fall in love with gamesi used to be deathly afraid of raiders and the giant ants
>2005>playing games at 1280x720>2005 + 21>still playing games at 1280x720
>>739048187There's a rubber band that acts as a pully that builds up with gunk. take it out with tweezers, clean it with rubbing alcohol then use tweezers to hook it back on.
>>739044356100% failure rate actually, same with the PS3.All GPUs manufactured by TSMC between 2004 and April 2008 had defective underfill layers that tore the die from the substrate.Look up NVIDIA bumpgate if you want to know more.PS3s lasted a bit longer because of the 65c temperature target compared to the Xbox 360 temp target of 85c so they got less damage from each heating cycle.
I have a MW2 Xbox Circle I'm trying to get rid of.These things are so expensive to ship, Im wondering if its even worth it to sell.
Ps3s die too, this gen just sucked ass if we are being honest
I always wanted a 360 but I ended up with a ps3. My aunt gave me my cousin's ps3 because he was suspended for smoking weed at school.
>>739084813I play on Playstation primarily now but my distaste of snoys started here.>hmmm looks like this version has the upper hand>UHHH FFFSHHHHSHHHH DADDY BILL MUST HAVE GAVE YOU A FAT CHECK YOU FUCKING SHILL YOUR TELLING ME THE CELL IS WEAK??
My brother still has one from 07 and all he plays on it is LMA manager and some lego games. I genuinely have no idea how that thing is still alive. The console is still going strong too and he's never had a single problem with it. This guy doesn't even hoover or dust either. Meanwhile I went through like 3 in one year. Very strange.
>>739089494when we stop being dishonest with ourselves, all the consoles that have ever had fans in them are garbage
>>739074315playstation exist in 30 more countries than xbox. Of course it wins by default, the fact that xbox sold as much while being in less countries is impressive on its own
>>7390872862004 is stretching it but yes, it's a weird thing that happened and sounds like a conspiracy, yet it really wasn't so much.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0UMG3uaVYZl
>>739068465Was this game as good as the first one? I played the shot out of the first game
>>739087286>>739093362Was it really the fault of TSMC and not Nvidia? TSMC just made the chips that were ordered, if they fucked up wouldn't Nvidia or ATi have intervened and fixed it? In the end it took the console makers doing an entire redesign to get the chips right, which says either Sony/Microsoft insisted on the busted designs or Nvidia/ATi did so and wouldn't admit guilt. We know Nvidia chips in laptops were also shitting themselves at the time, what was ATi/AMD's situation?Interesting to note that the Wii was also using ATi graphics although they were based on Flipper specs from the GCN, yet no one ever reported GPU failures on the Wii at least not to that extent.
>>739043871I bought an "arcade" model.l back in the day. Don't know what the difference is. Still works, I was gonna sell it so I deleted my gamer profile and everything. Now it just takes up space in a drawer.
You're telling me that most every single microprocessor made for about 5 years in the late 2000s was defective? Regardless of maker or device? Just because some factory fucked it up? Seems insane.
>>739093362This video does not work for me.Youtube says it's not available anymore.>>739093752>Was it really the fault of TSMC and not Nvidia?From what I've read back then TSMC outsourced their packaging to another company (UMC I think) and it's debated whether it was TMSC or the other company that was responsible.>We know Nvidia chips in laptops were also shitting themselves at the time, what was ATi/AMD's situation?Aside from the Xbox 360 GPU, you can find lots of forum threads from the time of peoples ATI GPUs dying and It's just as hard to find working ATI cards from then as it is NVIDIA cards, but yeah I think ATI got away with it.>Interesting to note that the Wii was also using ATi graphics although they were based on Flipper specs from the GCN, yet no one ever reported GPU failures on the Wii at least not to that extent.I thought this was an interesting point so I looked it up and apparently NEC was the foundry for the Flipper and Hollywood chips, presumably some Japanese company did the packaging and didn't use the defective underfill.Here are three interesting but very long videos about it (over 3 hours in total)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qKtS_uxdcUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0UMG3iVYZIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjtRjGPLhI>>739095016Intel and AMD made their own CPUs in their own fabs so they weren't affected, the Xbox 360 and PS3 CPUs were made by IBM so they weren't affected either.Back then TSMC were one of like 12 competing chip foundries unlike today were they're the top dog.
>>739044030I've got an OG Xbox from 2003 soft-modded with an 80GB Seagate IDE HDD from 2003 as well in it and they still works perfectly in 2026. Even the disc drive still works and ejects properly too. I did remove the clock capacitor around 2018 though.
i just ignored it and played gamecube until halo reach came out then got called nigger on it alot then my power went out during updating and it bricked so yeah cool
>>739095586>until halo reach came out then got called nigger on it alotVgh... the good old days... I can't believe they took this from us...
>>739051269Not only that but Xbox 360 was even designed to still use memory cards too. 2005 was still retro.
>>739095462Well you probably have already seen the video since you linked to this dude's channel but where a not broken link.https://youtu.be/Za7WTNwAX0c?si=YqtjiCZNnHE5ls6DStill think the whole thing is insanity, someone insisted on using bad adhesive for chips and that became normal practice until they started dying en Masse
>>739044030My disk tray is stuck. I tried playing it last year but the thing wouldn't open up.
Finally i can post this meme from 2005 featuring everyone's favorite brazillian: rei-rom from reirom-age.com/opa-ages.com
Remember the owls? SO WACKY! XD
>>739098749>used to have soulful ouls>now only gay frogs and jaks
How is it the richest company on Earth couldn't design even one stable functional console, when Sega could make one loaded with bespoke one of a kind chips and have it work for 30+ years? Fuck Microsoft.
>>739043920>>739044356AFAIK the only piece of tech in existence with a higher failure rate was a Dell-based prebuilt. They were so horrendously shit that landfills were loaded with them.It's nutty to think the two main failure rates in the 360, the thermal paste and the disc drive, could have been prevented with like $2 worth of parts.
>>739098808>couldn't design even one stable functional consoleRetard.
>>739098932Every piece of shit Microsoft makes is unstable and broken.
Most gamers thought Microsoft shot themselves in the foot with their retarded decision to release the Core, because they knew it would fuck up how games would be made. They knew how important the hard drive was by then.But Sony made an even worse decision with the PS3's pricing, converting even the biggest Playstation fanboys. People were already bracing themselves for a high price for the PS3, but not what Sony announced.>>739098781nah, if you were old enough, that shit was old and gay a week later. only teens kept it going until they got old enough too.
>>739043920>unplug console>plug it back in
>>739098808all saturn fans are japanese larpers, you can't boast about japanese games you can't read, the only ones that made sense importing are marvel fighting games and that's it. And even that needed additional chip to play normally so it wasn't cheap either
>>739077104Why did they shelve the Blades instead of optimizing them?
>>739098871>Dell-based prebuiltNow I need to go dig up one of those things, I'm intriguedWas it any specific model?
>>739101013https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbhfZ2UXc4wThis was it, from what I recall. I remember a lot of these PCs being used in my college because Dell repaired a lot but couldn't get rid of them, so just gave them away to educational facilities for ripping apart.
For the record, the launch 360 did NOT come with uno, it came with hexic
>>739087286>PS3s lasted a bit longerEarly xbox360 models (no hdmi port) are rareEarly fat ps3 models (4 usbs backwards compatible) are easily found (mine still works)It was only recently that the misconception about the PS3's YLOD became apparent.A simple replacement of the NEC tokin capacitors, which generates the syscon errors 1001 or 1002, brought many fat PS3s back to life from ylod. Check Computer Booter on youtube.
BRING HIM BACKBRING HIM BACKBRING HIM BACK
>>739044356>I don't understand how they got away with thatThey didn't. They had multiple class action lawsuits and were forced to implement a repair and replacement service that costs them over a billion dollars. That and a well timed slim model and price cut from Sony was a big part of the PS3 eventually outselling the 360 for the rest of their lifespans after an abysmal launch and the 360 launching a year earlier. In what way did they even remotely "get away with it?"
>>739101131Thanks anon
>>739083742You are a retarded nigger
>>739050050Sasuga Ainz-sama!
>>739043920I fucking panicked when I got the 4 rings one once. And then my friend just told me it was the cable and I just went on gaming like nothing happened.
>>739043871Could you still connect one of these online, sub to game pass, and play the Xbox/Xbox 360 options avaliable there?
>>739102751Nah not on the 360. Game Pass doesnt go backwards. But if you play the game on 360 and save it to the cloud you could use the game pass version on a new console. 360 goes forwards.
>>739102990And continue your save, I mean.
>>739102990That sucks. But say, I boy Lost Odyssey from Game Pass and then connect my Xbox 360, will I be able to download that game there?
>>739103064if you buy lost odyssey from the xbox store, it should show up in your 360 download history. just be warned the marketplace on the 360 itself is shutdown; you have to buy the game on xbox.com or a newer gen console, then you can find it in your download history on the 360 dashboard
Some of the worst launch titles in the history of gaming. Fucking Kameo? Fuck that stupid fucking game
>>739103124When it launched I only remember seeing a boxing game to promote its graphics. Kameo felt like its being thrown to the sides by most magazines, as if it was just something that was there but it wasn't very good.Then came Gears of motherfucking War and things changed.
>>739103064You would need to purchase the game yeah.https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/lost-odyssey/bzb4s8fs8t5bThe physical isnt crazy expensive, but thats multiple ez scratch DVDs your juggling too.
>>739103267lmao you just reminded me of the first time I bought this game. That fourth disc looked like a bootlet and came in a paper dvd sleeve. It made me buy the chinese version, and that shit was compatible and had english and italian dub and subtittles somehow.Microsoft is the reason the Blu Ray competitor didn't succeed.
>>739103319the HD-DVD, it even had the name perfect name. But nope, not used for Xbox GAMES.
>>739044503>Probably, the Series S was very popular.No it wasn't retard. Did it sell more than the X? Yes. But the Series consoles in general sold even worse than the XBone.
>>739101246>10.6% of PS3s That would have been a very high number if Microsoft hadn't gone full retard.
This is what I was doing instead of getting my first girlfriend.jk, I was rejected multiple times before I gave up.
>>739076291>mid 2006Xbox 360 didn't get a HDMI port until a full year later in mid-2007, nearly 2 years after it first released.
my og 360 is holding on because I literally only played Halo mp on it (still like 2000 hours, but nothing else)Im honestly more surprised my fat 20gig (replaced with 500gb hdd) backwards compatible 4 usb port PS3 still works considering I use it often for playing PS2 games
>>739100520Look how ugly themes look on blades. The glaze needs to stop, even metro is better than blades https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vChy4g3ksxc&list=PLXa2xk4UhFQgYVchoRJtvSqvK9tOT74Uy&index=11
>>739103742That's smooth.
>>739043920>>739044885Stuff like this makes me think that perhaps microsoft's utter and complete incompetence isn't really a recent phenomenon, it was just expressed a different way back then. Like yes, the 360 had a couple of games which is much more than any modern xboxes can say, but at least the modern consoles don't brick themselves more than half the time
