>Two-Handed>Smithing>Heavy ArmorBut let me guess you need more?
>>739084081>dragonborn>thane>harbinger>arch-mage>guild masterYeah, I'm that guy with a novel sized wikipedia page.
>>739084081>not going stealth archer
>>739084501I'm more of an Orc Berserker
>heavy armour sorcererHow do I make it work? Do you still need to use robes early game for their bonuses
>>739084081Yes, restoration magic and enchanting (for extra hp and two handed damage) but absolutely nothing else
>>739084081>Two-Handed>Smithing>Light ArmourBarbarian chads represent
>>739084991Enchantments,yo
>>739084081>One-Handed>Block>Heavy ArmorIt's Sk'rim time.
>Stealth>ConjurationYup, that's all I need. I'm sure the enemy is wondering where all of these atronachs are coming from.
>>739084081>two handed>smithing>heavy armor>nord>stormcloaksYeah, it's Skyriming time.
>>739084081this but an axe and shield
>>739084081>any crafting skill>thinks he's minimalisticretard
m1 m1 m1 m1 m1 m1
>>739085130i would rape that anally
>>739085972As opposed to what? Blocking at nothing or relying on zoom+slowmo with bows? m1 spam is all combat in every single fucking TES game besides the MMO and Elder Kings
>>739085248>BlockI really like shields in Skyrim.Specially that one perk that lets you do a charge.So fun.>>739084081Is there a good mod that makes the progression more like the older games or add more rpg elements?I miss not being able to be great at everything and having to make choices to achieve a certain style of play.
>>739086114The charge is kind of retarded looking in third person. The bullet time for nearly 5 seconds when blocking attacks is much cooler
>>739086185Wasn't also there a perk that let you disarm people with a bash?Shields are cool.
>>739084081>fantasy game>not speccing in magicLol. Lmao, even.Especially when discussing a game with such shit melee combat as Dkyrim.
>>739086114Lorerim tries to but the early game is boring unless you do one of the OP builds, but then it kinda defeats the whole point.
>>739086329>magicSorry, I am not trans.
This might sound weird as hell but whenever I feel like playing Skyrim two-handed, I always go third-person. I can't explain it but two handing in first-person doesn't sell the weight of the weapons to me
>>739086023Я tickle your internally
>>739086340Interesting.I don't mind a slow early game or an initial struggle.Hell, I welcome it.
>>739084991>How do I make it work?Same as any other caster: you enchant yourself cast cost -x% gear and spam.Maybe add alchemy for fortify destruction if you're felling underpowered.
>>739086460lol
>>739084501What do you mean? OP clearly posted a stealth archer.You just know that he will use the crossbow because "it's convenient" and slowly he will start to naturally develop sneak and archery skill levels like Todd intended.
>>739086371You're playing a game where you're forced to use tonal magic anon.
>>739084081I need armor made of my felled foes.
It's okay to open combat with bow sneak attacks even if that's not your character's focus. It doesn't make you a stealth archer.
>needing armor>needing to craft anythingI "need" less, actually
>>739084501>>739086518stealth archer is the best way to get immersed in the game and fully absorb the environments.
>>739086602>Stealth archery doesn't make you a stealth archer???
>>739086618Economy skills can suck my cock and balls. I'm here to fight and loot. I get why some people like Morrowind but I can't. >Don't engage with the gameplay loop you need to grind enchantment and alchemy in town for an hour firstNo.
>>739086474You'd likely enjoy Lorerim then.Gate to Sovngarde also adds a bunch of roleplaying options like expanded dialogue and a reputation system but its more vanilla+ than Lorerim so the combat and levelling isn't changed as much.
>>739086787I avoid smithing because it makes unique items like daedric artifacts feel less unique when I can shit out some legendary iron helmet with more armor and enchant it to give me anything I need
>sneak archer>not sneak daggersits even more brokenalso magic is just more fun
>alchemy>pickpocket>sneak>speech>one handedJewmaxxing.
>>739086882Then Skyrim goes and ruins that by locking quest items to level scaling so some of the best weapons in the game can get turned into useless garbage because you finished a quest too early.
>>739084991>grind enchantment to 100>make sets of cast X school for free>spam high difficulty non damage spells in a corner for infinite levels and skill points
>>739086114>picmore like zone of "never worth it to cast a spell or use a special ability because the opportunity cost doesn't outweigh just hitting the enemy with your weapon"
>Not using a high elf warrior for shits and giggles
>>739086798Can they be combined?>>739087351From my experience, while your bread and butter might be swinging your weapon, there's always moments when that kind of flexibility shines.Also, >porquenolosdos.jpeg>channel_spell.png
>>739084081Two handed is boring as shit, gotta go sword'n'board.
>>739087351Can’t speak for Skyrim but in DnD having spells is great as an unlimited ammo ranged solution, but even more than that as a non DPS problem solving tool. Speccing just a bit into magic is worth it just for the open ended utility.
>>739084081Destruction, wards, alchemy.
Thinking of doing a goblinmode playthrough in the hardest difficulty.Make as much money as humanly possible.>sneak>pickpocket>speech>the 3 crafts>probably imperialNot leveling a single combat skill.
>>739084081>Enchanting>IllusionI don't even need to "play" this game at all
>>739084991>>heavy armour sorcerer>How do I make it work?Potions give magicka regen for 300 seconds. Restoration has perks for regen too. Fortify magic skills with enchantments.Shield is amazing paired with Destruction.
>>739084081I never used smithing past my first playthrough. It was breaking my immersion being the only one with improved armor in Skyrim and made me feel like it wasn't my character that was powerful but rather my equipment.
>>739086518The (dwarven) crossbow and all relevant damage perks is completely capable of dealing damage reliably in open combat, even against elder dragons.
You can play any way you want all the enemies are still going to be mindless zombies and increasing the difficulty only makes them into sponges
>>739088273Bethesda only balances around adept
>>739084081To start with, I would prefer a good game rather than Skyrim
>>739088449Adept is balanced for casual whatever play without crafting etc. Works for any kind of character.Expert/master difficulty is where Skyrim is best.
>illusion>one-handed>sneak>light armorYup it's stabbing time
>>739088165Smithing and enchanting are too cheesy. Honestly, even looting enemies ruins the game a little bit too. It's better to be rewarded over time so you don't get burnt out and restart with a fresh character.
>>739088826
Can't decide what sort of mage I want to play as.One idea is using just staves for damage and illusion/alteration in off handother is go full necromancer with a bunch of skellys or undead
>>739084081>download mods>overhaul combat, perks and crafting>make an inventor alchemist with the intent of using potions and wacky crossbows and bolts>stick with a single kind of bow and bolt and only make health pots
>>739084501Unfathomably based.
>>739084081I have never ever used any of those skills.
>>739084501I don't understand the "everyone goes stealth archer" schtick. I went sword and board in heavy armor for the entire game and never switched off. I did add a bow at one point to snipe archers who were out of range but never not once did I sneak into battle at any point. I died sometimes, but I kept it going, kept investing in trees that gave me survivability, enchanted my shit and all of a sudden, it didn't matter how strong they were, I was gonna waltz in to a fight and kill everyone no problem.Just, like, git gud, you know?
>>739084081>nord>default body/face>my irl name>stealth>archeryep I'm thinking it's time to game! I frikkin LOVE being white!
>>739089754Necromancy, frost spells, fear, paralyze
>>739084501Stealth archer is only good at Adept and lower difficultyOn legendary it becomes useless after level 10+Dishing constant high damage is the meta on legendary, that means double Destruction is the only viable non-cheese build while also leveling up Conjuration for summons to tank for you and deal some extra damageThe alchemy + enchanting cheese can make weapon based builds viable but you're practically cheating at that point having 1k-2k weapon damage and having armour values that barely scratch you
>>739090000wasted quads on another stealth archer build
>>739090208It’s because a lot of people that played Skyrim did every major questline and there were lots of times where stealth and sniping made missions easier, more thematically engaging, or downright possible at all.
>>739084463Funny you aren't the leader of the academy in solitude
>>739091071They cut out the Bard's College questline as well as being part of the East Empire Company
>>739091169The East Empire Company quest in Windhelm is one of my favourites in the whole game.
>>739091169I bet there was even more considering all the cut holds oh and this one https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Eisa_Blackthorn her family supposedly used to be a big mercenary family having a rivalry with Maven, I sincerely wished they would release the unfinished stuff for us to play around or get moddersto Stich it together ;( in some shape or form
>>739091507There's a Bethesda dev (not sure if he's still with the company) who once posted in an official forums/Old leddit that they designed Riften to be irredeemable hence why Maven is essentially and basically always wins.
>>739084081No, I need less, unarmed bum mode is where it's at.Hand to hand and rags is all you need.
>>739084501stealth archers are for faggots.
>>739084081Missing stealth and archery there lil bro.
>>739091938You misunderstood what I mean, they were just rivaling families not taking over eachothers hold, we might have had the possibilities to influence on both little internal war, but now that you mentioned jarls I wonder how many elisif simps wouldn't do the Boetiah quest to kill her which was also removed
>>739084501Your dick is so small it's inverted.
>>739092130I hope we get proper hand to hand combat + perks/skill tree for tes6 (copes)
>>739086882unless you're using MorrowLoot, that's just as pointless because all you're doing is waiting until your level is high enough for it to start appearing in chestsit doesn't feel unique, you just think "now that I'm level 46, RNG can give me daedric stuff"it'd genuinely be more interesting and feel more earned to just level your smithing in a way that feels natural (as opposed to making 800 dwarven bows) and eventually hit the peak where you can finally craft yourself the highest quality armor possible
>>739084081Whatever floats your boat
>>739092130I never understood why they randomly just cut out hand to hand in Skyrim. I mean, it's still possible if you go Khajiit but still
>>739092576lol
>>739084501>Always starts with the mindset with squishy Breton mage>halfway of the game I realize that I'm a fucking Stealth archer out of nowherewhy
desu elisif, idgrod the younger, endarie, faralda, niranye, nirya, brelas, sapphire, vex, wylandriah, karliah, saadia, ingun black briar, eola, aranea ienith, anneke crag-jumper, adelaisa vendicci, illia, frea and serana should be marriage candidates
>>739090357>that means double Destructionhow does it scale? alchemy?
>>739092573random leveled daedric loot isn't unique or an artifactlonghammer, bloodskal blade, windshear, champion's cudgel, and the daedric artifacts
>>739086340never heard of lorerim, but I've heard a mod called wabajack does something similar? I've been wanting to play skyrim again but the idea of doing something completely different than the default game/dragonborn sounds cool>>739086114I almost always like going thief or cleric archetypes.
>>739084081In every single TES game I always play a Nord mage and only have sex with dunmer and altmer women.
>>739092975>wabajackNTA but isn't wabbajack a tool to install whole mod packs rather than a single mod?Unless there's a mod of the same name I'm not aware of.>>739092975>clericFuck yeah.
>>739092590Ordinator scales your unarmed damage to your stamina in one of the light armor perks, so if you grind stamina, you can fist fight dragons
>>739092130Why did you turn into a gator
>>739092961Unfortunately, most of Skyrim's artifacts and unique weapons are total shit. Morrowind had artifacts and named weapons that were powerful because their enchanted effects were either very strong or literally impossible to achieve through the normal enchanting system. A ton of unique weapons in Skyrim just have a mediocre enchanted effect, literally no different from normal looted enchanted gear and much, much worse than anything you could just make yourself. You pick up a cool dagger, it has a unique model and a name and then you look at the enchanted effect and it absorbs 10p of HP, the second-lowest in the loot pool for unnamed, leveled weapons.I actually like Skyrim, but you really don't get the opportunity to delve into a dungeon and find an ancient, enchanted sword of great power. You have to RP that you yourself are toiling away to improve your skills until you create the ultimate blade using metal from this dungeon, and a heart from that daedra and the soul of that big fuckin thing, etc. You can make it cool, but you have to do it yourself (like many things in Skyrim).
>>739084081Yeah.Where's my spells?I can't be a SpellSword without my spells!
>>739093532>most of Skyrim's artifacts and unique weapons are total shit.nah Dawnbreaker was cool
>>739084081Yeah, a good game attached to it without needing to rely on mods to fix it.
>>739092109Forgot to mention dagger for thrusting.Vid related.https://litter.catbox.moe/hzx2dcc5m0ipjovy.mp4
>>739094982where are her clothes? what is her backstory?
>>739084081sneak archer but mage / combat archer mage>max alteration>savos aren robes + aetherial crown>ring necklace, gloves and boots>max sneak, bow or conjured bow>alternatively daggers>if detected ebonyflesh/dragonhide>paralyze spam>3 word slow time with alteration boosts and matrix arrow spam>dual wield (1 dagger 1 sword)>giga boosted legendary weapons (no resto loop)>max resto, unlimited hp and stamina>equilibrium for unlimited magicka>all vanillaKino
>you can just backstab whatever npc you went with before the bear and have it maxed before you leave the cave so the difficulty slider becomes irrelevant
>>739097149the "difficulty" slider is just a damage taken/dealt modifier. it is always irrelevant.
>>739084081Lately I've found myself gravitating to Two-handed and Heavy Armor.I actually believe they're inferior to One-handed and Light Armor. But when you play the game so many times you don't want optimal play.
>>739084501>stealth archer BUT it's a conjuation build. Can only ever use the bound bow.Pvre kvno
>>739087903Jewishborn
>Sprinting around chopping people's heads offThat's the juice
>>739097149It just werks
>le stealth archer tho!The most boring """build""" in the game, unless you get mods to make stealth harder you just pepper the braindead ai for half a year.Truly a build for the average bethestroon
>>739093151this plus the heavy armor perk that adds your gauntlets armor value as damage to punches
>>739100141all skyrim builds are equally boring
>>739084081Is this worth playing with just morrowloot or do I need a million mods to make the game not suck
>>739084081I just play as this guy every time
>>739084501Only women and fags do this
>>739100586If you need mods to play the first time, don't bother.
>>739084081I just need illusion, restoration, and conjuration.I will set an entire dungeon against itself while the conjured and hired help clean up the dredges.
>>739101175Not the first time. I played Skyrim on release so I don’t really remember how bad the jank is. I know for sure I prefer to play without scaling and morrowloot looks good. But I wonder if the rest of the game will feel super janky.
>>739101270I don't think it's janky, there are still a lot of bugs. Unofficial patches are made by reckless homosexuals tho, so ymmv.Combat is serviceable but having some revamped perks is nice.I'd just get all the mods to ensure stability, consider unofficial patches, then play for a bit. If you don't like within a few hours, give it up. The next step is a million mods.
>>739086114Roll
>>739101503Neat I'll take it.
>Vokriinator Black>Hard pump the Alteration tree>Ocato's Recital, Vancian MagicYepIt's gaming time
>>739087552They're both modpacks, they might have a bunch of the same mods but combining both will most likely not work.>>739092975Like the other anon said Wabbajack is a modlist installer, it'll show the available modpacks and auto download (if you have nexus premium or use a script) and install them for you. It has a bunch of other lists besides Lorerim, if its been a while since you played Skyrim is a great way of getting back into it.
>>739088826>Mfw Lifts-Her-Tail is an actual real person recorded in a lost notebook written by some random architect>Mfw her parents actually named her Lifts-Her-Tail
>>739084081I like magic
>>739101773Me too. The Apocalypse mod that adds a fuckload of new spells makes magic so much fun I don't really want to bother with much else.>tfw one-shotting fags in the back with Ice Shiv (does 3x damage when enemies are facing away)>sniping dudes with Bolide (does more damage based on distance from the enemy)>use Ghostwalk to scope out a dungeon while invisible before teleporting back to the spot I cast it>swimming sanic fast with Reynos' FinsI really don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy the vanilla magic system ever again to be honest
>>739100586>>739101270Play on a difficulty on higher than normal, and install unofficial patches. There really are bugs you will want fixed.
>>739101757they have black marsh names like khgvkgcjc that no one without gills can pronounce so they give them silly and derogatory nicknames instead for convenience.
>>739084081Yeah, enchanting.
>>739086114Its OP as fuck though. All you gotta do is raise your shield and youre invincible
>>739084081For me, it's double daggers stealth to one shot everyone with backstabs and pickpocket everything and everyone, with magic to blast enemies you can't stealth kill and heal plus mind control people that get mad when you steal, and a bow for ranged kills, plus enchanting and smithing for neat armors.
>>7390840811handed Sword and Shield is better. Are you really a true nord if you arent smacking cunts with your shield?
>>739084081>heavy armorYou can get up to armor cap with light armor.
>two handed>heavy armor>dismemberment mod>bandits increased by 500%>turn them all into naked womenits time to game
>>739084081Enchanting, so my armor can turn Magic into a joke and my Weapon can constantly be on fire.
>>739103830Then again disarming bashes with weapons do more damage.. and pairs well with a ring of namira health regen class
>he's not playing as Imperial
>>739084501Truke
>spellsneakAre you even trying?
destruction magic is so fucking lame bros>get high enough to use incinerate>even worse damage per magicka spent than fireball
>>739090208it's just easier because the AI is dumb and sneak bonus damage is OP
>>739092773200 damage per hit with dualcast before alch boosts
>>739104727>Spending magicka
>>739105282yes, retard, you’re gonna be spending magicka before you max enchanting
>>739084081Literally all of my characters become 2h heavy armour.
>>739086340I fucking live for slow and dangerous early games.Thanks for the recommendation anon.
every single "build" will eventually converge into whatever armor you like the appearance of most because double enchanting and fortify smithing stacking will let you reach armor cap and make gear stronger than even daedric artifacts
>>739106012even without smithing i'm not walking around wearing some gay elf or edgelord daedra shit. make mine steel with some bearhide and put some swirly engraving on there while you're at it.
>>739106012>double enchanting and fortify smithing stackingyeah, if you're a bitchI stick to one crafting skill. Alchemy, Enchanting, or smithing. I never double up. Unfortunately, I never use Enchanting because then I have to use Conjuration and I don't like that school. from the boring repetition of using bound weapons, constantly having to csat soul trap, the ashes left behind by summons, and the daedra only ever good for getting in your way, I end up ignoring it.I do use a mod, Honed Metal, and it's pretty neat. You hire either an enchanter or blacksmith to make your gear, it costs gold and you wait a few days before you get a letter, leting you know its ready, and then you go pick it up. Can have the blacksmith temper your gear or the enchanter to recharge your weapon too
>>739084081A good video game would be a start.
>>739104727>even worse damage per magicka spent than fireballYes you trade magicka for quicker kills. It's situational, other spells never become obsolete.Max your magicka regeneration, fellow magebros.
>>739104435Knocking a weapon out of someone's hand is dishonorable shit only a Thalmor would do. Be a fucking Nord
>>739107597>Nord men
How can we fix shields?
>>739086114Nice list, wonder what I could roll.
>>739084081>kill all the dragons>grind to level 100 smithing to make that epic armor>outclassed by fucking ancient snow mong icefuck you todd.
>>739107103>Unfortunately, I never use Enchanting because then I have to use Conjurationlolwut? just buy filled petty soul gems from mages
>>739084081Is there a more boring way to play an RPG than this
>>739107849yeah, that’s a funny one, the stalhrim weapons are even better since they empower the chaos dmg enchant which you’re gonna be using anywaybasically you can get away with just taking the heavy armor branch up to ebony, and then you can craft light stalhrim armor as well
>>739084081I need less.>one heanded>succubus>no armor
I wish you could use spell triggers on arrows, similar to how you can add poisons to them. Like adding a delayed fireball or atronach summon spell onto an arrow that only fires off when it hits something
>>739084081I just love using a shield. It adds a little more depth to the combat. Two handed weapons were too slow for me.