>"actually writing is very good in this one, it has mature themes and a cast of complex characters with their own philosophies and deep motivations">check inside>"summer book for middle schoolers"-tier writing with comicbook depthEvery time, and I mean every time.When people praise games for their writing, it's always embarrassingly underwhelming.Is pic related an exception? I have yet to play it and the praises it gets are concerning.
>>739089045Genuinely got filtered.
I don't think you have the maturity to actually appreciate SpongeBob, let alone KOTOR II
>>739089045>Is pic related an exception?Nope. It's the standard Obshitian unfinished reddit writing garbage that only troons praise.
>>739089045The first one is better. It’s the classic Star Wars story and atmosphere, and not some brooding edgy shit
>>739089172>to be fair you need to have a really high IQ
where were you when you realised that you have superior intellect? for me it was when the first spongebob movie came out and my peers thought it was good
>>739089450it's a bog-standard Bioware story with a Star Wars coat of paint
>>739089450The first one is the most overrated Star Wars game of all time. It isn't near the best SW game and not near the best BioWare game either.
>>739089664it was game of the year in 1993
>>739089572>>739089664And here's the obshitian tranny defense force
>>739089737I like KOTOR, but it's a pretty by-the-numbers Bioware game.KOTOR 2 has objectively better writing, both on an character level and on a narrative level.
>>739089045Let me guess, your favorite games are Soma and Spec Ops The Line.
>>739089045Give examples of great writing or shut up
>>739089826>KOTOR 2 has objectively better writing, both on an character level and on a narrative level.NoIt's not even a finished game
>>739089045it's very well writen by star wars standards
>>739089948correct, but despite that, it still has better writing than the first game
>>739089045It's one of the top 3 best written video games of all time, so about equivalent to a mediocre genre-fiction novel. It's also the best written piece of media out of the Star Wars franchise, which again, isn't a high bar.
>>739089889A short story I wrote in highschool and showed to no one, you've never heard of it.
What games did you play that gave you this impression?
>>739089126>>739089172>>739089889>"writing" enjoyers >can't even read a full OP
>>739089450The first one is just member berries from the original trilogy sprinkled with wholesome chungus reddit tier shit like pretty much Jolee’s entire character.
>>739089948>somehow its still better than kotor 1’s writingNot making a great case for yourself…
>>739090069Not OP but pretty much every game you tranny autists claim is the best ever fits this. VTM:B, every Obshitian game, RDR2, Last of Us, etc...>>739090143>calling 1 reddit tier while defending 2LMAO
>>739089990To be fair when a game is poorly written you can at least judge the gameplay, when a book is poorly written you basically have to stop reading or commit to self torture.
>muh gray morality is le so heckin deep>also trans rights and fuck drumpf!
>>739090278nah you're def OP
I could listen to Kreia talk for hours.
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>>739090451kek
>>739090414>>739090451Why do you love sucking Baseder's dick so much?
>>739090567what the hell are you talking about
>>739090606You can't stop sucking Sawyer's dick. You literally have it in your mouth right now.
>>739090069Every modern Fallout game but New Vegas in particular (not that the others are better, it's just the one that gets praised the most for its writing), every David Cage game, every Metal Gear game (I like them but it's like anime with irl geopolitic references scattered around), every telltale game I tried, every old school point and click game ever, every modern AAA "cinematic" piece of shit I tried, literally every JRPG out there, honestly the vast majority of games that get praised for their writing in particular now that I think about it
>>739090674Sawyer wasn't even involved with KOTOR 2.
>>739089045Dude the average reading level is around 5th grade. Any kind of consensus regarding writing quality has to be a consensus of retards who are barely literate. If you want something written well you gotta look for stuff where the consensus is something along the lines of>Idk wtf was going on in this, it's so confusing and complicatedIf most reviews aren't some variation of that then it's written for middle schoolers or dumber
>>739089450Mass Effect 1 outdoes KOTOR 1 in every way
>>739090674Sawyer not only didn’t have anything to do with the game, but they actually made fun of him in KOTOR2 with the character Berun supposed to be a strawman of him.
>>739089737>>739090674Your brain is completely enslaved by culture war shit. You are an actual cuck. We are discussing the video game and all you can do is deflect to your default culture war mind state.
>>739090414Nah I'm OP and I didn't play VTM:B or Last of US. Only played the first RDR and it was enjoyable but in terms of writing it's your average GTA stuff with a different setting. Nothing to write home about
>>739090278So what games do you like? List 10.
bros expecting every video game ever to be paradise lost tier writing what a retardleave your shit takes on reddit next time
>>739090943Uh huh...Now tell me how Arcade Gannon is a well written faggot for the millionth time.
>>739090996VTMB is very well writen genre fiction where every single character is memorable and every line of dialogue is quotable (which is helped by the top-tier voice acting), RDR and Last of Us are normiecore on that people think is well writen because it's on par with netflix slop
>>739089045>anti-kotor 2 shill campaignOh look, enmbracer hired the same indians that bethesda did. They didn’t do a very good job though, as they seem to be operating on FNV anti-shill talking points
>>739089045I'm glad I'm not retarded like you, fecaloid.
>>739090826Not true with video games because you could be accidentally creating chaos in the story purely by accident or because the player agency took over or because side quests made the game more fragmented.Writing even a basic story within a video game is a lot harder because you can accidentally create confusion basically all the time through innocuous things or from any number of things anybody else on the dev team could do with the game that doesn't involve you, wrong music queues, wrong camera placement, wrong voice direction, wrong scene direction, player failure because the mechanic was too hard, player success because the planned failure was actually too easy, reward systems interrupting narrative flow, players being adhd/retarded and interrupting the pacing you thought would flow a lot better, entire storylines being cut because 'it's not in the budget' or someone didn't want to go through the trouble of fixing the extra hassle it was causing, or everything changed and we need to redo the story because now the game has to be much smaller in scope.For most devs it's a huge relief that they can actually get any story to work at all and why some devs just don't bother with it in general.
>>739091642>>739091647>if you don't like my pozzed troon slop you're brownWeak bait, xisters
>>739091852Agreed, bookfags seem to ignore how hard is to implement story in a videogame, with how many people are involved
>>739091319you can probably count the number of /v/ posters who have read Paradise Lost on one hand
>>739089045Writing so good they didn't even finish it
>>739089948not him but it took me multiple playthroughs back on xbox to find out there were truly inaccessible areasthe ending's still fucky but if I'd only ever done one playthrough the thought never would have occurred to me that it was unfinishedthe restoration patch is lame cutting room floor shit outside Da Champ btw
>>739089045By video game standards yes it's good
>>739089045Why do people confuse disliking a story or characters with bad writing? OP can you explain in what ways the writing is bad? Again, we're not talking about character motivations or personality you don't agree with, I'm talking about actual writing mistakes. Whether it's plot holes, character motivations that don't make sense for the character, bad dialog etc. Please provide examples.
>>739091642>His games continue to make people seethe decades after their releaseAvellone I kneel
Why'd they give her all of that?
>>739089045>dont be evil>dont be good>be middle and do evilgreat Starwars.. bro..
>>739097943the game is pretty explicit that being a fencesitting faglord is in fact the worst possible option
>>739089562I watched the live action doom movie in theaters with a large group of friends and did not get kicked out of the theater for sneaking in while most of them did, and I liked the film and also spent the rest of the night at the cyber Cafe eating fresh pizza and drinking monster. we played LAN halo 2 big team battles
>>739089045It's nietzchean morality shoehorned into a star wars context. People oversell it a bit but a lot of people did find the way they mixed it in fun in a meta way
>>739090674why are you such a pathetic schizo?
>>739089045>"summer book for middle schoolers"-tier writing with comicbook depthPeople who say this NEVER provide an example of what they think is actually good writing. Never.
>>739098954Well yeah they are obviously baiting.
>>739090393>Trannies and Trump out of nowhereI think you have an issue.
>>739089045KOTOR2 was pretentious as fuck
i play KOTOR 2 to rage bait kreia, to anger kreia, and disagree with kreia. if kreia hates what I do I made the correct choice, simple as. everything she says and does is corruption, manipulation, poopoo peepee barf that a dog ate then regurgitated
>>739089045KOTOR2 was based as fuck
>>739089826having better writing than KOTOR 1 is very low bar to clear
Is there any reason not to play KOTOR1 as full STR ungabunga build + persuasion?
>>739102104You'd be a glass cannon without an attribute to rely on for defense. wisdom for more force points and saving throw, constitution for health points and saving throws, or dexterity for saving throws and the same benefits strength would give you if you used finesse feats or blasters. strength and charisma is two sides of the same coin, but charisma is better.
