>>739090349
If it's singleplayer and on GOG I get it there. If it's multiplayer or not on GOG I get it on Steam. No I don't use galaxy. Galaxy is worse then just using the website.

>>739090475
/thread

yes. I don’t have a steam account. i purchased my copy of silent hill 4 on gog

>>739090475
thread can end here

>>739090349
Galaxy launcher? Don't think so

>>739090475
This is my opinion as well.

>>739090349
It's not even close to Steam's level.

You don't get any Steam points when you buy on GOG

>have a fraction of Steam's selection
>updates often lag behind
>bunch of broken achievements
>100 MB cloud save limit per game
>no Linux support unless the dev offers a native version
Only benefits over Steam are a very generous refund policy and DRM-free, but most Steam games can be cracked very easily.

>>739090349
It's extraordinary in the fact that it lets you download DRM-free offline installers. In every other way it's worse than Steam, but its single advantage is absolutely major.

Imagine paying for unprotected exes, lmao

>>739090926
>>bunch of broken achievements
I feel like having achievements and specifically getting a little "DING" when you do it is a huge part of what keeps a "gamer" around these days so I don't think you're wrong.

>>739091102
you're essentially paying for convenience since a lot of updates aren't uploaded anywhere in a timely manner.

You get treated like second class citizen with games behind on updates or missing DLC. If I wanted DRM free games I'd just pirate them.

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I regret buying these all on steam. From what I hear the GoG versions are much better.

>>739091102
As opposed to what, paying for exes which are actively hostile to my interests?

>>739090349
It's different.

You buy GOG if you want to have offline installers on your PC. That's the main benefit. You can keep and play your games, how you want, on GOG. The only real competition there is itch and that one has terrible UI and unmoderated content.

You use Steam if you don't care about any of that, or just want games not available on GOG. Steam also has better multiplayer support (given that it runs thru Steam's servers) but there are only a handful of games that applies for my interest.

>>739091309

As opposed to all the features from Steam, ie. input mapping, workshop, automatic updates, cloud, video recording, family sharing, streaming, etc

With GoG you get what, the equivalent of a pirate version? Why the fuck would I pay for that?

>>739090349
Modern games on Steam, classic games on GOG.

I use GOG for its intended purpose: playing old games that have been updated to work on modern systems.
Otherwise I buy on steam.

>>739091373
NTA but hey it's cool. You like the sparkly sparkles of Steams facebook features. There's nothing wrong with enjoying that. Just GOG is the better choice if not having to tell your "friends" about the latest game you beat is important to you. Again Steam is the bees knees if you like facebook functionality in your video game storefront. If "it's not beating the game that's important, it's showing everyone I did" is what matters to you. Which it does. Which is fine.

>>739090926
>no Linux support unless the dev offers a native version
Yeah? Is that not how it's supposed to be? Wouldn't GOG imposing standards half-assedly as they clearly give no shits about Linux worse?

>>739091527
None of the bevy of features that anon listed are social in nature.

>>739091373
>Why the fuck would I pay for that?
That's what decent people who aren't worthless rats do. I can actually understand pirating if you cannot afford a game no matter what, even if there's no decent service selling it where you live or whatever the fuck, there is no harm done by playing it for free, but if your attitude is that you'll only pay for something if you're forced to do so by invasive DRM then you're gutter trash and the very reason DRM is so cancerous.

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>>739090349
Yes.
>has LoveR Kiss
>has Tokyo Clanpool
>has uncensored H-games
>all packaged in a two-click that works with no internet .exe like it was supposed to be

Aren't a lot of games on GOG also DRM-free on their Steam versions? Like Cyberpunk, BG3, etc, you can just launch from their executable without signing in.

>>739091891
>invasive
Steam's DRM is the least possible invasive DRM you can have and still call it DRM.
>H-hey Anon, c-could you maybe check in every couple weeks so I can verify your license? You know...if y-y-you want to...

>>739091839
One of them could be considered social.

>>739092060
I'd argue it's "some" not "a lot". Mostly older games in my own personal experience. But I couldn't say for sure, perhaps someone needs ot make a list of games you can launch without touching steam after you download/install them.

>>739091891
His point is about buying on steam because they offer more features than piracy while gog is on par with piracy

>>739092208
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam

>>739090349
Not even remotely, it has zero features
The only positive that gog has is it provides easy clean DRM free installs for the pirate scene

>>739092301
>buying a game off gog is the same as piracy
lol
lmao
did I enter retard street whats going on here?
don't answer that it's a rhetorical question

>>739090349
For older games and abandonware, it's a good place. They often do most of the headaching compatibility shit, and it works okay.

>>739092395
Are you intentional misunderstanding his post or...?

>>739090883
Whats is the point of them? Burying smiles and backgrounds?

>>739092436
Are you intentionally misunderstanding my post or...?

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>>739092516

>>739092436
Nowadays for half the posters on this site, that's all they do.

>>739092481
That shit's important nowadays. Don't underestimate it.

>>739091527
I can smell the seethe behind this post. You're attributing things to that guy that he didn't even say. The only people ever crying about Steam are the ones that don't use it. And you don't even have to. Rent free in your head.

I love GoG, it's like professional piracy. So if there's some older game not available on Steam - or not updated/fixed in a way that the GoG version is, I'll pirate the GoG version.

Keep seething, crybaby.

>>739092715
I'm so mad you got me. Hang on while I shove a tv remote up my asshole.

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>>739092481
>he doesn't have a shit log background
ngmi

>>739090349
Yes. I'm willing to purchase games from GOG, but not Steam. A storefront requiring its own launcher isn't acceptable to me.

>>739091527
Anti-steam drones are pathetic. You plug fingers in your ears and continue to ask the same question as to why people use Steam. You know why, you just don't like the answer. It's not one you can attack directly so you invent ones to attack. Understandable, as there is no argument that can win against convenience and good customer service, let alone all the other reasons we use it.

You'll reply with some "you don't own the game" argument for the fiftieth time, to which I reply the same way I always do: I have pirated backups of all my games. I supported the developer and have access to convenience that steam provides. The day I get stabbed in the back by Valve I'll be prepared and handle things then. But I will always have my games.

>>739093025
It's a big remote hang on I gotta focus here

>>739093094
No prob bro, take your time.

>>739092396
I dislike that GOG calls what they do preservation. When they update a game to work on modern systems, they usually break compatibility with the original systems it was designed to run on. Which would be fine, if they gave you access to the unmodified exes, but they don't.

>>739093279
Me too. It ain't preservation. It's fucking RAPE.

>>739090349
Why does itch io not get the same love gog does?

>>739093517
Anything decent that comes out of itch ends up on Steam.

>>739093517
I like itch, but even ignoring that people can just upload spyware for you to download, most of the games that anybody knows are on GOG. itch is mostly useful for tiny, indie games that you probably would never know about if you hadn't heard about them and found a link. itch also has some other problems, such as the search feature being particularly garbage, so it's not really going to beat GOG at any point.

I see itch mentioned alongside GOG when people talk about having game executables stored on a harddrive, but really, most people are looking for Final Fantasy or XCom over Furry Wildlife Hentai Simulator, and the first two are on GOG not itch.

>>739091226
achievements won't decide if I play a game or not but it might decide how much more of a game I want to play past the credits. Good achievements give me a challenge and make me play in ways I wouldn't do so before.

>>739090926
Half your 'facts' are wrong anon

>>739090349
Great service, easily the best storefront. The only one with the balls to go DRM free. I play only games that are from GOG. Never spent a dime there.

>>739090349
i wish they had every game steam does i would have boughted on gog if it were the case

i looooooove owning my games!

Yeah it's the smarter service overall compared to Steam.

>>739090349
no but the games are free

>>739095283
>gog-games
I looooooove owning your games too!

>>739091619
This only makes sense if you consider software to be running natively on windows, which hasn't REALLY been true since like, windows 7 and is especially not true of windows 10 and 11.
Most stuff runs through some kind translation layer.
Yes, it would in theory, be good if there were linux native versions of software, but by most practical means it doesn't matter unless the software relies on really esoteric windows features or designed to intentionally shit itself if it's running on linux which is now a "feature" in modern "anticheat" software.

gog didn't discontinue support for my OS, removing access to my games, so that's a big point in their favor

>>739095509
I mean strictly speaking GOG never "supported your OS" in the first place.
Even if we're talking about their installers being 32bit that's just them being lazy not a conscious decision they're making for compatibility purposes.

>>739090349
it offers something Steam largely does not, so it is worthwhile in its own way even if the store and launcher app are not necessarily "better"

>>739096526
I think that >>739095509 Anon is referring to Steam, which dropped support for Windows 7 and currently won't even allow you to install games onto the Steam client. Not that it prevents installing of newer games, it just won't allow you to install anything in its current version.

Sure, I get it. Win7 is wildly out of date. But if I'm buying an old game that's Win7 compatible then I should be able to play it. I shouldn't be blocked by a mandatory client window that refuses to download the game I've already purchased and want to install. At least with GOG, I can still download and play games on my system, and if I spend money on a Win10+ game that doesn't work, that's just my stupid fault.

It's DRM-free. If you find it on GOG, buy it there.

>>739096705
I mean on a strictly semantic level I do agree that a windows 7 game should run on a windows 7 machine.
I'd also say the Steam Client's reliance on chrome is pretty stupid, and Valve probably should have realized this is an issue given their history as a company and the fact that middleware used for their most famous engine was purchased by hostile "competitors" has created a lot of fucking issues with supporting it over the years.
But at this point I have very little sympathy or understanding for you that you are not running linux these days which would entirely eliminate this as a problem, and I'm pretty sure you can still use SteamCMD to install and launch games without the client.

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>>739090349
Their selection is so weird. But occasionally there's some really cool stuff like Homeworld Cataclysm

>>739090349
>no drm
>censorship free
Yes, several times better than steam

>>739090349
>no games
>slower downloads
>sometimes shit doesn't even get updates on GOG
>features ripped out
>may shut down in the near future
But hey, at least you own your turd. I'm just renting my good experience. :(

>>739097776
>>may shut down in the near future
irrelevant since there is no shutdown scenario where you lose your games outside of being too retarded to download the offline installers

>>739097842
>get cloud storage
>back up locally because the cloud storage is likely to shut down
>???
>profit!
I don't want to hoard a 250GB game I might not be playing right now when I can just redownload it in a few minutes.

it is if you like to pretend you are actually owning your games instead of buying a license

>>739090349
Yes a lot of times they work on the games so that they can function on modern hardware steam doesnt really do shit

>>739090475
What is wrong with multiplayer on GOG

>>739090475
fpbp I use both but prioritizes GOG for single player games. I just prefer offline installers.

>Is it truly better than Skyrim?
maybe

>>739101473
Steam has a dedicated online service (Steamworks) so all online multiplayer with Steam games runs thru that. It means that you can generally find a multiplayer game on Steam as long as other people are playing.

GOG doesn't have a similar service. There is no "GOGworks" and any multiplayer service need to go thru separate servers. Sometimes this means that online multiplayer simply doesn't work with GOG games. Sometimes it means that GOG games connect thru the publisher's own servers, allowing it to go multiplat. And sometimes the GOG game just has its own private servers, meaning that you'll only ever find anyone online with a GOG game if someone else happens to be trying to connect with online multiplayer on the GOG version.

Given how much easier Steamworks is, it's just a lot more common for developers to just use that for multiplayer unless there is some reason to do otherwise, such as multiplat. It's not that you CAN'T have good multiplayer with the GOG version, just that it's basically guaranteed with the Steam version and it's a frequent gamble with the game on GOG. Not a problem if you're playing single-player games, but a big concern if you want to play a lot of multiplayer games online.

>>739091839
>workshop
>family sharing
>streaming
>not social

>>739093025
>pretends to care about supporting developer while brags about pirating GOG games because it doesn't offer him facebook features he claims doesn't care about
Buying games from GOG is about opposing DRM in the first place, enjoy your offline denuvo backup dishonest nigger.

It is, yes.

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>>739090349
Not really. But it's cool that exists.

>>739090475
this, but I make exceptions for Linux games, which are usually better supported on Steam.

It’s better because it makes it easier to pirate games.

>>739090349
It sometimes has older versions than Steam and sometimes functionality is broken if the dev is retarded
>>739090926
>>739104590
>no Linux support unless the dev offers a native version
I wouldn't know, I just add under Lutris or Steam and it just werks. The client runs like liquid ass though.
>>739091373
>Input mapping
Just add as a non-Steam game
>Workshop
Only an issue if the mods aren't hosted anywhere else
>Automatic updates
Not always desired
>Cloud
Someone else's computer. Galaxy technically has cloudshit, but I don't care.
>Video recording
Just record video with something else
>Family sharing
Just give someone the installer
>Streaming
Stream with something else

Why the fuck would I ever buy from GOG when pirates get the same experience for free?
If I'm spending money, I'm going to buy on the best platform (Steam). If I don't care about platform features, then piracy is the only other option.

>>739105442
>I wouldn't know, I just add under Lutris or Steam and it just werks. The client runs like liquid ass though.
I use Heroic, works great.

>>739101743
>>739090475
developers tend to give GOG versions the shaft for patches and support also. And steam workshop mods are a closed garden.

>>739090349
No just vastly easier to pirate from: http://gog-games.to

Hence why they're eternally on the verge of bankruptcy and companies only put their games on there once they've fully saturated sales on every other storefront and platform.

>>739090349
No, their entire premise is based on a lie, you don't own your games and never will, you also never really owned a game, ever, not even in the Atari days, it was always license shit.
People who are buying into that narrative are in for a rude awakening when GoG goes bankrupt and all their installers do nothing because their licenses were revoked
Valve doesnt let you own the games you buy as well, but at the very least they're honest about it and don't try to bullshit you with false narratives

>>739105482
You are not most people, who will simply impulse purchase if something is convenient, cheap and perceived to be good enough.
DRM on Steam is also only optional or can be circumvented really easily, and any stronger DRM is only used by bad games, so pirates also get the same experience there.
You would never have bought, so you are just free marketing, piracy is good actually.

>>739092481
For giving fags with retarded opinions the jester award

>>739106023
>so pirates also get the same experience there
Piracy will never ever offer the same level of service as buying on a platform like Steam. Piracy is objectively a worse user experience.
>piracy is good actually.
Piracy is only good if you don't care about platform features.

I'm not seeing any GOG controller or GOG machine

>>739106023
>piracy is good actually.
Piracy is only good or justifiable when the company deserves it, Nintendo and Sony come to mind, people have a moral duty to pirate their games

>>739105886
How are they going to invalidate offline installers? Retards like you are in for a rude awakening when Valve implements always online DRM because you bootlicker cucks put way too much money into steam to oppose any enshittification.

>>739106753
>when Valve implements always online DRM
Two more weeks? If anything Valve has only become more consumer friendly over the years.

>>739106753
>How are they going to invalidate offline installers?
offline installers are still bound to licenses, if the license is revoked, then your installers becomes useless

>>739107402
Are you fucking retarded, honest question. You OWN the installer (and the packed game content) you can install and uninstall as many times as you want.
What are they going to do if "the license is revoked", send a SWAT team to retrieve the installer from your computer?

>>739106952
Newell dies in 15 years and Valve will probably be sold since his children don't seem to be interested in videogame development and shared inheritance usually ends in liquidification of assets. No need to shear the cattle right now, but the new owner surely will to get his investment back.
>>739107402
Offline installers won't be able to install these games anymore? How will they revoke the license remotely without internet access? Explain this process technically steamtard.

>>739107585
>>739107598
>What are they going to do if "the license is revoked", send a SWAT team to retrieve the installer from your computer?
They're gonna do nothing and so are you with a installer that won't progress through installation because the license is not there

>>739107694
Are you okay, retard?

>>739106495
I do not care about platform features and any platform features that I do miss out on due to piracy would be identical on GOG and Steam.
>>739106746
Piracy does not need to be justifiable, it is the baseline state of being. Like any electronic attention whore, someone putting information out into the wild must justify me paying them money for it or must otherwise rely on my good will.
Piracy converts people who would have never interacted with the game into a userbase willing to talk about the game and potentially willing to purchase more content from the publisher if the price is right.
Piracy is only bad if
>The product sucks
>Legitimate purchase is less convenient or lower quality than piracy
>The product is overvalued
>Fraudulent copyright infringement preempts legitimate purchases
>Quality of the creator does not remain consistent
>There is no avenue to give the creator what you think is a decent amount of money in exchange for a product, like a sequel on discount
Piracy is essentially a free sample
>But free samples have to be small and limited
Free samples of material goods are limited by production costs that do not exist for digital media.
>>739107598
>Get his investment back
As soon as the problems that Valve solved become unsolved, it becomes open season for digital storefronts again.

Only poor people use gog lmao

>>739107883
valve shill AI needs more training, please understand

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Pirate from GOG.
Buy from Steam.
Simple as.

I think it's much worse than Steam, but ever since I switched over to Linux I'm more inclined to use it than before, because Heroic Launcher is not that bad and in most cases I can live with not getting game updates as fast as Steam.
GoG Galaxy was total dogshit and using GoG without Galaxy was also miserable.

>>739090475
>Use GoG Galaxy to play
>Try to buy game because neat deal
>Galaxy redirects you to site to confirm payment
>Payment can't be confirmed
>Close Galaxy
>Use browser
>Pick the same game/deal and try the same payment method
>Payment completed
This happened like several times and I feel it's Galaxy's fault so I'm going to agree with you

>>739090349
Steam
>buy game
>press install
>click play
>play game

Epic
>buy game
>press install
>click play
>play game

GoG
>buy game
>press install
>click play
>play game

>>739107950
>I do not care about platform features
Good, the pirate the game.
>and any platform features that I do miss out on due to piracy would be identical on GOG and Steam.
Objectively wrong.

>>739109956
Is your argument that these platforms have feature parity? You seriously aren't that retarded are you?

>>739110026
Do you use the features the other platforms use? For just playing games all platforms are the same.

If you want to use a feature that one platform has which another doesn't then use that one.

>>739110113
All of them have automatic updates and cloud saves. Everything else is either reddit-tier social slop or something that can be done with independent software anyway.

>>739110113
NTA but I won't use Epic because, among other reasons, I refuse to support third-party exclusivity.

>>739110113
>Do you use the features the other platforms use?
If I'm going to spend money on a game, I'm going to spend it on the best platform (Steam)
>For just playing games all platforms are the same.
If you don't care about a platforms features, then you might as well pirate.
>>739110234
>Everything else is either reddit-tier social slop
No it isn't, but keep antishilling like the good seething little chink you are.

>>739110234
Show me the automatic updating and cloud saving for Pragmata on Epic and GOG.

>>739090349
Big league

>>739110234
>Cloud saves
>GoG
I dunno about that one chief, GoG was telling me they were deleting my cloud saves for a long time if I didn't delete them myself. Kept emailing me about that constantly, I ended up deleting them myself to stop the email spam.

>>739110393
I think they cut it down to something pathetically small because it was eating into the $83 yearly profit.

>>739110265
>can't list any essential feature and proceeds to call names
Concession accepted.
>>739110273
>brags about exclusivity
Aren't you faggots supposed to be against it? Or it doesn't count when it's your favorite platform?

>>739090349
yes
>but multiplayer games
all riddled with cheaters not worth your time

>>739110473
Valve / Steam offer:
>Steam workshop
>In home streaming
>Auto game updates
>Web streaming to phone
>Community Profiles
>Best review system
>Curators
>Holiday sales events
>Community profiles
>Group chat
>Voice chat
>Steam overlay
>Big picture mode
>Best controller support
>Best game library tools
>Play specific game versions
>Remote play together
>Best friends list
>Achievements
>Franchise pages
>Screenshots and cloud storage
>Cloud saves
>Mobile app
>Mobile chat app
>Livestreaming
>Streaming features
>Community guides
>Community forums
>Steam marketplace
>News hub
>Store discovery
>Music player
>Steam OS
>Steam Deck
>Family game sharing
>Open about game metrics
>Steam inventory
>CD key generation support
>SteamVR
>Proton
>Gamescope
>Steam Datagram Relay
>AMD driver improvements
>Gift cards
>Wallet
>Linux Support
>Non-steam game / pirated game support

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>>739110473
>>739110508
fuckin owned

>>739091373
>automatic updates
never in the history of the world did forced auto update improve anything at all

>>739110473
Stores buying up exclusives to ruin everything = bad.
Companies realizing nobody wants to use other stores and cutting costs by publishing on the one store that matters = good.

>>739110582
>forced
Steam lets devs host previous versions. If you want to access old versions ask the dev. Not a Steam issue.

>>739110508
>>739110527
>just posts a list from ChatGPT, most of if being reddit-tier social slop I was talking about, then samefags
you already lost the argument, go home son

>>739090475
This but with Switch 2 / Steam combo. I'm on Linux and Windows so GOG isn't a smooth transition

>>739110639
>most of if being reddit-tier social slop
Go through point by point explaining how its reddit-tier social slop.
You won't
You can't
You lost.
I accept your concession.

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>>739110639
>most
COPE LEVELS ARE OFF THE CHARTS

>>739110662
You might as well complete your transition if you use lincucks.

>>739110639
>deflection
>ad hominem
Nice try, but you lost by the merits of your argument (or rather the lack there of).

>>739110716
>claims someone is shilling grits
You GOGlems will try anything.

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>>739110639 >can't list any essential feature and proceeds to call names
>>739110639 >noooo stop giving a list of essential features on steam nooooo

>>739110854
What games does he play on his Deck whilst sitting on the decks of his many yachts?

I do not care for Galaxy, I wish it could download the installers for you more easily instead of just being a superfluous launcher

>>739090349
yes.

>>739110932
Final Fantasy 8 and Mass Effect 2, the best games ever created.

>>739110692
Your copypaste list was already rippen apart, try to come with something new and stop famefagging.
>>660709461

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>>739110996
>famefagging

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>>739090349
I have a deck and only used it to buy lover kiss. Tokyo clanpool I just pirated and everything else I could find on steam or don't care about.

>>739110996
That reply doesn't say what is "reddit-tier" social slop does it?
You lost the argument lmao. I accept your concession.

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>>739110996
>lmao
>lol
>nobody uses that
>what the fuck

>ripped apart
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

The best thing about GOG is how they package their installers for free distribution.

>>739111035
Samesagging?

>antishill bullied out of the thread
every
single
time

>>739111440
He's probably working on another thread. He's been doing this for nearly 3 years now.

>>739090475
Galaxy is good for keeping games up to date. It's not DRM like Steam.

>>739105442
>I just add under Lutris
Lutris is, and has always been, complete putrid ass, and whenever I see people recommending it, it drives me into a murderous rage.

>>739111506
>It's not DRM like Steam.
Its literally no different to Steam you dumbfuck.

>>739090349
For me? Yes.

>>739090349
Yes.

>>739090349
I use it, but honestly Steam App mog Galaxy so much it's not even funny.

>>739112050
You could try Heroic Games launcher, I think it's way better than GoG Galaxy and I think it is even usable on Windows. Not better than Steam, but it is less intrusive.

>>739112110
I've used Heroic Launcher on Linux, but trying it on Windows never crossed my mind.

>>739112110
>*p*n s**rc*
No thanks.

>>739090475
I'll also add Workshop support and patches as a reason to pick Steam over GOG. Some games don't receive frequent patches compared to their Steam releases.

>>739090349
For old games? 100%
Lots of old games on steam don't even work out of the box well without community fixes (like Trackmania or Max Payne1)

>>739109991
The only platform features I care about can be obtained by adding the game as a non-Steam game.

>>739090349
It's not gabe's subscription model where steam can terminate your account whenever it wants ( with no refunds) so yes, it' obviously better.

I stopped using GOG when they were forced to admit they rent licenses. I own my games on Steam.

>>739112527
>Good, the pirate the game.
What about this do you not understand?