Can someone explain why ascending to heaven through peace is BAD and WRONG?
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>>739093135absolute power corrupts absolutely
>>739093135>I'm reaching godhood in an ethical manner bro just ignore the mountain of corpses in my wake
>>739093269But why does "godhood" NEED to be acquired only after mass murder? I'm not trying to sound combative. This kind of shit comes up in my Chinese cultivation webnovels and I'm a stupid fuck who clearly doesn't "get it".
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>>739093135It’s less that it is wrong and more that if you can’t handle it you will be erased from existence. Like you will be looking at the very essence of all things and if your brain is even slightly unprepared for what you may or may not see you will just be gone. The wheel turns, you know this, it is a familiar idea. But if you look at it from another angle you can no longer see it turn. What if when you look at it there is no wheel at all? What if you see something entirely alien, or simply see nothing. Or what if you see yourself? These are the things you must be able to handle even if you cannot anticipate what you will find. And how do you do this? By gaining experience? By gaining knowledge of life and death, joy and sorrow, pain and pleasure. But to do that you must travel, you must learn not simply through study but through experience. And you will not know if you can achieve that while not spilling blood, whether it is yours or others.
>>739093331>This kind of shit comes up in my Chinese cultivation webnovelsBecause the chinese are savages.Are you really asking why stories in general always make the path to power be violence? Or am I missing some specific connection you're griping about?
>>739093331Killing is badong.
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>>739093135Because i said so
>>739094849I will think upon this.I do understand the concept of viewing the "Wheel" from another perspective. Again, I cannot activate the appropriate neurons to correlate this with violence. I understand violence from a self-defense perspective.
>>739093331>Chinese cultivation webnovelsThis has an easier explanation imo. Think how religions were originally an explanation of the world. "I see thunder -> there's a god of thunder". Greek Mythology isn't supposed to be moral either. Sometimes it's a reflection of the world. It's necessary to project from what you know since the beyond is unknown.In that sense, the world is trash and full of nepotism, hence, someone might imagine that the afterlife is full of nepotism and stuff. In JTTW there's cabbages that send you to heaven wtf is this shit. You ascend by stealing a cabbage? That's the plot of this?That's when kekdism appeared. They said you didn't have to steal cabbage but instead look at their schizophrenic Sutras and that's when you ascend.
>>739093135>>739093331Read The Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune
>>739093331You only get xp by killing
>>739093135>he think he can reach heaven by just being morally goodlol>>739093331>chinks>godhoodlmao
>>739093135It's egocentrism versus allocentrism. If your actions are focused on preserving the freedoms and safeties of others, your perspective is of your actions being just a cog in the wheel of a greater machine which includes all. If you are locked on embodying peace at all cost, you paradoxically prevent yourself from acting against others that would disturb that peace.Why do people end up becoming peaceful when they are capable of violence? They do it because they believe that peace will grant them more benefits than violence, or conversely, they will avoid the consequences of violence. But if worldly logic suggests that there is no negative rammifications for them to commit violence, then they have no reason not to be violent.To ascend to heaven is to be one whose actions shape the world, and the people in it. A world that does not favour those who embody goodly values like peace and community, and a world that does not punish those who kill and embody negative values is a world without god. It is the duty of those in heaven to enact the judgement that others cannot. They cannot be bound by the same ethics that mortals are, because their responsibility is beyond mortals.
>>739098632This makes the most sense then. It's hard to reconcile a violent reality with our current world. How far we are removed from the Wild West.
>>739093135They don't get it, but neither do you.>>739093221false pretense; assumption based on fabricated scarcity imposed>>739094849there is not a single requirement for me to have to do anything to have anything, this is a grift of the substrate as much as what controls it to be so
>>739098632>But if worldly logic suggests that there is no negative rammifications for them to commit violence, then they have no reason not to be violentThere's also no real reason to be violent, though.
>>739093331Might makes right. Violence was and always will be the supreme authority. That is the primordial truth.
>>739102268Not true: People who cannot be swayed by logic, diplomacy, ethics, etc. will sometimes only listen to violence.
>>739096748>In that sense, the world is trash and full of nepotism, hence, someone might imagine that the afterlife is full of nepotism and stuffThat wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. This world is governed by nepotism and blood rituals why would the next one be any different? Unless there is something waiting on the other side so you are stuck hedging bets across the board in an attempt to not get fucked over when you pop up again for round 2.
>>739095146Surely one can attain godhood via striving for a gnodab world
