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is she dead or alive? I'm getting too old for Nomura's wild ride
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>>739093748
Alive and Cloud is the guy who went out of Plato's cave
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>>739093748
last round
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she is dead, cloud is schizomaxing untill his mindbreak in part 3
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>>739093748
She's both, dead in the world everyone else perceives but alive in a world only Cloud can perceive where he saved her but both worlds are mangled together due to the reunion
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>>739093748
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>>739093748
She is very obviously dead. I am going to extend the benefit of the doubt and instead of assuming you are too retarded to pick up on the very obvious scenes that show she is clearly dead and the Aerithhhhhh we are seeing is not there that you are instead farming for (you)s for some reason. But who knows, maybe really are one of the retards who missed the camera cuts where it showed scenes from the other party members perspective and Aerithhhhhh was clearly not there and so are somehow confused by the clumsy, inept attempt to extend Cloud's denial when it would actually be more tragic for him to not be in denial and instead think he has broken Sephiroth's control in his grief and not realize he is still dancing on strings like a puppet.
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>>739093748
Nomura is so greedy he needs to milk aerith's fate for part3 too
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>>739093748
Alive 100% if you follow the story. It's really obvious
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>>739093801
>tifags think cloud is just hallucinating all this
kek imagine being this retarded and in denial because aerith will live
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>>739094120
see
>>739094218
now kiss
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>>739093748
We'll get this in part 3 again
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>>739094465
God I hate Remake Cloud's face. He peaked in the ps3 tech demo.
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>>739094151
>another episode of blame nomura
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>>739093748
If she's dead after all that teasing it will be the biggest troll move in history by a videogame company, in a bad way.
I would never trust them again .
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>>739093748
Probably both with the timeline shenanigans
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>>739093748
I took it as Cloud is experiencing two different realities at the same time. The game wants you to think he's gone crazy but in part 3 the timelines will converge and Aerith will Return revealing that Cloud wasn't crazy he was just seeing a version of her that was in a different reality.
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>>739093748
I think she's dead at the end of Rebirth and the sleeping Aerith will be the one we save.
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>>739094761
Sephiroth has control ver what reality he wants to be canon, once he deaded the world with Aerith will crumble and she'll be gone forever
Until Advent Children Remake
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>>739093748
She died in one timeline, Cloud blocked the sword in the other. He's interacting with both timelines at the same time, that's why his friends think he's gone crazy.
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>>739094584
SE would lose all goodwill of it's jp fanbase. I imagine with going back to switch that's the last thing they want
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>>739094495
His face looks good, it's just more HD.
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>>739094584
If they we don't get an Aerith ending I'll wonder what possessed them to tease her faith for 3 games instead of just making an actual remake.
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>>739094964
not a fan desu
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>>739094761
Sephiroth is obsessed with cloud joining him and defying destiny together. He will use Aerith's life to bargain and try to coerce cloud to his side.
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>>739094956
What does
>You have to make Cloud better
Mean?
Only thing that comes to mind is helping mako poisoned Cloud after northern crater.
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>>739093748
If Aerith was really dead, how would Cloud take the news?
Would they just show another breakdown?
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>>739095174
Toofpick changes everything
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>>739095375
Tifa will help him remember in the lifestream segment and then he'll remember laying her to rest in the lake
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>>739095375
I like the detail that the flashes of him speaking is from OG.
I have an idea that Part 3 will have an “accept the truth” moment and that’s when we see him putting her body to rest in the water.
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>>739095405
it's subtle but the face width and hair are the biggest differences
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>>739095486
Yeah like this guy said. >>739095461
I do think she’ll be playable in some format tho.
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>>739095505
Seems same to me. Just different lighting.
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>>739095375
Definitely would be used to break him or motivate him to save the sleeping Aerith or join the world were Aerith is alive.
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>>739095375
Full mental breakdown, it will motivate him to seek other timeline.
We will go through the rift in the sky to save her.
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>>739095375
Just the thought of her possibly dying had him crying rivers. Sephiroth will trick him to think Aerith really died and he'll have a breakdown.
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>>739093748
She's alive. They already gave it away by promising Aerith and Tifa will have the same screentime. Second half of part 3 will be very Aerith focused.
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What does the Lifestream even do?
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>>739095748
dilly dally shilly shally. she wasnt alive in advent children either faggot but she was still constantly in the movie
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>>739095375
He will have comforting sex from Priscilla
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>>739094570
it clearly worked tho. FF7 fags recycle same topics constantly like autism patients
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>>739095814
Her screentime in Advent Children was like 5 minutes max. They specifically didn't want to show too much of her. This is the opposite situation.
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What's the point of the story? What are the writers even trying to convey? It all kinda feels like nothing more than a mystery box to string along for monetary gain at this point.
Is this the LOST of /v/idya?
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>>739093748
>The world will be saved, but will you?
Come on now. The objective of changing fate is to save her.
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>>739093748
Nigger Noruma didn't even realize he was working on Part 1 and never touched part 2
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>>739095814
he really only saw her fully at the very end when Cloud forgave himself. Besides that she was only appearing as a voice and never showing her face.
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>>739093748
Alive. And she'll be reunited with Cloud.
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>>739093748
both, physically dead but remains as a force ghost so can appear any time in part 3

sadly the nu-FF7 book lore explicitly says sephiroth and aeris are rivals in the life stream. in the real OG FF7, aeris being present in the lifestream could have just been Cloud's delusion and wishful thinking, but no it's now unambiguously real thanks to hack writers.
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>>739095375
This is too much like FF8. They turned FF7 into FF8. Fucking retarded.
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>>739093748
HamaGOAT will let us reunite with Aerith, so she's alive in at least one timeline.
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She's healthy
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>>739095907
funny cat
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>>739093748
Are there actually people who think she won't live? What would be the point of defying the fate thing in remake?
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>>739093748
They are trying to make it as angsty as possble
cloud thinks she lives
he will later think she died
and then he will realize she lived
then he will have to say goodbye anyway because greater good and sephiroths plan blah blah
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>>739093748
We deafeat the harbinger of fate, Cloud blocks the sword in one timeline, Kitase says he wants them to have a happy ending after this long.
It's obvious Cloud will find out she died once, it will be very sad, then we will go on a quest to save her. Don't know how so many are in denial.
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>Literally had to stop discussing and theorycrafting about his favorite series of all time because of how toxic the fandom is
Why are you guys like this?
Max had good theories about FF7.
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>>739093748
That rebirth scene fucked up my sleep schedule since I couldn't sleep afterwards and it's still fucked now. I really thought I lost her. Later realized she is likely alive
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>>739096927
oh god yes
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I really need to replay Rebirth, i had to borrow my brothers ps5 when it launched so i just rushed through it missing 99% of side content...

probably try to do a run where i get all of chadleys shit and burn out mid way through
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>>739093748
She's alive in Cloud's heart. In the third game, she'll exist as Cloud's tulpa, allowing us to keep using Arcane Ward. I can't live in a world without Arcane Ward.
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>>739097469
Don't know or care about this guy, but why was he dogpiled?
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>>739097469
>>739097675
He just said he doesn't think these games should end in AC and it would feel pointless. Later on said shippers attacked him because of it lol
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>>739093748
We're missing her limit breaks, 100% she'll help in battles.
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This game's story is pretty bad and we only enjoyed it for the cool factor when we were younger, if you are still obsessed with it then something went wrong with your brain
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>>739097720
I think the games should definitely be connected to AC, but they already are because this is a sequel.
Anyway, shippers are dumb.
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>>739093748
>I'm getting too old for Nomura's wild ride
You're not old enough yet.

Once you become sufficiently aged, you realize that with Nomura, it's all just nothing. It's all fake deep smoke and mirrors bullshit. There is no significance to anything. There is no meaning behind it. There is nothing to "get". Nomura has a fundamental misunderstanding of what foreshadowing is or what a reveal is or what a twist is or what suspense is or what mystery is or any of that. He can only attempt to emulate it, like a child wearing his dad's suit. He does not understand what he's doing, there is no soul, there is no meaning. There is only nothingness with a vain attempt to "be".
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>>739097469
What a little bitch. Why didn't he just double down?
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>>739095375
>>739095461
I see Cloud and the party going back to the city of the ancients to uncover its secrets (when you get back to it with the key and see what aerith was gonna do originally) and thats when Cloud goes on a memory lane
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>>739093748
Cloud will think she's alive, then they'll convince him she's dead, then he'll find out she's really alive and will go to help her.
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>>739096927
She should sit on my face
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>>739093748
Why did they double down on Cloud and Aerith being the central romance?
They even made them songs and everything. Seems kind of cruel when they knew her fate.
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Honestly, I'd prefer if the game didn't just totally lead into Advent Children, because I personally feel like Advent Children is utterly superfluous. All it really does is show that Sephiroth has ways of returning from the Lifestream, that every defeat is merely a temporary setback. It makes for a poor finale because it lacks a sense of finality. Geostigma isn't a particularly interesting plot device, and the three manchildren Sephiroth clones are boring antagonists.

And don't get me started on Dirge of Cerberus either.
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>>739099762
But then how do we get the Fusion sword if it doesn't lead into AC....
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>>739099762
What, you didn't like the megazord ridealong?
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>>739097804
That's exactly what the was saying. He wants R3 to be the end of the FF7 Compilation. Not merely to lead into AC. Rather AC leads into the Remake trilogy with post-AC Sephiroth traveling back in time.
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>>739093748
She better be fucking alive after the bullshit they pulled. I'm STILL fucking salty we didn't get a 1:1 remake. If everything ends up the same after all the bullshit changes I'm done with this shit company.
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this game ended in 1997
they just keep digging out the body and performing dark rituals to it, turning it into a ever more grotesque thing
it's disgusting
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This Remake trilogy was a mistake
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>>739093748
Didn't they say the game mirrors the Loveless play? Where Cloud tells Aerith, 'don't promise to wait because I know I will find you again' or some shit like that?
Seems obvious they're hinting a reunion.
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>Won't be able to use Reunion as the title because they wasted it
lol
lmao
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>>739093748
Pretty much dead
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>>739100241
What would they be reuniting in part 3? Aerith still died. Biggs kill himself. Zack went back to his timeline. There's no reunion. If anything part 2 should have been Reunion instead or Rebirth.
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>>739100241
Are you referring to the Reunion Theory?
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>>739100158
The game mirrors the original FF7 on the PS1
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>>739093748
Obviously alive.
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>>739100483
I hope they bling up Cloud's fighting style a bit. His Punisher Mode is boring; he's just spamming the same dash attack over and over. Prime Mode's a bit better, but it also feels largely at odds with the usual depiction of Cloud's fighting style. It's a bit lacking in finesse.
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>>739100661
Zack has all the finesse
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>>739100550
Sorry bro, their words not mine.
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>>739100710
That's not quite it either. I'm hoping Cloud will fight more like how he does in Advent Children.
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>>739100767
Where? The Loveless game was CC
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>>739093748
Technically not dead. Remake is going to ensure every single person is happy.
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>>739100889
Even Hojo?
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Bros... she never left the party
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>>739100956
Zack is more alive than Aerith tho
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>>739100832
The Loveless in Rebirth is a completely different play. Have you not
played Rebirth?
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>>739093748
You could say fate was... changed
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I don't even get what's going on with Loveless. Like I never really understood it, but the play in Rebirth seems like it's a completely different story from whatever the fuck Genesis was going on about in Crisis Core.

Speaking of which, I hope we get to beat up Genesis in the third game. It'd be great if he starts quoting Loveless in the middle of battle, and we can interrupt him by smacking him in the face.
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>>739101051
Yeah the VR play in Rebirth is only based on one verse of the porm and has been playing since before CC. In the end it's just a play, or a VR play in Rebirth.
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>>739101119
The Loveless play in FF7 is just a screenplay. In the original piece there's nothing even remotely resembles the play they end up doing.
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Just to be clear, Loveless is actually mostly irrelevant, right? Like it's not actually meant to be an allegory for anything, right?
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>>739101649
It is about Laguna, Kiros, and Ward, but Genesis thought it was about him, Angeal, and Sephiroth.



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