>RTX 5090 pricing was already moving toward $4,000 in some listings,LOL, NVIDIA is saying that poor people don't deserve to play PC gameshttps://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-raises-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5090d-v2-board-prices-due-to-gddr7-cost-increase
>>739095235I have two ready for dlc5 unlike /v/ virgins
>>739095235>poor people don't deserve to play PC games?
>>739095235>lol he didnt buy before nvidia literally said they were cutting productionWhat are you retarded?
>>739095683Stop Being Poor
>>739095235Mamma mia!
>>739095235At this rate, only Chinese people will be able to buy those cards....
>>739095235Just make a competing GPU, there's nothing that guarantees that Nvidia has a monopoly.
Crazy what they charge for some rearranged plastic and copper these days, also doesn't this thing randomly comit sudoku I only use itx sff these days
>>739095891Yeah we all see how that worked with AMD and Intel. AMD just became the monopolist and charged even MORE for their chips than intel ever did and theyll do the same if they ever supplant nvidia
>>739095747>he didnt buyI have four 5090s and one 4090.But right now, the prices are so high that it’s hard for me to sell them at a reasonable price.No one wants to buy them.
>>739095235Developers are moving back to PS4-pro level graphics anyways. There just aren't enough people with modern RTX cards for it to be worth restricting their games to those specs.
>>739096008And there are no good games anyway
I have a 5090 for AI porn but it's not going to be useful in gaming because devs are going to start lowering fidelity since the average PC will become weaker and weaker.Theoretically they could improve performance through efficiency and good programming and such, but we all know that's not going to happen.
>>739095235and why would I need this? I have a 12gb 3060, can play anything past, present or future..
>>739096108>I have a 12gb 3060, can play anything past, present or future..Poorchads just can't stop winning it seems
>>739095235budget level professional card being marketed as a high end gamer card. but its shitty that the rest of the stack is climbing in price while stagnating heavily on vram at the lower end. 8GB cards shouldnt exist anymore but they're still being pumped out and rotting on shelves.
>>739096108This
>>739095235You don't need a 5090 to play video games
>4070 ti s>64gb ram>ryzen 7800x3d>plus everything else>$1900i love my 2024 puter
>>739096196Cool it with the economic terrorist remarks.
>>739096096What kind of ai porn?
I will forever remorse I sold a ton of (good) GPUs for only 3k in November last year
$4000 is not that much moneyi make that in half a month.
>>739096241Generate 2D static images with Stable Diffusion (Illustrious or NoobAI models) and create simple loops of boob jiggle or sex stuff with Wan 2.2. It can load some local text model stuff too but the Chinese models are so ridiculously cheap to use online that it might actually cost less to use those online than pay for electricity of using the GPU.I spend so much time doing this though that I kind of regret that the technology was invented sometimes.
>>739096258>I sold a ton of (good) GPUs for only 3kI have a 2060,a 4070 Ti,a 4080 Super,and a 9070 XT.These are all my spare graphics cards.I plan to use them to tide me over until the 6090 is released, after I sell my 5090.
>>739095235>A Ferrari is $700k>OMG Ferrari is saying poor people don't deserve to drive!!Idiot.
>>739096365Why this would be better than real porn/sex?
>>739096372
>>739096372But ferrari doesn't solve a problem other cars solve it adds nothing of value it's just a name
Still on a ten year old card and there's nothing I care about it doesn't run well.If something good actually came out I might have to reconsider but fat chance of that happening in the modern corposlop lowest common denominator design-by-committee environment.
>>739096005The resale value of these don't look too good, wonder where price will be in a year or 2 from now, definitely not a sound investment
>>739096428Because I have access to it, I guess.
>>739096498>definitely not a sound investmentYeah, it’s definitely hard to sell.But it lets me play games at 4K, 120fps, and max settings.I’ve got nothing to complain about.If I really can’t sell it, I’ll just wait for the 6090.
>>739095235Manchildren with their bing bing wahoos whining about having to compete against actual adults doing real work and providing real economic value for gpus now will never not be funny kek
I remember back in the day when oblivion was a hard to run game that the 8800 gtx was the main card to have, it was considered a real monster and it was expensive, I think like 700 bucks, an ounce of gold was around 600 backs then
>>739095235To be fair, the 5090 is not a gaming card, it's meant for workstations and AI sloppa.The top end cards in general stopped being for vidya back in 2013 when they released the Titan for $999.Yes you could game on the Titan just like you can on the 5090, but no game required such specs. It was overkill and only fools with money to burn bought it for gaming.
>>739096793and when crysis tried to convince you to tri sli to play one of the most mid shooters of all time at 30 fps
>>739096365Could you, theoretically, make a simple animation in the style of takorin?Its probably the only style I could see myself using AI to mass produce
>>739096818>no game required such specs.If you want to play games at 4K and 120fps, the 5090 is your only option.
>>739097251>50gb of tits and ass for lego
>>739097251based ue5we will need 6090s to play random ue5 games in a years time
>>739097083Imitating a specific artist's animation style is beyond AI unless someone were to train a LORA on it, and I doubt such a LORA exists unfortunately. Basically you take all his animations and run a miniature AI training thing on it for a few dozen hours or something, but I've never done it for video.Unfortunately like 98% of video AI customization stuff that people make and upload is realistic and not 2D. Something like sex acts still works, but the 2D style staying the same from beginning to end is a serious crapshoot with like a 10% success rate and then you take the fact that the animation itself messed up like 80% of the time and that each video generation takes 5-10 minutes...
>>739097309kek
>>739097251>4K 120fpsliterally 95% of people are using 1440p or less.
>>739096096>5090 for AI pornI just upgraded to a 5070 ti and it was quite annoying trying to get the 50xx series actually working with stable diffusion, I couldn't imagine fucking with 5090
>>739095770>>739095747>>739095683>>739095258>>739095592>>739095235Just get a 5070ti.You only need a 5090 if you're a retard who needs to play at 4k 120hz.
>>739097287>>739097251I'll probably be playing it on Switch 2 after a price drop. I'm not paying $90 for this shit just to get everything that should be on the disc on day 1.
>>739097083It's not very good at imitating animation styles yet. It's good at imitating art styles.Eventually it can probably do animation style but it's not there yet. It's more like that pixiv "live2D" style.
I hope my little 4080 super stays strong for a few years yet
>>739097671Different Anon with a 5090. I'm not sure what struggles you had with it. I do recall when I originally got a 5090 back in June of last year I had to manually install somethings, but I did a clean install of everything about a month ago and I had no issues and didn't have to do anything special.
>>739097251>5800xthis is a lego game WHY the fuck do you need that? Is there actual building destruction??>12 gb med 1440p@60 WITH DLSSdude just WHAT kind of shit you are doing for this req when Arkham Knight has more going on screen and needs LESS???
>>739097949I mostly had trouble due to an outdated guide and not realizing the 50xx series needed a nightly build, I got it working and if I had to do it again it'd be easy. It was my first completely new computer in a long while so I was fumbling around and missing a lot of dependencies that I kept glossing over.
>>739095235but i can play league of legends on a 1050ti just fine
>>7390977155070ti already got stupidly expensive too thank fuck i buy it before the price increase
Should just offer an RTX5085 at this point which is just 5090 clock/cores, but 16gb of vram.
I got a 5080 and a 1440p OLED. Should I get a 5090 now or wait it out for maybe 6090 in 2028?
>>739095235>build PC for around $4k USD thinking it's a ludicrous amount to spend on a PC>it's now worth $10k+ USDwhat the fuck LOL
>>739098484memory and gpus will be much cheaper a year from now once all the ai shit is gone
>>739098275UE5
>>739098595>once all the ai shit is gone
>>739098484do you just game or do you also tinker with AI?
>>739098595Hmm, that's a gamble.
>>739098595>he thinks ai is going anywheredumbfuck
>>739098678Game only.If I became God, I would release a wave of golden light that covers the world and unmakes the subhuman souls of everyone supporting AI. Perhaps harsh, but ultimately warranted.
>>739097251TtG should just go back to using their inhouse engine that ran on the most toaster of fucking toasters.
>>739098730that's nice anon, my advice would be to stick with what you have. there aren't enough games taking advantage of a 5090 to make it worthwhile imo
>>739098725none of these companies will survive 2026 and once their ads are gone everyone will forget about chatbots and image generators toothe majority hates them and does not use them anyway
>>739095235It's called inflation you faggots. The banks create currency out of loans, these fucks gave all just been borrowing currency into existence and bidding up the prices.We work for something they can print infinitely at will. Only gold and silver is money according to the American constitution and for good reason.
>>739098771True, but FOMO is real. And it seems that for the latest games, at max settings, at 1440p, 5080 isnt enough for comfortable 60 FPS at DLAA or even DLSS quality.
>>739096005You shouldn't even try to sell them for worthless fiat cash. Nominally, the price of those cards will rise with inflation as banks continue printing currency to deal with the currency crisis. No one here really understands, but it's absolutely everything to do with usury.
>>739095235>we know that we are artificially creating demand by reducing production then raising the price but there is nothing you can do to stop us goy, now pay up :^)
I got my 5080FE for msrp. Been playing shapez2 and that Warhammer mod for mount and blade
screw it, I'm going to make my own GPU. Can't be that hard. I see a bunch of vids on youtube.
>>739098846Which games?
>>739096372>poor people don't deserve to liveYest. WEF
>>739099029Crimson Desert with RenoDX for improved materials and lighting
>>739097671Stuff like cuda drivers and stuff, right? Yeah, same problem. Pretty sure every 50xx card is considered the same thing driver-wise. ComfyUI fucking sucks.
>>739099064Unfortunately I only played Crimson Desert for maybe 1 hour before deciding it wasn't for me. I can't say it was necessarily smooth on my 5090, though. However, my benchmark is 4k and 60fps+, although I aim for 144fps+. I've hit a lot of issues with some newer games that are just poorly optimized or have issues that cause jittering or frame drops.
>>739098906I'll fucking buy chinese at this point.
>got a 7900xtx last october for $800>rarely ever play AAA shit>mostly emulate old games at 4K>use loonix so I can brute force FSR4 on new games if I ever need toFeels like I got on the last chopper out of Saigon.
>>739099246Amd has finally said they’re officially bringing fsr4 to 7000 series cards
>>739099280I'm not going back to Windows but good for Winfags, AMD was doing them dirty by holding back the FSR4 model when the 7000 series was clearly capable of running it.
>>739095235thank god I bought one last year december
>>739095235>mfw upgraded in november
count yourself lucky they didn't dump consumer market graphics cards entirely this year like multiple other computer component manufacturers
>>739095235I almost got one for 2000 on release, but had to settle for a 5080 for 1000 instead.
>>739095235I have a 2060 and have no issues playing video games (picrel)
I was going to buy one of these to upgrade from my 5070, but I dunno. I don't even think that shit is going to be worth it. No word the Supers yet, so I don't know what to do. Just go to a Ti? A 5080?
>>739095235why do you need a 5090?
>>739099834for AI porn
>5090literal housefire card lmao
>>739099829Supers (if they were ever getting made) got cancelled because of the memory shortages. Their whole existence was dependent on new 3GB GDDR7 modules that may never make it to the consumer market now.
>>739098896>You shouldn't even try to sell them for worthless fiat cash.I was actually planning to convert all the money I earned into gold.The financial crisis is about to hit, and I plan to get out before the bubble bursts.The only problem is, no one is willing to buy my 5090 right now.
>>739098896>usuryJust say Jews
>>739095235Remember when people thought prices were finally coming down, and that the AI bubble was bursting?
I just bought a new PC with a 5090 cuz I'm a dumb, lazy nigger
>>739100124The bubble is not going to burst any time soon because the general public are fucking idiot boomers and boomers who don't want to destroy the illusion of fiat currency. The second it becomes profitable for the elite to crash the bubble, is when it will crash, but they're not going to let it crash because the general public wants to get boiled alive slowly and be stolen from slowly over time.
>>739096372>car/food analogythis is why you're on /v/tard
>>739095683>poor people don't deserve to play PC gamesjeets won't be able to play latest gamez saar. pls understand.
>>739098595>once all the ai shit is goneIs that before or after your dad comes home
>>739100125lol
>>739099983>Ridge Racers 2>AIImagine
>>739095235Funny thing is, if (when) this datacenter shit crashes down to reasonable levels (let's be real, it's never fully going away) they'll come back expecting the consumer market to prop them up again.And we will.
>>739099829>A 5080?5080's are gpu's for shitters who just buy whatever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72Gfh5mfTkwith the raw numbers on the table, the 5080 is basically Nvidia's revenge for not letting them get away with the "4080 12GB" (and subsequent $200 upcharge through the whole stack) 2 years ago.
>>739100927>the general public wants to get boiled alive slowly and be stolen from slowly over time.This is known as hyperinflation
>>739100981>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE COMMON THINGS EVERYONE KNOWS AS ANALOGIES
>>739101219Hyperinflation is when the public becomes aware of the theft via inflation and decide they don't want to get boiled alive slowly any more and they deploy all their currency immediately, resulting in hyperinflation as currency comes out of hiding.
>>739100124Lmao the recent years have shown that gold is worthless because its value dropped during a crisis since nobody trusts the value it says on paper. The only fiat you can trust is pure American dollars backed by the might of the us military
>>739100124I just bought an apartment for rentingI dont trust the banks to keep my money safe in the incoming crisis
>>739097715Of course I do need to play games 4K over 120Hz. My 5070 Ti does that for the most part pretty well. 5080 is a bust with the same VRAM, and the 5090 is unjustifiable.
>>739101318>now the dollar is suppossed to stay strong because the US has the bigger guns>better not mention the US economy or industry
>>739097251UE5 and it's consequencesThe fact you need an xx80/90 just to play games native is abysmal
>>739101538whoops the $6,000,000 guns were blown up by a $15.99 drone
>>739095235there are no games worth playing at this high level of visual fidelity and if you need your games to look like this you are not in it for the games you are a tech enthusiast and a performative loser.
>have a 9950x3d and 64gb of ram>but only a 3070 because I only play old gamesIt's an abstract sort of life.
>>739102189I just wish I got a 4090 instead of a 4070ti. Biggest mistake of my life so far.
>>739097251>>739101613Didn't Traveler's Tales put 4 years of work into that custom engine they made for Skywalker Saga? Why waste all that effort to immediately dump it for UE5 in their next game?
My 9070 XT is perfect for my use caseI just wish it wasn't a choice between greedy fuckwits or fucky greedwits for GPU vendor
>>739102412Because H1Bs can only do the needful in Unreal
have a 5080, overclocks nicely but wish i had a 5090 just for more headroom in VR. thats like saying i wish i had a golden toilet that sucks my dick while i take a shit. if i run into any game i can't run totally maxed then its the devs fault not mine.
>>739095235total boomers, corpos and tinny hats death
>>739103215At least one of those is inevitably coming soon
>>739098827>everyone will forget about chatbots and image generators tooIts not gonna get away. AI generation are excellent tool for timesaving work. Most of things you know is already using AI, it just they dont want to admit it
Currently using an Aorus 2080ti 11gb windforce.What should I upgrade to that will see performance gains commensurate witht he price I pay?
>>739103692The best value for money option is to buy the 4080 Super with 16GB of memory.That way, you’ll be able to play a few games in 4K.However, if you’ve got enough money to spare, go for the 5080.That way, you’ll be able to hold out until the 6090 is released.
>>739103692>performance gains commensurate witht he price I pay?The growing anti-semitic sentiment on this website is deeply concerning.
>>739103692If you fancy trying AMD, go for the 9070XT.It’s quite cheap, and it’s a 16GB graphics card too.Just don’t try running it at 4K.
>>739103692Travel back a year and get 5070ti, 5080 or 5090 at prices from back then.Or become a memester and get 9070XT now. You get shitty AMD upscaling support, broken framegen and a lack of PT in games, but it was comparatively cheap.
Huawei is going to have it sorted by 2030. Established brands are abandoning the consumer market to jump on the short term speculative golden goose like retards, it'll be free pickings for the Chinese.All you have to do is hold.
>>739103692Buy the 5070 Ti 16GB when it hits a low of $775 shortly after the announcement of the 6070 Ti 18GB with an MSRP of $1100
>>739103758>>739103819>>739103837>>739103883Thanks bros. I'll DMOR based on your input - thanks.>>739103771kek
Name a single reason why I should bother upgrading from my 3080. No, 4k is not a real reason.
>>739096316Not 4000 of your dollars
>>739103870I reckon there’ll just be more and more AMD GPUs in the future.AMD’s products may be rubbish, but they’re the only option you can actually afford.
>>739095235All according to plan, they next step is leasing the compute back to you from those data center they are building. Enjoy your latence and input time.
>>739095891>there's nothing that guarantees that Nvidia has a monopolyDo you perhaps have suicidal tendencies?
>>739095891The pool is too deep to compete and gamers won't support an half baked product for a few gen in the hope it becomes good like the Intel GPU.
>>739104092You know AMD is also going all in on AI slop, right? It isn't a green vs red issue. AMD's market share among gamers is FALLING during this shit show, they aren't going to double down on a strategy that makes them no money
>>739104197You have no choice.Unless you want to buy a $1,600 Steam machine.
remember how everyone was waiting for Super cards lmaooo
Things were better and still recoverable 4 years ago. You voted for this
>>739104271I voted for this
>>739096226Based, except I joined the club too late so I only got 32gb ram Us 4070tiS+7800x3D chads have been eating good.
>>739096365>Wan 2.2LTX 2.3 mogs WAN 2.2Faster gen + Long vid duration + SOUNDResult might be slightly worse than Wan 2.2 but that because LTX 2.3 is still new and More Loras is cumming
>>739096365>>739104604Niggas you really need to go this far to oogle cartoon children?
>>739104629>go this farSounds like you've got a skill issue. It's not difficult at all.
>>739104629Forgive them; it’s the only way an incel can get a woman.
>>739095235>NVIDIA is saying that poor people don't deserve to play PC gamesNo, what NVIDIA is saying is that non-corporate or government entities should not possess access to personal computing.
>>739104808>forgive them for indulging a harmless hobbyI suppose you think Jeffry Epstein was a national hero too, right?
>>739104910>was in bed with literally everyone noteworthy >always had a smug look on his face He was an hero alright
>>739104910>Jeffry EpsteinYou’re just jealous of my best friend, Epstein.
>>739104457>>739096226 same here except 64 gb & 4080 super
>>739096316Consolefags made this argument a decade ago. Oh how PCiggers have fallen.
>>739095235The 6090 will have the performance of a 7090 but only cost $400. Trust the plan
>>739098484The thing with the 5090 is that it's a terrible card in the sens of being very power hungry and lacking in vram. That kind of side upgrade will bite you in the ass on one specific point. Nvidia is gatekeeping the new version of dlss to the new cards, so when the new cards are out (if they ever) you won't have access to the shinny new dlss. Unless you have a lot of excess cash and spend way too much time on your computer it's not worth it.
>>739105284>Nvidia is gatekeeping the new version of dlss to the new cards, so when the new cards are out (if they ever) you won't have access to the shinny new dlss.I guess it depends on what you mean. DLSS5 is shit they can keep to themselves. Mega Geometry is something I would like.
>>739097409and 99.97% of people don't have a 5090. What's your point?
Companies can't even continue to make AAA games with realistic graphics, it's unsustainable what with the budget cost and dev time increasing every year.
>>739095235I just upgraded my 4790k/2080 to a 9900kf/3080 for €600 (32GB RAM included in that price) because everything is so expensive. Not like I need much more anyway, honestly, I play my games at 1080p.
>>739105424why are you forgetting DLSS5
>>739095235The more you buy the more you save
>>739097251>4KSorry I'm not gay. In this house it's 1080p 400+FPS or bust.https://streamable.com/5yszze
>>739101318Gold dumps in value every crisis because it is the first asset everyone sells if they need money now.It is still the best value holder as long as you assume some semblance of civilization will remain after dust settles.
>>739105381>and 99.97% of people don't
>>739105515There it is. Took until 4:30 AM but my watch is ended for tonight.
>>739105627>1080p 400+FPS>Sorry I'm not gayCS2 GAY
Poors don't know that you can sell your top of the line gpu for a very high price at the start of a new gen and it only cost you couple hundred euros for years of top tier gaming experience. Currently sitting on a 5090 Astral that will sell very well just before 6090 comes out
>>739097251>4070 required to render plastic looking cubesUE5 has reached peak grim.
Everything I've seen about the flagship models for quite a few years now is that you only need them if you have other expensive gear to pair it with so yeah, it's for rich people only. Everyone else can still game on cards with significantly more reasonable prices.
>>739104629Yes
>>739095235I'll stick to 1080p gaming, thanks
>>739095235>LOL, NVIDIA is saying that poor people don't deserve to play PC gamesI've been using a 1060 super since my 980 Ti died years ago and the only issues I've ever had were CPU relatedThere is nothing in gaming that genuinely requires a 5090 or even close... These cards aren't made for gaming anymore, they're made for AI and mining
>>739106280>he doesn't generate anime girlsLMAO
>>739106280>he doesn't play modern gamesno one cares what you say moron
>>739106296NTA but that's only good if you have a waifu that doesn't get enough art, otherwise it gets boring after a few days>>739106280Same, crazy how much mileage I've gotten out of my 1060 I bought in 2017, 99% of games I care about still run flawlessly on this thing
>>739106393Name 1 modern game worth playing that my 1060 super cant run
>>739095235>5090 for 5090I CAN FEEL IT
>>739106431all of them, because your card doesn't exist
>>739106483My bad, you're right, its a 1660 super
>>739106513Peak India and SEA card now. All those "low settings, FSR3 quality, framegen to 52 FPS" benchmarks are for you.
>>739106431What does "can't run" mean to you though?Are you fine with 30fps?If not, I guess Fallout London. That's pretty neat and will struggle to do 1080p/60 on a 1660.
>>739106569>>739106578>Name a modern game>Names a mod for an 11 year old game that runs on the creation engineYou can't even name one single good modern video game can you
>>739106638That's about as modern as I play anon.-t 9070XT enjoyer.
>>739105381Stop larping as a poor, if you actually play video games and aren't just a tourist then why would you not invest a measly few grand into your rig? It's like one of the cheapest hobbies to have the 'best' gear for, think about how much it costs to get a top tier piano or even a golf club set.
>>739107062>think about how much it costs to get a top tier piano or even a golf club setDifference is neither of those will be obsolete and need to be replaced in a few years.
>>739097715>You only need a 5090 if you're a retard who needs to play at 4k 120hz.Literally just play good old games, 4k 120hz is amazing and even a 9060XT handles it perfectly if you disregard Jeet Engine 5 slop.
>>739102454Same. 9070XT does pretty much everything I need for $400 less than what the 5070ti is going for. Genuinely fucked that the market has come to this.
>>739095235If one was ready to spend $2500 on a GPU then I'm sure the extra 1500 won't hurt that much.
I voted for this
>>739107710you are very bad at math
>>739096258I sold my 1yo rig with a 4090 for $3000 back in june last year. If I had waited I could have sold it for 6k.
>>739107892$4000 is two months worth of video gamesCan you give up video games for two months to buy one video card?
>>739108000>$4000 is two months worth of video gameswhat the fuck
>>739108000>trips>claims 4k is 2 months of video gameswhat the fuck is going on
>>739108028Yeah you gotta pay your:ISP$80 video gamessubs for twitch/4chan/youtubeBy the time a month has rolled over, you've already spent something like $1,100.
>>739108075Anon, stop subbing to onlyfans, jesus.
>>739108101sorry but it's a bad habit
>>739108075peak consumer cattle
>>739108328$120 games soon?
>>739095235Wasn't the 5090 2000$ ?What 4000$?
>>739108647>Anon lives under the rock
>>739108647Have a look on eBay you’ll have a surprise.
The hard truth:The 4090 may not be as powerful as the 5090, but it is absolutely the better GPU.
>>739108750>>739108804
>>739108897I hope you are only pretending to be retarded.
>>739108972The official price is 2000$ or 1720€
>>739109016Try buying one at that price then.
>>739109038NTA but what about prebuilts?
>>739099029Black Myth Wukong with all settings at Cinematic and Path Tracing for example
>>739109093Yes, that might still be possible.But you will likely end up with a barebones PNY card or an MSI Ventus or other lower quality model. MSI Ventus is secretly a good option, if you get a 3D printed bracket and switch the fans to Noctua ones.
Soon I can sell my second 5090 and have gotten my first one for free.
>>739102189I have a 5090 and 128g of RAM, but mostly play pixel shit like Slay the Spire and Mewgenics :)
its time about time gaben makes steam work on mobile chips.then the whole industry should jump ship to that.muh hardware race is a dead end.
>>739109093There was a time when that was a good option but not anymore.
>>7390961638GB is all you need
>>739109148I got a Windforce 5090 for 1400€ on a prebuilt rig from a german online shop and that was back in februaryThat's a pretty good model and it was cheap af
>>739099246>>got a 7900xtx last october for $800What a fucking bargain, holy shit.
>>739109434Its the lowest Gigabyte model. About as good as MSI Ventus. Obviously doesnt matter if you get a crazy great price like that.
>>739095235The people who were willing to buy a 5090 for whatever the fuck hte price was before (3500?) wont give a fuck about it now costing 500 moreThe people who weren't buying it at 3500 wont be buying it at 4000 eitherThis literally doesnt affect anyoneThere's not a single person who's like "hmm yes 3500 for a GPU thats a fair price, but 4000? no can do". The sort of retard willing to pay 3500 will pay 4000 too.
>>739109491It's also a nearly zero noise model which makes it superior for me to all the others choices
>>739095235>LOL, NVIDIA is saying that poor people don't deserve to play PC gamesThey're right though. Poor people gaining access to vidya was a huge mistake.
Good, make it cost 12k. Make it too expensive for AI sloppers
>>739109538Thats great.But also keep this in mind. Your pals at Gigabyte might have been too good at calculations.https://videocardz.com/newz/designed-too-close-to-fail-gigabyte-rtx-5090-repair-points-to-tiny-resistor-issue
You should have buyderized a blackwell 6000 by now.
>>739109434>I got a Windforce 5090 for 1400€ on a prebuilt rig from a german online shop and that was back in februaryBloody hell, you’re lucky.That single 5090 GPU alone set me back 3,500 dollars.And now the price has gone up even further.
>>739109769yeah I just checked the prices right now and it's pretty crazy! I bought from MemoryPC, maybe they still have >>739109616Good to know! I've got a 4 years hardware guarantee, hopefully if it does fails it will be during that timeframe
>>739109907>maybe they still haveIf you can still get it at such a low price, snap it up straight away.Then take the 5090 apart and sell it for $3,000.
Le bubble burst soon? Money running away.https://blocknow.com/stock-market-bubble-smart-money-exits-ai-dalio-warning/
>>739095235i already preordered 2
did you guys know data centers barely have any personal in them just a fyi
>>739110375The problem with data centers is not what it stores, the problem is that data centers are massive drain on local electric grid and it uses huge amounts of pumped water for cooldown. In other woeds, it's terrible for locals and nature
>>739110875>In other woeds, it's terrible for locals and natureThis is FUD being spread by anti-AI commie lefty pedo trannies.If the current infrastructure can't support it then just upgrade it. We've been upgrading infrastructure regularly for centuries now. It's not that big a deal.The idea it has a greater environmental impact than, picking something at random here, a recycling plant is utter nonsense. But you won't see any anti-AI commie lefty pedo trannies protesting against the construction of recycling plants.Fuck anti-AI commie lefty pedo trannies.
>>739111003It's not very funny to ragebait :(
>>739111003the bubble will pop and you will be homeless soon lmao
>>739111049All I did was state facts.But of course nothing makes a commie lefty pedo tranny rage like objective facts, right?
>>739111003>upgrade itlmao how naive, they just raise the price for everyone, they already have.
I don't want 4000$ 5090How to get 2000$ 5090?
What are the chances of RTX 6xxx not being a total scam?I would like to upgrade at some point.Is 5090 tier performance at $1500 even possible?
>now something what was overpriced becomes even more overpriced.So what?
>tfw i play on 1080p and overkill any game with a 4070TI
>>739111003There is absolutely zero benefits from the locals
>>739111846It gives them job prospects. Apart from that who cares? There's a lot of things that provide a benefit to all of society but don't provided bonus benefits purely for locals.
>>739107062>2tb sadPre build trash
>>739111842You are living in fantasy land where UE5 games don't exist.
>>739095235My gayming PC still has R9 380 4GB...
>>739107062Golf clubs are cheaper than an 5090 and they won’t set your house on fire
I don't really care what the price is on the rtx 5090. I wouldnt buy it if it was only $1k
If you genuinely still desire a "gpu" in 2026 and something from Nvidia consider suicide.
>>7390952355090 is completely unnecessary to play PC games thoughthere are barely any games worth playing that would even make use of a powerful graphics card
>>739112440>burnt bridge chink.lol.
>>739095235I have one and the only things I "play" where it's even useful to have a card this powerful are SpaceEngine and local AI for gooning. Modern games are too shit to bother with.
If you don't think a 5090 is required to game in 2026, it's because you're a bitch ass who has no appreciation for technology and has to settle for shit tier rendering. Even with a 5090 I find I have to use DLSS and frame generation to game at 4k without peasant tier framerates. Now imagine trying to game with the same quality and performance but with a fucking 3rd world tier 4060 or something. Embarrassing.
>>739095235isnt the 6000 RTX series coming out next year? why is this rising in price if thats the case?>>739095258oh memory shortage, AI bullshit as per usual
>>739112483ALL HAIL DLSSexcept those idiots who make their games crash when they run out of video memory :<
Path tracing is the ultimate "yeah but your GPU isn't still good enough"I know people here are like "yeah my 9070xt is more than enough" but framerate/framepacing standards have generally increased.
my 1070 8gb will last me until I am a chopped unc
>>739097365I found that using the wan 2.2 turbo mode is fine for boob jiggling animations. It starts to repeat after seven seconds of video but up until that point it's pretty good and only takes a few seconds to generate instead of the 10 minutes for the full version.
>>739112483Tell that to publishers and developers.They got used to constant hardware improvements gen over gen. Now unless you buy the top tier GPU you aren't getting significantly increased performance vs previous generation.Thanks Unreal Engine, thank you nVidia and AMD!
>>739097671Wot. SD is very matured now you shouldn't have problems with SD. I think you're just having problems with Comfyui which is understandable. Comfy fucking sucks with tons of missing nodes and random shit breaking for no reason
>>739097715Why not get an AMD GPUAre those still cheap
>>739097083Wan2.2 could do frame to frame animation but you need the wan2.2 enhanced model (not the vanilla wan2.2). It's pretty interesting seeing what the model come up with what kind of motion to pose one character from one pose to another. As for actual animation... It's not particularly great. Motion controls still very basic (prompt based). You can use Wan Animate to get a model to pose according to reference but the model proportions will be fucked in the process.Also honestly most gooners using wan2.2 just gen the most boring generic stuff like some random hot girl undressing showing her boobs or just random latinos in bikinis walking in slow-mo. Meh. After you've seen the 100th big boobed gens it just lose its lustre
>>739112487spotted the subhuman without even trying
>>739106413I had a 1060 and I couldnt even play nier automata. Big cope.
>>739113194>Why not get an AMD GPUanon...
>>739112653This. Any poorfag arguing that (You) dont need a 5090 has never even tried to 4K path tracing full ultra settings a game from the last 2 years. Probably because their shit rig would implode at the mere thought kek
>>739112440I do and I love how good modern games look, especially in VR.
>>739113306>min rec NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 VRAM 2GB weird
>>739113419>spend 4x the price for 2x performance to play goyslop that's using all the features that Nvidia made up to let game studios outsource more shit to jeets
>>739113414Why
>>739113419you actually need a blackwell 6000.
>>739113419Based & true. Recently upgraded from 1440p oled to 4k oled and it's nice as fuck
>>739095747I was considering upgrading from my 4090 but for like a 25% perf boost it doesn't seem worth the bother. The card is very disappointing, 25% gen-to-gen is really bad. Hopefully the 6090 or whatever they'll call it will be a big boost that's worth caring about.
>>739113510my goyslop looks 1000x better than your goyslop tho...stop jestermaxxing your cope while I 4K mog the shit out of your chopped rig with my lookmaxxed GPU.
>>739113602welcome to the side of WINNERs anon! dont let the brown poorfags try to shit on your parade like they do in their streets
I have a 5070 Ti laptop and it plays literally everything fine at native resolution. I HAD a 4090 and found I never needed it, ESPECIALLY with the push for DLSS and FSR.
I switched to Geforce now premium. Its honestly worth it for me.
>>739113526i'd take an Intel ARC over an AMD thingbut you do you
>TFW graphics are going to go back to PS3 era due to a combination of excessive hardware price and lack of optimizationWow I sure can't fucking wait for my RTX7060Ti to be unable to play Halo Reach remastered (looks the same as the original release but requires 40x the processing power)
>>739113762Can you mod games on GayForce now?
>>739113419>Trying to do 4k, RT at 120 FPSI never realized that once you go to 120 FPS that it's really damn hard to go back to 60 FPS because now 60 FPS feels sluggish.
>>739108884>The 4090 may not be as powerful as the 5090, but it is absolutely the better GPU.how come?I'm currently using 4090 FE I really like it but was thinking about selling it cause I have 5090 FE waiting in a boxwhich has certainly better specs for my use case (mainly VR and maybe AI)already gave 2 x 3090 for a separate local ai box, so won't really have a use for 4090
>>739113826yeah faggots that keeps coping with "human eyes cant see the difference between 60 and 120 FPS!" are fucking ridiculous. You can even feel the difference between 120 and 240-300 FPS.
>>739113826>play CP2077 in 4k>FPS jumps around from 100fps to 20fps without any connection to scenerythe suffering is real
>>739113776Elaborate
>>739113632not even 2x actuallyand unlike you i don't have to agree to the humiliation ritual of using a jeet style connector to power the card that can fucking implode because nvidia chose to save pennies on a card that costs thousandsand i also get to skip the humiliation ritual of using a decaying jeetOS
>>739097715>Paying 900-1300 bucks for 16 gigs of ram
>>739113632NTA but it really doesn't. I'm >>739113756, I bought a 4090 specifically to play BM: Wukong and Cyberpunk with full path-tracing at 4K. Then I went and bought Cyberpunk when it was on sale on the PS5 Pro and had a hankering to play it again (plus I wanted to platinum it), and it really didn't look or run much different. I think people get caught up in the small, autistic details like water reflections or 0.00000000000001% more realistic shadows, ignoring the honest to God truth that the second you start actually *playing* the game and start focusing on your objective, or navigation, or the enemies, or whatever else the game tosses at you, then you really don't notice graphical differences unless they're egregious like MK1 on the Switch. Hell, how many people praises The Witcher 3 or Doom Eternal on the Switch because of its portability? Or MK9 on the Vita? The second you actually get invested in the gameplay, graphics are irrelevant.
>>739112673>isnt the 6000 RTX series coming out next year? why is this rising in price if thats the case?Preparing customers for higher prices. They have been doing it a couple times now to drive up prices with every new generation. 4090 launch price was 1599. Usually it would go down from there. But towards the end they cut production way to deep and prices went past 2000. Then 5090 was announced with 25% increase but everyone was happy how "cheap" it was compared to the inflated 4090 prices.
I'm happy with my 5070 Ti which I bought for $750 last summer. >16 GB ram for AI slopa>Runs all older and AA games at ultrawide 3440x1440 native >Runs modern demanding slop like CP2077 at 165 mhz 1440UW with path tracing and ray reconstruction on via DLSS and multi frame gen at graphical fidelity good enough to not notice any issues without actively searching for them.Only thing bad about Nvidia are their dogshit drivers. Only yesterday I had to roll back to 591 drivers to fix crashes while getting 5% performance uplift
>>739105139same, even got a 4080s FE
>>739113951it's a cultural thingjust look at DLSS vs FSR
>>739112653name one game worth playing that uses these technologies
>>739114182Papers, please!
>>739112653>Even with a 5090 I find I have to use DLSS and frame generation to game at 4k without peasant tier framerates.This is precisely why 4k and the 5090 feel like a total meme to me. Devs are so fucking bad at their jobs that they'd rather you have to use ai upscaling and fake frames to make the most of your $4,000 top of the line gpu.
>>739114153I dont really use fake frame generation What's the point of it anyway if you have a powerful gpu?
I don't play modern slop. My 3060ti runs all my good old games perfectly well.
>>739114130>Only thing bad about Nvidia are their dogshit driversIf Nvidia's are dogshit, AMD and Intel and dinossaurshit.
>>739112653I will use DLSS, but I refuse to use frame gen. It just feels off with frame gen even if you are only trying to generate 10 or so extra frames.
>>739114265>what's the point of not being gay
>>739112673>isnt the 6000 RTX series coming out next year? why is this rising in price if thats the case?The standard price for the 6090 is $3,999.And there’s absolutely no way you’ll be able to buy it at that price.If you can get a 6090 for $4,500, you’re in luck.
>>739114318They are much better and have been for the last 5 yearsWell I don't know about Intel who the fuck uses arc
>>739114265where did I say anything about frame generation? I'm referring to a game at 30% resolution looking pristine with a minimum of ghosting (which anyway is only visible in racing or train/plane sim games) at 4k
>>739095235>people don't deserve to play PC gamesBased.
>>739114318nigger, amd's linux drivers are the best in the fucking industryhell, even on windows they don't have the problem that nvindians do of holding onto old drivers and knowing what driver they're on because new shit is broken
>>7390952355090 doesnt even put up good numbers. its an ai card retard. you can still spend 300 dollars and have a good card that plays video games at 60 fps.
>>739114318I've been using AMD gpus for years and the only card that ever gave me problems was the Vega64, and even then the problems were few and far between.
>>739113960>>739114119>"today on the latest episode of Insane copes!"
>>739099773why do you have a 2060? you can play video games on a voodoo 2.
>>739114476i never had any problem with nvidia driver, neither on linux (not gaming tho lol) nor on windows 7/10for like decades
>>739099773Does it have that bitchin USB-C plug? those things are wicked, I'm sad they got rid of them
>>739114576>if you don't want to give up your anal virginity to nvidia you're coping
>>739112037>apart from that who cares?The locals who get bigger electronic bills and get their groundwater drained. Bit whatvwould an indian care because you haven't got an electronic grid nor groundwater
>>739114182CP77, Wukong, RE9, Pragmata... all 80-90 meta games with good optimization to boot (after the launch fiasco fro CP77 ofc)
>>739112037>it's ok to pillage a smaller, local population for the greater good aka create datacenters to run AI modelsWow
>>739095235Should i replace my 1660s with a 4060 8gb? I can get it for 250~ euros.
>>739114705>WukongIsn't that shit UE5? Can't imagine it being very optimized.
Retards will still buy it.
>>739114770no, 8gb nvidia cards are doaamd ones are fine because linux has vastly better vram management
>>739096096>I have a 5090 for AI porn but it's not going to be useful in gaming?? your 5090 already can barely keep above 60 fps in new titles max settings 4k. more power is ALWAYS useful since you can always supersample and use higher framerates
>>739114851great job anon you're on a saudi hit list now
>>739114705>CP77, Wukong, RE9, Pragmata... all 80-90 meta gamesHoly goy. Do you get grok to think for you as well?
>>739114894Nah, i'm gonna buy it today. Fuck modern gaming. As long as it can run Falcom and sega games i'll be fine.
>>739109016>1720€ Even with the retarded vat applied (around +20%) it was never at MSRP in Europe.
>>739114959sure, it's your funeral
>>739115032Keep crying.
>>73911477016gb only cards from now on
>>739114958these are all actual good games, anon. I know your troon brain can only appreciate Mixtape and porn furry VN nowadays but no need to shit on good games because (You) hate yourself...
>>739107062>top tier piano or even a golf club setThe difference is that, a top tier piano is a marginal improvement over a shittier piano, and having one extra golf club is a marginal improvement over not having it.Meanwhile the difference between a 60/70/80/90 is scam tier, with some sometimes being worse than previous gen one or being the difference between a good experience overall or not.Not to say they last decades.
>>739115061>if you call me a retard for making a retarded and myopic decision then you're crying
Had a 3070ti for years and it still plays everything I want.
>>739095235It's a good thing that PC games today suck so let them continue wasting their time and money.
>>739114705none of these are worth upgrading for, now poe2 thats some worth upgrading for
i wouldnt play poe2 even if they sent me a free 5090 to play it
>>739115247I also play POE2 and its really badly optimized on the CPU side. GPU dont do much on this game.
>>739114705in real market conditions you could rent a top tier video card for $400, two months, and play those games to death (implying u have no job/school) and never need that graphics card again in your lifeTHAT's what I call an investment... the rest is cope
>>739114793it's actually decently optimized except for the last chapter because they went full-scale giant environments for the magic flying cloud meme.
>>739114793both Unity and UE can be optimized if you actually pay people to do it, and don't spend all your money on gay trans jeets making assets
>>739115523i meant overall PC upgrade
>>739115846well if you mostly want to play poe2, you can save money on the full upgrade and just change your CPU if you already have a good graphic card. it's just like Factorio where the graphics are nothing compared to the CPU calcs (but in poe2 it's because GGG are terrible at optimization)
>>739116105im probably getting a 5070ti and 9850x3d at some point my pc is like 10 years old im surprised it can even run it at 30-60fps
>>739116257yeah it should run fine on this rig
>>739116257>5070tilolthe only nvidia card with any value left at this point is the 5070
>>739115175That's called economic terrorism in the current year +11.
>>739116318>12gbthat wont last long imo>>739116280yeah from what ive seen in benchmarks at 1080p it should be fine
>600 watts space heater>4klel
>>739116379>that wont last long imoif your concern is longevity you would get a 9070xt and use linuxlinux is basically fucking reviving low vram cards now
>>739115623I think you can already "rent" a 5080 tier card from that streaming nvidia thing. It's a nice solution for poors
Shits getting too expensive. time to slow down enjoy a good game of stick ring and let the world pass you by.
>>739116446im never getting an AMD card or using linux unless its SteamOS im not learning to code just to deal with basic shit on my PC
>>739116446>linux is basically fucking reviving low vram cards nowThat fix doesn't work on nV GPUs :^)
>>739115069Holy projection, goy. Mixtape's got a 100 metascore; you should be playing it, by your own standards.
>>739116486so you've never used linux and are parroting shit you heard somewhere else?>>739116498and that's why i said you would want amd for longevityyou have cards from almost 20 years ago running on the current mesa driver while nvidia has killed pascal support
>>739116456the first time i heard of that streaming nvidia thing i thought it was a scamturns out it's real... while also being a scam>latencylets
>>739116481You don't even need to go to that hyperbole when shitty games you can emulate on a 150 burger pesos phone have 10x the gayplay of modern gaymes.
>>739116603>so you've never used linux and are parroting shit you heard somewhere else?do you have to use the command line to do shit on linux? i rest my case
>>739116687what shit? linux is defined by configuration files and the vast majority of shit people do in the terminal is simply a more convenient way of editing configuration files which you can still do manuallyyou don't need it to install shit or update, those come through gui
>>739116603You get that driver support because it's an open source project.AMD doesn't care about their cards soon after the release them.So there the situation is reversed, nV has longer support for the majority of the users because those people use Windows.I really wish nGreedia didn't hate Linux, because both companies are just as bad and I would want to stay away from microshit.
>>739116848see what i mean
Yes if you are poor you cant play games.>bought 5090 mad earlyFeels gud
>>739117304yes, you don't understand what CLI is a better way of doing shit than digging through arcane shit like regeditlinux is simpler for power users and simpler for casuals, you're just used to the jeeted way of doing things and balk at the idea of learning a better way>>739117138and how is that relevant? cards will last longer on linux, it's really that simplenvidia could have a piece of the pie but they choose to vibecode their shit alone and keep it closed source
I think they should raise the price to $10,000 to see how much people would be willing to pay
>>739114906oy gevalt
>>739117621the pro 6000 blackwell is already $8900 and it's a 5090+ 12%
>>739117621what does it matter to you? You didn't buy one when they were 2k , increasing the price to 10k won't change that
not video games but keep shilling your taiwanese cum remains from 2 years ago
>>739116848>you don't need it to install shit or update,not if you have hardware which isn't on the vendor list.
>>739117572Why are you comparing a command line interface to a program designed to edit a very specialized form of database? That's apples and oranges.What makes the CLI powerful in linux is not it's non-existent ability to edit a plain text file. A long time ago it could be argues linux had a much more useful and powerful CLI but those days have been over for a while now. Linux is not better because it has terminal based text editors for it which Windows also has but nobody ever uses for good reason.
>he payed 4000 burgerbux for fake frames fire hazardI'll be sitting here smugly with my 7900 XTX. It works for me.
There's not a single game worth upgrading for
>>739118025show us your cyberpunk path tracing benchmarks
>>739118035Modded Skyrim
>>739118124Sorry, I don't play open world slop that took 3 years to fix post-launch which hasn't even justified the technology that it was built for.
>>739118169>I can't run itI know.
>>739117901and that's not the fault of linux>>739118003because that's what people are complaining aboutthe terminal looks scary to the outsider but it's way easier for a power user than the fucking mess you have on windows
>>739116848>linux is defined by configuration filesBASED SYSTEMD DENIER
>>739118227>you don't need to use command lines>you do if you venture away from logitech hardware>well that's not linux faultfuck off
>>739118124how does pathtracing improve gameplay?
>>739118296How do games play when you stop looking at them?
>>739118365are you playing VIDEO games or video GAMES?
>>739118124>path tracingwtf is that? like those extra options from raytracing?>TFW enabling raytracing and no performance impact>enable extra raytracing shit and performance drops from 50fps to 5fps2070let
>>739118227>the terminal looks scary to the outsider but it's way easier for a power user than the fucking mess you have on windowsMostly linux users insist on using the terminal all the time just because the equivalent GUI based tools are kind of crap. Rarely in linux is someone using anything other than the very, very basic functions of the CLI.
>>739118412I'm playing all the video games. You're playing some video games. You think visuals aren't important in a fucking VIDEO game. You dumb cunt.
>>739118412I'm playing VIDEO GAMES because I'm not a poorfag needing to choose between the two, unlike (You) brownie
>>739095235What games actually utilize the extra power of a 5090 and couldn't run at max settings on a 4080 or something?
>>739118606>>739114705>fyi
>>739118606You aren't running much of 4k max settings of anything on a 4080
>>739118124Until path tracing can be run natively without some kind of upscaling crutch, it wont mean shit. Not even the 5090 can do that.
>>739118273>logitech hardware???most high end shit doesn't need you to actively use software to customise it and for those you can still keep a castrated 10 install on a separate driveit's still blaming the wrong party>>739118480and equivalent gui tools in windows suck shit too because that shit wasn't made to be actively manipulated
>>739118687I can run path tracing without upscaling. Your poorfag knowledge is outdated lol
>>739104604the irony with local AI models is they are getting more an more efficient in getting more out of lower VRAM requirements. Sure LTX2.3 needs at least 12gb VRAM, but the distilled model is 8 steps and you can gen at 1080p in he time it takes to gen at a lower resolution - plus 20 secs of generation versus a paltry 6 sec gen on Wan2.2. The as you said there is sound and lip syncing, music videos can be made. Then there is music generation via Ace Step XL turbo. This is why AI is taking over, it is in the hands of people who can do it all at home without even needing to visit the likes of Seedance, Grok, Suno etc etc. When the AI coding gets better games will be in the hands of people as well. I will take a guess many on /v/ will be contrarian despite saying commercial games now are trash.
>>739118482you think visuals are more important than playing the game itself lmaoyou don't play games, you look at them>>739118568but you did choose, you chose to play them at shittier performance because you just need to enable the gimmicks that validate all those corpos hiring more jeets to cut costs at your expense
>>739095235People who still buy nvidia shit don't deserve good games.Nvidia has done literally nothing but increase production cost of games for no benefit.
>>739118741You don't know anything about "high end shit"
>>739118792What GPU and monitor do you have?
>>739118810yes, i do faggot, i have a monsgeek fun60 tmr keyboard and a keychron m5 mouse, basically the best shit you can get and it stores its configuration onboard
>>739118792>but you did choose, you chose to play them at shittier performanceoh I see, (You) are that schizo who kept sperging about "if everyone has a 5090, the performance will be worse!" on last thread... No faggot, I'm playing at the best performance available while (You) overdose on schizo copium. Take your meds already
>>739118846what framerate and native resolution do you play on?
>>739118927that's not fucking hardware you tit. I'm talking PCIe cards. USB control devices etc.
>>739118779AI Models are able to offloaded into RAM now. And thats the reason why RAM price skyrocketed
>>739118985I can play at any resolution and will probably get more than double your frame rate when I do
>>739107062if you simply sit playing AAA slop all day then that 5090 is wasted. If however you actually used that card to it's potential in doing AI genning as well as any gaming then it's worth it. Of course if laying down 5k every few years on a new rig is within your budget then it's a non issue and isn't even anything to flaunt anyway because you can't go any higher, people with more money than you can't either. I am more impressed with people on more constrained budgets who still want a 5090 because they are actually going to use it rather than some fag buying one to play AAA slop.
>>739118656Sure you can. Just not heavily modded Cyberpunk or whatever ridiculous game people are using to push their gear to the limits. The overwhelming majority of games, new or old, do not require such ridiculous hardware to run.
>>739119025wut?
>>739119063no you're not.
I hope nGreedia stops using HighFailureRate melty connector.
>>739118779Distilled and quantized models are useless for coding, which is arguably where you get most of the value of running a local model.
>>739119074Basically you dont need high VRAM anymore. 12gb VRAM is the minimum to gen comfortably
>>739119042just admit that you're such goycattle that you're "playing" at 60fps with upscaling because you care more about screenshots than gameplay
>>739095235And they're right. Honestly I want all computer related activities to be exclusive to upper middle class first world people. Games being accessible to third worlders is why online games are insufferable. Cheaters and retards as far as the eye can see.
>>739118992>that's not fucking hardware you tityou retarded or something?
>>739095891Except cuda.
>>739119103We have been hearing about 4K gaming for 10+ years now, and the hardware to make it possible has never materialized. It's almost like developers are working with NVIDIA to ensure that games can never be run at 4K so people keep buying overpriced graphics cards to chase that goal.
>>739119143>you just don't need it lol fucking cope
>>739119159I play at 5100x4700 per eye in VR.
>>739119287I seem to be doing it perfectly fine.
>>739119362yes, seembecause you're upscaling
>>739119398let's get this straight. My PC is more powerful than yours so whatever settings you're playing I can play too only much higher quality.
>>739119335>VRyou mean those easy as shit to run games that haven't been tainted by unreal slop?
>>739119025>able toyes but that is again used to get around not having enough VRAM. Sure LTX2.3 will run on 12gb (ironically it can even run on 8gb albeit at 240p). But that is also how efficiencies are made due to card restraints as even a 5090 still isn't an AI card used in AI genning servers. It is amusing how games are going in the opposite direction, slop AAA that needs higher and higher requirements due to inefficient coding.
>>739119492>VR is easy to run sure thing third worlder
>>739103870Huawei is still only doing AI cards.
>>739119492that's only for Qu*st games
>>739119495>at 240pI gen a 15 second video with rtx 5070 in just 2 minutes at 720p>>739119307Or buy a car priced RTX pro cards that will be obsolote in next year. Be my guest
>>739095235>The change is said to be tied to GDDR7 memory pricing rather than the GPU itselfNvidia wants to increase prices for their board partners due to ram costs ... ram which they supposedly aren't including anymore. How does that work?
>ryzen 5 3600>16gb ddr4>3070 I got for freeI have a job now and still can't justify buying a new pc.
>>739119803Yeh I gen a 720p 20 sec video in about 8 mins wit ha 5060ti 16gb. But I did try my other PC wit ha 2070 which can gen Wan2.2 - again pretty slow and I did get some pretty poor gens at 240p, but I just wanted to see if it could even gen anything. Now iI am not expecting that video gennign is going to reduce the likes of LTX2.3 to be possible on very old cards or low VRAM ones, but it shows how things have moved on from say SD1.5 genning images or Deforum taking ages to spit out "videos".
>>739100981what analogy would you like everyone to use, please tell the class
>>739095235Do you really need one of them to play vidya?
>>739095235>the entire tech industry and its multitude of sub industries keeps suffering because one fucking jew can't make his scam profitableI want this decade to end with Sam Altman's head on a pike in front of the nvidia headquarters
>>7391136086090 is releasing in 2053, will cost 6,000,000,000 dollars and use 3kw of power a minute.
there isnt a single good game that needs more than 2070/3070.
Jensen bought ring 0 access to every major government in the world. The monopoly stays until all the technocrats can no longer fleece consumer electronics. And they have hyperscaling plans to ensure that never happens.You're not voting your way out of this. Whether it's at the polls or with your wallet.
>>739120736>3kw of power a minuteThis made me laugh.
>>739120812You'll need to cover the moon in solar panels to power it and keep it in a refrigeration unit in Antarctica to keep it cooled otherwise it'll set off a fusion reaction.
They won't make a 6 series. They make too much money passing around AI IOUs
>>739120964Anon, but 3kW divided by 60 is already far less than what 5090 consumes.50W vs 600W.
>>739121097Good point. I meant 3KwH a minute.
>>739095235Im considering selling my parts and downgrading. WTF has come out in the last 5 years that's worth having a beefy PC for?
>>739095235fucking hell, I just want to COOM with VR on my Quest 3.how the hell am i going to do that when PC parts are so expensive?
>>739121424>WTF has come out in the last 5 years that's worth having a beefy PC for?Stable diffusion and image to video mainly.
>>739121020For now.Gaymers always win.
>>739100124Didn't gold just hit a 25 year peak like a couple of months ago?Pretty bad time to buy I think.
>>739100124>goldyeah anon your shiny heavy worthless rock will definitely be worth something after SHTF.
>>739119984grimcan't tell if nVIDIA having so much gov contracts or are in trouble
Helium shortages are going to drive prices for a lot of electronics into unheard of levels.
>>739121943thanks orange pedofile
>>739106218DLSS makes 4K require only 1080p performance while looking far better than 1080p and retards still haven't figured this out
>>739121974>No saar AI generation fraymes making game looking better saar!!!No thank you.
>>739121943有難橙色馬鹿
>>739108000>Diana generator consumes entire entertainment budget>can't afford to actually play her gameHey wait are you the one with the dirty diaper fetish?
>>739122079>poorfag brownie calling richfags jeetspathetically ironic.
>>739121974There's a lot of AMD poorfags that will seethe about it.
>>739112673There is no possibility of 6xxx series coming out next year, it would be revenue-negative
>>739097251>henchpersonI'm good
>>739122353>>739122361you're using technologies meant to make it easier to hire jeets
>>739122361Recently tried playing DRG with ultra performance DLSS 4.5 (720p to 2160p) and I must've spent half an hour just swapping back and forth to native trying to find something that looks different. I finally noticed a spot in the space station where reflections don't look as clean. That aside, my PC went from being a space heater to only drawing like 130 watts.AMDjeets will never recover from this humiliation.
>>739122762is this you?
>>739122930>PLEASE SAAR REDEEM DLSS MY BRODER NEEDS MONIES VORKING FOR DA ROCKSAAR
>>739122839Yeah I remember Daniel Owen mentioning it like a year ago. If you're not using (nvidia) AI in this day and age then you're either one of those butthurt trannies or a retard.
>>739095235k
>>739095235When will they finally release AI dedicated hardware, that's only runs AI, so it's much cheaper and free the GPUs for everybody else to buy
>>739095235Man, poorfags just can't catch a breakThey continue to get poorer while us buychads can resell our used goods to them for more money than we got them for.
>>739123112why would they do that and lose dev time/money on a new tech product when the alternative works the same for much cheaper? capitalism, yo!
Brandwarring for GPUs is so funny because it's just autists calling each other poor jeets over which $1,000 card has the better ai upscaling and fake frames.
>>739123112RTX 6000/5000 Pro are those cards. Anyone using less is larping, you just can't get anything useful out of less than 48GB and even 96GB is extremely constraining. A future DGX Spark successor might eventually fill that gap better, right now you need at least 2-4 to get decent performance.What's actually going to happen is gamers will need to wait for AI cards to get a couple manufacturing nodes ahead and then you'll get their sloppy seconds foundry space. There won't be a new consumer GPU generation for at least 3-5 years. A token rebadge generation in extremely short supply at very high prices, maybe.
>>739121424Modding games to work with VR is fun as hell. I've been literally fulfilling my childhood dreams.
>>739095891Why? Nobody will buy it anyway. Other companies can give more performance for less money and everyone will just go "great, some other sucker will probably buy, which means cheaper nvidia for me"
>>739123378see>>739122839It's summer and I don't want my office to feel like India. (it's already got the smell)
I want a 5090 for a 1000$ AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
londonjamboy's working overtime at his shill job again.
>>739095235So this is the power of the so called pc master race... 8x the price of a ps5 for... just a GPU... and not even the rest of the components...
>>739123556Tried Outer Wilds yet? The VR mod is better than a lot of official VR games.
>>739123638Just wait 10 years.
>>739123680Wait and see how much PS5 costs in a year.Wait and see how much PS6 costs.
>>739123680the ps5 gpu loses to a $290 rtx 5050 btw
>>739123760>>739123846Shut the fuck up. Just a 3070 is $500 not taking in count cpu ram and every other component you need
>>739123685yeah it's one of my favorite VR experiences>mfw exploring planets, riding comets into the sun, falling into black holes, and experiencing ego death via the end of the universe in virtual reality
>>739123887a 3070 is out of production you fucking retard
>>739123887I suppose having a $600 dollar brick that has no games is how you show how great a choice you made
>>7391236895090 WILL BE 1000$ BY 2027MARK MY WORDS
>>739123846
>>739123887>>739123680sauce me up man....
>>739097715>Are those still cheapLike one or two hundred dollars cheaper than the 5070ti.
>>739124063not even the 4090 will be 1k by 2027
just buy a used PS5 running linuxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2OsvSc8VeE
>>739095235You really don't need to own a top of the line card to play modern games. A 5000 series card or the AMD equivalent is overkill for most games, and frankly graphics tech isn't advancing fast enough to justify buying them, in fact graphics technology in general is beginning to hit diminishing returns anyway.
>>739121943thanks orange hebephile
>>739124212NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS
>>739096365>static imagesbooooring
>>739124196Kim.chisara on Instagram
>>739097715>5070ti was £600 at one point>Now it's £1000+ I held off buying because I was waiting for the super, which is now cancelled lol.
>>739095235I thought GPU prices were supposed to go down after OpenAI stopped buying more RAM?
>>739124383>>739124489GPU PRICE CRASH 2027SCREENSHOT THIS
>>739124489>GPU Prices>Go downSilly goyim; you should know that once things have gone up, they don't go back down.
>>739123760The PS6 would be $799-850, the Pro revision $999I dont think they can pull any higher than 1k
>>739123378I'm sure you don't care, but we who actually play video games do.
>>739124869how does rayslop and fake frames help you with playing games?
>>739124063KeK, I took a screenshot to mock you later.
I have a 5090 since I wanted to future proof my rig and wanted to try VR. What to use it for?inb4 porn
>>739124986raytracing helps me get more environment cues from the lighting and reflection changesfake frames helps me increase resolution, so I can see better detail from far away on my 8k monitor
>>739125027Porn is the only thing it's good 4.
>>739096005I don't believe you. Post on craigslist and you'll find a chinese "university student" that has full test bed in the back of their car ready to test at your door within hours.
>>739125124both of those lower your real framerate and increase your latencynice try though
>>739124353ty bro! know the name of the fallout cosplay girl too?
>>739125287Latency is only important in competitive games (which always have shit graphics anyway). Provided you're getting at least 60FPS native then the fake frames are just gravy.
>>739122762>xhe thinks capitalist corpos wouldnt be jeetmaxxing regardless of GPU tech. kek I wish I could live in such an absolute state of delusional retardation
>>739124489What they ordered is backordered until 2029 anon
>>739125438no, playing at at least 120fps should be the norm for you with mouse and keyboardand rayslop actually reduces the amount of useful information https://youtu.be/nzen0AvINrI?t=92060fps native will be decreased to 40fps with frame gen
>>739125478nvidia's gimmicks gave them room to do so
>>739125932You do that, I'll play games however the fuck I want.
>>739126035surejust don't pretend like raytracing and framegen actually improve the gameplay in any capacity
>>739126020>actual retardunbelievable kek
>>739126275nigger they're putting fucking frame gen on recommended specs nowwho made this a thing? fucking nvidia, they now have zero fucking reason to clean anything up
>>739126348and this is related to corpos going into thirdies shitholes for cheap labor since the 1870's exactly how... ?
>>739126483it lowers the bar? isn't it obvious?
>>739126521bro you cant possibly be this niggerbrained... (You) seem to assume if 5090 didnt exist, studios would still be optimizing games in developped countries... this is brainless child view of globalization. what the reality would be is your vidya would still be made mostly by thirdies but you would have no costy tech to overcome the retardation of the jeet devs... just like fucking fast food, clothing, whatever made in china shit.
>>739127034you fucking retardif the developers weren't given an option to cut costs on proper lighting by letting raytracing do everything then they would have to make raster workif the developers weren't given an option to lower resolution and then pretty it up with upscaling then they'd have to work on cutting bloat and making it run betterif the developers weren't given the ability to sandbag performance with frame generation then they'd again have to work on the game
>>739127231>"yeah bro, we never had badly optimized games before ray tracing tech!" ok nigger, that one is on me: enough trying to discuss tech with an actual monkey.
>>739127460you'd have less room to fuck shit upwhy are you struggling to understand this?
>>739098595anon...ai is real and its here to stay. Everyone is saying how amazing it is in the work place. There is no bubble.
>>739127231>if the developers weren't given an option to cut costs on proper lighting by letting raytracing do everything then they would have to make raster workwhy act as if every game has forced ray tracing? we know they don't otherwise you wouldn't be able to play games.
>>739095235all the best PC games don't need anything close to a 5090
>>739127590you're right, it's not forced, they just make raster ugly as shit and low effort now
>>739127643>they force you to use ray tracing in order to be lazy and not use normal lighting>ok they don't force ray tracing in order to be lazy,. they make games ugly on purpose fucking lol
>>739127727they force raytracing by making raster so fucking shitty and phoned in that it hurts to look at
>>739127643raster is now a thirdie obsolete tech. Using a horse and carriage instead of a car wouldnt make (You) "make more efforts for the same results", it would just prove that (You) are a thirdie poorfag. what a fucking retard
>>739127962raytracing is literally the manifestation of working harder and not smarter
