>The original is bett-ACK!
>>739098753No one cares for ff shit anymore. Just keep baiting for resident evil
>>739098753FF7R is dei garb
>>739098753NINTENDO
>>739098753The remakes give me motion sickness.Original is still kino without needing muh realism.
>>739098753Good graphics and art direction are soulless
>>739098923You are a drone
>>739098923>
>>739098923motion sickness? theres something wrong with you or your setup.
>>739098753Empty open worlds are a good thing if they came out when I was a child
How much of the actual original story is covered in the ff7r games?
>>739098753The original is better. Videogames are art, and remakes are nothing more than soulless cash grabs.
What does the Lifestream even do?
>>739098923>The remakes give me motion sickness.Turn off DLSS and all post-processing effects like motion blur and depth of field.
>>739098753The original is a complete fucking Game.
>>739099719Depends on how much of the extra content you care aboutIt's simulataneously the afterlife, the wheel of reincarnation and the actual total soul energy of everything on the planetThey were NOT being subtle about the "Shinra is killing the planet" accusations, that's literally what they are doing
>>739098753>FF7 on PS1 was 2.1 GB>FF7R Part 1 and 2 are over 200gb>FF7R still missing Part 3So is the Remake a 100 times better so far?
>>739099896>>FF7 on PS1 was 2.1 GBNo way it was that big. PS1 disks could only hold 400-500MB.
>>739099861>They were NOT being subtle about the "Shinra is killing the planet" accusations, that's literally what they are doingWhy would the planet or its life be dependent on soul energy? I only ask because there are lifeforms alien to Gaia in the game, so life itself conceptually is clearly not necessarily tied to the ironically titled Lifestream. That or there are other Lifestreams, but the implication there would be you can effectively detach yourself from your "host" stream, so to speak.>tl;drIf you remove the Lifestream from the equation, what really happens?
>>739098753nintendo switch 2 vs ps6
>>739099981It had 3 disks man. Have you never played a game where you swapped disks before?
>>739100286Do the math anon....
>>739098753exclusively for the case of ff7, the remakes hold no appeal unless you played the originals first.
>>739100340Yes? What about it? Each disk had separate FMVs. In reality its actual size was closer to like 1.8
>>739098753The original ff7 is fucking garbage
>>739098753One is a game that you can enjoy and explore, the other is a cinematic corridor of non-gameplay meant to be streamed on twitch
>>739100207If you remove Lifestream then Shrina would never exist from harvesting it's energy. There would be no SOLDIERS or Cloud or AVALANCHE. You're basically writing a different story.
>>739098753We already had this thread.
>>739100340Apparently you don't know how to multiply 3 and 400.
>>739100513That's not... exactly what I meant. I mean in-universe, what would hypothetically happen if Shinra just kept harvesting it at a net loss, until it dissipated?
so tru it's why the movies are always better than those old crusty books!
>>739098753
>>739099896>FF7 on PS1 was 2.1 GBPSX discs were CDs with about 650MB of storage per discthe full game less the FMVs is on each discthe full game with FMVs could fit on 2 discs, but it was released as 3 discs for marketing reasonsin other words, the game was a little over 1 GBalso, the FMVs are encoded like dogcrap. modern encodings could get it down to everything on 1 CD
I love both but I love the original more and not because I was a kid when I played it or anything but because Nomura has fucked with the story too much because he's a retard. also turn based is more fun than real time action
>>739099659Aerith is stabarooni
>>739098753I love chocobos :)
>>739098923How the fuck do niggas get motion sickness while playing fucking videogames, I don't get it
>>739098753left.left.left>>739100708top.
>>739099896Cloud just got mogged by a nigger
>>739100780
>>739100672That's literally what AVALANCHE are trying to prevent. You sap the world of its life essence and the world dies. It's the literal life essence in FF7. Like water and life, the lifestream is essential to the planet. You see what happens hundreds of years into the future after the world dries up of Lifestream with Red XIII. It's a desolate barren planet. Did you even play the game?
>>739098923You’re a senior citizen. (And that’s not OK)
>so we added more than 800 black npcs to appeal to the ishowspeed crowd, FREE PALESTINE TRANS RIGHTS
>>739100932>800 black npcsthe only black person in ff7 is barret
>>739100207>That or there are other LifestreamsProbably this. Jenova is implied to be like a virus going from planet to planet. It absorbs that planet's lifestream and then explodes the planet moving on as infected rocks that then crash into other planets.And Rebirth changed the Gi to be extraterrestrials that can't die because their spiritual energy can't join Gaia's lifestream. Essentially this implies that interplanetary travel in the Final Fantasy VII universe is impossible. Unless you pull a Final Fantasy IX and somehow overrun another planets lifestream with yours.
>this made boomers go: "ain't no way graphics can get better than this!"
>>739098753SoulSoulless
>>739101101the intro scene zooming out to see midgar and then zooming into the train arriving and transitioning to giving the player control was mind blowing at the time, and is still kino of the highest order
>>739101101graphics were better on other platforms and other games released at the time, STUPID
>>7390987532 hours to reach70 hours to reach
>>739100672play the fucking game or learn to read. Its all explained the first time you visit Cosmo Canyon
>>739099519>>739099576>>739099606>>739100782>>739100874https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake/comments/1amakzb/demo_and_motion_sickness/https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake/comments/1htx84z/motion_sickness_help_rebirth/https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasy/comments/g7dafn/ff7r_and_motion_sickness/Not just me.
>>739100864Did you? The post-credits scene with Nanaki is the world teeming with life where it was previously barren (Midgar Wasteland)That being said, any biome can become a wasteland, either naturally via thermodynamics or extraction of any resource, be it coal or oil. Cosmo Canyon is arguably "desolate" and "barren" and yet there's no reactor there. So what exactly is it that the Lifestream contributes to the cycle?
>>739098753>completely erases the intent of the world map by making it an open world checklist yes, the original is better
>>739101429He literally runs from the outside of dead world to the one world that harvested to the shit out of Lifestream. Of course it's still thriving after everyone died. Like it said, it's the Lifestream. Midgard is flourished in it and everything else did. I bet the rest of the world is dead too.
>>739098753Why yes, having the world's scale conveyed via an overworld so the game could then focus on actual level design for the areas is in fact better than thirty hours of ubislop """""""exploration""""""And that's coming from someone who doesn't like the original. Once upon a time games had this thing called level design rather than bloated open areas with landmarks pretending to be levels because costs have increased so much devs can't even fucking afford to make a full length game any more.
>>739099659FF7 disc 1 but its 105 hours long instead of like 18
>>739101053Not sure impossible is the word I'd describe, I mean it's theorized in the game. Of course I say this with a bias as someone who wished they would've just made a sequel about the Shinra Space Program being rebooted and Cid literally traveling the universe, instead of this hackneyed remake, but oh well.I like the idea that Jenova effectively IS a Lifestream, and is functionally no different from Gaia's. I mean the reality is that we (the audience) have no real idea what Jenova's nature is, only very loosely what it was hypothesized to be by the people it was preying upon, but I mean, that's sort of the plot of Dirge of Cerberus.The Lifestream intends to fuck off and go to another planet, but I mean, what if there's another Lifestream or life in general there? Is it going to eat them lmao?
>>739101420Lurk for two years before posting.
imagine if they had only done the graphics
>>739101576brevity is the soul of wit (and, in general, art)
>>739101101It always feels weird if you see the graphic jumps on an old console like ps1 and than compare current games to 10 year old games.
>>739101608I don't care about your opinion pretend oldfag.You never browsed reddit before?
>>739101379You're taking everything at face value. Bugenhagen doesn't actually have all of the answers, he merely describes what he perceives, and in general maintains a very neutral, scientific stance on the matter despite his claims to "hear" the planet.But if we do just assume all word is truth, then it's worth mentioning that he also claims that the planet will die eventually, regardless of Shinra. Ergo the Lifestream is not a progenitor of life.Maybe you should try paying attention next time. Not much point in being able to read if you're unwilling.
>>739101637what mental defect in the human species causes this mode of thought?i think the OG is a great lookinh game.
>>739098753I never played FF7 despite being the age for it, just didn't know about jrpgs besides pokemon. I thought the remakes were pretty good, except for FUCKING ANNOYING CHUDLEY. STFU GIRL CHUDLEY, STOP TALKING OVER THE MUSIC, STOP REPEATING THE SAME SHIT EVERYTIME I FIGHT THIS BOSS. HOW DID THEY THINK ANYONE WOULD LIKE THIS?
>>739101528Dude I speak Spanish pretty fluentally and can translate other languages if you want to post in your native tongue because holy fuck I can't understand a word you're typing and I'm not sure you really know what I'm saying either.
>>739099896AYO NIGGA IS DIS DAT FAINAL FANTUHSY SEVEN? SSSSHEEEEEEITTTT LEMME GET IN ON SOMMA DAT SHIT, BITCHES BE GETTIN ON MY BIG AHH SWORD N EVERYTHIN NIGGA
>>739101128Soulless seems to be the superior option.
>>739101154tendies still think fmv tech and cd-quality music didn't do anything for gaming lmao
>>739101990>cd-quality musicthe psx could play redbook audio, however ff7's music is all wavetable synthesis MIDI.the psx sound system was very similar in function to the snes sound system except with more voices and memory.
>>739101974t. No soul
>>739102113yes but I'm just reciting their claims about the console itself
>>739101420go back
>>739100782Eyes are weird. Sonic 3D Blast would give me headaches as a kid but other games with the same perspective wouldn't.
>>739098854Is there a mod to remove all the black people besides barret? He can stay.
It just doesn't FEEL right
>>739098753>7R main cast running around in retarded JRPG clothes while the rest of the game world is filled with NPCs wearing default unity store regular clothesGame is irredeemable dog shit just for this, don't even need to list the myriad of other flaws.
>>739098753I got memed into buying the PC version of this game and what a stuttering and frame-pacing mess... Truly a godawful port.
I wish the remake looked like those recent FF7 figures. Big chunky low poly look is really nice. I still like playing the original but the low resolution of the bgs with the sharp models looks really bad. I end up just making the whole game run in low resolution so stuff matches better.
>>739102623This guy has a point. Maybe FF7 IS retarded. How did we ever like this game for the past 30 years, sisters?
>>739098753The original is one game instead of three and has an overworld instead of open field segments.We need to bring back overworlds. Connecting more detailed dungeons via an overworld was genius and we innovated backwards when we abandoned them.
>>739102947you can be retarded if you're cool, those are the rules
Sephiroth Sephiroth Sephiroth Sephiroth Sephiroth!!!!
>FF7 = original for it's time and still fun today>FF7R = literal copy and pasted landscapes from some graphics pack that SquareEnix leases
>>739102947Stupid nigger, learn to read.
>>739103385Tongue my retarded JRPG anus faglord
>>739098753I was a big fan of the original back in the day. I considered buying remake, but I'm glad I watched a playthrough on yt first. It doesn't even look good enough to bother pirating.
>>739102409how fucking hard is this for them to understandunless square enix has a USA division or something that is forcing this dogshit on them, I have a hard time believing that the japs really wanted to put a a starfield level of blacks into final fantasy
>>739103793No one wanted Tifas censored design either but they did it anyway.
>>739103020Making an overworld means filling up said over world with enough content to not feel empty. And that's too much for modern gaming.You will get open world games that is 90% empty plots of asset flip environments, and you will love it.
>>739098753Funny how even in this cherrypicked comparison you can see how shit the camera is in new game. Boy i love retarded bird taking up all of the screen space when im trying to move around. And no you can't "just move it" it will snap back to this backshot angle.
Because the original was a world map, not an actual representation, we get a sense of scale that is missing.It doesn't matter how much stuff is in a small world if it still feels small.This is even more damaging in FF7 than it would otherwise be because the world, the planet, as "a character" within the setting is a massive part of its lore and story.
>>739098753Older games were more dependant on the players' creativity, not too different from how books require the reader to imagine things even though they sometimes have art between chapters.You are meant to imagine and extrapolate. Visualize the those landscapes and the environments.The new versions show as much as possible, leaving comparatively very little for the player to exercise creativity.Both have their own adventages and disadvantages, but with most games leaning more on graphics than letting players imagine things, I think it poses a possible issue with younger populations having worse and worse imagination over the generations.
Overworlds > open worlds
>>739103793anon, someone working on DQ literally said it bwas forced on their shit by westoid kikes, the interview even got taken down
>>739100357Plus if you actually understood the story and themes, you'd HATE the remake (and sequels).
>>739098753-er
>>739098753>celebrating the absolute bloating that is game sizes for longer meandering in an rpg.the bar for human intelligence on /v/ is in the death valley right now.
>>739098753final fantasy is one of the gayest franchies i've ever wasted 20 minutes playing
>>739101101No. What blew our mind was that it seamlessly (on the screens at the time) moved from a really high definition, movie-quality, FMV right into gameplay.
>>739099719It streams life
>>739104693I think certain genres actually benefit from the reduced fidelity that simpler graphics allow for.Platformers are one (easy to tell what a platform is when it's floating blocks), and another is JRPGs, or RPGs in general, where you'd never be able to actually populate a world to feel both "real" and actually be fun to traverse.I suppose the middle ground could be something like Morrowind, where you're entirely based within a small part of a world that is populated, but the size of the world outside is just hinted at by comparison.
>>739099719There's literally a cut scene that explains it.
>>739104816damn
>>739101101Meanwhile PC gamers.>Those models look like shit.
Every biome should be a little more post-apocalyptic, Is a dying world after all
>>739105318This is an issue. The brown patches aren't just scrubland. It's fucking barren. Nothing is growing there. It's just dirt and rocks.
>>739102242stfugo back to xitter
>>739098753>original punishes you for explorationhow is this good gamedesign?
>>739099719It shows you the live reaction of a balding man from Texas in the corner.
>>739098753The original is better though, next to nothing in the remakes has any impact without replying on the player having prior experience with the originals. They ruined the OST as well by making it faggy orchestral shit for the most part. Visually they did a good job with most of the environments but nothing about the game feels special at all compared to the original, it just depresses me that we actually got FF7 completely redone in modern graphics and they just took a huge shit on it. Three times.
>>739107467>They ruined the OST as well by making it faggy orchestral shit for the most part.If I was going to do the soundtrack I'd make it a mix of traditional folk instruments, almost world music, and synth that is almost aggressively course. Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXp1C6Byd2E
> Muh graphicsLol.Squaresoft is incapable of making good games, all the talent left over 2 decades ago. Even when they remake an old game, they add new stuff that is just shit.
>>739098753OG Tales of Symphonia is the best one. Unlocked framerate n' stuff.
>>739101902that's blackwashing, anon.
>>739098753I love overworlds, so yes.
>>739098753Left looks soullessRight looks like soulless AIslop
>>739101789nu-FF7 is just weird, pic related.
good FF6 remake when
>>739109234not possible
>>739109560why
>>739109738look at the state of final fantasy. they'll turn it into action slop
>>739099606Yeah, the engine is of temporal slop graphics. :(
I like the ff remake visually but the boss battles take too long, action game bosses shouldn't go for so long especially when the combat is so spammy
>>739108509it's called rent free, actually
>>739099896that's was a missed opportunity to do something funnyhttps://youtu.be/r6gHveDLq5Y
today, i will remind themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9yYGQp2hC4
>>739098753Soul vs soulless, unironically. Right just looks like UE4/5 slop. Where is the original game's unique and atmospheric art direction? We have the technology now to make the in-game graphics look like they were imagined in concept art, sketches and cinematics, yet these lazy, incompetent squeenix hacks just shat out UEslop that looks absolutely nothing like the original game world.
>>739098753Reminder that the remakes are a bollywood moviehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of2aNf-IOmY
It IS better, yes
>>739098753I'm excited for Vincent and Cid. And I want to see where they take the story. But you have to see remake as a separate thing to enjoy it honestly. More like a sequel.Also want to know if Aerith will finally be saved.
>>739110551Also, who the hell decided that all video game characters are supposed to look photorealistic now? Why couldn't FF7R characters look like Nomura's original designs or at least similar to them? It's like there's something unspoken agreement among devs that characters in video games can only look photorealistic or anime now.
>>739102750Holy shit that looks great. Of course Square wouldnt dare do this, they have to play it safe and appeal to everyone which unironically leads fo appealing to noone.
>>739098753>"Who gives a shit about the story as long as the graphics is good!"
>>739104594>Making an overworld means filling up said over world with enough content to not feel empty.Xenoblade Chronicles X managed to do it.I don't see why SE can't
>>739098753Do you not know what artstyle is?
>>7391105513d renders from the 90s give me such a strong sense of uncanny valley
>>739113272No AC/DoC Barret.
>>739098753fuck off with this baiting shit
>>739110297Greetings my fellow n'wah. My dark-skinned "brotha from anotha motha", as one might say.
>The original is bett-
Both are great in diffraction ways.Currently the OG is superior, but maybe the third game will bring retrilogy closer.I wonder how playing the three games back to back will feel.
>>739099896I'm so glad I am old enough to have completely avoided this rape.
>>739099896>Im solo>im han solo>im han solo>im han solowho greenlights this shit?
>>739101053>Essentially this implies that interplanetary travel in the Final Fantasy VII universe is impossibleDidn't "ShinRa" get founded by "Shinra" who planet-traveled from FFX to FF7?
the discord troons have gotten their shitposting schedule for the week
>>739113272I think it's funny how they tried to make the remake more woke yet made the quintessential black character look less black somehow
>>739101794Kid, I can tell you didn't play Final Fantasy 7.I'll try to keep it simple:>Life is defined as "having soul.">If you have a soul, you are alive.>If you do not have a soul, you are dead.>Lifestream is defined as "limited resource for the Planet.">Burn up the Planet's limited resource, the Planet dies, and all life on the Planet.FF7's Planet doesn't run on Earth's thermodynamic ecosystem. It runs on a Lifestream ecosystem.Btw, that "final scene" you mention shows that summoning "HOLY" has cast judgment on all living creatures, which prevented "METEOR" and has halted "mako" production; Planet is recovering and all things harming it are dead.
>>739098753>LeftTravelling across an entire continent. Genuine globetrotting. >RightExploring small regions. It fucking sucks. Not scale adjusting the world is one of the worst decisions of the entire remake saga. Why the fuck would they not? Why do they want the world to be so much smaller?
>>739098753left, soulright, soulless
>>739101101No, I'd claim the John Williams score of the FMV leading up to this (we call that, in English, an "introduction") is what blows people's minds in 1997.>On a Compact Disc!?>From a VIDEO GAME!?>Technology is crazy!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CORYpK6_W8
>>739100782That's what I always wondered too until I played Dead Island on my PC. The retarded camera sway + head bobbing gave me a headache 30' in whenever I booted it up.
>>739103793They take advantage of normies' tolerance for blacks. And don't forget there is a staggering amount of browns in the west, who may feel adjacent to anyone who has a certain level of melanin. They also count on customer goodwill to give them enough wiggleroom to censor stuff.
>>739101696Your math teacher doesn't actually have all the answers for mathematics, he merely describes what he perceives and shares what he was taught. You're taking all that "math" shit at face value.But if we do just assume all math is truth, then it's worth mentioning that Earth will eventually die, therefore Math isn't the progenitor of solving equations. Maybe you should try paying attention next time.
>>739102151The console itself can literally play your Tim McGraw country music cd at the exact same quality as any CD-player. You're making a false claim about a Playstation's functions.What you're "reciting" is the fact that most video games for the playstation (which are burned to CDs) use MIDI files for its sound storage because it saves FAR more storage space than some WAV or WMA file.
>>739110939>believableSeems to be the term the "modern" video game audience swears by.Frankly, it wasn't too different in the console wars of the 90s, either.>I'M NOT PLAYING SOME CARTOON SCHLOP NINTENDO MAKES!>I'M AN ADULT WHO PLAYS """"REAL"""" GAMES!>YOU BETTER GIMME REALISTIC GRAPHICS, FOOL! OTHERWISE I AIN'T BUYIN' YOUR GAME!>...but Sony has cartoon games, t->MAN SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Why does SE think you can't do proper overworlds anymore?
>>739110939>Also, who the hell decided that all video game characters are supposed to look photorealistic now?People back in the day.It is the reason why FFVIII looks the way it looks.
>>739100807At Goon Junction
>>739121012SE has been doing it for more than 30 years. Look at Atlus, they dont do overworlds anymore as well.Exp33 did it because Sandfall is new, its their first game. Eventually they get tired of it and will do something different.
OGall the shit they did with sephiroth is so fucking stupid it's bafflingoriginal>mysterious>you don't see him until the flashback>built up for such a long fucking time>he was just some weirdo combat genius who didn't really care about cloud until he got his shit stomped by himremake>literally the one winged angel motif in the fucking intro opening>black feathers everywhere>can NOT stop showing up>can NOT stop being gay for cloud>can NOT stop fucking talking>gets defeated before the party leaves midgar>stupid fucking fakeout kill aerith he missed oH NOOO HE DIDN'T MISS AFTER ALL LOL! time to be mysterious and glitch around!What the fuck were they thinking
>>739099861>literally
>>739121087>we got tired of it>so now we're doing something worse! Cool, cool!
>>739102409for me it's the gay and lesbian couples everywhere
>>739121185You are not a creator so you cant relate, you just consume and consume.
>>739098753>is betterfix'd. and yes, without irony the original is better.
>>739121126The remakes are actually a sequel series.
>>739098753Soul:Soulless dumb zoomer
>>739121330Yes and it's fucking retarded. That isn't interesting. For a sequel series it's still doing every fucking plot point of the originals but worse. Being a sequel doesn't justify the horrible pacing and escalation.
>>739098753Unironically it is. I started this game yesterday. Why is it so fucking ugly? Where's the colors and why is shit blurry? I'm playing on my PS5.Also why are they doing everything they can to never focus the camera on Tifa in cutscenes? Is this some tranny jealously thing? I'm trying to snap good pics of her so I can goon later but she's just always slightly out of frame.
It's kind of retarded that they made Omega in dirge of Cerberus when that's basically exactly what Sephiroth's and Jenova's MO was. What is the implication here? Is Jenova just another planet's Omega? Is Omega what sephiroth was trying to turn into? It's so strange. It's so strange.
>>739121330Too many people (throughout all time and history) just cannot understand different perspectives. And that misunderstanding almost always manifests as homicidal anger.There are people, today, who cannot understand that Star Wars: A New Hope is a better film than Star Wars: The Force Awakens.>How can it be "better?" I don't understand.>"The Force Awakens" has humans acting exactly the same as in the 70s, but it has BETTER CGI! It's undeniable!>That --inherently-- proves anyone thinking "A New Hope" is "better" to be flat-out-wrong!>This is starting to make me angry!!!
>>739121576Also >Photo Mode>It only ever focuses on CloudLiterally what is the FUCKING point? They literally only pulled this shit just so people oogle the characters THEY designed
>>739098753From what I heard its not even "original vs remake" right?The "remake" has a completely different story pretty much.
>>739121743>There are people, today, who cannot understand that Star Wars: A New Hope is a better film than Star Wars: The Force Awakens.This is such an asspull of an argument, ive never seen anyone claim thisBasically because the force awakens is a retread of the original movie and it was criticized for it
>>739121802No it doesn't. The remake is doing the same story just adding a bunch of shit and making it worse.
>>739121939I have to play it at some point just for this, I cant wrap my head around how that even works.I remember playing FF7 when I was a kid and the whole city part was like 6 hours so I have no idea how they made that into a game thats longer than the entire of ff7 on the ps1
>>739122003>how they made that into a game thats longer than the entire of ff7 on the ps1By pandering to gamers that have a duplicitous motto of>1. I want to wander aimlessly and speak to lesbian NPCs for 50 hoursand>2. GIVE ME A "x 4" SPEED-UP FUNCTION FOR JRPGs, THIS IS TAKING TOO LONG!
>>739122003By adding a bunch of side quests and shit and making sephiroth pop up every hour on the hour.
>>739122003Inserting movies to watch.Gamers don't game, today. They watch movies.>It's not a movie?>wtf?>You expect me to sit here and play this shit in order to get all the experience I paid for?>Man, fuuuuuuuuuuck this game. It's bad bad bad.
>>739113272You're getting "anime but real" forever and you're going to like it
>>739098753>Left is a picture of a final fantasy game that has not aged well with the times but was considered peak at one point in time>Right is just a picture of a copy/pasted dime-a-dozen generic looking fantasy game with ff characters in it and it will be forgotten about right after the devs stop milking itt. Someone whose never played ff7
>>739099896How come only the main characters look like my Japanese animes?
>>739100357I didn’t play the original and I like the remake seriesFun combat and good musicI wish there was less time wasting shit like wall shimmying and pushing mako vacuums around, as it hurts replays, but the combat is good enough that I don’t mind it too muchPlaying OG VII now and I’ve been enjoying it tooI like how Cloud isn’t having schizo meltdowns every other scene in the original, gives it more impact when it *does* happen, like the Fuck Room scene genuinely caught me off guardRight now I’d say the Remakes have better gameplay aside from the dumb forced slow shit but the OG has better story pacing and some of the characters are written better (less really is more sometimes)They have very different atmospheres and vibes so I don’t really have a preference there, they’re just different with OG being more melancholic and somber while Remakes are more bombastic and energetic
>>739098923>The remakes give me motion sickness.*taps sign*
>>739122732True and insightfulpilled.
>>739122912Ah, yes, interesting theory.However! people have been complaining about this ever since 3D graphics became a thing. Look at old discussions about Descent for on example.
ff7 remake was already bloated with all the side content and then they go and make the sequel open worldi feel fatigued just thinking about the game
>>739122912Those are just bitchass millennials. I am 42 and I enjoy zoomer gameplay and older gameplay.
>>739098753The original is better, but both are good.I'll get to save Aerith in part 3 :3
>>739121012They want everything to reach a certain “standard” of presentation quality. FFVII sent the series down this path where they want everything to feel cinematic and immersive, and starting with FFX they decided a traditional abstracted overworld would take away from that. So you get FFXII where the world is decently large but you can’t airship around in the traditional way because it’s not built for that, FFXIII where they didn’t even try to make the whole world interconnected, FFXV where you can technically airship but the “world” is mostly a single continent, and FFXVI where they basically just made a series of FFXIV zones. Remake Part 3 might be the first game where they actually try to do an overworld that’s explorable like the old games while still having the cinematic immersion of the newer ones.
>>739123054yeah because their eyes weren't used to them and they still aren't.try being born in the 21st century next time.
>MOTION SICKNESS GOODIs this board getting more retarded every day.
>>739098753I'll play the Remake when they finally add Ruby & Emerald weapons.
>>739123791Ah, so people were playing games like Doom THEN but not fast games NOW because they're OLD but they weren't playing games like Doom THEN because they were OLD then. So they were always old even though they were young and the entire argument was that they were young then and not old like they are now. But also evolution just jumped forward 100,000 years in a generation because that's how that works.
>>739122912>sad post with no (you)s>still screencaps it like a sore loserKWAB, here have a pity (you)
>>739098753>muh graphics.retard
>>739098753og is better by miles
>>739101101>he missed how peak this was at the time.must be sad to be born at the cod/fortnite era.
>>739124049>people complained about 3d then because they were used to 2d>those same people complain about modern graphics because they're old nowno inconsistency
>>739122912Not false. It's incredible how fast we become lazy
>>739123731>Remake Part 3 might be the first game where they actually try to do an overworld that’s explorable like the old games while still having the cinematic immersion of the newer onesBut the world will be super fucking tiny. Like. As a unit of measurement, I wonder how many "Clouds" the world would be from end to the other.
>>739125332Millennials spent most of their lives playing 3D consoles. The average Millennial was 6 when the PlayStation 1 released.
>>739125503>spent most of their lives playing 3D consolesyeah with graphics like >>739101101
>>739125565No. The average Millennial (born 1989) was 8 when FF7 released. They didn't hit their stride until the PS2 with games like GTA3.
>>739098753yeah, if we were to cherry-pick, they did a great job with some locations but also completely fucked the vibe and look of many really important scenes and locations. even the locations that do look nice are often ruined by bad direction, either the song doesn't fit the mood or there are too many ugly npc's or something like that. how did they even manage to ruin the most impactful part of the game, the part where aerith dies? if you're didn't play OG you played the vastly inferior version.
>>739098753>Hey you know what people really loved about FFVII? All the areas between the story content. We should totally expand these out with repetitive side quests and Chadley
>>739098923>motion sicknessweak genes
>>739098753>stylized, sense of wonder, much like an impressionist painting>a "crazier" but shittier looking version of real lifetough choice
>>739100782I'm guessing they're staring like 2 inches away from their monitor
>>739100541there are way too many ghosts on the right pizza
>>739098753The only unforgivable change is Chadley.Why did they do it? I'm asking seriously, why is he necessary instead of a task list assigning missions? It's not like he impacts the story in any way.
>>739107467>Visually they did a good job with most of the environments but nothing about the game feels special at all compared to the originalthis. visually it could as well be another assasin's creed or some soulless open world game from sony. most locations look authentic if compared to original art but they don't feel right, they don't feel unique or distinct like witcher 3 or elden ring/bloodborne, and the whole vibe is off. but I have this problem with most western games, especially slop made in unreal engine. maybe anime style would fit better than chasing realism.
>I define *topic* THIS WAY!>No! I define *topic* THIS WAY! You're wrong!>No! You're wrong!>NO! You're wrong!>NO! YOU'RE wrong!>NO! YOU'RE WRONG!>NO!>NO!Humans never change~
>>739126932Wtf is this real!??
>>73912306542 is still squarely millennial. I don't get why millennials always pretend they're not millennials
>>739126165I dunno man but as soon as I learned there was an option to turn off his dialogue I got that mfer turned off and skip all his cutscenes
Why the fuck poor midgarians dont leave that shitty city and run to the countryside?
>>739126165I heard japan likes him, but I don't know if it's true.
>>739131071The same reason you don't just move into the forest just because you hate your neighbors.
>>739098753You zoomers can say what you will but I love that old Playstation era Final Fantasy overworld. It almost gives me that childhood like fantasy where I would play with my toys (something I guess you zoomers didn't care for growing up) and I would maybe have a playset or something like that. So the environment is fairly small for the toy but the toy itself is bigger. Then of course I would use my childhood imagination (another thing you zoomers seem to lack) and I would have (get ready for it) fun.
>>739098753Left = far more soul
>>739133058/thread
>>739098753I still want to know who decided that Final Fantasy VII should be remade with plot elements from Final Fantasy VIII. Merging timelines and destiny ghosts and all that shit feels more at home in Squall's game than Cloud's.
Does anyone really believe part 3 will be the end? My bet is ffvii will continue to be milked and we'll never get a real ending, just like how compilation went nowhere.
If I get to save Aerith in part 3 I will place remake as high as OG in my list.
>>739098753every time they revisit the soundtrack it becomes the most overcooked pile of generic dogshit. a student orchestra making their own arrangement of one winged angel mogs both ac and remake.
>>739133853>Does anyone really believe part 3 will be the end?Yeah>My bet is ffvii will continue to be milked and we'll never get a real endingI mean, the world of FFVII wil probably get new games, but cloud/sephiroth story ending is part 3.
>>739132092I've seen people post pic related a few times on here but its a good example of what I mean. I actually had this growing up as well as the pirate ship. My toys would be limited to whatever space I was playing with them in but as I said a lot was left to my imagination. Modern games have a severe lack of this. Remakes seem to especially ruin this aspect if a game is old enough. Spyro Reignited definitely comes to mind with its inferior skyboxes.
>>739133853It won't get an ending, they'll keep making ffvii stuff indefinitely. I doubt anyone would question that.
>>739133978>we won't get any more cloud or sephiroth after part 3Hmm I wonder if that's true
>>739133973https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk8Vnt-sTY8&t=shit taste
>>739133978>cloud/sephiroth story ending is part 3I wish. The plot of VII might end in Part 3, but Square is just going to rehash Cloud and Sephiroth's 50 Shades of Repetitive Bullshit forever to keep fleecing people who saw a thing they recognized and clapped.
>>739134096I have a good way to wriggle out of this. Their story in 7R will end. But there will be new and different stories with them.
>>739133853It'll be the end of this shitty remake. Square knows they blundered the remake with no way they can afford to keep wasting time and money on this shitty remake of a PS1 game.
>>739134149>with them.doubtful.
>>739134149Impressive. You certainly do have a talent for making sure SE don't get criticized no matter what they decide to do.
>>739134202It's important work. If I didn't do it nobody else would.
>>739134189So no more Cloud and Sephiroth after part 3. At all. You're confident about that?
>>739134293Very.Then again if it happens I'll be the first to be excited. I bet once I find out the reason for it, it will be interesting.
>>739134097generic and overcooked
>>739134345And if others don't feel the same way as you?
>>739134349Nah, its hype and entertaining
>>739134370Then they will be wrong. And I'll tear into their shitty opinion, simple as.
>>739104594>>739113523you fags are talking about OPEN worlds.Overworlds are things like in the original FF7, Tales of the Abyss and Vesperia.An OVERWORLD is meant to convey greater distance without making the player run through empty space like in an open world and in FF7R.An overworld allows the player to see the grand scale of the adventure without wasting his time traversing emptiness, and without making the developer waste time filling up an open world.The over world connects to many much larger, intricate and to-scale areas, such as towns, dungeons, forests, etc.Please play games with overworlds to see what I mean. It's a forgotten god tier technique.
>>739134293>So no more Cloud and Sephiroth after part 3. At all. You're confident about that?Depends, what do you mean by no cloud and sephiroth after part 3, exactly?Nothing at all? no cameos, no presence in fornite, Cloud is removed from KH, CLoud is removed from smash, no mention or merchandising of cloud? Or do you just mean "No game related to cloud and sephiroth again"?
>>739123731It wouldn't be explorable like the old games because it would be full of stupid bullshitThe last games they made with FF adjacent overworlds were Bravely and they fucked that series up hardcore twice
>>739098923Fucking zoomers every-time. Reminds me when my cousin’s kid had to return his 3DS because the 3D gave him migraines. Pussy generation.
>>739098753>I'm too much of a brainlet for basic abstractions
>>739134383not mutually exclusive. there are people who find forspoken entertaining.
>>739134583>hitler used to paint, therefore painters are nazis
>>739134617you don't know how analogies work.
>>739134648I do, you dont.>there are people who find forspoken entertaining.what does forespoken have to do with anything?entertaining means it cant be overcooked or generic. Generic is not entertaining. Overcooked is not entertaining.
>>739120073>And don't forget there is a staggering amount of browns in the west, who may feel adjacent to anyone who has a certain level of melanin.Latinos constantly say nigga, this causes friction with blacks who insist that only they are allowed to say nigga
>>739134485BG3 suffers alot from trying to make the game big chunks of map instead of the BG1 and 2 style of having the world map and hours of travel between each zone on that map. it's more seamless, but makes the region feel small because there's very little implied travel time between sections. the new MH maps face the same problems, in MH zone transitions would imply travel time between zones, so you could have large sweeping vistas per room because that space did not need to be represented as one whole map.
>>739134497Will Cloud and/or Sephiroth ever play a role in any canon future FFVII sequel or prequel or spinoff released by SE, post part 3
>>739100782Iv only ever gotten motion sickness from VR and that was from using the joycons to turn and not physically turning.
>>739134725you find generic and overcooked music entertaining.
>>739121126>Sephiroth in the original is something of a tragic character>his whole deal is being a mirror of Cloud>much like Cloud, he has to face an uncomfortable truth: that being that he might be an experiment of Hojo's>Cloud confronts his uncomfortable truth, being unfit for SOLDIER, head-on and tries to make the best of it>Sephiroth comes up with fanfiction about being an Ancient>when that doesn't work, he comes up with more fanfiction about being Jenova's special son who is destined to rule the universe>Cloud is at his most vulnerable to Sephiroth's manipulation when he, like Sephiroth, believes some bullshit fanfiction that isn't real>overcomes and defeats Sephiroth once he learns to face reality>but because of Advent Children, all future interactions between them are devoid of this dichotomy and just Sephiroth say gay shit to Cloud about how he wants Cloud to be his puppy or some shitIt's so tiresome.
>>739134847False premise that it is overcooked and generic.
>>739099719pogroms
>>739134834>or spinoff released by SEProbably, in dissidia games.The rest, no.
>>739099719>turns into Materia>protects the Planet when called by Holy>gets sucked up by Omega Weapon when it's time to move to a new Planet>turns Cloud into a retard
>>739134985No more Cloud or Sephiroth... wow. Well, I hope that if you turn out to be wrong, you still find a way to enjoy it. I think the chances of that are quite high.
>>739135218>No more Cloud or SephirothDont worry, you will see them in all the scenarios i said here >>739134497Cameos, KH, smash, etc.Just no more official videogames of them.
>>739134834of they will, they're the main characters of the eventual Advent Children remake into a game after all. You think this shit is ending with part 3? We have the rest of the compilation to cover now
>>739135297>no more official videogames of themSure. But if they do turn up in an "official" game I'm sure you'll find a way to appreciate SE's decision to use them again.
>>739105009Kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6huxtRFCYM
>>739098753FF7 always overrated. It's only praised because it was the first 3D FF. It aged like dogshit.
Aerith is absolutely gorgeous and perfect in both.
>>739098753Ive never played a FF game besides 13 and Id rather play left than the all style no substance slop seen on the right.
>>739099896Cloud should rape that negress no cap
>>739099896Why does it feel like every location in this game is trying to be a theme park attraction?
>>739141885it's more like each location is trying to be an episode of an anime, which is the basic format of JRPGs for the most part. Arrive at location -> people usually need help -> do a dungeon crawl/fight a boss -> hooray you did it, here's a clue that leads towards the overarching goal, time to move oneach town being an episode of the overall journey across the world. it just feels extra tacky in 7R2 because of the production value and extended stays in luxury zones, like the coastal town and golden saucer being back to back.
>>739102947The party fit in a world of punks in the original, that's how.
>Rewatch opening PS1 cutscene>Still get chills once the logo pops and the horns blare>Watch the Remake version>It extends the squence to 5 minutes 21 seconds from the original 2m and loses the punch it had from the originalIts just so appropriate that the Remake takes one of the best things ever and drags it out to an unnecessary amount and ruins the moment.God people who genuinely enjoy this slop should be killed
https://youtu.be/p0US1DstbjE?si=ArlF2vmEHWgy30X9
