>Manipulates you though two games.>Gets fucked by a floating eye but escapes from you.>Once again manipulates you and escapes unscratched.25 real life years this motherfucker has avoided us and, with the failure of the third game and the death of the series character designer, we will never kick his ass. Fuck Alex and Golden Sun thread, I guess.
>>739118901Fuck you, third game doesn't exist.
>>739118901I feel like that if the series continue, they would have pulled a Naruto Orochimaru with Alex.
>>739118901he contributed to saving the world though, even if he wanted to take the power for himself at the end, and he got FUCKED by a giant eyeball
>>739119192Dark Dawn, anon, Dark Dawn.
Any other games with dungeons like in GS?
>>739119094The 3rd game exists and is better than the 1st one.
>>739119390Then why it failed?
>>739119482Because Camelot realized that spending so much time and effort on original IP when they already had access to the Mario goldmine was not worth it.They could of been The RPG guys for Nintendo but instead MonolithSoft got that role.
>The Wise One ruins Alex's dream by making part of the golden sun power go to Issac.>In dark dawn, Himi had a vision that "Issac was in danger" and her older brother Takeru went to search for him.Logic tells me that if Alex wants to finally obtain the ultimate power, he has to get Issac but as the series is dead we will never know it.
>>739119482Higher standards for JRPGs on the DS compared to the GBA, also it wasn't an improvement over GS2, also wasn't technologically impressive anymore
>>739119662Also another detail that will never be explored: at the game end you can mind read your party members and Amity find himself "thinking in Alex for some reason", what if Alex can somehow mind control his son?
>enter this thread>open youtube>see this recommendedBro what the fug
>>739119936>Be mysterious man of mystery who does things because of mysterious reasons>3 games refuse to elaborate>Dimwit youtuber makes a video essay calling him the most interesting GS character
>>739119482Really it just couldn't keep up. Golden sun really pushed the gba hardware, and looked great.On DS. It just didnt change much. And had more competition. Really though i just think Golden sun, and beyond the beyond Csmelotz first rpgs, were mostly motivated by one of the founders. And he just lost intrest in making a new one.
>>739120104It should have remained 2.5D...
>GS4 will be HD2D to cut costs
>>739120104>CsmelotzJesus how did I fuck that up that badly.
>>739120206GS4 will never happen, DD was a failure, the character designer dies, several key devs left Camelot, Nintendo has Xenoblade now.
>>739119390I ain't even mad bro.
To this day, I don't get why GS shipping wars were as bloody as FFVII shipping wars.
>>739119094I liked Sveta
>>739120512Remind me, does camelot own gs or nintendo?If its nintendo, they will eventually pick it up again. But if its camelot its probably dead unless a fan autist finishes one of the engines.
>>739120696How Issac feels that his son is a furry instead of pf a tomboy chaser like him?
>>739120696SEX
>>739120769Nintendo.
>recently playing GS on my new R36S>save the tree girl from the river.>Reach crossbone island from the boat to tolbi.I played GS shitloads of times as a kid and these two things I never did until this recent playthrough. I didn't know the tree girl could be save, I let her die loads of times.
>>739120080He just wanted omnipotente.
>>739120904Yeah so it might take 20 years but i think they will eventually make another. Might be soon actually. Sokobon puzzles are growing in popularity and thats basically what golden sun was.
>>739121147Yeah...and his first action when he thought he got it was trying to cast a massive thunderstorm over Vale for no reason. I feel that if Alex ever gets the ultimate power, he will go full Kefka just for the hell of it.
My pitch for a golden sun game would be a puzzle mmo. It would be a kind of living game. With two ages. Players would alternate between lighting and extinguishing the light houses to trigger the new era. Each time shuffling the dungeons and loading new puzzles. The puzzles would be technically simple. Basic sokobon stuff. But by preventing players from having a birds eye view of the puzzle and requiring complex team work to complete it would take time for someone to actually get through. Id even incorperate traps that might make it technically possible to complete incorrectly but would leave a party member stranded somewhere.
>>739121815Anon, your idea sucks. The only thing GS fans want is to kick Alex's ass.
who's the biggest fuck up in the golden sun series?
>>739122171I don't think there is any way to give closure on Alex that would feel satisfying.
Do anons think with mario tennis aces flopping nintendo might finally realize that making Camelot exclusively work on tennis and golf is a bad idea? Is there hope for golden sun?
I used to think these characters were cool but they're just lame villain versions of mary sues.They know everything nobody else does etc.
man. the first one and the second one were some of the best rpgs on the gba...sucks the series is just fuckin' dead.
>>739122758That's not a bad thing. Mary Sue's are bad because the writer wants everyone, including you, to fall in love with the character despite how abnoxious they actually are. As a villain, you're supposed to hate them so it works.
2003 was 30 years ago, Golden Sun is done.
I remember being in 6th grade and seeing one of my friends play it during lunch, seeing him use djinn and then do a summon and I was so hyped, had to go out and buy it. GS2 was an improvement in every way. Shame series died. What was cool was the different classes based on djinn used and the little secret classes like samurai and ninja and shit.
TLA > DD > 1
>>739118901Reminder that Jenna > Mia.
If Nintendo were to do a remake to gauge interest, would you buy?
>>739125146No...Golden Sun is in a Star Fox situation: people want a continuation, not a remake, even more in GS case because we have fucking Alex who has escaped retribution for 25 real life years.
>>739125372Half a dozen people want another golden sun, not enough for Nintendo to greenlight any project nowadays.
>>739125660Plus Nintendo has Xenoblade now.
>>739126561So? Nintendo has multiple platformer series that run in parallel. Golden Sun and Xenoblade are very different styles of JRPGs too.
I am in Tolbi at level 19, I am undeleveled?
>>739125146Eh maybe? A huge part of golden suns appeal was the summon animations. I still occasionally go back and check out the summon animations for dark dawn despite not liking the game much. Its possible to overhaul golden sun and make it fresh again.
>>739126561>>739126778I personally prefer the retro style of jrpgs over modern ones, so I'd be perfectly happy if nintendo wanted to have a dedicated "classic jrpg" series, sort of like how squeenix has series like octopath and barely default
>>739127696>barely defaultLMAO
>>739127176Maybe just a bit? If it's your first time probably doesn't hurt to gain a few levels.
>>739120696She was okay, not sure if turning the second half of the game her plot was the best idea, especially when the two last adepts felt really tacked on in comparison
>>739120696Melia before Melia.
Why are modern jrpgs so allergic to good dungeon designs? Lufia 2 figured it out on the snes, and golden sun continued it in spirit. Are modern jrpgfags really so braindead that they can't handle basic puzzles and maze navigation?
>>739132013Are saying that the lighthouses are bad? Bitch, I will fight you.
>>739132196No I'm saying the opposite. Lufia II and the Golden Sun games got JRPG dungeons right. I'm saying I wish more modern JRPGs took inspiration from games like golden sun instead of the lame hallways simulators we always get nowadays.
>>739132393Oh, I see.
>>739120769>unless a fan autist finishes one of the engines.What do you mean? Is someone actually doing whole new fan games from scratch or more like modding tools for the roms?I've coded up a djinn system that I'd be willing to contribute to any project that isn't a shambling corpse.
>>739125146Depends on how they execute it
>>739120104>>739120280Chainsawmanelotz
>>739121147Why would he want his dick to be limp 100% of the time?
>>739119094Fpbp
>>739132013I fully agree but for that to happen, JRPGs in general need to have more world interaction like those two gamesUsually puzzles in a JRPG (if it has any) don't go beyond a block or a light puzzle, meanwhile Lufia 2 nearly had Link's bag of tools and GS had multiple psyenergy, though most of them only worked as an obstacle remover and the more interesting ones like Frost could have been used more often
>>739120990>save the tree girl from the river>She gives you a Hard Nut
>>739135324Would push her into the river just to save her again
>>739118901Alex should be in Smash. Additionally we should get to fight Alchemical Mastery Alex as he appears just before being crushed by the eruption.
>>739118901Wise One was a sore loser faggot rivaled only by the Shinigami king in the Death Note spinoff that changed the rules on the fly to fuck over a guy who outsmarted him.
>>739120652Probably because of the male-to-female ratio in the party
>>739120104>Golden sun really pushed the gba hardware, and looked great.Golden Sun looked like low res dogshit compared to Shining the Holy Ark, the spastic dynamic camera did a lot of heavy lifting.
>>739132013I'm convinced the early playstation era completely changed the demographic of JRPG fans. Yes, SNES era rpgs had more story than a lot of other genres, but they focus on them way too much nowadays
>>739119370you could try lufia2.
>>739137971You really didn't play shit like DQ5 or FFVI or Live-A-Live if you think the story focus wasn't already heavy in the late SNES era.
>>739138090I just hate how any semblance of meaningful gameplay has been abandoned in modern jrpgs because faggots will whine about they just want to see the story and that's it
>>739138090>Live-A-LiveAbsolute kinoDunno why people latched onto the inferior chrono trigger
>>739138171Meaningful gameplay isn't divorced from story, all of my examples also illustrate that point quite well. What you are seeing is mainstream games simply becoming easier and easier and more straightforward to appeal to a broader and lower-skilled lcd of players. These older games didn't mind letting you get stuck or confused, because they weren't worried about dedicated JRPG fans giving up so easily.
>>739138090>>739138171Also, I acknowledged that snes jrpgs still had a lot of story. It just feels like ever since the jump to 3d we've seen overworlds and dungeons get dumbed down for braindead retards who just want to put the controller down and watch the next cutscene.
>>739138330>>739138329
Golden Sun really had potential as a franchise but trying to have games in a continued story arc was what killed DD, other faults notwithstanding.The time gap from GS2 to DD was enormous and it was a prelude from how long periods of time between games would become the standard. FF7 Remake is already suffering a lot because of dev cycles making the whole story take almost a decade to be completely released.GS would need to keep the alchemy comfy setting and djinni systems but make more or less standalone stories like Breath of Fire, FF and other series did in the past.GS1&2 released back to back almost and even back then there was quite the lenghty hiatus between 1 and 2 and they had a continuing story with a cliffhanger and everything. Looking back 2 years felt like a long time but it's almost nothing nowadays.
>>739138329I think you misunderstood my point entirely. I don't mind jrpgs having a story, and I'm not saying we should do away with them entirely. I'm complaining that shit like FF7 brought an influx of faggots that don't give a shit about having a good game behind the story. The genre morphed into one strictly known for the story when I feel like JRPGs used to be more than just that.
I need Sveta carnally
the lore gap is what killed Dark Dawn, not just the time gap. none of the places or groups that were established (or hinted) in GS/TLA were expanded on in Dark Dawn. it was all paved over with beastman stuff and the elemental machines. nothing about champa and its ruins, nothing about izumo or the islander villages, nothing about contigo and the shaman village, nothing about garoh's werewolves despite the beastman angle. if not for some character cameos and psynergy, dark dawn could've been a final fantasy game.
>>739138541And I'm telling you that the issue isn't 'storfags' ruining your JRPGs, it's the industry-wide stance that your games should be dumbed down so anyone and everyone is interested in it and will play it. Dungeon design being dumbed down is an extension of that mindset. FF7's only 'crime' is being very popular and attracting a large fanbase of casuals, but the movement ended up happening to even niche JRPG series.
>>739125146There are few Nintendo franchises that I would blindly jump in on these days, but anything to do with Golden Sun would IMMEDIATELY hook me in, no questions asked.
>>739138708Most games of the genre now release with difficulty options even with a normal mode more aligned with easy modes of the past so nobody gets offended.No idea why they can't release more jrpgs with normal/hard modes out of the bat.
>>739138854Difficulty modes help with battles, but they unfortunately can't address stuff like dungeon design, which was part of anon's complaint.
>>739138708The amount of jrpgfags I see that refuse to play anything from the 2d era is astounding. Far more than what I see in other genres
>>739138997Puzzle difficulty a la silent hillFor the japs that just want a movie and for the people that want a good game>>739135132You wouldnt get it
>>739139152Really? Because graphicsfags seem most prominent in mainstream FPS games (not boomer shooters,) sports games, and open world games.
>>739138243Original never got localized.
>>739139270>Really? Because graphicsfags seem most prominent in mainstream FPS games (not boomer shooters,) sports games, and open world games.Chrono Trigger fags existThey praise the game for its>graphics>music>pacingAnd thats it, because the gameplay is nothing to write home aboutSeems more like moviegame fags tho
>>739139270FPS games absolutely saw a shift too, but that was completely different since it was a shift in focus to multiplayer over singleplayer. It had nothing to do with graphics faggotry.Sports games have always been low IQ and the only thing sportsfags care about is playing the latest slop their friends are playing. Also different.I'm not even sure why you brought up open world games
>>739139152I hate 1st person battles and I think I've played almost every DQ game available in English.
>>739139492That's not really the same thing as what I replied to.>>739139510Because I'm disagreeing with the point made. "More JRPG fans refuse to play 2D games than any other genre." It's just fundamentally not true, it's worse for JRPGs than stuff like metroidvanias (where 2D is, if anything, the standard still) but compared to your average Call of Duty, FIFA, or GTA player? The mainstream audience for those genres will never, ever touch the old 2D games in those genres.
>>739139689>The mainstream audience for those genres will never, ever touch the old 2D games in those genres.Yeah, and I explicitly explained why. Every series you listed lives and dies on their multplayer scene, gta included. Jrpgs are different because they are single player games.
>>739139689>That's not really the same thing as what I replied to.Until you realize most CT players refuse to play any other JRPG because they already played the so called "peak"
Was it worth it?
>>739140305Yes
>>739140305>isaac is fucking mia>Hans(?) is fucking furriesCant remembee the name of this dude
>>739140398Matthew?Also Isaac boned Jenna, not sure what youre on about
>>739140509>Isaac boned JennaWrong. That was ___Me_
Saturos did nothing wrong.
Agatio and Karst got done dirty.
>>739141009>Turbo fucks Isaac and Garrett for no reason
>>739131045Xenoblade 1 came out before Dark Dawn.
What was her deal anyway?
>>739141092Melia was such a nothingburger character holy shitJust seeing her again made me remember
>>739141127needs impregnation
>>739132013We have Mina and Elliot coming out soon to see if modern devs truly can do dungeon puzzles anymore. I'm hopeful, but Sea of Stars was a Golden Sun spiritual successor even more than Chrono Trigger, and even so, its puzzles sucked ass.
>>739141086They were trying to stop him from saving the world.
>>739141173I never played GS3 - why is Melia compared to the Sveta furry?
>>739141092Opps, sorry, still both are basically the same character with one major difference.
>>739120696sveta.............sexo............
>>739141009He was an asshole, he never tried to just explain himself, he was always antagonist.
>>739141127Needed correction.Got murdered instead.
>>739141309They basically have the samw story, if I recall correctlyExcept one is bird people and the other is beast people.Sveta's story of course wasnt finished, but for the longest time it was just Melia 2
>>739141436>They basically have the same story"Basically"?>Both are animal girls.>Both have silver hair.>Both are princesses of their respective races.>Both suffer a massive genocide of their races.>Both are forced to fight their older brothers at one point.>Both are crowned Queens of their respective races at the end.>Both are in love with their respective MC.The only difference is that Sveta never got cucked as Mathew doesn't have a "Fiora".
>>739141367>Hey dude check it, your god is wrong because I said so!Would work on no one ever.
>>739142010What? What "god"? The problem was that the whole world was literally shivering away, his town and the mars lighthouse where next to the edge.
>>739141749She did get cucked thoughBy the cliffhanger lmao
>>739141127What was the Dark Adepts deal in general? Everything they do is arguably just some kind of gadget but the furry king's souped up form does some attacks that seem to involve dark energy. So is Dark Psynergy even real, like Light Psynergy is, or what?
>>739142010>>739142081This dude is acting like the Golden Sun characters wouldnt just start talking their asses off instead of fighting
>>739118901remember when the final boss of 1 was a brother and sister merging to become a two headed dragon with tranny colors?
>>739142081The Wise One. Everyone's issue is that Saturos and Menardi didn't try to convince Isaac they were in the right (they did try to convince Vale's Elders and got rebuffed,) but the obvious reality is that there is no way Isaac would've believed them over the Wise One. The only person in their group who might have convinced Isaac is Felix, and it was Felix's own choice to stay mute instead of trying.
>>739142237They weren't siblings...
>>739142237>the guys are literally red and blue>they fuse into a drag9n with blue, red, and purpleLolIf you want tranny representation Chrono Triggee got you covered tho
>>739118901>the death of the series character designerWhy do retards keep believing this myth? It was the monster designer who died, not any of the character designers.
>>739141367Soldiers aren't diplomats, and the latter were rebuffed by Vale's ignorant, secretive, and proud elders.
>>739142247Funny enough, the wise one never called itself a god and the only one to ever call it that was Piers.
>>739142442The literal appellation doesn't actually matter, only the status and authority it holds over people who believe in it. To Vale, the Wise One is the highest possible authority. Call him a god or not, the same point applies.
Did Issac and co kill saturdos and mernadi...or they cast themselves into the hole out of despair over being defeated even at their maximum power?
>>739142636Killed.
>>739141749Does Sveta have a half sister who tried to assassinate but then ended up being best girl and making peace with her to be her devoted right hand only to get completely forgotten about by the creators in the games that came after? (I know that last one was mean, but I'm still mad about that. )
>>739142636Sat and Menardi fused together to make the dragon and on defeat, sacrificed themselves.
>>739119390>The 3rd game exists and is better than the 1st one.I agree, but despite emulating parts of Golden Sun as a kid, I never really gave it a chance, but when Dark Dawn dropped I beat it and eagerly waited for more, though at the time I didn't realize how bad the points of no return were, since I didn't use a guide and realize I was missing like half the djinn.
>>739142636Isaac maims them and then they become an hero
>>739142109>She did get cucked though>By the cliffhangerI think the player was cucked by the cliffhanger more than Sveta was.
>>739142803Dont remind me
Regardless thier objective being saving the world, Saturos and Mernadi were massive assholes so fuck them, same with the other two, be assholes and you get a fucking Odyssey in the face.
We should have had at least a chance at beating Saturos and Menardi at the start of GS1
>>739142916Karst is only an asshole because her sister got murdered. Also her and Agiato only die because of the Wise One, who is the biggest asshole.
>>739142945You canBut you go to sleep on the floor right after right after and let them escape
So what was Felix's "terrible fate" which Ivan "Chinese looking blood related who look NOTHING like him" sister mentioned in GS1?
>>739118901>never fights or hinders you even once>even heals you and gives you advice>never loses his patience once and remains stoic>almost wins the entire thing if not through off-screen bullshitHe's a pretty good example of a completely neutral villain who almost gets away with practically everything. Even the villains of the second game are just his hired hands left to distract you whilst he walks off and keeps an eye on Mt. Aleph.
>>739143158It's a pseudo scripted loss.
>>739143341Getting kidnapped as a kid and raised as a captive by dragon people in the north.
>>739119370Wild ARMs
>>739143410Thag is the past, ivan's sister was talking about his future. Some "fate she doesn't wishes to anybody".
>>739143472Having to beat up his parents a giant evil rock is trying to get him to kill.
>>739143341The biggest nothing-burger of the entire series.
>>739143510But that fate also applies to issac and jenna.
>>739143341>>739143472Not appearing at all in the third entry and going dormant forever
>>739141009Saturos and Menardi did nothing wrong. Both of them ended up being completely justified in their actions.
>>739143521So? She didn't say Isaac and Jenna wouldn't suffer the same fate.
>>739143551Is mentioned he "disappeared".
>>739119603we need another mario golf
>>739141241As someone whobprefers classic jrpgs ro modern ones, is sea of stars worth it?
>>739143617>>739143341Pretty sure this was supposed to be resolved in Dark Dawn 2 - Cloudy Noon
>>739122453no mario tennis and golf games are good ideas
>>739125114mia love...
>>739125146is going to be a hd2d remake
>>739144096Who she fucked? Because her son is a fucking glasses nerd she must have fucked one.
>>739125372and just like star fox this is what we are going to get
>>739143870>No alliterationDark DawnMurky MiddayDim DuskTwinkling Twilight
>>739142995>because her sister got murderedActually Mernadi threw herself into the pit out of despair for losing to some "noobs".
>>739144171Me, of course.And yes, she does anal too.
>>739144170And I'd still buy it!
>>739120990this game rewards exploration and choice, everything can be interacted in the way (you) expect
>>739138243fan translation is the only one that exists
>>739144489It got a remakeWhich fucked up some easter eggs and secrets but got some new cool stuff specially the VA for Oersted
>>739138509i read somewhere long ago that the plans for the golden sun series was just to release the first 2 games in succession with the third one being planned much later after the games became popular cant remember if the last part is true tho but the first two being in planning at the same is definitely true and my schizo theory
>>739141009saturos and menardi were trying to save their people only for them to be tricked by alex
>>739142237it probably looks better with the original and burned screen of the gba
>>739144671Yeah. To nobody's surprise Dark Dawn only happened because so many people asked for more after The Lost Age.But then a third sequel would release way later than the original one and I'm sure devs didn't know if they did something tied to the previous ones or did a standalone thing and really did neither.And for a game about collecting creatures to be used in combat, in limited total number, I remember the third one had one or two points of no return.
>>739144973Wasnt it like 5?4 after progressing the story and a last one right before the final boss or something
>>739145025So it's even worse than I remember? lolAt least I liked the combat themes in Dark Dawn.
>>739144389Hey, how kid me was supposed to know that you can step into a small part of the road full of water? I do remember trying to move her out with...move...but the hand didn't reach her because i didn't step into the small pond.
>>739144552The appologism for his friend and the princess and what they did was absolutely vile.
>>739144795Imagine how different the plot would've been if Saturos and Menardi had managed to convince Mia to join them instead.
>>739146219Where? In the remake Straibought is still in denial and the princess just begs you to stop oersted, this is exactly what they did the original but they speak it in "Greece tragedy" language, there is not "appologism".
>>739146568Their deaths and punishment is framed as bad and wrong, and the princess heroically helps you stop Oersted. She's depicted as a tragic and heroic figure, not a backstabbing monster like what she is.
>>739146629>not a backstabbing monster like what she is.what is it with virgins and fearing fictional female infidelity?
>>739121243It's already been 20 years since the last game. They also no longer need GS to shore up their JRPG roster. It's dead, time to accept it
>>739146629Dude, she is already with a fate worse than death which you can't do anything about anyway and by that point Oersted is putting literally all the timelines in danger, everything that happened before is moot, Oersted must be stopped for the sake of existence itself.
>>739146729Infidelity is literally betrayal my dude
>>739146891Making her a hero is meant to absolve her of any guilt of her crimes. Also his death frees her.
>>739130260>especially when the two last adepts felt really tacked on in comparisonGod it was so funny that the girl you wake up with the Stone genuinely has no clue who anyone is or what's even happening if you recruit her especially late in the game. There's absolutely no contact with the main plot she just pops up after you give her the rock and she just is happy to be tagging along.
>>739147070Anonz how the fuck they made her an "hero" all she does is ask you to sopt oesterd and kick you out from theind dungeon. Hell, who they actually turned into a hero is Oersted himself as the new final boss has him literally ripping himself out of his own hatred and finish it off, OERSTED LITERALLY DESTROYED HIS OWN HATRED.
>>739146729>Just let women cheat on you, broYou're a cuck.
>>739147117I like the idea of her, getting a caster-type Venus adept, but she really should've been saved for a fourth game.
>>739147236*Stop*The mind dungeon Fucking typos also to remain on topic, I want Alex to go insane like Oersted did, the most close thing we got is when the Wise One fuck him up (who has stolen my dream?!) but by DD he calmed down.
>>739144389>everything can be interacted in the way (you) expectThen the game didn't let me date Mia?It's not fair, I loved her a lot when I was a kid
>>739147447>VinnyFuck this dude he hasnt been funny in ages and now hes just clearly in it for the money>oh blade runner> oh chrono trigger>oh red letter media>chat what do i do>literally camming and clickbaitingWhat happened?
If seems there was clues that Jenna was into Issac since GS1, I went back to vale after getting Mia and mind read people and a dude inside the sanctum thinks "A beautiful girl (Mia) has joined Issac in his quest, I wonder what Jenna thinks about it..."
>>739147529Chasing the Jerma and pewdiepie level of fame warps a man's existence.
This is CamelotIf I get 9 likes I'll announce Golden Sun - Dark Dawn 2: Dawn Harder on the 27th of may
>>739147649If Isaac wants to fuck Jenna he has to fuck Garet first
>>739148468What about Felix
>>739148516Hes the one calling the shots now
>>739148549holy fuck that is from the pvp mode aint it?
>>739148685I forgot, did DD have PvP mode?
>>739118901Golden sun is overrated shit
>>739120696Issac: MY SON IS NOT A FURRY!!!
>some dude recreated the OST in it's entirety uncompressed>nintendo music gives us official (lame) titlesall we need now is official looking album art and we're golden
>>739120080To be fair, he does have more character than the rest, even if most of it is due to it not being clear which team he is on.
>>739118901What? We got two games...The fuck was a third?
>>739151524
>>739151428Funny, I thought the same thing. If I could find an artist to replicate the official style I'd drop probably 300USD on it, but I'm sure it would just be a jeet pretending with AI so we get nothing.
>>739151030Boy oh boy if you wanna talk overrated O got a treat for you
>matched with some woman on duolicious>mention golden sun GBA games have better pixel art than the NES FF's>got unmatched
>>739153356Is the app any good?
I think both dark dawn and NEO TWEWY are perfect examples of never making a sequel literally more than a decade after the last game.
>>739153497it's the same trash as usual dating apps. most of my chats were bots/OF sellers hitting me up, 5 were replying with one word/sentence answers so I stopped replying, one ghosted me after some good talk when I mentioned my situation. honestly it's the best shot for people like us. my mate got a gf and lost his virginity at 32 on it and is still with her. either way it's rough out there
>>739153498neo twewy was still good IMO, even with the pacing issues and scramble slam shit. I'm happy Neku got a happy ending finally.
>>739153626I am in no dire need of pussy, but a gf would be niceJust moved to another state and basically know no one aroundThanks I'll check it out
>>739153737good luck man
>>739153675But it was a sales failure like DD and ultimately killed its series too.
>>739118901so why does the third game emulate like ass
>>739153805we were lucky to even get NEO, so I'm okay with that. I'm still miffed they just sent it out to die with zero marketing, and the PC shadow drop on steam competing with fucking P5R
>>739153869No good DS emulator in existence unless you wanna play Pokeslop
>>739153909And don't forget SE hiding away the existence of the switch version for some reason.
>>739153940I mean other games like KH Recoded and even Love Plus run fine, it's literally just DD that slows down to a crawl if I dare to have anything else open and refuses to be rendered using OpenGL
>>739153675Honestly, the original ended happy enough and had nothing but a bright future for him, it's just Final Remix that decided to drag his ass back for "one final game"And then he shows up at the butt end of the game, loses some braincells (how did he not know about the Gatto Nero brand when he's in a Gatto Nero getup with a big ass GATTO NERO written on them), barely does anything other than be a plot device for W3D7.3 and FINALLY after all that bullshit gets to plow his nerdy (and now rich as fuck) glasses GFI didn't really like how they handled Neku in NEO, but how they handled Beat was great
Reminder Matthew was ready to DIE with Sveta when firing the Apollo Lens, how much level of furry is he?
>tfw filtered by dullahan
>>739154584it's still funny to me that he was sent on what's essentially a sidequest and then shit escalates to a world-ending plot that gets resolved in a single game (his dad needed two)and he comes back and yet another world-ending plot that was building in the background is about to start and BAM no more games
>>739154690The only issue with Dark Dawn is the fact that it feels like it's 3 different stories stapled together.And no continuation doesn't help
>>739154584I feel this shit was wasted potential, Mathew's psynergy somehow fuse with Sveta, they basically did a pseudo fusion/doom dragon like fusion that doesn't involve body horror. Does this has battle applications? Like giving sveta the ability to cast all Matthew's attacks or maybe something new? Remember Mario & Luigi Dream Team where dreamy luigi fuses with Mario during battle and allows him to pull crazy combination attacks? I imagine Sveta with Matthew 's psynergy would pull something like this.
What if you got a sequel, but the protag was femaleSpecifically, Matt and Sveta's daughter, forma de dog girlHappy responses include a tail wag, yes its still an emoticon fest
>>739155676Anon...first we have to solve the DD's cliffhanger.
>>739155702Oh don't worry it will all be revealed in the Dialogue's Archive feature
>>739155702Its time/dimension shenanigansThe vortex is a rift to another worldSecond party will be the parents
>>739118901I JUST beat the first game yesterday, it was fun but it took me way too long to understand how the djin system works and I still don't completely master it. That secret pirate boss island was fun, I really like the puzzles in general.Hope the second game holds up.
>>739156018Other than the writing because Kraden exists, it's basically a full upgrade in all fronts. Have fun with TLA, anon.
>>739156018Anon, everyone just give each adept djinns of their correspondent element.
>>739138673Yeah, and instead of developing the cultures that already existed, they just spawn several large and advanced civilizations in the continent that was explored in the first game... and tell you they've been there for thousands of years. Fucking ridiculous.
>>739156018>I don't wanna think about itGive everyone their correspondent djinnis, your needs will be attended and you can beat the game easy (but not Reloaded, at least not without grinding)>I want to play for the metakinda difficult to explain in one go since each class fills a certain niche and you're better looking up what each one does
>>739156879That is because the long time between LA and DD releases, they thought most of the old fans moved on and didn't want to confuse new fans with stuff only people that played the original games would know.
>>739157680Whoa, took very long time for you to appear this time.
>>739157720Hello again anon.
>>739157832Hello, post more Sveta. I wish I could draw and/or have money for commissions, I would make a pic where Issac react with horror to the fact that his son is a furry.
>>739157936Sure.She's cute. I should commission her too someday..best DD girl
>>739157961Her Melia's aura is too strong.
>>739143390He doesn't even really seem that villainous outside of wanting power. Like, he was fine with helping out constantly and didn't really hold a grudge against Isaac or his buddies in DD. If anything he outright helped them despite now being what is functionally a god. Dude's just pissed at The Wise One at this point. At worst he tried discouraging Matthew from potentially throwing his life away to save the world.
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>>739158106The only thing that made Alex an objective villain was him trying to summon a storm over Vale at the end of TLA. As shitty as the Vale Elders are as people for refusing to let anyone save the world, attempting to destroy everyone living there is a bit much.
>>739158170Ah yeah, true. Forgot about that one. Though you could argue that's just him being pissed at The Wise One by proxy since they were covering for him.
>>739158106He wants Matthew alive because he needs him for his plan, in this same scene you can mind read Amity and he will be puzzle over why is he thinking about Alex at this moment. Is easy to assume that he wants the rest of the Golden Sun power and for that he needs his son, he also may be able to mind control his own son.
>>739158225>Though you could argue that's just him being pissed at The Wise One by proxy since they were covering for him.That makes no sense, at that moment Alex thought he obtained ultimate power and was ecstatic and pretty sure he wanted to cast a fucking storm for the hell of it, in other words he was going full Kefka but when nothing happened he snapped back into reality.
>>739158260>he wants the rest of the Golden Sun power*Which is in Issac...
>>739143841It's okay. It didn't really touch the games it was inspired by, but it was better than Eiyuuden Chronicles atleast. It's fun exploiting Moonerang at first, but gets old pretty quickly. The story and characters also made me WISH I was playing Golden Sun instead.
>>739158260>he also may be able to mind control his own son.Yeah, but wouldn't we have seen aspects of it throughout the game if so? Outside of the initial meeting he doesn't really do much outside of act as a helper for saving his home.>>739158354Forgot the specifics of that, you're right.
>>739158041Her aura isn't strong enough to give her her own side-campaign and role in the sequel like the real Melia tho. And does she have an awesome sax tune as well?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJyoT5J0OEw
>>739158591At least Sveta wasn't cucked and became a meme for it.
>>739158521Why is Matthew...inside Sveta? LEWD.
>>739158423It's technically spread over the original party, Felix and Isaac parents and Kraden. He probably just want a new source of power for his godly delusions.
>>739158910The wise one specifically said Issac.
>>739159176What happened off screen to make Felix go fucking mental for her? Dude jumped off the fucking lighthouse for her
>>739159265Well she did fall off..
Say what you will about DD, the game probably deserves it but this whole sequence is one of the most neat things i've seen in a videogame>Games usually recap events to catch new players up with a previous entry by having an optional lore dump library/data log section or just straight up painfully tell each and every event that happened>Dark Dawn instead has an early game section where they recreate the first two games in a Takeshi's Castle course and has the party go through the events of those games themselves in an abridged version that is on a timer with a mock of the final boss at the endActual cool stuff that I wish more sequels would try and follow up with by doing something similar or in the same spiritShame you can't revisit this because of the stupid points of no return the game is littered with
Does Dark Dawn have any transcendent songs like this one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBHanxWrMSM
>>739159414I do think the fact that the little setup still paints Saturos and Menardi as villainous after TLA's revelations is exceedingly unfair.
>>739159650They did beat them, that's not up to debate here, so that's what you do in the Warriors of Vale Crash Course
>>739120769>>739121243keep telling yourself that, I'm still waiting for Startropics 3.
>>739159414Dark dawns hate is overblown. Yes, the point of no returns really suck, but everything else felt like golden sun and I was happy I got to play it
>>739159650The retelling also paints Felix as the great mastermind who all the prox warriors answered to, when he was just tagging along for most of the ride. It's not an unbiased book.
sex with garet
>>739151428>recreatedAnon, he just ran the midi files through the original Roland Sound Canvas device.
>>739121243>Sokobon puzzles are growing in popularityI mean aren't those the same puzzles in every zelda and pokemon (which have also completely abandoned the gameplay styles that would facilitate them, even in 3D)
>>739132013>Are modern jrpgfags really so braindead Don't even need to end the question, the answer is always yes.
>>739141009Except kidnapping and making Felix and his whole family hostages for years.
>>739141009He and Menardi are retarded and failed a basic Move puzzle which ended up causing the avalanche.Assaulted Isaac and Garet.Kidnapped Jenna's and Felix's parents and Isaac's dad.Held them hostage for Felix to stay on their side.Kidnapped Jenna and Kraden.Knocked over the tree-people at Bilibin Barricade.Attempted to kill Isaac's group at Mercury Lighthouse without knowledge that they were still holding onto the Mars star.Assaulted various soldiers who were doing their jobs.Caused the rockslide near Altin and Xian.Attempted to kill Isaac's group in Venus Lighthouse without knowledge that they were still holding onto the Mars Star.Seethed over losing because they were retarded.They did everything wrong other than fucking over Babi.
>>739160945You forgot>Kidnapping Sheba.
I can't help but think of mom Jenna as some chancla wielding demonAlso that short-haired older Jenna art makes me act up
>>739160561They needed a Venus Adept, that was non-negotiable and Vale was hostile but also the only place where Venus adepts are common. The only other place we know even makes Venus Adepts is Izumo, and they have a grand total of one, and it's way out of the way and I doubt they even knew the place might have them. It's the same reason they press-ganged Sheba, Jupiter Adepts are very rare with only two places they get born often, and when we get there we find one user in Garou (an old ass werewolf) and one near Jupiter Lighthouse (who is a baby and thus useless) so they basically had to grab the first one with useful levels of ability they bumped into. The only other options they'd have without somehow getting to where the Anemos are hiding would be bumping into Ivan purely by chance (since he's an unknown) or trying to talk Master Hama into it (they don't seem to have gone through where she is.)
>>739159641There's Luna Tower's Core I guess
>>739161003Kidnapping Sheba was sort of fine because she was already kidnapped by Babi. Especially since they got killed and she wound up getting her freedom (of sorts).
>>739120206We’re never getting Golden Sun 4 since we managed to get another Mario Slop Tennis game in the big 2026.
>>739161136Pretty much everything he described was either necessary for their goal or else was done out of ignorance. Their crime is mainly rushing, unlike the party who stops to help everyone with every little problem.
>>739120696Imagine the pawjobs
>>739141009They didn't kill Kraden, which ended up adding 100,000 redundant and sometimes even contradictory statements that had no reason to exist except to pad the playtime.
sex with agatio
>>739123361If Isaac ever got into Smash he’d probably be considered a retro character at this point. 2001 was a goated year for gaming and that was 25 years ago…
>>739125146Golden Sun ANYTHING would be nice to see in the big 2026
>turns u into a dragonHeh... All part of my plan...
>>739126561Xenoblade is baby’s first MMO RPGAlso it’s not 4 guys in a row like a true RPG
>>739161529>Does nothing>Win
>>739120696>generic kemonomimi girlI sleep.>she transforms into a sexo werewolfI am now interested in your game.
Golden sun 4 but you get a proxian gf(she loves you)Its not optional, she will rape you in your sleep
>>739118901tell me more about Water Sephirotwhy is he cool?
It's always bugged me how in Dark Dawn Isaac and Garet will talk about how the Golden Sun made them age very slowly and that they'll long outlive their children, but their designs look like they're in their late 40s to early 50s, like wtf.
>>739161658>Its not optional, she will rape you in your sleepGood
>>739127696I know Itoi ended the Mother series but even I still wish it could continue. Nope I’m NOT touching Toby Slop Undertalerune
>>739161658>Its not optional, she will rape you in your sleepSo what's the catch?
>>739119936>Most interesting>Does fucking nothing until last 5 minutes
>>739161667Isaac looks more in his mid-30s and Garet late 30's/early 40's.
>>739138839Nintendo has a ton of franchise but people only choose to play the basic bitch ones.
>>739140305Words cannot express how much I wish that were me on the left.
Never thought I see Rhythm Heaven make a comeback before Golden Sun, let alone Star Fox.
>>739137971>I'm convinced the early playstation era completely changed the demographic of JRPG fans.N64 kids were thankful for what they had.And yes, I know Paper Mario wasn't the ONLY RPG on the console.The PS1 and N64 is that there were a ton more games on the former, BUT also a whole lot of them were good to ok. The N64 had overall fewer games, but because the vast majority of them were either Nintendo or Rare, not too many were really that bad and a good number were still awesome
Nadia was my childhood videogame crush
>>739151030>Golden sun is overrated shitMaybe in your alternate timeline but in our timeline it’s Xenoblade Chronicles
>>7391628451 > 2 > 3 > X desu
>>739161864Anon, I'm mid 30s and both Isaac and Garet look like they're in their mid 40s.
>>739162315I'm very sorry your parents got divorced.
>>739162201Honestly completely believable to me. Rhythm Heaven and Starfox were just dormant tier, not completely dead never evers like Golden Sun and Mother. Even F-Zero I would consider dormant.
>>739153626>it's the same trash as usual dating apps.Dating Apps and Technology are such cancer and ruined females altogether.
>>739161782stage 6 babycrazyBetter start endurance training for all the uppies
>>739162201Rhythm Heaven is extremely cheap to make so there's no way they don't use it as their smaller budget brand.
>>739162494This is a very old Gonzares', he should remake it with his current level of skill.
>>739162721Uh...I just realized that Megaera is a TOMBOY!
>>739162025Shitloads of the stuff at the left are DED.
>>739163703Posting the Pyra's one too because why not?
>>739141009Saturos pov romhack when?
>>739164887Closest thing is the one where you have Jenna, all 4 proxians, Alex, a random furry (jupiter), and a random native (venus) for TLA: Alex's quest. Rife with FF shit like Alex getting Ultima in his kit.
>>739162025>W101Didn't Nintendo trade it for full ownership of Astral Chain?
>>739163021>Even F-Zero I would consider dormant.>2026 I am forgotten
>>739162494Cute on model soul>>739163703soulless off model garbage
>>739161641Infinitely based
>>739162315>Einhanderlmao, did the person who made this see Square on the box and assume it belonged?
>>739132013Because they stopped being influenced by Wizardry.
An HD remake of the first two games as 1 complete game would've been nice, but is of course just wishful thinking.
