Im not a jeet
I legit thought about how good vibe-coding is at creating a playable prototype. And use that prototype to make a Patreon to hire actual programmers and artists. And made a thread asking how good Claude is for that.The thread was deleted before I could get an answer.
>>739120914Why did you post a butthole?
>>739120914I know how do do real coding I can understand and maintain
>>739120914because he'd constantly be trying a fresh approach and suddenly I have code that looks nothing like the previous
>>739121089It's only as good as you are at prompting it.
>>739121192You know, it's funny, one of these retards tried to explain actually knowing how to code is a "weakness" since you can see immediate problems in vibe coded crap.Really annoying is that any conversation about this crap and how detrimental it is to actual coding tasks is having to listen to shit like retards like Mutahar playing both sides talking about how massively it's causing problems for productivity and creating unworkable software.But then immediately after swearing that it totally has benefits because he has shares in some of these companies.
Well i made one but they hated it on /g/https://core-knee.itch.io/dead-horse-debt
im fine with normal coding, really coding has to be like 5% of my development time, 80% of it is testing and AI cant help with that
All the AI companies making their logos buttholes or butthole adjacent feels meaningful somehow.
>>739121519the pajeetification is real
>>739121339>put in a position to defend IndiansFuck you. All he does is show people how to set up a local llm. He constantly stresses the energy costs. That's kind of the role he chose as the normie tech guy.
>>739121519these are just stars and rings, it says more about you that you "recognize" buttholes there
>>739121000FPBP trips
>>739121519yeah because openai did and every one of them is just hopping on the bandwagon
>>739120914is that a butthole?
>>739121519It's supposed to be infinity for infinite possibilities ... man
>>739121657looks like it's about to take a shit
>>739120914Why does it look like an asshole?
>>739121519the CHAD revolving door bucking the trend
>>739120914Projects are opportunities for me to trying doing new things and learn.Having an LLM do it for you, you won't learn, and the results will disappoint.Having an LLM try to coach you, you'll learn the wrong things.At best I use LLMs for troubleshooting and like a librarian to help navigate online searches, I occasional find answers I wouldn't have found through conventional searching (for lacking knowledge on what to actually search), but it still hallucinates too much shit.
>>739121657E=MC2 + Anus
Having this garbage shoved down my throat at work, it takes more effort to tardwrangle ai into doing what you need without it making shit up or also changing shit that doesnt need changing than just doing it myself without ai """"assistance""""
>>739121000trips of trvke
>>739120914>were going to squirt out some shit
I'm trying but even vibe coding doesn't magically just create a game.
>>739121539>Saar you are making me DEFEND the IndianLook, you can like him.You can even think running local models is not stupid (it is, I'm sorry)But don't come at me trying to say his youtube persona is not influence peddling shit, don't say that about ANY "major" youtuber these days because it's an ad platform that can incidentally be used for video hosting and streaming.Even if we go back to the closest thing his channel ever did to looking organic.He was still a shitty .exe game reaction channel in it for the money from dumb kids and wasn't actually interested in them.
I won't want to vibe with you faggots. you're all gay and obsessed with assholes
How do I make a videogame with AI, /v/?I want to make a cool platformer
>>739121903you sell your soul, $200 a month
>>739121795This, I've tried having AI help me make projects but it's missing something. I'd say its usefulness kind of ends at generating helper functions that sort arrays in a particular way or stuff like that.
>>739120914my skin is white
>>739121519Opencode is goatse
>>739121941what AI is missing is your intelligence. if you can't make your own game, then AI can't help you write one. you're just too stupid. sorry
>>739120914claude and whatever AI can't make a good and complete gamebest you get it mediocre garbage with no inherent value or vision
>>739121876Say that about mental outlaw and we're cool.
this board used to be funnier manwhat the fuck are these replies
AI is ignorant and stupid. it needs you to be the back bone. if you think it can write things for you without specific prompts, then you're just ignorant.
>>739120914Ok I'll wibe code a game. Point me towards the extremely easy to use GUI having software that makes my game poof into existence please. Or is it not that easy?
>>739122078All the comedy assassins started podcasts.
>>739122031>erm, but other youtuberIdiot
If you don't have:>Human in the loop>Spec Driven Dev>Test Driven Dev>Agent teams>plugins like superpowersyou're already shooting yourself in the foot and will constantly put out shit. AI dev requires you to shift your thinking from "builder" to "inspector". You don't do less work just different work usually.If you code for fun then don't use AI
>>739120914That logo looks like an anus.
>>739122246That's what I thought. Take your #INDIAN HATE and say Not today, chud.
>>739121089It can work but Anthropic's switching to API billing sooner or later so it'll probably cost more to vibe code than to just do it properly from the get-go
>>739121089I use it regularly to generate C# for UnityThings like "I want a script that triggers the ragdoll when I press a button and to have meatsquish sounds when it falls down"I wouldn't use it for larger or more complex tasks though.
>>739121558chocolate starfish and hot dog flavored waterI put on "Rollin' (Air Raid Vehicle)" when I'm rollin' with AI
>>739122336Read the posts you're replying to you idiot.
>>739121332Which implies that all you need is a comprehensible communication style, but there are so many logic pitfalls that the retarded toaster will try first that you're better off just hand cranking your code.
>>739122548I am not here to babysit your feelings. You've already exposed yourself as a bigot. Didn't have to be that way. You've chosen this fate.
Currently using GPT-5.5 to vibe code a basic FPS shooter to get the handle of things but telling it back and forth to create modern locomotion can be tiring. Any anons know if there is a modern open sourced first person shooter template for web games? Just getting shit to work like ledge mantling is annoying.
>>739120914Where's the fun in that?If I do it myself I get to enjoy the process, improve my skills, and actual understandment of the code, meanwhile, if I let AI do it, I get none of the positives, I have to pay for tokens, and I have to babysit the AI through it.
>>739121862>t. only anon who has actually tried to make vidyaThis board is filled with notjing but poser children.
>>739121089It could be. I think what most people ITT are assblasted about is 100% vibe-coding by someone who isn't a software engineer/developer/programmer whatever you want to call it. But I am one by trade, and at work we call shit we do now "vibe-coding" all the time in a tongue-in-cheek manner.Pretty much every day now, I plop a JIRA ticket into Claude and just say, "Do this ticket." And it gets me lik 99% of the way to having a pull request ready for review. I test it, tinker a little if needed, and then it's usually good to go. We spend most of our actual effort now adding good details to tickets and documents so that the AI coding can do its thing well.So IMO, vibe-coding is totally great for getting a prototype going, building out base boilerplate stuff that is well understood and designed, or adding small changes to existing features. The better you understand coding, the more powerful the tools are, like a saw in the hands of a master carpenter versus a child: you get better cuts from the master.I also think it's good for placeholder assets. Pic related; I was vibe-coding a Paper Mario clone with a cowboy aesthetic and used local gen to make this spritesheet. It took basically zero effort. Would I ship a game using these exact things? Obviously not. But for someone like me who can code and can't draw for shit, I like being able to gen stuff like this instead of using my shitty MS Paint placeholders or having to shell out for an artist to draw something I probably will never actually turn into a real finished game.
>>739123001Not even you can think that every part of making a game is fun.
>>739121519They're all just plays on the Star of David (Remphan)
>>739123017People are generally upset because the next question is why do corpo need (You), soon tm? Thoughts?
>>739123001It obviously depends on if making video games is a hobby of yours or something you do for money.Yes, it's tiresome. Yes, you should use every tool at your disposal to help make it easier, especially if you are a solo dev. Yes, AI is never going away.
>want to get a job as a programmer in current yearIt's already over for me, isn't it?
>>739123140It's a good question. Last year, I was genuinely a little scared that my job as a software dev would be in trouble. But after using Claude a ton and seeing people who are not devs try to use it (product designers, sales people, etc.), I feel extremely confident that my job is safe.We aren't going to be able to remove the human in the process. Instead, software devs can now do work that would have taken like 3 days previously in about 3 hours. And since "line must go up"... that really just means we're all gonna be expected to build more, more quickly. That will translate to fewer jobs available in some places at certain times, but it will also mean that it becomes feasible for firms to invest in products that would have been too much up-front labor to be worth it previously. So I think the net amount of coding jobs will be about the same, overall. I do, however, think that junior-dev or outsourced jobs will be less common. Why bother paying a junior or Indian guy when I can just write a bot that churns through the same difficulty tickets at a faster rate and doesn't need to ever stop working?
>>739123284Nah, you're fine. My recommendation would just be to get comfortable writing code using Claude Code or something similar. Plenty of companies are hiring and expanding, but they all want people who say they are willing and able to use AI doing it. If you come across as "anti-AI", you're gonna have a bad time in the current market.
>>739123284Bigly.
>>739120914What AI can i use for creating sprites or models?
i trained a qweb3 7b model on a bunch of blueprint screenshots, UE5.7 dev api and other blueprints and it made this interaction/highlight system for me, all i had to was optimize it (it loved using event ticks, example blueprints were a mistake) but it does look and perform quite well now. it doesnt make the blueprints itself it just tells me what nodes to use in text. hasnt really gone wrong yet
>>739123547thisyou REALLY gotta hide your power level because any peep of you not loving the "AI" will earn you an instant boot
>>739120914I'm too busy agentically coding work shit
>>739120914I just don't like the idea of having to be on the internet 24/7 and having everything not really stored on my puterand also it's crap compared to hand-made stuff
>>739123785Just use comfyui and download some decent local models & sprite loras then fuck about. Pretty sure it can do 3d as well now, but I haven't tried myself yet, do wonder what the topology would end up like, but there's probably ways to tweak that too.I was also considering creating a custom lora for generating normal maps from texture images as well, but I'm not even developing a game right now, just seemed like a good idea.Pretty sure there are generals on other boards like /g/ which might have some details on the current meta for this shit.
Because I'm not a low IQ talentless retard. "Vibe coding" is for pajeets and cryptobro tier skinwalkers pretending to be human.
>>739121089You'll burn through all your tokens in half an hour and be left having to paypig for the enterprise subscription to finish your shit.Vibecoding is already over
aren't you pretty much giving that company your entire game to make this? Doesn't it mean you technically don't own you own creation? Also isn't it based on a subscription?
I’m not Indian.
>>739120914I'm not retarded, but it is useful as a proxy for shitty documentation and Google sucking ass. It's good as a rubber duck that talks back or for doing grunt work too, but anything it creates is missing the "feeling" of a game, it works but is ultimately devoid of entertainment.Use it as a learning tool/to do simple tedious stuff/make placeholder assets, otherwise it still needs to be you at the keyboard or it'll feel functional yet hollow.
>>739122303test driven design is a meme invented to test jeet codes according to the specs. good devs don't need that waste of time. It's like agile coding that just requires you to hace a team of 3 Karmaks to be better than regular classig coders
>>739124643This sums it up. It's not>Jarvis, make a gameIt's a search engine that gives you exactly what you asked in an instant compared to digging through stack overflow for hours to find something vaguely close to your question.
>>739124207IMO, the approach of "build a gazillion giant-ass data centers to run AI" is fucking stupid and is going to be the main thing that people refer to in the future when they talk about any "AI crash". As models improve and tech gets better, you'll be able to do more and more locally without needing to have some distributed network churn through it. Basic image generation is already there if you have a decent graphics card for gaming. The main thing holding back local AI stuff is that companies keep their models and the "weights" proprietary, meaning the numbers that dictate how likely a certain piece of any response is. But once an open-source model gets good enough, people just won't bother paying unless they have need of certain high-end use cases. It's exactly how businesses will opt to put Linux on servers because it's free and gets the job done most of the time, and people at home can do the same unless they need Windows or MacOS for something specific (like gaming, unfortunately).
>>739124790Without this massive influx of spending the recession we'd see would be face ripping. The rest of the economy is non-existent unless you want to wipe boomer assholes clean with your tongue.
>>739120914the term "vibecode" sounds so lame and gay, they should ask their shitty AI for a better name for it
>>739124787Yeah exactly, and the other benefit is it can have the context of your codebase as well which is something Google etc. always lacked before so it makes it so much easier to debug, it's saved me so much time I've been able to get way more done. AI is the library of Alexandria with a nice interface rather than an omnipotent god, people just have psychosis about it.
Coding is fun, I just can't bring myself to do content once I have mechanics done.Creating a cutscene/dialog system with text parsing resulting in animation/emote changes was one of the most satisfying things I ever done diddly did.
>>739124436I regularly burn through 1 million + tokens daily. It's that good. Agentic coding is insanely good once you write all the workflows and skills for it
>>739126154so that's what, 100 bucks a day?
>>739126154How is that good you metric brained chimpookemon?
>>739126154>I regularly burn through 1 million + tokens dailyNot something to be proud of. At work I always see the same people hitting their limits by doing giant hypothetical refactors of the entire codebase while devs actually doing useful work almost never hit any limits even a single day. Or people giving prompts that are like have a sentence asking for some giant feature and not giving a single piece of direction for asks that span multiple code repositories. If you write good skills and other directions, you can chop of massive amounts of token usage with things as simple as>The thing service lives here: path/to/thing.php
>>739121089>And use that prototype to make a Patreon to hire actual programmers and artists.at least you're not planning to sell AI shit like this piece of shit>https://raigengames.itch.io/yandere-karyuki-nympho
I vibe coded a fix for a well know open source software I use. I posted on github explaining exactly what I found and how it was fixed and asked them to at least look at it since I built and the fix works.Closed without even a reply. Oh well got mine fuck them if they can't be bothered to even check it.
>>739128578The problem is there are so many fucking retards out there who tie their own shoes together and call it a solution because all the llm written tests come back green so it must be true.
>>739126154>once you write all the workflows and skills for itCould have learnt to code in the time it took you to get the LLM to be half as good as you think it is.Then you would have a real skill instead of your skill being "i know how to tell this specific model to do things"
