Wow... ancient greeks looked like that?
>>739125447Greeks are just Jews but even gayer (some how).
>>739125447He looks good in game desu
>>739125532>safe edgy incel attacking white peopleevery time
>>739125447Too brown so no
I look like that
Alexander was Macedonian, not Greek
>>739125447>Mary Beard explains that after Jan 6th, classicists were so embarrassed by the ‘far right’ embracing Greco-Roman civilization that they began pushing the idea ancient sculptures were painted in an ugly way to try to make classical history less appealing to ‘White supremacists.’
>>739125447They're whatever you want them to be so you can spam threads about how angry you are about it.
>>739125974Who
>>739125875>Macedonian ...a Greek tribe, correct.
>>739125685>jews>whitenice try schlomo
>>739125447Historical records describe him has having reddish hair, but I dunno, maybe the developers know more about it than people who saw Alexander in person.
>>739125532Even the modern day t*rk rape baby Greeks are whiter than you, Shlomo.
>>739125974Archeologists discovered traces of paint long before the January 6th fat people march.
>>739126246Why did you censor roach? Go back
There should be more Greek-focused strategy games. I feel like there are a million Rome sims but very few for Ancient Greece
>>739125447>Med guy looks MedWhat's the problem thoughbeit
>>739125447Alexander was described as blond and light of skinThis is a turkoid from near-jeetopia.This faggot looks like the filth Alexander conquered, and not like he really looked.
>>739125447>>739125532He wasn't gay, he had gay loves, but he was married to a woman and had a son, back then rich people had a gay lover but werent gay in the contemporary sense
>>739125875Don't google where Macedonia is
>>739126691That means you're gay.
>>739126712that's nuts
>>739126691>He was fucking dudes, but totally wasn't gay because he was married
>>739126691>i'm not gay, i have relationships with women and sex with menyou're possibly right, but only in the sense that he was at most bisexual, though the stigma at the time was really more centered around not producing a child, so he still might have been gay and only had a wife for the purpose of fulfilling his social and filial obligations
>>739125685White people killed homosexuals and tossed them into bogs.
>>739126840Women are for making childrenMen are for having sexThis is how Aristotle taught him
CIV VI Alex was better
>>739125447>haha some people I say I look Greek or Italian
>>739126948wrong
>>739125974>American educationI'm genuinely ashamed for you.
>>739127096We have mummified bodies dredged out of bogs that show signs of being hanged to death.
>>739125447
>>739125974>surprised that mary beard would say this since I read SPQR and it doesn't sound like her>look this up>you're quoting a tweet>the poster is named "romanhelmetguy", roman larping substack author>the tweet has a video attached but the text is almost entirely synthetic and does not come from the video>the video is actually her saying that classicists younger than herself feel embarrassed that classical stuff became associated with right wing larpers>says the unpainted statue aesthetic is a modern invention, which is true>merely states that most statues were painted as evidenced by microscopic residue, and it's debated how exactly they must've looked, which is all true>retweeter makes it sounds like some kind of conspiracy theory about fake paint >when called out in the replies he backtracks to "nobody said they weren't painted" and just reposts the same video that says nothing like what he said>another reply says "lol I thought your post was a joke but no, that’s literally what she says" when literally none of what he said is what she says>the rest of his account is the same political brainrot with the same repliesHoly hell man how do you even find this. Why did I even go looking for it. Why am I even posting about it. Fucking twitter, holy shit. How does anyone use this garbage, unreal. 4chan is a gold mine of quality content compared to this. Jesus christ
Aleksandar was Macedonian thoughever
They was black Africans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BH9HvZx3nI
>>739125974Why do they think that would make it less appealing to the far right?Do they think the far right are literal fetishists for the color white?
>Grease and Shklyavs arguing about Alexander not wanting to acknowledge that he was rightfully Illyrian
>>739127434>iron maiden >song is as long as a movie
>Civilization VIIOH NO NO NO
>>739126168>capitalized jew in >>739125532Nice try
>>739126571>This faggot looks like the filth Alexander conquered, and not like he really looked.>muh brown filth>when Alexander correctly saw the civilized urban cultures of the East as a greater prize than the backwards European west and north>when he styled himself as Shahanshah in the Persian manner, foreign to both the conservative Hellenic kingship of Macedonia and the more cosmopolitan oligarchy/aristocracy of Southern Greece >when he took an Iranian princess as his wife, encouraged his Greek soldiers to intermix with the easterners, and create a hybrid Hellenic-Persian cultureModern foreign racists trying to mutate Greco-Roman history to fit their LARP is embarrassing. They do it for their brand of Christianity as well.
>>739126691what a fucking run, it's still insane to see it on paper
>>739125447>>739125532>>739127323>>739125685modern greeks look like that. most modern greeks are swarthy/brown. ancient greeks we snow white and are not genetically related to modern greeks. it's easy to see how someone would get confused. It's like how Mark Anthony was white and Creaser and Augustus were turkish and Cleopatra was yugoslavian but modern italians are brown and mostly african>>739127323Alexander was from yugoslavia, not greece
>>739125447You can safely assume that all the people around the Mediterranean were brown.
>>739126246t. faggoledes of athenes
>>739125447Macedonians and Greeks in general referred to themselves as "Honey colored skinned", which is in contrast to darker Persians and Africans, and not the milk colored northernersWould they look full Turk? NoDid they have blonde hair? Yeah, sometimesBut anyone imagining them as Nordic Agarthian citizens is delusional
why dont blacks and nords have their own culture bros
>>739126571>Alexander was described as blond and light of skinwhere?
Decades of brits and burgers doing their classical-boo movies have done irrepairable damage to the perception of medeterenian people.Easterners think we're like the pale, blonde northerners and the mutts believe their own propaganda to the point of denying us our own history.
>>739127789That is the skin colour you have when you are white and are tanned from spending a lot of time in the sun.
>>739127789>can't tell the difference between a tan and tainted swarthoid genetics
>>739127332>>739125974yeah I was gonna say, I know for a fact we had arguments right here on /v/ about these shittastic "restorations" eight or nine years ago at least. I was here. maybe they were making them ugly on purpose but it certainly didn't have anything to do with Jan 6th which hadn't happened yet
>Mudhut-dwelling snowniggers kvetching that Mediterraneans don't look like them
Alexander was actually half-Chinese, his dad got cucked by a merchant from Wangcheng and was so ashamed that he wiped all mention of it from the historical record, that's why he was able to conquer so much land, by using ancient cultivation techniques stored in one's genetics.
>>739126174There were absolutely blue eyed and red haired Macedonians, because there is a trail of red haired, blue eyed descendents of his army that stretches from Greece, through Persia and into Afghanistan that still exists today
>>739126948And that's why they worship jews now, listen to jewish media, watch jewish made movies, follow jewish celebrities and jews own them, their cultures and their children. The greatest kike killer of history was a homo.
>>739127850They're white, yeah, and the pic in OP is clearly a white dude.>>739127852>and tainted swarthoid geneticsAnd live next door to Persians for thousands of years
>>739127672>Alexander was from yugoslavia, not greeceThat's interesting, because the guy in OP is supposed to be Alexander the Great.
Alexander was actually Black. When asked about his dark skin, he said he decided to be Black just to trigger gamers.
>>739128029Iron Age Denmark had no jews.
>>739127925The Kalash don't have any Greek ancestry, every modern genetic study confirms it, even if they claim they do.
>>739127889it's true, I was that chinaman
>>739127789Real Persians aren't dark especially not 2000+ years ago. This is what a pure blooded Persian looks like today.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iF2zO3JbVA
>>739126174The agenda here is particularly vile because modern greeks and macedonians look the way they do because of 400 years of rape, oppression and genocide by ottoman turks and their arabic pets. They didn't begin as a dark-skinned people but had that forced into their genome under imperialist domination by a foreign, ethnocidal race and its dogmatic supremacist religion.Trying to narrativize "greeks were always brown" is just trying to retroactively justify the unfathomably deep well of muslim crimes against the civilization and genetics of the west because it's politically inconvenient for modern europeans to look at the beasts among them and see their fangs.
>>739128225love that hair, manhope they win
>*confuses and enrages the armchair genealogist*
>>739128035>Greece next door to Persia Are you low iq or baiting also Greeks and Arabs literally describe Persians as pale skinned
Alexander was a Turk, i was there with him when he crossed the Hydaspes.
>>739128046modern yugos are also brown. Alexander was white.
>>739128328So Greek and other
>>739128382Unrionically greeks have lived in Ionia longer than turks have by a margin of thousands of years.
>>739128346Ah yes the brown people and then the person posting this is 100% white from India
None of you know jack shit about genealogy, history, or anything else that require intelligence. Talk about video games, you dog-fucking trannies.
>>739126948Where I'm from we supposedly did that to exclude people from reincarnation, believing the body's destruction was them moving on to a new life. I wonder if they bog buried gays because they misunderstood why kids with gay uncles would turn gay themselves later.
Oh look it’s another faggot face bait thread whites can’t tan so therefore you are brown and real Greek were actually black people and skin colour = race because my Jewish tranny Mexican mutt online said so
>>739128481You first, nigger
>>739127864>le mudhut>mail armor and the civilization that kind of tech implies was a Gaul invention the romans stoleanti white propaganda is gay and brown, schnoze
>>739126174"Historical records" aboit Alexander, especially his appearance, are mostly Greek historians writing down oral stories or just shit they heard hundreds of years after the fact. Even most books about Alexander go, "well the historians said Alexander fought with a spear sticking out of his head then did 50 jumping jacks, took a light nap, then continued marching into India but that probably didnt happen, so here's what likely did according to what we know of the area, some Greek sources minus the retarded shit, and Persian sources."According to "historical sources" Alexander has three completely different colors of hair depending on which source you look at.
>>739125447but he wasn't gaygreekhe was PVRE MAKEDONIAN BVLLvhg...
>>739127672Greeks are literally the Same people Greeks %0~5 SSADream on dirty Asian bastard.THE DNA OF THE INHABITANTS OF GREECE (by Aristotle University of Thessaloniki):"The Greeks at a rate of 100% are Caucasians (white). The contribution to the genetic makeup of the Greeks http://hellas2010.proboards.com/thread/44/updated-dna-inhabitants-greeceAdmixture analysis of world datasetGreek_D West_African 0%Palaeo_African 0%East_African 0%https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FTCC6UyauUeBhPrA9aHzr7DLEnVq5q-wnTsfpe2a9Jg/edit?pli=1#gid=24Dodecad v3: k=12 averagesGreek_DNeo_African 0%East_African 0,1% Northwest_African 0,5%Palaeo_African 0%
>>739125447Alexander inspired every evil man in history, like Hadrian, Napoleon and HitlerDisplaying him as middle easterner is a good thing if it leads to less fascists
>>739128693
Alexander the Great was actually a Native American chief of the Adena culture named Alakswanituk (pictured) who canoed over to Macedonia and was proclaimed king on the spot.
>>739128721Middle Eastern isn’t a thing bud it’s Anatolian farmer which most southern Europeans and Levant people are
>>739128721>
>>739128263You're actually retarded so let me effortpost for once.>Greece was heavily populated in the Neolithic and early Bronze Age, urbanized and developed (Minoans, Cycladeans etc.) thanks to proximity to Near East and Egypt>unlike the rest of Europe that suffered significant population replacement by Indo-Aryan migrations, that didn't happen in Greece, distinct Mycenean lineages for example are limited and they blended with the natives immediately>the Hellenic ethnogenesis in the Iron Age was a mix between the native Pelasgians, Leleges, Thracians etc. and Proto-Hellene IE speakers, which is why Greek is a distinct IE branch, it has a lot of pre-IE influence>the Hellenic world and culture expanded massively, first into Ionia, Anatolia, Thrace, and other colonies. All those people are considered Greek.>with Alexander this influence expanded even further, and under Rome, the East Mediterranean was firmly Hellenized>the largest influx on this population for the next thousand years was Slavs, migrating under the Byzantines, and assimilated. This funnily enough makes medieval and later Greeks "whiter" than Classical Greece by retarded /pol/ standards>modern Greece is a rump state of East Rome and thus contains a mix of what was once the Hellenic world, Balkanites, Anatolians, Roman era Ionians, Slavs, some Thracian, Levantine and Caucasus elements>there's negligible Turkic admixture in Greeks, Islamic conversions were one way. It was Asian Turks that turned themselves into Anatolians by converting and mixing with former Byzantine people
>>739127858I think the main reason they look garish is because they're not being made to look good, they're more interested in technical accuracy than artistry, so they're not concerned with getting tints exactly right or theorizing about undercoats and overcoats, etc.Frankly the people painting these are just not as talented as the original artists, which should come as little surprise, I can't fault them much for thatAnd the second reason is because they're not depicted in their natural setting. That looks garish just sitting there, but if it's in the middle of a painted temple or adorning a villa it might look very interesting.Third, I'd suggest that in the modern day bright and varied colors are easily available so they're considered gaudy and trashy, maybe back then the appearance of a vivid statue in many colors would leave people awestruck in a way that pleased whoever commissioned the statue.Still, whatever the colors were, it is undeniable that the ugly patterns are correct. The diamond pattern and lions look weird to us but that is exactly how it looked, it's visible on the unpainted statue itself pic related (lions are too)
>>739125875The Macedonian royalty is Greek and the Macedonians became Hellenized and spread Hellenism throughout the ancient world.
>>739126105Like calling the Portuguese a Spanish tribe.
>>739128645Anon in charge of being an absolute faggot making shit up he knows nothing about and didn't care to do even a cursors google search to fact check before posting.
>>739128693white is meaningless when Anatolians share very little ancestry with Western Europeans prior to about 2000 years ago. Greek Anatolian genetics cluster with other people from the region like Iranians and Macedonians"white" doesn't mean anything other than "thing I like vs thing I don't like", sorry
>>739125875Macedonians and Greeks are literally the same people genetically
>>739128639So the gauls were so retarded the couldn't even beat medGODS despite supposedly inventing """superior""" amor?Not looking good for "white peepo"
>>739128968Ok jeet nice dived and conquer tactics
>>739125532Ancient Greek were white. The mutts today living in Athens are not white, or Greek.
>>739128935Show me which of his generals and inner circle wrote about his appearance. I'll wait.
>>739128864The cute part of this post is the wall of completely irrelevant information made solely to mask the last line where you comically whitewash the turkish rape of greece and the balkans by just saying "nuh uh"
This cope is the same as all others muh whites can’t tan muh whites can’t have full lips muh whites can’t have curly hair you are purely jealous and coping about whites because they have the most diversity with out having admix from Asians blacks and browns meanwhile for us brown and black and Asians to look different we need european dna
>>739127332Ironically, the RETVRN people are among the multitudes of online-pickled brains that inhabit the modern day Plato's Cave.
>>739129037To be fair, at the time the gladius and shield were op as fuck and heavy cavalry wasnt really a thing
>>739129067>The mutts today living in Athens are not white, or Greek.Wtf are you even saying Greeks today are the same as ancient Greeks the only difference is some Greeks today have more Eastern European admix
>>739125447I mean greece is right next to turkey which is pretty much already the middle east. I don't see why you would expect them not to look like sand niggers
>>739128868>Frankly the people painting these are just not as talented as the original artists, which should come as little surprise, I can't fault them much for thatno but of course not, and that's what makes the whole stunt embarrassing. there are quotations about painted statues talking about those layering effects and we can't say what they looked like. but are we going to let that stop us? no, let's make this "exhibit" with the most naive possible assumptions about what it looked like, which we know are wrong, and then say "yeah this is what they ACTUALLY looked like!!!****" when you should have known full well that 90% of visitors and 99.9% of people reading about it online aren't going to come away with literally any impression other than, "wow that looks garish and awful. they look better unpainted, were the ancients tasteless and / or retarded?" it's the same shit every single time manthe diamonds and the lions aren't part of the problem at all
>>739125532>>739126948Have you never considered that the things you learned about Greek history might have propaganda to push for gay marriage?And that it actually wasn't like that?And that you were actually manipulated by the exact subversive people you purport to be against so it creates division amongst your kin?Just a thought.Think a little.
>>739129049divide what? the longstanding, genetically backed shared history of Germans and Greeks? the shared history that doesn't exist and never has? these are completely different clusters of ethnic groups that have nothing to do with each other prior to like 1 AD
>>739129240Too much moor blood in your veins.
Greeks have the highest rates of curly hair in Europe and have zero ssa admix how does that make you feel
>>739129259Anatolians dont even look middle eastern, they have white skin. Brown Turks are from emigration within the Ottoman empire
>>739129328>Greece >moorsAre you confused with history bud what moors ever invaded Greece ? Only Persians and Turkish people which again Turks are just Greeks but Muslims
>>739128263Years ago I would have thought this is a crazy take, but it harder to dissmiss it when they've started lying about things from my own lifetime let alone things that happened thousands of years ago.>Black people have always been common in the UK!I grew up in the south east and didn't see a black person outside of TV and movies until I was 21 years old.
>>739128461I'm not indian. there aren't any white people east of berlin or south of geneva >>739128693modern greeks descended from the turks. they are nonwhite. there are no white people east of berlin or south of geneva
>>739128225that IS dark Mohammad
>>739129425Turks are moors. They have the same blighted muslim blood. Islam is literally cancer to humanity, and you have too much of that blood today. Clean your genepool first. Too many turk mutts.
>>739128881The Macedonians were just Doric Greeks who instead of migrating southwards and becoming soft and urban and gay, they stayed in the north, and maintained older proto-Hellenic customs, like a monarchy, or more primitive Zeus worship at Dodona. That's why the Southern Greeks initially considered them barbaric, they only considered democracy-oligarchy-aristocracy-tyranny as civilized forms of government, monarchy was for barbarians. The Macedonian Greek language is known and it's a fully intelligible branch of Greek.
>>739129240>Greeks today are the same as ancient Greeksnope> the only difference is some Greeks today have more Eastern European admixeastern yuros aren't white either
>>739126691>I just fuck men, is not like Im marrying themThis cope will never stop being funny
>>739125447Which Yidsney movie is this faggot came from again?
>>739129438Turks are not a thing btw Turks today are just native Anatolians arermians and Greeks
>>739129356Anatolians are an Iranic, eastern Ethnic group, they aren't naturally dark but they're pretty low on the list of the whitest people on earth. they certainly have never been fair-featured
>>739129216The Gladius was actually an invention of Iberian tribes that Rome incorporated after fighting them in the 2nd Punic War.While Rome had its own technological innovations, the secret to its success was always in its willingness to borrow and incorporate technology and concepts from other cultures it encountered/fought. They borrowed the Spatha from the celtics, which became the prototype for the medieval longsword. They were crushed by Hannibal in no small part thanks to his numidian cavalry mercenaries, so they went out of their way to turn align and recruit the numidians, which formed the basis of future roman cavalry. They based the administration of their republic on the greek model, based the design of their ships on those they faced from Carthage, based their Cataphractarii around the Persian heavy cavalry that beat them at Carrhae.Rome basically never failed across its long history to learn from and adapt to innovations from its rivals.
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>>739129546Ah yes no one is actually white right everyones is brown and black and Asian white people don’t exist because 4chan currycel said so
Turkey is a blight on humanity and should be nuked until nothing is left. Save the animals first, though.
>>739125447Alexandsaar the Great
>>739128968>Anatolians share very little ancestry with Western Europeans prior to about 2000 years agoEEF, about 30-40% of your DNA, literally came from Anatolia.
>>739125447Doesn't civ 7 suck?
>>739129506Moor means Moroccan so no ? Muslim blood isn’t a thing btw it’s a religion
>>739129820>>739129506Your average white american female just thinks this guy is a little tan and sees nothing wrong with it.
>>739128881Portuguese are GaliciansGalicians and Castilians are both just Visigoth-Celtiberian-Roman muttsGalicians maybe have a bit of Suebi in them and that's it
>>739129806>>739125447Yeah why not?
>>739129820Your blood comes from the same mudhole all Islam comes from. Islam only rules by conquest. Your land was blighted with their blood.
>>739129773You don’t look like that jeet what’s with Indians thinking they look Europeans
>>739129143Because you don't know what "Turkish" actually means. They were Asians, Turkomans from the steppe, leftovers from the Seljuk and Mongol invasions of Anatolia. They forcibly converted and assimilated the formerly Greek speaking Byzantine provinces in Anatolia, which is why maybe one in a thousand Turks in Turkey actually has almond eyes these days because he came from some remote Turkoman village. The Ottomans did settle "Turks" in the Balkans but those were just Islamized and assimilated Anatolians and Albanians, literally the same people that would be speaking Greek and considered Roman a few centuries before. And they got brutally slaughtered and expelled anyway when those countries got independence based on language and religion, not ancestry.When mixed religion marriages happened, the children were always raised as Muslim Turks, which is why ancestry transfer was a one-way street, and why Ottoman Sultans were overwhelmingly Greek/Serbian/Albanian within a few generations.
>>739128881they spoke a dialect of greek. they had the same gods. they participated in the olympics. they were greek. sparta and athens were also highly distinct cultures but they were also both greek. you dumb mac bitch.
Wouldn't Greeks (and Romans) be tan as fuck? They spend like 99% of their time outside.
>>739129648>Anatolians are an IranicNo ?
>>739129613>turks are whiteis this the power of eastern yuropean genetic based racism?>>739129749I'm white. Americans are white. idk how you can say slavs are white when they never won a war and spent the better part of the last 225 years as russian rape slaves
>>739129886I mean there isn’t nothing wrong with it southern Europeans are white like other whites with tan or olive complexion not all whites are pink or pale
Islam is a brown religion.
>>739129978Yes, especially in the Mediterranean
>>739130041Russians are Slavic bud also america is 49% white lmao
>>739127056Most anons seem to think that this is what "modern" Greeks and (southern) Italians look like
>>739129902>>739130076Islam is white btw according to the Quran muhhmed was white
>>739130194Most anons don’t think that but anons who are jeets wish that was true and they looked like southern Europeans
>>739125447Ancient Greeks looked as brown as Palestinians. Even today Greeks look brown despite all the slav rapebabies.
>>739127925Those traits are mostly due to proto-(Indo-)Iranians, their descendants (Scythians etc) and other IE tribes from Central/Northern Asia like the Tocharians
>>739130272Jeets genuinely have body-dysmorphia at a cultural/societal level, they honestly and truly believe they're white and not just pakis
>>739129978Yes, we tan very easily and the sun is harsh, your skin tone is directly correlated with your sun exposure and job. >>739130205I like the caption>known descendant of the ProphetAs if Sayyid status isn't given out like candy. Or as if genetic contribution from 1500 years ago wouldn't statistically be 0.0%
>>739125447Alexander the Great was an absolute machine. He was not only one of the greatest generals of all time, but also a great warrior at the same time. That wasn't just propaganda. He was genuinely a total beast in battle and sometimes even the first to jump into action to motivate his troops to follow him.He also wasn't Greek, but an Ancient Macedonian. He did not look like ... this.
>>739130205M*hhmed was a goat fucker, rapist, murderer, slaver, coward and faggot. He's piss on the floor.
>>739130441Let me guess, he was blonde and pale? Prayed to Odin?
>>739128035>next door to Persians for thousands of yearsThere were, in fact, multiple nations/tribes (various Anatolians like Hittites/Luwians/Carians, Phrygians, Armenians, Assyrians, and so on) in between the two, just because the Persian empire ruled over many of them doesn't mean they were ethnically the same.
>>739126691https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8vzIRQLLM
>guy who conquered the world looks identical to the people who conquered it today
>>739128991looks like a greek>>739125447looks like a genetic turk. Turks faces all look similar like that. once you meet a few you will know, its like they are all cousins.
>>739130628Turks are Greeks bud
>>739125447What's wrong, looks like a typical Mediterranean guy
Why is this board in a permanent competition to prove everyone who achieved anything of note was part of the same genetic stratum?
>>739130724>Why is this board/pol/ refugee camps
>>739128693You're defining white to mean not sub-saharan african. That is absurd. Then that would make indians white. /pol/fags are so dishonest.
>>739130514It's a known fact he was blonde and possibly had heterochromia.>>7391307674chan has been /pol/ since the early 2010s.
>>739130116100% of all of the white people in the world live in the USA. it's why we've been to the moon and yurop can't put a man in space or invent the AC
>>739130194that is what greeks, eyetalans and slavs look like
>>739130724Because none of the people who insist on that offtopic shit have achieved anything of note themselves so they desperately try to piggyback off a maladjusted sense of racial identity
>>739129946>no you see the genocidal ethnic replacement policy that was focused and systematic didn't count because uhm actually...You're not making a strong argument here, especially since you clearly have no data to base these absurd claims on. The turks invaded anatolia as a migrating civilization, not just a royal family at the head of an army. They didn't conquer the region, they settled in it. They became a dominant demographic in Anatolia, and used the migration of other muslim races, namely the arabs and arabized persians of the middle east, as a means of ethnically replacing and "converting" conquered non-muslim territory, such as those of former byzantine rule.Under ottoman rule, islam was both an ethnic identity and a religious one. You did not "convert" to islam. Your women were taken as concubines and sex slaves and their children would be muslim because now they had turkish or arab blood. Through these genocidal policies the Ottoman empire forced significant demographic changes all throughout the middle east, nearly wiping out non-arab races in the region (including christian semites in the Levant).It's historical reality that the physical appearance, skin tones, language, culture religion and ethnic makeup of the people ranging from Morocco to Crimea to Croatia, and that european understanding of the ethnocidal nature of Ottoman occupation policy informed the vicious and fanatical resistance of various european states bordering it which eventually halted their expansion and precipitated their slow, terminal military decline.
>>739130906>It's a known fact he was blondeonly Aelian writing in 250's AD ever calls him xanthos. and even that doenst mean yellow haired but rather reddish brown or tawny.
>>739126174No, he clearly was supposed to look like a modern Indian.
>>739130990Be quiet, pajeet.
>>739130906>It's a known fact he was blonde and possibly had heterochromia.That's from the Alexander Romance, it's a novel.
>>739130441He was a great warrior. But he inherited the most disciplined and experienced army in the entire world at the time from his father. Phillip II was the great general. Without his successes there is no Alexander the Great, just Alexander thr Greek tribal king
>>739129438>>739129438Freaking hell.Are you stupid? When the Muslim Turks( the Seljuk and Oghuz Turks) invaded Roman Anatolia, plenty of Roman Greeks and some Roman Armenians fled westward trying to get into Constantinople and Greece. Plenty of Roman Armenians fled to Cilcia. Alexias Komnenos used the 1st Crusade to reconquer Western Anatolia. He later worked out an agreement with the Seljuk Turks of the Sultanate where more Greek-speaking Romans in Eastern Anatolia migrated to the Roman Western half of Anatolia. After his death, his son and grandson were recovering more and more of Anatolia until the disaster of Myriakephalon.Western Anatolia still had it's Greek-speaking population that remained largely Orthodox Christian. Same in Greece where the Greeks largely remained Orthodox Christian. Even after the fall of Constantinople and the Greeks and Armenians had to live under the oppression of the Ottoman Turks, they still remained Christian.Then there was the Greek War of Independence(the printing press helped) and some population exchanges but Ottoman Anatolia still had plenty of Christian Greeks and even Christian Armenians. That is until the Armenian and Greek genocides and ethnic cleansing. Many Greek refugees fled to Greece and the Armenian refugees fled to Armenia with the Ottoman Turks stealing their homes, similar to how modern day Israelis are stealing the homes of Palestinians.Greeks today are largely the same as the Greeks of the medieval era, with some Turkish genes from the Pecheneg Turks who converted to Christianity and became Romans during the middle 11th century. Modern day Turks in Turkiye have some Greek genetics, but that is primarily in Western Turkey since some Greeks converted to Islam or were descended from captured and enslaved Christians. Ottoman Turks were less likely to convert to Christianity since that would mean getting executed for leaving the Islamic religion.
>>739130768Stfu jeet subhuman
>>739130724If Alexander the Great was a black African I would want him depicted as a black African. Stop injecting politics into everything.
>>739128263if nordics were so advanced why their own countries were africa tier?
>>739130916Hahahaha
>>739131020Bro lay off chatgpt. It's just so obvious
>>739131020>The turks invaded anatolia as a migrating civilization, not just a royal family at the head of an army.False as shit. They invaded as a small elite and bred their Turkic genetics out via concubinage. Even their Turkmen origins are not the purest Turks, those would be the now-Kazakhs up north and they would have chinky eyes.
>>739129143>>739128263the "turkish rape" you're referring to results in conversions to Islam, whether that's automatic conversion of children from Muslim fathers, forced conversion of christian devshirme children by the state, or conversion under pressure from jizya. Converting away from Islam was considered apostasy and punished with death so it's one-way.Now as bad as that is, in the 20th century population swaps, Muslims were considered Turks and sent to Turkey, while Christians in Turkey were sent to Greece.So no, modern Greek people are not descended from anyone "raped" by Turks, but they are descended from Arvanites, Slavs, Bulgars, Goths, Dacians, Huns, Italians, Thracians, PIE descendants, etc. etc... and you know, greeksIf their fathers were Muslim, they wouldn't call themselves Greeks... they'd call themselves Turks.It's the Turks who assimilated, the people living there are mostly descended from existing Anatolian inhabitants or imported slaves, and there's very little turkic steppe ancestry left. Look up what Turkoman people look like. You're equating turkish with "brown" but turkic people aren't even brown to begin with. Nor were many of their descendants, look up what the Osmanoglu family looks like. "Turkish" is now more of a national identity than a genetic one. Of course that's also true for "greek" but to a lesser degree because Greece is simply smaller and more homogenous, while modern day Turkey covers areas that are or used to be majority Armenian, Iranic, etc. Even Celts migrated to Anatolia long ago, yes those Celts.
>>739131129You're not trying to get him correctly depicted though, you're trying to make him genetically closer to an Anglo than a Thracian, which is retarded and stupid.
>>739131173They sent their best down here to south europe and north africa
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>>739131125Whites are such copers. You're actually so insecure about your ancient history which is why you feel the need to appropriate Greek history. Pic related is white according to /pol/fags.
>>739130724autism and lack of personal accomplishments
>>739125685>greek >white they're just turkish rape babies
Alexander the Great has always been tanned brownish Chuds.
>>739128263Stop treating history like some hentai, the whole "mass Turkish rape" thing is not corroborated by any data - even non-Turkish Muslims in the Balkans have no or negligible actual Turkish ancestry. Which brings us to the question: If darker pigmentation in Southern Europe is due to Medieval and early Modern era mixing with Muslim invaders, why does it not correlate with their presence, instead of geography, UV radiation and the like? Why would natives of a Mediterranean climate not have a greater ability to tan, to shield them against the sun?>Trying to narrativize "greeks were always brown" is just trying to retroactively justify the unfathomably deep well of muslim crimes against the civilization and genetics of the westI would argue the opposite, you are giving way too much credit to Muslims and fostering irrational ideas, which leads to false aphorisms such as "everyone is ethnically/genetically the same", "you are mixed already, why not accept endless amounts of immigrants", "the Mediterranean sea is inhabited by basically the same people on all sides" etc. Not to mention that you are basically acting similar to Afrocentrist, just on a less extreme and "out there" way. Cultural legacy of Muslim rule might be why some parts of Europe exhibit more widespread day-to-day corruption and such, but evidence for a significant influx of Turkish/Arab/whatever admixture is simply not there
>>739131073I'm not a jeet, I'm white, retardo. greeks, eyetalians and slavs are indistinguishable from indians down to the lack of indoor plumbing>>739131117Didn't read, retard. Rome was founded by the Turkish Prince Aeneaus. Caeser was decended from Aeneasus and thus also a turk, retard>>739131187eastern yuros don't even have indoor plumbingyou can also tell they aren't white because like half of /pol/ and all of the no gunz threads on /k/ are made by eastern yuros
>tfw Greek with Kazakh girlfriendThis one's for you Alexios
This is a Turkic invader. If they came in hordes equalling local population, those eyes would persist in the population today, yet they're still more prevalent in fucking Finland than in any of Turkey.
>>739128639Gauls and Italics were related, by the way
>>739128841Anatolian Farmer ancestry is found at high levels all over Europe, just more so in the South
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>>739128881Rather like calling the Leonese a Spanish tribe
>>739131173>africa tier>pic is already above africa tier
>>739125974It's funny because it is known that classical antiquity was polychromatic since the Renaissance since we have contemporary descriptions. I don't know why "experts" act like they're dropping some massive nvkes with those statements, you learn that in grade school, you could maybe blow the mind of some barely literate nigger but then again those people aren't interested in ancient History nor care wherever dem fancy YT statues are supposed to have color or not
>>739125447Are we just going to ignore the fact that he BTFO the persians while being a manlet?
>>739131896>I don't know why "experts" act like they're dropping some massive nvkes with those statementsBecause certain people hate learning new things, or feeling like something they know is wrong or a field is more complex than what they thought as kids, and those people are very attracted to right wing policies because they claim to preserve things "as they were". They get mad over everything "they weren't taught like that in school" meaning fucking elementary school.Trump appointed a new head of NASA to change Pluto back into a planet. Because that's how it was back when I was in school, before those scientist propagandists changed it, because of woke.
>>739131430>>739131359Stfu jeet
>>739131748Palestinians have more of a claim to Ancient Greece than Brits or other northern euros a.k.a. whites
Why do so many legendary historical figures have really uneventful sometimes pitifully sad or hilarious deaths? Alexander didn't die in a glorious battle he literally just....hallucinated and had a fever for almost 2 weeks and then just died.
>>739129259When are people going to understand that being in "the Middle East" doesn't automatically make you a Bedouin? The geography, climate, history and genetics of Anatolia is quite different to that of the Arabian peninsula. Not all Caucasoids are either Nordics or Arabs
>>739132072Greeks are white >PalestiniansWtf is that it’s Israel
>>739131020>They became a dominant demographic in Anatolia, and used the migration of other muslim races, namely the arabs and arabized persians of the middle east, as a means of ethnically replacing and "converting" conquered non-muslim territory, such as those of former byzantine rule.No, that just didn't happen lol. For example, before the Seljuks half of Anatolia was majority Armenian. In the 20th century before the genocide it was still majority Armenian. Ironically the genociding only began in earnest after Arabic and Persian influence started losing to Turkish, and islam was sidelined by nationalism.As for the balkans you're getting it backwards. They didn't import arabs and persians to these christian lands. They imported white slavic and hellenic children from the balkans and caucasus BACK to the imperial center as devshirme, as a way of UNDERCUTTING muslim families' power, and bleached their whole upper class while they were at it.You're conflating modern mass migration from the middle east with history where it just wasn't happening. You'd better believe if there was some all consuming horde of muslims imported to Europe in the 13-18th centuries they'd proudly call themselves Turks and claim the tax benefits given to muslims, the later Turkish state would've claimed them as Turks, they'd have claimed the whole balkans as their rightful land by self-determination of peoples, and never shut up about it. They would not have peacefully assimilated and converted to Christianity and hidden their ancestry to become crypto-greeks, kek. It's not like the Moriscos in Spain, they had no reason to do this and it would've been heavily to their detriment
>>739132037>muh jeet muh jeet back /pol/ with you
>>739132156Palestinians and Jordanians are tied genetically to Canaanites, who split into both Phoenicians and early Jews
>>739131720>Look at this random image made by a fag (probably jew) of faggots. >That means all of them were faggots! That's like saying all Americans were faggots because some random moron found an ancient gay porno.
>>739126059Her book's one of the first to pop up when you want to learn about romans
>>739129506Moors are Northwest Africans, genetically unrelated to Turks
>>739131896>>739132018>>739125974Some modern repaints are ugly like the first on the left,thats what she meansAnyways nobody knows how the statues looked exactly you can only take a guess with what was left of the pigment, historical details and your own imagination
WHITES BUILT CLASSICAL AND MEDIEVAL CIVILIZATION. ALEXANDER WAS A WHITE PALE RED HAIRED GREEK OF NO BROWN DESCENT. WHITE NORTH LATINS BUILT ROME AND WAS CORRUPTED BY NAFRI-MOOR-PHOENICIAN BROWNS. CELTS AND GERMANICS WERE THE STURDIEST CIVILIZATIONS OUTSIDE OF ROME AND ACHIEVED VIGOUR AND VITALITY WITH NEAR PARITY CULTURAL DEPTH. ALL GOOD EMPERORS WERE NORTHERNERS AND LATINS, ALL SHITTY ONES WERE NAFRI BERBERS OR MUTTED GREEKS. MUSLIM SCIENCE WAS DIRECTED BY MIXED EX-ROMAN ELITE, THE MORE WHITE THE MORE THEY GOT DONE. WHITE MAN MARCHES ON. WHITE MAN MARCHES ON.
>>739132308>Woman historianLiterally discarded with no chance given.
>>739127889Zamn, he was a cultivator?
>>739132308>popsci nonsense yawnSpangler sucks too btw don't get it twisted
>>739132037You will never be Greek>>739132156If they are white then Palestinians are white and so are the Lebanese, Turks, Syrians. White is a political term that gets redefined whenever it's expedient to do so. We have a guy itt that claimed that white is anyone not black.
>>739132143Death is an ambush predat
>>739132308>unpacks the secrets of the city's successI'm sure she does.
>>739131964I'm not turkish, retardo. unlike the greeks and eyetalians I don't have a drop of turkish blood in me
>>739125447blonder. Look up Greeks in Anatolia, for some reason they're whiter than Greeks in Greece, weird phenomenon. Anyway makes me think ancient Greeks were definitely white.
>>739132143Statistics. The most common causes of death are random boring shit. Imagine how many people died randomly choking on food.Only sometimes does it work out in a way that forces things to be interesting, like how Qin Shi Huang may have died from mercury poisoning, which he could only give himself because he was a rich emperor with access to such precious "medicine"
>>739127332>that classicists younger than herself feel embarrassed that classical stuff became associated with right wing larpers
>>739130041>how you can say slavs are white when they never won a war and spent the better part of the last 225 yearsOh yeah, forget genetics and anthropology, whether you are white or not is determined by historical military achievements... Mongols are whiter than most Europeans, I guess
>>739132627 that's because TURKISH BVLLS bleached them
>>739132343Given the mastery and craftmanship, and considering greek autism when it comes to art it's retarded to believe people in antiquity didn't discover coloring and shading
>>739132369>WHITES BUILTWhites were basically Germs, Visigoths and other shit-tier tribal pagans who couldn't beat Medbvlls in a war pretty much ever. They only moved in once Christianity caught on and once they did they caused a Dark Age for several centuries because whites are just pillaging retards.
>>739132296>>739132072Philistines are believed to be descendants of Greek migrants, so yea
>>739130272Fair enough, I didn't specify those anons' ethnicity>Sanjeev Stalinlmao
>>739131201>>739131209>>739132160Notice how desperately Muslims cope, redirect, lie, insult or minimize history when confronted with it.Their Imam told them Islam was a religion of peace and their parents beat them for questioning it. Now they have nothing to do but desperately defend the lie that their supremacist dogma is built on. I would call this behaviour pathetic were it not so poisonous to public discourse that there are so many of you now so desperately combative to rewrite history and obfuscate the un-halal truth.
I liked this book
>>739132627That is pure cope. Ancient greeks were more brown than greeks today who are products of slavic rape.
>>739125875I mean, as far as Athenians aren't concerned, Macedonians were Greek. Wait, don't tell me you're actually talking about the monkeydonian larpers...
>>739132908>goldsworthyInstantly dismissed
>>739132897Are you American?
>>739132897dude you're the one arguing muslims must've taken all the european women and they're all secretly brown rapebabies. I don't think we're the ones shilling for islam here lol
>>739127672Ancient greeks were still swarthy and tan retard, the gods of olympus and their kin were white but they ruled over greece and weren't considered the same as them. Greeks were the original creators of civilization and they were all honey-skinned, fucking turks were whiter than them>>739128607Multiple races that you consider "dirty" have phomelanin-colored skin like the pakis, jews, arabs, syrians, greeks, hungarians, turks, mexicans etc etcYour chart is flawed because countries in close proximity mix and muddy the waters>>739131173No slaves, nordics were /diy/ and got rekt for several years because of it>>739132837It took a long time for whites to find an admixture that allowed them to conquer the world, anglos and saxons mixing was the best thing that ever happened to them
>>739131525There were no Turks in ancient Anatolia.
>ctrl-f "rape">1/10Have you considered that racial admixture could occur from intermarriage between groups, and that history isn't just a Conan the Barbarian novel?
>>739125532Democratic era greeks were gay, also they caused the fall of Greece
>>739132742>>739132343Some of these statues were on top of buildings and only seen from a distance.
>>739133114have you considered that your people belong in ovens?
>>739125447the fuckign cringe pixar art style in civ games always annoyed me
>>739133114No, that's woke bullshit. In real history all peoples were billiard balls that knocked each other around when migrating and whenever two of them touch there's a big genocidal war and the losers get raped like in a hentai game. I don't need a source and I refuse to explain.
>>739132440A-anon? Are you al
>>739132837Germanics who invaded Rome were small noble warbands that mixed into the already White population of Ibero-Romans, Gallo-Romans, and Italics. Notice how the Vandals, the only Germanic kingdom in North Africa, collapsed and disappeared more extremely than the other ones. A country only functions if the majority is genetically White already.
Let me guess, not a single post about Civilization series.
>>739132627ancient greeks were white, modern greeks are not white. >>739132661if slavs were genetically white, why did they spend the better part of the last 225 years in chains? why haven't they invented indoor plumbing?>>739133038ancient greeks were white, retardo>>739133107the city of troy, retard
>>739125447Looks greek to me
>>739131051>reddish brown or tawnyThat's rather "pyrros", but xanthos is also broader than the Nordic definition of "blond", including shades that would be considered light brown/ash brown. However, it is possible that the Germanic word "blond" initially referred to a more intermediate colour (dark blond/light brown)
>>739133274why would anyone post about civ in the reminding eastern yuro thirdies that they aren't white thread?
>>739132884Jordanians and Palestinians are not the descendant of Philistines, they're the descendant of Canaanites who were a distinct people from the PhilistinesThe Philistines are tied to the Sea Peoples
>>739133394>pyrrosthat would be orange or ginger.
>>739133184Thinking history was just rape and murder is the jewish perspective, jews love sensationalism, just look at the jewish bible.
>>739129259And Spain is next to Morocco, but the Strait of Gibraltar is still the sharpest genetic boundary in the world. Greeks had been colonizing Asia Minor for a while by Alexander's day but I do not think you'd find many of the straight up Arab-looking Greeks before the population exchange of the 1920s.
>>739126967EW! Gey.
>>739128868They don't look good because they FUCKING MADE UP THE COLORS. Yes, the statues were painted, but no, they were not high saturation clown show nonsense. We know this because there are surviving ancient frescos of the statues and EVEN IN THESE PAINTINGS the statues are white except for the clothes and hair.
>>739127636Didn't read SEX WITH YANFEI
>>739133320Lemme guess, it came to you in a dream?Fucking cotton swabs and genetic testing exist today, a one-hundred percent greek man will look brown.
>>739133320>if slavs were genetically white, why did they spend the better part of the last 225 years in chains? why haven't they invented indoor plumbing?not all slavs were enslaved you retard, when was some massive slavic emancipation or exodus then? And didn't you brownoids lose balkans to them?
>>739128881When are you annexing southern northern Macedonia anon?
>>739125875Either masturbate or american>>739127925american
Why are mutt christians so obsessed with believing they're the nicest most tolerant people in the world and literally everyone else Europeans (not even themselves) colonized was child raping psychopaths?
>>739133697Ancient greeks hadn't yet been conquered and raped by subhuman muslims
>>739132018>Trump appointed a new head of NASA to change Pluto back into a planetBased.
>>739125974>zoomer thinks "greco-roman statues were garishly painted" came after Jan 6, 2021Fucking grim.
>>739126059Woke revisionist "historian"
>>739133748>Why are *insane schizophrenic brown retard babble*I truly hope someone with a lower IQ than me gives you a reply.
Culture war really broke a lot of people, huh
>>739133786>conquered and raped by subhuman muslimsThe islamized and forcibly converted Anatolians and Armenians that had been part of Greek Byzantium for a thousand years?
>>739133748Raised on jewish media like the Bible or Game of Thrones.
>>739132627There are barely any Greeks left in Anatolia after the population exchange, what do you base your claim of them being "whiter" than Greeks of Greece on?
>>739125875>>739126105The funny thing is, some Macedonians were actually pretty eager to be accepted as Greeks, but not ever Greek was so obliging. It's really funny to definitely state they were Greeks as if you're some Macedonian court scribe creating propaganda for his sovereign.
>ITT: muzzies and mutts trying to claim the greek lineage is more diluted than their favela shitholes
>actually brown people were the gay boyfuckers, Chud!
>>739133184How many women have you raped?
>>739133915'fraid so.
The "Turks slaughtered and bred out Anatolians" narrative isn't even an anti-Muslim narrative, it's something Turkish chuds themselves propagate to feel good about themselves and pretend they aren't just descendants of pure Byzantine Greeks LARPing as caliphal warriors. It's Western colonial academia that figured out later the Ottomans assimilated most of the locals because no pre-industrial empire would wipe out a tax base let alone to replace them with nomadic steppe retards and their sex slaves.
>>739133464Given how ubiquitously it was applied, including reddish shades of (light) brown makes more sense. Also, it makes more sense to group red with reddish brown and yellow with yellow-brown rather than red/orange alone and everything else together
>>739134229Many such cases.
>>739133697yeah modern greeks are brown. no one is saying modern greeks aren't brown. ancient greeks were white. modern and ancient greeks aren't related>>739133709I'm white. the balkins are 100% brown. there isn't a single white person in the balkins. the slavs were all enslaved by the russians
>>739134175hahaha
>>739133786/pol/fags do not know anything about history. Modern greeks are more white thanks to slavic admixture
>>739133748Extermination of conquered people through the elimination/enslavement of the male population (often with castration to prevent them breeding and carrying on their race) and systematic rape of the women was standard cultural practice across the world until the expansion of Christianity in Europe more or less ended the practice. Not because Christians were so nice, but because genocide is inherently destabilizing. The practice continued in the Muslim world literally until the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1919, and was also carried out by Christian Spaniards against non-christians in the new world as late as the 17th century. Though we know via historical records that the Spaniards adopted these practices in retaliation against well documented Moorish genocidal practices, and they were largely an exception within Christian Europe.Unlike Islam, Christianity considers any rave able to convert to Christianity and considers such conversion itself a moral good. Islam pacified non Islamic population via genocide exclusively and did not consider those born of non-Muslim races to be human. Other means of coexistence, such as kidnapping Christian babies to raise as expendable child soldier, were only resorted to when outright genocide failed.
>>739132018>Trump appointed a new head of NASA to change Pluto back into a planet. Because that's how it was back when I was in school, before those scientist propagandists changed it, because of woke.that's fucking based though, troon
>>739134175>everything good in history is heckin' white!>who is white? whoever I and my "Aryan" "academics" decide this weekFuck off retard. You are desperate to claim Hellenic succession, but Greece and Rome endured in the East, and the Greek people endured to this day, and it ruins your based racist narrative.
>>739125532ancient macedonian greeks were white>>739133114brother the muslims themselves wrote about killing the adult males and castrating juveniles in their conquests, their entire theological worldview is about rape
I hope you guys do realise only Scandinavians are white right?
>>739134449This is almost correct, you just have to literally swap Christians with Muslims for everything
>>739134661Only English people are white. Scots are half-white.
>>739134690>Unironic religion of peacepostingHoly kek
>>739134449>>739134559>bro the fuarking mudslimes RAPED and IMPREGNATED and CASTRATED everyone it's like my Japanese fantasy hentaiCoptic and Hellenistic Egypt got Arabized and converted with barely any actual Arab admixture, the only major shift was importing more Sudanese slaves.Same as the Arabized Muslims in North Africa are not genetically distinct from the Amazigh. Those that lived in cities adopted the new ruling language and the nomads didn't. Arab admixture in their caliphate is funnily enough limited to Bedouin nomads that went to live in the ass end of nowhere wastelands.
>>739126174The Historical records aren't consistent at all and written 100+ years after his death.
>history was just warriors and rapists broooo!Jewish or Hindu, call it.
>>739128029>500k kikes>greatest killer in historylol lmao
>>739134753Religion of intelligent strategy more like.
>>739125875Macedonian is a cool word..
>>7391339154chinz are just retarded nobodies.
>>739134387>there isn't a single white person in the balkinstrue that, Greeks are balkanoids as well
>>739134885It's ancient Greek for "tall"
I'm Jewish and you all can suck my circumcised cock. Oh what am I saying you already do, your tax money funds Israel's holocaust of palesstinians lol
>>739127627>Capitalized N!!!Show hand now!Do you have the pass?!
>>739131525greeks? definitely. southern italians? some of them, sure, i can understand that. slavs? not in the fucking least. you have clearly never been to eastern europe. slavs aren't gypsies.
>>739134767Lmao dude there is no Egyptian DNA left in Egypt. They are completely muttified Muslim soup with predominantly Arab genealogy. You are the squatters in the corpse of empires that achieved greatness and perished while your ancestors still wandered the desert.
>>739133929Turk lies
>"white civilization">look inside>jewish leaders, vassal states, usury, child murder
>>739134449>Extermination of conquered people through the elimination/enslavement of the male population (often with castration to prevent them breeding and carrying on their race) and systematic rape of the women was standard cultural practice across the world until the expansion of Christianity in Europe more or less ended the practice. Not because Christians were so nice, but because genocide is inherently destabilizing. I can see you are extending your revisionism to full-scale retardation beyond the scope of even Islam>Islam pacified non Islamic population via genocide exclusivelyNo, they did not. The caliphate would have lasted ten years max and never come back if it tried>and did not consider those born of non-Muslim races to be humanNo, they did not, though they did not think highly of blacks, they assigned a human quality even to everyone they enslaved
>>739134885Fun fact, the C is actually pronounced like K.
What causes this titanic amount of seethe from so many people of all ethnicities about the Greek civilization? I mean, for all the "muh men will think about the Roman Empire everyday", you never see that amount of shitposting about Romans -> Italians. At most that their emperors were like PVRE NORD coming from WE WUZ snowniggers. I get that the Greek (Hellenic) civilization was historically the most important European one and not only, but it still seems so weird all this polemic about it.But the moment you mention anything about ancient Greece, everyone turns into their own frenzy.All sorts of weirdos will invent all kinds of shit around the Greeks and whatever they produced to promote either their agenda, or seek to diminish its significance out of spite (they were magically all gay, they were/are shitskins, they were Slavs millennia before Slavs appeared in the Balkans, democracy ACKCHYUALLY sucks ass, etc). I think it must be the most "rent-free" civ out there. Or at least in the Western world. I guess success breeds jealousy?
>>739125875The makedons are basically just Greek rednecks. Are rednecks located in the USA a part of the USA even though their language and culture stand out enough to be made fun of?
It's always fun to watch Americans jump into a frenzy over Islam. They come into a show near the end of its run and act like they were there for all of it.
>>739135061Thats not true at all.
>>739132143>be alexander>be so good at battle and war its impossible for you to lose>"why he no die it battle? how sad"retard, he'd have to have committed suicide to have died in battle.
>>739135152Whites really dont want to admit that the cornerstone of their civilization was a bunch of swarthy little guys. It's the same way they would call Jesus "nigger" if he actually existed today. Whites owe their civilization, religion, art, science and most things to non-whites but they are an ungrateful people much like when they were Germs and Visigoths, running around the mainland Europe being retarded violent barbarians. They'll continue to think this even when middle America, Australia, South Africa and other white places without much non-white culture all devolve into the same white trash whose invents are limited to shit like Cheese Wizz and Insane Clown Posse.
>>739135152Blame the Anglos, they've done nothing but appropriate Greek culture for a billion things and pretended Greeks looked like them. In fact you could probably blame Anglos for a lot more about the world today.
>>739135061Modern Egypt is ~80% consistent with the Old Kingdom populations, there's a small shift to Levant population and a bigger ~15% shift to sub Saharan Nubian and Nilotic people. The Copt Christians that never converted language or religion are genetically not different from their Arab speaking Muslim Egyptian neighbors.>You are the squattersI'm Greek, retard. Learn actual history and not /pol/ and xitter memes.
>>739135275can you eurocucks just die off already
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>>739135384>he's actually AmericanHoly kek I was just kidding. Explains a lot of the thread thoughever.
>>739135375>I'm Greek, retard.You're Turkish.
>>739134814This was already blown open earlier this very thread. The records we rely on were written based on and directly cite contemporary records.We have fragments of these contemporary records from people within Alexander's inner circle that corroborate what's written in the later records that cite them. There's no reasonable basis to doubt what reliable historical records say, just idiots that conflate them with much later mythological texts like the Shahnameh.
>>739135152Classical civilizations were woven into the founding myths of many nations in the early modern period and the 19th century. The tradition of greco-roman larping is long and embarrassing. Modern nationalists simply revive the same concepts in a new and even more cringeworthy way. Today you have a white statue pfp (location: india) posting about how we must retvrn to monke and save the white race, yesteryear you had John Bull, Esq repeating credulously how Britannia was founded by descendants of Aeneas and London's original name was Troia Nova.
>>739135529Even Turkey isn't "turkish" you actual retard.
>>739134954yes and modern greeks are not white>>739135031>>739135031then why don't they have indoor plumbing?
>>739135529The inhabitants of Turkey are my cousins from East Rome, unfortunately converted and larping as steppe raiders.
>>739125447He was actually of Macedonian descent
>nero killed his wife (pregnant btw) so he could spend every single day fucking the most attractive greek he could find in that godforsaken peninsula of femboys and emasculated sissies>to remain attractive to the young emperor, sporus cut off his own penis and worked with gymnasts to trim his body down to fit in an empress dress>was so attractive that after the praetorians praetorian'd nero, the head of the praetorians tried to marry sporus and rename him poppea (nero's dead wife's name)>the praetorian got praetorian'd>sporus, the most attractive femboy the civilized world had ever seen fled to meet Otho and spread his asscheeks for him, which Otho accepted as was the right of the roman emperor>killed himself a month later>some guy I dont remember the name of became emperor and wanted to force sporus to participate in some gladatorial play of a greek myth called the "rape of some chick in the underworld idk">the world wept, and even romans grieved hearing the news that sporus had killed xerself to avoid the humiliation>btw all of this happened in the same year
Burgers like to believe they're some sort of hero race who have managed to identify the correct things about "the West" to protect from "Islamic hordes" and admonish "the modern West" for failing to stand up for itself against every civilization. Conveniently the level of evil in each of these hordes is proportionate to how much they threaten Israel. But it's okay, I guess it's just a coincidence.
hey /v/ check this retarded EU5 run where you turn Trapezous into a Turkish beylik and can stack Ottoman + Trapezuntine + Byzantine + SPQR reforms and events.Well done Johan!
>>739135713Burgers are larpers.
>>739135713correction>Burgers ARE a hero race who have managed to identify the correct things about "the West" to protect from "Islamic hordes" and admonish "the modern West" for failing to stand up for itself against every civilization.
>>739135529>t. Mehmet Dimitroglu
>>739135773>hey lookit muh vidja gaem!Fuck off nigger
>>739135713>>739135275>>739133748>thread about alexander the great>[...]>Burgers like to believe they're...Why does this happen every single time? kek
Ancient Greeks looked like Indians. Modern Greeks have Slav DNA
>>739135676Didnt trajan also fuck greek twinks?
>>739135713Yeah this, whenever a mutt has a big mouth about Islam just remind them that Turdgay, one of the greatest persecutors and terrorizers of Christianity both historically and contemporary, are NATO allies and Trump cant stop sucking Erdogs cock (Erdog is literary associated with the muslim brotherhood and responsible for sending shitskins into Europe and committing ethnic cleansing against Armenians). But Erdog is a shabbos goy so its ok.
I'm BLACK like all ancient Greeks, european civilization was held by BBC, the ebony pillars in the sea of barbarians
>>739136017>Turkchad, one of the greatest persecutors and terrorizers of Christianity both historically and contemporarybased
>>739135713>who have managed to identify the correct things about "the West"This is Straussian ideology btw. They believe that "civilization" is split between "Athens" (reason, science, philosophy) and "Jerusalem" (revelation, prophecy, Jewish shit) and that America is the divinely ordained peak civilization that combined those two to be the Judeo-Christian-Roman-Greek superpower.This fanfiction is the current national myth of the American Christian Zionist right wing and fuels think tanks like the Claremont Institute. Look it up on Youtube or something.
>eurocucks ACTUALLY believe muslims didn't kill off locals en masse and ackshaully built SCIENCE and MATH and ASTRONOMY and shieeeet>assyrians egyptians and anatolians are totally still around!!! they just learned to speak arab now!! muslims are the religion of peace <3>please don't help us, I need ahmed to rape my sister for the greater good
>>739130670As a Turk this makes me so happy. BWC entering our women and lightening our gene pool. This is beautiful. Please keep fucking our women European men
>>739136098>assyrians egyptians and anatolians are totally still around!!! they just learned to speak arab now!!This but unironically. Peninsular Arab (the original Muslims) admixture in all those regions is small.
>>739135962You know how you can walk into a town you don't belong to and look similar to the locals but every other fool can tell you aren't one of them?
>>739136172>our gene poollol those kids are staying in Germany, only thing going into your gene pool are kurds and syrians lmao
>>739136219Assyrians still exist, they're very white, one of those groups
>>739136098Americans believe Jews invented everything and worshiping them like direct descendants of God will get them into Jewish Heaven.
>>739125447>getting for free what i would not even pirateJust go for Civ 8.
>>739136219>they are still around>they just speak some disgusting pig language now, worship the false prophet and have nothing in common with us at all anymore when the east was once an integral part of European civilization.
>>739136291The whole reason we know white is a shitty arbitrary measure is because you retards keep changing what it means based on who you're fighting
>>739133320The ancient city of Troy was built by ancient Western Anatolians and are linked to Greco-Roman mythology and not Turkish mythology. Turks only appeared in Anatolia during the 11th century A.D. Your Turkish mythology is about "liberating" Anatolians from Roman rule when actually your Muslim Turkish ancestors did no such "liberating" but destroyed the economic livelihoods of the Christian Anatolians by destroying their farms, vineyards and livestock when they weren't looting, pillaging or enslaving the Christian Anatolians.
>>739136172nigga put some effort into your falseflagging what is this
>>739125447Greek people are Turks which in turn are Arabs, so yes.
>>739136396That's pretty white by middle eastern standards, same phenomenon exists with Palestinians, occasionally they'll look quite white
>>739136432For most part turks were hired mercenaries for the Abbasid and other arab polities.
What will the cope be when European fizzles out and becomes a brown muslim replica of Turkey while places like India, Greece and Macedonia remain the same empires they have been for thousands of years? And eastern Europe is again back to just Slavic men killing each other in open fields? Will they even understand?
>>739136219>>739136227Jews contributed most of the achievements attributed to "Islamic science" btw>>739136308Uh oh that's a wrongthink. Enjoy prison rape by nafris, Pierre... or is it Pedro, or Hans, or Giovanni, or Harry, or...>>739136396Civilization is very easy to measure, as is barbarism
>>739136357>when the east was once an integral part of European civilization.>Assyria is "Europe"the we wuz kangz Black Israelites are at least funny at larping, as if pilfering Greek history then discarding us wasn't enough
>>739136727Who the fuck is "us"?
>>739136613Greece is a fourth world shithole
>>739133748>Why are mutt christians so obsessed with believing they're the nicest most tolerant people in the world and literally everyone else Europeans (not even themselves) colonized was child raping psychopaths?Because mutt christians ACTUALLY raped and exterminated an entire continent into oblivion and to cope with the shame insist that their enemies must have done it as well because the alternative would be admitting that even muslims were less sadistically genocidal than their benevolent judeo-christian civilization.
>>739136776Blacks. We were the original Meds.
>>739136613Western and Northern Europe show sustained sub-replacement fertility among native populations (typically 1.3–1.8 TFR), combined with net immigration dominated by Middle Eastern, North African, sub-Saharan African, and South Asian sources. UN and Eurostat projections (medium variant) indicate foreign-born or second-generation shares rising sharply in France, UK, Sweden, Germany, and Benelux by 2050–2100; some urban areas already exceed 30–50% non-European ancestry under broad definitions. Muslim populations grow faster via fertility (though converging downward) and chain migration; Pew Research estimates 7–14% Muslim by 2050 under high-migration scenarios, with localized majorities in some cities. Parallel societies, higher welfare usage in some immigrant cohorts, and elevated crime rates in specific groups (e.g., Swedish, Danish, French official statistics on origin and offending) are documented, alongside polling on attitudes toward secularism, gender, and integration (e.g., significant minorities favoring Sharia elements in UK/France surveys).
>>739136776I'm Greek, duh.
>1234567890. Oh look at these INDO-ARABIC NUMERALS. They're so enriched with INDO-ARABIC culture and intelligence. We need to ENRICH our countries with this diversity. Time to import one billion shitskins and DEFEND brown """civilization""" from the world's greatest country while our own sisters are being raped and ran over
>>739128645>>739134814>>739129140>The historical records aren't 100% accurate>this means our vendetta about turning everyone into a nigger is correct!you're just retarded.
do I look Greek /v/?
>>739127821in Yu-Gi-Oh
>>739136896>vendetta about turning everyone into a nigger is correct!>>739128991
>>739136396The Levant use to be light skinned and looked similar to Southern Europeans before Arabs who looked like this raped everyone
At least the Greeks got further into Persia with swords led by an alcoholic, than a certain country is doing now with the most advanced military in human history.
>>739133748Theres a reason why entirety of Americas and large parts of Africa are christian and people under Ottoman rule kept their identity. Historical revisionism is their cope.
>>739137004If you think this >>739128991Is the same as this >>739125447You're blind AND retarded.
>>739136815Johnny Depp?
So let me get the tenets of Neonazism with /pol/-xitter Characteristics down correctly>people I want to defend in this moment = Aryan, White>people it is convenient to hate right now = subhuman shitskins>everything good in history = made by White Aryans>everything bad in history = kikes and untermensch>every civilizational downturn in history = raped by subhuman BBC Damn, no wonder their ranks are swelling with bright motivated Filipino and Pakistani white supremacist. They might as well be white too.
>>739137049isn't that arabic LARP about wewuz genociders and shiet?
>>739137049You know usually with non-whites I have a hard time distinguishing facial features, but I can kind of see distinct patterns in this crowd.
>>739125447Modern greeks still look like that
>>739134206Thousands. I rape them with my objectifying male gaze.
>>739131874Barely, nothing in that photo suggests an exceptional understanding of mathematics or materials science.
>>739137084>Ottoman rule kept their identity.Lol so you could use them as child soldiers and tax mules.
>>739137049Yes, yes, how sad. Very convenient that this theory suggests that the only people left alive to kill all these invaders and repopulate the region with "original" inhabitants is America's closest ally. But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
>>739135384this>>739136432Troy is in turkey. the trojans were turks
>>739125532>adds for free>jewsnice try
>>739137290Actually they were Africans, get your facts right bigot.
>>739137290>the trojans were turksactually how Mehmed II LARPed, he said he avenged Troy when he BTFO'd Byzantium
>>739137170This is a more classic American neoconservative Christian Zionist chud. A rarer vintage.
>>739134814but what some fat feminist dei hire says 2,348 years after his death are?
>>739127583Civ 4 beyond the sword is so good, the scenarios were peak
>>739135576>There's no reasonable basis to doubt what reliable historical records sayNone of them are reliable and they don't agree with each other.
>>739129270>>739133561t. unemployed highschool dropouts who somehow know more about greek history than people who dedicate their lives to studying it
>>739137359lol, what a retard
>>739137195Helped by the fact that Arabs are a caucasoid race.
>>739137273Based. Middle East will be turned White. BWC's are hot and ready to impregnate Muslima Hoejabis, the cum will flow. Browns will be washed with gallons of hot White cum until their skin is clean and White
>>739137273Copts and Syriacs can join the fun too.
>>739137375Their guess is as good as any
>>739137441feet
>>739130041>how you can say slavs are white when they never won a warTimmies lost against Rvssian bvlls in 1945 and their women opened their legs up to superior slavbvlls>inb4 muh lend lease copeThey would have won regardless
>>739137441>whole discussion is just some american trying to indulge in his raceplay fetishban the entire anglosphere
>>739135880I'm sorry, I am a g*mer
>>739125447it's amazing how average westoid unironically thinks ancient greeks were some nordic looking fucks, when literally every scultpure and painting portrayed them as curly haired and big nose bridged, which is the norm for the region. Hollywood slop really does rot the westoid mindsome ancient greek writers described some of their heroes as super saiyans with fiery or golden hair, but even fucking china and middle eastern writers did that. Also there are a few blonde haired greeks, just like how there are a few blonde haired turks, persians or palestinians, that's normal, it just gets less common the southern you move.the whole idea of "races" existing is so fucking burned into the westoid mind, the idea that people simply have gradually changing features as you move into other climates sounds like some crazy theory to them, that the more you move into a region with stronger sun you will simply have natives with more tanned skin or curlier or darker hair from melanin, or with different air humidity you will have different nose shapes, etc. and that that's fucking it, that there is no secret chosen race shit behind how people look
>>739135375>The Copt Christians that never converted language or religion are genetically not different from their Arab speaking Muslim Egyptian neighborsThey are, actually, not immensely so, but still, Muslims are more mixed with other elements (such as Sub-Saharan African).
>>739137408>study your whole life>still get it wrong because of modernist brainworms infesting your mindShameful really
>>739137580you're brown
>>739137580Hans Günther raped a lot of brains with absolute bullshit.
>>739137553wait, so now russians are slavs and the saviors of the white race? based, let's go russia, take over easten yurop and cut off their internet>>739137408>>739133561>>739129270>>739128868Do you have any data or paper about this? Wouldn't the chemical analysis be able to tell what color dyes/paints they used?
>>739137470Israel regularly bombs Syriac christian churches and schools in Lebanon and Palestine, but you knew that, Shekelgruber.
>>739137580Blame the retards from the early 19th century and the abuse of Darwin.
>>739137580>the idea that people simply have gradually changing features as you move into other climates sounds like some crazy theory to themThe West discovered and taught that fact before anyone else. You are on a neo nazi website the opinions here don't matter.
>>739137580>genetics aren't real goyim
>>739137692>"""Syriac""">"""christian"""
>>739137441Nice feet
>>739135371>muh whites bad, SOuthern EUropeans are conveniently placed in some "non-white" category along with Africans and whatnotYeah, sure. Jesus likely looked broadly "Mediterranean", i.e. Caucasoid, not Negroid as you are insinuating, and so were Mesopotamians, Phoenicians, Persians, Egyptians. >middle America, Australia, South Africa and other white places without much non-white cultureYour idea of "white places without much non-white culture" are all located far from Europe and are inhabited by multiple races, yeah, that makes perfect sense.
>>739137829You have no idea what genetics means, even twins (actual genetic clones) have diverging genetic markers after a few years.
>>739137503>>739137887Its a man.
>>739127571>mindbroke zoomie cant focus longer than two minutesNothing new here
>>739137949Nice feet for a man
>>739137580Germans started the larp in the 18th century and this lie that Greeks are pale skinned blued eyed hyperboreans is perpetuated even by liberal academics today. I think it's because whites feel like they have nothing to be proud of from the ancient past if they let go of Greek history.
>>739137580If race isn’t real its weird that people naturally segregate themselves among racial lines when given the freedom to do so you think that wouldn’t happen
>>739137937Not confirmed to be Alexander.
>>739137643I'm v4fag (You) are a retarded little worm groomed by epstein requested cesspools like /pol/ where they brew their ""redpilled"" controlled oppositions
>>739137676>wait, so now russians are slavs and the saviors of the white race?Yup, they eradicated Shitler and his anti-white cronies who wanted to genocide whites in Europe
>vgh... ancient Hellas... we are your trve continuation...>all those great ancient statesmen and philosophers, all looked like me...>but those Greeks that are still around are too Oriental, surely, they aren't the same people... they must have been raped and degenerated!1200 years since that Frankish chieftain Karl was crowned "Roman" Emperor and the collective West still hates the Greeks for existing in the real world and not as mythical elves in their fairytales of the past.
>>739138101>>739138102you're all brown
>>739138101>I am *some zoomer gibberish*You are brown.
>>739138041>If race isn’t real its weird that people naturally segregate themselves among racial linesThey don't, they segregate among even smaller lines, usually ethnic or tribal and the same race fights among itself along these lines, it's just that all Americans are mutts and have no ethnicity so they cling on this "white" identity or "race" as they've lost their Irish, German, English, Norwegian, etc. ethnic identity
>>739138159>>739138174Excellent argument
>>739136396They don't have Negroid or Mongoloid admixture, they are local Near Eastern Caucasoids
>>739138041The wold isn't an American prison friendo, people do segregate and it's usually along linguistic/cultural/economic lines.Tiger Wood will get all the upper class white pussy he wants because he's on the same line as them, you however will get some mexican immigrant day laborer's daughter, if your lucky, because that's your economic/cultural baseline.
>>739138268https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
>>739138298Shalom!
>>739136009It was Hadrian, not Trajan that had a harem of greek boy emergency onaholes actually. He started a cult in a newfound city to one of his gay greek boys called antinious
>>739138268I mean what else would you call someone whose 1/4 Irish 1/4 Scottish 1/4 French and 1/4 Norwegian?
>>739127035Cleo too
>>739138396Epstein literally agrees that the media push the race shit to distract from economic inequality though?
for a board that makes fun of liberal developers for being obsessed with race, you fags don't seem to be doing much better in that department
>>739137580SAAR
>>739138396Go get 'em tiger, chase that Juanita, it's your best (well, only really, unless you're into Floridian methheads) shot at getting laid.
>>739138467Whats your point?
>>739138437sloppa, but I do like the idea
>>739138502For whining so much about population replacement, a good 50% of every board has been colonized by /pol/tards. Thankfully good posters without a stick up their ass still exist, it's the only game in town.
>>739138102what whites did hitler kill? he only killed jews, gypsies, the retarded, homos and slavs. I don't think he killed any whites
>>739137195Maybe you are used to "non-whites" who are a mix of various races, tribal Arabians are quite homogenous
>>739138298If that Mexican girl came home with a blond hair blue eyed boyfriend her entirely family will celebrate. It’s why Mexican media is filled with fair skinned celebrities despite the country as a whole being more swarthy on average.
>>739138437brown sexo but makes no sense, she should look like a Greek woman that spent her entire life indoors. Why games don't use Hatshepsut instead I have no clue.
>>739138420a degenerate
Greeks and Romans are probably the most successful instance of total colonization. Because they essentially dismantled every single form of actual European culture to the point that white people still think Roman/Greek culture = white culture.
>>739138601>he only killed jewsI thought you nazitrannies said the holocaust never happened?
This is one of the worst threads I've ever seen on /v/ (that's saying a lot). You subhuman retards really should kill yourselves.
>>739138729>nazitrannieslmao mindbroken
>>739138437>>739138687
>>739137273It is not a secret that Arab expansion into the Levant was mainly driven by Islam, nor the fact that both the universalist nature of the Islamic Ummah and the way tribal descent and ethnic belonging is determined solely on the direct paternal line has led to Muslim populations of the Levant being more mixed than religious minorities
>>739138613Errr, depends, if they were middle class and that "white" person was a a trailer trash bum, they'd sick the dogs on him.
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>>739137676Hitler literally wanted to genocide most blonde haired white people so germans can colonize their land. That was literally his biggest objective. And he did manage to kill 27 million soviets using utterly immoral warcriminal tacticshe was a german ultra-nationalist who only cared about german "interests", not some "white race savior" how so fucking many retards want to see him as
>>739138784https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_suicides_in_Nazi_GermanyMany beautiful trans Nazi queens! Look at em go!
>>739138859>e was a german ultra-nationalist who only cared about german "interests", not some "white race savior" how so fucking many retards want to see him asit's really funny seeing fucking Indonesians and Mexicans praising Hitler "ironically" these days
>>739138859>he was a german ultra-nationalist who only cared about german "interests", not some "white race savior" how so fucking many retards want to see him as/pol/ is to blame for convicing people of that
>>739126246Ancient gayreeks mocked Persians for being too pale
>>739128968There is actually a genetic cline across southern Europe and the Near East. This is seen by the fact that Greek Islanders shift towards the Middle East while Greek mainlanders are closer to other Europeans. Cypriots in particular are simply Hellenized Levantines.Same deal with Jews. Ashkenazi Jews pretty much sit half way between Southern Europe and the Middle East genetically.
>>739138832Anon I’m talking from experience here because that was literally the experience with my mom and dad and my dad was a hillbilly.
>>739138936Most neonazis today are very much thirdworlders and most lefties are preppy upper middle class.Truly the clown is upon us.
>>739138859That's not really how it went down
>>739138601you listed retards and homos right there though, that's like 99% of all white people
if historical records arent accurate then how do we know anything?
>>739125447>he thinks greeks couldn't tan>he thinks black greeks didn't exit
>>739139030Maybe in them ancient times, that doesn't fly today. Unless some crazy chick get preggers and forces the family to accept the bum, but that happens in every direction.
>>739138729so then what did russia save yurop from, tranni boi?>>739138859>>739138936>>739138993slavs aren't white. >>739139120slavs aren't white
>>739138601hitler waged a genocidal war against eastern europe where he killed 27 million soviets with tactics that would make genocidal israelis with their tactics on gaza blushthe ""progressive"" west systemically downplays nazi atrocities against ussr because they don't want to victimize ussr/russia and contextualize their fear of western military expansion towards them that's why you only hear about the 6 million jews and "some other minorities" and why you see nazism/hitler as some "racism issue" rather than a western imperialism and colonialism issue that just happened to target europe itself with the same tactics normally reserved for weaker countries
>>739139169Whats that, a sauna?
>>739139150Whatever feels good to 15 year old rightoids is The Divine Truth.
>>739139284nobody cares
>>739139080Please explain how>Croats are Aryan Germanics but Serbs are subhuman>Slavs are subhuman except Bulgarians who larp as steppe raiders, they're Aryan>exterminate Poleniggers except those we'll arbitrary kidnap as kids because they have magical ancient Germanic ancestry>starve the Greeks but Turks are bros>exterminate blonde Russians but Central Asian Turks are compatible with Greater Germanic Reich>Brits are fellow German- whoops they don't want to surrender, guess they caught the Jew Flu, let's help the non-Germanic Irish that fight against the Germanic English>Americans are overwhelmingly Anglo-German but actually they're subhuman>chinks are subhuman but Japs are honorary AryansShitler and his Volkish propagandists made zero sense and the fact we're still talking about this in current year is insanity
>>739139219I was lying a bit, it was Cuba, not Mexico. Apprnetly there was animosity between the Afro-Cubans and the ones who came from Spain. When my Mom brought my Dad home they thought he was Jesus because of his long hair. And they were glad he wasn’t black because they were living in a ghetto at the time due to poverty.
>>739128607o algo no mames wey
>>739139284>the ""progressive"" west systemically downplays nazi atrocities against ussr because they don't want to victimize ussr/russiaFinally, a triple digit IQ in this thread.
>>739139284>rather than a western imperialism and colonialism issue that just happened to target europeNow you're being dishonest, it was Hitler issue, no a Europe issue.Also Russians were the most expansive colonial power, in fact to this day they managed to keep all their colonies if you think about it. Or do you think the Bashkirs, Tatars, Finns, Chehens etc just really, really want be part of holy rossija..
>>739137580I strongly doubt the average person in any Western country thinks so, and I think you also know it and are just being disingenuous>the whole idea of races etcDifferent groups of people have different genetic makeup which influences the way they look (among other things), the changes are gradual but not to the point where everything is a harmonious continuum, there are plenty of cases of radically different people living side by side from centuries (Tibetans and Indics in NE India and adjacent areas, Beidan and Haratin in Mauritania, Copts and Nubians in Southern Egypt/North Sudan, Russians-Kazakhs, Spaniards-Moroccans, the list goes on... Even Greeks-Turks are quite different for the most part, with the exception of some specific subgroups)
>>739139257>slavs aren't white.slavs literally come from the same genetic cluster germanics come fromslavs are genetically closer to germans than germans are to italians or greeks, who are literally genetically closer to persians than to germans
The absolute subhuman retardation of rightoids really is the best argument against "democracy". As if these retarded worthless subhumans who can be so easily scammed by basically anyone who jingles keys in their faces could stop immigration or even fill a fucking pothole. The only hope for a right wing movement would be a messianic lenin/hitler/mussolini figure. The actual "human capital" is just garbage.
so who is white and who isn't bros? I'm getting confused
>>739139549>Now you're being dishonest, it was Hitler issue, no a Europe issue.To be fair, they were more than willing to rehabilitate and reintegrate former Nazis and Germany in their anti-Soviet system.
>>739139372Ha so it's the economic angle (real or perceived), that's the only real angle in human relations (that or alcohol + dick in pussy).
>>739139645Italians are the cutoff for white. If you look whiter than them, congratulations you are european. Thats how I'd manage the ethnostate.
>>739139284why should I care about hitler killing slavs? Russians are cool, but every eastern yuropoor poster on 4chan is literally indian tier annoying. eastern yurop is like if brazil was a country>>739139591italians and greeks aren't white either>>739139610why are all slavs left wing, pro gay, pro tranny, pro open border homos?
>>739139284Unfathomly based post
>>739139673as opposed to.... killing all germans?
>>739136098This entire thread is an attempt to disown modern Greeks from their past history by insisting they're actually Turks and aren't descended from ancient Greeks.>TURKS DEFINITELY RAPED ALL THE GREEKS>I BET YOU WANT MUSLIMS TO RAPE YOUR FAMILYAre not good arguments, and all evidence points to the fact that Greeks are in fact descended from the Greeks who lived in Alexander's time.
Westoids claim that race is real yet can't even clearly define what white race is. You love to see it
>>739139673Of course, but so did the Soviets, plenty of German scientists and technicians the USSR after the war. They were just quiet about it, so no memoir books or any of that decadent bourgeois habits.
>>739125447they should have gave him some cooler gear
>>739139645"White" was always a nebulous term but if we define white as anyone with majority European ancestry then that is simple. Greeks are unambiguously white. But trying to autistically use genetics to define "white" is pointless because Europe is diverse.
>>739139762>is like if brazil was a countrybut Brazil does exist
>>739139169>"black greeks" actually existed but simply decided to *exit* the universe
>>739139591Like Germans are white, they are mix of Celts and Huns.
>>739139851>Greeks are unambiguously whitelol
>>739139645The english are the only true white people
>>739139696He was doing worse than her given he was a bum. Sorry to burst your bubble but Hispanics just highly value phenotype. It’s funny because my mom is rather liberal so when she tries to tell this story she gets embarrassed and swears that her family isn’t racist they just really prefer blonde hair and blue eyes for whatever reason.
>>739139838>disown modern Greeks from their past historyThis did actually happen to us, but it originated from those very Western powers. They systematically scrubbed all our Roman imperial legacy to leave us as a curiosity of the ancient era instead of a Byzantine rump state. To this day, in Greek history schools, the 1000 year East Roman era that defined Greek culture, religion, our current language (Medieval Greek) etc. is relegated to a few pages while the rest of the year is focused on a century of Classical Greece and 1821-1974
>>739139939According to Benjamin Franklin the inventor of electricity, yes.
>>739139762>why are all slavs left wing, pro gay, pro tranny, pro open border homos?Those are Westerners, all of your gay, tranny, liberal poison originates from Western academia
>>739139739Even then there are Italians who could pass as Arab or Turkish
>>739139645According to the english
>>739139591>slavs are genetically closer to germans than germans are to italians or greeksDepends which Slavs, which Germans, which Italians and which Greeks, as all four groups are genetically diverse> who are literally genetically closer to persians than to germansSimply not true, with the exception of Pontic and Central/Eastern Anatolian Greeks
>>739139920https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
>>739140014literally every left wing shill on 4chan is a slav
>>739140071Those are genuinely some incredibly well done bluish tones on the African people. A lot of artists don't know how to draw black skin without making it look ashy, this is impressive attention to detail.t. artfag
The worst thing about rightoids by far is the complete lack of intellectual curiosity.
>>739140145you can say nigger here, it’s ok
>>739139995Again perceived economic angle, Afro-cubans were a few generations away from slavery, marry a "white" was symbolic of social ascension.
>>739140157Everything I needed to know was taught to me in elementary school or is self-evident by my Aryan genetic memory. (((They))) want to convince me that the world is more complex, and woke. Don't fall for it.
>>739139367you've got a point but i feel like this is a bit different than the original post
Discord got wind of this thread I see.
>>739139843Who is white?>Wavy Hair>Light to medium dark hair>Light or brown eyes>Light skin at least of fitzpatrick scale II or below light base tone with ability to tan>thin non width nose, Non major convexity>medium full lips and belowIts literally that simple. Europeans look like europeans. If you have a european facial bone structure which is typical of a european facial pattern and facial features you're european.Are scandinavians european? Yes. Are Celtic brits and scottish european? Yes.Do they look the same, No. Are they both europeans? Yes, they both come from northwest european hunter gatherers.
>>739139549>Now you're being dishonest, it was Hitler issue, no a Europe issue.I'm notit was a "western europe" issue in the sense that it was a typical case of a psychopath western empire wanting to exploit another region for it's own benefits no matter how many millions will die therethe west literally invaded and oppressed nearly the ENTIRE WORLD, which is also where they clashed with germany, as there were no more easy colonies to grab, they had to clash with the west sooner or later in that, but ofc there was also an even bigger request of expanding eastwards, unifying with german minorities there, ethnic cleansing the slavs and baltics and turning them into german colonies germany actually wanted to do this even in ww1, even trying to justify it with the non german ethniciteis there being "uncivilized" even then. Ofc Hitler absoultely doubled down on the racist justifications and the scale of ambitions there. Otherwise ww2 wasn't germany's first genocide in the century either, it was in an african colony before Hitler>Also Russians were the most expansive colonial power, in fact to this day they managed to keep all their coloniesRussia's expansion was result of 2 things. 1, siberia had very little population (around 200k people, compare that to 50-100 million native americans before western europeans arrived to america)2, mongol and other nomadic invasions were a serious threat that themselves were genocidal and devastating to russia in the past, securing these regions was a genuine security concern, not just "stealing resources/slaves from others"also while there were cases of oppression of the other ethnicities in russia, they were nowhere near on the level of actual western colonies. To this day over 90% of ethnic minorities speak their native language in Russia, by comparison only a few percent native americans still speak their native languagesin north america as it was systemically ereased.
>>739140216don't be vulgar
>>739140226Jews telling you to vote republican and defend israel is in your "genetic memory"?
>>739140071...so people from the Baltic's are literally gnomes from children's books, nice to know.
So if Muslim immigrants need to go back to Muslim countries, does this mean Afrikaners and other white Africans need to go back to Europe?
>>739140258>Are scandinavians european? Yesno
>>739140218You should have a gander as to why whites are always perceived to be economically and socially superior then…
>>739140056His phenotype is not white and hes not european.His nose is heavily convex, his hair is black, his cheekbones are non european. His eyes are dark brown. That's not a european bone structure.
So what did we learn from this thread?
>>739140318Sure. And you can look at Rhodesia for an example of that happens when they do.
>>739140157They wouldn't mind licking a boot as long as it is worn by a white man and not a Jew even if they are treated the same
>>739140356French tend to be mutated
>>739140428Rightoids are retards
>>739140056>>739140356The french are the most disgusting and backwards people of europe
>>739140263Ah i see, so europe colonizes because is evil and awful, holy rossija colonizes to protect itself and because "no one" lives in those areas anyway.I bet that also applies to the Amur (the only piece of arable land in the region) which the Russians took from the Chinese about the same time as the Brits took Honk KongNice to know, a typical case of other peoples empires are bad, my empire is good.
>>739140472Yea but french are european.Even dismissing conversanos facial features like his hair and skin color, His bone structure and nose structure are not european. Looks more armenoid or arab. I can show you europeans who are not scandinavian but are european and have generalized northwest european skull and facial bone structure. In fact native inhabitants of britian werent blonde.
>>739139284>the ""progressive"" west systemically downplays nazi atrocities against ussr because they don't want to victimize ussr/russia and contextualize their fear of western military expansion towards themholy fucking third world BRICS cope
>>739140347Spain was literally the colonial power, what did you expect.In ancient Britain the Celt chieftains were literally offering their daughters to Roman centurions from Syria, there's always an angle and it's not race, it's sweet cash/power.
>>739140001False, quite a bit of the history we learn at school is dedicated to the Byzantine Empire. The thing is, a lot of Byzantine history doesn't take place in Greece, so it is not TECHNICALLY our country's history. > the 1000 year East Roman era that defined Greek culture, religion, our current language (Medieval Greek) etcChalcedonian/Nicene Christianity is barely within that timeframe (and Christianity itself is older, not to mention that we treat it as a completely new religion despite its parallels with Hellenic/Greco-Roman religious/spiritual pursuits). Medieval Greek is a descendant of Hellenistic Koine Greek, if anything we don't learn enough about our language's history and gradual change throughout the ages, notwithstanding the fact that the distinction between written and oral (divided into dialects) Greek is not stressed, making people spout nonsense about the linguistic debate of Demotic vs Katharevousa. Culture has various roots and changes from place to place and time to time, with common threads that sometimes lead back to ancient Greeks. Basically, ancient Greeks are our "baseline" ancestors in every way, Byzantines are a Romanized Christianized repackaged version with some assimilated foreigners - and many of them did not even become modern Greeks but mixed into other nations (yeah, so did the ancients, I know)
>>739137170>>people I want to defend in this moment = Aryan, White>>people it is convenient to hate right now = subhuman shitskins>>everything good in history = made by White Aryans>>everything bad in history = kikes and untermensch>>every civilizational downturn in history = raped by subhuman BBCThis, but unironically.
>>739140056"gets mistaken for an Arab"How many Arabs are there in Russia? Most Muslims there are Caucasians or Central Asians/Turkics
>>739140681Here you go buddy a true european
>>739140953sami dna is obvious
>>739140993But muh yellow hair and blue eyes, you're surely a jew to deny my claim
>>739140818Hmm hmm I’m really having a big think here…
>>739125447MAjinPhil?
>The Greek biographer Plutarch (c.45 – c.120 AD) discusses the accuracy of his depictions:>The outward appearance of Alexander is best represented by the statues of him which Lysippus made, and it was by this artist alone that Alexander himself thought it fit that he should be modelled. For those peculiarities which many of his successors and friends afterwards tried to imitate, namely, the poise of the neck, which was bent slightly to the left, and the melting glance of his eyes, this artist has accurately observed. Apelles, however, in painting him as wielder of the thunder-bolt, did not reproduce his complexion, but made it too dark and swarthy. Whereas he was of a fair colour, as they say, and his fairness passed into ruddiness on his breast particularly, and in his face. Moreover, that a very pleasant odour exhaled from his skin and that there was a fragrance about his mouth and all his flesh, so that his garments were filled with it, this we have read in the Memoirs of Aristoxenus.>Historians have understood the detail of the pleasant fragrance attributed to Alexander as stemming from a belief in ancient Greece that pleasant scents are characteristic of gods and heroes.>The Alexander Mosaic and contemporary coins portray Alexander with "a straight nose, a slightly protruding jaw, full lips and eyes deep set beneath a strongly pronounced forehead". He is also described as having a slight upward tilt of his head to the left.>The ancient historian Aelian (c.175 – c.235 AD), in his Varia Historia (12.14), describes Alexander's hair color as "ξανθὴν" (xanthen), which at the time, could mean blond, brown, tawny (light brown) or auburn.>Reconstruction, based on remaining traces of paint of the original polychromy on the Alexander Sarcophagus from Sidon, indicates that he was depicted with brown eyes and chestnut brown hair.What I could find on Alexander's appearance in Wikipedia.
>>739140953>ugly means non whitewhen will this meme end
>>739140953I can show you ugly europeans too. There is no one european look and a lot of central european features mixed with northwest european features around europe are all mixed.Daily reminder pic related was in the SS and they checked his entire family.
>>739140071SOMALIS ARE WHITE????!
>>739141386are they related?
Himmlers brother
>>739140619not saying russia didn't have it's share of imperialism, I'm saying it's share was significantly smaller, like tens of times smaller. I'm also not saying this make Russia some holy place, Russia was a fairly normal country, it's the west that was particularly evil and exploitative in the world. in the end Russia literally had a civil war where the more popular side defeated the less popular fascsist genocidal side (and by that I mean they were literally genociding hundreds of thousands of jews during the civil war that had nothing to do with the civil war itself) who were backed by the west and who could only even put up a fight because of western support funniest thing is reading churchil message to the russian Whites where he tells them that they know they are genociding jews and they will keep sending them weapons but please cease genociding so many jews because this shit going viral makes it harder for him to give them more weapons
>>739141402das rite, we are the purest hyperboreans
>>739140071
>>739141509>it's the west that was particularly evil and exploitative in the worldlmaowhat if you just stop with that narrativeand start saying the west was righthow does your world view change?
the logical follow up to “Europe is diverse and contains many skin shades” is “it’s ethical to import sub-saharans and muslims en masse to change demographic statistics.”
>>739141637This is my cutoff
>>739141742that cut off should be called the Semitiform group
Stalins phenotype is about as swarthy I would consider someone from europe to be considered european.
>>739141742>Baltic is white but Med (Europe) is not
>>739141879Depends on what type of Mediterranean we are talking about, how much african DNA. I'd consider mussolini white.
>>739141853Stalin is Georgian
>>739141956Read the fucking descriptions nigga, there is no region in that line under Med (Europe) that isn't white
>>739142031are Georgians white?
modern 4chan is too stupid to realize they're even being trolled
>>739142142Have you been to Atlanta?
>>739142303No one that is not a thirdie newfag would ever type "modern 4chan" into a sentence.
>>739142446you just got shit on by jews
>>739141659what was the west "right" about?You realize that west, especially "aryan" north western germanic countries like germany, uk, france, nordics, etc. were literally LESS developed than middle east, south-east europe, china or india through entire human history except for the last coupe centuries? That the latter were the prime innovators of humanity through most of history, and the west enjoyed these innovations mostly through fair trade, and not invasions.The west isn't inhabited by some super intelligent übermensch who are justified to steal shit and kill "subhumans". The entire world was fluctuating in devleopment and they literally just gained an edge,and instantly used that edge to devastate and exploit the rest of the world, dramatically increasing the gap between the ""civilized"" west and the rest. the west didn't find some mostly "uncivilzed world and they just made use of it", overwhelming majority of people they affected and devastated were those countries I was talking about, they turned once developed countries like china or india into utter shitholes, they literally took india who was a quarter of humanity's production output at the time, systemically dismantled it's entire economy to restructure it into cheap resource exportaiton into UK , killing hundred+ millions in the process with impoverishment
>>739142595skill issue
>>739136957Yeah, you look zesty
the thread that killed 4cuck
