Nikke has made 1.3 billion usd revenue in less than 4 years, that's almost 32 million units of a AAA game sold at $70 after platform, marketing and production costs are taking into account Why should companies keep investing in anything other than gacha gaming?
>>739127392Isn't this because Nikke is a lesbian game?
>>739127392They should all invest in stock trading instead, that makes way more money. Why do videogames even exist?
>>739127392What about China?
>>739127392Why is global so poor
>>739127392This is why voting with your wallet doesn't work. We need to ban gachaslop.
>>739127392>Why should companies keep investing in anything other than gacha gaming?Because trying to copy gacha is a death sentence for most companies, especially those in the west.
we getting anime shorts boys
>>739127392holy shit taste.
>those shitposters that kept saying nikke was gonna die in a few monthsholy shit i know they're seething
>>739127771>video game companies make all female characters ugly>Gacha appears and rapes them>slowly but surely devs start reintroducing hot girls in their games so they don't go out of business It's already happening too, an actual instance of voting with your wallet working.
>>739127392basedpersonally I can't into Nikke because a lot of it seems to be misery but the chicks are fucking delicious
>>739128114Every gacha is going to eos if you listen to these fuckers, just because they read the magical out-of-someone's-ass numbers every 1st of the month
Are there any gacha that actually look like it has the production value of a billion in revenue? I look at gameplay of Nikke and it's like the same level of an arcade game I would have played two decades ago.
TWITTER GODSTWITTER GODSTWITTER GODS
>>739128552If you're looking into gameplay, then you're not going to find it. In terms of quantity of things to do, yeah most gachas with years of service have a shitload of things to do, that's where the money went
Cool. Love the world and characters, hate game. Can they make a proper one now like Stellar Blade? Maybe Helldivers but Nikke?
>>739128224No nigga, it just discourages developers from developing an actual high effort quality product when they see they could make billions just shitting out abysmal minimum effort skinner boxes, just by attaching some psychologically manipulative monetization systems to it.I don't want microtransaction infested live service trash proliferation any further.TOTAL GACHA DEATH
>>739128552I'd say Genshin because of its fuck huge world now but the actual animations and presentation are midZZZ has top animations but is lacking in many other waysWhere Winds Meet maybe? that one might get mistaken for a normal game, I guess
>>739128681>>739128857I started playing ZZZ which I regret and the things to do all seem like filler shit. Like how is a puzzle for an event even a thing when this is supposedly making millions every week? The event right now is literally just a fucking tutorial. The most elaborate one I've seen so far is just a copy of Fall Guys.
>>739127450i thought lesbians didn't draw dimes and we needed more hetero to be big leaguesay it ain't so
Video games catered to young men during the golden age and made a shiton of money, crazy concept i know
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>>739129048yeah the current slide puzzle is fucking lazy (not that the ones before were hardcore shit but damn)I guess the upside is that those minigames are very frequent and varied. Not quite TCG levels of depth, more like whatever side activities asscreeds used to have (throwing dice etc)
>>739127450>>739129138Idk what the hell you're talking about, nikke is one of the most heterosexual games of all time. the majority of the current event story is just a girl getting horny for the male protag cause hes so strong and manly
>>739129048I would not recommend any mihoyo game at all, that's your main issue here
>>739129048Hoyoslop usually have one big event per patch rest is minigame and combat gauntlet shit stalling for the next patch rinse and repeat
>>739129291>had to make a new image because he spammed the other one to death
>>739129138Why fall for obvious rage bait?
>>739129426So what would you recommend that doesn't have me questioning where the money goes? I guess Where Winds Meet might be that but I'm not really into the whole wuxiaslop
>>739129346its bait dude
>>739129346It's a brown SEA schizo. He lost his mind after the siren event because siren makes friends with other girls instead of the MC
>>739129484What's the last "big" event because I feel like I missed it. Don't tell me it was the soup mini-game.
well, they're still releasing pozzed AAA games that don't even break even so i don't think you understand customers are optional
I love Mica
>>739129767funny because siren wanted the commander the moment she saw him
>>739127392>western devs made modern AAA games look so unappealing that literal flash animated jpegs are racking in millions of dollars.They did it to themselves. I hope it was worth ruining the market and their careers to push a message of faggotry only their fake Californian "friends" wanted (they didn't, they were all just trying to all out-virtue signal each other.)What a fucking joke.
>>739127392So they arent going to do any idol stuff with them now?
>>739127876Hopefully those anime shorts will include brat-correcting Syuen.
>>739129776yeah I think that was it lol
summer event is almost here bros
>>739127392>Be gatcha game>Be shit in almost every regard>Add attractive female characters>Make billionsUnironically why don't games all just add attractive female characters?
>>739130105>summer eventFingers crossed for a SSR Ether with an important side story that connects the Commander.
>>739127876shame about anis' reduction
>>739127392It's not that it's a gotcha game but the fact that they show skin.Sex sells and folks are buying!
>>739130154>>739129914You are retarded. Propaganda games never going to add attractive characters no matter what. And the companies who would be willing to add atrractive characters are instead making gacha shit because why would they bother to put any actual effort in, if retards still by their slop.We don't have actual games with attractive characters BECAUSE gachas exist.
>>739129620Honestly I don't have much real recommendation. At best, check if Reverse, Limbus and Arknights are the kind of gameplay you could like, they are not as predatory as any mihoyo games, and put at least some effort into what the player does.
hammering soon
>>739130545Yep. Why waste time on making old style games when gacha makes all the money. Even big companies like SE focus on shitting out as much gacha slop as possible because that's where the money is instead of their real games.
>>739130535>brat-corrected Syuen to be a motherI'm alright with that.
>>739130105put these gacha sexo things in a single player action game on steam, thanks.
>People will actually spend money for attractive women instead of uglified they/thems who look like they were at the center of a cotton candy factory explosion.Just keep refusing to learn this lesson, West.
If all Nikke has to offer is to be a coom game, then why other gachas with far coomier designs/animations (like Brown Dust 2) aren't more successful?
AAA could never make another bae
>>739130840They don't have as many shills spamming here.
>>739130846Indeed.12+ game BTW
>>739130907>/v/ is the arbiter on what games are successful I... kneel...
>>739127392>Why should companies keep investing in anything other than gacha gaming?Because the frontrunners are the exception and not the rule? How many shit gachas have gotten a global release and immediately shut down after.
>>739131013That's why Marathon was a success.
>>739131076Why the fuck did this make me smile?Fuck my life I'm going for a walk see you cunts later
>>739127392>japan are paypigs for korean gachaslop>wasting all their money on jpegs instead of making kids
>>739131076
>>739127450No, you transbian tard
>>739130840Because the trick is to find the balance. Most popular heroines aren't from normal games, not hentais Nikke manages to find a good balance of designs liked by both males and females since Nikke is basically Nier x Sailor Moon
>>739130840They don't have lore as convoluted, Japs go crazy for that kind of shit, just look at Fate.
>>739128754>it just discourages developers from developing an actual high effort quality productName 5 such products worth paying $70 for.
>>739130840brown dust 2's gameplay is chibishit
>>739131728This, it's simple and to the point, and girls are introduced little by littleAL just failed at that any just threw girls at you and had a shitty plot Arknights and other chinese games are way too complicated, they talk a lot and say too little
>>739131880Even shitty 5 dollar kusoges are more fun to play than gachas
>>739130840Bd2 had>Atrocious name>Add a 2, cockblocking people>Males Could have been way more popular with a difference name and if it was harem from the beginning
>>739128552>>739129048>>739129620If you want a "premium" gaming experience, you're gonna have to pay "premium" prices. But that should be obvious.
>>739127392>Why should companies keep investing in anything other than gacha gaming?Because most companies know the value of staying in your lane. An industry making more money than yours doesn't suddenly make your industry (or profits) worthless.
>>739131880Chrono TriggerTales of PhantasiaStar Ocean 2Rune Factory 4Megaman Battle Network 3
>>739132039If those $5 kusoges are high-effort, quality products, then the gachas aren't really discouraging developers from making them. Because there are lots of $5 kusoges around, right?
>>739128552
BA is better
>>739128754The same developers of Nikke are those behind Stellar Blade and they are now developing a sequel.Regardless of what you think about the actual game, it's a single player game where the only microtransactions are a couple of costumes for the MC, which are already plentiful in the base game (and even then, you have mods for that).According to your logic, this shouldn't make a iota of sense.
>>739132192But I want high budget games with fanservice.
>>739132240BA is for lolicons, Nikke is for haglovers
>>739127392>ranks 18th in cumulative revenue among anime-styled mobile gamesWhat's the 1st?
>>739132292i hope project spirits is a turned based rpg with big tits
GFL is better
>>739132292Stellar blade is not the rule, it's the exception. It's literally one game.
Does that mean they will now get a proper game with all the money they made? I never touched Granblue gacha, but i played Relink and it's one of the best games ever.
>>739132426There's only 3 lolis in the BA's top 10
>>739127392Giving players what they want makes money. Imagine that.I wonder if those Japanese companies with ethics departments feel retarded as fuck now.
>>739130545>We don't have actual games with attractive characters BECAUSE gachas exist.Actually, you do have actual games with attractive characters because gachas exist. NIKKE was made to fund the development of such a game.
>>739132497stellar blade 1 and its sequel is coming
>>739128754https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KhfTpQIVnw
>>739132542oh right same devs, well cool then
>>739132497>Does that mean they will now get a proper game with all the money they made?Why would they make a real game if the thing making money is the males version of candy crush?You don't think gacha players are interested in something with actual mechanics, do you?
>>739132437I thought that was also going to be a gacha
>>739129485You know that faggot is getting into the skin of you lot if using derivatives carry the same effectYou yourself posting one of the many counter-edits from another butthurt gachafag only solidifies the sentiment
>>739130690Of all the examples to use, SE is not a good. One. Name another big publishing company that has wasted so much time, effort, and money trying to make "old style games" at the cost of so much else?
>>739132642make it less obvious
>>739132472Sure, but it just so happens that it's one game developed by the same people that already had a pretty successful gacha in their hands.It's almost as if diversifying your offer is one of the basics of economics, and just because mentally retarded CEO and shareholders only want their game developers to shit out whatever is more popular at the time (be it MMORPG, Battle Royals or Live Services) it doesn't mean it makes actual financial sense.
>>739132497>i played Relink and it's one of the best games ever.the story was as bland as they come and the multiplayer was just monster hunterlooking forward to the expansion though
>>739132187I don't think you'd pay $70 for any of those console exclusive games today and I don't think gachas were the reason why those type of games stopped being made.
>>739132601retard
>>739132326But would you be willing to pay $70 for a high-budget console exclusive game with fanservice?
BA is much better
>>739127392But the west can only "produce" ball and gun games with DEI characters in like my boi Nbugu c'mon score sam fackin' goal!
>>739127392Japs are mentally ill
>>739132926Yeah.
>>739132828>this game was total trash, but I still want more of it Please fix yourself.
you know, people always harp about nikke gameplay but I don't think I've ever seen BA gameplay
>>739130840Nikke isn't coom like bd2. Meaning it's more accessible to normalfags. The more lewd something is the less money it generates because it can't advertise as much and risks censorship. Porn gachas don't make shit compared to ecchi.
BA is better.
>>739127392The better question is why dont AAA devs try and make their own? Can theh not do it?
>>739133053I'd rather they fix the game, which might happen with the new stuff.
>>739127686FUCK THIS USURY-LADEN EARTHJEWS MADE THEMSELVES THE ENEMY OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE
>>739128685>Maybe Helldivers but Nikke?GFL is doing that actually.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BiLEaLSJCcHopefully Shift Up and other gacha devs follow suit and make proper games with their successful gacha's settings. I'd kill for a proper Taimanin action game.
>>739127769Freeze global.
found some high level nikke gameplay
>>739127392Project Spirits waiting room
>>739133216It's called Fifa and makes money every single year.
>>739128685>Playing as Rikkers against Raptures, when you get killed another identical Rikker model takes their place.>Your chosen Rikker model is your class/weapon/role in the team.You know, it kind of fits
>>739130382You're getting swimsuit Privaty and you're going to like it
More gachas fail than succeed. Simple as.
guys remember admi? yulha?
>>739127392They made much less after the glazing shilling marketing costs, kek. Total gachamong death
>>739130626If the "long awaited" character isn't her or Marian, I'm going to go insane
>>739133484Wasn't there a gacha game that ended the service just as it began? Love live?
>>739131248You're not going anywhere if Maxwell has anything to say about it
>>739127392>Why should companies keep investing in anything other than gacha gaming?Shift Up should continue to develop Nikke and use its profits to develop more Stellar Blade
>>739133729thats exactly what they're doing, they found the infinite money glitch and most dont realize it
>>739127392Guess that New York ad placement was worth it.
>>739133605it was love live but that was only the global version and only cause the jp version spent a year flopping and it was the better alternative to cancelling it
>>739133506Who? Are those leaked future banners?
>>739134226What is this mental illness?
this is my favorite gacha girl in recent years>never ever playableaw man
>>739134226nikke has plenty of tits though
>>739133506Death to PrivatyGive me Yulha alter or give me death
>>739134352Let mods handle him
>>739128552Genshin’s soundtrack alone would be retardedly expensive to produce
>>739130840Sex appeal is the bait that gets people to download the app, but if you don't want them to uninstall a few weeks later you have to have some kind of rewarding experience. The really successful gacha games never have just one charm point, they have several different ones that hit you at different points in your experience as a player. A cute girl in skimpy clothing on a banner ad might catch your initial interest, but then you start playing the game and maybe the story seems interesting, or the overall premise is really cool and lets you live out a fantasy, maybe the music is really catchy. The progression system is addictive. And so on. The goal of these various charm points is to get the player into a position where they see themselves playing the game for a long time, once that happens, they feel more willing to spend money. Only a fraction of the player base needs to spend money on a semi-regular basis for a gacha game to be profitable.
>>739134430Behemoth = Ziz > Bahamut > Leviathan
>>739134226I see this bot can't read images because if it could, it'd realize revenue results doesn't fit its narrative.
>>739134226America is literally the smallest revenue stream of any of its major regions. Did you even look at OP's image?
Why aren't indie devs making gacha games? Sounds like easy money.
New to the game, just met Doro.Are there any events in the archive I should be aware of? Anything with story relevance?
>>739134994There are a lot, some of the most important ones are the anniversary events. What you should do though is look at the timeline in the commander's room and do them in release order.
>>739134942Gacha games make money by spamming ads. They spend the vast majority of their budget on ads. Indie devs don't have that kind of money to launch such an advertising campain, so if they want to succeed they have to do so by the actual merits of their game.
>>739134942There are plenty of indie devs that make gacha
>>739134994overzone
>>739134696I'm curious to see where Europe would fall, if it counted as one single region.Probably even less than the US.
>>739135309None of them make good money like the big ones do. Marketing is expensive and matters the most.
>>739134994Read overzone, NOW!
>>739135414Europe has fallenbillions must buy
>>739135435I don't think it's the marketing that's necessarily the biggest obstacle, I think it's the absolutely relentless schedule of new units/event/main story updates that any gacha needs to have in order to have any hope of being successfull, Indies just don't have the manpower needed.
love how she's embarassed about her bellybutton showing but not her giant fat hangersShe's just insanely horny
>>739135189>>739135365>>739135475Will do, thanks.
>>739135632>not wearing her glassesThey were THIS close to perfection
>>739135414Just going by math, the rest of the world not mentioned only amount to 15.4% of revenue. So yes, way lower than US. US made the studio almost as much as their home country, so it's a market worth going after, especially since yoy pick up English speakers in other countries. The main question is why are japs going so crazy for this game? Is it the same for the other popular gachas, or is it a Nikke thing?
>>739137105Japan is the biggest gacha market in the entire world beyond compare. It's true for every gacha.
>>739137150That's true, but is every successfull korean gacha skewed to this degree or is Nikke particularly appealing for japs by the standards of non japanese gachas for some reason?
Nikke still hasn't released a traditional Japanese nikke yet
>>739127392>Nikke players turning 30 and considering suicide because not only did they waste hundreds or thousands of dollars gambling on shittily animated PNGs, stories full of sadism and tragedyslop, and now are beyond the threshold of youthful looks that can occasionally overcome social ineptitude and wizard status, they can't even play real games that require reflexes or any form of strategic thinking.Turn back while you still can.
>>739138019What makes Sakura non-traditional?
>>739130105WHORE
>>739128552Wuthering Waves and Endfield look nice, but I'm not sure I'd call it "a billion in revenue" nice.
MY KING
>>739130535
>>739127450yes, it is, about half of the playerbase is femalealso Tenma recently started to play it and she said she's full het so she's not that interested in it, which means every single woman who plays it is a lesbian.
>>739138192Hime cut
>>739127450No, Nikke is a harem game with (You) as the male protagonist.
Yes its a harem game
There's thousands of yuri fanart of this series
>>739130840You have to keep liking the character after you nut
>>739131880Library of RuinaSTALKER: AnomalyDarkest Dungeon 1Total Warhammer 2Path of Exile
Men will spend copious amounts of money for shitty porno game and then blame eve for eating the apple.
>HaremNope. Nikke is a monogamous game with Christian values.
I love seeing shitposters lose their marbles over this game
>>739140239
>>739133138Brown Dust 2 didn't originally start out as a coom game, but it is now. It was originally a normal JRPG style game with fanservice, but they slowly added more coom elements until they took over the game. The biggest example of this is that they replaced with original protagonist with a self-insert for (You) as a harem protagonist.
West can never make something like this because the concept of making attractive women that are into (you) is pure poison to them and they would sooner kill themselves and take the whole industry with it
>>739127392I'll never see a dime of that money so numbers are irrelevant to me.
>>739140324nikkes cant get pregnant
>>739130545>misses the point entirelyFucking clown, modern gacha's popularity only exists because you faggot Americans ran out all of the talent because you whined about breasts being a bad thing and would rather have your narratives about how much dick you can suck. Kill yourself.
>>739140324What was the context of this anyway? I skipped most of the Arcana routes because I put off reading through all the other routes until like the last few hours.
>>739140350That hasn't happened yet. And the original main protagonist has always been a female, Justia.
>>739140657A random lost kid that just happens to have blue hair.
>>739127392Gross
>>739130840the recipe for success is coom + (you) pandering
>>739136808WHAT WERE THEY THINKING????
>>739127392Nikke is proof that gamers love slop
>>739140324NTR smileso it's not your child to begin with, even if they insinuate it with this
>>739140324
>>739130846>tanned Kroniishe's problematic though
>>739132240
>>739138409It's not happening, stop spreading this retarded theory.
>>739141734I would many things to Ibuki
I wonder how well an actual gacha GAME would doLike say you get a game like dark souls or a zelda game, but you get a bunch of cute characters to go through the dungeons withHell I'd even accept an mmo style gacha thats just FFXIV but instead of jobs you roll for charactersThe problem is that there is never a proper game attached to this shit, like actual content that isnt just some arbitrary wealth check or tediumSingleplayer games made in the west already have microtransactions, but they fail to grasp the concept of making people actually want them because they can't fathom the thought of making cute girls or something
>>739141734>tallest is 180cm>only a handful are over 170cmDamn why are they all so short? How tall are Nikkes anyway? I assume shorter than the body proportions would suggest because a lot of them look 190cm+.
>>739138019bro your Scarlet?
Nikke players look like this.
>>739127392GACHADS
>>739127392I'm convinced gacha is good for the video game industry. Predatory monetization aside - and a very BIG aside - there's only so many of these types of games people can play at once. If companies mindlessly pump these things out as they have been, they will only eat losses as they try to break into an oversaturated market. But just like how Genshin came along and raised the bar for all gacha games by making them play like actual video games, so too have subsequent releases built upon Genshin. If you want to dethrone the kings you have to do something unique or better, and that's slowly what we're seeing. Eventually they'll completely ditch the mobile simplification of these games' systems and deliver full-ass experiences with gameplay on-par with proper video games.
>>739142061How'd you get this video of me?
>>739141948Nikke already has thatlook at the minigamesbut of course the poltare escapees who shitpost here would not know about that
>>739127771It does work which is why gacha games, the only safe bastion of big anime tidies thrives. Gacha is cold hard proof of voting with your wallet working>t.whale
Soulslike but with Scarlet would be cool as hell.
>>739127771>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SPEND YOUR MONEY HOWEVER YOU WANT WE NEED 1984 NOW THIS IS WRONGTHINKCommunist piece of shit subhumans like you should be rounded up and shot.
>>739142061There are two kinds of Nikke player:>4'8" SEA monkey who looks like that and was enraged>6'+ Chad who actually looks like he could be the Commander who thought it was a great adActually this goes for most gachas to be honest.
>>739142219that's SB with the DLC
>>739134430If you're not using that brain I'll take it off your hands
>>739142160Lets not pretend Nikke has gameplay, it probbaly has the least of the "modern" gachasMy point was they should design an actual game first, then add gacha shit to it, not make a gacha machine with minigames taped to it
>>739142160There's a streamer right now playing in the mirror for several hours days
>>739142061wtf that's literally me
>>739141948>>739142219Nikke could make for a cool tactical game with a heavy character focus. That said the average Nikke player is retarded so I doubt a tactical game would go down well with the established userbase.
>>739142042why would you want taller girls...?
>>739142364NTA but they are cool
>>739127392>Revenue Breakdown by country>Japan at 48.3%>United States at 17.3%>Korea at 19%I don't understand...How does Japan do it?How are they so fucking perverted?
Knew anti gacha subhumans were leftoid communist vermin.
>>739142127>Eventually they'll completely ditch the mobile simplification of these games' systems and deliver full-ass experiences with gameplay on-par with proper video games.I mean, Fortnite exists.
>>739141948That's Genshin Impact, the most successful gacha game of all time. It's a Breath of the Wild clone with gacha elements and it's main selling point is that it plays like a real game instead of gacha game.
>>739142347Didnt GFL2 already atleast attempt that?I still wouldnt call it enough, but there has been some effort in that area I guessI want gacha to break free from the daily login scam and material farmingJust make a cool game, be it singleplayer with optional co-op or an mmo, whatever, add cute girls that people would actually WANT to roll for, and keep adding more dlc-esque content to do, a new map with new dungeons like some souls dlcs, or a new expansion, whatever.You can keep the perpetual money machine rolling for a long fucking time, if you put something in there people would actually care about
>>739142331Tenma>>739142325say what you want, there are minigames in Nikke that go for 30+ bucks on steam standalone
>>739142364Because I'd prefer a girl I can look in the eyes without having to get an RSI. Height is also attractive, taller means a more slender figure and better body proportions (within reason), though as I said a lot (most?) of the Nikkes already have body proportions of tall women (which is precisely my point, it's more attractive and that's why they drew them like that).
>>739142539DBZ gachas alone mog genshit.
>>739142539But it lacks actual depth, it falls victim to the same material grind shit and lack of meaningful content."dungeons" are literally just botw shrines floating in the void, it feels lifeless and shitThe whole world feels lifeless and shitIt DID step in the right direction, but as a game it still falls short of every alternative.
>>739142539>most successful gacha game of all timeGenchinks are so delusional it's hilarious
>>739142547>Didnt GFL2 already atleast attempt that?Yeah but it was still a gacha and the tactical stuff was as shallow as it gets. So it was way too shallow to attract people interested in tactical games (even the simple ones like NuCom) but way too complex for the average gacha ape.
>>739142608you want tall girls?
>>739127703Contrary to what fake chinkshit charts want you to believe, chinks are too poor to whale.
>>739142891>per capitadid you factor in the recent discovery that there's only 500m chinks?
>>739142707>But it lacks actual depth, it falls victim to the same material grind shit and lack of meaningful content.What would "actual depth" and "meaningful content" look like?
>>739127703china only plays chink gachas
>>739142796Still looks like an RSI to look her in the eyes, but if she can amend that by picking me up the terms are agreeable.
>>739143007cope your nation will always be poor shit.
>>739142891>>739143007kek Amerimutts seething at China never gets old.
>>739143093did you pay your daily contribution to Israel yet?
>>739143146>>739143190Uh oh CCP defense force is here+1 credit score
>>739133367Maaaaan, why was nikke 2 an april fools joke
>>739143238uhoh, Israel defense force here-1 foreskin
>>739143092I think it was in her bond story but she gets really excited at some point, picks (You) up and tosses you in the air like you would a kid.
>>739143293don't enable that pervert, please
>>739143291>israel not even in the imagemindbroken
>>739142325the bosses in this game are kino tho
>>739143392goybroken
>>739142796
>>739143034The kind of content that was present in older games, back before investors fucked everything into generic slopElden ring is an excellent example since it has both good and bad, its dungeons are pretty much the same as the empty void shit I mentioned earlierThe "legacy" dungeons are the kind of content that matters, the stuff your inner child would get excited about the though of exploring, finding weapons and killing bosses and the likeOr the dungeons in zelda, something tangible to complete that rewards you with something unique, not just meaningless currency or materialsIf you look at content and internally put it on a checklist, its fucked, not sure how else to explain it
>>739143414what is this thing? the new queen?
>>739143490elden ring is recent slop though, gacha mechanics are in games since 2007 at least
>GWEILOOOO WE HAN SUPERPOOOOOOOOOOOERkek
>>739143490In the mirror is literally like that but how would you know...
>>739143534A new heretic created by the queen named Altruia.
>>739143490Then go put down $60-$80 to play those games. Buy a $450 Switch 2 to play the next Zelda game and Duskbloods.
>>739143534Altruia, a new daughter of the Rapture queen
>>739143639>$450 Switch 2lmao
>>739143627>>739143660Don't forget her sister Egovista
>>739143538It was just an example, I dont particularly like it, not anymore anyway.When I rolled through it once and saw the game for what it was, 90% of my initial excitement evaporated, most of that game is just slop, but the legacy dungeons are the vestigal remains of what it should have been, which I guess is just more dark souls, but whatever.Loads of recent games have fallen into the ubisoft trap of just spreading shit around the map that doesnt really mean anything and could have easily been randomly generated, it sucks and isnt fun to explore or find>>739143639I cannot fathom the thought of someone preferring to just farm the same generic shit over and over againBut I guess people play warframe so there is definitely a market for those peopleAlso duskbloods is dead on arrival and everyone knows that lmao, what was he thinking
>>739143765>All eyes on me dududu
>>739143490>If you look at content and internally put it on a checklist, its fucked, not sure how else to explain itI understand what you mean, but unfortunately that has more to do with your adult brain rather than the games themselves (though modern game design certainly doesn't help).Try to play an old game, even something that's considered a masterpiece, and you'll inevitably end up making a mental checklist of what you "need" to do to be sure to have the complete experience, so that you can eventually put it down without feeling you have missed out.There is no longer the wonder and willingness to just take things as they come there was when you were a kid, it's as simple as that.
>>739143845>I want "actual depth" in my games with "meaningful content">Also, I refuse to pay the price the developers and publishers of "actual depth" and "meaningful content" ask for You can criticize the gacha and F2Pfags all you want, but you're just a leech. You'll never actually support the video games you say you want and then blame someone else for their failure. At least I can respect the grindfags. They actually spend their time and money on something they like. Your "principles" produce nothing but bitching and moaning.
I guess this is the proper thread for it:Which Nikke character wears this outfit?
>>739144049Rei
>>739144049Alice
>>739144049Anderson
>>739144049Raptillion
>>739144049Rabbity!
>Nikke has made more money than every Battlefield game made in the last decadeThat's fucking hilarious.So it turns out, sex DOES sell.
>>739144142God DAMNThank you, this is my other personal favorite from the game
>>739144003>refuse to pay the price???When did I say this?
>>739144365That one is Modernia
>>739144589Bitch is hot
Stellar blade 2 is gonna be wild with the skins
Where the fuck do you even buy memory films for the archive events?
>>739127771I am voting with my wallet. I invest in this and get cool games like stellar blade too, get fucked faggot
>>739128114It's hoyo faggots, it's always hoyo faggots
>>739143951Not really, I play games without any form of wiki or guide now just to discover shitWhen the elden ring dlc released, my friends and I were super excited to just explore it because everything had new weapons and stuff to findGranted, it being smaller and more condensed is what really helped, but we knew for a fact that every place we checked had something coolThats what I want, the feeling everything can contain something cool, meaningful and unique, instead of borderlands loot or currency or some shitAnother recent game that COMPLETELY fucks this up was code vein 2, it just didnt have anything cool to find
>>739128552This mentality is retarded, the graph for production vs revenue plateaus really early on in gaming
>>739144823I'm salivating at the thought
>>739128685Would buy 10 copies. I think they want to make a "AAA" Nikke, but are trying to figure out what they want it to be. Nikke was supposedly influenced by 3rd person cover shooters like gears of war, so that's also a possibility
>>739144831in a current event shops I think
>>739144831Current event store
>>739144831Any event that is currently running sell some in their shop (for gems, 20 for 100 gems each), you can also get one (1) when you complete a certain chapter in the current event.
Nikke is the only high profile 2D gacha? The rest is mihoyo 3dpd chinkslop clones.
>>739128754Except there are hundreds of these things released daily and only a few make money.
>>739127392>not taking into account eternal development and server costsUh oh
>>7391299302 of those 3 would laugh at becoming idols anyway
>>739144897I didn't play it myself, but I heard Crimson Desert is the closest thing to Skyrim that came out in years, and that kind of sound like what you want (if you can put up with the jankyness).
>>739145084Are you that much of a newfag? Stuff like FGO, dokkan, p&d etc have been around forever and made billions
>>739130840Nikke has a lot that is better than most gacha but I also wouldn't really call it "good". People say the story and characters are good but the story is all over the place and feels like devs are just pulling shit out of their ass every 2 seconds and have zero clue where it's going and the characters pretty often don't act believable and just do whatever the plot demands of them. The rates are ok but them the game's the biggest whalebait game of all time having an infinite grind that can be negated with real money and 50 different PVP modes where it's nothing but p2w so if you don't whale you're basically locked out of half of the game's gameplay modes since it's impossible to compete unlike most gacha where you can at least try with f2p shit. The game's not particularly satisfying with romance with the girls cause all the best girls are story important and as such the devs constantly pussy out on making their relationship with SKK romantic. The gameplay is fun but again the most p2w shit in the industry making it feel unsatisfying. it's the most obnoxious gacha ever created for wasting time with collabs having a bunch of 3-4 week long collab events every year that take time away from the game's own content.making the already slow as fuck update schedule even more insufferable. Nikke is full of stuff that are really good on an initial look but completely fall apart under any scrutiny. I've never seen a gacha fumble as much as Nikke does. It's pretty much wasted potential: the gacha.
>>739144823I don't know how they could get any wilder.
>>739145030I heard they initially wanted the gameplay to actually be a cover based shooter, all in 3D and with the characters actually moving around, but very few phones at the time were able to run it so they opted for the static, arcade like shooting we have today.
>ctrl+f "blacks" and "nigger">cricketsWhere is that schizo who can't stop talking about big butts making games bankrupt. He seems to lay low when this one shows up to the party despite it having the truly biggest, in-focus asses of any of these games lmao
>>739130545>Blaming the effect and not the causeI hate retarded psued like you so much
>>739144951Sure but with gatcha games it still seems like the production bar is like 10% of where it should be given what they make.
>>739144781Please don't call my wife a bitch
>collect gatcha game art>never play the games
>>739145294His post already got deleted, so he's probably trying to get past the captcha right about now.
>>739130626>>739133553It's obviously Papi
>>739145190I havent touched it, mostly because to me, it looked like the exact oppositeFunnily enough, I didnt care much for skyrim eitherIts fine, I guess, but it too suffers from just not being that interesting to exploreIll go look at CD to see if its worth getting on a sale
>>739130840ExactlyAlso lmao at all these armchair retards replying with their thesis
>>739131076The way she says cutie in english does things to me
>>739145263That's my favorite from the NieR: Automata crossover plus
>>739128552Honkai Star Rail, Zenless Zone Zero, Arknights Endfield.
>>739145546it's got a nice visible camel toe
>>739132472It's the start which showed other companies it's worth investing in (which they now are)
>>739145381Wonder how he's coping with Japan being the lion's share of this big-ass game's revenue
Chances that SU will make a Vanquish-style shooter spin off of Nikke?
the only thing keeping me from spending money on Nikke is pure laziness
>>739132601They already have, seething cuck
>>739145564I really wish we got a proper waifu sim with turn based gameplay cause HSR is the Mihoyo game I like the gameplay of most but it's very clearly made to appeal to faggots and woman.
>>739132642Looks like the counter edit is working
They are so many characters with different skill sets that they can make a spin off in any genre.
>>739145190CD is like Skyrim if you also think Starfield is like Skyrim. POIs turned into a completely unnatural checklists to grind. One thing I'll give it is the puzzles are actually puzzles. Except they repeat with one element changed and you never want to redo them.
>>739145030I know they all use fire arms but I really want something more like Nikke World from this years April Fools.
Almost summer my niggas
>>739134994All the anniversary ones are pretty important. Others are mainly slice of life stuff except for acouple i forget the names of. Someone here will remember
Pixar
>>739145693Cooking Mama style spin off with Crust and Bready!
>>739145564>look like it has the production value of a billion in revenue>Honkai Star Rail, Zenless Zone ZeroHoyotard low ass standards
I dont play the game but closely follow the story.Got Stellar Blade full edition cause i just wanted to support Shift Up.
>>739145894fuck yes
>>739145681There's Star Savior
>>739141805Writer has admitted on stream that he's not great at plot twists and that if something seems likely, they it's often going to be how the story plays out
>>739142325Go look up some footage of the minigames. They recently just added a full blown rhythm game for example
>>739145885fucking KH and its wack-ass rules
>>739145894I'll take a Hitman wannabe with D and K
>>739146015This is honestly one of the best thing about Nikke's writing, enough to almost compensate for all the negative aspects of it.The story has twists, but if you pay attention you can actually call them well before the reveal since there are plenty of clues, and unlike almost all modern hack writers they don't change it just because some people figuered it out or to "subvert expectation", if something makes sense it's probably true.
For all the modern devs who might see this thread and are wondering how this is possible, see it as beneath them and then proceed to cope about "gambling" as the sole reason, here is a pro tip:>try putting attractive appealing characters in your video games, it doesn't need to be extreme, it doesn't need to be the only thing the game has going for it, but put them in there, just try it, what do you have to lose?also here is another pro tip>don't put ugly obnoxious characters in your video games instead, no one likes them, it doesn't make you morally superior, it won't sell the game and it will absolutely certainly not change the world for the better in any way (in fact the people you are trying to push are more disliked than ever thanks to you) - it's a video game, they are supposed to be entertaining
>>739143454They really fucked those up
>>739144049A retard. Fucking hate Alice
>>739145637They're only a 300 person studio. I don't think they even have the manpower to make their next IP, Project Spirits. Sounds like it'll most be developed by a third-party.
>>739146251Gayest post of all time
>>739145738Just play Stellar Balde dude. You have hundreds of anime sword games, we NEED more anime shooters
For those of you who were around at the time: How mad was the community over Johan? "male character outdoing you at every turn in front of the harem" doesn't sound like the kind of thing that would go down well.
>>739146256Stellar Blade was made by an entirely separate team from the Nikke devs.
>>739145190It's closer to The Witcher on a larger scale desu. It does take influence from other games though, such asBotW/Totk for climbing and sky puzzlesElder scrolls for pick up everything hoardingRockstar for mission structure (jump on horse, talk to mission partner while reach destination, get taught new feature +respect)Just to name a few
>>739145982I tried it, it sucks.
>>739146434About as mad as Hanson having first dibs on all your idol girlfriends.
>>739145283That's one of the things that got me to play, reminded me of a 3rd person time crisis with actual drawn hot woman and not chibi shit, like 99% of these games have
>>739146434I remember seeing people not liking him at first because he was a dick but as he got more screen time people started coming around. Same thing happened with Oswald. He was despised after Over Zone but pretty much everyone did a 180 on him after Red Ash.
>>739127392Only bugs throw money to gachashit
>>739146434Everyone ships him with Cecil anyway
>>739145297Why would they change the formula though? People are willing to pay for what they supply now? No company has ever done what you expect them to do
>>739127392New gacha games need AAA production values at launch and continuous content afterwards to stand out and get people to stop playing other games and switch over. The gold mine rush has been over for a while. Obviously, you have various legacy games with established userbases that managed to continue making money though, but the issue is launching new ones.
>>739145564Still mindless gameplay
>>739146161It does make the story satisfying to watch unravel.
>>739146434Weirdly enough, Nikke male characters are generally really liked, which you wouldn't expect given the genre.
>>739145681My teams are female only, sounds like a skill issue in your part.
>>739127392I'm surprised the US is almost at the same level as Korea.
>>739146332Brain dead woman don't do it for me, stupid is fine, but Alice is straight up lobotomized you can have her though.
>>739146514why mustang looks evil now wtf
>>739146697>I eat around the shit so it tastes goodGood for you shit eater
>>739146458What I'm trying to say is there are three teams in those 300 people: NIKKE, Stellar Blade, and Project Spirits. Last reported, PS only had less than 20 people as part of its team and they've since talked about "co-developing" the title, presumably with a third-party.
>>739146434Majority of the male characters are based in Nikke and have reasons for coming off as bastards. Ones that don't get capped eventually
>>739146721>pretend to struggle
>>739146771That's Old Mustang.
>>739146638>Are there any gacha that actually look like
>>739146771This was him in a flashback event. He was a gigantic asshole, worse than Syuen if you can even fathom that.
>>739146721>turn the tables
>>739146771Did you miss 3.5?
>>739146589To stand out in the sea of gachas that are out now? I mean I'm not asking why they are that way anyway. What I would ask is why are standards so low when it comes to gacha vs normally sold games however.
>>739146681Exactly.Honestly I wonder if this isn't a big part of why Nikke has the reputation for having a "good story", since nowadays it seem it's one of the few serialized narratives that bother to build up a bit of mistery and twists in its story but at the same time doesn't do that retarded shit I mentioned earlier (changing the twist for the sake of "subverting expectation" or writer's ego).
>>739146835Think you took his question too literally. You can look at the gameplay and think >Yeah, that's had money put into it
>>739146721
>>739145248>high profile
>>739146771That's our Mustang's papa.
>>739146771hanson who is now mustang was only hanson at the time so that is his father which was ruthless and enjoyed entertainment in every negative way
>>739146872They're not low for the market they're competing in and revenue does infact get poured back into the franchise. It's just silly to think they would completely revamp the game because they have more money. What game has ever done that before?
>>739147000No Man's Sky.But that was a special case.
>>739147000WoW comes to mind but what do you even mean by revamp? Does adding more polish or better events than shit like >>739129048 count as revamping?
>>739146781skill issue
>>739147050>putting in the game half of what you promised that was missing on launchyeah, no
>>739147143Taste issue
>>739147000GFL into GFL 2 into reverse collapse into GFL:BBC and RC: Foxtrot
>>739147164Well, it came out, made tons of money, and then got changed enough that now it's basically a completely different game, far beyond just adding content that was promised that was missing at launch. That sounds like a complete revamp to me.
>>739147168you issue
>>739147118FF XIV comes to mind, but that was because the whole playerbase, including the usually mild Japanese, were in complete revolt at launch.
>>739133729> Stellar BladeThat games a failure tho.
>>739127392>Japan makes up the most moneyGuess that explains why we keep getting Idolslop
>>739140239>>739140324Aren't they robots?
>>739147602The Queen will be defeated thanks to Idol power, you'll see!
>>739146879You might be right. They balance the mystery and basic storytelling just right to keep you hooked and not be disappointed by random 180's to the plot. I think it helps that they have a clear goal in mind that hasn't ultimately changed. Take back the surface. Everything still revoles around that one goal
>>739147681A queen was already defeated with idol power
>>739147671The blue one is just a random toddler that looks like her, it's not actually her kid. The redhead one... is more complicated, but she is basically the closest thing there can be to a daughter between the MC and her.
>>739146578So the secret to having males in your gacha is to keep their hands off the harem by giving them a romantic interest.
>>739147671Robot bodies piloted by a human brain so androids. The red one technically had a child with (You) in a roundabout way. Blue one just found a lost kid that happened to have blue hair too.
>>739127392That's like 4 million copies of a paid game every year, compared to the other ball and gun games that's fucking terrible.
>>739147789>Andersen and Lilith>Johan and Cecil>Hanson and Pretty>Burningum and Foodyeah checks out
>>739146434None at all because Nikke has well written males and if anything SKK was cucking Johan through Isabel but Johan is a “no way fag” type male character
>>739147050They would have never done what they did if it was a hit from the get go>>739147118Nikke has infact polished everything revolving the game and even added extras like a huge array of full blown "mini games". It annoys me watching people claim it's the same as it was day one>>739147183Not super familiar with GFL, but that is a sequel no? They didn't completely revamp the first game right?
>>739127876>Babu has a sippy cup
>>739147580Here (you) go champ
>>739147602Anon Japan makes up the majority of income for basically every gacha.
>>739147862>Burningum and FoodAnon why do you think we STILL haven't had Papi as a unit yet?
>>739147973Burningum has an actual wife though.
>>739127392>>739147602>>739147948But /v/eddit turdworlders said only SEA plays gacha????
>>739147973It was a joke anon, Burningum is married and has several children already
>>739147996>>739148006Papi is his work fuckbot. Why else is she dressed like a full blown sluz
>>739148005That's Hoyo chinks trying to pretend that their gacha is the only worthwhile ones. They claim every other gacha is seafag exclusive
>>739148090Burningum doesn't see nikkes as people the way SKK doesHe wouldn't stick his dick in a toaster
>>739148090Cause she wanted to seduce Burningum and his moustaches, but he is too faithful to his wife to be tempted.
>>739147862>Johan and Cecilshe gave (You) a 1 hour in depth medical examination though.
>>739148193Think that has been proven to be a bit of an act knowing what we know now about his grandfather. You wouldn't be raised by Oswald and think they way we thought he did.
>>739148132Sucks for them but hoyoshit is losing.
What's with the basic bitch club slut music in the shop anyway?
>>739148379She's autistic with her work. It's why shes perfect for Johan, the other autist who focuses on his work. Hell, they're both that autistic that they live in a giant canon by themselves and call it a society
>>739148382Nah, he was fully willing to crack open Modernia's skull to study herHe puts his job as head of Science and Technology far above anything else
>>739148418Honestly good, might force them to pivot. At least the other companies have tried making different stuff with their funds
>>739127392>Nikke has made 1.3 billion usdbut they sacrificed the game. now, Nikke is boring like real life, and everything costs money ingame...
>>739127392China and Korea and US are just stealing Nip money with these gacha games, it's hilarious
>>739148448What would their children be like? Super autistic ubermensch?
>>739127392>out earns literally every wokeslop "game" ever made>all they did is make hot women shooting big gunskneel, heterosexual men won, forever and ever, we own this industry
>>739127450Fuck no.They tried adding /u/shit in one of its anniversary events and it flopped bigly compared to every previous anniversary event.They learned their lesson and made the focus character from it straight in their next main story appearance.
>>739148449Cause he knows Modernia as a heretic. It still fits when you think about it. Who would be the bad guys in the stories Oswald would have told him about the Goddess Squad? Raptures and Heretics
>>739148595She went into full ovulation the instant she saw him, it was hilarious.
>>739146578At first I thought they were siblings frfr
>>739148538>US>gacha gamesLmaoThe only gacha games that come out of the US are sportsball shit, and only Americans and Euros care about those.
>>739142325Nikke has a whole ass Metroidvania in it
>>739148614She was docile, he's on par with the scientists who experimented on Cinderella even after she turned back from being Anachiro.Even if he's nice sometimes Burningum is still someone who would walk over a mountain of corpses to protect the ark for better or worse
>>739148684Everything about Eden was confusing as fuck for a start. I didn't realise it was literally just Johan, Cecil and the Nikke's living there for one. They made it sound like it was a small population of people living there
>>739148740SHUT UP
>>739132472Granblue Relink and Versus, Anomaly Collapse,
>>739146015>if something seems likely, they it's often going to be how the story plays outAlready better than fgoshit then
>>739148767Honestly, them feeling way more important than what they are kind of fits and in a way it's even the main reason of their downfall in Goddess Fall.
>>739148761I just think it's outlandish to think hes as dismissive of Nikke's like others when he would have been raised by pro Nikke parents/grandparent. He would understand the threat Modernia could posses to the Ark and act accordingly. Doesn't mean he disproves of all Nikkes
>>739148684>>739148767So it's not just me then who thought that sometimes the presentation is confusing and outright disjointed? Just fought Nihilister for the first time, and while Eden was ambiguous, some past story sequences have been outright jarring.
>>739146434I liked Johan because he seemed to get the commander thinking more along the lines that he actually needed to be useful, rather than dead weight letting the Nikkes do everything. To the story's credit, they seemed to genuinely improve the commanders competence after his time with Johan.
>>739127392i can’t believe people actually play gacha
>>739148418>mobile chart>for games mostly played on pc and console
>>739148878He doesn't disprove of them, he just looks at them like research subjects because that's his job. A toaster is a toaster, it does its job if you ask it to. That's it
>>739148878The best way to put it is that the fact that Modernia was a Nikke in and of itself didn't influenced his decision in ordering her being captured and dissected, he would have done the same if she was a human if it somehow led to the same result.
>>739148932Nobody plays gacha games (or any games) on cucksoles.
>>739141948There's like 5 games that fit your discription. But of course none of them count because they're gachas. Even though you were talking about gachas>The whole world feels lifeless and shitNo actually the world is more alive than BotW, but that's because the BotW set the bar very low. Outside of janky physics the world of BotW is static. In Genshin you can make meaningful changes to the world via various quests
>>739148897It gets better the further you go. They do throw a lot of stuff at you early on that make little sense. They try and make you feel what the Commander is feeling when coming across new things, but the problem is sometimes they forget to mention stuff that the Commander would see which would help with context. Eden being a population of 5 for example. What else were you confused with?
>>739146434It wasn't too far after launch. All the shitposters were trying to claim Nikke was a homo game now and Johan is going to cuck all your wives. Fast forward a couple years and he's busy babysitting a handful of literal retards along with Commander's daughter.
>>739148909I do like that the commander has his own character development. Pure self inserts are just boring
>>739149161How the cuck tables turnsNow he's raising another man's child
>>739148964I think his mindset is closer to what this anon said>>739148975I refuse to believe he sees them as somthing similar to a toaster when his very grandfather idolized them
>>739149161I mean, we still have to this day schizos that think Goddess Squad is the LSKK harem despite the fact that it couldn't be more of a parent-daughters relationship if they tried (except with Lilith)
>>739149046Plenty play them on devices other than phones. Don't be stupid
>>739127392This is why voting with your wallet works. Shut down everything but fun and sexy gachaslop.
>>739141948Honestly I want someone to try making a gacha Dark Souls>weapon gachas instead finding them or beating bosses>areas like Great Hollow, Painted World being limited events that will disappear forever if you miss them>Paid armor skins, some of them limited. Missed the Artorias set? Tough luck, wait for another year>Story update every few months or so, you fight Gwyn in the 5th year anniversary
>>739149046Nikke's serious content is almost unplayable on mobile, the PC client is a godsend.
>>739149335It sounds like shit.The thing about gachas is that the thing you are rolling for can't be just a gameplay advantage, that would get very boring very fast.A game like, say, Pokemon would be far better suited for a gacha.
>>739149184Not my absolute favourite but SKK's definitely up there as one of the best gacha MCs.
>>739149256Burningum is far more bound to duty than Oswald. Oswald went against the government countless times to help the goddess squad and old tales. Burningum keeps Aegis on the Admire and forcing them to hold a bunch of parties instead of letting them do whatever they want. That's not the actions of someone who wants nikkes to thrive, he uses them for labor like machines they are.
>>739149335That doesn't make any sense because you have no reason to roll on characters in a soulslike. Gachas love using that swapslop Genshin combat because they figured out how to produce 500 characters for the party and make all of them desirable from gameplay perspective. You don't need 500 characters in souls, or 500 weapons for that matter. The entire combat formula would have to be remade for that to work
>>739146434Most of the men in Nikke are honestly goated
>>739149497He's certainly one of the mainliest.
>>739149619Privaty got to touch this for free while Mint had to beg
>>739149361PC gets most games for a reason
>>739149361I mean what gacha DOESN'T have a PC port these days? Gacha being synonymous with mobile games hasn't been true for years. Which makes the constant mobile revenue charts even more worthless than they already were.
>>739149298It's either phone or PC. Anything else is cope.
>>739149709Blue women are given preferential treatment
>>739149505He's working like a government official would. You seem to think these actions he does are exclusive to Nikkes. He is honor bound to the system his grandfather and father worked in. Do you actually think Oswald would have told him about the times he defied orders? You miss the point of all these characters entirely
>>739149709I got whiplash at how Mint turned out. I'm worried at how unhinged Prika is going to be >>739149925Is this some third world cope or somthing? Most first world homes have a console of some description
>>739127392because gacha is not sustainable like thisYou can't just s hit out a gacha and print billions. For every nikke there are 30+ massive flops that EoS as early as a monthIts the same as when wow hit the jackpot when it first came out and everyone tried to make wowlike mmos and 95% of them flopped and shut down
>>739150267You don't need a cucksole if you have a PC, retard
>>739150207>Do you actually think Oswald would have told him about the times he defied orders?Uh yeahHe even straight up told Dorothy about one of those times
>>739150267>I got whiplash at how Mint turned out. I'm worried at how unhinged Prika is going to bePrika is probably gonna be somewhat normal. I forget where it was stated that Mint's real personality is the most different from her stage personality.
>>739150435>Third worlder still doesn't get itWhatever man, keep spouting the same lines. World keeps turning without you
>>739150435It's funny that people always say shit like this and yet PC onlies are always third worlders. People who aren't poor can afford multiple systems.
>>739149606agreed
>>739150267Prika is acting cool and tomboyish but she's gonna be very girly with her jewelry making side business
>>739150461>Telling an adult somthing is the same as telling a child stuff at storytimeJust stop man, trying to explain shit to illiterates is tiring
>>739150607Just admit you're wrong anon it's fine
>>739150476I hope so. Preferred Prika anyway. Just seemed weird for Mint to be so self centered knowing what she went through
If 2.5 failed how did siren make top 5?
>>739150643I'm not some autist that needs everything spelt out for him on a page to understand character motives and reasoning. I'll leave it there. You're welcome to stay in your little fanfiction
>>739149505I disagree, there is a reason Oswald was considered one of their best agents, and it wasn't because he routinely went against his superior.It's more that Burningum, like Oswald, knows when and where to break the rules (like when he shot Doban to protect Dorothy, a non Ark Nikke that could potentially put the Ark in danger).In other words, with Oswald we saw him only when the situation was such that it was time to break the rules, with Burningum we saw him at every other time.
>>739150735Most retards vote based on the meta instead of what their favorite character is in that poll since they get a new skin. It's redundant to use that to measure popularity
>>739150738I'm right and you're wrong, but you're too stupid to understand why so I'm not even gonna try. If you try and refute me you prove your stupidity even further making me the winnerNice talk
>>739150812Ok anon. Enjoy your game
so whatgenshin made 1 billion in 6 months
>>739150735Ovulating for the SKK.The feat of obscuring the Queen's sight for 100 years.Being THE meta B1 until Star Anis came out.
>>739150854I will, baka
>>739150648>Preferred Prika anywayBased and same
>>739150785Oswald did all his rule breaking in secret and covered it up afterwards making him seem like the model soldierBurningum doesn't need to cover anything up because he never breaks the rules to begin with. Shooting Doban wasn't even breaking any laws, he just asked for permission after shooting instead of before.
>>739150648It makes sense to me, considering how she always regarded her looks as her only positive thing and that she considered Prika and Anis more deserving of being respected given their skill and work ethic respectively, she would be very distressed as someone NOT falling for her, cause it would mean she has nothing to offer to them.
>>739151185That is a good point
>>739151105Because he hasn't been put in a position where he has to yet, not because he would be unwilling to do it.Also I was referring to Oswald during his whole career, not during the events. Remember that those happened during what was basically the apocalypse, it's natural even someone like him would break the rules if he felt it was worth it.
>>739150869>The feat of obscuring the Queen's sight for 100 years.I thought they said that the Queen could see through the bubbles all along and the only reason she didn't actually come down was because she was petrified of getting her ass whooped by Cindy again.
>>739151185Smile Box sounds retardedSmile Time is much better
>>739151405It's just speculation at that point, maybe Oswald broke rules all the time but was really good at covering it up. We'll never know, so it's pointless to discuss since it's just headcanon.
>>739151460She couldn't see through the bubbles, but she could have wiped them away any time she liked it.The problem is that by doing so she would have revealed her position, and she being a coward she was terrified that during her nap humanity had a whole army of Cindies ready to stomp her.If Siren hadn't covered her with bubbles, she would have been able to see that was not the case and descend much sooner, potentially dooming humanity.
How do they make money? There isn't any incentive to spend.
>>739127392>paying money for a gacha gameidk how they make people pay money for this but somehow it works.
Play ice dragon saga
>>739151845>>739151873Outfits and merch.
>>739148701>Google and Apple takes 30% cut of every single in-app transaction worldwide
>>739152053Not if you buy thing through the PC client
>>739151873Longer people do something, especially a hobby, the more justified they feel about spending money on it. We are simple creatures and these companies know this
>>739151953kino event
>>739152112Do you really think Japanese gacha enjoyers are playing on PC except a small minority, especially when it's not even cheaper in the PC client
>>739152335But it is cheaper.At least for me.
>>739152363I don't know what game you're playing but it's the same price for the games I play, and the most popular ones like Hoyoslop and Wuwa.
>>739151953I did I love Maidens fat stinky ass.
>>739151953Haven't seen him yet so, for that one anon, it's Maiden
>>739152429I'm an Eurofag and maybe it's the change rate (since it makes me buy things in Dollars instead of Euros) or whatever, but I pay significantly less if I buy something from the store linked in the PC client instead of Google Play.
>>739152343
>>739152429>>739152551In the US it's technically cheaper on the PC client since they don't charge tax.
>>739152343>has to break her character to call mommy Ingrid to authorize the use of her right eyeThere was something very adorable about that.
>>739152561Do you think he mods Syuen into every game he plays now so he can beat the shit out of her?
>>739152591That's not true even in the US. It's only in certain states that decided to tax digital goods. They don't collect sales tax for digital goods in my state despite my state having a sales tax.
>>739127703The fake China numbers are only for their fake FOTM gacha shit.Just like their housing market... and stock market... and automobile market... and building market...
>>739152747I didn't get charged tax, despite my state charging for digital goods, when I bought from the PC version but the last time I bought anything on it was Crown and Modernia's gacha skins so it could have changed since then. I just chalked it up to the transaction being from a different country, I don't know how this shit actually works.
>>739152551That's probably just regional pricing. I'm from the US and I always VPN to Japan to get lower top-up prices.
>>739128114>It's the same faggots that mysteriously couldn't produce gacha revenue via Sensor Tower the month NIKKE beat every miHoYo slop that was released... TWICE.Hoyoniggers, LOL
>>739128552And that's exactly why it's good.Couple that with the awesome story, world-building, and character development, and you've got lightning in a bottle.
>>739152604Love that outpost encounter where she is larping and sakura thinks she is serious so she mobilizes her Yakuza goons to stop an imaginary thread. She is surprised an alarmed sakura did that, so she calls ingrid to bail her out and ingrid tells her to fuck off and solve it on her own.
>>739153027Don't forget that the chart mysterious updated how it counts sales the month after.
>>739129914Based and true.
>>739130840It's legit just because Nikke had a lot more buzz around it around its release and it got a Nier collab still decently around the height of their popularity (both). BD2 just didn't get as much news for it. A lot of the stuff posted about BD2 now is about the really over the top coom and that's probably keeping the cash flow going, but it's a bit late now to gain more users and whales. There was also a bunch of coom oriented games already, one of which still didn't get a proper English translation (Last Origin). Nikke just has the best overall designs, a constant coom gameplay with the vertical gameplay screen design for phones that makes everything more intimately coomer for phone niggas. It might be just as shit of a game and not nearly as sex ridden, but it just has staying power for its popularity. Just like Hoyo games.
>>739153123I just can't believe you saying those things after playing Stellar Blade. I think the standards are just so low for gacha.
>>739153336Nikke really did benefit from being the 1st major gooner gacha. Before Nikke every other one focused on sex appeal to that extent was much more small scale and niche.
>>739130840My guess is money laundering.
>>739153417Azur Lane
>>739153219Oh shit, I forgot about that, lmao.I think Nikke is the only game in those charts that actually releases its sales numbers every financial quarter.It wouldn't surprise me at all if the fake slop China shit only generates half the revenue Sensor Tower posts about.
>>739148740Well damn, I did not know thatAlright it scores some points for that, any nikke gameplay I saw was the fucking shooting gallery, which im pretty sure is the main game
>>739150497>>739150552>cucksole monkey already coping
>>739149070I hate to tell you this, but my opinion on BotW is uhh... not very highHell it is the root of the problem for genshin really, it copied a shit gameIt had the potential to make it amazing but it didnt really do that, its still above BotW for me, but not by muchI want it to be good because I love genshins aesthetic and it has so much fucking potential, it just falls short
>>739127392gachafags should be hanged en masse
i wish seasun could do this
Keep seething about gacha, faggot
>>739153417Including SU's own previous game, Destiny Child. SU have said they didn't expect Nikke to take off as well as it did
>>739127392>Why should companies keep investing in anything other than gacha gaming?because there is no demand to supply
>>739154731I play on phone, I just understand the console market is infact a thing because I'm from a first world nation
>>739138629>>739148595>schizopostersUnbreakable Sphere was normal and was a big success. You lost.
>>739155753Why does this tranny always show up at the end of these threads?
