>no more selfish vs support difference in the next expansion will see jobs who were never individually strong before finally having a time to shine like nin or redmageBe honest, am I just overdosing on copium?
If you only care about raw strength then why are you playing RDM? Fuck off from my job and play BLM.
If your job identity revolves around party buffs you are a lazy fuck
>>739131808But a valuable one.
I might resub just so I can stack skill speed on my monk again and be goku for real. I remember being sad when I did that originally and realizing it was stupid because it made everything misalign.
>>739131489I hope they show more evolved jobs at EU fanfest
>>739132153I tried doing this in Occult Crescent then realised all the Phantom Jobs are arse and there's no way to actually go fast. Here's hoping for something good in North Horn.
>>739131489I dont know why you’re pretending ffxiv ever had any “support jobs” after SB
>>739131489Red Mage should lean more into melee attacks in Evercold, you don't do enough in 14
>>739131489i love this little sweetpie so much>>739134751agree
>>739131489there's no selfish vs support difference now eitheryou have DNC and you have the rest, every dps has to have some piddly 3-% buff so the spergs don't hurt themselves pretending they're "hardcore raiders" or whatever
>>739135172They're gonna hurt themselves in nine months because it seems like damage-up buffs are going away forever
>>739135249and I hope every single one of them quitsfuck parseniggers
anyone have the taliesin calling vieras hitler?
>>739134751That hat has a noticeable fidelity different with the rest of the Historia aiming set, admit defeat and use an artifact hat or look for a chapeau or tricorne released more recently
>>739136160huh?
>>739136160Yea
SHE'S BACK
>>739136235i mean the actual vod
>>739136282
>>739136160>>739136235>>739136282>>739136301>>739136343
>>739136510
>>739136510the first question asked
>>739131489Finally, it's RDM's time to shine
>>739131489I'm excited to try EvolvedI kinda only play Samurai right now, so hopefully I find some other jobs to enjoy
>>739131489Support jobs are, and have always been, the most based. Every job being able to solo and fill all roles is fucking cancerous.
>>739131489>>739134997I wish human females were real
>>739136184Nah
>>739136510we certainly didn't ask you
>>739136953Not talking about the hat's style, I can tell it's an older item, see if there's a similar hat in EW or DT gear
>>739136791I'm wondering what they will even do with Samurai with Evolved. It already feels like it has a strong identity other than Kenki management becoming an afterthought. Maybe try to have you spin up into an Iaijutsu more often? Add more Iaijutsus? Bring back Kaiten and Seigan? Condensing the combo buttons and Kenki buttons is a pretty easy trim.
>>739131808As a dnc main, yeah and?
>>739136510https://www.twitch.tv/taliesinandevitel/clip/YummyIronicDinosaurKappaPride-MVtZvMP1aopKibyuclosest i got. its what happened in between the two things here
>>739136282basedmy queen
>>739131489Of course you are. It'll be the same shit you've been laying for the last 4 expansions.
>>739135172Yeah sure, sam viper blm being at the top is actually just a freakish coincidence hehehe
which dps has the least shit to keep track of? shit I consider keeping track of: ability cooldowns, buffs, debuffs, timers
>>739138301why is that guy so obsesse with hitler?
>>739138804VPR SMN
>>739138804>Bro has an attention span under two minutesModern summoner is brain dead, and VPR is literally "click the shiny button in any order" By the way stay out of party finder on my server please. :)
>>739138804Viper and SummonerMaybe Reaper if you find Viper to fast paced
Red mage needs its own gimmick that can actually make sense>A bad damage class>A bad support class It should be >Cast black magic, cast white magic Not>Black magic black magic black magic, do a res, do a gay sword combo then flip off of the mapIt should be mixing up more support with damage to make it actually viable
Viper was never difficult but DT release viper actually had some meat to it. People complained and they gutted it like on the first patch.
>>739139035>Black magic black magic black magicThat's not how RDM works wtf what game are you talking about
>>739139035>Cast black magic, cast white magicthat’s literally what it does?
>>739138301AIIIIEEEEEEEEE SOMEONE SAVE ME FROM THE ICKY SUPERIOR DESIGNS OF JAPANESE CREATIVES THEY ARE TOO GOOD
whatever you do don't EVER trust a womans opinion on anything in this game
>>739139115>>739139161That's literally how it works retardYou use jolt then veraero or verthunder then proc for stone or fire>BUT IT SAYS ITS WHITE MAGICit's not white magic it's just more damage White magic should actually be support and healing not just a different flavor of black magic >BUT THE LINE SAYS-I know what the line says stop being so fucking retarded and think for yourselves
this nigga doesn't understand what white magic in final fantasy actually is
>>739131489>never individually strong >NIN>RDMSECONDARY MODS MODS MODS A SECONDARY IS SPEAKING STOP HIM DAMN YOU I DONT CARE WHAT IT TAKES
>>739139035first off, using just black magic would fuck up your bar, giving you a black magic abundance and not allow you to do a combo in the first placeand second, even if you weren't pretending to know anything about rdm, any rdm who uses displacement then corps a corps back in is the surest sign of a scrub retard who doesn't realize he could have just used engagement instead and stayed within range to get auto attacks, which contrary to every retard out there, does amount to free damage over the course of a fight
>>739139436Autos don't go off while casting. Still good to have and I remember when I was going for 99 in ryne/shiva with BLM it was one of the things I was doing. RDM should get more value out of it cuz of the double cast compared to shadowbringers BLM.Not really worth mentioning though unless you're really there trying to push every single digit, for whatever reason.
>time to design occult crescent!>let's see, what did people hate about the other zones?>let's reinforce all those areas!
>>739139376Aero is not fucking white magic just because it was used in one game. I've played more final fantasy than you. Aero has been a black magic spell for the majority of games and fits more with fucking blue mage than anywhere close to white magic
>>739139614it doesn't matter you fucking retard every single job that has melee autos will get some off randomly in between pressing your gcd, this is a fact and if you're not doing it you're not optimal
So this dude was totally going to be the original second trial, right? Like the artwork for it makes it look absolutely massive (instead of at best two roes stacked on each other), and like it's outside in the clouds over the Everkeep or something.inb4 but what about muh Magus Sisters/Anima, at least you got told some stuff about the former, and the latter had story relevance in being Varis' dismembered corpse. This dude meanwhile is the super throwaway-able 100 dungeon boss.Like, out of the expansions I was able to take a good look at the sites of (with the exception of HW because different design style of the site), all of the "new threats" were the trials minus Endwalker, and this dude.
>>739139772>every single job that has melee autos will get some off randomly in between pressing your gcdAre you ESL or what's the actual issue there? It's like you didn't read the post beyond the first sentence.
by the time I upgrade to the full version, the 1 time grinds in Cult will be easier and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>739131489I'm hopeful. The PVP actions are pretty unique.
>>739139315bro out here arguing with himself
>>739139804Maybe a scrapped Queen Eternal design
>remove complexity and identity from jobs>everyone screaming that the game is saved
more button = more better
red mage should be red
>>739140032>pressing 1-2-3 for 45 seconds inbetween 60s burst is complexity and identity
@739140032Oh yeah, my complexity of doing the same damn rotation, gcd for gcd, for 8-20 minutes every fucking time. "but muh bard" you may say, for example. Jankiness isn't complexity, it's jankiness. Just because you have to cut off your songs at weird times in the normal rotation isn't complexity, it's shitty design.
>yfw Summoner gets Zodiark Phoenix in Evercold
>>739138895>>739138941>>739139007Thanks. How's red mage?
Oh no, I wont be able to cry about le heckin 2 minute meta anymore!No YOU for you piggy.
>>739131489I really hope they won't fully axe interactions between Jobs, but it sure looks like it. The game will feel even more like a playing with bots instead of real people.
>>739139804When they revealed him, they specifically said he was not a trial. There's no way to really know, but by EU fan fest it was already decided.
>>739140308Rammuh judgement LB
whats the first thing you notice in this party?
>>739140000I'm right though Imagine if the rolls were reversed >Time to go cast my fucking black magic spell>Curaga Makes no fucking sense does it? So why is verstone and veraero making white mana?Red mage Should beOne attack spellOne support spellAnd you alternate It makes no sense why both white mana and black mana are just different flavors of black mana
>>739139035>Red mage needs its own gimmick that can actually make senseHow about a Job that has a strong sense of enfeeblement and buff magic, being able to help out with contributing to melee or magic (or both) if needed in the current party? That is how XI did it (back in the 75 era).Oh right, XIV literally lost all combat systems that aren't "do damage" or "don't stand in bad".
>>739140032>remove complexity and identity from jobsComplexity is on the table but jobs are currently more homogenized than they've ever been.
>No, you see, i want you to be my master, but i will not learn anything about you and i will almost kill myself to demonstrate my father that I’m worth of being a dragoonis being retarded a requirement to be a dragoon?
I'm not saying its going to be gangbusters. I'm not saying it'll even deliver.But damn you niggas could at least TRY to articulate how cramming 3 buttons into 1 and a tossing a whole bunch of rote boring shit out the window at the expense of faster and more ACTUALLY involved combat is a bad thing.I think the reality is that you don't know what you want.
>>739138301Isn’t he the same guy who was about to cry because his chat wasn’t playing along with his dildo “joke”
>>739140591ffxi isn't the platonic form of ff jobsi'm sorry you had to hear it here
>>739139035if they made rdm sage with a rapier sureit's a dps though, it's gonna use white magic to do damage
>>739140598Vaguely, yesEstinien isn't the brightest chap either
>>739140417complicated, you have to switch between single target magic, area magic, and single attacks skill + a bunch of buffs, not really what I would recommend for someone looking for something simple
From left to fight>faggot viera healer>modern slop faggot>forgettable tank>GSM guild leader cosplay>modern slop VPR>gay faggot hroth>literally boosted PLD whose first duty is thisI hate how modern XIV looks. The forgettable WAR is somehow the best.
>>739136712kino glam
>>739140579Is that the fucking Goldsmith NPC lady?
>>739140159>Evolved changes everything!>look inside>spamming 111 for 40 seconds in between 60s burst
>>739140712>>739140579
>>739140712>>faggot viera healerif only they made actual male coded dancer gearand ast too
>>739131808This
>>739140684>Does damage on par with dancerGo put on your ballet shoes Instead
>>739140417Easy and fun to learn as a casual levelling job. Hard to master as a raiding job.
>>739140581White mage uses earh and wind for damage spells too though. Don't get me wrong, I get where you are coming from and I agree. SE doesn't have the balls to create an actual support job. Its always "deal damage and occasionally buff the party for 0.00% (after rounding) crit. And btw, the extra damage you cause your mates to deal will be deduced from your overall dps so in the end it won't matter if you're there or not :^)"Would be cool if RDM would actually throw out some heals and regens and stuff.
they should let you queue for things while grinding OC
>>739140810One of the Courtly Lover sets would be really close to XI DNC artifact if the roses were dyed red
>>739140579>cobalt set with miqo skirtbased and retarded
>>739131489is there a final fantasy game where instead of a pue job system or one character one class, eaach caracter has a few different jobs that fit thier story, but they cant just be anything at all? Like a character who's shtich revolves around being a true knight has a knight, red mage, and and duelist selection, but cant just turn 360 and decide to become an achademic black mage.
>>739140840It will be stronger in evercold
hello I just returned for the free login campaign why does the crafted tank armor look like this
>>739140671It reflects FF I's RDM better than XIV's does. Shit, thinking about it, FFI has more elements to combat than XIV has at this point.
>>739140764>get rid of party buffs and make jobs march to the beat of their own drums more>instantly people look for ways to pigeon-hole them back into minute-by-minute performance and it now doesn't matter that everything about the two-minute meta as we know it is dying, cooldowns are still on a minute or so timerYou guys really don't know what you want. 2m must have done more mental damage than I thought.
>>739140860>the extra damage you cause your mates to deal will be deduced from your overall dpsThat's warcraftlog shenanigans and the way they calculate it (for rdps which is the default) it has nothing to do with the game.
>>739131489why wouldnt you play a red mage specifically to fill out multiple roles?
>>739139059>PeopleIs that really what you would consider the Japanese?
>>739140940The female audience booming and becoming the vocal majority has done irreparable damage to the game's themes and aesthetics.
>>739140940same reason the neo ishgard stuff was just vaguely steampunk idol outfits
>>739140981Imagine if RDM could queue as a healer or DPS
It is going to be so fun seeing droves of people leaving the game, because Evolve means encounter design will be more akin to the first boss from Strayborough and no one liked that.
>>739141020now you understand 1% of the pain that cozy gamers go trough
>>739140961That is, quite literally, how you are going to play new Dragoon optimally. You are a retard.>3 jumps>first is TN>second is Life Surge (forced DHC+life steal)>Third activates GeirskogulYou will always want to do J2>J3 double weave to force the DHC onto a higher potency button that is not attached to your 111. Or, at most, you will attach J2 to the '3' in your 123 for optimal potency. What fucking drum are you walking to? The 60 second timer?
>>739140920Closest I can think of is Tactics Advance and A2 where with only a few exceptions race determines your job availability, Crystal Chronicles where the same applies very loosely (clavat/yuke/selkie/lilty determines "job") and Stranger of Paradise where Jack is the only omni-job guy and Jed, Ash, Neon and Sophia have a prebaked list of jobs they can hold.
>>739140860White mage is fine to do it because it has a pre-class of conjurer which takes shit from spirits but then the argument is>Why isn't thunder or fire white magic tooWhich I don't get either And also that Bio is a black magic staple and not a white magic one
>>739141075Oh, I know... I used to be a Harvest Moon and Rune Factory fan. Both series that started with male protagonists.
>>739140920please don’t bring your retarded limiting choices from WoW to ff14, thank you.
>>739141123It doesn't matter that cooldowns are still determined by 30s, 60s, 90s, 120s. That's not what the two minute meta IS. Are we opposed to the idea of cooldowns? We're being retarded on purpose for the sake of having an argument and pretending that jobs having fucking cooldowns means they're ACKCHULLY still buff slaves yoked to everyone else.Nothing that you're talking about matters as far as that buff-whoring meta.
Why you don't tell me she's cute?
>>739140940It's not always my aesthetic but idm having an armor set like this every once and a while.The weapons can be hit or miss and it's a shame that the scouting/casting weapons aren't purple to match their armor though.
>>739141256We did, but that's nu-Prishe and she doesn't act anything like the real one.
>>739141041shouldve made evolved rdm full healer
>>739140712>>modern slop faggotthis pisses me off so much, or those stupid coomer retards running in bikinis
>>739140671How about the original FF1 RDM that starts spamming Temper and Haste as soon as they become available?
>>739140948That's kind of the thing. XI is a true classic MMO, so buffs, debuffs, management of MP and items, autistic amounts of statistical minmaxing and knowing what to use and when were key, because they were effectively online embellishments of classic RPGs which in turn were based off from pen and paper stuff. And since that's how Final Fantasy started, that's just how it rolls, even if XI was streamlined enough to run on a PS2 controller. XIV being a theme park MMO where it's far more streamlined and straightforward will literally never be able to compare on a functional level, because all those stats are just stat sticks and modifiers on top that will never really work the same way; even Eureka, Bozja, OC using custom actions on top doesn't really change that. It's about your spot and your rotational, everything else is pretty much cut out of the byline besides Item Level and a food, tincture or party buff.XIV hit mass appeal because of it, but its fundamental design philosophy will permanently keep it from ever being much of an RPG or a dynamic one comparable to older games. You can't stack Materia skills on equipment and characters. You can't really diversify how your Paladin plays from any other Paladin. You can't even hope to truly change the game in a bigger fashion, just how each thing plays. This isn't inherently a bad thing for the game by itself, at least, but it makes it difficult to really contrast it to the rest of Final Fantasy because it can't ever play like Final Fantasy beyond job identity gimmicks.
I'll finally be able to use speed materia.Damn.
>>739141536Most likely it's going to be the preferred materia type too
>Vercure gives 20 white mana if it restores HP>any Verblackmagic gives 20 black mana if it critsWould it be kino?
I really hope the changes to zones will be cool.
>>739141607It just makes more senseSUPPORTING GIVES YOU WHITE MANADOING DAMAGE GIVES YOU BLACK MANAIT'S JUST AESTHETICALLY CORRECT
>>739140948FF1 red mage is 'cast TMPR on the Master/Knight'
Give it two more expansions and the combat looks like this
>doomers claim the changes were because of their efforts>doomers are now dooming their own effortslove to see it
>>739141763I'm sort-of excited for whatever zone changes they're going to make, invalidating the entire concept of foray zones like Eureka by just folding it into the MSQ zones would be cool.
>>739141860>basic attack>dodge/dash>special attack>ultimateLiterally Evolved DRG lmao
>>739141223You clearly don't play any MMOs but XIV, so you have no idea how rotations function outside of this game. Ordinarily, there are multiple difficulty levers to pull for rotations outside of pure timers: DOTs, self buff management, debuff management, multiple timers. XIV doesn't have any of these anymore. There is only pressing your buttons on cooldown.Everyone complaining about the 2min meta is actually complaining that the game is only fun to play during burst while doing a mechanic. This will FUNDAMENTALLY not change in EC. You will still only have fun playing the game in burst, because there are no real decisions to be made doing your rotation, as the encounters are not designed for it.You can, right now, log in and play a full selfish comp where nobody is tied to any buffs. DRK/GNB/SGE/WHM/SAM/VPR/BLM/MCH isn't even a bad comp. The classes are not going to magically gain decisions to make that they have been aggressively gutting out for the last ten years. WHM lost having to cast to move, and you think they're gonna give SCH 2 dots and shadow flare back? Think DRK will get Dark Arts back?>ohhhh but the encounter design will change!!!There are no AOE rotations in EC. The encounter design is almost certainly set in stone. The encounter design is pretty good even, people generally like the Savage tier, which will function with or without 2min buff windows. But they are going to gut jobs and you are going to be walking into fights that are exactly like the ones in this raid tier and then complain that jobs don't have enough to do. At most, you're getting AoE spam, which is how WoW balances the simplicity of 111 versus mechanical complexity. At worst, you're doing Rep 2 every 30 seconds.
spotted MY HERO today...
>>739141860massive improvement honestly
is amazing the wildly the quality of this treads fluctuate during europa hours compare to american ones
>>739142045What's he looking at?
If you see Avery aka Zerofag post, make sure to tell him to fuck off back to league of legends.
>>739141994>You clearly don't play any MMOs but XIV,>Everyone complaining about the 2min meta is actually complaining that the game is only fun to play during burst while doing a mechanic.>The classes are not going to magically gain decisions to make>There are no AOE rotations in EC.I have no idea what you're even trying to argue past sputtering against the idea that gameplay is getting shaken up for 8.0+.
>>739140032Someone down the line, someone at the MMO factory convinced the others that having more buttons meant the classes played better, but this is simply untrue. fewer buttons with shorter cooldowns is always better than more buttons with longer cooldowns
>>739141994>people generally like the Savage tierThe 10% that engage in it sure. Everyone else will have an even worse time running casual content because Jobs now have the same amount of buttons you have now when loading into Halitali (Hard) or Syrcus Tower.
>>739142107anon, its simply contrarianism for contrarianism's sake. do not engage further
>>739142071can't disagree lmao...
>>739142173For most jobs that's already more buttons than they would have when running Halitali Hard or Syrcus Tower.
>>739141994no the person you are arguing with, but when an MMO relays on buffing to kill any end content it becomes absolutely cancer to play it, it happen to nostale, it happen to elsword,etc.
>>739141256I want sex with Prishe
>>739142107>tl;drThe game has only aggressively simplified encounters, classes, and mechanics for more then a decade. There is no indication whatsoever this will massively shift.
>>739142045I saw this guy in eureka once, his entire clik is sub human chinamen who blatantly cheat.
>>739142289If I put on horse blinders and ignore what we were told at Fanfest, I guess, but that's moving from "argument" into "willful stupidity."
>>739142289But everything we saw about evolved jobs is less simplified. You're an idiot who can't understand that because all you see is less buttons. Trying to explain to you that the buttons are faster, more dynamic, more unique, and require more decision making to use properly is a waste of time.
>>739141771> healer gimps your dps by keeing everyones HP topped upheh, nothing personell kid :^)
>Yoshida turns XVI into an action game with 0 RPG mechanics, despite his slides blatantly lying by stating the opposite>SOMEHOW this happening to XIV is a good thing nowI really don't get it.
>>739139804Wasn't there dialog about how Trabia released some kind of weapon that sparked the climax of the lightning calamity? I thought it was gonna be this, but the boss was more like an anti-virus thing in the simulation? Weird.
>>739142386Bringing up FF16 is critical levels of non-argument
>>739142381>If health is high >overheals and grants a shield insteadHEH NO PROBLEM BRO >:^)
>>739142302>clik
>>739142386you've been saying there's no rpg mechanics in xiv for years. now there's somehow less than none now?
>>739142381>when you have to play with other people in an MMO
>I'm not going to speculate that they might improve the game>But I am going to speculate that they will make it worseYeah, because you are in fact a doomer little nigga.
>>739142335>Trying to explain to you that the buttons are faster, more dynamic, more unique, and require more decision making to use properly is a waste of time.Holy buzzwords. Are you referring to people being able to shift their big buttons around for 40 seconds as 'dynamic' and 'decision making'? Because we already have that in VPR.
>>739142471Yes actually. Every expansion removed more and more RPG mechanics.
>>739142335I can just watch the rotation of Evolved DRG and know factually it has lower APM then current DRG, this is a terrible argument. How are the buttons 'faster'? What decisions are you making? When to press it? Because the answer is going to be on cooldown with a 20s~ safety window.How are the jobs less simple when we're reducing the ONLY thing in XIV that makes them hard: pressing the buttons in the correct order?
I never really gave a shit about "endgame" raiding or savage/ultimate/whatever but I really enjoyed Bozja. Did they ever add anything like that again?
>>739142580I'd assume because raid designs will shift about to give you decisions to make in regards to that jump you're talking about since it has True North and a Spineshatter Dive/Dragonfire Dive move-to-target baked into it. If raid designs won't change, well, the devs said they would at Fanfest, so this is instance #427894 in this thread alone of saying the devs won't change anything because they won't change anything.
>>739142574so there's been no rpg mechanics now for years, how are they still removing them? yuo can't have 0 mechanics to the point you've been saying its not an mmorpg since shadowbringers
>>739142528>Holy buzzwords.I don't think you know what a buzzword is.>Are you referring to people being able to shift their big buttons around for 40 seconds as 'dynamic' and 'decision making'?I'm referring to the fact that current DRG has no decision making. You are on a strict schedule with no variance, no thought to where you put your jumps. Everything is decided for you when you do your opener and that's your life for the next 10-20 minutes.Evolved DRG, on the other hand, has no strict opener or rotation. You have to get certain things out to avoid overcapping, but what you do and when is up to you, or up to what the encounter allows you to do. Your jumps are now something you consciously think about. "Can I get my positional here? Should I spend a jump on it?", or "I have Sky High ready, should I send it or save it for potential downtime, or maybe that tank tether coming up in a bit?"There's already far more skill expression and unique interactions on evolved DRG than what we have now. Button counts do not matter if the buttons are unique.>>739142580Nobody gives a fuck about APM, bud. People want to play Final Fantasy, not League of Legends. Evolved DRG is also faster at a baseline anyway. It has a faster GCD and faster cooldowns that will overcap faster. There's more to think about more often, rather than just slapping OGCDs for the sake of it.
>>739142658>Did they ever add anything like that again?They added a new foray similar to Bozja called Occult Crescent that is getting more content.They fumbled it a lot though, as it's less engaging than Bozja, and the raid can't be joined for normie runs, it's for coordinated parties/discordfags.
Final Fantasy 14At it's coreIs a Dress-up tranny ERP simulator with minigames thrown ontop
>>739142580>30 apm to 29 apmit's so over
>get rid of Automaton Queen>get rid of Solar Bahamutdo this for me Coldbringer and all will be forgiven.
should I bother with OC?
>>739142783Avatarfag piggu go homu
>>739142850You don't know what an avatarfag is either, huh?
>>739142814when are we getting flappy bird dailies
>>739142845It has FF5 job glamours
>>739142812>it's for coordinated parties/discordfagsyikkkkeeeeeeees
>>739142783MY SECOND QUEEN <3
This motherfucker thinks he's Evolved.
I just want the MSQ to be good. Combat is bad either way and only caters to raiders, no idea why they hate casual content so much.
>>739142386>game made from xiv devs is like xiv>devs state they are moving away from that mentality>actually this must mean they are doubling downevery rpg mechanic in the game besides materia was scrubbed out in 5.0
>>739142874Spare me, you're the only one fooled by it
>>739143072What did you do in Final Fantasy today? Did you take any pictures of Queen Sphene?
>>739142335the jobs are objectively more simple, they even said they're making them simpler multiple times throughout the dev panel. Bard is just neutered to fuck and turned into current summoner 2.0 and healers are dragged behind the building and shot as punishment for having been able to find a shred of joy out of figuring out movement in harder content.The tank changes looked kinda fun but I'm gonna be real dissapointed if only the "main tanks" get parry, and after seeing drg I can only at best be hopeful for melee dps to not get murdered
>>739143118MTs are the only ones to get parries because that's half the point of them being designated MT, though at this time we don't know what being "OT" actually entails beyond the written description
>>739142783Sphene is cute and should come with us in Evercold.I've decided to stop arguing with people about the new combat system. I think it looks fun, and I like the ideas they are going for. If they pull it off, amazing. If not I'll use Reborn mode and hope they put in some nice updates to evolved to fix it.But some people are just blinded by things "looking simple" when you smack a striking dummy, not really taking the time to think about how it might play out in a real fight. There are valid concerns people have about evolved specifically with tanks imo, but really I think a lot of the concerns as far as DPS / combat flow go are misguided or just a desire to be mad about something. I get 14 has been a victim of "Yes Men" in its fandom refusing to call out anything in the past, so I kind of understand the newfound desire to critique the game, I just think these ones are off base.
>>739143118>they even said they're making them simpler multiple times throughout the dev panel.Surely you can provide a clip of that then
What did YOU do in Final Fantasy XIV today?
>>739143118>The tank changes looked kinda fun but I'm gonna be real dissapointed if only the "main tanks" get parry, Every single tank RIGHT NOW already has a parry mechanic. "Press button within 4 seconds of attack" is functionally the same as the parry they have shown, the exception is that you get a glowy OGCD to press. Which is also not now, PLD had that in ARR. The tank merrit is that it literally didn't change. Evolved PLD can do exactly the same things as current PLD.
>>739143101OC and Enuo.Im bad at gpose so I don't take pics. I just enjoy others.
>>739143174Not even in this conversation but diminishing people's concerns to a desire to be mad about something is turbo shitposting. Garbage quality in here all around.
>>739143316except for that fat parry that does blade of honor level damagebut if we ignore the change yea it does the same thing
>>739131489>>no more selfish vs support differenceSo... homogenization?
>>739143118have you played Bard recently?
>>739143296I gposed my WoL making out with Y'shtola.
>the volleyball contest>the basketball rebound and dunk>the baseball matchwtf why didn't you fags tell me EW hildibrand was kino? is DT hildibrand just as good or no?
>>739143372>except for that fat parry that does blade of honor level damageYeah as I said you get a glowy button out of it. And it is nothing new either. Mechanically this has been around, but I'd wager 80% of tanks have no idea they have this.
>>739143404i think DT's hildy is better personally
>>739143443yea man i'm actually hitting a blade of honor DPS level tank parry right now, it's amazing how no tank seems to know they have it
>>739143118>the jobs are objectively more simpleThey're more simple at the baseline because there's not a 30 step opener to memorize anymore. The jobs we saw are more complicated to play properly because you have more decisions to make and less time to make them.>Bard is just neutered to fuck and turned into current summoner 2.0The BRD songs all have different buffs, and you can hold them instead of spreading them out on strict timers. So being a good BRD is going to depend on how effectively you use your songs.>B-BUT MY BUTTON SPAM DAMAGE ABILITIES...!Don't play BRD if you don't want you skill level to revolve around support skills.>and healers are dragged behind the building and shot Because now you have to GCD heal much more often, leaving less room for Glare spam overall? >>739143174>spoilerShe's coming with, it's basically confirmed!>There are valid concerns people have about evolved specifically with tanks imoThe only way they can fuck up evolved tanks is if they make OTs do more damage than a MT getting all his counters. If they get those numbers right, it's fine.
>>739143326I prefaced with "I think" they are misguided for a reason, anon.I just do not think people are conceptualizing how fight design is likely going to change along with this.Do you want more complex fight design? Or do you want more complex job design?You could say both, but that limits the extent to which they can do one or the other.Have you tried the PVP jobs at all? They all feel pretty unique and I like that. If they can match that feeling in PVE I'm all for it.I don't particularly care if the job is "hard" or "easy" to play. I care if its fun to play.
>SB MSQ was considered bad by many players>player numbers went up and spiked further as the expansion went on>DT MSQ was considered bad by many players>player numbers plummeted and continued to drop as expansion went onSo what happened?
>>739143640you subscribed
>>739143296I chorted in the Clyteum, of course.
>>739143296i caught up on the msq and now i'm doing the raid series, alliance raids, and level 100 dungeon unlocks
>>739142783>"evolved is faster">it has lower apm then current DRG>"nobody cares about apm"I agree that apm is a meme btw.Evolved DRG has a strict rotation. You did not pay attention. Your 2 activates Life Surge. Your 3 activates Geirskogul. You have a 40s window to move either of these buttons. That is, in fact, about as strict as current GNB. Realistically, what people will do is just drift it out of mechanics, which creates a huge problem for square: how do you make mechanics hard when everyone is abusing their timers to have to do literally nothing but press 111 during the mechanic?
>>739143640Good gameplay vs Shit gameplay
>>739143640stormblood had good job design and good content
>>739143564>She's coming with, it's basically confirmed!I wish, but this is just copeShe's gonna be forever stuck on city leader jail, sadly
>>739131489Why is Red Mage's token costume basically just SPANISH INQUISITION?
>>739143678It is both faster and has lower APM, they can both be true because two minute bursts heavily inflate your APM. In the current design you JOHN FUCKING MADDEN your keyboard for 20 seconds every two minutes. In evolved mode it's spread out with a faster GCD and faster cooldowns so you're doing more things overall.
>>739143383yes? lots? its not at all currently summoner 2.0 but the evolved one literally is - press shiny gemstone, get 5/4/3 ogcds and maybe 2/3 gcds depending on which shiny gemstone you pressed. repeat every 60s>>739143564>the bard songs have different buffsI mean if you consider "heal/shield/whatever the third one is" a buff sure, but realistically, you are using them off cooldown one after another in near-enough the same exact order, the same way summoner currently uses their 3 egis in near-enough the same order every single time. there is no reason to hold them, as holding them is a dps loss.Healers are murdered because there's literally nothing to do and every single healer main knows that every time they say "you'll have more healing to do!" it's either an outright lie, quickly nerfed because shitters cant do it, or easily taken care of with ogcd heals
>>739143734>>739143741UH OH WEEOOWEEWOOWEEWOO SECONDARY ALERT SECONDARY ALERT
>>739143564>She's coming with, it's basically confirmed!Did I miss something? Because it seemed to me that she was strongly suggested to not be joining us.I will huff that copium though.>TanksI'm on a wait and see basis for them. I think popular youtube man has a good take on how they could potentially drop the ball on tanks, so I hope they take that into account and don't screw them up. Also I love how GNB feels right now and I really hope they don't mess it up. Though kinda went back to DPSing lately anyway.
>>739142045Hello>>739142085The wall, because I am AFKI need to grocery shop
>>739143774>its not at all currently summoner 2.0
>>739143748Lightning clouds in the EC trailer dough.>>739143774>but realistically, you are using them off cooldown one after another in near-enough the same exact order, the same way summoner currently uses their 3 egis in near-enough the same orderSMN uses the same summons in the same order because there's nothing else to consider about it. They just give damage, and 2/3 are instant cast phases.>there is no reason to hold them, as holding them is a dps loss.Yeah, but that's not the case for evolved BRD. You can hold songs without losing dps, so you can effectively use the buffs they provide.
>>739143382yes but zivvies wont admit it
Raiders don't want to admit it, but choosing your summoner lego is more player agency than pushing 120s raid buffs on cooldown or delaying them based on VOIP guidance and is therefore better job design.
>>739143826>Did I miss something? Because it seemed to me that she was strongly suggested to not be joining us.She didn't have a goodbye scene and there are storm clouds in the trailer. Lightning and ice are opposing elements like light and dark, so we could be linking them up. Plus Calyx is an antagonist and he's Sphene's ex-friend.
>>739143889replace vizzer with spheneanon
>>739131489Endwalker artifact has the swankiest hat, and that's precisely what matters for red mage.
>>739141994>You clearly don't play any MMOs but XIV,you say this like its a bad thing the other alternatives are WoW and maybe Guild Wars 2 lol they're all shit
>>739143943compounded problem, those two are friends and "spheneanon" is lorebook spammer
>>739142302The Eureka farmers are actually quite kind, none of them cheat either
>>739140417I maimed RDM for a while. It's fun and not too difficult, with many tools to make them useful in basically every situation. I took them through Eureka and Boza almost exclusively because of high damage and healing / res abilities. They're surprisingly mobile with their gap closer and back-hop. Unfortunately as a jack of all trades they are of course a master of none. Overall I put them in my A-tier,
>>739143795you lost babydick nigger. nobody likes current job design and it's going out the window
>>739143382There is no difference between selfish vs support when everyone has the same 120s 5% damage increase button and everyone pushes their big boy 120s 1K potency attack at the same mark.
>>739143943flavour of the thread avatarfag vs the eternal avatarfag with 16 hours of faggotry per day for 5 yearsIt's no contest
>>739136282Blowing thick loads in Zepla's worn out hag pussy!Slapping into her smelly pubefilled gash over and over with no restraint!Desperately humping her over and over to fill her used barren womb up to the brim!
>>739143889ok, this one made me kek, good job anon
>>739143920Summoner is widely looked down upon from all the different levels of player skill from story goer to no life parsebrain
>>739131489SMN is gonna lose res but WILL keep physick as part of the 16 buttons they're allowed to keep. Energy drain, painflaire, and fester are all gone tho.
>>739144053
>>739136510The very first post you linked is the one who asked dumb lalanigger
great I wont be able to beat the beatrix fight before the free login period runs out because nobody is signing up for it
>>739144147make a pf party, yung nigga
>>739144079That's a cute opinion, which mishappen chair video did you get it from?
>>739143881the buffs dont matter though, they're just a regen/shield/ms buff. The dps skills you get from using your songs and then using radiant finale does matter though so you're still gonna want to use it on cooldown
>>739143769Evolved Dragoon has a 2.5s GCD timer.
>>739144147what datacenter
SB had prior stuff built up that players were still kind of invested in seeing where it went and the job design was in a fine place. Fast forward to DT and it's supposed to be the start of something entirely new, meaning it didn't have a whole lot built up beforehand, and then the MSQ story fell flat on its face. At the same time, jobs had been homogenized and made more braindead for a while so they were becoming more unfun to play than ever before.
>>739143978>>739143943Jokes on you. Sometimes I post Viz's pics just cause I think its funny now.Free the artbook spammer.
>>739144358>>739143640Didn't add the post I was replying to like a retard.
>>739144235guess I could try. >>739144345light
>>739144079does the Balance still not have dedicated SMN mentors or job guide writers because they all stopped playing it in endwalker
>>739143982This is actually the biggest shit post I've ever seen in my life and I almost want to go onto ABBA and call you all xivggers.
>>739144358Yeah, but DTs numbers went up because people realized that while DTs main story sucked insane ass, the raids were really good. Also EC hype brought some back too.These new captcha piss me off.
>>739139804Anima would have been the final boss of the cut Garlemald expac.
it's interesting people stand next to me but never say hello, if you're that person just say something already damn
>739144562There he is!!! The "actually dawntrail is... le GOOD!! because of my subjective opinion on raids" guy
>>739144649Why don't you say something?
>>739144258>the buffs don't matter because they aren't damageYou don't even realize how completely fucked your way of thinking about this game is.>The dps skills you get from using your songs and then using radiant finale does matter though so you're still gonna want to use it on cooldownNo, because the skills accessed through the songs don't use up the full song window. You can hold and then rapid fire songs and still get the full damage value.
>>739139436>auto attacks, which contrary to every retard out there, does amount to free damage over the course of a fightCaster melee attacks kinda stopped mattering after ARR, at the latest after HW. Then the stat calcs got weird around ShB and now red mages and black mages always hit for 1 melee damage no matter how many buffs and crits/direct hits you stack. Meanwhile scholar/summoner books hit for triple digit damage usually but even that's just less than a drop in the bucket at lv100, really.Level syncing down to lv50 content as Scholar is super funny honestly because you become a melee healer, in ARR content those melee hits actually add up and Art of War has the same potency as Ruin, so you just slap the ground and let the autoattacks rip in the meantime.
>>739144675I said my piece chrissy
>>739144562Ever since the Lodestone made stuff private by default it's been hard to actually gauge where numbers are at, the last true insight we had was Playerscope which died pretty quickly as a result of being an enormous security violation on top of the showrunner for it hoarding data to no clear end
>>739143640Eureka was the first of it's kind and kept lots of people engaged. Omega was the first full tier of the post-Creator raid design and was well received and engaged with and job design and identities were all much stronger. In DT:Occult Crescent is more boring and worthless to grind than both bozja and eurekaArcadion is very good but job design is in the gutter so no one cares about it or much of the other good bad content rn.
>>739144737>Caster melee attacks kinda stopped mattering after ARR, at the latest after HW.No, I had to auto attack as a SMN in TOP because it amounted to around 2% of total damage on a fight with very tight dps checks.
>>739144562DT numbers went up after 8.0 was announced
>>739144809We all know it's fake numbers
>>739144761I just go by lucky bancho desu and I dont actually believe numbers went back up in the second half of DT. I'll know when the next Lucky Bancho releases numbers. I kept playing sparsely and only really started getting back into it around 7.35.However since EC/Fanfest I've noticed a large influx on my friend list at least of people who have been gone since basically the start of DT.Additionally I've also noticed a large amount of people who are new to ShB duties since the free trial went up.Really thats all I'm basing it on.>>739144809Believable honestly.
>>739144787Yeah, I suppose summoner and scholar are the last vestige for them actually mattering at all in battle content past ARR.
>>739144957Luckybancho's what I mean, it's hard to trust anymore because its main data collection method has been unreliable for some time
>>739145008It will be reliable again when Evercold releases though.
>>739145041What
>>739145008Currently LB only tracks characters lvl 71 and up.With ShB added to the Free Trial it may raise to 81+
>>739145041When Evercold releases and the numbers are up it will be reliable again, you'll see.
>>739144787I'd have to eyefuck logs, but I highly doubt you were getting 2% damage PER PHASE from autoattacks. Maybe overall, but that wouldn't meaningfully contribute to the DPS checks in each phase unless you had some genuinely terrible players in your group.
>>739145101That's a problem in and of itself that it'd only be semi-reliable at or around expansion launches
>>739131489>best RDM sets are from the alliance raidWhat are you verbros getting first? Duelist or Warlock?
Can evolved mode make this fucking balancetroon piece of shit rope already?
>>739144735the reality is that though, since they arent damage the only one that matters at all is the movespeed one and at most you'll end up using it right before a mechanic to make it a smidge easier. the heal and the shield though are mostly pointless. Maybe your healer will take it into account but more than likely they wont and they'll just overheal everyone to being topped off instantly.Either way you're still forced to be using them once and only once for every time you use radiant finale, which you're gonna use as soon as you can since its huge damage, and since in the gameplay we see of it so far it has no cooldown the gameplay is just gonna be "song-song followups" back to back 3 times into radiant, with filler 1 and making sure you dont overcap the dash, rinse and repeat for the entire expansion.
>>739143734>>739143741>>739144358>>739144768So we're all in agreement that MSQ quality does not matter to the overall game then? Because since SHB people have been saying that the MSQ is all that matters, but if SB was bad MSQ yet still a huge consistent increase over HW which was good MSQ, then that means MSQ quality is not the big factor of player retention.
>>739145196Duelist
>>739145207>he didn't archive his HW logsruh roh
>>739145207>>739145345I privated all of mine
>>739145269I mean it matters somewhat. The only reason people don't overwhelmingly consider EW putrid dogshit bottom 2 expansion is because they liked the base MSQ alot. All the patches were shit content with DT-tier storytelling.
>>739145345I’ve never uploaded a single log despite having a ton on there.
>>739143101No, I take Prish.
>>739145539
>>739145462Other way around anon DT has EW-tier storytelling
>>739131808I find buffing to be one of the most fun parts of an RPG. In FFXI, I played Scholar and would AoE Phalanx and En-spells and stuff, having to take party composition and enemy resistances/weaknesses into consideration, and it always made all the melees lose their fucking mind. My real life best friend would kite Kirin as PLD and to help him I'd AoE Stoneskin onto him, but since it takes so long I'd have to figure out where to stand in his kiting trajectory so that the spell goes off as he runs by. Is that really "lazy"?
>>739143741Stormblood bro here. I agree, it was peak. Amazing content, and I liked the story.
>>739145269Its just two different levels of bad. SB had a bad MSQ, but it was only like kind of bad. It had its moments and i can even appreciate it in retrospect. The worldbuilding was still good (great even the entire Azym Steppe is super cool), there's some good characters. The apex of SB's stupidity was Lyse trying to make peace with tempered ananta, and that wouldn't even make top 10 in stupidest things to happen in the expansion. The writing is atrocious, not just bad. All characters are extremely boring and one-dimensional, the scions are terrible, the worldbuilding varies from bland to nonsensical. Its hard to care about anything in the expansion that takes place in a continent where the entire lore is terrible. It doesn't even feel like anything we do in the new world is canon from how horrible it all is
>>739145632Yes
>>739145539Based
>>739143640ARR-SB players are clearly a different breed from SHB-DT players.I have to say that the overall vibe of the expansion still matters AND SB had more cool moments than DT.
eat rock
>>739145632Yup
>>73914092013 kinda has this. I think there are 6 total roles and each character has access to three (though in the late game you unlock access to all 6, but its super unoptimal so you jaut use the defaults anyways)
>>739145916Truth nuke, I'm afraid.
>>739143640Stormblood wasn't anywhere near as actually bad as Dawntrail. It was mostly vocal complainers about the story, but the story was silly, inoffensive drek with crummy writing that at least forced itself to a conclusion that made sense. And the content was good while the game was still relatively fresh, so it enticed more people to step on in. Dawntrail's story is genuine crap on a stick, and while the combat is good, the content and release schedules have languished with frankly boring, expected and even underwhelming stuff outside of combat for two whole expansions now, and people are kind of tired of it on top of the fucktarded excess grind that "justifies" endgame. People are tired of the formula now, XIV is a known quantity that won't keep amassing new players every week, and it largely depends on how WoW is doing at this point.
>>739145632Dont listen to the fags anon. Buffkings are based. You would have had a ball with Guild War 1's Protection spec Monk, it was all about proactive defensive spells
>>739146227if your 3 characters don't have sentinel you should always unlock sentinel for all characters because of the way damage calculation works. Also I think only two characters naturally have sen so you should always at least unlock it for one character.You can basically always go whatever roles you want, know when the enemy is attacking, switch to sen/sen/sen then switch back.Also because of the way sab/syn works unlocking them isn't that bad other.
I'm currently leveling Paladin and dropping Warrior. I REFUSE to not be the main character of your parties
what is it with late night roulettes and putting you in wacky shit? I just did A Relic Reborn: Hydra
I don't understand how to fucking play nin on fights where they fuck up your burst timing cuz of cutscenes or add phases and so on.
>piggers are the cure all for every disease nowthey are writing they are writing all possible tension out of the setting with shit like that.
>>739146745Nigga what. You probably shouldn't even touch the 3 secondary roles for any character until you maxed your main 3 roles and that would take a while, probably near the end of postgame.And most of them suck at their secondary roles, too, so I never understood the point of unlocking them.Noel and the chick are more freeform in how you build them in XIII-2 IN THEORY, because in practice you should also focus on a handful of roles.
>>739146943
>>739143296Occult crescent. Fucking christ it sucks. Also plugins randomly stop working in CEs sometimes so thats annoying
>>739146921Source?
>>739146759>Every tank rolls Einherjar and Paladin because they want to be the main character.>Parties and statics keep looking for offtanks.
>>739147093You mean >parties say fuck it and replace off tanks with a dragoon
>>739147065Black Souls 2.
>>739147093I hope the item level share and evolved mode kill one trickers. You WILL play Final Fantasy.
>>739147151Sky High will help with tankbusters (maybe, depends on if you can shirk Dragoons) but will do literally nothing for an OT being defensively helpful for the full party>>739147172Four Job Fiesta shits in your open mouth anon
>>739147221>b-but this fan challenge mode...You WILL play Final Fantasy.
>>739147038he coined the term 'piggers' and he's feeling very proud of himself for coming up with something so witty and transgressive, please understand
Honestly, I’m enjoy a lot slowing taking my time with ff14 and exploring the maps and doing the side quests to learn the lore of the areas and just testing job to see which ones I like or not, haven’t have this much fun with a MMO since lost ark launch, witch I dropped thanks to mix-maxing niggers, so hopefully this doesn’t happen on this one
>>739147525>dropped thanks to mix-maxing niggers, so hopefully this doesn’t happen on this onelollmao, even
>>739147525there are dev enforced playstyles. so as such 'minmaxing' in this game is 'playing as intended'and the tranny minmax community discord currently kvetching about the meta being shaken up
No, the roles are there for the flexibility they provide, I'm basically explaining to you how the game works when you grinded your main roles.
>>739147841meant to link.>>739147001
>>739147261if you havent seen the term pigger used for years you're a newfag I'm afraid.
>>739145742Careful, the guy is gonna go to the archives with carefully curated searches to find various posts days apart of those that hated Stormblood.
>>739136282>grifter bitch is backI guess the money she scammed by telling people she was from Ukraine dried up.
>>739141994>Ordinarily, there are multiple difficulty levers to pull for rotations outside of pure timers: DOTs,timers>self buff management,timers>debuff management,timers...>multiple timers.Uhuh.>XIV doesn't have any of these anymore. There is only pressing your buttons on cooldown.Anon...
They really need to do something about automated mods and the bot crisis currently ruining everything about crafting that wasn't this bad 3 years ago.
>>739148124This game is so easily botted that I think they're scared of finding out just how many bots there are desu.I botted so much and for so long that I'm kind of scared of finding that out too desu.
>>739148124I'm really just not gonna do a 30 step craft for 3 potions anymore.
>>739148124I'm botting crafting/gathering as we speak, I don't understand how anyone could do ts live
>>739147749that’s much better than letting people optimize the fun out of the game, so kudos at the devs for that
>>739148124but i dont want to spend 2 hours crafting all my pots clicking 2 macros when artisan lets me do it while i afk
>>739148124i enjoy the crafting. but its pretty much a solved mode at this point. the last bit of fun i had with crafting was doing A ranks on the moon. nothing changed since then
>>739143640Stormblood was markedly better than DawntrailI was just thinking last night about how player numbers continued to rise throughout Stormblood in comparison to DawntrailPeople trying to compare it to Dawntrail were simply not there>>739145916The community was vastly different before ShadowbringersI promise you there weren't nearly as many gay cringe people back thenThe worst you would see is a bikini roe on rare occasion
>>739148124Crafting assistance or "assistance" is a victimless crime
>>739141994>You clearly don't play any MMOs but XIV>says the man who's clearly only played ziv and worlochrist, at least use GW2's breakbars or something as an example
>>739136235>I AM SILLY
>>739148124Have you considered crafting is boring and repetitive?I don't enjoy crafting/gathering, and never will, and I refuse to bot so I will never use them
>>739148191did you see that shit about like half of Russia's oil infrastructure has been droned to death
>>739148124I used to use mouse controller to automate crafting before Artisan.
dont 4get to buy the limited edition mogslop glams before they expire xivsters!
>>739148662I couldn't resist and bought the hair for my lalaSue me
>>739148662This is a man
>>739148662So many people have those realm earrings it's unreal.I thought I missed an event and couldn't believe it when I saw they were store items
>>739148662I’m going to buy dawntrail special edition just for the ark mount, when it goes on sale ofc
I might play a little bit after some years. How are DRK and WAR?
>>739148870Not much different from Endwalker's DRK and ShB's DRKWAR is still immortal
I'm better at figuring out which pixel to stand on with a big dress than pants
>>739136160>>739136235even the most charitable interpretation possible still makes him look fucking retarded because he doesn't have to play the game, he doesn't have to play the rabbit girls and even if he still does all that he still needs to acknowledge that other people like them and he's vastly outnumbered by those people.
>>739148662i want that hair ribbon...twelve help me i don't wanna be a whale
>>739148928Damn, it's a good pick for a main and sub job then.
>>739148124Then make crafting not fucking shit. I'm not gonna spend 10 hours slowly macro crafting gear, pots and food because I wanna raid.
>>739148406They try and do revisionism but it falls flat on its face when we can all look back at the actual post by post and find across the board (4chan, shithole reddit, gaming journalism) that Stormblood was acceptably received with just a generally mid feeling on the story. Stormblood was just 'eh it's okay' for me when I played it. I felt no grand impulse to finish it like SHB and END, but I enjoyed Susano and Shinryu and didn't find anything but the ruby sea to be truly bothersome. And the ruby sea's layout is one of the big culprits for the chore of it more than anything.>>739143174I'd have liked her or Shale to come with us because they are cute and also because of how much of a repudiation of Wuk and all the sycophants for her. >>739143016I want gooder gameplay, but I feel like it's more plausible to expect a great MSQ than great gameplay. Fundamentally the bones of the game won't allow for as good a gameplay as I'd hope for. Like yeah nigga I'd love a BG3 style of being able to resolve quests multiple ways and using my wits or a skill check or environmental interaction.What fucking chance is there of ever having that? It's not 0, it's negative.
>>739148993He's just a mentally ill britcuck libshit, don't think too hard about itHe's mentally raped from all angles
>>739149082Stormblood didn't have a faggot grifter scene of failed WoW streamers to piss in the pool 24/7, albeitWe can't gauge a "genuine reception" anymore when the game now has fifty different horrible sub-groups all trying to dump in their own preferred color of pond scum
>ummm sorry someone didnt stand on the exact pixel you need to be on the raid is gonna blow up and disband now :^)does m12s have this bullshit
>>739142671>its an mmorpg without rpg mechanics
>>739149183>>ummm sorry someone didnt stand on the exact pixel you need to be on the raid is gonna blow up and disband now :^)Just healer LB3 retardIt's week 20+, if you can't beat the check without LB you don't deserve to clear
>Haven't played since dawntrail release>Get hyped to resub after watching the fanfest, but put off actually doing it>Use the 4 days of gametime>Have no desire to resub anymoret-thanks yoshi-p! bravo!!
>>739149183There's actually a much better and more obvious way to do it but PF refused to switch because they all got this one in their heads.
>>739149369el hector strikes again...
What did you do in FFXIV today? i helped 3 sprouts get through holminster switch
>doing normal lundworm or wtv>sitting on my leylines casting>boss does individual aoes on everyone>gunbreaker sits on my leylines and doesn't moveFucking normal mode
>>739149713Broccoli...
>>739136282Is it just me or does this woman look like a giant lalafell?
>>739149739More like Anonbreaker hey hey! haha!
will it be kino?do you trust yoko taro?
Have any of you heavily engaged with Cosmic Exploration? I did a fuckton of Ishgard restoration when that came out and even got the ranked titles but only played through the moon phases. There seems like zero reason to seriously push it at all.
>>739149713I did frontline.
>>739150165As long as I get skintight plugsuits I don't really care
>>739150165I really don't know what to think. It feels like pure crossover slop, but Nier was the most kino alliance raid so far. And I'm a boomer who loves Eva so I marked out as soon as I heard The Beast II so I'm sure I'll find something to be excited about no matter what.
>mfw Doomtrainwhat the FUCKwhy couldn't the whole expansion be like thisthis is exactly what I wanted from the "fresh start beach vacation" expansionwhy did that dumbfuck cat get to hog all the whimsy
>>739150165i want to hear how the butcher cruel angel thesis
>>739150318Such a kino fight.
>>739150165I wish we could have gotten a VP raid set instead, too bad the series is dead
>>739150419Will they spring for the license for Fly Me to the Moon?Probably not since they didn't even bother to get Distant Worlds for FFXI.
>>739150165>we are simprifying and shortening twanty fore maans>preasu looku forwardo to itno
>hey bro, let me ride your wave tooWhat did BJ Bros mean by this
rate Dawntrail's patch bosses from worst to best
>everyone in limsa is gonna be wearing this in a yearbased?
>>739150629That's not Rei
>>739132153>boosted arrow>fey wind>tp songs>mfw watching the monk's tp slowly disappearStormblood my beloved
>>739131489It will come down to whether they keep verraise or not. Unfortunately the "raise tax" is real, even though it shouldn't bePersonally I hope they just get rid of DPS raises, it will give healers that aren't shit more of a place to shine with their watered down kits. And good RDM and SMNs won't be taxed for simply having an ability they only need in prog.With no more raid buffs there should be literally no excuse why the devs cannot have near-perfect parity between jobs.
>>739131489It'd be cool if rdm used melee more instead of it being a burst tool.>>739131808Eat my ass, faggot.
Shan't be playing non-FF raids
>>739150656Who had the bigger humiliation ritual in Rebuild? Asuka or Rei? I think I'm going with Rei.
>enter crowded area in town>crowd talking sound effect starts playing>black guy in your left ear saying i will repeatedly
>>739150165Unless Anno wrote everything and they stick to exactly what he said, I highly doubt it will be notable.
>>739150734I think everyone, considering I didn't bother watching the remake but I know it's a sequel or whatever technicallyI just enjoyed the classic+End of Eva and left it at that
>>739150318Doomtrain and Ueno are such peak fights.
>>739131489You will still be rez mage.
>>739150165I genuinely don't know how you adapt eva's tone and themes into big multiplayer boss battles without just being very superficial about it.
>>739136160https://files.catbox.moe/g2hhf4.mp4This one?>>739136282And?
>>739150165Even if its not kino, it'll be made up for by giving us plugsuit glams
>>739139059Why do people keep saying this shit? All they did was delete a couple buffs you maintained by just hitting buttons it literally changed nothing about how the job plays.>>739140032>complexityIf you think pressing all of your buttons in a 15 second window is complexity, you're an idiot>identityWhich jobs right now have zero of.
>>739150617Valigarmanda EX 10/10, the rest don't matter
>>739140961>instantly people look for ways to pigeon-hole them back into minute-by-minute performance and it now doesn't matter that everything about the two-minute meta as we know it is dying, cooldowns are still on a minute or so timerbro the same day evolved came out i saw posts trying to "predict" and make a chart of the 8.0 evolved rotation for the jobs that were shown off.These fags are completely brainrotten.
>>739148306Also botting rn. Crafting and gathering is the unfun zone, its made to be botted. They should fix it so it takes like 1000x less effort and fun to do.
>>739150617>>739151114This was one of the best fights they designed in yearsYou missed out if you weren't there for week 1, it was amazing
>>739150946i was specifically looking for the actual comparison of bunny girls to hitler, which is like a minute or two before that. but ty for the mp4
>>739140810EW dnc artifact was male suited and there's plenty of options to fit without being a fruit.
>>739150165>first two raids are 8 angels>final raid is berserk 01, kaworu/02, lilith, and then giant naked rei is the final boss>during the leliel fight one guy gets selected to sit in the cuck train the whole fight and do nothing
>>739151172Sorry. Can I interest you in an Alisaie Dildo?https://streamable.com/kalhlx
I've never watched Evangelion and I never willwhen's the Gurren Lagann crossover, that would actually fit a 24-man
>>739151204Make the cuck train guy have to play Parley with Leliel.
>>739141123>>739142580>>739143118>bro this incomplete demo is exactly how drg will be because they totally actually showed off everything each job has in those demos
>>739143678>>739143769It has a roughly similar APM except Evolved is more evenly spread whereas with current it's almost entirely concentrated in the 2m burst piano gameplay. The previous 1m and 59 seconds is just pretty meh.
>>739151412they aren't aware of that or don't care. just let them flail around screeching. it gives them some sort of strange joy
Paladin (now Gladiator)Difficulty 3/5+High magic and physical defense+Natural MP regen+Partywide heals-Low damage-Weak against unaspected-Limited offensive magicWarrior (Marauder)Difficulty 1/5+Highest HP +Highest Strength+Master of melee weapons-Lowest Defense-No magic
>>739151041Everyone keeps saying it because it's true. You don't get it because you're clueless.
>>739150165Is it actually confirmed that Yoko Taro is actually involved in the collab itself, and didn't just help facilitate it? If he just made it happen, my hype levels are off the charts. If he's involved, my hype levels are non-existent.
>>739151412>incomplete demo
watch out guys he posted the smug emet jpg you know he's serious
>>739131489>Fantasy game>Players rather use modern day clothing
Hype for EC is going to drop off real quick when Ishikawa is not writing and still in the advisor chair with Oda and now Maehiro.
>>739151492Yeah bro Death's Design for Viper but with no job-gauge generation was, like, foundational
>>739148124>>739148227I agree that bots should be solved, but on the topic of doing it lolI remember trying to get a house years ago.It wasn't necessarily a "bot" that I used but I just set up an auto-hotkey macro on my PC in front of a housing board like a lot of people did back then and had it loop while I was at work. (the lottery system wasnt in yet)Someone who was in my FC at the time ended up winning it. Then they tried to make me buy extremely expensive stuff from their retainer by setting their retainer right next to the sign board near my character with a lot of cheap shit priced super highly, and tried to publicly call me out for it.Dude was booted and I just denied ever using a bot. (Cause technically it wasnt.)Honestly I would not have really cared that he won the house over me, but I just thought it was pretty shitty that he tried to get my gil in the process that way when we were in the same FC. Like damn, you coulda just said you thought me doing that was kinda scummy or somethin since apparently he did it manually. But I was sick of spamming the same 3 numpad keys for 14 hours while watching youtube instead of playing the game.>>739148306Gathering should be fun. I enjoy it because it actually puts me out in the open world. The nice environments are wasted otherwise
>>739151562>Players rather useSAAAAAAR
they're faking this congestion, and now i can't do a hunt train.>>739151550who is he?
>>739151570I would greatly prefer Ishikawa remain an advisor. Both to dispel any hypebeasting of the woman and her writing ability, and because rotating out writers or elevating new ones to lead for an expac will keep the game's writing healthier in the long run.
>>739151705good. stay off balmung, w*nderer
>>739151508>Is it actually confirmed that Yoko Taro is actually involved in the collab itselfNo, it's just speculation based on the Eva anime project he's working on at the same time.
>>739151759You're right, but everyone already wants her to write everything after Hiroi did the Void and DT. It stems from the unhealthy obsession with work-from-home life that permeated during SHB and EW, modern XIV players want everything to remind them of lockdown life. We are never moving past SHB/EW era of XIV, that is the game's permanent identity forever.
>>739151759This anon is a tranny that just hates real womenKate and Daichi are fired btw
iceheart pre-heavensward and during havensward are two totally different persons lol
VGH.....RVTVRN....
>>739151878Yep
>>739150479didn't we already ger an XIV version of Fly Me to the Moon in Endwalker?
>>739151878not really. the change in personality is actually explained, unlike a few of the other X.5 new characters
>>739148406>People trying to compare it to Dawntrail were simply not thereAgreed.I bemoaned SB a little bit at the time, but I still greatly enjoyed my time in the expansion and despite some MSQ low points, there wasn't any point where I genuinely thought to myself "I should just skip this CS" Something I thought very regularly through all of DT. Something that if a new player asked me, I would tell them I would not fault them even a little bit if they skipped the vast majority of DTs base story. But that I would not recommend they skip any of any other expac.>The community was vastly different before Shadowbringers>I promise you there weren't nearly as many gay cringe people back thenExtremely true. A popularity boost is great for an MMO for many reasons, but man is the "community" that plays this game far more insufferable to be around now. >>739150629We will know for sure how many people have terrible taste based on who is wearing Rei's plugsuit and who is wearing Asuka's.
>>739151878Yes. She's the pre-DT Bakool Ja ja.
>>739151860replying to yourself makes you seem unhinged.
>>739151863Oda is the only writer to make a compelling female character and not kill her off if we are being honest. Maehiro genuinely hates women and Ishikawa is a fujo who writes out women when convenient.
>>739151918I completely forgot about that.How disgusting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez9S8PS2E3I
>>739151927The whiplash is too much though, she's jubilant at the idea of all ishgard being overrun and then you meet in the cabin and she's like "ah no I meant I only wanted the upper caste to die not the poor people :(((" when it's pretty clear she's completely against anyone not siding with the dravanians in 2.X.
>>739152041she's a pretty standard revolutionary anon. they're all that retarded
>>739151964>Maehiro genuinely hates womenHe only hates high class women. He loves whores and gutter trash. Look at how much time in HW he spends sucking Hilda's dick, and then does the same with the Dame in XVI.
>>739151970I wonder if these marketers will ever realize that no celeb obsessed normalfag will ever touch this gameCelebs are on their way out, too
>>739151970I hate you for posting this. I didn't know about this beforehand and now you've ruined my day.
>>739151964>Ishikawa is a fujo who writes out women when convenient.Ishikawa wrote in Moenbryda, Ysayle, Sadu, Cirina and Lyna at absolute minimum, thoughever. I would guess she'd have introduced Krile if not for the fact Maehiro didn't kill Krile instantly, but maybe he wasn't allowed to because she's referential to FF5.
doing the relic in the relic zone does not actualy seem very efficient... 5 paste per critical engagement is slow af
>>739151759I like Ishikawa but she needs supervision and handling. Shadowbringers was good, but it also literally steered the game off a cliff and painted the lore and setting into a corner, rendering it completely and utterly fucked up beyond all repair.
>>739151412>thinking it's actually gonna change when every time they've shown off something like this it hasn't changed>being this dumbmust be nice getting free stuff for being a retard
>>739152095Yeah OC is one of the worst methods of getting paste if that's the only reason you're in there. It's pretty slow and arduous no matter what it is you're doing.
queue tank for mentor roulette on crystal. get a surprise
>>739152071The point is that she is originally meant to show that having the echo doesn't mean someone is a goody two-shoes, they had to immediately dial up the empathy for her at the start of HW or else it would be way too awkward with her tagging along.>>739152073Hilda is basically a non-character in HW though, she gets more development in the SB MCH quests than she does in the entirety of HW.
>>739151759>>739151860>rotating out writers or elevating new ones to lead for an expac will keep the game's writing healthier in the long run.I disagree.Having one writer to push through their own vision of the characters in the story prevents mainstays from every not "feeling like themselves" like what happened in DT. It also prevents weird tonal whiplash and strange objective shifts (though the objective focus can be maintained through writer swaps in something like this due to having a consistent director like Yoshi-P).Theres some "recent" examples you can even look to in media for where this has happened beyond just Dawntrail. Star Wars for example. New writer on not only each movie, but series now, and the results speak for themselves on that.Not that it can't be done, but I'd like some more consistency on things. I would be willing to compromise or concede that point *IF* they prove they can maintain consistency in characterization and story progression. Which up until DT they *mostly* had done so. So I wouldn't be pissed if shes not writing EC, but I will be somewhat disappointed.I will however be pissed if Hiroi is writing Evercold.
>>739151893ok fine i'll RVTVRN
>>739152189>Hilda is basically a non-character in HW thoughYou spend what feels like hours on her, and the whole build-up to her introduction has all these characters around Ishgard whispering urban legends about her like she's some kind of fucking living myth. Maehiro LOVES Hilda.
>>739152189having her shown the error of her ways but immediately not do a 180 is one of the better character developments in the game anon
>killing the people who allowed to be sold into sex slavery is... le bad!uhhh what did they mean by this?
>>739152189>HildaI don't even remember what she does in the MSQ of HW I just remember liking her hair and thinking she was cute.
>>739152229It's amazing really that HW spends so much time on Hilda and obviously paints her as the lowborn answer to Aymeric and then it goes basically nowhere.
>>739152094Apart from Ysayle, none of them were compelling upon introduction. Maehiro added Krile in HW, though.
>>739152185nevermind. it was thordan extreme
>>739152249that bioholes deserve slavery
>>739152219why is my tomra so much yellower than yours
>>739152276Actually are there any of those writer's digests on what they did or did not touch, they recounted what Hiroi wrote prior to Dawntrail MSQ so this'd be an open-and-shut if we have one for Ishikawa
>>739152249I mean, no one faults her for killing the people who actually did it to her. It's that she went so insane that she took it out on the entire rest of her homeland that was the problem.
>>739152249But the Garleans were the ones who allowed that. Everything that happened to her happened under Garlean rule. And all the brothel's clients were Garlean officers and tourists, which is the reason the rebels approached her to be an informant.The reality is that Yotsuyu just wanted to make other people suffer like she did, and the Garleans were just the first to offer her a position in which she could do that.
>>739152098See how no one ever agrees with your retarded opinion?
>>739152304shaders maybeor yours is an older screenshot
I don't care if you keep tanking the market by 50k each time, I will undercut you by 1 gil each time you do it.
>>739152214This is another issue as well, because none of the scions besides Krile, Urianger, and Thancred had any business being in DT. Because of fan service and trusts, they are required to always be present which means you do get shit like DT where characters stop feeling like themselves. Ishikawa's take on Estinien is also one of the earliest signs of this, going from Eorzean Batman to retarded himbo adventurefag. You can even see him retain most of his original personality in a more relaxed situation without resorting to full retard during the SB DRG quests, but from 5.4 onwards he is a completely different character.
>>739152362why didnt the rebels approach her with tacos? were they retarded?
this is still the dumbest shit they ever added to the game
>>739152449We actually used to play the game like this. Unreal.
>>739139623i see this image posted alot but i dont know what it means. what does it mean?
>>739152538Engineers want to know where to reinforce armor on planes.Look at where bullet holes are on planes that came back.Reinforce those areas?No, because those ones made it back. Reinforce other areas.
>>739152337Ishikawa specifically did not write moenbryda dying.
>>739151783Be nice or i wont get you that chicken emote
>>739152483Sushi is basically a taquito sliced up.
>>739152459You mean he developed as a character after his adventures with you and with the war against the dragons ending?Holy shit.
>>739152189Hilda at least has one of the best triple triad cards.
>>739131489You people think it's gonna massively change? Well, let me just laugh at you now, and then again during the job previews. Classes are still going to have their bursts. It'll still be 60/120s based, there's just no alignment on them so you'll only spam them as soon as they come up. Is that really a huge improvement to you?
>>739139315as much as i like the way rdm feels to play, i agree.you should be draining energy from the enemy using black magic, and spending it during the sword phase as white magic to buff or heal the party. rather than it just being a balancing act of two different themes of offensive magic with a bit of swashbuckling thrown in at the end. really lean into the "vampire" theme that rdm has going for it.
>>739150176I got the tools maxed and grinded the ticket mount, I'm not doing the retarded point grind for a fucking color swap robot or the boring ass treasure hunt shit that gives fuck all
>>739152701vampire theme?
>>739152681being able to use your buttons when you want is indeed based
>>739152483THERE IS NO NEED FOR HATE YOTSUYU! WE CAN OVERCOME ALL ODDS WITH LOVE PEACE FAMILY! HAVE A TACO!!!0
>so the baby opo opo was oschon all along!>krile just stares at you and shakes her headI love being the retard of light.
>>739152459I agree that rapid-swapping writers is clearly a dumbshit idea, but Estinien's whole character arc was about mellowing outthat's why he's a direct foil to Nidhogg, they were both obsessed with vengeance but Estinien's the one who reached out for help
>>739152459Honestly Urianger and Thancred arent really even in it anyway. They show up for 10 minutes, fuck off and then reappear briefly before saying they are gonna go explore tural until quite literally 7.5 when we are setting up 8.0>TrustsThey need to not be afraid to just give us some "random adventurer" or merc to fill in trust roles sometimes.Estinien is probably the only character I take issue with on Ishikawa. I really don't like how flanderized hes becoming, but I don't even think thats fully her doing. He was fine in a lot of EW minus the room scene which as a one off is pretty funny. I'm hoping his time away in DT pays off and we get some good moments from him again in EC.>>739152631I'm fine with him changing, but hes become very one note and not in a good way.That said, I did really love his moment with Alphinaud in Ultima Thuel. Regardless of how people feel about that point in the story, those two choked me up hard. >Come... let us follow the wind. It will not lead us astray. He would not.
>>739136235God DAMN Blizzard mindbroke so many people and continue to do so.
>>73915276550-60 class quest, your antagonist is an aether vampire if i recall. not to mention the visual style the entire class has in general.
>Try to finally get to Dawntrail since I quit in post EW MSQ>Run into a "Do a Dungeon to proceed" quest>Lose all ambition again
>>739146786
>>739152631He had a development since his introduction in the DRG quests, and entered character stagnation and regression in 5.4 onwards. This is one of the reasons why people say the scions should die. They don't actually want them to die for the sake of drama, but every scion besides pretty much Yshtola and Alisaie have completed their arc and either have to be painted as retarded to continue their existence and allow other characters to talk to them or change personalities. Not every scion needs to tag along if there's nothing to add to them is the issue. SHB is fondly remembered for the scion characterization because each one had a purpose. DT didn't even provide a decent reason for Krile to exist despite hyping her up as fairly important to the expansion.
>>739152942you just wait til the next burst window it's not really that hard to figure out.
>>739146786Lmao retard
I'm an ancient XI player. I tried XIV a long time ago and didn't enjoy the frantic butting mashing that was the combat. Has the combat changed any since heavensward?
>>739152941its very 'we needed a dungeon here'. but the dungeon itself is solid
>>739152996>uncs when you press more than 1 button an hour
>>739152996yea sorry you gotta do more than auto attack every 3 minutes.
>>739152459>from 5.4 onwardswas written by hiroi not ishikawa
>>739152981While my cooldowns are getting raped. You come back from a cutscene and you can do your 1m burst but your 2m stuff is now 20 seconds out of sync. It's not that hard to figure out how to magically advance my cooldowns I guess
>>739152538Look up "survivorship bias". In the context of the occult crescent and my image, I was trying to say that they overdesigned and reinforced the wrong aspect. Overreliance on CE and fate farming, grinding, unsatisfying rewards. I regard OC as the worst aspects of both bozja and eureka with none of the good.
>>739152681>Is that really a huge improvement to you?unironically yes, go play VPR or RPR or RDM and tell me hoarding resources for the mandatory burst phase is in any way fun or engaging
>>739152594No not that, Maehiro being responsible for Krile's introduction
>>739152431Hard truths take time to swallow. It'll probably be mid Evercold before people finally acknowledge Endwalker as the worst expansion.
>>739153096Not to mention how you have to optimally use suiton like 10+ seconds in advance. How the fuck am I supposed to do that when I was in a cutscene? How the fuck do I keep the optimal flow?
>>739153043>adhd zoomer has a mental breakdown when xhe/xhem needs to press 600 buttons per second to still have less combat depth then a game released 25 years ago
>>739153096>You come back from a cutscene and you can do your 1m burst but your 2m stuff is now 20 seconds out of sync.Wait to line it up with the 2m dumbfuck
>>739152956>Not every scion needs to tag alongWrong
>>739153096it might not be fun, but your miniscule dps for blowing your load asap vs. what the party gains by alignment is worth it overall right now. that's why they're changing it. I am curious what the new meta will look like or if they just go full retard and let the freestyle samurais be king dps
>>739151591>Then they tried to make me buy extremely expensive stuff from their retainer by setting their retainer right next to the sign board near my character with a lot of cheap shit priced super highlyFucking lmao that's actually good. I remember I would just spam trade those people and they would start flling the trade window with their inventory and spamming accept, so I just kept clicking "yes" and wound up getting a bunch of free crap.
>>739153195>drift your cooldowns even longer!Yeah I don't think that's optimal.
>>739153043I was a samurai, I was doing a WS every like.... 15 seconds.
>>739153043keeektrue
>>739153157RDM lines up pretty nicely with 2 minute rotations doesn't it?
>>739152878>>739152631>one noteMight just feel that way because of DT. He was literally pointless there.
>>739153179
I'm not a parsetranny raidnigger so I just slam up buttons whenever they're up.
>>739150629
>>739153235Its funny in hindsight.I would have "technically" deserved it.Its more the fact that the dude was an FC mate lol. Our FC wasn't even a massive one either. It was relatively small/lowkey so its not like we had 500 people of which I only knew 10.
is dawntrail really THAT bad?
HELP
>>739153440keeeeek
>>739153449Yes>>739153450You're fucked bud.
>>739153449Brother you have no idea.
>>739153449Yno
>>739153449It was so bad it actually made CS3 get off their lazy asses and do something with the game. The last time that happened was 1.0
>>739153439If you were to actually do that, then you would really be bad at most dps jobs.
>>739153087Yet EW Estinien is in line with 5.4
>>739153449Yes
>>739153450Why didn't you just deliver the letter to Geimlona
>>739131489Hopefully as a BLM I'll get less flack for maintaining uptime, though unless they un-lobotomize the job with the evolved mode, I probably won't need it. I've barely played the job in it's current form since they put that patch through, I might touch it a bit during the free campaign this month but I'll probably just use WAR instead if it's geared well enough.
>>739153449Story: pretty bad. Music: alrightClass changes: very homogenized Boss fights: if you're a high end raider, then this was a great expac for you. But like 5% of the players actually do raiding. It's hilarious and sad.
>>739153449yes, it simply truly is pure rancid dogshit
>>739153449Yes>>739153450Bro, I think your GPU is dying>>73915364915-20% of players(or more even in some cases) do Savage
>>739153450rest in peace, graphics card
>>739153449About as bad as Heavensward, overall. I'll leave it to the thread to figure out what I mean by that.
>>739153450OOF, bad timing for having gpu issues, rip my boy
Asuka and Rei should join the scions after the alliance raid
>>739153719>the m4 mountreminded of south park every time
>>739153450>the very fabric of the star begun to fray
>>739153043Fuck you. Sorry, it took me a very long time to type this because I don't like pressing buttons, I just use macros.
>>739153450the roe being split into his id, ego, and superego is kinda kino though
>>739153781oh god, eva is the alliance raid? i was just kinda hoping for a one off event. unless we are also fighting the evas I don't see how they have enough boss fights.
>>739153719>15-20% of players(or more even in some cases) do Savage10% does anything harder than normal.
>>739153823[TAB Key][dictionary][party][Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.]
>>739153768so bad it almost killed the game? true
>>739153891>so bad it almost killed the game?I understand you heard this from a WoW refugee streamer, but that didn't happen. What happened was that Gordias broke a ton of statics and shifted most raiders to Gilgamesh or Leviathan.
>>739153450goodbye, GPU
>>7391539543.0 almost killed the game. it did. you can see this on forums from back then
>>739154040I did not. I was there.
>>739153843There's like 8 angels that could easily work as boss fights
>>739153768you mean it was shit because it had little content and part of the content it did have got removed twice for being so shit
>>739154054it did. my static exploded on pepsiman. 5 of 8 of them quit. gutted the FC. i switched to warrior from playing bard as i couldn't stand WM any longer. also played on my lala more those days and ended up getting a new friend group during that lull
>>739153851You're welcome to view the cheevo stats on the websitesI remember the first tier of Dawntrail having an exceptionally high clear rate for an on patch Savage but that's because it was quite easy compared to what came before
>>739153719I wish this potato would ride me like that. I'd be her mount.
the dragoon quest from 50 to 60 was really disappointed coming from the kino that was the ARR one, what a shame, was really looking forward to it
>>739154054>>739154248Let's be fair here, the Savage tier was quite ridiculous and gear gated at the start of Heavensward but what really killed it were 2 other factorsThey took a 6-8 month break after launch and there was quite literally fuck all to do other than the overtuned Savage
>>739154372vizzer is for tomboy taming
>>739153851>10% does anything harder than normal.why did they even make chaotic alliance raid and quantum deep dungeon and savage-only fucked tower after an entire expansion of people complaining that the game had nothing outside of savage to do.
acknowledging that other expansions were commonly critiqued takes away from hatred of dawntrail
>>739154416at least the armor is really cool
>>739154540there's always been criticism but not really at these levels before.
>>739154551They really need to upgrade that armor already.
>>739154540More realistically, it reveals even more so how awful Dawntrail wasAll of these expansions had their problems, yet they constantly increased player counts and are looked back on fondly even to this dayI see none of that with Dawntrail
>mega doodoo
>>739154670word of mouth about the story is the key factor
>>739136282Is this the chick who had the look of utter despair on her face when Wuk appears at your cabin door?
>>739154718
>>739154771yes fucking grifter bitch betrayed us fuck her she should go fucking die and get shot fucking bitch whore
>>739154771maybe
is there a better example of ARR jank still in the game?
>>739136282oh wow. Just saw this thanks to the other guy. She was cuter before with the "regular" girl look. please, just let girls be normal again.
>>739154808>>739154827OMG BASED GRIFTER FOID MOMMY TAKE MY WALLET!!!!!!!
>>739154827kek I feel like this experience is something all my friends had.
grifter is when you have a different opinion than me about anything
>>739154883mr. brappy seething the queen is back
Characters with flaws was invented by big game of thrones to pretend there is depth where there isn't.
>>739140159Hey fuck you, I'm excited for the actual rotational changes but pressing 1 2 3 is fun, I don't want my main combo to be 1 button
>>739154927Grifter is when you complain about the game. Unlike the guy who is literally paid with special access to shill it, which is definitely not grifting.
>>739154927There is no such thing as a based woman
>>739140579The purple hair girl looks like the goldsmith guild leader
>>739141209I mean in more traditional ff.>>739146227interdesting.
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>>739155086This just proves my and Schopenhauer's point
>>739140579there is a fucking faggot in front of me.
>>739154913My friend played DT. Did the MSQ where Wuk Lamat visits you, tells you she wants to tell you something important but not here, you follow her for the whole night and in the end she's like "Ok, I'm going to say it now... I want to be a good ruler like my papa!" Never came back to the game.
>>739155172>hates women>has an abrasive and unpleasant personality beyond this>women hate him for his abrasive and unpleasant personality>schopenhauer yells "aha! see! 'twas only natural the more enfeebled sex should decry its superior!"Really though imagine getting a letter from your mom saying you're fucking annoying and everybody who doesn't like you has a point.
>>739155027one thing I do want to add on about 13's system is the late game jobs for other characters often have a quirk that is also unique to that character, so there are some bonuses for unlocking them too. like Hope gets AOE debuffs which actually makes him much more effective. Fang and Sazh learn haste which is super powerful and also outside their normal roles.
>>739155172This desu
>>739154883i like her because i'm 45 year old peaked in high school never had a relationship and she makes me feel wanted
>>739154883I dont really get the "grift" She just hated DT like anyone with an IQ above room temp.
>>739155372You were incapable of addressing any of his points, you merely deterred to your tumblr brained pro woman brainwashing courtesy of blusky friendsReminder that women hate nice guys and trannies, you're not impressing any of them
>>739155442that fucking whore betrayed us so she's grifting lol and her fucking viewership tanked dumb fucking grifter bitch go sell yourself go get fucking shot
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>>739155372>has an abrasive and unpleasant personality beyond this>women hate him for his abrasive and unpleasant personality>schopenhauer yells "aha! see! 'twas only natural the more enfeebled sex should decry its superior!"This is literally how some people itt behave, so you shouldn't be surprised.
>>739155543Unironically people that take push-back or getting told to fuck off as a sign they were right need therapy
>>739155461Nobody was attempting to address his points and the letter from his mother wasn't a rebuttal of that quote, it was just her pointing out that nobody likes him because of the obnoxious sophistry he constantly used to boost his fragile ego by arguing with people.
>>739155574Yes.But instead they'll samefag themselves in a /v/ thread.
>>739155442"grift" is when anyone disagrees with me about anything. it means that they're not real and they can't hurt me lalalalalala i can't hear you
>>739155583It hits harder with her saying he's got a good heart but he really is just obnoxiously fucking annoying
zepla?she'll always be known as the person who had a melty cause she got filtered by an ultimate she couldn't be carried through and soothed her ego with gacha twinks
bros I'm grifting right now
>>739155665Don't worry, the people that stan her will pretend they don't know that having a melty and then trying to come back like she didn't do that is why other people think she's a disingenuous grifter
>>739155598"grift" is when she used her feminine wiles to manipulate weal pathetic men after realizing what the group consensus was. she had no interest or dedication to making the game better.you know who made a difference? the playerbase saying how shit dt was across the entire web. not some whore grifting off of the game.
>>739155721yeah I'm sure yoshi P didn't care about her opinion at all after he personally thanked her for her criticisms during the EW patches
>>739155709that's what every group of streamer sycophants does
>>739155721has she shown her "feminine wiles" on stream yet? let me know when shoe does been waiting for that shit for years
>>739155771Granted I recall that being before she and most every other streamer had an autistic meltdown about the game in one way or another
did zepla ever complain about job design in shadowbringers?if not, the grift is ening
Honestly if I were YoshiP I'd hate Zepla's guts.>Guys don't expect Island Sanctuary to be everything you want mashed together in one->GUYS GUYS YOSHIP SAID ISLAND SANCTUARY IS TOTALLY LIKE HARVEST MOON AND ANIMAL CROSSING AND STARDEW VALLEY AND INSTANCED HOUSING AND AND
>>739155913I would be VERY surprised if anybody but some Vtubers get media tour special treatment and shoutouts the way streamers did in Endwalker/Dawntrail
>>739155913i mean what prevent them from expanding island sanctuary system to actually become what people wanted with the housing system, useless they engine doesn’t allow them, in which case, fair enough.
>>739156056it's surprising how hard wow of all things mogged it on housing. but then you know, you also have to play wow.
>>739155973nah, they'll give everyone media tour againeven bald fag
>>739156138WoW ain't mogging shit when they have to remove the feature because it's vibe-coded and doesn't work
>>739156138after 20 years? from scratch rather than having to overhaul a preexisting mess? with a dedicated team for housing alone?also it took less than half a year for them to add entire housing skins to the shop
>>739156185>even bald fagbased desu
