>This is what Star Wars fans used to complain aboutkek
>>739136502why
>>739136502It was comical that some guy was apparently stronger than all the Jedi and gave Darth Vader a run for his money. That's hardly the biggest problem in Star Wars, though, even when that came out
>>739138537why is that a problem? it's literally a fantasy series
>>739138537it's just a video game lol
Say it
>>739136502and it's still shit. Modern Star Wars is lame as fuck but some of the games are good.
>>739139051UTINI
>>739138537Its premise was built on absurdity so nobody really cared enough to call it canon. Its about an angry blob of a character going around planets beating everything he can because of game mechanics that were to most SW fans completely foreign to them.
>>739136502Perfect for a video game, but storywise his power level is complete and utter bullshit
>>739139051Maklunky
>>739136502I prefer modern soulless slop wars to actively dogshit slop wars
>>739139395I played Force Unleashed 1 & 2 after KOTOR2 so when I saw Starkiller's extreme feats it reminded me of Kreia's descriptions of the old overpowering Sith Lords she mentions on Korriban, so I just thought "so she was referring to something like THIS".
>a fucking psp port has better controls and more contentis it the only example of this in gaming history?
>EUtards will defend this
I loved EVERYTHING about this game. The PS3/360 version was great as was the PSP version.I do agree the story stuff is retarded but its fun
>>739140903To me, the 6 Star Wars movies and all the Star Wars games I've played are canon. All the KOTOR1 and KOTOR2 stuff happened as they did in my light side playthroughs (because dark side endings would change history too much). Several Jedi council members went to Naboo along with Qui-Gon and Obi-wan.Qui-Gon fought some weird monster with shoulder spikes on Tatoine as part of Jabba's entertainment for some fetch-quest. Obi-wan took Anakin for more podraces between Episode 2 and 3. Starkiller started the rebellion. Starkiller crashed a Star Destroyer on the Raxus Prime surface by using the force. Starkiller died(?) Starkiller 2(?) destroyed the Kamino cloning facility and brought Darth Vader into custody but later disappeared for whatever reason. Kyle Katarn obtained the Death Star plans and handed them over to the rebellion. Kyle Katarn fought Boba Fett in the "Imperial Capital" (I presume that's just how Coruscant was referred to before Episode 1 released). Kyle Katarn obtained the legacy of his father and defeated the Dark Jedi Jerec along with his entourage who were trying to take over the Valley of the Jedi. Kyle Katarn falls to the dark side but is turned back to the light side by Luke Skywalker's future wife, Mara Jade. Luke Skywalker runs a Jedi Academy after the events of the 6 movies.Kyle Katarn gives up the force, but regains it to be able to fight the Dark Jedi Desann. Desann briefly takes control over the Valley of the Jedi and creates artificial Jedi after tricking Katarn into revealing its location but then Desann's fleet led by Admiral Fayyar will make world tremble, stars shudder, and... have their own shields fall! Ultimately Kyle Katarn kills Desann. Jaden Korr fights Boba Fett who miraculously survived his apparent "death" on Tatoine from Episode 6.Jaden Korr kills Tavion (Desann's Padawan) who got possessed by Marka Ragnos.
>>739142786>Obi-wan took Anakin for more podraces between Episode 2 and 3.Whoops, this was meant to say "between Episodes 1 and 2".
>>739140903Way less cringe than disneyslop
>>739138116Because why character action with no combo? Please ignore the fact it does have combos that you purchase with points you get from killing enemies, just like DMC, and that despite every face button being a different force power you can still execute them with timed button presses, just like DMC.
>>739136502He holds his lightsaber like a twat.
>>739139051WHITE SLAVERS
>>739143338A combo is a multiple attacks done against an enemy who can't block or attack in the middle. Force Awakened has that, but you're talking about attacks that lead into other attacks, but those don't necessarily combo against every enemy.
>AIEEEEEEEEE DOOKU SAMA SAVE ME
>>739139051You caused this.
>>739144794Thanks George.
>>739144794That TV show made him a cowardly jobber, the cartoon from the early 2000s where he's like an assassin is the best Grievous depiction in SW animated media
>>739136502>This is what Star Wars fans used to complain about
>this was considered the final hoorah for the Star Wars franchise before the Disney buyoutgrim
>>739139051you ruined your own movies in 97 with all those stupid edits and audio changes you dumbass. you wouldn't even give the library of congress a copy of the original so its still not archived to this day so i have to dl pj4k77 or harm's. and then you raped the franchise with phantom menace and everything those other 2 shitty cg filled movies before selling off the husk of sw. fuck you lucas
>>739144685Just saying that was a common complaint, the other one being the lightsaber didn't kill everything in one hit. The lightsaber was never the point of the game, it was in there because brand recognition. The point of the game, from the first trailer, was for you the player to be able to go wild with the force powers, that's what the majority of the devs effort went into because that was the whole point from day one.
>>739140903Looks more interesting than anything the talentless nostalgia baiting hacks at Disney could produce
>>739144794One of my favorite SW villains reduced into this...
>>739145106kys boomerSpecial Edition and Prequels were kino.
>>739142786based
>>739140903Of course I will defend that, the marine mammal protection act makes it a felony not to.
>>739145145It would be weird to complain that there's not enough attack strings in the game. It's not as focused on combos as Devil May Cry, but you're still doing combos.I think it's sort of become a meme that lightsabers in video games should kill in one hit. Apparently it's fine that bullet wounds are fully healed in a few seconds and swords don't cut anyone in half, but lightsabers aren't allowed to work like every other video game weapon.
>>739139051I have issues with a lot of the stuff he did but I will forever curse the fandom for treating him the way they did.
>>739145243>>739144915>>739144935>nooo why isn't he vader clone #5321???
I remember playing it on KB+M and the sequence where you pull the star destroyer out of the sky required a constant downwards motion with the mouse so you had to keep sliding it over the mousepad from the top
>>739136502Why does he hold his saber like this?
>>739145884Go to bed, George.
I was a retarded kid so I bought this for the Wii, thinking they'd actually utilize motion controls to fling mooks around.To my moving stuff with the force was only done with the joystick and I think the only motion controls were waggle the wiimote anywhichway to do generic combo.
>>739136502In our defence we had no idea how bad things would become.
>>739145106Stfu you white slaving toydarian lol
>>739138537in my headcannon darth vader lets himself lose to see if starkiller could kill the emperor
>>739147452The sequel trilogy sucks but Disney managed to put out at least 3-4 good games, along with half of a good tv show and one truly generationally great show.
>>739139051<3>>739136502I was in highschool and kinda growing out of Star Wars at this point. I watched some kid play this at his house and it looked so dumb and edgy, and not exactly what I want out of Star Wars. Played it several years later, and yea it's dumb, edgy, chunni bullshit. What I wouldn't give to go back.
>>739142786my qui gon is known around mos espa as the genocide man
>when you pull a star destroyer down from orbit with your mind
>>739139051Okay I'll say it.The Clone Wars is peak Star Wars.
>>739139051While a lot of the stuff in the prequels and the re-editied OG movies were kinda retarded, they weren't completely immersion breaking (if at all) and fun as a whole and the people complaining about this shit are wannabe directors that are mad at George for living the life they want to live. It's clear that George was the heart and soul of Star Wars as without him, the series lost ALL cultural relevancy outside of megafans because corporate retards don't know what made the series great to begin with and have been raping it for the better part of a decade.
>>739136502Wii version played better.
>>739136502It was a different timeI remember people throwing tomatoes at it when it released but most people in my circle liked it
Just bought the game today for 360. Played it back on PSP but zero memory of it
It was a bad game and probably influenced Lucas selling to Disney
>>739149625They did?
Recanonize Starkiller just because Sam Witwer is one of the only nonretards attached to the creative process of SW right now
Shaak Ti
>>739138116Because super secret super strong oc donut steel
I saw this recently.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7b_OOYTirw
>>739149285Was actually sort of going to be "canon" in TFU3. According to Witwer, there was going to be a scene where Vader just stops fucking around and just no diffs Starkiller.
Was Starkiller in 2 a clone or not?
>>739139051I’m sorry, George.
>>739139051Please come back...
>>739138537Starkiller isn’t even that high in the tier list of crazy Force abilities desu, not when when shit like Darth Nihilus is a thing. I don’t know why purists got so mad over the Star Destroyer sequence(that was already falling) when the first lesson Yoda taught Luke was that size means nothing to the Force.
>>739139051Jar jar meesa favorite characta
>>739153245>battlefront 2 (good though it still has issues>jedi fallen order and survivor>squadronsAnd the generationally great show is Andor.
>>739138537Gen X and millenials have a very weird view of Vader in that he's supposed to be invincible and the best duelist around which is completely untrue and even the OT showed an inexperienced Luke could score a hit. Vader is scary because he's unstoppable, space Jason Voorhes.
>>739156159It probably would have been answered in TFU3, but as of now it's probably up to your headcanon whether he's the original or not.
>>739138537>some guyyou mean kid kidnapped and intensely forced to train for his whole life from like 7 years old and training so hard its inhumane and was like prime early 20s fighting vader whos somewhere in his 30s probably and no longer hunting jedi.i think the least believable part is the fact that he isn't mentioned in anything after him. the game kinda does this half assed "kill everyone leave no witnesses thing" but plenty of people saw this guy and lived and even people who didn't see him would see what he left in his wake and put 2 and 2 together.
What are the best EU novels?
>>739157998
>>739157116There are a few people who insist Vader has 9001 power and can melt anyone with a look. He's definitely not that walking death machine. He is very good at what he does, though, winning a fight against a master trying to kill him in his first appearance and choosing to fight with a melee weapon when spaceships exist. I don't expect him to never have any difficulty in any fight, but him sucking in a fight makes Obi-Wan look incompetent and Luke not seem very special.
>>739157116They misremember his personality from the OT too. I remember seeing anon's bitch about Vader making a quip as he chocked Krennic in Rogue One as if that was out of charcater when Vader always had a very dry and sarcastic sense of humor in the films.
>>739157998Courtship of Princess Leia is peak EU kino. >>739158279Obi-Wan was only buying time for Luke and the gang to get out, there was never any chance of him winning.
>>739158408I only took issue with it being too cheesy, but it wasn't out of character for him yeah. There probably was a better line somewhere in there that got neglected due to the rewrites and reshoots.
>>739158408The Maul show has brought those people that seemingly don't remember Vader out of the woodwork.Vader's an absolute snarky cunt, not this silent unstoppable killer. Dunno where they got the "of course Vader wouldn't speak!" idea from.
>>739157116It has WAAAAAAAAY more to do with the fact that Vader literally jobs every single gle encounter he has in all supplemental Star Wars material, because every hack writer wants to use him as the litmus test for how strong their OC Donut Steel villain/hero is, and people naturally had enough of that trite.
>>739158414>Obi-Wan was only buying time for Luke and the gang to get out, there was never any chance of him winning.NOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE 60 YEAR OLD MAN WHO HASNT WIELED HIS LIGHTSABER FOR 20 YEARS STOOD NO CHANCE AGAINST VADER! THEIR 5 SECOND DUEL WHERE THEY STIFFY TAPPED THEIR BLADES TOGETHER THEN OBIWAN COMMITS SUICIDE WAS VERY INTENSE!
>>739158279Luke was special because of who he was to Vader, not his martial skill.
>>739139863Really?What's in that version that's missing from the 360 and PS3?
>>739156159They literally show you his mangled corpse in the bad ending of 1 that leads to the DLC. And then in the bad ending of 2 he literally gets shanked by another starkiller clone, what do you think?
>>739158829That sure helped, but the climax of the trilogy is him duelling Vader and winning. If it isn't hard to beat Vader in a fight, that isn't an accomplishment.
>>739149625jfo and js are decent gameplay wise, story is nothing to write home about the only other game i could thing of that's halfway decent is bf2, but that game is all style and no substance, it's fun for maybe a round or two then it gets boring
>>739159001The PS2/PSP version is literally a completely different game. It's not a port.
>>739145056Best soundtrack
>>739158408the rogue one hallway scene did immesurable damage to vader as a whole not once in the ot did vader ever just go in by himself to clean up goons, he always had a squad go in with him to do most of the work
>>739139051MACKLUNKEY
>>739159163Sith like to let loose every once an awhile.Sheev canonically used lightsabers whenever he wanted to have a bit of fun cause just merking everyone with Lightning was too easy.
>>739157998Weirdly enough the novelization of Revenge of the Sith. Really good book.
>>739139051Nobody foresaw that disney would just wipe its ass with vidya entirely. we didnt know how good we had it
>>739159858Post-2007 LucasArts deserved their fate.
lego star wars the complete saga is the single greatest piece of star wars media ever and it's not even close.
>>739160065I'll never forgive the Lego games for having actual voice acting later on. Adapting movie plots entire through mumbling, glances and shoulder shrugs was kino.
>>739139051
Anyone reckon 1313 would have been any good?
>>739159060Squadrons even though it was left to die. Mechanically great
>>739160195Who knows. I like the premise.
>>739160195The art prominently featured Alien prostitute zones so yes.
>haven't seen TPM in a long time>"I wonder if it's as bad as I remember">it's not anywhere close to as bad as I remember or as bad as people have made it out to be over the last decade and a halfWhy do people make up extreme hyperboles to try and mask something they clearly don't understand?
>>7391606981 was boring and 2 was bad so its easy to assume the whole trilogy is shit
>>739160774>1 was boringI disagree.
>>739160698TPM was just the continuation of what was already happening in return of the jedi
>>739136502>>739138537The Gendy Tartakowsky clone wars cartoon had the jedi being ridiculously OP to the point it contradicted the movies' canon (a single jedi being a one man army when they get their asses collectively handed on Geonosis). Yet, everyone loved that ridiculous shit while the Force Awakens at least had the excuse of being a character action power fantasy game.
>>739160698The Phantom Menace is more fun to watch than A New Hope.
>>739161221>Force AwakensMeant to say Force Unleashed.
>>739161221usually when people hype up genndy wars they're really only talking about the fordo, grevious, and assaj parts
>>739160698>people love to say "trade disputes and politics bad">original trilogy had trade disputes and politics
>>739161264The Vader force vision in Genndy Wars was cool. Way better than the Mortis shitshow in TCW where Anakin sees his future and then gets memory wiped.
>>739139051Darth Icky and Darth Insanius
>>739161342i agree, but the parts on nelvaan are usually overlooked
>>739161342>the dark side gave him a soi facekek
>>739161301>>people love to say "trade disputes and politics bad"That’s because boomers and GenXers are retarded. It’s even funnier right now with the current political climate.
>>739161358darth chuck and darth sneed
>>739161358Why do people act like this is a sleight against George like it wasn't George telling the dev team to fuck off and that they weren't going to be giving Starkiller a Sith name?
>>739158678Vader gets pummeled to hell in a lot of comics from before Disney but still ends up on-top. You know what actually is bullshit? That stupid quirky officer OC from the disney era that is constantly hounding Vader somehow and always escaping his wrath despite the fact she is just a human with no special powers. That is more insulting than any Starkiller-type taking a round off of Vader.
>>739160195People would've compared it to Bounty Hunter too much and it probably would've not been as enjoyable if we're honest. Decent idea that probably couldn't nail the exact vision by being an Uncharted clone rather than a Bounty Hunter spiritual successor.
>>739161484It's just him taking the piss, same with Maul and Talon being friends because George probably noted that the similar tattoo patterns would've made sense to some degree.
>>739161484because it happened at a time where people thought george was 100% serious about everything star wars related and was incapable of making a joke you can still see it persist to this day when people bring up george and mara jade, often using the robot chicken skit as evidence
Reminder: in Disney's Rat lore, lightsaber crystals are alive and have to be tortured into submission if you want to do bad guy things with your laser sword.
>>739162007I hate disney's obsession with kyber crystals man.
>>739144794Why did Filoni>This fucking sucks actually this character so hard?
>>739162251Because Grievous being cool isn't relevant to Ahsoka Tano or his canine fucking fetish.
>>739162251because filoni doesn't give a shit about star wars if it isn't about his characters this has become extremely clear in the past 5 years
>>739162007What was the reason for bad guy = red lightsaber in the old EU.
>>739162007>>739162075I saw a clip where some chick's lightsaber turned red because her sith hatred was just that badass. Why are they like this?
>>739162581The old reason was typically>Kyber crystals are valuable and important to the Jedi>Jedi have legal first dibs on all sources of Kyber crystals >because of the difficulty of acquiring naturally forming Kyber crystals, Sith create artificial crystals>and they all like redArtificial crystals didn't need to be red (and there were also naturally occuring red crystals) as Luke had a synthetic green crystal.
>>739162581Red crystals exist and are cool. No need to drain the blue out of a crystal or some gay shit like that
>>739136502Why doesn’t this version of the game have a rerelease on psn outside of fucking streaming
>>739162917Just emulate it and fuck disney out of their cut.
>>739145942Cuz it’s edgy but he doesn’t do that in the ps2 and Wii versions for whatever reason.
>>739162961I’ve still got it on old hardware I just think it’s dumb they rerelease the Wii version but not this one.
>>739139051I'M SO HAPPY THE CARBONITE IS GONE
>>739136502It was shit. What came after being shittier doean't change this.>>739138537Pulling a destroyer down was cringe, like C tier anime cringe.
>>739163721It was cool as shit actually
>>739140903Kek
>>739136502Mid game, SW Battlefront on Xbox One/PS4 was a good revival
>>739139051Die, you fat faggot
>>739139051>rename korriban to morabund because he thought it sounded too like coruscant
>>739161221I'm a secondary and all that but whats so bad about it? I just thought it was cool that Jedis and Siths were strong enough to warp the battlefield around them.
>>739163963>tatooine Dantooine
>>739136502this was just an edgy teenager's fanfiction but it was better than anything made by disney by a wide margin
I don't like the game but I liked watching those behind the scenes videos of them talking about and showing Euphoria. I naively thought all that cool tech like wood splintering and breaking realistically, bending steel, ect would be the future of games.
>>739160698I only like the Maul fight.That said I can rewatch the Maul fight over and over again and still like it.
Wish I could get a PS5 port of this and the Revenge of the Sith movie tie-in game.
>>739139051I liked the video games better back then, but that's a problem with the video games industry. The new shows and movies are about on par with Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith as far as tonal consistency and having a coherent plot.
>>739164416I still think about that tech demo to this day.
>>739164416The physics engine is fantastic and is the main reason I actually prefer the 360 version to the PS2 version. Both are pretty solid God of War clones.
>>739164735>that one where they chained stormtroopers together hanging off a ledge until it became "too much" for the top guy and they all fell
>https://youtu.be/7K5euAe6l8w>https://youtu.be/U6fDjN8iY54Shit is fucking lightyears beyond basic havok physics that we are still doing and this was 19 years ago.
Padme's tummy hard carries episode 2.
>>739167760Why was the moff such a dickhead in this game?
>>739138537There kinda used to be levels to Star Wars canon though and this worked because of that, people knew it was ridiculous but it was something we never really saw at the same time so it was appealing because of that. I'm not sure what happened to make people either forget this or break the walls that divided them because I stopped really following it much after Disney took over.
>>739136502That game was dumb but cool as hell.Had a blast.
>>739145106No, they didn't go far enough. But the Blu-ray versions were already complete Disney trash. So the best version is still the 2004 DVD version (NOOOOO you can't just replace the old Anakin actor as force ghost with his prequel version like that! Kek, LMAO even), the only issue is that it lacks "Han shot first" but that's really the only minor issue.
>>739169007didn't the 2004 version also have the original films included as well in the bonus features? or was that a later version
>>739136502He got that 7th gen haircut
>>739138537Vader was getting ass raped by maul in the old eu, there was nothing preposterous about Starkiller
