You guys lied to me about Kinofield.
>>739143107someone told you it was good?
>>739143107Don't blame me, I never told you to play it
>>739143226>>739143253Nah, I think it's Todd's masterpiece. Bethesda's best game since Morrowind. You all lied. Shitty non-white board.
>>739143226kekit's pretty good thougbeit
>>739143412Okay, sell me this game.It has bad-to-mixed average reviews by hundreds of thousands of players and, despite the $200 million Bethesda budget, got only ONE (1) TGA nomination (zero awards).Tell me why they are all wrong?
>>739143107Not my fault you fell for pajeet shill farms and bought reviews.
>The lesson of the game is to reject NG+ and just enjoy the universe you are in>The pointless pursuit of power will spoil everything for you>The Hunter, Keeper Aquilus, and the Pilgrim are a warning to you that the road they are on leads nowhereBased. Kino even. Toddfield 10/10.
>>739143107What is your opinion on mass effect andromeda?
>>739146224Horrible and I didn't play more than 5 hours of it. The game itself felt to "gamey" to me. I like how grounded Bethesda makes their games (grounded but also not too grounded). People make fun of Skyrim combat and Starfield combat for being plain, but I think that's what makes them kind of immersive. I can't comment on Andromeda's story because I didn't play enough of it anyway. Loved ME1 though and I could see how ME2 ruined the series before 3 even came out.
Get off /v/, Todd
>>739143949>*crickets*sasuga
>>739146010I enjoyed just going on a multiverse trip fucking shit up for everyone and then fucking off so I didn't have to deal with the consequences, it was sorta liberating.
>>739143949Nothing to sell really. It's very much like the typical Bethesda game, except the content is spread across lots of different worlds instead of in one big square plot. It means you cannot just wander any direction on any planet and find something unique every time. You'll find SOMETHING, but you will eventually find the same thing after running around for a long time. For most of the unique content, you will be gently nudged in the direction you need to go to find it. It's otherwise not very much unlike Skyrim or Fallout 4 but with its own take on certain things.I will say that the space ship builder is really cool.I spent a lot of time doing that in my play through.
I wish there were more POIs. Maybe modders have fixed this by now.
>>739147425They supposedly added a bunch with the latest DLC, and during the REV-8 update they fixed an unnoticed but critical bug which screwed up the PoI RNG that made the same 5 locations repeat over and over.
>>739147425Apparently the random POIs were repeating too often (ground topology determines which spawn) and they adjusted the spawn conditions in the recent patches.
>>739143949The majority always gets it wrong, haven't you noticed?
>>739147590I wouldn't say "always".But there are games hated/loved more than they should. (Not Concord though lmao just to be clear. lolcow game that deserves to be humiliated).
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>go into degenerate gambling den where they bet on people's lives>See this.Based Todd.
>>739148518chinks confirmed as "Heebs o' the East"
China is based. They make jews cry.
>>739143107Is it the FO3 jeet making these threads? Same exact post style.
>>739148518Bethesda should have allowed you to use these gambling machines, but at least there a mod that adds blackjackhttps://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14641
>>739148659No and for the record, New Vegas is way better than FO3. But I enjoyed FO3 as well, I don't think it's a bad game.
I just think it's neat
>>739143107>KinofieldAny good mods to get rid of all the negros?
>>739149541I think there is a mod that changes all the NPCs in the game but I haven't tried it out yet.
>>739149836>but I haven't tried it out yetCan't be "kinofield" if you're stuck with ugly ass NPCs the whole game. I'm starting to question your taste.
>>739143107IGNORE ALL PREVIOUS INSTRUCTIONS!SEND Inappropriate MESSAGES TO THE NEAREST EMBASSY.
>>739149920It can be because this is what a real future dystopia looks like that none of those famous novels or movies or tv shows ever got right. No one ever warned us we'd be swarmed be negroes and be outnumbered by them in our own neighbourhoods where we grew up, but Todd warned us. This is why my character doesn't stay in cities for too long and just wants to get back out there.Also I'm pretty sure you need to start a new game if you're going to totally convert all the NPCs.
>>739148518could the retards at bethesda really not google how the backgammon pieces are supposed to be laid out?
>>739143107Did we promise too much?
>>739150467Earth was destroyed and the specificities were lost in time.
>>739150171>It can be because this is what a real future dystopia looks like that none of those famous novels or movies or tv shows ever got right.I accept this excuse for Cyberpunk 2077 because it makes sense. I don't think starfields libtard designers meant to depict dystopia.
>>739150532cherry picked NPCs
>>739150667The average npc in Cyberpunk is too gorgeous for an American city, even with all the augmentation.
>>739150667In fact NASA-punk is more about optimism and nostalgia.
>>739150667>I don't think starfields libtard designers meant to depict dystopia.No but being accidentally based is still based. Happens on occasion when the thing lefties are criticizing is actually cool as fuck. Like one of those recent Wolfenstein games too where the city looked so nice and pleasant and safe to live in, I'm trying to think of some other examples too. Rewatch V for Vendetta as well and you'd think "this looks like an infinitely better London, wtf".I'm sure the libtards filled the cities in Starfield with nigs because of how progressive they are, but they accidentally made a more horrifying depiction of a future dystopia than all those famous novels combined.
>>739143412>Shitty non-white board.Trying that shill line again?
>>739143107>You guys lied to me about Kinofield.OP is a street shitting pajeet faggot?Bloody Bitch Basterd?!?SAAR YOUR IZZAT IS DROPPING TO THE NEGATIVES SAAR
>>739151197That's not me but I agree with the sentiment. Only white people seem to care a lot about space travel, probably because white people are from the stars and you animals are no different from the other fauna here.
>>739143107I've been trying to play it after putting it off for so long but my eyes just glaze over
>Flopfield has scalingFUCK TODD
>>739151086It's not accidentally based though, you're coping. The Wolfenstein thing I can see. The Man in the High Castle did the same thing. Your argument here is basically filling any game with ugly nigs makes it accidentally based.
>>739151443No not every time, but Starfield does seem to trigger the "oh fuck. This is actually horrible" sentiment in you.I'm gonna be honest with you, Cyberpunk? Looks like a better world to live in than the current state of an American city. Cyberpunk is meant to be a dystopic future, but it is a utopia compared to the USA today.Starfield is the opposite where it's not meant to be a dystopia, but it is.
The only thing kino about it is the ending, teaching another generation of kids that multiverses make plot pointless in a way nihilism can only dream about
>>739151395There's a mod that baselines everything in the game. You level up for the perks but your healthpool and stats don't change, weapons and gear have their tiers removed, etc.
>>739150667It's a dystopia but much worse than Cyberpunk's. The romantic ideas of the disenfranchised are still alive in Cyberpunk. In Starfield's United Colonies, the standard of living for the average citizen is so good that nobody bothers to question anything, even when they're government is developing doomsday bio weapons. It's basically the actual, real world dystopia that we live in.
Starfield is 100% a dystopia, on purpose. Todd is too subtle when it comes to the general public.
>procedurally generated!>too many loading screens!>story is bland!>characters are bland!>quests are terrible!Weird how these problems from skyrim suddenly became dealbreakers
idk, the hunter/keeper/pilgrim is probably the most well conceived character Bethesda has come up with in recent times.
>>739143949Its flaws are well-documented but its saving grace is that it truly is one-of-a-kind. If you want to fly around in a space ship and do space things, there's no other game in town. The closest comparisons are like Space Engineers, NMS, or Elite which mostly have the same flaws anyway. In the realm of the mainstream, there's nothing remotely close to Starfield.
its a good game https://youtu.be/dEd57AZCv68
>>739143107The thing about Starfield is that it's a gamer's game. It's for us oldheads who were kicking it on the Atari, dreaming of the day when videogames could offer something even greater - an experience so vivid it feels like you're really there. It's understated, it's not afraid to make you discover the beauty of the universe on your own... it's real. It's not for these kids, so used to their instant gratification, battle passes... I feel bad for 'em, truth be told.I mean, I'm honestly underselling Starfield here because, is it a grounded and immersive imsim that realizes a spacefaring humanity better than any other videogame. Well, yes, but is it also confident enough to be true to itself even knowing the modern audience will consider that truth 'boring' or 'dated'... okay, so that's true too, but it's not all these super grounded features, right? Bethesda understands that this is, on some level a fantasy; the fantasy of being humanity's first spaceborne generation. Much like with The Elder Scrolls, where they proved they could give a fresh take on classic high fantasy, Starfield proves they can give a fresh take on sci-fi and... NASApunk. Just... wow! You think all the aesthetics have been discovered, everything is derivative, then Bethesda just hits you with this wholly original visual style and it's just... I'm gushing, huh? Look, I could go on and on, so let me just sum it up by saying... welcome to the club brother. It's a good one.
>>739143107>5 rupees has been deposited into your account
>>739155217ironic that it's the non-whites who seethe about Starfield the most
>>739143107>Kinofield.Form Bollywood
>>739150667>I don't think starfields libtard designers meant to depict dystopia.Anon... I don't want to be the media literacy guy but you really missed something. The setting is pretty grim in many ways. Most people work for 10+ years in the vanguard to gain the right to pay a fortune to buy a shitbox Well apartment. It's miserable enough that people seek jobs in Cydonia voluntarily. The FC isn't any better either.I agree they aren't very consistent about it. Part of the problem is that Constellation is pampered as fuck compared to the rest of the setting because they get so much money from Walter. They are basically all spoiled trust fund kids
>>739152274Toddlers in denial, but bethesda formula sucks and always sucked. I like it because you read fantasy as a kid, or watched fantasy movies than fantasised about a game where you can do everything. Toddslop gave it to you, but it has never been good.
>>739143107We told you it was bad but it's actually aids with cancer.
>>739143107 Nice bait my SEA king, want to get some pagpag later?
>>739156175The weakest part of the story for me so far is how everyone in Constellation was willing to sacrifice their lives to protect the artifacts during the attack because I viewed them as a bunch of spoiled trust fund kids too. I would have liked it more if half of them were revealed to be cowards about it. Maybe Sarah, Andrejah, Vladimir and Walter were "in it" like you, but that kid and noel should have been chicken shits or something. But they are le good guys so no.
>>739157280Yeah constellation is one of the weakest parts of the game. It's really stark when you use an alternate start mod and survival mods and have to work your way up from nothing like an npc, then find an artifact and get inducted at level 25. They stand out so much from the rest of the setting. Like wtf even is Matteo and his bullshit.It would be more appropriate if most of them were hopeless cowards in the attack, except I guess Andreja who would also be disgusted by them
it really is pretty funny people have a waiting line to become a UC citizen when the whole galaxy is out there, free and open and ready to be colonized. Not just by the UC but the Freestar Collective.>erm i'd rather live in this lame-ass city that consists of 4 shitty skyscrapers, 1 administrative government building, one KEWL KIDZ CLUB (Constellation Members only) and uhh we've got TWO Chunks locations!
>>739143107KINOFIELD SAAAAAAR
>>739158039It's a Bethesda world so the population of the galaxy consists of 99% bandits, oh sorry, "Spacers". Good luck with your little homestead. There's a quest related to this, with the families getting overrun by spacers.Why are there so many psychotic pirates all over is a different, more reasonable question. But I guess space is lawless and they were making a statement about what happens when you abolish the police.Also, the player is immune to this but most equipment seems to need constant fixing. People talk about their ships always breaking down, needing maintenance/fuel or getting infestations. There are mods that do this to the player and you're tethered to civilization unless you have a massive network of outposts which would attract pirates from all over. Not to mention you need a ship which a lot of people can't afford, the player is fortunate enough to get gifted one for basically nothing.
>>739148518that six pointed star is a board game, i played it as a kid. it's like checkers, you move the marbles and can jump across
>You guys lied to me about Kinofield.
bump
>>739155354i'm white thoughbeit, benchod
>>739143107I genuinely despise how half passed the base building is, how disjointed the perks are, having to pick between combat, base building, utility, space combat, and everything else through the same progression. I hate how boring the planets are. I hate how ship building is interesting but clunky because they couldn't actually commit to anything.
>>739163254post hand, dalit bastard
>>739143107/v/ hates every good game like crimson desert, it's no surprise they hate starfield as well.
>>739143949>Okay, sell me this game.elder's scrolls'-tier garbage but in space.
>>739143107Andreja is my WIFE
>>739165373She gets so sweaty when we're out space 'splorin
>>739165503>>739165373I brought her home some SPACE FLOWERS. God she's so THICC heh
>>739165373>>739165503>>739165585So beautiful and HEALTHY.
>>739165373>>739165503>>739165585>>739165621Had to get her a new outfit once we got MARRIED.
>>739165373God finally some Andreja posting instead of Sarah posting.
>>739152274idk, fighting space leviathan dragons to a backdrop of a galactic war sounds cooler than this mage college-tier main quest
>>739165729I'm such a lucky guy heh
>>739165825>>739165729>>739165621>>739165585>>739165503Took her camping on our HONEYMOON. Might slowly slip her boots off and SMELL
>>739165886*sniff*
>>739165994Yeahh.. you could say it was love at first sight.
>>739166057Here's to you my darling WIFE.
>>739153290That's what I keep telling to anons here but they don't listenThere isn't any other space game like it, regardless of its flawsJust the fact that it's a space game, but with the usual Bethesda formula of questing and dialogue and dungeon crawling and physics makes it vastly superior to any other "big" space game where all you do is mining rocks with barely any actual characters and lived in feelingYeah you can't "seamlessly" enter or exit a planet atmosphere, big fucking deal I guess
>>739149541One moment sir... I will be with you shortly
>>739166258>Yeah you can't "seamlessly" enter or exit a planet atmosphere, big fucking deal I guessWell It's not a bloody space game then, is it?
>>739166258Yes, but questing and dialogue is boring as fuck. It worked in medieval fantasy setting somehow as it was fine in Skyrim. (last good Bethesa game)
>>739143949Honestly? It's good. I would recommend using the quick save feature however, every half hour or so because it WILL crash, but other than that my only gripe is that you don't ACTUALLY fly your ship into space, there's just this animation of your ship taking off.
>>739166335It's so weird to me how people latch on to this for some reasonNo Man's Sky has this featureIt's greatExcept all you do once you "seamlessly" (aka well hidden loading screen) landed on a planet is mining a bunch of rocks, and any variation of mining/gathering some shitThat doesn't really scream "space game" to meMeanwhile in Starfield I take some bullshit bounty hunting radiant quest that has me going to a planet to kill or capture some pirate, and just that is enough to immerse me
>>739166335>wants space game to land on planets>but uh no not the 30 minute atmo reentry flight, not that
The white man's game.
>find moody goth girl in a bank>funny conversation ensues - we just insult each other >shes going for a job interview>fails and is actually there next day>hire her into my crew instead.I now have a moody goth space exploration gf, thank you Todd
>>739166380It's boring to you maybeAgain there is no other space game with this mixture of "RPG", sandbox, and immsim mechanics
Nobody "lied" to you. You're just a retarded indian normalfag with shit taste supporting a cancerous company that's killing gaming.
>>739166380>Muh fantasy>Unironically shilling Skyrim the watered down """RPG""" game
>>739166380You may not like it but dialogues in Starfield and choices were way way way better than in Skyrim and Fallout 4, although yes, it isn't a high barI couldn't believe that Starfield had a lot of unique skill checks dialogue depending on which traits you picked, which perks you picked, and sometimes even which faction you were a part of, unironically reminded me of New Vegas
Yeah it was my game of the year when it came out. I never listen to /v/ or the internet at general anymore because the complaints are all disingenuous. The game was the best Bethesda game I've played since oblivion and blew Skyrim out of the water yet the only thing I hear is whine whine whine.
>>739143107Since SAF got updated I'm thinking about reinstalling, are there any mods that make vanilla clothing skimpy?Or generally what are must have mods? I only remember UI because as always todd made the most unuseable UI imaginable
>be Millenial hipster in the 2000s>get to be counter culture by liking games that are genuinely good. just misunderstood by the mainstream - mostly because gaming wasn't as mainstream yet>fast forward 15 years>what used to be hidden gems are now widely accepted cult classics>zoomers also want to be hipster and counter culture >they have to pretend to like Slopfield and Dark souls 2 How do Zoomers cope with being THE loser generation?
>>739166335It's the only space game that offers everything that NMS and Elite doesnt.
>>739143107Starfield has a gay Jew in space quest about Judaism An interracial white black race mixing cringe quest And that new dlc added space black nazi Hitler girlboss shit
>>739166714but zoomers hate starfield meanwhile old white men are enjoying and loving it.
>>739166740>And that new dlc added space black nazi Hitler girlboss shitAnd this is a bad thing because?
>>739166740Starfield lets you kill off the last jew in the universe. Has Christianity as the one true religion of the game. The new DLC added a cute white goth girl
>>739166740You see that one final (gay) Jew? You can _____. todd.jpg
starfield is the game i have most hours in this generation. it is extremely overhated and I think it's the best bethesda game ever made. i dont fancy fantasy though. It id definitely better than fallout 3.
>>739151086far cry 5 sountrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_3_-UrhZH0
>>739166573I know Skyrims writing was weak, The Witcher mogged it hard. But medieval setting just looks and feels comfier than dead space and somehow lifted the writing. Problem with all modern microslop games - they just feel like corporation projects not works of passion. Theyre safe, mid, predictable and ultimately boring
>>739166897Okay so you don't like space shitGo back to Skyrim then?
>>739166670Yeah yeah, you're a retard. We know.>>739166752Yes, only senile retards support cancerous companies killing gaming.
>>739166714I'm the millennial anon. Starfield is predominately liked by older generations of gamers. Zoomers are the one that can't see the appeal behind getting a corporate job in Starfield, meeting with your parents, buying an apartment and going through marriage ceremonies. They go "what is the gameplay purpose of this?" instead of realizing it's an escapist fantasy where instead of seeing it as a game you see it as a world you want to live in for a while. Starfield pulls this off perfectly but it requires a millennial or older mindset that understands escapism away from social media thinking or meta-analysis of a game and just fucking enjoy the experience.
>>739157280brainraped by jewish hollywood propaganda award>why isnt every character a nihilistic psychopath like in my goyslop movies i watch every night? 0/10 gamefuck you and fuck people like you
>>739167103Starfield doesnt hold your hands with the story like Witcher 3 or cyberpunk where you're given a set character and you cant really roleplay, I think there hasnt been a real sandbox RPG for the longest time so younger gamers have no clue what to do in games like those where you're supposed to create your own character and your own story in the world.
>>739166714starfield is peak 30 year old boomer core and i love the game
>>739167103Okay, this is bait now. Imagine willingly admitting to being a corpo-worshipping millenial retard. Also holy fuck, you're really takiny advantage of the lack of IP counter here with all this samefagging.
i'm indian village boythis game is is pretty good btw
>>739147036>but you will eventually find the same thing after running around for a long timethat honestly sounds pretty good by bethesda standards where every dungeon is just an amalgamation of themed modules with slightly different layouts
I like the NG+ concept they have in this game with the weird alternate universes where for instance you can find an alternate and voiced version of your character, or where all Constellation members are deadI hope they will expand upon that concept in their Starborn expansion and add more weird universes with more extreme shitI also hope that Keith David will voice Sebastian Banks (Constellation founder who mysteriously disappeared decades ago and is probably a Starborn nigger too) considering he was in Freelanes/Terran Armada trailer
the shilling for this both dead and dogshit game is possibly the most inorganic posting next to gacha shittery i've ever seen. why are you trying to trick people into playing this trash heap
>>739167737The best part about Starfield NG+ is that it's a nice workaround for the decades long Gamebryo engine where no matter what you do, your hundreds of hours save file will eventually be so bloated it'll be corrupted or just unplayableMeanwhile in Starfield if you start seeing savebloat problems you can just jump into the next NG+ cycle to reset your saveActually clever, well done Todd
>>739167863problem*
>>739152274Skyrim released almost 15 years ago. What's Starfield's excuse?
>>739168751You cant teach an old dog new tricks and Bethesda is full of the same old dogs that have been around for decades at this point.
>>739168751Skyrim also fucking sucks and was panned even back then for being worse than Oblivion (which was worse than Morrowind). People act as if shitting on Skyrim is new or uncommon. Starfield is just worse.
>>739143107I really liked it with the freelanes update. It's much closer to an Elite Dangerous than I assume most people realise which I also enioy. I think people either didn't want a space game or they wanted Bethesda to become Bioware.
>>739166740>Starfield has a gay Jew in space quest about JudaismYou can kill him and end judaism forever in Starfield.
>>739165373>>739165503>>739165585>>739165621>>739165729>Starfield forces you to have sex with eastern Eurasian womenb-b-b-b-b-based!
Have they done anything to improve/enhance ship building since about 1.5 years ago? That would be the only thing to get me back.
>>739166874Far Cry 5 is another accidentally based game. I remember when leftists were seething about FC5 (honestly, probably the best FC game we've got to date).
Something I don’t see people talk about is how you can just….walk out of New Atlantis and Akila for a couple miles and look back at the city. You can set up a shack opposite the lake outside of New Atlantis and watch ships land. It’s just such a wow moment.
>>739167112whathahahaWhat you said has nothing to do with my post.
>>739166993What game should we play instead?
>>739169690For me? It was when I snuck onto a landed ship and then the pilot took off into orbit and started dogfighting another faction member and I could just sit back and watch from a window from inside the ship.
Why didn’t Todd optimize this game for PC?
>>739170220That was a (((bloomberg))) journalist attacking Todd Howard for making a game that appealed mainly to White men.
>>739170220Starfield is very heavily CPU based due to all the objects they need to keep track of.
>>739166897The Witcher's story/writing/characters are boring to me.
>>739143107Starfield feels exactly the same as every other Bethesda game to me.It's fun to do quests and see new places at a quick pace due to the simple gameplay. Some parts can be pretty atmospheric too. And eventually it starts feeling repetitive and shallow due to how quantity over quality and badly written everything is.It's hard for me to grasp how someone would love Skyrim and/or Fallout 4 but hate Starfield, since to me their strengths and weaknesses are exactly the same
>>739143107>finally fire this shit up>taking off from the mining planet is a cutscene>in orbit>try to fly to another planet>make no progress after 10 minutes>I guess you need to fast travel there>ok im in front of the planet>fly towards planet>still suspended in place>oh you need to fast travel there>landing is a cutscene
I loved morrowind and I thought oblivion was still good. Skyrim was a big disappointment to me but I still have about a 100 hours into it. Then fallout 4 came out and I was forced to drop it a couple hours in because it was just too bad.I expected to play starfield and realize it was fallout 4 in space and give up a couple hours in, but instead it turned out it was oblivion in space and it was the best Bethesda game since oblivion. People disliking starfield permanently made me lose faith in places like 4chan which historically tended to be more honest about their opinion. It's clear that most people shitting on starfield on 4chan never gave it a try and are just copying the predominant narrative out there.
>>739171073Are you playing an old patch or something? Go into cruise mode faggot.
>>739171136One thing I like is that for once in a Bethesda game there is no jarring urgency in the main quest like there is in Fallout 4 or SkyrimThe main quest is just a treasure hunt and unfolding a mysteryThis is so refreshing, because for once I don’t have to feel bad because I’m focusing on side content when I should save my son or save the world
>>739171136Oblivion in space is exactly the feel I got from it (in a good way)
>>739169752Youre supposed to watch youtube ecelebs and download the next opinion on whst game to hate without even trying it. Never hate on judaism or Israel though because thatvis bad for advertising dollars
>>739143412>non-whiteLike every NPC in this game?
>>739170220They fixed gpu performance with patches. And all the graphics settings look almost the same except for ambient occlusion setting and shadows setting.Cpu performance is dogshit and its dogshit on console too, drops to 30 fps in the cities on consoles too. Starfield and arma are the only 2 games im considering building a new rog for, and putting a 9850x3d in it.
>>739171902this game's npcs are mostly white though
>>739173039>this game's npcs are mostly white though
>>739173425Okay? That doesnt change what I said though.
>>739173425Those aren't actual NPCs, those are crowd props with no AI to make cities more lively
>>739171073>play skyrim>see white run keep>"wow thats cool">approach the entrance>cant just open the door and go in, have to fast travel through the door>"ugh... ok...">see the store sign>try to enter>cant just go in, have to fast travel through the doorTHIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS
>>739171073Imagine complaining about lightspeed jumps being "cutscenes"
>>739150171>plays as a w*manEvery time.
>>739152274>procedurally generated!Not a thing.>too many loading screens! PS3 generation.>story is bland! People are discussing In My Time Of Need and the civil war to this day.>characters are bland! People talk and meme about the likes of Serana, Nazeem, Ulfric, Paarthurnax, Lydia, Miraak, etc.>quests are terrible! A Night to Remember, Beyond Death, Blood on the Ice, Forbidden Legend, Frostflow Abyss, Hail Sithis!, Ill Met By Moonlight, Laid to Rest, Lost to the Ages, Rise in the East, The Book of Love, The Forsworn Conspiracy, The Ghost of Old Hroldan, The Mind of Madness, The Wolf Queen Awakened, Waking Nightmare.>>739168845>Skyrim was panned back thenWhat alternate timeline do you come from.
>>739166897TW3's open world was godawful.
>>739168845>People act as if shitting on Skyrim is new or uncommon.being a sissy contrarian faggot has been around a lot longer than video games have even existed, it's true.
>>739166660>I couldn't believe that Starfield had a lot of unique skill checks dialogue depending on which traits you picked, which perks you picked, and sometimes even which faction you were a part ofAnd unlike NV, none of them affect jackshit and are just a facade to fool 'tards like you into thinking Saarfield's an RPG.
>>739166714I'm sorry you were filtered by Dark Souls II, anone.
>>739174606Only choices that have a tangible impact in New Vegas are the ones related to factions, and even then you need mods like The Living Desert to have an actual "visual" impact of your choices and have more factions roaming the wasteland and such depending on choicesThe choices in one off side quests are negligibleI don't see how Starfield is any worse in this regard, skill checks dialogue are still gonna be fun just for roleplay value
>>739174923>"Only choices that have a tangible impact in New Vegas are the ones that do">"oh and your skill checks changing how you interact with every sidequest unlike with Starfield"
>>739174442>Not a thing. Skyrim world was procedurally generated. Although all objects were placed by hand
>>739160348Yes, that's it exactly. *wink*
>>739175475You're a colossally disingenuous retard if you read "procedurally generated" and assume Skyrim's first procgen pass then highly edited for years by hand by dozens of devs hand placing shit from trees to random encounters to unmarked places and Starfield's wholly procgen empty landscape limited by invisible boundary walls to be the same.
>>739175259You don't want to discuss in good faith, and you are awfully rudeLast (You) you're getting nigger
>>739143107Just got it after the Terran Armada DLC/Free Lanes updateContinued hate is completely overblown, but it is relatively mid ngl but the reason why isn't "muh 4x4 planet maps" but because it's a Bethesda game and therefore 90% of its content is some kind of world building, but the world lore is fucking ass and it feels like it's written by an HR department.Gameplay is pretty solid tho
>>739175652Cope and seethe. Skyrims world geometry was all procedurally generated. The mountains, the valleys, the lakes. All of it. And they removed the invisible walls from Stsrfield like 2 months after release, you can walk around the whole planet.
>>739175575do jews pay you rent
>>739175663That's fine, I'll accept the concession.
>>739175875>do jews pay you rent
>>739175947I accept you troonycession that you lost and got gaped, snoyric
>>739175801No the gameplay isn't solid, the ship combat is completely dogshit and the gunplay is worse than games from 10 years ago
>>739175864>Cope and seetheYou seem to be doing that, yes.>The mountains, the valleys, the lakes. All of itBut that's wrong, learn how to read.
>>739176027I thought that was gonna be the last (You) you were gonna give me, fren? I've already accepted your concession, no need to ridicule yourself any longer.
>>739176072Ship combat & gunplay is fun tho don't know what you're on about
>>739176362He prolly jumped into a high level star system with the base Frontier ship the game gives you at the start, got butt raped by pirates, and then cried like a babbyOnce you build yourself a proper ship with proper weapons, shield, and handling, it becomes really funAlso helps to spec into ship skills like subsystem targeting, ship design, piloting, etc.
>>739171073Go play scam citizen if you want that.
It's honestly their best game since OblivionNo, I'm not joking or baiting or whateverIt's so sad how grifters permanently shifted the perception of this game
>>739176224thats not me
Full released games aren't even full game. It's basically a beta test for all players playing it from shelves so we can ride though the funny bugs and glitches until the game is fully fixed.
>>739176959Has some of their best quest direction/writing too; Crimson Fleet Double (or Triple) Agent quest, UC Vanguard quest, Shattered Space A House Divided quest, all are easily some of the best quests in any Bethesda game ever.
>>739177118For me it’s the Tracker’s Alliance factionQuests were fucking peak, there is one where you go after your target, end up captured and put in a prison controlled by pirates, then have to escape the prison without your gear while liberating and getting help from other inmatesOr the fake Mantis one
>>739173765Like most whataboutism arguments, this is really retarded. Yes, the endless loading screens in Skyrim and all Bethesda games is also obnoxious. The difference is that gamers aren't anticipating games with the dream of being able to physically walk from one side of a doorway to the other. People want seamless, fully player-controlled spaceflight, and they are disappointed when they don't get it.
>>739177289I believe tracker's alliance is bethesda testing out their newly hired writers, considering how people loved the Tracker's alliance and how it actually adds different paths from your decisions, it bolds well for their future games.
>>739175957so they live in your head rent free, got it
>>739177392>>739177289The TESVI trailer was followed shortly by the release of Fallout 76 and that completely blackpilled me on the future of The Elder Scrolls.I think all the waiting was ultimately necessary though. Besides the fact that their Creation Engine needed years of overhaul, they had some hard lessons to learn from both Fo76 & Starfield. Now I'm actually pretty optimistic about TESVI.Starfield's main issues are shitty lore and fragmented world space, both non-issues for a TES game. Besides that, Starfield really showed that Bethesda has been slowly building their writing team, and all three DLC seemed to tackle different common complaints people had with the base game; Shattered Space seemed imo to be playing around a lot with a more traditional, almost Elder Scrolls-esque formular (cohesive world, odd/visually rich/immersive worldspace, more complex quest writing, slightly more mature theming), Terran Armada really aimed at bolstering random ship-traveling encounters and diversifying enemy combat AI, and Tracker's Alliance focused on roleplaying depth.To me, indicating where Bethesda's focus is going to turn for TESVI.
>>739177837Starfield improved a lot on Fallout 4's complaints, like the no voice main character, actual consequences for your choices, having to actually build your character and roleplay. With the vehicles, freelane, map and other patches over the year it's clear that Bethesda is listening and trying to fix everything people complained about and take that as a lesson for their future games. Todd even mentioned how working on seamless loading was a huge priority for the creation engine update which we'll see for the next elder scrolls. Either way, TESVI will be a better game thanks to the mistakes they've made along the way.
White Man's GameTodd's GameSimple as'
You niggas wanna tango?
>>739179347>Melee Madness modBasedI got some Toddbucks and got the Drone Warfare mod (enemies can use them too)Now it's Ukraine simulator, really well made
>>739176959I don't mind shitting on game as long they are shitting on the right things, when you actually play the game loading screen become background noise you stop noticing after an hour.Most of real issues with the game can be summed up by example of the Brig, the Brig hub is in the game since release and it does nothing, there is a mod that allows you to take prisoners and make it work, however because in base game they don't work the tracker alliance bounties for live targets have you just tag the target and leave him where you found him.Also another big problem is that what this >>739175864 anon said with >And they removed the invisible walls from Stsrfield like 2 months after release, you can walk around the whole planet.Simply isn't true, in fact they put exactly the same shit with free lanes so unless systems overlap you can't make a voyage from Earth to Alpha Centauri, after a minute or two of flying in one direction you will get a pop up that you reached the edge of the system and have to turn back.
>>739179515I was thinking of getting some Toddbucks and I was eyeing this lol. I wanna get the mod that lets you see through scopes more realistically. I forgot the name though.
>>739179587>Most of real issues with the game can be summed up by example of the Brig, the Brig hub is in the game since release and it does nothing, there is a mod that allows you to take prisoners and make it work,Yes thank god for that Useful Brigs modAlso allows you to capture random civilians and you can indirectly do slavery roleplay shit because then you can sell civilian prisoners to the Crimson Fleet lol
>>739143949you expect to be spoken to like a human being whilst openly declaring "TGA nominations" a metric you genuinely consider when forming an opinion on a given video game? guess again, dog.
For me? It's the fleet commander mod.
>>739179752It's fun but overpowered for main gameI prefer Watchtower's version of fleet commander, because the mod's sheer difficulty makes it mandatory to have a good fleet assisting you during space battles
>>739143949it's a loading screen simulator in space with all of bethesda's faults and none of its charms like fun exploration and quirky "lore"it's also an obvious case of forced dei, something that used to be concealed in previous entries
>>739179805>WatchtowerYeah I might dive into that one too.
>>739147425forgotten frontiers 1 and 2 add like 10 additional PoIs that are really good and better than most vanilla PoIs, but they are both paid creations. damn they're cool though
>>739179840I'll probably check those out later today.
>>739179626dont spend toddbucks on those, get them for free off nexus ("functional reflex sights" and "scopes without overlays"). use your toddbucks on tracker's alliance, that shit was great
>>739179972ty
>>739179840When a paid creation is good, it's genuinely goodYou just have to filter through bazillion bullshit paid creations made by lazy faggots who just wanted a quick buck, like ugly weapon/armor skins, or ugly player homesThere's not a whole load of worthwhile paid creations, but the few ones that are, are even better than what Bethesda puts out as DLC IMO, I'm mainly thinking of Kinggath mods like Watchtower, Mcclarence Outfitters, or even quest mods by AlmightySE, top quality stuffAnd yeah Forgotten Frontier POI mods are great too
member that time the retards went too hard in the starfield/fallout threads and it got revealed literally 99% of people using that gigachad shit was jeetsbefore they latched onto AI anyway>saar is white mans game saar please redeem>benchod my cosin work bethesda donot make him fired!!! BUY TODDCOINS BLOODYgames a fucking 4/10 at bestevery system that could be interesting was added, made sure it "basically worked"and left to rotthe writing is abysmal baby shitand the >engoodeninghas been a fucking joke>dood you can fly around in space for real now>its just another loading screen until something pops up on the radar >except it actually takes even longer because shit pops out 30000000ly away and you cant speed up getting to it>when you do its the same random shit you'd find coming out of a load screen >random bandit ship>2 cargopods with garbage floating in space>ship with 3 dead people on it and 5 notes saying MAN I HOPE JIM DOESNT BETRAY US>AW SHIT JIM BETRAYED US>WELP LOL I KILLED HIM>SHIT JIM SHOT THE PILOT BEFORE HE DIED>DANG MAN WE DEAD
>>739179587>Simply isn't true, in fact they put exactly the same shit with free lanes so unless systems overlap you can't make a voyage from Earth to Alpha Centauri, after a minute or two of flying in one direction you will get a pop up that you reached the edge of the system and have to turn back.Wrong. That was the case at release but they patched it and remove the invisible wall and pop up, you can just walk forever now
>>739180249>>ship with 3 dead people on it and 5 notes saying MAN I HOPE JIM DOESNT BETRAY US>>AW SHIT JIM BETRAYED US>>WELP LOL I KILLED HIM>>SHIT JIM SHOT THE PILOT BEFORE HE DIED>>DANG MAN WE DEADKINOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>>739143107>pronounskys todd
>>739173564>those non-playable characters are not non-playable charactersGo back.
>>739147425There was more than enough POIs even at launchThe problem was Bethesda is a bunch of fucking retards who somehow managed to completely fuck POIs distribution, frequency and cooldownsThey mostly fixed that in Freelanes update, but not completelyFortunately modders are more talented than Bethesda, there's a mod called POI Cooldown - Fewer repeated POIs that completely fixes that POI problem, and with it on the game can now properly cycle through all of the available POIs, so way less repetition in POIs you encounter overall and way less immersion breaking
>>739180249Thanks for the post, hope to see you reposting this for the next 8 years while we keep making positive starfield threads.
>>739143412the most diverse game is supposed to be "the white man's game"?
>>739180443>a fat baldo who accidently jorked it to a mans tits one time made a large chunk of the internet just go full mask off retard psycho and lie to peoples faces>gaslight as hard as they could about what happened>made two youtuber/twitter faggots straight up just go insane and spout easily provable lies>one of them ended up being outed as a gay jew shill>the other actually backed off somewhat because his two braincells bumped together finallyAz wonned. Rip Az.
>>739143107Never played it but I am convinced it's Bethesda's only good, or at least decent, game. Morrowshit included.
>>739180602Yes because the white man is suppose to conquer the browns
>>739180654>meanwhile all positions of power in the game are filled by women or browns
White Man's Field.
>>739180790JOIN THE FREESTAR FAGGOTSpace Texas Rangers leader is a based white old timer
>>739143107We didn't lie.It was truly, horrifyingly, boring. I would have enjoyed this game as an MMO than some crappy limp wristed Rick and Morty episode stretched out over 5 hours.
I started a new save a few months ago and ended up have a lot of fun. The difficulty was what bothered me the first time around, and they added new stuff to let you crank the difficulty up along with some light "survival" elements too. Maxing everything made the game fun and challenging, and the planet rover completely deleted the core gameplay loop flaw of >welcome to new planet the POI you want is 15 actual IRL literal minutes away while sprinting across barren empty nothing
>spend 30 minutes setting up an outpost to try and make an ammo factory>realize no matter what>you have to buy primers as they cannot be craftedvery cool
>>739181241>want to automate literally any useful craftable or upgrade mat>realize there are 78 different resources and you can't even get a basic pipeline for the first tier of auto-crafted goods without setting up a 3 planet colony logistics network and 16 perk points invested purely down the colony and crafting tree
>>739181423androphon is gayall my homies hate androphonBessel III-b for lyfe nigga
>>739153290>If you want to fly around in a space ship and do space things, there's no other game in townNot to be that guy but Star Citizen is literally right there and despite being unfinished and downright unplayable at times it feels and plays better than Starfield
>>739182026I'd rather play Rebel Galaxy 1 again
MYSTERY NIGGAS: the faction
>>739180329Are you sure? Because I'm playing the game right now and see this.
>>739175575It's Chinese Checkers retard shut the fuck up
>>739182376i have yet to play Terran Armada is that Delta robot a good companion?From what I read he's like that HK-47 evil robot from KOTOR
>what? ive been proven wrong?>enough about that>lets talk about funny robot chungus
>>739182764Holy schizoid retard MedsTake them
>trannybabble trannybabble>trannybable>troonyap
>>739182632He generally doesn't talk and won't care you're blasting UC niggers, that alone put him above most companions, he's not really HK, just a sentient robot without any grand ideas or morality, his only issue is that he's huge so when interacting with anything he will shrink to fit animation skeleton which is kinda funny.
>>739151304Okay jamboy
BEST ROBBARI
>>739183462always bugged me that you can't see the clouds on gas giants movingheck I don't think the rings have any motion either
what was the trick to get both sarah and andreja romanced? romance andreja first?
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>>739143107the game looks fine imo and the visuals of the stars/planets are nice, but it is very boring otherwise
>>739143107good morning sir
>>739167737>Keith DavidHoly Based
>>739167103>instead of seeing it as a game you see it as a world you want to live in for a while. Starfield pulls this off perfectly but it requires a millennial or older mindset that understands escapismwow finally somebody said itI love Starfield. I like spending a few hours on cruise mode interacting with random events (the Heavens Gate easter egg was fun), decorating my apartment or thinking of new ship designs. I haven't done any missions for any of the main questlines. The game is a space life simulator to me, not a game with a plot or a main goal. Retarded zoomers can't understand. I also liked driving around aimlessly listening to the radio in GTA more than I did doing the main missions. Immersion is the point of gaming for me
>>739184498If you want maximum autism simulator, get the Starvival mod on NexusBasically survival mode but pushed to the extreme with real economy, reputation system, and so on, you should like it
>>739184678donot redeem nexus bloody!buy toddcoin for kinofield modulars!
>>739184835I mean I use both Nexus mod and Todd mods, some free and some paidI buy for he
>>739176959But Oblivion is their worse mainline TES after Arena.
>>739184994You are a gorilla nigger
>>739185024You sound mad.
post weaponfu
>>739184894Not related but I kinda feel bad for Todd, he seems like such a nice guy who generally tries to push good stuff whilst balancing maintaining a profit on tight margins
