The joyride was fun while it lasted but you gotta get serious about actually owning your games (virus :from piracy: and DRM free) at some point.no seriously, Steam makes no sense when GOG exists.>muh market>muh workshopmodding websites exist>muh Linuxwho cares you have Lutris for thatand you know, if you're on Linux you're probably the type of person who would actually want ownership.
>please please buy something on our store, we're going bankrupt AIEEEKEK, gogtroons are so funny. Hopefully their shitty store shuts down soon inshallah
>>739173229I don't know why people think Steam is immune from the same problems and incentives that pretty much every other big gaming companies haveIt's not a matter of >Will Steam betray gamers?It's a matter of>How long until we are betrayed?True physical and DRM free are the only ways to not get screwed.
I don't know why you keep baiting for (You)s with your tribalism bullshit. I use Steam and GoG and both are good.>>739173621Steam will not "betray" gamers for as long as Gaben is still alive. Gabe actually wanted to support PC gamers in a time when others were openly crapping on PC gaming and wanted it dead while straight up saying shit like "erm we're putting Gears of War 2 on consoles only because if someone is smart enough to upgrade his PC for a new game, he's also smart enough to use BitTorrent".
I just get the game where it's cheap but still avoid egs like every actual person
how do I migrate my Steam licenses into GOG licenses?
>>739173732>Steam will not "betray" gamers for as long as Gaben is still alive.Remember how beloved Nintendo was under Iwata and Reggie?Or how Halo was the crown jewel of Xbox?I also use Steam, but only because the discounts there are so deep that I'm alright with being screwed out of the few dollars I paid for a game I'll likely play through just once.For any game that is dear to me, GOG or physical all the way.
It's time for me to take a shit in this thread*shits*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ_Km5YSfT0And please actually watch the video before claiming things like "it only works for a limited time" or "it only works on the PC you installed it on"
>>739173621I eagerly await to see the looks on terror on steam drones' faces when the fat kike kicks the bucket and valve launches denuvo 2.0I'd much rather games got sold like in the 90s' again instead, though
>>739173621>I don't know why people think a privately held company is different from a company beholden to shareholdersYes, and this is why I'll never listen to your retarded ass.
>>739173906>Remember how beloved Nintendo was under Iwata and Reggie?No, that was just tendies. Shittendo was always trash>or how Halo was the crown jewel of XboxNo, because it was always trashFor any game I actually care about I buy it on steam, the rest I pirate
>>739173935You need to always have Steam.exe available on your PC.GOG just lets have the games without GOG Galaxy on the other hand.what happens when Steam.exe goes missing? or when it no longer works on Windows$CURRENT_YEAR_VERSION?why bother with this shitty later in the first place?
>>739174005I eagerly await the melty GOGshills will have when their shitty platform shuts down from bankruptcy and they'll mass ACK
>>739174380>GOG shuts down>already have all my games so no big>?????>PROFIT!
>>739174319>or when it no longer works onSame thing as when gogslop stops working on current windows version, download a community patch and keep playingOh, I forgot gogretards don't know how to do that and need daddy gog to preapply it for them. Sucks to be them I guess KEK
>>739174435>steam deprecates your OS because it just does>forced to keep paying kike pajeet nadella to not lose your gameswow you steam drones really are pathetic
>>739174406>steam shuts down (never ever btw, meanwhile gog will die in less than a decade)>already have all my games so no biggie>???>gogtroons melty
>>739174435GOG doesnt need to work in the first place.you can have your games without it.and also, you're pirating your games when you use a community patch, plus it may not work as well as you expect it too since nothing is guaranteed from any thirdparty patch.why bother with that headache in the first place? Steamdrone?
>>739174496steam is not going to shut down in the near future. what they WILL do is turn around and implement denuvo 2.0 the moment the fat kike is out of the picture
name 1 reason I should use GOG instead of Steam
>>739174484>make up shit in your headGogxisters are mentally ill, it's really pathetic>>739174532>community patches are piracy>the same community patches gog shamelessly steals so they can charge money from tech illiterate troonglodytes by preapplying them
>>739174578you own your games. your games actually work forever no catch!
>>739174578you double click it and it just workssteam faces you with this
>>739174572Why?
>>739174632because money
>>739173732Babelshills (jeets) hired by seething jews after Lord Gabe defeated a Soros in a NYC court. Seriously.Also, won't use GOG after ProjektRed after started DEI initiatives. Might as well go full pirate when jews claw their way to Steam.
>>739174619Steam offers that tooSo there's no reason to use gog? More like slop then kek
>>739173229Sorry but gaben > these cheap "developers"
>>739173229I already use gog-games tho
more like ZOGnot falling for it lmao
>>739173229>>muh LinuxUnfortunately Gaben is the only one with money that actually cares about linux gaming, if you never gamed on Wine before proton existed you have no idea what barely working piece of crap for average user it was. The only reason Lutris is a viable option nowadays is because it can run things via Proton as well.
>>739174683>he fell for steamyou're beyond redemption
>>739174724lmao that's not true at allwine has existed before valve and it works just fine
>>739174216That's a valid reason, but I'd still take precautions.>>739174496I'm far more worried about governments, credit cards and especially game publishers themselves pushing bullshit onto Valve than them shutting down.Valve could keep being the good guy, but if you must go through age verification and have intrusive DRM to play your single player games, then what's the point?
>>739174739I don't use that
>>739174216>he thinks corporations are his friendsyou are lost
>polack third world slave developer>asking as much money as americans for his games who have For this reason I will never using GOG. It is exploiting you and full of scammers like typical slavic inbreds.
>>739174276Barrierstation rape will continue until morale improves
>>739174853>he thinksUnlike you
>>739174963>he believes liesyour IQ is below ground level
>>739173229The way things are going we won't even own our own computers anymore in the future, and once they get away with that they'll make it impossible or illegal to locally own anything.China inspired the west to copy their surveillance state, because everyone can see that it works and keeps society harmonious and productive, and keeps kids from becoming addicted, and regulations don't hurt the country's GDP through economic setbacks so now they're gonna do it here.Governments will know everything we do 24/7, and if you play too much Vidya they'll come after you, and if you play the kinda stuff Visa/Mastercard has been flagging they'll just throw you in the slammer. It's already happening in the UK and it's going to appear in the US afterwards, exactly like the Online Safety shit. None of this is spontaneous or reactionary. It's been planned since Covid 19 and them announcing "The Great Reset", what the UN calls the "Sustainable Development 2030 goals" is just this.
>>739174770not only that, but proton wasn't even complete without other thirdparty community contributions like the DirectX to Vulkan translation layer. Valve just packaged all this into "proton".
>>739174739>he fell for ZogSorry that you were raped>>739174773>he thinks those companies wouldn't push the same on gog because, uhm, they just wouldn't okay?In a sense you're correct, by the time that happens gog would've already shut down from bankruptcy lmao>age verification and intrusive DRMGood thing steam doesn't do that
>>739174625Shockingly, you still have to log in to GOG to download your installers too.
>>739175181>he thinks those companies wouldn't push the same on gogHow do you age verify and DRM an offline installer?>Good thing steam doesn't do thatDenuvo and other 3rd party DRM already plague SteamAll Valve does is put a little disclaimer
>>739174496>steam shuts down>authentication stops working>cant play
>>739173229Imagine paying for unprotected exes, lmao, you guys deserve everything that happens to you>As opposite to what?As opposite as getting the same exes for free? Lmao
>>739173229I'm not supporting a company that hates me and wants White people dead.
>>739175491I too used to be a teenager with no money
>>739175554Nothing to do with money. It's retarded to promote a shop whose selling point is "unprotected exes".
>>739175542Valve is the woke'est of them all
>>739173229They have announced thryre workin on linux support
>>739175615True which is why I don't support either company.
Gog is better but has less games. But it's the only download only online store for games I use.Shouldn't cease piracy just because things are free either. Piracy saves the world. Things adjust to it, like youtube. But it's still piracy tohat does it. If left to youtube etc things ban you for saying jews are bad. Like here.Don't forget it wasn't the bad guys that made freedom.
>>739173229If they had a better catalog I'd do 100% of my shopping there, but they don't
Im honestly scared by potential total size in terabytes of my GOG library, nearly 250 positions. Even excluding some free stuff I got and would never touch anyway like Witcher games, it would easily take at least few drives, which are dramatically more expensive now due to AYYY drama.In any case, if either Steam or GOG dies, my games dies with them.
Did no one buy Etrange Overlord?
>>739176414You gotta save up for mass storage anyhow. we live in a digital age, the cloud is expensive in the long run, everyone should have cold storage ready at hands.
>>739173229I'd rather just keep buying games on Steam, crack them and back them up, and play them through Steam in the meantime than buy them on a shit storefront with no features because Steam might go to shit at some indeterminate point in the future.
>>739176414You will always find the gog installers on millions of websites and torrent sites, don't worry
>>739176865Consider that you vote with your wallet. While it's true that GOG lacks a lot of the quality-of-life improvements and features that Steam has. your money is ultimately supporting a shakey ground. third-party patches do not guarantee anything. they work today, they may not work always.GOG is simply games as is.
>>739173229>migrateNo, fuck you. I will keep using both Steam and GOG depending on which one makes more sense for any given game.
>>739174619>>739174625so this entire thread is just a troll huh
>>739177115>GOGshill whose platform is on the verge of bankruptcy making double digit profits in a year calls Steam "shaky ground"Oh I'm laughing
>>739174724Wine works well enough, I still use it for some games when I can't be assed to deal with launchers. It's true that Proton is much better for some games but people give it too much credit when the real thing that actually fixed Linux gaming is DXVK, which you can use with Wine too.
>>739177297Even if GOG disappears tomorrow. if you preserve your games on your harddisk you actually have them. nothing changes.
>>739177402Same with steam
>>739177426>have to use a thirdparty crack that>may or may not work>may or may not crash your PC>may or may not be maleware that demands bitcoin to unlock your drive>bu.. but! Steam offline!good luck keeping the same configuration machine for decades I guessno thanks
>>739173229Quit being a fag. GOG is just fine as it is. Steam removes a shitload of friction for the user. Ignoring the argument of which service is better, you're asking people to migrate elsewhere, and asking them to add more complexity. A better argument would be to whine for GOG to include those features like workshop so people don't have to go searching some shit-ass alternative service/make another account somewhere for mods.>>739173906>Remember how beloved Nintendo was under Iwata and Reggie?What has Nintendo done today to fuck with legitimate paying customers? If I want a Nintendo game, I can buy it digitally, physically or tradable digital keys on a physical item (key cards).>Or how Halo was the crown jewel of Xbox?It still is, problem is xbox games are mostly just skippable.
>>739174669>aaaiiiiiiiiiiiieeee there are women employed at this company
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>>739177896There are women... and then there are womenKnow the difference >taps the sign
>>739173229Actually put all the old school JRPGs on it and I will.
>>739175615Stonetoss is a nazi
>>739173229The Witcher 4 has been exposed and you want people to jump on GoG. Brudda
>>739173229>Bro just support homosexualityNope
>>739178338Valve is a crypto nazi
>>739178375GOG is no longer CD Projekt
You don't own gog games either.
I’m clueless on backing up my gog files on an external hard drive.Can anyone spoon feed a retard please?I fear backing up my games on the drive but then finding out it wasn’t the right way.5tb western digital external hard drive btw. I plan to use it for more than just games.
>>739178450You don't own a pepsi product either, but you own the actual physical material and are free to do what you wish with the physical object it self. same thing goes for GOG game files.you can't sell those files, they're not YOUR GAMES, you didn't make them. but you're free to do whatever you want with the files short of selling them. as is the nature with software.smartass.
>>739178503sorry anon, noone actually uses GOG, this entire thread is a failed troll
>>739178579You own a can of pepsi when you buy it though.
>>739178582Mr. Gabe Newell, don't you actually have a multibillion dollar company to run? don't worry, there won't be any mass migration from Steam any time soon.
>>739178582I actually use gog.I did it because I wanted to archive games in case steam goes down or internet is out and drm free meme.I just procrastinated on backing up the games properly like most gog users.
>>739173229>ownershipwhat do i care about legal fiction?
>>739178768>I did it because I wanted to archive games in case steam goes down or internet is outyou can do that with steam games regardless, just run a steam emulatorthe whole "they can take away your games thing" is true only for tech illiterate retards
>>739178859>just run a thing made by a literal who that may brick your computer and may not actually work all the time
>>739178859you don't even need a steam emulator for a lot of games, you can just ctrl+C, ctrl+V the files and you have an offline version
>>739178503Just copy & paste your installers.There isn't really a wrong way to go about it unless you put them in an SSD that you then forget for 10+ years, leaving it to suffer from bit rot.
>>739179027Why do you keep arguing this point? it doesn't work for all games.even that emulator doesn't work all the time.
>>739179106Fucking skill issue kek
>>739174660private companies don't have to chase infinite money
>>739179096So hard drives have this problem?
>>739179298Hard drives don't. It's only SSDs.Same reason why PS1 discs are fine while some 3DS games are already dying.
>>739174484>steam deprecates your OSno, that's microsoftvalve waited until almost everyone left before cutting supportand you can just use linux
>>739179106because you keep arguing like steam is an evil DRM haven when they couldn't give less of a shit
>>739179442Supporting Windows 7 would've cost them nothing. but the lazy fucks are too lazy to modify their chromium fork to work on 7 and even XP.the API barely changed since the 7 days, but most software deprecates it for no good reason.you can't even run modern Python on Windows 7 anymore.
>>739179389Thanks. I’ll evacuate my ssd files to a hard drive and bash my head against a wall for getting an ssd in the first place.Still less stupid than donating to e girls or paying for onlyfans.
>>739173229You dont own shit on gog either. Saying you can download it and save it can be done with any software retard
>>739178796being legally safe from abuse make things marginally easier for youof course there are always workarounds for people like us, but its a hassle
>>739173621This is true, but some people will just need to learn the hard way. There is no way to trust a giant company. The best "trust" is to just receive what you bought and not worry about the trust issue past that.>>739175357>Shockingly, you still have to log in to GOG to download your installers too.No, I don't. Have you not been paying attention?>>739176414>Im honestly scared by potential total size in terabytes of my GOG library, nearly 250 positions.I have over 600 games and I've downloaded everything but a few huge games, like Witcher and Cyberpunk and some Shadow Warrior games. And that's on a 3TB drive that also has anime and porn on it, as well. If I was more organized, I'm sure I could store every game on that single drive. That includes previous releases, as well. If I'd played everything, I'd probably throw away some that I just don't care about and have all the games I care about backed up.Mind you, I don't have a huge number of 80GB blockbuster games, so your game choice is going to vary in filesize a lot.
>>739173229>no mod workshop>no steamimput>forums suckfuck off>>modding websites existFUCK OFFTry and install mods as easily on your Gothic 2 gog version as it is on steam. Sometimes mods are ONLY available on the steam workshop
>>739173229>>muh LinuxThere's actually a steam deck app that links your gog account and all your purchased games into your steam library. It's called Unifideck and I love it.
>>739175181>>he thinks those companies wouldn't push the same on gogYou can just download your gog installers right now onto a flash and no one can ever fuck with it.
>>739183638I can download my steam games and no one will fuck with them too
>>739183885You keep telling yourself that
Lotsa autist in this thread, huh?>Gog>It sucks>Paying for unprotected shit you can literally get for free same file and everything >If you want chivos and cloud saving you gotta install their shitty launcher which defeats the whole purpose >"Just hoard all your installers, man" lmao, retard
>>739173229You don't own gog games. If you own something, you can sell it. Try putting your download on ebay and see what happens.
>>739184041Nobody is stopping you from doing that. It's just that nobody would pay you because they could just get the installer for free if they wanted to.
>>739184041you don't own the right to sell the game, the same way you don't own the right to sell pepsi cans as the manufacturer. only difference being that it's impossible to enforce these exact same rights on software. because if you own your software the same way you own a physical object then no one can make money from selling you a product as a software. only SaaS remains.GOG is as good as it gets.
>Support CD ProjectNo I'm afraid I'm morally obligated to boycott all companies who shit out woke slopThat means Valve are the only option for me to support monetarily
>>739183885The fact that Take Two can just send you an update for GTA III, VC, and SA that just patches out a ton of licensed songs because of real life legal reasons should concern you. It concerned me, which is why I explored to other preservation methods where people can't just fuck your shit up outside of your control.The point the other anon was making really is that the infrastructure already exists within Steam for consumer abuse if governments or payment processors compelled Valve to make it so. GOG explicitly exists to not even have the infrastructure.
>>739184041You can put that installer on a flash and try to hock it but in all likelihood, >>739184136, because your selling price can't compete with free.
>>739184945New York City is trying to do exactly that >You need to turn your shop into a surveillance platform for every user on the platform, collect government id's and track what they do online because we passed a lawAnd Gabe told them to fuck off and is going to fight it in court and he's going to win, just like with the RothchildsCD Project would bend over a spin around spreading its cheeks immediately for the EU or any government
>>739185124It's good that Valve is doing that and really if PC gaming software had to be under any single party's massively disproportionate influence (mislabeled as 'monopoly') then it's ultimately better Valve than most others, however>Take Two can just send you an update for GTA III, VC, and SA that just patches out a ton of licensed songs because of real life legal reasonsI am an extremist in this regard for anyone fucking with my stuff to any degree, and Valve has not historically behaved in 100% accordance with that. They don't even treat their own games' legacies with a real respect for preservation. If you want to use Half-Life's original EAX or A3D settings, they removed that 13 years ago and haven't deigned us worthy of being able to access it in Betas. Fuck that nonsense.>CD Project would bend over a spin around spreading its cheeks immediately for the EU or any governmentI don't know of any situation where this was demonstrated so far.
didnt the gognigger in charge say he was going to pay attention to linuxx??
>>739186070They really need to work on their GOG Galaxy thing. a missing workshop and in-game browser is most of what they need. and sure give Linux some attention.
>>739173229Way ahead of you brotherhttp://gog-games.to/
>>739184596GOG isn't owned by CDPR anymore. a founder bought it
>>739174005In triangular boxes?
>>739178338You're a nazi
>>739173229no same-day releases really hurts the platformon top of that a lot of outlets have deep discounts ahead of launch for the steam versions
I will never spend more money on GOG because they waste their money and resources making dogshit threads like this to try and convince you that Steam is as bad, or worse than them.Bonus, their entire business model is bullshit, they license the shit to you and their only promise is hey it'd totally be impractical for us to target you if we decided your licenses were invalid even though you gave us your dox to buy shit if you didn't use a fake payment method :)
gog is shit and everyone knows it
>>739173229>no games You still have no response to this.>>739174625I never see that. Who doesn't stay logged in?
>>739177402>pay for cloud storage >obsessively hoard stuff you backed up on cloud storage because the provider realistically might go bankrupt Why not just get reliable cloud storage?
>>739188348GOG>has LoveR Kiss>has Tokyo Clanpool>has uncensored H-gamesSteam>doesn't have LoveR Kiss>doesn't have Tokyo Clanpool>all H-games censored, need offsite patchI rest my case.
>>739188501I don't know what that shit is, but I'd bet money on them being VNs and not games.Steam>has Pragmata>has Space Marine 2>has Mass EffectGOG>has nothing
>>739173229gog cant even bother to add an input system to their overlay to make all games actually playable instead of being forced into m+kb because its a 30 y/o game. Yet they beg you via email, the front page of the store (twice), in galaxy, check out, fuck linux outright, etc. they even expect you to pay them directly to do the thing they claim to exist for- preserving old games.
>>7391888981. No one has an input system that compares to Steam input. Not even close.2. Just add your gog game to Steam? I've been using both services for years.
>>739189253Then gog, the store trying to rival steam to the degree they added their own launcher with an overlay, screenshot function, and friend chat, should take steps to make their library truly accessible with a steam input solution. but nah theyd rather beg and ask you what games you want like its dsp looking for a pokemon stream to chatge 20$ for naming a pokemon.
>>739174406>GOG launchers stop working on modern systems>?????>GOG users mass suicide
>>739189534If I want to use the trackpad or gyro then I'm just going to add the old game on steam man. You don't have to choose between one or the other. You don't even need gog's launcher.>theyd rather beg and ask you what games you wantThat's actually better than anything you suggested. They just added the original versions of the first two Metro games because of what you're shitting on here and, for the moment, they're the only storefront to do so since the Redux versions released. That's actually a qualitative function gog can serve that Steam is trailing behind at best like with the classic Resident Evil trilogy (with Capcom DRM ofc because GOG releases with DRM get thrown off the store like Hitman).I think it's pointless to just make GOG a second fiddle version of Steam.
>>739173229gog games have no value exactly because you can just copy paste it.
>>739173229I love what gog offers and I try to get games there when I can, but they don't have the library to consistently back it, unfortunately. It's really sad, I fear it will go away some day.
>>739179772>Supporting Windows 7 would've cost them nothing. but the lazy fucks are too lazy to modify their chromium fork to work on 7 and even XP.This is a losing battle. Look at how much absolute fucking work Supermium has to do to keep up to date and compatible with 7/XP.
>>739186990speaking of, were they down for half of yesterday or was it just me
>>739191190I mean the argument could be made that Valve SHOULDN'T be relying on chromium in the client.But at the same time, an equally if not entirely way more reasonable assertion could be made that people still on Windows 7 should quit the larp and start using linux.
>>739192491Even if they don't use Chromium, they'd still have to link to outdated libraries that could contain any number of security holes, resulting in account compromises. It's not worth it.
>>739190939Dream list is already something they came up with to know what games to add to gog. begging so you can vote on a handful of games is frankly jarring. ive bought a ton of gog games, being begged at on top is not good. they can at least make their launcher useful since adding to steam is a solution i have to make- and i do. fuck, the community is the reason why i can play gog games on linux easily.
>>739173229Gog uses drm so i won't use it
