this makes certain people very angry lol
Nobody is angry, That was the theme for the first two games. Fake outrage to generate press.
>>739174039You turn/use living fish in to electicity. How is that not dominance over them? Thats worse then killing them
Games that artificially restrict what you can and cannot do are for sub 80 IQ NPCs
>>739174039i'll play factorio and genocide biters to make up for it
>4 threads about the same nothingburger "controversy"Does anyone else have anti-woke fatigue?
>>739174174Probably one of the dumbest posts anyone could have made but you really thought you were cooking
>>739174039This has to be bait
>>739174296It's shills trying marketing by fake outrage. Just hide / ignore
>>739174296maybe if you make another one peoplke will get tired of it
>>739174296Wait a little longer before you samefag your concern troll next time, OP.
Fish lives matter. Become a vegan and end colonialism
>>739174296It's more than the first two games let you do itHere you can't interact with anything, you just swim or drive through everything as if they don't exist because think of the children
>>739174039Can always mod it right
Not playing your dogshit game.And buy an ad, fuckface.
>>739174296No such thing, libtard, stop trying to force an opposite opinion. Shit works on you robots but not on people that think for themselves.Stop creating and pushing shit nobody wants.
>>739174039even biologists carry spearguns thoughsharks can be dangerous
Imagine how good Monster Hunter would be if you weren't allowed to fight anything
>>739174170Gas torpedoes were a vital defense against leviathans in the first game, they had damage values and could kill, so I don't get the drama.
>>739174039it was never about dominating it was about survival, you needed the knife to scare away smaller or medium predators and you would just run from the big ones
>>739174039>>739174296it is a poor design choiceglad I didn't buy it
>>739175419no you should be food for the ecosystem because humans can be printed out whenever they feel like
>/v/ getting mad at a dev standing by their design philosophyDon't you piss your pants when someone demands difficulty settings in a souls game?
aren't there things that want to kill you?
So what happens when I eat fish? Are they teleported back into the ocean before being digested, leaving behind a supplementary pill as thanks?
>>739175759No Mans Sky is about cataloguing planets but doesn't even have an intergalactic catalog / alchemy system to capitalize on the entire exploration angle for resources. It is very lack lustre on fauna and flora diversity you would think they would have tripled their core creature count and definitions by now / improved the eco systems. Or made intergalactic commerce and civilisation more apparent than a fucking catalog and hub station in every quadrant.
>>739174039So they're going to just disable damaging things entirely? Even the first game let you damage things by ramming them, stabbing them and hitting them with the prawn drill arm. If so, I'm glad I didn't pick this game up.>the conquering coloniestFucking pussy SoCals, every single time.
>>739175828wanting to defend yourself is a racist dogwhistle
>>739174039Jews?
>"FISH LIVES MATTER">eats fishEuro devs are such fags. Hell the whole country of Europe is full of retards
WETLIVESMATTER
>>739174039>digital fish lives matter n shietthat's so faggy and lazy lmao
>>739174039faggot game for faggots
>>739174039God gave me dominion over this earth. No faggot will tell me otherwise.
>>739175970o-okay, guess I'll just die
>>739175828The entire plot of subnautica 2 is about being trapped on a world that brainwashes colonists into brutally killing each other. All you do in the game right now is explore destroyed hab facilities and pick up recordings of people being blown up, asphyxiated, drowned or eaten. But you don't get to have shit to defend yourself because violence is bad lol.
>>739174170>Nobody is angryI see plenty of identity politics obsessed retards screaming bloody murder
>>739175461Monster Hunter has it's own variation of respecting wildlife though.Monster hunting is highly regulated, and every large monster you're authorized to kill/capture is due to necessity rather than for sport. There are hunters specifically designated to hunt down poachers/non guild "hunters".This aspect of respect also bleeds into the hunts themselves. You can damage the wings of Rathalos, you can cut off it's tail. But you can't ever truly cripple a monster. You can't cut off it's arms and wings and legs. You can't decapitate it. I think there's one earlier game animation where you cleave a specific monster in half but even then there's no gore from it, it just fades from existence instantly as if it was a glitch.The games really try to treat the large monsters you're facing with respect. You're hunting a dangerous foe, not torturing a poor animal.
Your throne, sire!
>>739174039We need to remember how many poor fish got caught on the sandy hook. #nomoreangling
>>739174296I find anti woke fags annoying a lot of the time but I understand where they're coming from due to the retarded shit we had to put up with during the 2010s. The kind of retarded shit like the statement in the OP. We've already seen a game made with this kind of ideological motivation behind it without being shit, it's called subnautica 1.
>>739174296Name 5 "anti-woke" games.How can you have "anti-woke" fatigue when not a single anti-woke game exist to tire you of it?
>>739176330>kills 100 rathalos for their mantle to make an armorLore never matches gameplay and if it were to match, then the pc would be constantly chased by several fatalis at all times with how much shit one kills for nothing but parts.
>>739176330>you can't truly cripple a monsterIf you break somethings wings so hard they're in tatters, it is permanently crippled
>>739176330>Monster hunting is highly regulated, and every large monster you're authorized to kill/capture is due to necessity rather than for sportSame as irl hunting, at least where I'm from.
Do you not eat fish in these games?Genuine question; I have too much thalassophobia to actually play them.
>>739174039REAL TALK TIMEIs the developer purposefully acting retarded to get attention?Because no one would give a single fuck about them not including weapons if they didn't start talking bullshit like "you're not here to dominate this video game"
>>739176540Yes.
>>739175968I will admit. Accidentally hitting things with vehicles and killing them made me feel like shit. But then I frequently went out and collected the roadkill to eat it. It also made me exercise caution when driving if I didn't want a bunch of dead digital fish on my conscience. It added immersion.>>739176553The funny part of it here is that their stand is fundamentally ecofascist.
>>739174039nobody is mad, it's just as stupid as it always was>yeah its chewing on your leg its eating you but you just have to let it, you cant punch it to death, you aren't allowed to defend yourselfmeanwhile the first thing you do is grab a bunch of fish and eat them, but it's okay because you didn't punch or stab themsubnautica 1 had a knife at least, it was shit, but it was something. it also had the prawn which could punch and drill to deal some damage, albeit not a lot. real weapons would render the games horror element void, almost nobody wants that. it is very retarded to have a gun that can blow up deposits of metal, but that you somehow can't use on a fucking shark be realthe entire ideology of "you just have to let yourself be raped and killed" is what these people believe and are trying to push, and its retarded. it is correct, in every moral sense, to defend yourself from anything that attacks you whether its a fish or a jungle nogall humans would instinctually punch, kick, claw and tear to defend themselves from anything
>>739176553I think its more retarded to get genuinely upset by this and fill threads with open anger about it
>>739176553>Is the developer purposefully acting retarded to get attention?They're based in San Fransisco. It's no act.
>slave to a corporation>planet you're on is brainwashing you into killing yourself>not allowed to fight back against the aggressive predators>company banned all methods of self-defense>cults of brainwashed women forming to worship the new way of things and integrate with the hostile alien lifeformsin different circumstances this game would get called a racist and sexist dogwhistlei won't be surprised if the message of the game is ultimately "actually, you should just kill yourself" though, it'll either be that or "you need to mix with the aliens just to survive and here's why that's a good thing"
>>739176540You eat them but you can't kill them so you have to grab them one by one by hand, then click on a menu and then the icon is replaced by a cooked version or they're shoved into a can.Not sure if it's because they're lazy fucks or if it's on purpose
>>739176553No, they felt the need to talk about it during Subnautica 1's development as well, they're genuinely just really retarded and gay. Go look up his AI-generated movie about lesbian elves at the north pole and tell me this man is even remotely intelligent.
>>739176720You could kill them with a knife or kill and cook them in one hit with a thermoblade in S1, I assume there's no longer any such thing in S2.
>>739176540You can only basically touch small fish. Anything bigger has free reign to beat you up and you can basically do nothing until you get the resonator which might not even work to drive the fish off. For the small fish you can’t actually hurt them, you just toss them in to the fabricator to cook them. Or toss them in a bio generator to break down for fuel. Which is way worse than letting you bonk them with a hammer.
>>739176720So what's the damn message then? You're only allowed to kill the weak and helpless? Who tremble in fear and try to flee you? You're allowed to kill those by the thousands because they're too fucking weak to stop you. God bless war.
>>739176463Sure lore doesn't match gameplay one to one. In the same way you can just go back to the first monster hunt with your endgame gear and murder monsters in less than 10 seconds but the intent is there, the message is relevant.>>739176484Monsters in MH aren't that weak. They'd find a way to adapt in some form. But even so, the intent is not to portray the monsters as weak or vulnerable. Sure you can damage them, but you can't render them completely useless as you torture them. You're fighting something not pulling limbs off an insect. If Capcom wanted to, there'd be no reason you couldn't completely remove multiple limbs from monsters, in fact it would work well on a lot of monsters that rely on specific parts for gimmicks but there's a reason you can't.
you can't kill and eat fish in scuba survival game 2? dropped. tired of agenda pushers no matter how small. frankly 1 bored me anyway.
>>739176632>its more retarded to get genuinely upset by thisRight, but it's perfectly reasonable to call people economic terrorists when companies go under and cost people their jobs, because instead of getting mad at the product, you simply chose not to buy or refunded it.
>>739176848Yup, the devs are just pants on head retarded.Likewise from what I saw the big ones only attack you so you won't randomly find floating dead fishes that got killed from a fight.It's so fucking weird, the game stops being interesting because everything feels artificial.
>>739174039>fish that can kill you>you cant do shit backthats not fun
>>739174039Fuck off with your attempts at outrage marketing.
>>739176632It is retarded to get upset about this, as anyone is free to go and make a Subnautica competitor in UE5 or a better engine.
>>739176887You can "kill" and eat them by picking them up and cooking them, you just can't kill them in the world with player strikes.
>subnautica 2 is a horror game now
>>739174039didn't they try this shit with the first game as well and then they caved after a while and added weapons and combat later?
>>739177226It isn't difficult. It really isn't difficult. The hardest part is the art, and that's only hard until you get good at art. Or until you train an AI to art good like you want it to.
>>739174039Dei post patching Kek
>>739174296Honestly this is genuinely hilarious because the dev said "I'm going to shit on my game and make it worse, and if you disagree, you are a nazi" and now we have people like you cheering. Like, did you not play Sub1? You had slow predators you could avoid, ones that mostly kept to the ground you could avoid, ones that could be distracted in some way, and you had weapons to delay stronger ones long enough for you to run.
>>739174039Ugh, so anti american..
>>739174039mods exist (unless you are a moron who uses consoles or does not know how to mod or make mods)
>>739175759>/v/ getting mad at a dev standing by their design philosophyThey aren't though, the game HAS no design philosophy now. You need to build your game around the idea. They just took 1 and removed ways to defend yourself. They could have built-off 1's concepts of defending yourself with technology that doesn't hurt the fish, but they didn't. So now you have god fish that don't interact in any meaningful way that just harass anything the player has.
>>739174170Lots of people in the previous thread were very angry
fisher-price gameyou're just taking a lil swimmyand building a cute housie
Yeah it's kind of gay but the game is still fun. If faggots here actually played video games this stuff wouldn't be an issue and is not an issue for normal not-retarded people
>>739177727>and is not an issue for normal not-retarded peopleExcept it clearly isn't given a lot of people are complaining outside of /v/ to the point multiple devs went on full damage control.A lot of the people cheering here don't even play the game and are here for /pol/ shit.
>AIIIEEEE CAN'T KILL FISHMeanwhile in game>swim up to a fish>grab it>stick it in your mouth>start vigorously chewing>this KILLS the fish???
>>739177676>fisher-price
>>739174170couldn't you literally splatter fish by ramming them with your mini-sub in 1
>>739178264Yes, on occasion it would even damage the sub
Fun trivia: Any time a submarine uses a sonar ping, any living thing within 50 meters dies.
>>739176771I never heard of them talk about it around the first game and just took it as it is and thought it was fine. You could still hot small critters and avoid bit ones and they weren't that aggressive so it felt organic for the most part. Apparently they went full retard about it in the second game to the point it's noticeable.
>>739178549i think about that a lot when i can hear a watch ticking from across a pool
>>739177904Even funnier, you can catch them alive and throw them in the bioreactor to compost it's dying body for electricity.
>>739174170>>739174039Yep, because the mod that allows you to kill alien niggers is currently the most downloaded mod, LMAAAO.Suck my dick, faggot devs, I'm going to colonize and murder the entire planet. Complete global saturation.
What's the point of survival crafting if the player can't assert dominance over the lesser species?
>>739174039Based, I like killing minorities, not animals.
>>739177904That's because the dev, just like all leftoids, is a lying hypocrite rat and doesn't give a shit about fish. He only uses this game as a medium for his political message.
>>739174039Zoomers aren't people
>Riley slaughtered so many fish with a knife that knives were banned by AlterraWhat the FUCK is Riley's problem?
>>739178692With the discourse around it you'd think they could have gone full vegan but no, it's just weirder you aren't allowed to bonk the fish. Such a weird meat comes from a supermarket take when it's a survival situation.
>>739174039DIOS MIO! EL NIGGER DE LIBTARDAS
>>739174170plenty of polcel niggers are having a genuine melty in here already
>>739176838>Toss living fish in a crushing machine.Damn so the dude just eats all the bones and the guts too.
>>739178956uh WOW sweetie, yikes
>>739178897>Suck my dick, faggot devs, I'm going to colonize and murder the entire planet. Complete global saturation.https://youtu.be/6bWLnflvWmQ
>>739178897COMPLETEGLOBALSATURATION
>>739179271/pol/ website
>>739174170That's false. First game also had a political message, but the dev at least tried to make a Lore-friendly reason to justify it (you are a corporate slave and corpos banned printing weapons to prevent armed rebellion). In this game they just outright say "le guns are le bad" in the first 5 fucking minutes of the game (what guns? this game only had a fucking knife). So absolutely fucking nothing about it makes sense lore wise, it's an obvious obnoxious political statement that makes no sense lore wise and breaks the immersion.
>>739174039i fully expect to kill fish in the future when the game is fully released and i download the combat mod.
>>739174039>americans when they can't murder everything they see
>>739179547Playing the first game I didn't really feel like you are supposed to think the fact you are not allowed to print weapons is a good thing. Like, from a leftist perspective it would be weird to sympathise with the huge corpo anyway. Also we learn they get into transactional "relationship contracts" with multiple people including the same sex at a time and you could read that as capitalism making commodities out of people but you could also take it at face value and think they are degenerates so it sort of fails to match cleanly to left/right. Unless the dev unironically thinks nanny state rainbow capitalism is actually a good thing.
>>739179083What was even the point of that knife? There are shitton of sharp rebar frames lying around that you can use as a spear or a club. And there is a super sharp tooth that can also be used as a weapon.
>>739174039if you kill a monster that's trying to tear you to pieces... whose the REAL monster then hmmm?
>>739174039>AAAAAA HUMANS ARE THE REAL MONSTERShonk shoo honk shoo
euros would rather let an immigrant slaughter their entire family with a machete than engage in any kind of self defenseharming someone attacking you is the worst thing someone can do to them
>>739181396Why do people keep saying EU guys when they are from the US LA
>>739174039Sick, I’ll never buy it, thanks for the heads up guys
>>739181652mutts trying to deflect
>>739174170There was no guns in first two games, but you could still kill the fish You could get your knife and knife fight leviathans to death if you wanted to. But devs got buttmad that despise their political bullshit people were still killing fishies. So they removed any ways to kill in the new game.
What's really funny about this "controversy" is that it's just deja vu from the first game where almost the exact same thing happened and I felt almost the exact same way.>game doesn't let you hunt/kill hostile predators unless you awkwardly go out of your way>vague feeling of "you shouldn't go out of your way to conquer an ecosystem just because you exist in it" from the story, fine, whatever>Decently refreshing to play a survival game where you're near the bottom of the food chain and have to use solutions other than killing so it's fine>dev says something goofy like "we have no guns because we hate real world gun violence" when you're in a survival situation and letting animals potentially eat you because guns are bad is radical at best, crazy at worstThey'll probably cave on letting you kill small fish because it's outright goofy that even smacking them with a submarine does nothing but I don't really care about the rest, it makes a solid game.
>>739182817I don't think they'll cave, they're more likely to get passive aggressive about it and start punishing their players with updates these days. Vidya devs have gotten real nasty when it comes to criticism now.
>>739183048nah lol criticism tends to win in live service world and it's a relatively small change in line with SN1 that they could probably get away with without a snowballing "I want to kill a leviathan with a gun" thing happening
>>739181396Jesus Christ, american game, made by american retards, with the most possible liberal american worldview from gated communitie. And you are trying to blatantly lie about it
>>739174039refund requested :) ... :D
>>739176046>country of Europe
>>739174039don't you have to kill smaller fish for food/water?
Just mod them in
>>739174039*sit like a womencreatively bankrupt game
>>739183949No as your character is a vegan
>>739183949you just grab small fish and shove them in your pockets to be butchered and cooked later which, to be fair, is how you did it in the first game mostlythey removed damage systems because according to them more people than they wanted took "leviathans and large predators have insanely large healthbars, too much to be practically killed" as a challenge and depopulate the ocean of them so they decided to just take away the choice to hammer in that you have to figure out how to co-exist with a monster like that
fish dont even feel painthey are literally too stupid to feel it
>>739174039>You'll not be allowed self defense and you will like it
>NOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN FISHERINOS!
>>739174039>lefties having a meltdown over fish in a game>promote trans kids and other horrible forms of child abuseHate these whackos. I’m very fatigued.
>>739174039Did they turn the enemies immortal or something? Killing oversized sharks with your knife was the best part of the original.
>>739175461thats monster hunter wilds tho
>>739174296
>>739186506>most players will never kill the big predators>let's just remove that capability to piss off the few who would do itweird choice
>>739187110It was more than they wanted, apparently. If you give a human means to permanently remove the giant screaming sea serpent who jumpscares you they'll do it, who knew
>>739187183almost like it was another challenge people had to option to take onwhat do they call that... content?
It feels like they want to be more like Outer Wilds. They even said something to the effect of "we're more of an exploration game than a survival game" but it IS a survival game. you have hunger to manage, they encourage you to build permanent habitation for yourself, etc. They even made it so that you can't permanently die in this one but as long as the survival mechanics are it's playing against itself a little.
>>739186945They turned everything immortalexcept for the white fishes, those you can kill them.
if they really wanted to direct players without hurting agency they should have just made ze robo police come rape you if you killed too many or some other punishment rather than just removing it altogether, pure laziness
>>739174170This, and these people need to die painfully.
>>739187262Honestly man if you've watched someone kill a leviathan in subnautica it's not really cool gameplay content. They clearly figured that people would just not attempt to do it because the health was too high, which is foolish, but I wouldn't call it "combat."
>>739174039what does this nigga eat then?
>>739174039SO that's why there are no whites in the game.we kicked out all the faggots out of earth to die endlessly in space.
>>739187413He just grabs tiny fish and kills them in a menu it's like 90% them not wanting the player to kill predators
>>739174039>certain peopleYeh people who want to have fun in a video game.>>739174296No I have woke fatigue. I suppose you can stop having anti-woke fatigue as soon as you stop being woke.
>>739174296No. KYS child-molester.
>>739187413Fish sperm. he sucks the fishies.
Someone hold me and tell me that Rockstar confirmed that I'll be able to kill fish in GTA6
>>739177524Whatever "angry" means. That being said I think "fake outrage" is kind of the wrong wording, the articles are meant to garner a certain response from people. The point is that it's supposed to be politically grating, but the discussion was never real to begin with. The responses are real, but what generated them wasn't. The people responding aren't really the problem, just the ones pumping out these intentionally inflamatory articles.
>>739187310I feel like kept food and water out of tradition because it doesn't fit with the rest of the game at all.Didn't know about Outer Wilds but that explains just about everything, it really is not a survival game, it's just a weird adventure game.
>>739176317Content-farming jeets aren't really people
>>739187403exactly, so why make it impossible? seems retardedpeople turn some of the most boring things into "content" why eliminate the possibility?
Who cares
>libtards desperate to own le ebil chuds with literally anythingkek. lame
>>739174039It doesn't make me mad because I would never play this infantile shit to begin with. However it does make me feel kind of attacked because my ideal game is basically Cabella's Big Game Hunter in space. I just want to shoot and grill speculative xenobiologicals.
>>739186596It's actually an explicit lore point that one of the leviathans felt such great existential pain about the situation it was put in, that it let the architects get genocided. Don't put them in a situation.
Kill fish Behead fishRoundhouse kick a fish into the coral
>>739174296No, we are all still suffering woke games fatigue
>>739174039It's at the very core of human nature to dominate, anything else is wishy-washy limpwristed socialist wishful thinking.
You niggers are legitimately insane. Go outside and touch some grass and enjoy the sun, like the dude in pic related.It's just a game.
>>739174170Now imagine, someone hired a bot farm to spam /v how current thing is owning the chuds. Maybe even live Pajeets.
>>739174039You kill fishes in the original games...What do you think the burning knife did?
La creatura..
>>739174039mods will fix it
>>739174039Non buynary?
>>739190141Apparently they got so mad that some people poked the big predators to death just to see if they could even though you were very obviously not meant to try that they decided that you don't even get a knife in the sequel and you just catch the fish for food with your bare hands.
>>739190686Already exists. >>739190094The gcj fuckers do that for free. Although I think the mixtape people are marketing drones. >>739190052I wanted shit more like 1. It sounds like they want to make more below zero. Why does that freak you out so much?
>>739174039Yeah, fans of the first game.
>>739174039People will still go and knife the nearest aggressive leviathan.
>>739174296This site has been a platform for bots pushing billionaire and corporate propaganda for years and years now. That's really what's actually going on here. A lot of posts are literally just fucking bots automated to run on predictable responses. Although there definitely are people stupid enough to support corporations.Such specimens somehow find a way to avoid getting banned by the fucking mods, but people who don't support it are attacked and even banned for naming the Jew.It's literally just funded propaganda by psychopathic pedophiles. They want the status-quo to never change.
>>739176330>Monster hunting is highly regulated, and every large monster you're authorized to kill/capture is due to necessity rather than for sport. There are hunters specifically designated to hunt down poachers/non guild "hunters".Nigger have you ever read quest descriptions?There are some where some rich girl just wants a pet rathian or some other inane reason is made up for the quest. Hell in World you unlock arena quest by capture monsters in the wild so they can then fight in an enclosed space.And in every game you've been able to severely injure monsters via part breaks, some brutal ones include Uragaans chin, or Gravios chest and back. In Wilds when you break either of the rath's wings they do an animation where they struggle to fly. Something like that is absolutely a death sentance.
>>739179083I was hungy.
>>739174039lol what a faggy game
>>739177727I'm an avid fan of sub1. I liked the thermoblade. I liked the fact the seamoth could kill things accidentally, or intentionally. The prawn suit and stasis rifle were OP, and if leviathans were immortal that'd be totally fine. I will not be playing sub2 because I do not want to support this devs wild political posturing. If I bonk a peeper with my sub, it should die. If I smack a stalker enough times, it should die. Devs should not limit interactivity for the sake of a political message.
>>739176073>probably dying tomorrowI'm not ready deepbros
>>739190879>I wanted shit more like 1It's more like 1 than BZ, so idk what you're freaking out over.
>fish can kill you>but you can't kill fish
>>739174039> astroturfed marketing shill thread
>>739191806LOL. You're the one trying to yell touch grass on this of all sites. I want it even more like 1 that the stupid shit the devs are saying. It's still EA so the devs may actually change their minds, or at least be less retarded about their implementation.
>>739191915Be the bigger person anon
>>739191594>I will cuck myself out of a game I like to own the wokesKek
>>739174296>nothingburgerEveryone hates it.
>>739191974I should be able to at least permanently remove or mitigate a threat like a shark or something. The cyclops had that shield and you could eventually get the fuck off gun to yeet sharks away.
>Subnautica: don't you heckin hurt those wholesome chungus fishies!! violence is NEVER the answer!!! LEARN TO COEXIST WITH NATURE!!!!>Also Subnautica:
>>739192120If theyr'e going to be this stupid, I doubt he'll like the game.
I don't see anyone mentioning how this "survival multitool" thing is pretty much a "safety knife/axe." The icon shows the little blade being out, but the actual in-game model never has the blade flip out. the only sharp surface is the little black area, surrounded by rounded plastic in such a way as it would be impossible to cut anything that couldn't fit in the curved area, also clearly so light that it can't be used as a bludgeon.I didn't really pay any attention to the "future survival tool" thing until this "controversy" started.
Now I wanna get up and play more
>>739174039I warned you this game was woke trash.
But it's a survival game. You would start killing wildlife to survive if you got standed literally anywhere in the universe.
>>739174039Are they.. going to remove being able to vaporize things with the sonic gun? Maaaan.
>>739193131Yes?I mean, survival in general means you kill when you need to kill.Why does this make modern morons so uncomfortable? Nature in its original form is an uncaring monster that wants you dead.
>>739175587Or it WOULD be, if Leviathans didn't just swim circles in place in a predefined position and all you had to do was NOT build under them. Most people probably didn't even experience base damage and flooding mechanics.
>>739192526>but the actual in-game model never has the blade flip outIt does when you swing it. It basically flips the blade out and retracts it instantly.
>>739192453Correct. They're probably going to double down and be even dumber now.
>>739174039Can we in the very least make love to the fish?
>>739193914Settle down, Kanye.
>>739193914The tailing aliens are said to be very grabby and have "no sense of personal space" though it's never shown how they look at the moment.
>You're not allowed to kill anything, you're not here to dominate it>Also you can have the poster of strong womyx that killed a leviathan single handily and survived the deadly virus all on her ownDevs = fags
>>739180357the devs think guns should be banned from private ownership globally so yes they do believe in the rainbow nanny state that takes care of you while simultaneously cops and criminals cease to exist "if we just enacted the correct policies"this is the same naive and wishful thinking that caused tens of millions to starve to death from planned economic policies that caused famines under communism "if we just enact the correct policies we will prove that international communism is the only way forward"
>angryfrom what i've read people just want to be able to defend themselves so their vehicles and other stuff stop getting eaten (like the first game) and are not wanting it be call of duty: underwater vacation fun time explosion world (like the first game)
>>739194031Yeah this reeks of devs acting like faggots in public and then doing the opposite ingame
>>739194234Not even that, there's nothing to defend against since everything do chip damage, the problem is that they're everywhere and it's really fucking annoying. My base in the fucking safe shallow next to the spawn point gets constantly attacked.But bases are indestructible so there's no risk, I just have a bunch of faggot fish banging against the windows until I leave.
>>739174039https://youtu.be/AmNGAbS8m0A
>>739174039>it's a realWhat a weird way to frame it.Repeat after me - all game devs are giant faggots.
>>739175759>Can feed fish to replicator to be processed alive into food>Can feed fish to bioreactor to slowly melt them into electricity >But you can't kill anything!Cool philosophy
Ok, i'm trying to like the dive elevator, but having to press a button to grab on and then press another button to go down/up is kinda ass. If you grab it, it should just go right? Also, the map so far is so shallow, i don't see much use for it. you get the tadpole too fast.
>>739195692I bet it's for coop so everyone can grab it first but yea the progression is all kind of fucked so it make no sense
>>739174039fuck vegans lmao
>>739176317It's more annoying that the dev is virtue signaling about it. The game itself is fine.
>>739174170Outrage to whom? I'm reading this and thinking "Based"
>>739174296"Fatigue" means difficulty remaining awake. So all fatigue is "anti-woke."
When did le video games encourage violence became a tranny thing? I thought it was Christian chuds
>>739174039So after the eula debacle this is what they focus on?
>>739174039subnautica 2: electric boogaloo
>>739196723The eula thing is krafton being dicks, not the devs.
>>739174296i have grifter and outrage farming fatigue
>>739196342pearl-clutching over violence in the media is bipartisan
>>739196958>Publisher: Unknown WorldsEither Steam is lying or it's the devs being fagsConsidering Krafton is getting its ass blasted in court I don't think they have the luxury to mess with the game
>>739197359who knows why the krafton EULA is still in the game but I'd imagine because Krafton is no longer the publisher it no longer applies. Might be a holdover because they genuinely don't know what they can do with it
All of creation exist for the betterment of humanity. Thats why we are entrusted as its stuarts. Subnautica 2 is contrary to the gospel.
>>739197359It's just the continued pr battle between krafton and unknown worlds. Pretty sure unknown worlds changed it unilaterally now that they regained full control of the steam page despite krafton still being involved with the game. Bit of a middle finger to krafton if you will.
>>739174039oh so these new devs are exactly as much faggots as the previous onesthat will be a skip for me
>>739174170Armchair activism is gay.>>739174296Nope, and no matter how much woketroon tourists try this, no one will. There is no "anti woke", just a call for normalcy and common sense to return. You can't get fatigued of that unless you're a deviant.
>>739198069It's the same soimen from San Francisco. Im just surprised they dont have trans flag fish everywhere but there is still time.
>>739174039There isn’t a single argument I’ve seen for immortal fish that isn’t a disingenuous.>You want to be fish doom guy>just go play Call of Duty>erm technically you cook the fish so you are killing them>you’re just a murder hobo this isn’t the game for youIs there any real argument here about death in a survival game or is this just a “bait or metal retardation” thing?
>you need to let the giant sea monsters horribly murder you, CHUD
>>739174039The unintentional meta commentary where the big bad corpo Altera uses a massacre to justify screwing over the player’s ability to defend themselves in the first game.
>>739198581I wish, you have the means to kill stuff in the game, you can punch, stab and ram a shark but it just won't do anything, you'll just go through it like it doesn't exist
>>739174039lol I don't play this shit but I hope they never add weapons to the game. Seeing all the bloodthirsty shitskins here throw a fit is hilarious
>>739174170Angry is a strong word for it, I think peeved or dissapointed would be a better word. I think in the long run people are largely ambivilent seeing as they can just mod the game to fix it.
>>739192143god damn that reply
>>739175759>Fromsoft suddenly decide to remove bosses from their game>People get reasonably upset>"Well it's our design philosophy, we aren't changing it"This is what occured.
why are the devs making a big deal out of killing fishes when in the first 2 games, they would only stay dead until you reloaded your saveI killed a reaper leviathan in the first game by grappling to it and punching it to death with the prawn suit, and when I reloaded the save I had a fucking reaper patrolling in the safe shallowsin below zero I was constantly ramming bone sharks with my seatruck until they died because it would deal less damage than trying to navigate around them and letting them bite the vehicle, and then I would have to do it again later on when they respawnedthe devs are just behaving like the usual californian democrat pussies over a benign thing
>>739178987/thread
>>739174039It would be so funny if a raging nigger went to his house and stabbed him to death lmao
>you, the brown person, are the white colonizer in this world, and the giant murderous fish are George Floyd and black folkStunning... brave...
As long as you replace combat with an equally interesting mechanic then its fine. Of course they have something like ecosystems, breeding, ect right?
>there's a 2nd giant squid past the alien ruinsGOD DAMN IT
>add a bunch of monsters that constantly annoy the players throughout the game and will attack you for no discernible reason>"but you're not allowed to defend yourself because guns bad"
>>739174296>"woke" outta nowherevery organic sis, tell the trooncord you still don't pass
So are we recycling the outrage from the first game for free bait?
>>739174170What do you eat in this game? Didn't the last one had you fishing to replenish food and water?
>>739201008You eat the fish, you're just not allowed to kill them.
>>739174296I mostly have outrage culture and election tourist fatigue, but you're also a faggot that needs to go back
>>739175968They did indeed completely disable damage to non players.Predator fish will bite a small fish, chew on it a bit and then spit it out and they both go their separate ways.Hitting a fish with your vehicle is like hitting a brick wall.
>>739174039>nooo don't pirate our game
>>739176848You have free reign on anything smaller than you.If something bigger than you wants a snack you should relax and enjoy death.It's called the food chain, look it up.
>>739199489Idk wtf is going on in your game but the fish didn't respawn in the original game. I personally killed every reaper, both dragons and all non respawning ghosts. The only "respawning" leviathans are the abyssal ghosts which constantly spawn when you leave the game area.
>>739176317>"no killing? that's gay">YOU ARE HAVING A CATEGORY 5 MELTDOWN, SCREAMING BLOODY MURDERI'm tired of this genre of person
>>739177524Link some of them please. I need a laugh.
>>739174039ultimate warrior being proven right again
>>739201913>abuse the refund system instead
>>739200785>>739202438I don't even understand where they got the idea only duh chuds like guns and violence in video games. What a weak deflection
>>739174039Yeah, I'm very angry about it. I thought you'd at least be able to run the hostiles over, but no, my base is permanently fucked because the Nibbler Mangoes keep harassing me the attosecond I step out of my base.In Subnautica, I built my base in the Floater Islands biome and slaughtered all the nearby Bone Sharks that were harassing me. In Below Zero, I built my base in the Southern Thermal Spires near the Sparse Arctic and killed the Cryptosuchus that were harassing me. In Subnautica 2, I'm forced to live alongside immortal faggot fish that nip me for 3% every time I want to go grab some titanium.Removing the ability to kill medium sized fish is as retarded a decision as removing the ability to refresh your oxygen meter by entering your submarine.
>>739174039Yes. Anyone who has ever actually lived outdoors in any rural location.Fucks sakes, we only just got allowed to cull the poor fucking kangaroos here, after 30 fucking years of city dwelling idiots going 'noooo not the kangaroos, you have to let them grow to plague proportions and starve so bad they go into every rural place with humans' and make it illegal to manage their herds.Its also only people who've never actually been in wild areas that would think this KUMBAYAH shit is how the wilderness goes.
>>739174172But you see, the blood isn't directly on your own hands, so it doesn't count >see ; this is why leftists love pollution and slave Labor in brown and black and yellow countries supporting their lives in the west
>>739202061>It's called the food chain, look it up
>>739202113maybe they changed it during the full game release, but I can guarantee you that during the early access I killed one of the leviathans near the ship in the safe shallows, saw its body rotate to show that it was REALLY dead, and when I loaded a save the same leviathan was alive again and stalking the surroundings of the starting area
>>739182817The first game had the excuse of>EVERYTHING (except for the Sea Empress Leviathan) can be knifed to death if you have enough time>You have loads of other weapons/defensive options/stealth options to sneak around scary monsters>You are completely able to kill the middle-weight fishies that can and will attack you if you build your base too close to themBuilding a base next to a leviathan was a funny novelty. Building a base next to a nest of sharks or bleeders or crabsquids or stalkers was an occupational hazard that you could fix with surgical application of your knife into their gills or by pulling a Truck Attack of Peace with your Seamoth.
Fact: No one defending this dogshit change played and enjoyed the first Subnautica.
>>739176848The first game was known for not having guns because devs were against them, which lead to gameplay where you were mostly powerless against enemies (but not completely, there are ways to kill basically everything). By now that idea has been flanderized by the devs into "we can't have any violence at all" except the core gameplay still requires you to eat fish so it's a complete mess. The devs are just too lost in their sauce.
>>739203814Belugas are cool
>>739176046>country of Europeanon....
>>739177524
>>739174039I don't need to be able to kill everything.I do need some way to get them to fuck off for more than 5 seconds.Flares are a 50% of the time they work every time.The nerf bat hammer and resonater do fuck all.
>>739174039>>739192143Has anyone tried bragging about repeatedly killing this ugly nigger PC, and how it rightfully belongs at the bottom of the food chain, never allowed to fight back against it's betters? It won't make them change anything, but it might get a few funny reactions.
>>739176695>"you need to mix with the aliens just to survive and here's why that's a good thing"It's literally the message. You need to swim around and cure alien herpes on ugly things to take their DNA and incorporate them into yourself.
>>739174296>>739200785I am getting poorly done social engineering fatigue. Just the past week I have seen the most batshit insane takes constantly that never existed before.>Only right-wingers like gun violence in gamesNot only completely fucking wrong and makes no sense but anti-gun owner sentiment is at an all time low across the political spectrum. No one trusts the police or the government anymore and new gun clubs are appearing everywhere including "deep blue" states. Wonder if something similar is happening in Europe now too.
>>739175759>all choices stem from lead devs and CEO whining about school shootings>first game is a bit silly about the situation with the chemical weapons and the torpedoes that fry smaller fish with electricity, but more believable>second game goes full retard and says any weapon will be more likely to be used on a fellow human, or yourself, than any of the many dozens of species of wildlife that skewer you alive>at the same time willing to joke about how you can basically reprint yourself over and over because of said lack of ways to defend yourselfThose kids at Sandy Hook should have had a respawn bed lol
chud melties in the steam reviews lolit's like leaving a negative review on Elden Ring because you can't drive a car or Outlast because you don't have a gun
>>739204078Whales are just neat.
>>739206653a closer analogy would be you can't use a fire to cook food in a survival game because fire takes hundreds of lives every year in California, but whatever
>>739174039>>739174296why is OP replying to themselves about the threads THEY made?
>killing and eating fish is like colonialismthat might be the most retarded thing I've ever heard a dev say in my entire life
>>739174039>Cuck simulator 2: water edition.
>>739175390>people that think for themselvesSo nobody on /v/, got it.
>>739192143based and truthpilled
>>739201838I *can* put them in a bio reactor and disintegrate the little fucker tho.
i dont care about your retarded ragebait threadwhy are they so territorial and retarded, they literally follow you around mad as fuck
>>739174170I'm angry
>>739174039>>739174039wasnt the bodyguard woman in the degasi expedition in 1 lionized in 2 for being a badass that kills leviathan reapers with just a knife
>>739174039>colonistnigger its the ocean lmao
>>739207806they are sentient and evil with a love for tormenting and torture
My Tadpole was destroyed recently. But the fish that destroyed my Tadpole enjoyed it more than I do riding it, so it's a net gain of happiness in this world.
>>739174039>associating brown people with hungry, predatory man-eating animalsUh based article?
>>739207043
>>739207806You're the only mortal on the planet. Can you imagine how hungry you'd get if you can't eat but can't die?
after playing 10 hours of subnautica 2 and then going back to 1 to try it out, genuinely the "lack of killing" isnt the issue, it's that the predators in 2 are way to aggressivein 1, basically every predator can be in your line of sight and not immediately start attacking you, but in 2 those fucking sharks even get a hint you're around and then they chase you for 10 minutes
>>739179105i wish they went full vegan, you can literally eat plant matter, if only they harnessed their boundless technology to allow you to desalinate waterthe predators playing fetch with flares is dumb but it also makes them kind of cute
>>739174039But what if mods make the fish into attractive anime bitches that I catch in nets and have sex with?
>>739207239It's only the most retarded thibg you've heard a dev say in your life SO FAR.
Why doesn't the sonic gun deter small and medium fish? That would solve like 90% of the complaints.
>>739207043Because leftist terrorist arsonists and bureaucrats take *You mis-wrote that. Fix'd your typo.
>Did you just enter a 10 mile radius near me? Time to fire 10,000 needles at your skull.
>>739174039>I see a hazard or roadblock and want to get rid of it>lol fuck you Why would I play this game then
>>739174039No amount of controversy can hide the fact this game is fucking complete dogshit compared to the original in basically every way and no amount of early access will fix it
>>739210281wrong + cope
>>739210013How diverse!
>>739174296maybe if you make this post a couple hundred more times people will care
>Actually play game>You literally have to kill fish to progress, there just isn't combat.
>>739210281it just needs 4 years or whatever in early access before you play it
>>739174039It went from people complaining about notSharks holding agro across after swimming across half the fucking map and you not being able to do anything about it to developers virtue signaling about being anti-colonialist. I mean... Why? It's just weird.
Go woke go bro-AAACCKKK!!!
Even journos are losing track of the argument and are going to confuse people who actually played the game.
We must be better. We humans must become excrement for fish. We can just clone more.
>Actual controversy: >They removed combat related features that people liked from the first game, such as the torpedos and the mech you could kill shit with. >Controversy according to white knights and journos:>You're just mad because you can't have guns! The first game didn't have guns anyways!
I remember using my knoif on a lot of fish in the first game but it is gone now? That's kinda gay
>>739210485And it's not like killing fish was a viable strategy in 1 either, very few ever did it. But it was there, fish responded to stabs.
ummmm subnautica devs.... what is this... these are not our values....
>be Alterra>want to charge this stupid janitor trillions of debt>look at his PDA records>this is him>outlaw the knife and the rifle>remove his debt
>>739174039Is the dev trying to sound like the biggest faggot on earth?
>>739210751This seems entirely correct.
>>739210013Shine a flashlight at predators, it deters them. Something that game never tells you.
>>739174039I mean I get it and I think killing Leviathans shouldn't really be possible but for immersions sake it should be possible to kill things like say the Nibbler Mango that or at least give a few more deterrence/self defense options like allowing the sonic emitter being able to stun midsized wildlife. We're already killing the bottom food chain animals in-game via grabbing and cooking them after all so killing for survival is just straight up on the table.
>>739174039seems gay as fuck but I wasnt going to play anyways.
>>739174039Well we can't have you killing fish in the ocean, i mean thats like gta, like think of the children, like
>swim to the alien village>there are literal fucking spears all over the place
>>739210485>>739210979That's different, those fish don't die they just live in your tummy it's fine.
>>739178897Not sure why you feel the need to make the game inferior, but okay
>>739174039I have no problem with this whatsoever.
>>739210952It's even worse than that, he's seething over something 0.001% of the playerbase even does.
>>739208957The Subnautica threads like literally been that, wow.>uh i don't see anything wrong with it>i've never played the games and don't know what changed but the dev dislikes chuds so it must be good
>>739210881Girlbosses are allowed to kill Leviathans. That being the case, Unknown Worlds are going to make it so the black female playable character can kill the hostiles in the game while everyone else has to suck it up.
>“When seamonsters are hunting you, you don't hide. You hunt the seamonsters. Then you build a bigger boat out of seamonster bones, and you hunt bigger monsters. Keep going until there aren't any monsters left to hunt you.”Why would the Subnautica devs put this in their non-violent pacifist game? Are they schizos?
>>739174039fish have no problems eating humans
>>739211021Humans don't know how to use alien tools. They haven't been taught violence so they can't be violent.
>>739208025Yes but don't think about that
>>739210841I went around hunting reapers but only because there's so fucking many of them in some regions it makes exploration impossible.
>>739211393you fucking nazi
>>739211393It takes too long to kill them. I just use the Cyclops and stealth past them.
i'm glad woke games are a dying breed and i can generate my own now
>>739211021you are contractually forbidden from picking up anything that might harm alterra propertysorry debt slaves, but those are the rules :^)
>>739211539still waiting for your game, rajeeb
Horror and survival games fall apart when guns/weapons are introduced hence why all of them outright ban/refuse them or severely handicap their usageIt's literally a midwit genre
>>739211728>t.
>>739211774still no game
Why not have an option to kill or not kill the fishes?
>HOW CAN NOT KILL BIG FISH BUT EAT SMALL FISH???? ADID YOU LITERALLY SERUOUSLY REALLY JUST BREAK TOTAL CONSITENCY WITH THE HARDLINE IMAGINARY RULE I MADE FOR YOU?? LOGICALLY FALICY MUCH??? I JUST CHECKMATED YOU???Why are autistics like this
>>739174039This sounds like a really forced controversy by the devs and journos, since the first game was the same, i don't think anyone would be expecting things to be different>>739174296it isn't the anti-wokes pushing this, that being said the anti-wokes are upset not about the game having no combat but about the devs doing this shallow and empty virtue signaling
>slaughter all of the predators in a biome>something worse moves in >kill that something wrose>something EVEN WORSER moves in>repeat until your entire gameworld is full of cracked out ghost leviathans camping your base
>>739212003how is he wrong though
>>739196187noice
>>739212003attaching yourself like a limpet to a leviathan and drilling the lifeblood out of it was one of the best parts of subnautica 1 though
>>739212024>since the first game was the same, i don't think anyone would be expecting things to be differentIt's actually a different problem. Instead of renoving the knife, they removed EVERYTHING, your propulsion gun doesn't really affect fish either.
>company with 8-9 digits of funding sells severely incomplete product and still has the gall to act like they have morelsstfu corporation and put the bits in tubes
>>739212250And it was a completely avoidable issue but they got lazy. You are supposed to only remove the knife, not fish reactivity and all tools.
>>739212089See>>739212089
>>739174039refunding my pirated copy as we speak...actually i didnt even bother pirating this slop
>>739212376>>739198339Brb kms
>>739174039>The devs that got triggered by attack helicopter g gender joke are being homos againWoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooW
>>739212340>after firing half of it around the time of the first game>release steaming dogshit second game>get whole team fired with a retarded case, because of how lazy and incompetent they are>release game incomplete enough that it doesn't even have the same tools available yet>make a controversy out of it to generate free publicity so you can get a $250 million payout even though it was never going to hit milestones anyway>put in some reactivity down the lineShrimple as.
>>739211539What is this that lets you generate 3d models?
>>739174039Are the devs outright retarded?>big fish eating (You) and big fish eating smaller fish is fine but you doing the same is NOT FINE!!What is the point that they are trying to make? To lay down and die in survival situations the moment a predator animal shows up?
>söynauticatards vs alfactoriogods
>>739212087I like that the forrest series kind of did this. The aggression of the natives was determined by how genocidal and committed to deforestation you were. Lead to chain of events where killing a scouting party lead to having to kill a raiding party leading to an eventual constant war on your base with bigger and bigger mutants
>>739211774>>739211539-5000 Izzat
>>739212542The devs were so busy virtue signalling they forgot you had two non-lethal rifles and two torpedos to deter attacks with in Subnautica 1.
>>739212618Didn't twitter and leddit get super mad when Factorio's dev called the Soviet Union facist dictators?>UH MAYBE YOUR COUNTRYMEN DESERVED TO BE KILLED BY MY HECKIN' COMMUNIST ALLIES, EVER THINK OF THAT?
>>739212640That sounds super fun actually, I should check it out. Do I start with the first one?
>>739212767I've been seeing "Soviet socialism" on twitter a lot lately, likely as a way to make communism seem more cuddly/equate it with the nordic model
I got your non-lethal right here buddy *BWOOMF*
>>739192143The entire time this game was inspired by real life events in UK. I'd kneel all the way to the mantle of the earth if this was true.
>>739212767I only remember the time when one of the main devs called trans mentally ill.
>>739205042Admittedly its more like the whole cowpox vaccination thing; there's some toxin in the water on this planet, and there's one very rare thing that you can find to cure it, because you can't escape with an alien plague and it also makes certain kind of wildlife and other enemies attack the fuck out out you.
But WHY should I save this cringe alien planet?
>>739176330Most of the hunts in rise and become it had flavor text like 'this monster is making too much noise near my house'. Only recently did respecting the wildlife snd ecosystem start popping up in monhun media like wilds, stories 3, and that Netflix movie. I like the direction as long as it isn't too preachy
>>739176330Even if this were accurate the same could apply to Subnautica, there's no way a single person could even remotely destabilize an entire ecosystem in the first place by killing a few things that are trying to kill you. Sustainable hunting is a thing and it would make sense for an animal (human) to live in harmony with its environment instead of pretending it exists outside of it. It's a political stance that makes no sense. Not that it matters if there's more things to challenge the player. Though given the complaints I don't think subnautica 2 has those.
>>739174039But what about the fish you can just grab and eat?
>>739179510I would call you a 2016 tourist but you probably came here after covid.
>>739174039What actually bothers me is the dev spying on my pc
>>739213536>What actually bothers me is the dev spying on my pcqrd?
>>739213438Yeah, that's accurate. Subnautica 1 gave you the knife, superheated knife, repulsion cannon, stasis rifle, vortex torpedos, gas torpedos, and decoy missiles. The knife and gas torpedos did damage.Subnautica 2 gives you shitty flares that barely work.
>>739213536yeah they really want to distract from the TOS
>>739213438>>739213661Why don't they like, let you stab fish but the blood attracts sharks, making it a bad idea?
ALTERRANSWE MUST BE BETTER MEN
>>739213782because that isn't the point. The point is that they want to use the game to virtue signal their own politics regardless of the consequences.
>>739213834What politics? It just sounds like they're lazy.
>>739213782Fun fact, sharks like to chew on metal in 1, so giving it a piece of metal would distract it. The retard dev was so busy removing conflict he forgot about the interactivity.
>>739213661it's also an early access game? what's stopping them from adding all those things
>>739210281Whatever the fuck they were trying to achieve with Below Zero should've glued everyone in that those are the kinda devs who accidentally made one decent game and their understanding why that happened completely deviates from the people who played it. So this is them still trying to build on what they thought were the first game's strengths and appeals - namely the pseudo-progressive shit no one cared about, rather than the world design and atmosphere. And since they are so far up their own asses, they don't even realize what they think are chuds trying to infringe on their soapbox message is really regular people questioning nonsensical game design choices given the setting and mechanics.
>>739213910Subnautica 1's was "gun bad", which was fine, the game was built around it and it was fun.Subnautica's 2 mutated to "violence and self-defense bad" but they didn't build the gameplay around the concept like 1.
>>739174039Completely fake ass outrage
>>739174170Righties want guns in the game to show it is based, or something.>>739179547Guns don't fire under water. There's your reason>BUT MY SPECIAL GUNDesigned to fire maybe 40 feet underwater. Not in the fucking abyssal zone.
>>739214234https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ3rb_o1wbsretard kys
>>739214319I'm not watching your video. Physics does not care.
>>739214342retard
>>739214364Yo chatgpt is anon retarded?
>>739174170Devs are acting very faggy in a way that is designed to make people mad. Don't act all innocent and retarded.
>>739174039Did you fish in the first game? Kill sharks?
>>739214416>runs crying to AIretard
>>739214319>>739214364>>739214456what is it with boomers and millennials and spamming the word RETARD RETARD RETARD like they're a 7 year old who just discovered a no-no word lmfaoI see it across many sites. why do they think it's some super offensive word?
>>739214581butthurt retard
>>739214581It's a deflection/distraction tactic.They want to make the other person feel insulted so that it distracts from the points of the argument.It's like accidentally admitting you're sliding downhill but the hope is that the feign covers you.
>>739214581>>739214642retard faggot
>>739214642>Guns don't fire under water.
>>739214668Neither.
>>739214234>Guns don't fire under water. There's your reasonAnon you have literal kinetic force rifles and energy stasis rifles in Subnautica.
>>739214581You have it backwards. Retard wasn't offensive back then. It's only offensive to younger generations.
>>739213576NTA and have no idea, but I know if I tried to firewall off the game it would freeze up input. Had to forcefully proxy it to stop it phoning home. Got to the end of EA and I might just reinstall my OS after zero-filling the drive to be desu.
>>739214737He already proved he doesn't care about facts and objective reality, he just wants to seethe about politics. Just call him a retard.
>>739214679meant for >>739214234
>>739214690
>>739214642I notice it especially on conservative sites too. I'll go into a thread and ctrl F for 'retard' and get like 250 results loleven dumbass 60 IQ hood negros have better more clever gab
>>739214789Looks like someone wants attention.I've got free time, what's up?
Guys, stop calling him a retard! He gets really upset and bothered when you do that! Stop it!
>>739214878But he completely disregarded the point that was made about the overall interactivity of the first game and made it into some direction-brained /pol/ shit. He should feel bad for /pol/iticking while covering for the devs and whatever they just dropped.
>>739214878>one shottedDamn I didn't even mean to do that lmao
man how did we go from Subnautica 1 to this? What compels devs to do this shit in the first place? You could tell from BZ, well before 2 was announced, that 2 was gonna be absolute shitlike, ignoring woke trash elements, BZ just straight up wasn't as fun to play as 1, and 2 is absolutely no exception to this direction
>>739215017Its what happens when you care more about pushing a specific agenda than about delivering an enjoyable experience.
>>739215186this. fictional animals don't need conserving.
>>739215186this sort of stuff would be so implausible if not for the modern times knowledge that the whole ESG funding racket existseven knowing that, it's so batshit crazy on its face:>dev makes successful game loved by many>makes a decent amount of bank>"HAHA TIME TO PUSH POLITICAL AGENDA AND TELL THE PLAYERS WE ACTUALLY HATE THEM AND DONT WANT THEM TO PLAY OUR GAMES">videogames?.jpg
>>739214791It's woke leftists that scream retard, retard.
>>739213438Pretty much and in Bellow Zero there's a stronk wowyn that killed one of the strongest predator on her own and survived the most lethal bacteria that ever existed.She's even in a poster in the game so it's not like they're trying to retcon it either.
>>739174039Shit like this makes me glad george floyd died
>>739174039buy an ad.
https://youtu.be/Q63agFZxv10?t=25>this made the subnautica devs shit their adult diapers in rage
so you guys are fucking with me, right? They didn't actually remove the prawn suit in 2, did they?
>>739216347The vehicles are all different, if there's a mech suit equivalent it won't be the Prawn. 2 is getting a bigger version of the Cyclops at some point.
>>739216398At thr moment we have a shitter Seamoth. In the future we are getting a cooler Cyclops. We don't know what the Prawn equivalent is yet.
I love using the mod and 1 shotting everything
>>739216538The Hauler is nice, too bad you get it way too late in the current version. It'll be really useful in the new biomes.
>>739174039>why.jpgwhat the fuck drives all these shitass devs to behave like this? They could have EASILY spun it by saying they consider it more immersive to just try and survive in a hostile alien aquatic environment without means to defend yourself
>>739216793The issue is also that the game was not built around that. Subnautica was designed around having some tools to escape/delay predators. The retards forgot to put the non-lethal tools in.
>>739174296Sick of the chuds pointing at new things everyday and asking me to get angry. No one gives a fuck about your stupid war, faggots.
Has anyone modded in guns and shown clips of themselves mowing down the fish and sending him those clips on his socials while calling him a fucking faggot?
>>739174039>99% of games are violent>1 game tries to be different>gets attacked relentlesslyIt should be hated for forcing you to play a blue haired dyke, not for this
>>739218826subnautica 1 was very violent and the fish in 2 are extremely aggressive compared to 1it's just retarded devs trying to be faggots
>>739174170I haven't played Subnautica 2 yet so no idea how it works. But in the first game you killed fish to get food and water.
>>739174170It's not that big of a deal, it's more so the devs virtue signaling hard over it and also personally it's just another thing sub1 has over 2. Also you have to deal with shark equivalent faggots constantly harassing you instead of just murdering them.
The problem with these types is that they feel the need to flaunt their virtue all the time.He could have simply said, "Weapons that kill fish would break the game", which would be true at least in the first game. If you had a selection of weapons there, practically all the tension and gameplay logic would be lost.
>>739219290you do have a selection of weapons in the 1st game
>>739218826People really do personify the "pretend not to understand argument" meme.
>>739219334The weapons in the first game are limited and generally designed for defense. In Subnautica 2, the concept remains the same, right?
>>739219567there are no weapons in 2
>>739219601no Gasopod piss or the like?
>>739219736Nothing that can do damage to fish
>>739219567>In Subnautica 2, the concept remains the same, right?LOLLMAO
>>739202438its a tale as old as time
>>739218826The issue is creatures in this game are constantly violent to the point of annoyance. And you have absolutely ZERO ways of stopping it, you literally have to just take damage and deal with the sound effects spamming in your ear.You cannot push them away, you cannot create a deterence zone, nothing.Thats just bad game design.
>go for a walk>get raped by violent mobs>pull out knife>get arrestedAaaaah, London, home.....
>>739219601>>739219814Holy shit... I thought it was so obvious that you'd start with a knife that I didn't even consider the possibility that there wouldn't be one, and I thought the players were complaining about the lack of offensive and destructive weapons...
>>739220349Even stupider, your NON-LETHAL tools don't work either.
>>739174039>all the trannies defending pronouns in games as "OPTIONS GOOD" suddenly saying it's good the game doesn't let you kill fish
>>739212470qrd?
>>739174296>>739174447>>739175759>>739176317If there was a total IP ban on Israel and anyone with semetic genes, none of these posts will ever appear, can you guess why?
>>739174170>>739174039How do you get food then?
>>739221474You WILL synthesize plant matter into nutrient slopMy source: I just made it the fuck up
>>739202438That genre of person is a jewish person. Its a jewish argumentative style. You may have a noticed a recent tactic to try to degrade the word "woke" or counter the noticing because the goyim have a word to grasp their narrative manipulation and esau's gambit.Spoiler warning: they will fail.
>>739221524>You may have a noticed a recent tactic to try to degrade the word "woke"Yeah, that one's funny too>Oh? Don't like child molestation? Woke right>Don't want your kids to be stabbed by illegals? Woke right!
Isn't this new one made by an entirely different team? You all should have known then it was going to be taken over by retarded faggots who cry when they hear or see words like nigger and rape. Enjoy you slop.
>>739221846No the OG team took over again. Which is why they're crying over people wanting to stab fish, the replacement devs probably wouldn't have given a shit but the OG devs are crippled by their ideology.
>>739174039400+ replies holy shit op was right
>build next to a nice coral tower over a cave rich with natural resources>fine for the first 3 or 4 hours of the game>get the tadpole>apparently the tadpole is like fucking crack to the fish that spend all day ramming their heads against the coral>base basically becomes unusable until I built the tadpole dock, and even then they won't fuck off and are constantly ramming into my moonpool>can't kill them>can't get them to fuck off with the sonic gun>finally have enough of this shit>relocate my base to a geothermal vent overlooking the tadpole pens, but far enough away from the two big fish circling the tailing village>some little sardine swims up to me after I've spent about 20 minutes building>summons the big fish from a mile away>my new base is being orbited by a living alarm system that sends sharks to kill me>I can't do fucking ANYTHING about itI don't even care about the faggot-ass virtue signaling, this shit is just un-fucking-forgivable from a game design perspective. I don't even need to kill the fish, just give me some sort of sonic emitter attachment for my base that repels these shitheads.
>>739222515>the replacement devs probably wouldn't have given a shit but the OG devs are crippled by their ideology.Ah, so they've always been faggots. It's amazing they've made some really retarded changes like >>739203171 points out. This game doesn't sound like it's even worth it to pirate it.
>>739191775>probablyspinoff bors I dont feel so good
What's crazy about all of this controversy is that all they had to do was add alternate, non-violent, but effective means to deter or repel aggressive creaturesAnd they just didn't fucking do it
>>739223739Yes, bases need some sort of "NO FISHFAGS ALLOWED" 5G tower structure that keeps them away. Also the sonic gun needs to actually do something and make them fuck off for a while.
>>739174039>Hooman with 3D print technology>can build a fucking submarine>weapon? Nigga you crazy? I'm pretty sure no one asking for a leviathan killer, just tool to deal with small faggot
>>739174605This it just feels so stupid>it's ok Mr shark you can bully me and I will just be a cuck and not hurt you back
>>739224293Alterra is a tyrannical nightmare corporation run by shitlibs. Refusing to arm endangered employees out of a retarded HR mandate is completely on brand.
>>739176458List off 4 games that bombed and Jackie Chan
>>739174039then what the fuck do i eat
>>739188836>Reddit frog
>>739225709The fish of course, or you can throw them into your bioreactor to be ground down into electricity.
>>739174170I was angry that all you had for your defense was your little pocket knife.I rather play grounded thsn this shit
>>739223475isnt this dude immune to like bullets and stuff
>>739174039Tried out subnautica years ago, and to me it was boring, just another survival slop game just under water so I don't really care that much. But as a distant observer, it is kinda a weird choice to not allow harming creatures considering you live in the ocean full of apex predators that harm and eat each other 24/7 and attack you. Don't even know if you could harm creatures in the first game as it was so bland I dropped it like 3 hours in and don't remember anything lol. So it is essentialy a stardew valley underwater just with hostile creatures that devs artificially block you from harming.
Theres something spiritually evil about placing the rights and wellbeing of sea insects above humanity.
Would be funny if only the two blacks could use some self defense skills but not the white guy or the gook/chink slut
>>739187712this has happened in so many places. Largely like-minded people can be made to believe they're arguing against people with radically different opinions.
>real environmentalist>kill apex predator fish to prevent them from overpopulating>NIGGERS>don't hurt le dumb animal :(
>Survival/crafting game>You can't kill the wildlifeI'm shocked are people are annoyed by this.
>>739226428*aren't
>>739213962Thank god someone finally said it
>>739226016>Don't even know if you could harm creatures in the first gameYou get a mech suit and get to robopunch the shit out of every asshole fish that tormented you.
not sure why they're expecting me to buy this game lol
>>739174039What do you eat?
>>739202438>person
>you are suppose to let them keep fucking with you!!Just letting you know that Minecraft letting you beat the shit out of chicken
sub2 is just a bunch of recycled cut content from sub1
>>739202748>>739202748
>>739196187Underrated
>>739187712>>739226383You're both retarded
>>739228051If it floats your boat.
>>739228095You're both trying to convince yourselve's you're smarter than the average person.You aren't.
>>739174170>>739174039This is all very faggot coded. Then again, I never bothered with the second game because I'm not brown
>>739228240get a tan fag
>>739228179That's not my intent at all, and I don't think highly of my post, I just know this is a syphilus discussion that shouldn't even exist.
>>739174039this thread is nothing but subversion simply by presenting an idea, like dropping food color into water
>>739174170>All these posts about how the player now has to eat onions and forced veganism>Yet the player can still catch and cook all the small fish they desire, just like the first gameYeah, fake outrage indeed. Can't wait for the Youtube videos titled "DEI IDEOLOGY INFESTS UNDERWATER GAME"
>>739176771>lesbian elves at the north poleYeah but are they hot lesbian elves?
>>739221474By catching fish dumbfuck.
>All these anons that genuinely think that every single fish are invulnerable because of woke
>>739174039The first game forced you to play as an ugly negro mutt, so I'm not surprised the sequel is even more pozzed. There are far better survival games out there like Factorio, Conan Exiles (legacy version), Don't Starve/Don't Starve Together, Project Zomboid and so much more that are worth your time
>>739229136Subnautica 1 was released 8 years ago, and you're still mindbroken over that character being brown?
>grab fish>laser them into food/drinkable water/electricity >uh actually, you don't kill fishwhat?
>>739229209the character never stopped being brown
>>739229237That's why the outrage in this thread is so retarded.
>>739229209>nooo, stop noticing
>>739229237>>739229262It was never really about food, it's about self-defense against bigger fish
This whole lefist shit is so obviously controlled opposition psyops, basically they want you to not defend yourself against anything so any violent power can take over and you can't do shit, but their problem is that their propaganda is basically useless to anyone with more than 2 braincells, why even make a game like this then, a fucking fishtank simulator probably better at this point
>>739230087>they want you to not defend yourself against anything so any violent power can take over and you can't do shit,
>>739174039How come fish can eat other fish but I can't eat fish?
>>739230721How come fish can eat humans but I can't
>>739230721You can still catch and eat fish, retard.
>>739181173Both you AND it for perpetuating the cycle of violence and conflict that defines all earthly organisms, instead of trying to reach samsara
>>739174039>you're here to go extinctassail game developers
>>739229136Riley may be dios mio but he didn't yap which was a huge plus.
>>739218826>>99% of games are violentI don't know how accurate that is, considering that there are a lot of sports games out there.Also, games like Abzu and Endless Ocean are how you do a non-violent ocean game.Subnautica is a fucking survival game where many creatures are a threat to your existence. Trying to enforce peacefulness in such a setting is absolutely retarded.
>>739229136>Conan Exiles (legacy version)Why the legacy version specifically?
