Why exactly does he rely on mercenaries for essential military operations?
>>739184818He's a dog, for one
>>739184818His forces are getting their collective ass handed to them.
Corneria is a failed state.
>>739184818Make them the vanguard who do the dangerous enemy dense missions so your own troops are at less risk while mopping up.Also they're just really good
>>739185161Slippy is not 'good' under any stretch of the imagination.
>>739185602He only sucks in comparison to those around him, not the average pilot
>>739184818Space version of letters of marque.
>>739184818The comic details it: Star Fox were the only ones capable of piloting the Arwings in their OG configuration.It even kind of bit him in the ass as Pigma flew off with one.
>>739185602Slippy is the mechanic/inventor/technical of the team. He's capable, but he brings more than great piloting to the team. Gameplay-wise, it's represented by him showing you boss health. He's able to analyze shit for you.
Slippy is also the youngest. He shows great potential.
the same reason real world governments use mercernaries
He's renting advanced space fighters that either saves the planet or gets wiped.If starfox dies do you think Rob would still bother trying to get late payments from Corneria?
>>739185853then why can i still see boss health when slippy's not in the level due to his ship being disabledsorry, but you're a liar
>>739186108https://web.archive.org/web/19980213033539/http://www.starfox64.com/slippy.htmlNo u.
>>739186108The great fox is always watching
>>739186108You can't, the health bar is gone if Slippy is (at least in 64)
>>739186294What, no way
>>739186253He didn't design the Landmaster? Interesting
>>739184818He explained it, his army was overpowered.
>>739185602He's the engineer.
>>739184818The average Cornerian is fat and weak.
>>739185602I mean, Falco gets in trouble too then he blames the G-diffuser, same with Peppy, it seems Fox is the only Good Pilot in the galaxy
Standing armies are expensive and they probably got complacent before Uncle Andy started smearing them.
The Arwings are OP bullshit. >Says fuck you to gravity>Can roll to deflect lasers>Can carry mini nukes>Never runs out of lasers and they are strong enough to wreck armor>Can fly without wings>Pilots don't feel a thing when flying around>So stealthy that the only way to spot them is via sight
>>739186604Falco is only dodgy skill wise because you don't play as him until Assault. He's canonically on par with Fox and that's why he's the only one who helps with secret objectives in 64.
>>739187023IIRC, the g-diffusers nullifies the G-Force within the cockpit: allowing for supersonic speed without the pilot being crushed into the back of their seats. It makes the Arwing one of (if not, the) fastest fighter craft around.
>>739184818Andross caught Corneria off guard, thus they rely on Star Fox to take down the super weapons while they take care of the rest.
>>739187023>can fly into the sun
>>739188521>cant be destroyed by the heat>it just drains the shields
>>739184818the majority of wars in history were done between entities with no standing armies, and along with whatever personal retinue a lord might have mercenaries were the only professionals involved
>>739184818I prefer the original game's canon where Corneria owns the Arwings and hires Star Fox only because they're the most capable pilots around and none of the Cornerian pilots can handle flying the Arwings.
>>739187023Don't forget that by the time of Assault, it's stated to have the strongest firepower in the Lylat System. Fox and his dad have the same idea: either go big or go home, and they are willing to spend a pretty penny to do it.
>>739185602He's the tech He probably isn't really meant to be fielded for regular missions and instead stay on Great Fox, but it's kind of an emergency
>>739184924For two?
I always think Rick May voiced Pepper because of his Soldier look/style but I mix him up with Peppy.
>>739185602>
>>739184818they can't rely on their own military
>Peppy HARE>Slippy TOADSo why are those two the only ones whose last name is their species when everyone else has their species in their first name and a regular ass last name?
>>739191925> everyone else has their species in their first nameFalco is a pheasant
>>739191925They were Sonic characters
>>739184818The army is corrupt
>>739191925Not every character even has an animal name in their name at all.>James McCloud>General Pepper>Andrew Oikonny>Leon Powalski
>>739187023And yet the Wolfen shits all over them, curious.
>>739190864See >>739185161
>>739184818They're expendable
>>739184818Its explained he is incompetent and the cornerian army was not ready whatsoever to counter Andross forces
>>739184818He's a metaphor for Americans>WE'RE SO STRONG AND VIRTUOUS>oops our own soldiers are too fat and stupid to fit their piggy fingers through a trigger guard, better hire some Arab pedophiles and pay them in little boys
>>739184818Exactly a good undertone sequel plot for a civil war. "Why does the CDF suck ass so much to let the enemy get this far in"
>>739192968>Shoots you downHIT+50
>>739192968>Jobs to Arwings every time they engage in a dogfight>"shits all over"
>>739193235In specs I meantFox is just the much better pilot compared to Wolf
>>739184818he's sending them on a suicide mission to go take down the enemy general while the actual army focuses on defense.It's not like you have to pay them if they die.
>>739192897General Pepper is a Beatles reference. Andrews last name is a Japanese pun.
>>739184818Is he a dictator?
>>739185602Okay, enjoy doing all that maintenance yourself, then
>>739184818I think Fox is not very fond of him in the new game>hey general you seem a little on edgeNigga thousands are dying
>>739192968Probably because Andross worked on them.Andross is actually a very competent engineer
did you guys ever notice how slippy has a blue jumpsuit but his player icon is green? shouldn't he be blue?
>>739193490I thought it was a play on a popular soda
>>739192968The Wolfen Mark I is on par with the Arwings. Maybe even minutely better in some of its maneuverability since it was reverse engineered from the Arwing Pigma stole.Wolfen Mark II was absolutely better, but the pilots were lacking.
>>739194231Sargent Peppers, his outfit is literally based on it. They continue the joke in the Goodbye Falco manga where the evil green Pepper is named Captain Shears after the character Billy Shears.
>>739184818StarFox is a PMC and Corneria is basically a military dictatorship.
>>739192897>James named his fox son FoxThis will never not be funny to me
>>739195137There are people named Guy out there
>>739194351>Goodbye Falco manga where the evil green Pepper is named Captain Shearshe's just another dog and the ACTUAL joke started in the nintendo power comic where pepper calls fox and fox says, "i thought he was a sargent"
>>739195197At least they aren't called Man.
>>739186462https://web.archive.org/web/19980213033733/http://www.starfox64.com/lmaster.htmlHe didn't design it, but their isn't a stock model. They don't do stock anything.
>>739195137iirc in the SNES continuity his dad's name was also Fox, so it was Fox McCloud Sr. and Fox McCloud Jr.
>>739195842Mann is used as a name.
>>739196086https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Mann-Dude
>>739192897Leon Powalski is a chame-leon.
>>739195842Guy Manson
nuKatt is cute
>>739196295Her design grew on me. She's supposed to be a loner mercenary with a criminal past so sure looking like an unkempt stray cat makes sense
>>739195197I always kinda liked Guy as a name. Guy of Gilsborne has a very specific ring to it. And is a good character archtype.
>>739184818Because his personnel are incompetent? In Assault they were getting their asses beat by fucking ANDREW until Fox and co. showed up. To be fair I'm pretty sure the narrative is supposed to be that Corneria only has a tiny military in the first place because Lylat is generally so peaceful. I think that new multiplayer mode in the remake is like the first time it's ever even been established that there are independent space pirates who are out there to potentially cause trouble.
>>739195197Yeah the final fight character nobody picks up
Basically dogs are shit pilots, and corneria is a 90% plus dog populationMore feral animals like wolves and foxes are much better at it
>>739195137Star Human
>>739196503It doesn’t. She’s literally named after Marilyn Monroe. She’s supposed to be beautiful and flirty. Quit coping.
>>739198084>Her name is a reference to a real life person so she's supposed to be like that person. Nevermind her actual backstoryYou Kattfags don't even care about the character. You're just upset Nintendo made her less fuckable in the remake
>>739185602By the way, how is the clearly racist joke Fox cracks about him in any way acceptable? I'm not being ironic.
>>739184818What the fuck are you telling me Star Fox has been a mercenary this entire time and not part of the military?
>>739198693yeah
>>739198587What racist joke? The only one I can think of offhand is Zero with Slippy telling Falcon to translate for the bird boss.>>739198693Always has been.
Cornerian army has been pushed back to their home planet and being invaded when Star Fox is sent out to assault Andross's forces. So basically, Fox and his team catch Andross's army by surprise with a sudden counterattack that ends up taking away their momentum.
>>739196843ThisMost of the time, the Lylat system is peaceful, so there aren't large scale standing military assets. A really good comparison for what this looks like, is a lot of America's foreign bases. Technically there are people there, but realistically in any sort of blitz they're effectively undefended. This is why Andross, and then Oikeny are able to make such rapid progress in their respective conflicts. The early push is against mostly undefended installations while Corneria puts its pants on, and then Corneria's army is functionally smaller and less well trained. Additionally, every Cornerian ship is piloted by a Cornerian, while many of Andross' weapons and ships are autonomous, or else engineered bioweapons, with nearly zero self preservation instincts, that are willing to do suicidal banzai charges, and enact strategies that would result in an instant mutiny if they were real people.
Could the Star Fox Team take out the Death Star?
>>739198941Is Darth Vader aware of them and launching his own squadron to seek them out?If so then a timely save by James McCloud would be needed like how Luke needed Han to come back and help.
>>739192046Falco wasn't any real species, at least not an accurate representation of one. The designs gave him very aggressive facial features and a hooked beak because they wanted him to look like a bird of prey even though his design was initially based on a pheasant.
It's legitimately cool how Caiman and his squadron throw everything at Star Fox and start to panic when they just blast through everyone anyway. Like you had the entire enemy army of the ropes.
>>739198825The one he makes in the Mario movie. Something like "that's what you get when you make a frog your engineer"
>>739190871Is there one of this for Jock Blaney?
>>739196295>>739196503Wake up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9cbz7Kf5YU
>>739198941ProbablyIt might be a suicide mission though. The Arwing wouldn't be able to make the shot into the vent (requires guided ammunition capable of near right angle turns), but is probably maneuverable enough to make it into the vent itself. The problem is blowing the core, and then escaping before the death star blows up.
>>739199173Area 6 is easily the coolest mission in Star Fox 64.Macbeth has more sovl, but Area 6 is so fukkin cool. The boss is a bit awkward though. Sector Y is also really cool, and I fukkin love how the route split factor is just kill count. That implies so much about how the route splits work in a lore and narrative sense.
>>739186326Its true you fuck. Even in Titania you initially do not see the Boss' health bar until you free Slippy
>>739185853Why would a mercenary squad need an inventor? That's fucking stupid.
>>739199049YeahFalco is somewhere between a bird of prey, a corvid (jay, specifically) and maybe a little pheasant. No particular bird, but a smattering of bird features. I actually have a variety of blue jay that has pretty remarkably Falco-esque features where I live, down to the more angular facial structure (probably just feathers), mostly just missing the clearly more raptor-esque beak that Falco has.
In the SNES game, the Star Fox base is on Corneria and their Arwings are explicitly the property of the Cornerian army.>"Take care of my Arwings!"
>>739184818You act as if this hasn't been a common practice throughout history.
>>739199850Considering Star Fox mostly functions by virtue of having fighters significantly more advanced than nearly anything else in the Lylat system, a personal engineer is actually really fucking important.Without one, at one end, you need to educate Billy Ray Joe Bob at the mechanic shop you stopped at, on what the fuck a G-diffuser is, how it works, what all the different bits and bobs on it do, and make sure he knows not to introduce a current exceeding X number of amps to it.At the other end, the mechanic you use immediately sells your technical secrets to whoever buying and you lose your edge in a few years.
The Carthaginian army (the army of Hannibal) was mainly made up of mercenary forces.The 1st Punic War led to a massive mercenary war rebellion in Carthage's territory that Roman armies actually went and put down to help their new weakened "allies," which was what pushed Hamilcar (Hannibal's father) to make his son swear to fight Rome until the day he died over a sacrifice to their gods.
THE HATCHES ARE OPEN!
>>739199913The SNES game is another continuity altogether also. The Star Fox team has slightly different backgrounds, including different ages to how Star Fox 64 would later determine and shape all Star Fox games that came after.
>>739200437It did retain certain things like how Fox's dad was "lost" during a mission and may still be alive depending on how you understand him showing up while Fox escapes Venom. In the SNES game, the warp zone black hole is said by Pepper to be created by Andross and also where Fox's dad vanished.
>>739198243Even her characterization is different. Her original design and namesake aren't nothing. She's obviously not supposed to be masculine or ugly, and there's no reason for her to be rough around the edges. 2026 Katt is enshitified for the sake of modern tastes, typical western studio slop.>she's supposed to be a loner mercShe has it out for Andross for fucking her over, so she stole one of his fighters and converted into a custom ship and stops at nothing to sabotage his forces.She has her own interests and fights for her own reasons.You're the pot calling the kettle black when you claim he doesn't care about the character, if indeed you're the same anon he he quoted.A female character can have high standards for her appearance, present as feminine, and even be a criminal and self-interested fighter.Quit advocating for enshitification of what other people love. It makes you look like a tourist and a fag. The game's art style is lousy and wouldn't be a good direction for the series going forward because it's generic and ugly.Attractive-looking characters with this art style would still look ugly.
>>739201019ThisFalco is an ex-gangster, but he isn't rocking meth beak, shitty prison tattoos and piercings. There's tons of ways you could do Katt that include a criminal aspect to her life, without making her a crack whore. Hell, even doing a contrast gap-moe sort of design could have worked great. They just made her look ugly because that's what sells in the west.
>>739201019>nigga getting this mad over space animals
>>739201019Nah she is must better looking now, Im sick of pink cats
>>739201230>What are you talking about bro, that's clearly still recognizable as Falco. It's a much more fitting design for his status as a former gang member.
>wHaT cOuLd FaLcO bE!?!?A falcon... a cartoon falcon... which is why his name is FALCO
>>739200367Don't mind if i do
>>739201405How many games have pink cats to be sick of them?
Star Fox are specialists.You're doing things the army cannot do, and weren't meant to do.When you go through Area 6, you're not destroying every single ship, you're just breaking through it. Because at that point, the only realistic objective left is Andross.This is not something a bulk army could have done. You're taking out Andross, to make his entire army fold.The Arwings, and Great Fox, are special ships, for swift and extremely long range purposes.Why do people keep asking this shit...?
nobody wanna talk about how each arwing is customized now? Falco's has his wings on it now.meanwhile did anyone else see that shot of fox getting mad at Pepper, what are the odds that's likely a redone version of the slippy shots knocked to titania event? as for the conflict itselfstar fox zero says venom and Cornelia have been at war for 5 years now Pepper largely kept the conflict on other planets so his citizens could enjoy peace without worry and thus they were in a stalemate with Andross until he managed to successfully reverse engineer the teleporter however one thing begs to question, if Venom ws always a barren planet that wasn't really a planet where the hell did Andross find enough people for an army, enough people who despise Pepper so much that they'd side with Andross over him, while the typical enemy we see are monkeys the guy in area 6 losing his shit and the secondary boss in corneria are explicitly not monkeys they look more like goblins?
>>739199557I always thought that was either the force or the vent had some sort of suction
>>739199747I-I-i didn't mean it that way, I just couldn't believe I never noticed it.
>>739203207>now
>>739203249It was definitely the force
>>739192897Leon is an obvious Blade Runner reference.
>>739203207>the hell did Andross find enough people for an army,A lot of Andross' forces are autonomous, or genetically engineered bio weapons.Actual people pretty much only serve in coordination or intelligence & communication roles, or else oversee mission critical equipment. The average Andross ship has nobody in it.
>>739203207Sir this is a kid's game
>>739192897>Andross Oikonnylmao goofy aah last name, no wonder he mad
>>739192897Also Bill Grey.
>>739184818Andross had his way with the military
>>739203820D-did he use protection?
>>739203736i know, that's the beauty of it, arguing the nuisances of video games is what makes us gamers.
>>739203820Andross won't have his way with me.
>>739204082Good luck
>>739204265Who says that line anyway, ROB 64 has a different voice and no one else has a voice that deep, is it James? Or is Fox schizophrenic and making a deeper voice and telling himself good luck
>>739202308Why don't they just use special forces then rather than employing a mercenary group?
>>739204693I THINK it's General Pepper's japanese voice. It's hard to say for certain though, my Japanese VA sense is only okay
>>739204746They ARE special forces..You can be that and a privateer at the same time.
>>739204746that's kinda what star fox is pepper relies on them to do things he can't risk his army doing, if a merc band is doing it and they fuck up Pepper can wash his hands of them and not be hurt politically or legally where as it were his own special forces unit he'd be in a heap of trouble if they were found out or taken captured or public ally killed in actionStar Fox is basically Blackwater for but the people in it and the people employing them have morals it's only implied in Zero but Katt seemed tobe working as Pepper's spy on Zoness, you never thought it odd that despite pepper also watching fox in the gyro-wing do his espionage mission, the same mission he never expressed shock that someone was there that wasn't an enemy? You never thought it strange that pepper immediately suggested fox take the gyro-wing into the portal they were trying to take the gigarilla into despite common sense saying androsses forces would be on the otherside to completely secure their target and fox in a weaker slower piece of equipment wouldn't stand a chance in that scenario?
>>739184818Because every military does.Because corneria was hit with a surprise attack and most of its forces were devastated.Because who cares.
The name Falco is probably a reference to Millennium Falcon I'm guessing
The new music is good tbdesuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZkgGtkrfmE
>>739205235True, "Team Star Fox. ready for duty" is what Fox says in Assault https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bquR1kUkRXMman I love the opening mission it's so Star Fox I wish these cowards would move on already to a new story
>>739192897>Powalski
>>739205618I don't like that song anywhere near as much as 64's., it loses the charm of the original by adding more instruments. It's not he same vibe and it's not as good a composition/arrangement. I really like Area 6, good one to have stuck in your head from the 2026 soundtrack.Overall I'm relieved that this soundtrack makes me forget the travesty that was 3D's soundtrack, Zoness was so disappointing in that game.
>>739184818Weren't Fox and Slippy part of Corneria's military for a brief stint? It's not like Pepper chose the team out of the blue given the original Star Fox has likely helped him in the past and possibly as a favor so Fox can get payback for what happened to James.
>>739201019You did not give a single shit about this character until smashing Miyu and Fay design traits on a realistic cat face made her less hot.
>>739199440That's scary looking.
>>739206236>it loses the charm of the original by adding more instrumentsThis is always the problem I have with orchestral video game music, especially when it's trying to "improve" on classic tracks. It's always so self-indulgent and ends up turning into a forgettable blob of music, losing all the simplicity, memorability, and catchiness of the original. Less is more, orchestraslop always tries way too hard with "more instruments are always better."
>>739184818Ask Russia, they're doing exactly that in Ukraine right now
>>739184818Two words: Plausible deniabity
>>739192897poles are animals
>>739192897He's called Leon (レオン) because he's a chameLEON (カメレオン)Way too many people missed the wordplay
>>739206485I've always liked her ever since I first reached Zoness 26 years ago. I'm critical of her characterization and her design in 2026. At best you are a tourist projecting onto me, and otherwise you are at worst a shitposting troll trying to provoke me for your own amusement.She's the worst designed character in this remake, but her appearance, as jarring as it is, isn't the only thing marring the legacy of the original character.The brief reveal in the trailer demonstrates that 2026 Katt is a different character with the same given name and in-game role, than the one from 64.Nothing about her is superior to the old design.>>739206710It's uncanny, but more importantly the characterization is spot on.>>739206879I agree.There are good official arrange soundtracks out there for a variety of IPs but I don't think any of them are ever truly faithful, like F-Zero and F-Zero X, but they still get self-indulgent and break off from faithfully recreating the OST and take artistic liberty.I love F-Zero's arrange album and it got me into Fusion and Japanese Jazz music, but it's not what you should listen to if you want to listen to SNES F-Zero songs. Great album otherwise.Sidenote, the arrange album for Melee was good. I think it was pack-in for a Nintendo Power magazine or something.
>it's actually good that star fox looks weird and ugly because it was always a serious ugly war gamePeople are so fucking Westoid now brained that it's kinda scary.
>>739208550shut up bitch
>>739208550They're tourists. They never loved this series and then have the gall to treat us like we were never fans because we're critical of the 2026 remake.
>>739201019holy incel meltiefurries usually tank this shit and carry on
>>739208550Sorry I dont want another cute anthro game and I want something serious out of nintendo for once
>>739208232>It's uncanny, but more importantly the characterization is spot on.I don't think that fits the characterization seen in Command, IE the only time she has more than four lines.
not realistic enough, we need to go deeper
>>739208831lol Ive loved this series since the snes, you bitches that want animal crossing characters are the fucking tourists suck my cock
>>739208232>the characterization is spot on.It's literally just her saying "beautiful" a few times and referencing a single line from 64 where she flirts with you.
>>739199850>Why would a mercenary squad need an inventor? That's fucking stupid.It makes perfect sense for them to have an engineer. It's sending him out into combat that wasn't a great idea
>>739191751why does slippy have an anal beads collar?
>>739187023Yeah I feel like Star Link really highlights how crazy their ships are. Everyone else has like one of a kind ancient tech or cobled together machines from the best things they can find and then the Arwings are just mass produced ships that can keep up with them like it's no big deal.
>>739184818In the probably non canon Star Fox 1 manual it explains they dumped a bunch of money into the Arwing program and didn't have any test pilots ready so they just hired Star Fox, already well known, ace pilots. Furry Blackwater I guess.
>>739208865Good thing I'm not one, and I'm merely a passionate fan for my second favorite video game series.>only furries like star fox>>739208962Command's is an entirely different characterization. That game flanderized nearly everyone, and some characters are so badly written as to be bastardizations of the characters they once were.That game's writing turned Star Fox into a parody of itself.It actually killed the series, and that timeline has never been rebooted.>>739209025Yet you have the audacity to tell me what I like and don't like, and I what I want. You don't know me or what I prefer. I too have loved this series since the SNES as well.I don't want AC characters at all. You are projecting a strawman onto me because you are completely disingenuous.>>739209075Now contrast it with the 2026 trailer and tell me which of the two characters are more faithful to 64 Katt's dialogue and personality.
>>739201019They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth.
>>739209675>Arwings are just mass produced shipsNot really, it was a lore point in the lylat wars that the arwing were experimental ships that were being tested by starfox and had yet to be put in mass production for the rest of the fleet. Assault shows them finally being incorporated into the fleet just as the apariods invaded with numbers so they weren't that useful except for SF who avoid most of the main fighting till they invaded the bug home world. Command shows that every ship the cast are using is now a different arwing class and possibly modified to the pilot's specs as well.
>>739184962What was their tax policy you think?
>>739199187I was thinking that too when watching the movie lol
>>739210078I was going by Assault.
>>739201950hes actually not a falcon
>>739201269ask me how I know you're a fag?
>>739196849There's also the party member in Final Fantasy 2, Tales of the Abyss, and Fire Emblem 7. The name Guy doesn't pop up in games very often so you need to enjoy it when you can.
was Andross always a floating head with hands or did he just do that to himself?
>>739184818Because Andross has a stronger army and arguably a more competent military leader.
>>739210429there's also guy sensei from naruto. he's absolutely more well known than those
>>739199440Lol new FNAF tier animation
>>739196295WeLikeKatt
>>739210495>arguablyhe was kicking corneria's ass. its only the absolute bonkers maneuverability of the arwing with its g diffusers that let them break through the more inferior less mobile enemy ships. we get to see corneria fighting and both ships are slow and shitty and you can literally blow up cornerian ships by accident with a single shot
>>739203552>>739198941>>739199557The torpedoes were shot in dumbfire mode, remember? It was the Force that made them go in.
>>739184924kek
>>739210212>I was going by Assault.ah gotcha. Honestly Starfox setting is a bit of a high tech technology setting as throughout the different iterations Andross was banned for experimenting with portal tec that exploded to much in big cities, created illegal Biomechanical monsters or both. Energy weapons seem to be the standard and let's not forget that Adventures shows there is also magic and ancient spirits as well at play as well. Also instead of a armada all sides refer to their forces as armies, fight in laser and energy beam spam combat that is akin to space artillery and large capital ships that are shot down normally show a single captain with maybe deck crew a operating them which would put the personnel for the ships to potentially being within the double digits which is beyond ridiculous for ships of those sizes unless they relate a lot on technology to help automate their function.
>>739210851I think that scene shows that the targeting array was supposed to show at what distance they were supposed to fire the dumb missiles which were set a certain time to detonate. Like with the first bombing wave the torpedoes went in too early and detonated before they reached the core which is why when Luke trusted the Force he turned off the computer and waited for the force to tell him when to fire.
>>739184818It's kind of retarded>Has the most civilized and advanced planet of the entire system pre-Andross exile>Subcontracts out the recon job to Venom instead of having ANY of his own troops do itProbably would have saved James' life too>>739185602Slippy is a brilliant engineer and Fox's childhood friend.
>>739199173Someone pointed how contextually, each route has the war taking on different tides of battle, where the hard route is the team on the offensive pushing the enemy forces back whereas the easy route the Cornerian forces are the ones more on the ropes, Andross' army invaded and planted a bomb, you have to retrieve a fallen teammate, etc.
>Be Fox in an alternate timeline where Ninty wasn't so hung up on remakes>Get the magic staff and a fuckload of guns at the same time>Use the staff rocket boost to get up a cliff, pull a sniper rifle and headshot somebody>Come down from the top of the cliff, rocket forward into a group of enemies, use Super Quake>Pick up a machine gun from one of the guys you killed and riddle some robot with lasers>Fly your stealth Arwing on a recon mission into hostile space>Maybe do some Mass Effect sidequests idk
>>739199440>event horizonhere's your adventures remake Krystal bros
>>739205618Star Fox: Assault is genuinely in my top 3 video-game soundtracks, I love it that much.Crazy how the music I have heard for this game may actually contend with it.Like the music tracks that Nintendo shared are all really, really good.
>>739185602Why didn't Slippy upgrade his lasers before taking on this boss fight? Is he stupid?
>>739184818And what are the ramifications of hiring them on the Cornerian taxpayer? Do you think they have bleeding hearts who think the government overspends on war, or hippies who throw tomatoes at the Starfox crew?
>>739199187>>739198825>>739198587reposting what I said in a thread a while ago because it pisses me off tooI understand it's a one line throwaway joke and I understand movie Fox is very different from actual Fox, but what canon of Fox is ever written to talk shit about Slippy like this? I can't help but autistically dissect how fucked up this joke is>Slippy is Fox's best friend since childhood. Not just his comrade like the others in the crew but his CLOSEST friend>His engineer skills FAR outweigh his pilot skills. He designed the modern Arwing and repairs them after every mission, is the one to analyze mechanical boss enemies for their HP, and designed the Landmaster and Blue Marine all by himself. He has proven his mettle as an engineer, the last thing Fox would badmouth>...if badmouthing was even in Fox's characterHe's being species-ist against frogs, when canonically Lylat people are only really typecasting and racist to primates. You could argue a society that is cool with some racism would probably be, at least sometimes, cool with it to other groups, but Fox would be the last person to do it, I don't even think he's made "monkey" comments as anyone else has.So in every conceivable way this line felt bastardizing to Fox as a character.
>>739211384Not sure the cost of a mercenary team matters when much your fleets are completely destroyed and every planet bombed to hell or wiped out
>>739184818>"Andross has declared war!"His armies are busy on Corneria planet-wide repelling Venomian forces, meanwhile Katina and the outpost on Fichina are also being hammered. He can't be seen commanding his armies to stop fighting on Corneria or Sector Y.This is literally what PMC's like StarFox are for.
>>739211430Pepper's call to Fox in 64 was preemptive>our army alone can't do the jobThey were being invaded but it had barley begun. Also remember, Andross literally had a fleet at Sector Y heading to Corneria, those bitches hadn't even arrived yet and Pepper thinks without Fox they've already lost.
>>739196210Would you? The rat woukd need to be cute
>>739199187I genuinely laughed at that line.
>>739205618It really is. I love the new Corneria theme. Original Meteo is best Meteo, though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvDofAKxbAA&list=RDpvDofAKxbAA&start_radio=1
>>739184818They have super advanced ships that the Lylat military literally can’t compete with. Team Starfox have the fighting power of something like 400 of their fighters, and the only ships even approaching their level are the starwolf vessels.
>>739211547>They were being invaded but it had barley begun.Andross already completely occupied MacBeth, Lylat's main factory and aerospace/munitions manufacturing planetAlready completely polluted and devastated Zoness, though no one seemed to know or care before Star Fox got there.Was in the process of completely destroying AquasWas invading both Fichina and KatinaWhen Star Fox took the job Corneria was invaded and getting carpet bomb/annihilatedThe citizens, if anything, would consider Fox and his team literal gods and would worship them.
>>739211643minor nitpick, they just lazily gave him a stock frog SFX, probably royalty free instead of a voice
Will they ever let us pilot the mobile suits from Sector Y?
>>739209920>That game flanderized nearly everyone, and some characters are so badly written as to be bastardizations of the characters they once were.Wow, you feel very strongly about this, so I bet you have great examples of this happening to Katt, right?
I very much look forward to hearing Zoness' music in the remake. There are small snippets of Aquas and Macbeth in clips on the Japanese website too btw
>>739211384I don't think the Cornerian Citizen is going to have a lot of say in their government if they are not in the military. The fact that we only ever speak to General Pepper when it comes time to speaking to the leader of Corneria kind of implies the system is a military government. Hell there are strong hints Fox and the gang came from a military flying academy as well as his father And given the Nintendo actually understood what a mercenary meant in these games I doubt that was a oversight on their end.
>>739211247I'm afraid to ask what the top two are. I also noticed you never said why the game is any good other than music. I guess "it's good because it just is ok"?
>>739211547Preemptive? Andross literally controlled the entire Lylat System by that point besides two or three contested sports like Katina, the attack on Corneria was basically barging in their front door. If anything it's strange Pepper waited so long, presuming Star Fox wasn't already busy with something else.
>>739210642is her voice kino though?still would
>>739209920>tell me which of the two characters are more faithful to 64 Katt's dialogue and personality.26.Katt isn't just the word "Beautiful" in a sultry tone and double entendre. She flirts with Falco and Fox a bit, but she's also a scrapper. The character design being ugly isn't the same as the writing changing.
>>739190687That's ironic since the arwings performed the worst in universe in assault.
>>739205618>Its literally another over-composed orchestrated remix of existing material.Nintendo has been doing this non-stop since the Wii.
>>739184818>hiring merceniggersISHYGDDT
>>739211843>>739212038You weren't having a conversation with that guy in the first place. He didn't need to provide a list of reasons for why he likes Assault because he was was only bringing it up in the context of its soundtrack, comparing the remake to it favorably.What's your deal, Assaultschizo? Why do you have such a rabid pathological hatred of it that you can't help but spaz out whenever somebody brings it up even incidentally?
>>739201019Katt isnt a character you retard, she's a trope.Specifically, her and falco are Danny and Sandy from Grease, in a 50s american hotrod gang.Her entire "personality" is a reference to something from 70 years ago that nobody even understands anymore, SF64 was full of movie references mostly aimed at boomers and maybe gen X, so ditching that and making katt gritty enough to fit in with their new idea makes perfect sense.
>>739212090Bro is so overhyped, died to eating funny cheese
Falco should have had more alt costumes that completely changed colors in Smash, not just worn different colored uniforms. Only 2 of his alt costumes change his color. And that's terrible.
>>739212090You're right, braindead locals love to sacrifice themselves in the name of patriotism. They'll do it gladly with shit gear and shit pay, too.
>>739211725>Andross already completely occupied MacBeth, Lylat's main factory and aerospace/munitions manufacturing planetLikely was turncoat planet sympathetic to his plans or was captured and quickly converted to andross's army refuel point as I doubt they would have been fast enough to built that rail line and factories within with how fast Starfox showed up.>Already completely polluted and devastated Zoness, though no one seemed to know or care before Star Fox got there.If no one cared that much then it's possible that Zoness was already polluted but it wasn't considered a important issue until they realized the pollution would hinder their retaking of the planet.>When Star Fox took the job Corneria was invaded and getting carpet bomb/annihilated.More than likely that was the advance guard trying to Blitzkrieg the capital world while the rest of Andross's forces secured the other planets, in hopes for a fast win.
>>739212209She's also the doboroneko archetype.I feel weird about their being an Independence Day level in the game when nobody remembers that movie anymore.
>>739212209Why did that need to make her ugly for that?
>>739198941More to the point, who would win in a friendly competition between Star Fox and Rogue Squad?
Here cums a big one!
>>739212282Not sure why you're coping and shit so hard but since you reddit space you must have brain damage.>advance guard trying to Blitzkrieg the capital world And they would have won extremely easily if Fox never showed up. In fact Fox was late to the show. He was late to Sector Y. He was almost late to save Bill's ass. He was almost late to stop the bomb.Pepper should have hired him much, much earlier but waited until his people were almost wiped from the system.
>>739212056>peabrained troglodyte things classical music is too complicated to enjoypaper bag test for posting when?
>>739212318If you think a cat is fine too, then theres no argument to be had, you just need to piss off.>inb4 hurr its about beauty
>>739200367>Throw a bomb in Katina>4 message overlap each others, Flaco/Slippy Peppy bitching that I took their kills, FOOOOX THATS ONE OF OURS, TRY SHOOTING THE BAD GUYS FOX and end with thisNever gets old.
>>739212056I sort of agree with you. MIDI can sound amazing in its own right and it has the added advantage where it can change depending on events during gameplay, something you can't do with orchestra.
>>739212350Arwings are faster, more durable and manoeuvrable than anything RS has access to. They can become invulnerable to lasers too so RS would need to get really lucky with missiles that are easily dodged.The Rogues have numbers but that never mattered to Fox and both sides have plot armour.In the end it would be Fox and Rogue Leader stunt flying and dicking around.
>>739186604Fox is only better because you are in control of him
>>739209920People always shit on Command's writing but I've never seen a good argument for why it's shit aside from "Krystal's acting like a cunt," which is mostly the English localization.
>>739212754It's shit because these people don't actually care for star fox and just want star fox to align with their fur fag fantasies. Command is very much a lick your own adventure game with stories and endings dependent on the players choice. The English localization also did a poor job translating the original Japanese script.
>>739206236>nobody bats an eye at pic related>but robot legs are a schizo fan theory
>>739212754Every one is out of character and it feels hateful towards Fox. Also several characters that should be dead aren't.
>>739212754>Assault never 100% confirmed Fox and Krystal got together to start with, it was just teased a few times, should've been a plot development for the sequel>Fox makes a big deal about his gf being in danger as long as she's on the team, so he kicks her off, but he was apparently fine with it during Assault, and mentions nothing about his beloved best friends constantly being in harm's way>Falco quits the team after he already did that between 64 and Adventures, and there was a whole point about him realizing Star Fox is where he belongs; intro says he longs for the same sort of thrill he felt in Star Fox, so why'd he quit a second time to begin with? Quitting twice within three games makes him look like a flake who can only be kept in line by the promise of excitement or money, and he also just comes across as an unlikable douche, much more dismissive than he was in prior titles>Krystal makes a point of defending Andross to piss off Fox, knowing that he killed his dad and is implied to have been the one who destroyed her homeworld>Wolf is neither the posh sneering villain from 64 or the gruff but well-meaning antihero from Assault, and his characterization is now basically a knockoff Bowser-esque boastful tough guy>Panther was an implied womanizer in Assault, but now he and Krystal are said to have been in a happy relationship; also he's begun speaking in the third person for some inexplicable reason, with none of his earlier eloquent speech>Andrew was implied to be dead, now back with no explanation>Pigma turned into The Thing and got blown up, somehow back again as a giant Rubik's cube with no explanation>Anglars in general; Andross made an entire army of fish men who have been sitting on Venom this whole time, having never been hinted at prior to this point>Peppy has a daughter never hinted at prior to this point>Andross has a grandson never hinted at prior to this point, necessarily implying he also had a hitherto unmentioned wife and child
>>739213043Isn't command more align with how they characters were portrayed in 64 than assault? Command's story was made by the lead star fox guy at the time.
>>739212986The robot leg thing is retarded because of g-diffusers, not because cybernetics are absurd.
>>739212467You got it all wrong, mong. I love classical music but I think orchestral remixes of existing songs is hackish and lazy.Now post some good classical music to prove you're not another pissbaby nostalgiafag licking Miyomoto's taint for Nintendo-buddy points.
>>739213061Fox and krystal became a lot closer after assault but she was also the last one to leave the team which was why fox became afraid of her being in danger and why she eventually left as he got more distant. Falco also is there for the action and will always be there when he's needed but he doesn't want to stay when there's nothing happening since he is a free spirit. Also you can't criticize command for introducing dash out of no where when sauria and dinosaur planet just poofed into existence.
I just watched a Fox in Space for the first time, what do you guys think of it?
>>739213285This video should be the basis for a boss in the new Star Fox.
>>739184818Maybe Corneria is a planet of peace loving fags that never kept a standing army, just a token security force lacking expeditionary capabilities needed to literally rearrange Andross face
>>739212723Oow :3You are cool too anon
>>739203304nta but if it makes you feel any better ive played sf64 at least a hundred times since launch and i dont think i noticed until the 3ds version
>>739213375Gay furry shit but I'm repeating myself.
>>739213043>Every one is out of characterExactly what I'm talking about. Sweeping statements with no meay.>And it feels hateful towards Fox.It's a story about how Fox needs to change his way of thinking if he wants to be a leader and finally leave his father's ghost in the past. The quality of ending you get is directly tied to how seriously Fox takes being the leader of Star Fox and how well he reads social cues and respects his teammates.>Also several characters that should be dead aren't.Just Pigma. And he's the remnants of the Aparoids in Command, which fits with Assault's theming (Pigma is the strongest willed entity left after the queen died).>But AndrewThat nigga blew up twice in 64 and none of you question him being in Assault.
>>739213375Like the banter between Fox and Wolf; plus the second episode leaves some intriguing mysteries surrounding Andross and James which will, no doubt, be revealed by the time episode 3 rolled out.
I know there's a lot of twitter tourist on here taking screenshot of these starfox threads and they'll jump at the chance to defend stuff like NuKatt.>>739212209There's no reason to change her because of that, just play with what you have and make it work. Who gives a shit if no one gets it, Japanese devs frequently put in little references that no kne will get. There's no way someone like her doesn't work in the setting, it's already silly as it is. Hell the fact that characters look like more realistic animals is actually sillier than being full on anthro.
>>739184818Most 'modern' third world nations still rely on mercenaries. About 400 years ago and running back for a millennium, mercenaries were more common than professional armies. Mercenary-based warfare was popular even all the way back to Mycenaean Greece.
>>739213285>y-you're wrong!>p-post music>no, im not gonna do it, im gonna post an unfunny jew being disgusting in public!B4 D5 F#5 B5 F#5 D5 B4 D5 F#5A#4 C#5 E5 A#5 E5 C#5Now play it.
>>739213061I'm just going to point out that Krystal's "defense" of Andross is her trying to explain to Fox why she's struggling to forgive his bullshit while also highlighting the themes of Command as a whole (perspective, forgiveness, cooperation, communication).Star Fox fans are mostly autistic and retarded, so I'm not surprised they can't read between the lines.
>>739213061There's plenty of actual stuff to criticize (too little substance, not enough real story paths, repetition, poor sense for progress of the war) and instead you picked the least intrusive things about it. Impressive.
>>739209920>>739211760...Anon?
>>739213824did fox murder her father? start an interstellar war that devastated billions of lives?
>>739213581>There's no reason to change her because of thatShe's just the N64/3D design with colors swapped and put through the HIRE THIS MAN filter.
>>739213375fera sexo
>>739213519>It's a story about how Fox needs to change his way of thinking if he wants to be a leader and finally leave his father's ghost in the past. The quality of ending you get is directly tied to how seriously Fox takes being the leader of Star Fox and how well he reads social cues and respects his teammates.But he never needed that in 64 and Assaultin 64 the only questionable things he does is charging in to face Andross alone because even through the game doesn't say it outright it's clear Fox wants revenge for his father's murder at Andross's handsthen again the comic protrays fox is as extremely short tempered and arrogant, I don't know the details entirely but isn't a big part of Farewell beloved Falco because he and fox got into a fight and trashed their arwings resulting in an arguement that makes Falco quit the team until he randomly returns to assist fox against the revived andross? as fr as Assault goes this is the most flawed Fox, he's full of hesitation and doubt and a bit afraid to commit to krystal which at the time I didn't understand why seeing how amored he was with her in adventures, he was reminding me of this one anime character who would all perverted with girls and lust after them but if a girl actually started accepting his advances and even flat out propositioned him for sex he'd turn extremely timid, meek and shy, maybe Fox was like that? I mean the boy had no father growing up and as far as a mother goes, I think his mom died early in his life, i hear in the comics andross wanted to fuck her but saw she was into James so he tried to kill james with a car bomb but got her insteadMiyu and Faye never got realized but what connection to fox would they have had if they were?
>>739214185No, of course not. But Fox doesn't give a fuck that Andross killed people. He kills people all the time. Fox is blinded from backing up and being objective or even considering the gray in all this because he has personal stakes in this and is too livid to even consider it. It doesn't matter that Andross had good intentions, or that the people he opposed weren't perfect themselves; he pushed everyone else away and cut all his ties so he could impose his will on everyone else.It's apt. Consider her backstory. Her family and entire planet are gone. Fox is her only rock in the entire galaxy. And when everyone else left him, Fox betrayed her, told her to get lost, because only HE can die for her, not the other way around. And as an empath she KNOWS he's being a selfish cunt and there isn't some better reason. The comparison isn't FAIR, sure, but she can't be fair for the same reason Fox can't. It's not as extreme, but he fucked up big time and she's showing him what she's going through. Whether Fox gets it or not determines the ending you get.People calling it bad writing just because she's being an asshole about it is dumb as hell.
>>739214726>as far as a mother goes, I think his mom died early in his lifeFox's mom was alive and well at least at the time SF64 takes place
Jesus christ what the fuck were they thinking with command's story it legit sounds like ron the death eater type shit. Fox being like this sounds straight up like character assassination I know the series was in dire strats at that point but did they have to make everybody a complete cunt? I remember some new kid Dash that as soon as people saw him said he'd turn evil because he's a monkey, sure enough one his endings is starting another fucking war
>>739214726>Well they didn't bring that up in the other games!Yeah. That's why it's coming up here. It's looking back at the last three games and pointing to Fox's final weakness: he's still chasing the hero he believed his dad to be instead of being his own man. 64 had him take charge and be an excellent pilot that glimpsed his father's ghost in his hour of need, not quite up to the task but on the cusp. Adventures is a clusterfuck but it's still about Fox cooling his temper, becoming more humble and moving on to new things. Assault is about Fox learning to be decisive even when he's uncertain and being confident in his own identity. So Assault is finally trusting others, exercising judgment and restraint over emotion, and working as a true coordinator of people.They definitely didn't have this arc in mind as they wrote it, but each sequel is reacting to the story laid out previously.>Didn't Fox and Falco have a falling outYeah, Falco's arrogance + Fox's weakness as an actual leader led to them parting for years.
>>739214913>No actual discussion, just "DIS IZ STOOPID"What's the issue? Fox's actions in Command are kinda dumb but not terrible. It's really mild for space opera. Do you just want your hero to be right about everything and never learn anything?
>>739214212They got rid of her muzzle. The new design is flat faced.
>>739215119So fox was on the upswing, he had the girl, his friends, his confidence, yet rather than lock in and dunk he crashed out and destroyed his own life for why exactly? Fox could be a capcom lead with how his struggles bite him in the ass at times he sounds way more like Phoenix, X, Frank and several resident evil protagonist than a nintendo character
>>739215220Everyone's snout got sanded down, I don't count that. I guess you're right in so far as they didn't color swap it.
>>739214726No Falco just leaves to find himself or something in that comic.
>>739214726>Miyu and Faye never got realized but what connection to fox would they have had if they were?I believe general pepper put them in the star fox team to assist them during star fox 2. So I don't think they had any existing relationship with star fox as much as pepper forced them to join. The official manual even used the term drafted to describe how they joined. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clvs/manuals/starfox2/html/USen/story.html
The system is at war. The Fox team are given specific strategic jobs whole the main army is fighting across the galaxy.>Reinforcing Corneria so the capital doesn't fall>Assisting the defense of Katina>destroying Andross' threatening bioweapon>attacking Vemon's main supply hub>etcThe only missions that don't really have a narrative purpose are Meteo and Zoness.
>>739214913>what the fuck were they thinking with command's story"I hate the fans. Nintendo cancelled my game 30 years so I'll show them. Fuck you. Fuck Star Fox." - Dylan Cuthbert
>>739215241Less crashed out and more "gave up the girl because he didn't respect her as his partner." He's still hung up on losing dad and the previous adventure had him confronted with the possibility of losing it all once again, so he just cut Krystal out instead of having a hard conversation.One ending is "Fox locks the fuck in and gets her back by respecting her." One is "Krystal cools down and confronts him with The Talk when the war cools off." Another is "Fox gives up, lives a quiet life with her, it's their son's problem now." The rest are just "What if [insert character] gave in to their personal flaw" + the F-Zero ending.
>>739215336If you count sector X and Z has having a purpose then you count Meteo by the same merits
>>739215336Every Zone in 64 makes more sense narratively than Command and Zero's.
>>739214913It's just Gundam.
Don’t party just yet
Did you guys like the James McCloud backstory video? I wanted to like it, but I think it's an event that's better imagined than seen, at least the way they did it was the most generic way possible. It makes me think the rest of the new additions they make to the story won't be that great either.
>didn't notice it before>anon's link to the assault intro Krystal had a pretty big chest back then huh? also a bit of a missed oppertunity to not have krsytal bust out her staff for ground missions when I think on it, there's no reason she shouldn't still have it, it's hers
>>739215864It's fucking enormous. It looks smaller from the front because of the style and cups, but from the side they're gargantuan.
>>739215804No, I don't like any of the cutscenes or added garbage. The new "content" will only drag the game down and they should have just made a new entry to force all this slop into instead.
>>739184818What exactly do you want to see Star Fox do for the next game assuming NS2 Star Fox is successful?
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>>739211223I dislike it less but it's still shit.>>739211760No. She's not the same as 64. I see Fox and Krystal as bastardized. Leon is flanderized, but it doesn't hurt him.>>739212209She can be gritty and at the same time be feminine, make effort to look attractive, be flirty, have a properly formed skull, be covered in pink fur, all at the same time while fitting in with the new art direction. She is a character, regardless of derivation and inspiration from other works of fiction >>739212350Star Fox. I put RS in DIE Wings. Other reply is the better reply though.>>739213375Ep 2 I recommend, good story, good references. Definitely improved without the homoeroticism of ep 1, but it is a better story with better written characters than ep 1. Ep 1 is a solid parody, thinly veiled fetish of the author aside.
>>739216027Her tits don't look different from her other appearances.
>>739216007They're not going to revisit assault or command.
>>739216007I want them to remake star fox 2 like 64 was to the first game then make a completely different game after that called star fox 3.
I like when you beat the game with a high score and the general has to pay the bill he's actually shocked at the cost.star fox bankrupted corneria.
>>739216007The right move is make a new game that plays like star fox. This is impossible. Instead they will get some random literal who studio to shit out a collectathon.
>>739216007I think nintendo fans have to stop hoping that current shit looking game will lead to miraculous genre changing Next Game.
>>739216226This stuff is why I hope the sequel is a remake of star fox 2 since it could imply pepper sold miyu and fay to fox and crew as part of his payment to them.
>>739216031>No examplesDamn, I could have sworn with how hard you were kvetching that Katt was ruined in Command.
>>739210642how much for a tuggy?
>>739216007An entirely new sequel is the best way to go, and that's what I'd expect, none of the other games are popular enough to warrant a remake. I heard Adventures was rumored by a leaker to get a remake, but idk. I do expect Krystal to be reintroduced next game, whatever it is.
>>739216120You're blind.
>>739216007Dream scenario is a completely new game that takes elements from several of the old ones, and then an expanded remake of Star Fox 2, followed by another new game.Realistically, I want either Star Fox 2 Remake or Dinosaur Planet: Good Game Edition. They're not gonna make something 100% new.
>>739216027Her head really throws off how big those jugs are.>>739216007Resident Evil 5 starting Fox McCloud and Krystal the Jungle Princess.
>>739216349Show me then.
>>739216226where does Andross get all his money to pay all his troops and pay off Pigma?
>>739216641andross is an evil inventor, he's probably selling tech and ships to the other planets.
>>739211952no, it sounds generic as fuck
>>739216308I never said she was. I said that the vid is in-line with 64 version. You brought up that it's not in-line with Command's. I never compared the vid to Command's, but to 64 and 2026 only.
>>739184818cute doggo!!
>>739216027god she's hot
>>739216007Redux of Adventures. Remastered models and textures, all faithful to original design. Different game. Action-adventure game, with character-action inside of the adventure game, and rail-shoorer segments occasionally, some like SnP, some like SF. Krystal playable throughout the game, her and Fox play differently. They unlock areas for each other, and sometimes crossover/overlap. Split screen co-op doable, as fully fluid version of single player, where swapping and overlapping will be slightly clunky.Andross dead for good, Drakor the main villain, later revealed, after defeat of Scales. A well written subversion of Scales being villain, but he will have a real boss fight, and not the BS that happened at the end of the original.Art direction will not pick up from 2026, but be faithfully remastered sound and visuals of original.Krystal gets to be fully explored as a character. Fox gets to develop as a character.Falco will have his own space shooter segments, of pursuing Drakor through the system after an initial stage of on-foot sabotaging Drakor's forces elsewhere in the system, and reunite with Star Fox at the game's climax.On Sauria,, Fox and Krystal get gameplay that is classic Zelda/DP inspired, meshed with their combat gameplay. Better puzzles and dungeons than original, a mostly reimagined game.Falco segments will be arcade focused.Rich cutscenes to enhance storytelling but not detract from gameplay.Krystal is an underrated and underrated character, whose sex appeal is overblown, while her actual aesthetics are missed like a forest for the trees. Excellent skeleton with realistic meat and fat proportions tall with excellent posture. Imamura and the 3d artists' best.Her characterization gets unfairly glossed over too.Lastly, I'd probably shoehorn Miyu and Faye into Star Fox, and find a way to make the rest of the team meaningful.I'd probably have Falco with his buddies from the manga as well. I do love rat bro.
Imagine what krystal looks like with the realistic animal design they are doingdo you really want that
>>739217110…maybe
>>739216007I think they're going to bite the bullet and bring Krystal and Sauria back, but that future game won't play anything like Adventures
>>739216843>I said that the vid is in-line with 64 version.No you didn't. You said>It's uncanny, but more importantly the characterization is spot on.And then I pointed out that it's not accurate to Command, the game where she gets the most screen time and dialogue. And then you tried to discredit Command, to which I asked how Command fucked up Katt. And *now* you insist you only mean 64 and Zero.Even then, no. 64 Katt isn't like this. She flirts with Falco and a bit with Fox, but that's not her entire character. It's superficially similar in that it references lines from 64, but the actual writing here (Ooooh~ BEAUTY~ I'll give you a kissy and a fucky if you back our Patreon ;3) is Star Fox Zero Katt. The manga and Command are nothing like this at all and 64 isn't much like it either. Saying this is in character is like saying Slippy is OoC in Assault but if he said "Fox! Help me!" twice and then asked for your donations he's suddenly in character. Just dumb pandering flanderized nonsense.
>>739217110Absolutely.It's either going to be weirdly hot and piss everyone off of pug ugly and piss everyone else off.
>>739213375I also watched it last week for the first timeOverrated shit, and the guy took 10 years to animate one hour of content, what the fuck.
>>739217285But would Miyamoto allow her to not be hot?Also is he a closet furry?
>>739217406>ClosetedNo
>>739184818Ask Russia! Seriously though ask Russia. Wagner mercenaries were a major part of their overall military strategy in Ukraine until they went rogue.
>>739216031The author is gay? I saw no gay shit in ep1, I guess Im autistic.
>>739217110Yes I do want a realistic blue fox wife
>>739213226>g-diffuser is relatively new tech>limbs were cut off while training to fly with old shipsStill makes sense to me
>>739184818Because real militaries do.Because once again they were caught with their pants down and their military was devastated.
Reminder that G diffusers are canonically an Fzero character's inventionhttps://mutecity.org/wiki/Jody_Summer
>>739193518The Lylat government is a Junta. Would a modern liberal or baby boomer call him a dictator? Yes
>>739215336>Star Fox, you have two choices here>Go to our system's sun and destroy the bioweapon Andross has built there>or go to this water planet at the edge of the system and blow up a giant clam
>>739217406>Also is he a closet furry?No, he's an open retard.
>>739199850He wears a motherfucking trucker's cap.He's the motherfucking team mechanic.Look, I'm sorry, bro. But everyone with a brain can fucking GET the instant visual implication. You're just an idiot.
>>739217937what was the sun bioweapon going to do?was it going to blow up the sun?
Andross boasts that he controls the galaxy. Would that imply the inhabitants of Lylat can actually leave the system and travel the rest of the universe?
>>739199850>just use stock weapons and shitthe dumb vegeta scouter they wear are an invention of Slippy'shttps://youtu.be/wA2-0nTxaGg?t=140
>>739215804I didn't like that he got killed by some random ships, he should have fought Andross
>>739218035id always assumed warp zones would plausibly lead to other solar systems but are too unreliable to use as like, logistic routes.
>>739217937Solar isn't their sun>That's retarded!Yeah.Yeah...
Guys, I can't tell what this person's job is supposed to be, can anyone tell me what his job is supposed to be? Nothing about what he's wearing can visually define anything about this person.
>>739199049>>739199896N...no. He's very explicitly based around being a pheasant. Specifically, the rare pheasant that familiar to Japanese people, which lives in Vietnam, call and Edwards' Pheasant.Like, the artist outright admits it.
>>739218272That's an actor.You can tell by his vacant, soulless stare.
>>739217694wtf Slippy is a white woman?
>>739218408Me when I nut and she don't stop suckin.
>>739218479Jody's summer invented them in FzeroNo one invented it in starfox they stole it
>>739218153Binary systems exist. Some systems have more than three stars even.Yes our system is a pathetic beta cuck yellow dwarf star
>>739218531Jody's father*
>>739218549Doesn't matter, Lylat is also a cuck system like ours, Solar isn't a star, it's a fucked up planet.
>>739218591>M-class red dwarf star>planethmm
>>739218531>Everyone wonders "Who is this weird human woman from the Star Fox 2 gigaleak?"The answer has been staring us in the face all along.
>>739218035Sector X is like Area 51 IRL. I think warp tech is prototype stuff, since everyone (even Bill) talks about opening a gate, but not really knowing it's a warp until Falco says it "looks" like one.
>>739218645Yeah I know it's stupid, but that's the lore.
>>739218153what the fuck
>>739218720No, a dwarf star is not a planet. Solar is a star.
>>739218720can you elaborate or does the game just call all levels "planets"
is this canon
>>739217229I posted the vid, in comparison as a contrast to 2026, with 64 in mind. I say characterization is spot on, with only 64 in mind. Forgive me for not specifying such in that reply you quoted. I haven't played command in two decades. I don't recall what Katt is like in that game, I presume from your posts that 64 Katt isn't in any way resurfaced in Command's version, and that command Katt is it's own separate character.I regard the dumb flanderizing panderized nonsense as a more faithful recreation of 64 Katt, than 2026, which at this point appears to be an an entirely new character sharing name, apparent species, and inverted fur color scheme.If I had been exact in my language, and actually stated my intended comparison/contrast, I have to wonder if you still would have come in with how the vid isn't congruent with other Command's version of the character.My original reply was going to be "she's uncanny"Would this back and forth be going on if that's all the reply was? I think Fox and Krystal were ruined. I might have a different opinion on most characters being flanderized if I ever replay it. I'm not sure how my opinion about Command implied for you that Katt is ruined when in that post I didn't name any characters to begin with.I might be overly and unfairly harsh towards Command, because it was the last time Nintendo did anything with that continuity of games, and the series didn:t resurge until the 3ds remaster, and then the series went dormant again for another half decade where it got rebooted again.In my youth I wanted, and still want for the 64 continuity to have continued, rather than cease on what I regard as a deeply sour note on Command. I perceive that Nintendo gave up on the series with that game, because I regard as not taking itself seriously as a story, and the lack of any further entries into that continuity reinforces my view that Nintendo gave up on the series altogether until 2011.
>>739184818If mercs die you don't have to pay themIf your soldiers die you still have to pay them and pensions to their families until they fucking die unless you pretend they deserted
>>739218785He thinks Command is canon. Ignore him.
>>739218767They've called it both, but 64 is adamant it's a planet.>>739218785"The entire surface of Solar is covered with molten magma. Scientists are still uncertain as to why the planet never cooled from its original formation and remains in this "genesis" state. Some say that its position, directly in the center of the Sector X-Y-Z Triangle, may be the cause."It's an entire planet of magma, not a star.Yes, it's retarded.
>>739209564It is a gift from your mom
>>739212350Four Arwings can win an entire war singlehandedly. They're the equivalent of super robots being over-the-top superheroes. Rogue Squad is more akin to real robots, realistic weapons of war, where one fighter can't take on an entire army by itself.
>>739218918>Information from Star Fox 64 isn't canon because Command exists or something.Uh huh?
>>739218824>andross couldve been a liberator and had planets fight for him for free>sides with even more evil scientists who will just betray himwhat a retard.
>>739218978>>Information from Star Fox 64Says it's a star
>>739218930>“Lylat Datalink; One cool hot spot pg 75With a surface temperature in excess of 3,500 degrees Kelvin, Solar is the undisputed hot spot in the Lylat System. When measured against other stars in the system, however, Solar looks downright frigid. Solar is a red M-Class dwarf, one of the coldest stars in the universe. In contrast, Solar's antithesis, a B-Class blue star, has a searing temperature of 25,000 degrees Kelvin and a life expectancy of a couple billion years. Luckily, M-Class stars burn the slowest and last the longest. Scentists predict that Solar will keep shining in the Lylat System for 100 billion years or more.”whyd they go to so much effort to jsutify the arwings flying there, who gave a fuck just call it their star. why does their system have multiple stars that ARENT solar.
>>739218006reproduce and send out lavos eggs to other planetsprobably
>>739219109It's very stupid. I don't know why they say it's both.
>We need your help, Luminous Spheroid of Plasma Held Together by Self-gravity Vulpes! Andross has declared armed hostilities!
>>739219109>why does their system have multiple starsIt's cool
>>739185602Slippy in 64>brave, but naive due to his lack of combat experienceSlippy '26>self absorbed in gadgetry to the point of danger, barely thanks Fox for saving his assIt's almost like nu-Slippy is gonna go after Spyborg in Sector X because he wants to take a closer look at the technology, not because he wants to help destroy it.
>>739219109>why does their system have multiple stars that ARENT solar.Lylat is the primary star of the Lylat System. Solar is a secondary star. It's a binary star system.
>>739219175kekIts called LYLATwars not STARwars for a reason kids
>>739216952Not for Long
>>739219278That's also why the team is called Lylat Fox.
>>739219237>It's a binary star system.>With a surface temperature in excess of 3,500 degrees Kelvin, Solar is the undisputed hot spot in the Lylat System. When measured against other stars in the system, however, Solar looks downright frigid.>other stars>stars3+ including solar
there's several other planets and stars in the system we don't see, Fox's own homeworld of Papetroon is there somewhere
>>739184818>Why exactly does he rely on mercenaries for essential military operations?Political loop holes.
>corneria the most populous and lived in planet>surrounded by asteroid belts>closest planet is fortuna/fichina with just snow and NOTHING on it>macbeth has entire society>aquas has all the frog fucks>fichina nothinglet it blow up.
>>739219325I assume by "other stars in the system" they mean other stars local to their arm of their galaxy and it's just poor phrasing. But it's a known fact that Lylat is a giant blue star and the namesake of the Lylat System. They even show it on the map in Star Fox 2. The recent Star Fox Direct also calls Solar the Lylat System's second star.
>>739219374>hunchback chud lives on pepe troonyoure joking.
What is the JP script for 64?
a what
>>739219504pretty much the same as NA
>>739219531DUMBLEDANG IT BOBBY
>>739219464they call it the lylat system the first words in the game :(but I know, they clearly mean zone. But it means its impossible to use any one quote as evidence.
>>739219109>why does their system have multiple stars that ARENT solarwhy not?
>>739219649being a trinary system is down right mary sue territory.
>>739219504Minor differences, mostly, and some characters are consistent across games in Japan where the aren't in English. The 26 script so far is closer to JP, with stuff like Falco more overtly blowing off checking his G-Diffuser and Slippy being less whiny. Same for Assault. Command is the only one with big changes, and that's mostly stuff related to Krystal.
Is lylat system supposed to be a star system, a section of space, or an small galaxy?
>>739219531It's so maddening how much better the Star Fox Adventures: Dinosaur Planet build is than the final game.
>>739213564>You saw what was on the other side of the hole, and they know we're here!https://youtu.be/ov4gXXEFIiU?si=ThxZcqdHbg35CHfK&t=170
>>739219724its one star system with too many stars in it.
>>739219724An excellent question that demands a thorough answer.
>>739219691And this is assuming we're saying the entirety of lylat is one single solar/star system and not a few bundled as a subsector
>>739219531She is so damn cute
>Western game talks about non binary>/v/ throws a shitfit>Nintendo game talks about non binary>Excited, civil discussion
>>739219531A BAH BUHY BOH ABF BAF BAFOMDAD????
>>739219691Yeah sci-fy settings should all be boring, generic carbon copies of Sol
>>739219865bravothis is one of the funniest threads in months.
>>739219865what?
>>739212350Are those fighter pilots all wearing G-Suits?
>>739220108Lylat is a non-binary (because it's a trinary) solar system
>>739220108Nevermind Im low IQ and didnt get it right away
>>739184818Because it seems like Andross caught the Cornellian Defense Force completely by surprise with the attempt to divide any major force they had from each other..The capital is under direct siege, a sizable chunk of their space force is tied up in a massive battle one sector over, and their seemingly frontline base in the center of the system is isn't doing much better, basically holding out with like three wings of starfighters.Really, Andross' blitz across the Lylat system was a bit of a masterclass in military strategy. He managed to isolate CDF's assets from each other and began grinding them to oblivion and had its capital on the edge of collapse before Star Fox team went full Ace Combat protag on them.Honestly not bad for a monkey scientist with no seemingly prior experience with military strategy.
>>739208972>Falco is a falcon (he’s a pheasant>Slippy is a frog (he’s a toad)>peppy is a rabbit (he’s a hare)What’s wrong with Fox? Literally everyone else is wrong.
>>739216007Remaking Star Fox 2 while improving and extending it.Alternatively, a game with on-foot missions but not Zelda shit like Adventure, and without Krystal.
>>739220537they tried that it was star fox zero everyone hated it.
>>739220394Fox is a chihuahua/shiba mix
>>739220649Everyone hated the gimmicky and terrible controls. If it had a traditional control scheme everyone would have loved it. Literally everyone I knew was so excited for a new Star Fox game until they saw how the controls worked.
>>739220858they are retarded casuals unable to learn games thats why games are so shit now everything is standard and boring
>>739220959No, the controls are legitimately awful.
>>739220858without the controls it really had nothing going for it.I happened to almost like the game, and found the controls usable for the second half of my playtime, but the games levels are so padded or recycled its actually fucked up.
>>739220993>so padded or recycled its actually fucked upThat's platinum for you
>>739220959Bust up your Wii U and enjoy that shit alone then, nobody's going go stop you.
>>739216007Assault 2 with diverging paths.'oved on foot'oved arena missions
I thought the gyro stuff on rails was fine, it was the funky lock-on and making you use gyro with cockpit view that sucked.
i hate adventure
>>739212282>>739211725pretty sure Andross fucked up Zoness and people didn't realize until later. If he did it before expulsion or not, I do not know.
Why did they have mercenaries and starship and weapons factories before andross.who were they killing.
>>739184924Racist
>>739220858>If it had a traditional control scheme everyone would have loved it.Having really shit levels and boring character interactions is why nobody ever talks about it. It's boring.
>>739221602Play Dinosaur Planet then, stupid.
>>739221767we can assume war and strife have occurred in the history of the Lylat system same as ours
Fuck all this talk is actually making me want to try playing Starfox. Which version of the one they keep remaking is the best one for a first play? I think I actually have the wii u one somewhere, if that's worth digging up. You guys think I should just wait and start with the switch remake or play one of the earlier ones?
>>739221908Just pick a game and play it. All of them except Adventures are 2 hours max for a playthrough. If you don't vibe, try a different one. You can go through the whole series in a week.
>>739221908Download a rom of SF64, get the starship recompile, play it on PC
>>739221908Play Starfox 64. Either through an emulator or the recompilationhttps://github.com/sonicdcer/Starfox64Recomp
>>739222037Been playing this a lot recently and it got me back into SF64 for the first time in decades but I notice there's a mod option, does the game actually have mods? What kind?
>>739222347There's a few, although I think all of them are for the older starship decomp since that one is older https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a-h5I2a6Ck
>>739222347Almost nothing because nobody cares.But as of a few days ago some mad lad started porting every ship in the entire series.
>>739222548Including the shoguns?
>>739222592No.They put in SNES ships, Wolfens, and most of the Command ships. Now he's on the 64 3D.
>>739222629So much wasted effort then
>>739209564Prayer beads.
>>739197941Star Vixen
don't worry sir, Andross won't have his way with me!
>>739184818Will she get ever get her chance?
>>739223048G O O D L U C K
>>739223079hearing the raw version of good luck was weird
>>739199440Still would
>>739223068She's Bill now, chud
>>739210642Never do Drugs
>>739210642Imagine the looseness.
>>739223141>Miyu became Katt>Fay became BillI don't like realizing this.
>>739198243>LESS fuckable.
>>739195716The joke started from the moment he was created>I also heard that General Pepper was derived from Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.>That’s right. I’ve always loved The Beatles, and whenever I think of military uniforms, I immediately think of Sergeant Pepper
>>739223068Maybe in a DLC?
>>739198243they dont even bring up when they changed her entire fur colour in the other game because theyre just culture war tourists.
>Your own military sucks ass so much you have to rely on a ragtag group of mercenaries What other works of fiction does this?
>>739223593metal slug
>>739223593Project WingmanArmored Core
>>739184818Time to learn some history, kiddo.
>>739223580>they dont even bring up when they changed her entire fur colour in the other game because theyre just culture war tourists.Can't speak for others, but I don't bring it up because I said the same thing back then as I do now. I don't like the Command design, just like how I don't like her 2026 design. Like the Command design, I'll probably get used to it later, but still find it to be worse than the old one.
>>739223381It's why they fly with you in the ending.Hopefully a future game will have Krystal and Katt as their quasi replacements.
>>739223381Nu Katt is just sliding her more Miyu.
We need 2001 Shigeru "Make Krystal's tits bigger" Miyamoto back, bros.
SOMETHIN'S NOT RIGHT 'ERE....WHO TOOK THIS BASE OUT?
>>739223593This is the entire plot of Ace Combat Zero. >Belka invades Ustio>Belka invades Osea>Belka invades Kingdom of Sapin>Belka destroyed everything>its completely fucking over>Its time to hire Solo Wing Pixy and Demon Lord Cipher>Solo all the Belkan Knights, who are traded in horses for planes>destroy three super weapons>single-handedly end a world war
>>739224095shouldve invested in an anti aircraft gun
>>739200367Bill's team is proof why Pepper needed to hire Star Fox. This and their fleet getting fucked up at Sector Y by the not gundams.
>>739224163Doesn't work on them. You take them out in nearly every mission.
i'll never play simshit
i loved this boss track and i hope the remake doesn't butcher ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLdeWCLb2i4
Laugh all you want, it's clear 30 years later that SF64 has has deep lore and intricate detailed world building for a cartoon furry Nintendo shootan game.
>>739224496Did you get lost
>>739223580It doesn't tend to get discussed because 2026 is a remake of 64 and not Command. It's fundamentally not in view when criticizing 2026 Katt, who will obviously get compared to 64.
Why didn't they just kill Andross when they had the chance if he was capable of creating this kind of solar system destroying shit
>>739224708IF you would read the lore it's because General Pepper was too kind-hearted and merely exiled him instead of having him fucking shot.
>>739224639Indeed. The story from playing the stages itself is phenomenal for the time. Impress for an arcade style game.
Considering that Peppy is named as Pepper's successor in Command there's gotta be some kind of past official affiliation with the Cornerian military. I can't imagine Pepper would hire just ANY mercenary outfit.
>>739224890I mean who else was gonna take over? Bill?
>>739224890Pepper and Peppy are butt buddies, Peppy canonically carries around a lock of Pepper's hair according to the Star Fox Zero's anime thing
>>739224950You're telling me in an entire planetary militia there's not at least one person within that militia who stands as second in command?
>>739224890James and Peppy were in the armed forces alongside pepper
>>739225057Whoever they may or may not have been Nintendo has never deemed them important enough to ever show them. So for all intents and purposes, no.
>>739224163AA guns are for warding off shitty drones and the occasional helicopter. Fighters have been able to SEAD them since the 80s.
>peppy gets appointed as the next head of Junta because he is a closeted partner of the current ruler>Where Andross won his crown as ruler by fires and warsAre we the baddies?
>>739210642So any predictions on how the body horror of fighting andross's brain and eyeballs will pan out given they're going for hyper realism?Feels like depending on how it's done, it could bump the game's rating up to teen.
>>739225634andross is unquestionably a bad guy
>>739184818Taxpayer money embezzlement?
>>739225761In Command he fixed Venom’s toxic oceans.
>>739225862while simultaneously polluting aquas' and fucking up zoness' beyond reparation.
>>739225960We don’t know if that was Andross.
>>739225997Unless we think Pepper is a liar he outright says "What a place to battle! Andross has turned Zoness into a toxic waste dump and is rumored to be building a supply base there! "
>Andross' mad science shit (which we've seen multiple examples of in game) was said to have nearly destroyed Corneria>BUT WAIT MAYBE GENERAL PEPPER WAS THE BAD GUY ALL ALONGWhy do faggots always try to invert who the good and buy guys are when it's blatantly fucking obvious
>>739226091General Pepper and Corneria (canines -> white people) are obviously the villians while the monkeys (NIGGERS) and reptilians (JEWS) that devastate planets are the good guys
>>739199440That's not what cat teeth look like
>>739210642>Design a crackwhore in a kid's gameThat's hilarious
>>739226167I know you wanted to go with the obvious joke, but it's really the other way around.
>>739226296Not really. Andross is Yakub while the rest of the monkeys are overly aggressive, low IQ idiots with no foresight or strategy beyond brute force. The reptiles sit on the back line with a wunderwaffe paid for by Cornerian tax dollars
>>739225634Andross was originally part of it which is why he even had so many men who follow him. It wasn't strictly monkeys since wolf and that alt route alligator boss is doing shit for him.
>>739225634We can't be the baddies when Pepper didn't start the war and take over many planets just to try and take over one planet and decides, "If I can't have it, no one can," as seen in both SF2 and Adventures, where his return marks a possible end for Corneria or Lylat after his defeat in the Lylat Wars.>>739225862I'll give Command some credit for trying to add more to Andross and Gen Pepper's friendship and to Andross as a person, but it's still pretty clear he's a bad guy whose ego and love of making bioweapons are a threat to the Lylat System at large.
>>739210102It's probably more fascist. If you do what the state likes it lets you keep on keeping on.
>Venom is a harsh frontier world on the periphery of the Lylat system. The atmosphere is almost unbreathable, and the rocky surface is broken by rough cliffs and chasms. Because of its distance from Corneria, it has never been fully explored.>Can travel other star system like the Apo's>But Venom next to the our sun is too far awayWut?
>>739213375I think it rules, every bit of it is so well done.
Andross dindunuffin, he a good boy liberating worlds from the tyranny of Corneria.In all seriousness I'll take benevolent dictator Pepper over cruel and vengeance-maddened emperor Andross any day, as cool as he is otherwise. Pepper was cool in the first game, I miss the shades somewhat.>>739226181She looks like shit. And it's less shit than 2026. I do appreciate you taking your time to showcase how uncanny the model is. I personally think watching the vid is sufficient but in any event I'm so perplexed by 2026 Katt I'll settle for comically bad looking art style Katt as a salve to my consciousness.
>>739226521they dont want to pay arwings to explore a planet, and their research scientists cant just hop over and look around.
I forgot my pic. Sure are a lot of skulls on Andross' stuff in 2.
>>739223048ANDROSS' ENEMY IS MY ENEMY!
>>739184818According to SF64's supplemental material, the Arwings were so advanced and few in number that he couldn't afford to have them be used by anybody but the absolute best pilots in the system. It just happened that those guys were mercs.
>>739226653And in 64 every ship of his has like 15 skulls on it
>>739209564They're actually a string of grenades. No, really.
>>739210642>>739226243Is that the only pic of Katt in a larger format? From what I read it's a AI blowup and hallucinated on a few details such as her ear piercing is meant to be a hoop ring but got made into a flat metal piece.
>>739224163lmao flak guns ain't shit to an interceptor that's launching 80 missiles from beyond visual range
>>739226521>venom is unexplored>but venom is the home world of one the main races in the lylat system>it's toxic and uninhabitable>but it was once nice>although it was always toxic but Andross fixed it>well actually he never fixed itVenom is a quantum planet
>>739226521we've built a semi-permanent station in space but still haven't catalogued every rainforest or aquatic trench completelythink of it this way, who the fuck is paying money for an expedition to map and sample all of a toxic shithole?
>the lore is that Fox bought the Great Fox on credit is using the money from.the war to pay it offKek who has capital ships just laying around to sell? The Lylat system is an ancap fever dream.
>>739226047>listening to not only a dog, but a closeted gay dog in an interspecies relationship
>>739226924James (not Fox) had it custom ordered and built with only an 80 year mortgage (Fox has at least 70 years left on it to pay off)
>>739226924it was custom built by Space Dynamics LLC with an 80 year payment
>>739226924>>739226987no wonder pigma was so money obsessed
>>739226924Either they sell it with hopes of getting repaid from the premier merc group or it gets commandeered by one military or the other, might as well bet on something that has a hope of paying backeither Star Fox wins and pays back the lease, fox wins but not hard enough and you get to repo his arwings, or fox loses in which case some ape already bombed you to death with some bioweapon
>>739227019>give star fox a loan>pay them to save you>they pay the loan>have the same moneybravo
>>739227019But who are the bankers?
>>739227118Shrews.
>>739227118Vultures
>what wars were James fighting or hoping to fight to pay for the Great Fox>How can mercenaries get pay when there was no merc work before Lylat wars in the System>Where are all those one off non local specie people from>Etc EtcIt is kind of hard to have a semi logical lore in world building when the games kept rehash the same conflict and never expand beyond Lylat system besides assault. At least in Metroid you have the "Galactic Federation" which implied like galaxy worth of races and planets
>>739227218only HE has the brains to rule lylat.
>>739227218We can assume some kind of armed conflicts have happened in the Lylat system for the fact that weapons, warships, etc even exist
>>739224163This is Ace Combat were talking about. space ion cannons firing from space with awacs telling the protagonists to weave through the shots"Oh yeah just weave through the shots what are you nuts!?"
>>739227218Lore states many of the species come from different galaxies such as Fox from planet Palpatoon which we never see on the star map and Corneria is the capital home world they all obey. The games already show they have portal technology, they just need to know the coordinates to open a gate. Also merc work doesn't always mean fighting in wars, mercs can be hired for defense work, transportation oversight and coverage, even scouting new locations and areas for contractors. Though I'm guessing after the Lylat wars Pepper doubled down on fleet security to protect the hard won peace which had the adverse effect of killing a lot defense jobs that could have popped up for Star Fox. A 80 year loan is nuts though, James should have known that that would have been transferred to his son later on.
>>739227638Papetroon is within Lylat, we just don't see it
>>739219449A cutscene snippet from the reveal trailer indicates that Fichina's base is considered the system's gateway.
>>739227124>Fox is behind on his payments again
>>739196503She looks like a meth addict. And those aren’t very great for a mercenary
>>739216007Star fox 2 baby. And then 3, ignore the cluster fuck like adventures and assault
>>739215804I loved it.
>>739228343>she whores herself out for real money because you can't buy drugs with credits
>>739205661Yeah the opening mission is pretty great but nothing after really quite lives up to it, very few on-rail flying missions and none of them are as good. It bummed me out, though I like the ground missions but I just wanted more cinematic on-rail shooting, a little like Kid Icarus Uprising.
>>739226521Toxic atmosphere and being far away probably makes it not worth it given that there's plenty of habitable planets in the Lylat system.Also, not a lore expert, but interstellar travel is *possible* in the SF universe but not common. Warps can only be done between certain points and might be at the mercy at whatever the universe already has in place, like a wormhole. Apparently, according to early SF lore the home planet of Fox, Papetoon, is NOT in the Lylat system but IS under Cornerian sphere of influence and is far away. I.e. warp is possible between Lylat and that system, but warp to points inbetween is probably not possible without making a dedicated warp gate, ala something they did in Assault.
Wasn't KIU supposed to be an SF game, then Samurai decided to make it into a KI game because he thought that fit the game better?
>>739229308It could be a Star Fox game for sure, though I still feel like it worked well with the Kid Icarus theme.Wouldn't mind if they just rehashed KIU with a Star Fox skin but that will ever happen.
>>739224208Uhm, AKSUALLY they're not zakus
>>739222951That artwork gives me a mid-late 90s vibe.
>>739196843The Americans didn’t wanted a big army until ww2. The French couldn’t have an army until the people accepted to pay taxes. The soviets and Russians have a weak military because they fear coup. There’s a lot of reason why people would just hire mercenaries over standing competent armies
>>739198243Yes, we don’t like bad chara design. We also don’t like concord for that matter
