i am in spirit japanese
zessha katajinenai kurisutegomeng

Would pick the left one if it fits the character I have in mind.

long black straight hair is superior.
serious anime girls are superior.

>>739189449
I like small blonde girls.

>>739189449
she's smiling

>>739189449
Liking blondes is the normalfag opinion

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>>739189449
For shogun sure, but I always liked the nonfang war magus more

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>>739189449
I used this one though (he was my self-insert)

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ENTER

fang

>>739189449
I pick the left everytime, Asian women mog white "women"

>>739190749
You're an annoying troon who thinks he always has to be counterculture and that's why no one likes you.

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>>739189449
Which one can I mod into having bigger tits? That's all that matters.

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I'm ambivalent in that I enjoy aryan palette swaps but they somehow feel wrong to use.

>>739192935
You disgust me

>>739189449
I don't. I pick left every time.
My blonde adventurer is PRINCESS

>>739192823
lol no

Nothing more brown coded than liking blonde women

>>739194325
Exactly

>>739189449
The one on the right doesn't look like she hates being here.

>>739194072
Blonde Melee = Britomart
Blonde Magic = Erzsebet
just that simple

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>>739193272
I dislike palettes that changes hair color. They ruined Shulk in Ultimate because of that, among many other things.
I usually dislike non-red haired Blanka too.

>>739189449
Left OWES me sex

>>739189449
>cute boy in high spirits
>frowning brat
Gee, I wonder

>>739194889
Both are girls...

Played and finished 4 but dropped 5 mid game
I just couldn't tolerate buying, crafting (and upgrading? can't remember) gear every dungeon level for the whole party.

Do the old ones also have crafting?
I hated dungeon delving to get that single mat I was missing only to replace that weapon a couple hours later.

Also, I ended up hating both my rover (shit damage but loved her passive healing and debuffs) and harbringer (status ailments suck dick while exploring and it didn't feel like he pull his wheight vs FOEs) yet didn't bother swapping them out so maybe its on me.
The rest of the party were:
Pugilist build around one-two punch for funsies but used something with recoild damage vs mobs, fucking one-two always procd on dying enemies.
1 kat Masurao, MVP
Shaman, fun healer and buffer. Another MVP

>>739195725
in the first game there are rare drops for certain items and you need to get them again if you want to buy the item again i have not gotten around to 2 and 3 but i assume it is the same

>>739195872
yes, that is correct. i have only played 1,2,3 and am struggling to imagine an EO game that doesn't revolve around grinding

Reminder that they aren't resting their hand on their hip.

>>739195872
I don't recall needing to refarm items for anything in 1-3, maybe a special boss drop for something that completely skips a chunk of the progression curve but if so that's an exception rather than the rule.

>>739196246
Oh yeah.
Shame, dual wielding is so much lamer.

>>739195725
5 is good. My issue with it is that the floors were too formulaic. Every floor is a twisting hallway followed by a FOE puzzle followed by a twisting hallway followed by a shortcut followed by a FOE puzzle followed by a twisting hallway

>>739196262
1-3 very specifically track how much of each mat you've sold to the shop and you can't buy a weapon if you use them up. That is the case for everything you buy

>>739189449
luv me genki lolis
simple as

>>739196439
That's definitely only the case for a handful of specific items because aside from I think conditional boss drop unlocks in 3 I never saw gear go from available to unavailable after purchase and I definitely didn't grind extra materials for everything for that to be the case.

>>739196938
>>739196439
Its usually for consumables

>>739196938
that's just because every material other than the rares are so given out so freely you get more than enough from regular play unless you're a weirdo who crafts too much

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I only pick the blonde if it's teach
>>739196347
I loved 5's classes
the mastery system was a bit poorly conceived but party building after unlocking it was really fun

>>739197404
Yeah I agree with that about 5

>>739189449
I like blondes

>>739197478
You’re brown

>>739197596
Favorite Etrian Odyssey class?

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i dont like blondes desu

>>739197684
Fencer

>>739197684
EO4 pink haired dancer

>>739197831
Brown
>>739197919
White

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Oh no, my health is low! I sure hope one of my own party members doesn't attack me!

>>739197684
Princess. I slept on that class completely upon reading the description for the first time. What an absolute buffoon I was.

>>739197772
Based white chad.

>>739197684
Dancer / Nightseeker, that lil niggah procd so many chases for my landsknecht

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>>739197684
Nightseeker, favorite portrait is a tie between pink hair and alucard

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>>739197018
I dunno, I just looked up a wiki and it specifically highlights like two or three items per category that require more items than just the initial unlocks and I think I trust a wiki and my own experiences more than you guys.

>>739189449
I pick male shogun actually. I refuse to use any adult woman in my team. It'll be either male (Me), male or little girl (wife).

Wizardry is far superior as a series

>>739196347
I don't really mind that structure honestly, FOEs are Etrian's unique element after all, it's good to expand on them more instead of every game just being "oh here's the FOE that walks back and forth, here's one that chases you, uhhhh that's it i guess."
It's easy to be reductive and just say "FOE puzzle" but they're usually pretty unique and satisfying to solve. If anything I wish they didn't crank down the encounter rate to 0.0001% during these sections so managing your steps is still a factor while doing them. I also wish they didn't buff escaping from FOEs in recent entries so fucking up is actually punishing.

>>739189449
Left looks like ZetsubouSLOP. Right looks like HopeKINO.

>>739189449
blue eyes cute
blonde hair cute
its like having a shiny pokemon instead of the left, which is just a common bidoof
3% of the world has blue eyes, and far less have blue eyes blonde hair.

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>>739197684
Masurao.

>can forgo all wimpy nonsense like armor to wield more swords
>chases so hard, he chases the enemy into your team as well
>hits like a truck
>supreme floof hair

>>739198991
it's just the nature of games to get less punishing over time. except for EO2 which mostly differs from EO1 in that it punishes you deeply for doing the things you learned to do in the first game

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>>739189449
MISTA BUSHIDO

>>739197404
mastery was fucking weird
there's always one that's just straight up better and not being able to preview them when recruiting makes some classes seem really lame early on

>>739199134
The save anywhere system in the HD collection is such a frustrating thing to include for me cause it's so easy to abuse. I really hope it was just a "the games are old and hard so we did this for accessibility :)" thing and not a permanent feature in newer entries, assuming new entries even exist of course.

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>>739199091
>he
Yikes

>>739199134
The games got less punishing but the difficulty ceiling of later entries is higher. Punishment=/=difficulty after all and I'd rather more of the latter than the former.

>>739197684
Highlander, especially Nexus Highlander. Such a fantastically self synergistic class.

>>739199428
games should be both punishing and difficult. you should fear fucking up. it should make you sweat to think that if anything goes wrong the consequences will be severe.

Sell me on EO, I dont really like games where you have to make up and name a party, but as far as dungeon crawlers go I enjoyed the first several MegaTen games from MT1 on NES up to SMT if on SNES.

>>739199587
>i don't like games where [you play etrian odyssey]
you should just go play something else

>>739199587
I'm not obligated to shill for this series any more until Atlus releases a new game.

>>739195725
>status ailments suck dick while exploring
You're doing it wrong. EO is one of the few series where status effects actually matter against normal enemies.

>>739199495
my nigga. my nexus team was built around highlander (princess, arcanist, harbinger, hero). I had so much healing the moment I unlocked legion charge the game was pretty much solved

>>739199821
Poison is so unbelivably strong in almost every game even against bosses
God I fucking love poison

>>739199673
So that's the entire point of the game? There's nothing else of value beyond making up your own team? No interesting story or anything?

>>739200178
if you don't like the fundamental gameplay loop, then what does it matter if the peripheral attributes appeal to you?

>>739199821
Nah, poison is good damage but everything else sucks. Not the status ailment itself, their skills accuracy/TP cost.

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>>739200226
they had to pull it way back after they overtuned the fuck out of hexers and dark hunters in EO2

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>>739200226
>Binds are bad
>In b4 binds are not an ailment

>>739189449
Right looks genki.

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>>739197684
Dancer. AKA my wife

>>739200226
1/5/10
Wilting Miasma
Stack more Luck

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Playing 5 right now as my first EO - well not right now cuz I'm posting on 4chan
Right now my team is
>Dragoon
>Masuro
>Pugilist
>Warlock
>Herbalist
Kind of a basic bitch part but I wanted to play it safe. I just got to the golem boss and he keeps one shotting me when he explodes so I gotta figure out how to not have that happen.
Fun game though.

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>>739189449
The real question is why nobody ever chooses the red farmer.
She's literal fucking perfection.

>>739200226
t. lucklet

>>739200582
wait, that's the only one i ever pick, what is everyone else taking?

>>739200281
>buys Ariadne Threads when he has To Market
What did Farmer-san mean by this?

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>>739192283
The male gunner looks like me.

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I love the idea of creating classes and lots of characters, and building them up. EO seems like a series that I would absolutely get into.

But fuck, I highly doubt that I will enjoy the actual blobber dungeon crawling part. So conflicted about getting these games.

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>>739197684
Hero.It gets to be overtuned as its the protagonist class.

>>739200324
>harbringer
>binds
what
Pugilist is great because he deals good damage while fishing for binds.
Harbringer NEEDS status ailments to deal their damage. You spend TP to inflict status ailments and deal shit damage and spend TP again next turn to deal your damage on whatever is already suffering the status ailment. Also miasma.
Harbringer is not a well thought out class unless I was playing it wrong, but I didn't look up shit online much so maybe I was playing it wrong.

>>739200643
You're asian?

>>739200582
She's against Alice, bro. The Japanese love Alice. She never stood a chance.

>>739200636
he's buying them for me, so i don't get lost when i go in without him, good guy farmer

>>739200692
Mexican.

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>>739200659
>Troubleshooter
I'm gonna be real with you because you have good tastes
The blobbing and mapping takes some time to get used to, but it can be fun in a soothing way sort of.
If you're really on the fence just pirate one of the ones on PC or emulate one of the others.
The series is dead (Yes it is that video announcement is 8 years old its time to let it go) so a sale or two won't matter.

>>739192634
HD shogun definitely mogs both these little hoes

>>739200694
>not liking Red Riding Hood

Bunch of plebs.

>>739200178
The games post 3 (the best starting point, next to 4) have interesting classes and random encounters, alongside wandering mini boss enemies (FOEs). There's a lot of fun to be had with the well crafted gameplay, building a party, filling out their skill trees, and fighting ever stronger enemies as you explore. If that's not enough for you then you will never like the series as narrative has always been rather weak.
>>739200017
I did a solo with highlander (finished the main game) and considered doing a meme run with 5 Highlanders, using staggered force boosts to keep the party healed. The fact that Delayed Charge is ranged and that they have a solid suite of buffs makes this viable, I think.

>>739200836
The japanese have Alice autism. Please understand.

>>739197684
Necromancer. Such a well realized and amazingly fun class. Dark Hunter is a close second even if it teeters on the edge of broken or dogshit

>>739200903
dark hunter is just a fundamentally bad idea for a class, it can't be balanced, so instead it just gets to swing between the two ends of the spectrum

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I prefer legendary titles over subclassing. The system needs work though but I think it can be refined.

>played and enjoyed the EOHD games
>pick up Undernauts
>it sucks extreme ass in every single way possible
I wouldn't have thought it possible to make such a simple style of game so fucking poorly, how did they manage it?

>>739200549
>so I gotta figure out how to not have that happen.
It's a much simpler solution than you think
>>739200690
>ailments in V
Ah I see the issue. Harbinger doesn't have the highest infliction rates but as you level they'll be fairly reliable if a bit mediocre because they're line target. Herbalist is the go to for ailment infliction, you just need to make an elf/human one instead of a potato because potatoes have shit luk.

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This is the only farmer that matters.

>>739201049
>It's a much simpler solution than you think
Maybe so.
I like that he feels like a challenge at least rather than a boss you roll over.

>>739200958
You can make a greater criticism towards shutdown letting you bypass engaging with all sorts of enemy mechanics. It works wonderfully in random encounters in EOV and EO2U where there's often high priority threats that are difficult to nuke with notable vulnerabilities. In a boss context it can be unsatisfying to blaze through mechanics but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with such parties existing, if you come to the conclusion that you feel like you're cheesing the boss because you blow it up in one ailment cycle then you can always just pick a different party. Isn't that the beauty of these games? They're supposed to provide a wide variety of playstyles.

>>739200549
Anon, try to remember the basics of JRPG

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>>739201242
I'm trying I genuinely am

>>739201242
is it that rock beats scissors

>>739201035
I find that a lot of popular beloved series start getting hate by terminal contrarians calling them "babby's first", but then when you branch out into other examples of the genre you find a whole lot of absolute dog shit examples of the genre and end up gaining new appreciation for your original entry.

I will say this though, one very legit criticism of EO is the relative simplicity of the labyrinths compared to other drpgs, so those whose subjective tastes lean more towards exploration than combat understandably don't like it.

>>739200208
Making up a team doesn't sound like a gameplay loop to me, this is a dungeon crawler is it not?

>>739200851
Okay, maybe I'll give 3 a go.
I'm surprised that the FoE thing started there, I would've thought it was a thing from the beginning with how much of a big meme it is.

>>739201487
FoEs have been around from the first game

>>739201487
>I'm surprised that the FoE thing started there
Oh no, I didn't mean that. FOEs were always a staple. It's just that 1 and 2 have more simplistic combat and encounters compared to later entries. Especially 1, which is like maybe 1 step up in class complexity from early FF games.

>>739200435
>add yet another move before you can do your damage
>also, it only lasts a few turns

>>739201049
I think I was frustated by their TP costs and all the cool harbinger skills being locked behind hitting enemies already suffering a status.

>>739198139
im black

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When did EO go wrong and why was it the 3DS era?

>>739201683
Why?

>>739201717
They stopped making them around then.

>>739201717
Enemy models and voice acting are unnecessary desu

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>>739189449
I'll take the 7th Dragon samurai, thanks.

Also, the armor or outfit design is usually more significant than the hair color. When looking at the EO2 Gunners, it's not "blonde vs brunette" but rather "cute fluffy blue-and-white outfit vs megane" character.

>>739201717
The 3D models never looked as good as the sprites.

>>739201717
It didn't though. Even if you hate story modes, Untold classics were great. Nexus was a bit of a mediocre send off but honestly it's not as bad if you really think about it's strength; it's a sandbox for using a massive variety of classes for varied party compositions.

>>739201717
fencer is cute as hell and her design reminds me of sxarp

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>>739201783
There is no choice when looking at EO2 Gunners, there is only Jack Frost.

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>>739201954
my wife baptiste

>>739201776
>>739201848
Right answers
>>739201780
>>739201789
See me after class you retards
>>739201917
True

>>739199428
Atlus in general tends to do this a lot with their endgame and I don't like it at all... Instead of designing an actual grueling back and forth fight they tend to just make puzzle bosses that you need a specific team or cheese strat for.

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There will never be another Etrian Odyssey, right? I really wish I could play next game from series or something similar, preferably on PC...

>>739201740
cuz my parents are

>>739197772
same, probably because i am blond so its not exotic to me at all.

>>739202184
Sex with tsundere tank, ojou-sama, genki girl and nerdy librarian.

>>739202184
it's very good on the deck

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>>739202184
Its Etrian Odysseyover.

>>739201789
I disagree
the models look way better than the ongs and a lot of them are of incredible quality
the humanoid bosses all have 10/10 3D models and I've unironically spent an hour or so looking at them in the codex (no one actually managed to extract them from the games sadly) trying to understand their texturing
also fun fact some big enemies come with a shader that covers half of their model to mimic the really dark shadows of their original 2d counterpart and if you rotate them the shader get applied to whatever is in it since the models are always seen from the front in battle

>>739200836
Most japs are

>>739202435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_PVPyn6n8

>>739202435
>series ended before we could get a deer boss in the 1st stratum
It's not fair...

>>739202630
why the fuck do they name drop douman right near the end?

>>739201432
If I had to play Dark Spire with F.O.E.s running around, I would hang myself.

>>739202824
iirc douman seiman is two sigils from both entities combined (the star and the circle)
the sigils are just named after them

>>739203001
i forgot it meant something other than the mangaka

>>739202184
Next Stage still hasn't been officially cancelled yet so there's always a sliver of hope

>>739203126
>two more weeks, guild members!

>>739201783
>>739201954
>>739202018
I'll take the glasses girl. She made a nice team-mom character on my last Nexus playthrough to bounce bounce of cocky ranger man.

>>739203393
atlus is no stranger to ridiculous development times, so it's par the course for them, i just hope it doesn't turn out as shitty as every other game they've made that took 10 years to develop

I deserve a cute farmer wife

>>739202961
Kek I'm playing dark spire right now and I can only imagine. The navigating is lengthy and grueling but blissfully braindead, can't imagine if it had EO encounters and FOEs in that large a labyrinth.

>>739201717
having a Phantom Fencer as my main tank is a living hell.

etrian odyssey next soon guys just keep waiting

>>739189449
I pick the shogun from HD though

>>739204141
That's because they're not a tank. Like, at all. They're a nectar vacuum whose only purpose is giving a Chain Fencer two chain activations in one slot (Sylphid can give an extra chain) outside of extremely niche and inconsistent Lure quick kills on bosses.

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>>739200834
>HD portrait mogging the OGs
Many such cases.

>>739204141
Half the titles kinda suck

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>>739197684
Dragoon is the coolest tank class in any of the games I ever played

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Seems like modern AI is pretty decent at this style out of the box, nice. I've never played one of the games but I have always liked the art style

>>739205871
Based

>>739201628
What a fucking retard.
Stick to final fantasy, holding down the attack button while the characters jingle keys and belt buckles in your face is where you belong.

>>739199821
>EO is one of the few series where status effects actually matter against normal enemies.
Maybe in specific entries but the series as a whole? Fuck no.

go, my torpor curse

>>739206120
any entries at all is a feat, desu

>>739206120
In all entries ailments are effective against normal enemies, the bosses resist them a lot in eo3 though and the ailment classes in that game are more trouble than they are worth to use.

In every other game ailment classes ate broken unless you're a retard that can't read their own skillset, I'll give you that eo1 is probably the only game where hexer isn't obviously game breaking.

>>739205972
It's funny because the reality is the opposite, with the party collectively sharing a facepalm as the fencer became a red stain in the floor for the 5th time this trip.

>>739206350
i do not recall ailments working especially well in EO1. if i remember right, luck doesn't even affect them in that one, so they're especially unreliable

>>739206409
Bad

>>739206350
>and the ailment classes in that game are more trouble than they are worth to use.
Nah man you just have to go all in on Call Elephant as soon as you can after maxing the global infliction passive. I've used wildling twice and while it sucks for the first 1.5 stratums it just shits on everything after that. Both my Abyssal God kills are credited to my Wildling panic locking the boss in attack form long enough for my party to burst it down.

>>739206530
the introduction of extra attributes for your weapons also made ailments massively more viable, since you don't have to rely entirely on specific skills and jobs

>>739197684
Hexer, hexer, and also hexer

>>739194938
they are actually all boys

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>>739206725
zased

>>739192634
The cutest girl

>>739196246
I'll fucking kill you, you son of a bitch, fuck you

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>>739206409
it works fine though

>>739206809
Your a boy

>>739206120
Poison rapes EO1, Sleep rapes EO2, Sleep actually rapes EO3 random encounters too, Poison rapes EO4...

>>739206969
isn't poison only good in the EO1 remake? i thought i read that it was bugged in the original release

>>739203117
lol

>>739200958
>>739201191
I think it worked just fine for other aliment classes like Nightseeker and Necro. Dark Hunter was just their first attempt at it. I think it would have been ok if Whip had more utility during random encounters, maybe a row cleave kinda like how whips work in dragon quest or something so that their strong poison ailment would function well early on

>>739207120
Maybe it does more there, in the original it falls off around the 5th stratum but up until that point it dominates.

>>739207120
Toxin levels are bugged and don't do shit, but poison levels still give you big damage properly.

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>>739207249
yeah, this is what i was thinking of

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>>739206104
>Use a turn to increase the likelyhood of landing a status ailment up to a whopping x1.5 for 10 skill points
vs
>use same status attack twice, if it lands on your first attack there is no need to use it a second time it and it deals damage on top of that

>>739206912
Not for me it didn't, and I beat the whole game with a sword only """"dodge"""" fencer. Unless you're spamming predict with a swordless naked fencer or something you'll regularly get clipped. Sword only gets hit 2/10 times, but when almost every hit kills you it means you're using a minimum of 1 nectar per trip. Usually more. And it has such a rough progression too.
>not a dodge fencer for the first 2 stratums because there's little for you to invest in as you prepare for second name
>third stratum involves scrambling to get your build together because if you're not maxed with lightweight you're not dodging shit
>fourth stratum ends with Crystal Dragon's 9001% accuracy moves killing my phantom fencer... through blind...and accuracy debuff... Almost every turn... legit almost booted the cunt out of my party and would have were it not for my Chain Fencer
Their damage being EO1 tier (outside of Lure memes) in the 3ds era is just icing on the cake.

>>739206120
>>739206350
Ailments are pretty damn good in all the games. There are better options sometimes, but poison is always fairly consistent as an early game option at the minimum, and sometimes scales well into the later stratums. In later games the penalty for respecing isnt particularly damning either, especially since you typically do it anyway around the time you get more class options, dual spec, etc

There are some more niche status effects such as Petrify in EO5 that also work very very well and binds are usually pretty decent half the time. Also, while expensive, I found the elephant in EO3 is insanely strong during random encounters. AoE confusion and a strong meat shield works very well The one drawback to that is the cost, which is offset considering it exists in the same game as Dark Ether. Still, Ninja definitely mogs wildling when it comes to using your one extra party slot sadly

>>739207353
i mean, if you're the type to plan out really specific strategies that rely on particular synergies, a skill that removes variance is nice

I'm racist

>>739207353
Again, go back to final fantasy kiddo

>>739207493
>such as Petrify in EO5
Altar my beloved.

>>739189449
left looks more like a male, doesn't have cute fang
and the reversed armour colours just look better, primary red secondary purple in this case is better than primary black secondary red
and blonde hair works better with the red

>>739207353
You're right that the odds are better just spamming it but Wilting Miasma also decreases the likelihood of the enemy recovering from ailments/binds and it applies to everybody trying to inflict ailments or binds, parties centered around those tend to have multiple members with the ability to inflict.

>>739189449
I like my moody brunettes.

>>739201848
>Untold classics were great
U1's Claret Hollows is simply unfun

>>739206530
Agreed, but's still more work than needed to call pets and send thrm back in randoms to conserve tp rather than simply attacking, for bosses wilding is actually fine until the bosses build up resistance but eo3 is more of a unga bunga damage game - If you know what you're doing you'll likely kill the enemy while it's disabled by wilding instead of the enemy becoming immune. Buy for newbies wilding has a bit too many traps to go along with the other traps they might have in their party.
>>739207353
If you'd read your own fucking skills you'd know it makes ailments stick longer and it increases the chance of ANYONE landing ailments, so you'd spend more turns being able to attack while the boss is a blind or comatose retard like you.

>>739208706
How is U2? I never actually finished EO2, because it felt so much less fun than EO1. I thought maybe I was just burned out, but then I started up EO3 and it was a blast. It makes me wonder if Untold changes things in a way that would make me hate it less

new EO when...

>>739208706
It's at the border for me. I've come to enjoy it but I always craft parties with the intent to be strong and don't meme too hard trying to stray from the orthodoxy. I imagine that certain reasonably built but not so optimized parties probably have a very bad time.

>>739208952
U2 is a lot more tame than U1, I didn't like a lot of the Stratum floor changes except for Forbidden Wood which is just objectively better than the original but combat and skill options are way more fun

Playing 4 and the forest is a bit of a slog. I have a sword dude, shield lady, dancer qt, bpd chick, and healer(male). Party seems to do pretty good, nightseeker can shit out damage real good.

I got to the lava stratum in 3 but felt like my party kinda sucked. Whats a good comp for 3?

>>739208706
Yeah, it's designed that way.

>>739208952
nta but I liked it. I do view it as the start of overemphasis on burst damage but you have the tools to do this with a myriad of parties (we're long past the days of thinking Fafnir is op and the only class that can contend with massive HP pools). It also started the formulaic labyrinth design that >>739196347 mentioned, but I still think the combat is overall pretty damn good and party building is highly customizable due to a revamped grimoire system.

>>739209205
>Whats a good comp for 3?
G/A M/P H/N A/G + your choice

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>>739208706
hahaha
bird

>>739209205
Just take Hoplite and monk to make a comfortable backbone before choosing your dps/support. Gladiator, Arbalist, and (contrary to what the clueless parrot) Zodiac are all heavy hitters with little else to offer as support besides Zodiac's Dark Ether (best used by someone else). Wildling needs some skill to pilot correctly (really just knowing what to invest skill points into) but just completely shuts down much of the game when it comes online. Buccaneer and Ninja can simultaneously do mid damage with mid status ailments barring exceptional situations where they can become nukes. Shogun and Yggdroid are unlocks so I've never used them, and Princess can be used in place of monk, though Monk sub Princess is way better than Princess sub Monk.

>>739209205
Drop the healer for arcanist(have it sub medic), from the way you typed that you probably aren't using your fortress correctly or meaningfully so you can drop that for the spell caster or whatever other damage class catches your eye.
You might need the dancer for support until you learn to use arcanist properly at which point you can replace it also if you want.
Dancer is a bit hard to use properly but honestly if you click heal dance, attack Dance, and guard dance you'll attack least get something out of it until you start replace it or mess with the more complex skills.

>>739200793
Big if true

>>739208706
Filtered.

>>739189449
I picked left

>>739209548
Zodiac falling off due to scaling (same problem plaguing Alch in 1+2) is different from it being bad.

>>739197684
Droid/Zodiac,
they got no synergy with anyone but it's really fun to pull off in solo runs

>>739189449
Do I start with the first game or skip straight to 3?

>>739210996
either untold 1 or HD 1
or start with 4 if you're bad at drpgs

>>739211058
I was born for DRPGs so I'll start with the very first game.

>>739210996
EO1 is very fun, and I would not personally recommend skipping it

>>739211096
First game it is. I'm gonna enjoy it from start to finish.

>>739210996
3 is better than the first two games, but if you can deal with some janky old school rpg design it is best to at least try them before going to 3.
After EO1/2 no EO game expects you to grind to bypass a challenge during the main game - the games want you to think and use your options.

EO1 and 2 only seem to require some grind due to a large number of trap skills and less options in battle.

>>739189757
go men go men

>>739189449
... we don't. The latter model has a more dynamic color scheme because the left's highlights are dull grey and comes off as edgelord. Her face doesn't factor into it.

A lot of Japanese properties use blondes because that's exotic over there.

>>739210439
That's the thing, they don't fall off nearly as hard as is memed either. Sure, they can no longer obliterate things with etheric charge > limit like they do early game but they're not lagging much behind Arbalist even at late game and still especially fuck shit up when they hit weakness (they are roughly equal with Glad). I actually went out of my way to test this with ~lvl 65 characters during my post retirement grind. They're not just viable, they're strong throughout on top of having an especially busted early game.

>>739210996
I always advocate starting with 3 because I've seen many an anon bounce off the series dismissing it as generic drpg but with cutesy portraits when they start with 1, which is way more basic and way too like other lesser series in terms of combat.

>>739189449
Because I'm not a gamer

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>>739189449
I pick the left one because she's basically the ronin model from 1 and 2. She's kinda become a character I always use as a second to my main in more than just Etrian games. If I can customize a party I like having a stern warrior girl there as my partner. Still the ronin version is my favorite even if I like shogun and blonde shogun.

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>>739212484
>the ronin version is my favorite
Good taste. Tummy eroitc.

The one on the right looks significantly more likely to give me a big hug when I'm feeling down.

>>739213424
Nah, she's not intelligent enough to realise you're feeling down. Left however will give you a hug in private and kill you if you ever tell anyone.

>get to 4th stratum with meme team
>it finally becomes impossible to ignore the fact that my memes aren't working
>try to reset entire party to fix it
>still doesn't work
>ragequit
I've only beaten 2/5 of the etrians I've started because this keeps happening.

>>739213546
How memey are we talking? Suboptimal class choices or 5 beast party in 2.

>>739213546
meme teams are doable, but not blind, you have to proactively plan how you're going to handle things

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my monitor is ass so i avoid dark colors

>>739192634
One of the few times I pick a male character.

>>739189449
Some samurai LARPer makes more sense in the setting then a random Japanese person managing to wander where the party is operating.

>>739197684
Hexer
Beast
Wildling
Dancer/Arcanist
Necromancer

>>739214240
in 3 my party was princess, shogun, monk, arbalest, and buccaneer. I was getting blown up because princess isn't a real tank and frontline monk is a trap option. in 5 I was trying to use dodge nene as my only tank with 4 katana bnuuy which didn't work at all. then in nexus I was getting punished for not having anyone with binds. the only games I beat were 2 and 4 because I accidentally started with a team that did everything.

Nexus 2 with good class options when?

>>739214995
4kat with no tank can work, just needs shutdown. Hell Slash is kind of absurd.

>>739189449
holy shit I finally noticed that isn't her hand on her hip pose, she has her hand on a sword like the shadow in the back.

>>739214995
>in 3 my party was princess, shogun, monk, arbalest, and buccaneer. I was getting blown up because princess isn't a real tank and frontline monk is a trap option
Ah sounded like an interesting attempt
>in 5 I was trying to use dodge nene as my only tank
kek
>with 4 katana bnuuy which didn't work at all.
LMAO. I don't see how you could even reach the end of the third stratum without losing your mind.
>then in nexus I was getting punished for not having anyone with binds.
Don't need em, provided your damage and healing is taken care of (very easy to do).

Do you meme on purpose or do you just go with gut instinct but end up with memes every time?

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Next direct will be the direct!

>>739192634
This in EO2 HD or EO3 HD? Wizardry is making me want to have a samurai on any team I can in any game.

>>739214995
At worst you might need to move the Monk to the back and make sure you sub hoplite or zodiac somewhere.
Your princess can use rally and defend order, maybe even add a third defense buff if you can't resist the urge to go "BUT I NEED MIRE DAMAGE" and you'll pretty much never die with elemental coverage as well.
Prevent order can be swapped in over Rally or Defend order as needed.
The only meme on the team is punch monk.

>>739216689
1 and 2 have Ronin and 3 is Shogun. That portrait is a Shogun from EO3 HD specifically.

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>Starting EOV
>Deathbringer
>Barrage Puglist
>Chain Fencer
>Poisoner Botanist (Earthling because Brouni have no luck)
Should my last slot be a Rover so I can have a Therian or a Dragoon for the full Earthling meme?

>>739217895
You could also do Therian Chain Fencer and Celestrian Botanist. If you bring a Celestrian in some form for Chain Blast the party has everything it needs with 4 people so you can do whatever.

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>>739189449
I have a certain preference

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>>739218423
Ah fair, does the Elf get passable Luck? Eitherway, Dragoon or Rover?

>>739189449
Left is when you want to rape a girl into submission.

>>739219030
Yeah, Celestrian is 2nd in LUK I believe, either way I've used it and they're still consistent at applying, a Deathbringer will help even more with Wilting Miasma. Between Rover and Dragoon, Rover is going to help you more in random encounters with its good AOE and passive sustain while Dragoon will help more in FOEs and boss fights. I guess I lean Dragoon because I like Rover more in parties without other sources of healing like Shaman or Botanist. It's annoying to get by with items but doable and one of the valuable points of Rover is you can replace the functions of other support classes with them. So I lean Dragoon. You probably won't get much use out of Shield Bearer but you have plenty of shutdown to let Dragoon DPS and have Buster Cannon pop off in the Cannon path.

>>739219379
Can't poisoner botanist still heal? Or will I be that tight pressed for skill points as to where I shouldn't?

>>739219595
Right, because Poisoner Botanist can cover heals Rover isn't that attractive because Rover likes to be in parties where it replaces a class like Botanist entirely. Rover is a jack-of-all-trades class that can pick up roles a party is lacking, but your party already covers everything.

>>739189449
Etrian cunny thread

>>739219750
Whoops, misread without as with. I get what you mean though. I get thr mindset. Though I suppose it begs the question if the wolf can supplement a party without a tank as well as it can supplement a party without heals. Or alternatively, if the binds it can dish out can supplement a lockdown party

I'm playing EO2U and man do I hate all these gimmick pattern bosses.

It's not gonna get better is it

>>739220491
For better or worse, EOU2 feels like if you took the 6th stratum and made it the entire game.

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I beat the golem, lads.

>>739220325
If I remember right their Bind is decent, the main centerpiece of applying lots of those is Leading Blow, there are a few ways to do those like Chain Blast (opportunity cost of meter but very reliable) and Clinch (somewhat unreliable but efficient application), the other is good old aiming for 3 Binds at once with separate characters and Rover can contribute to that. With how powerful shutdown is in EOV, particularly because it's baked into racials, it's reasonable for many parties to run tankless and dedicated tanks are more a consideration for very squishy roles like 4 Katana Blade Dancer, which Rover can cover.

>>739220738
Huh, didn't think lockdown was that viable. My last tankless run was miserable.
Granted said party was based around my misinterpretation of how Chain skills work. So I I built a lot into a multi-hit party that didn't matter for chains.

>>739221198
Dragoon is a great class regardless and you'll find a lot of use in their tanking skills, I think Bunkers are also good all game long. Just most parties can get away without someone like a Shield Bearer, Necromancer or Fencer redirecting all the damage, provided you cycle your binds, ailments and stay healthy.

>>739189449
I've been playing through Nexus and wanted to try reliving the attacking monster of shogun in 3. I am feeling though that it's kit for that goal has been split to far and a Gunner/Shogun would just infinitely be better at it.

>>739221470
No I mean like my last party had no utility.
>Phanton Fencer
>Chain Fencer
>Hawk Rover
>Omnimancer Elementalist
>Defensive Shaman
That early game was just straight uo miserable.

>>739221673
Yeah, I ran a double Fencer party for my first run and I know the pain. Fencer early just has nothing going on besides a shitty Blind, and you have two of them. You already figured out the main problem otherwise, you have half of a straight up damage party combined with a Chain Fencer set-up who only gets multiple chains off of a few classes.

So, EO6 when?
Surely Altus has someone they can allocate to what is probably one of the lowest-budget, easiest-to-make series that they have?

>>739189449
Left was on my team when I defeated Abyssal God

>>739222248
Me too.

>>739221624
max great warrior and max front command, you can use either one of these skills until you reach level 40 - it is pretty much a waste of time to use anything else but those two skills.
Second sword and twin swallows is fine for the times were you judge that buffing someone with Great warrior or using front command is not ideal.

>>739190749
this.

I'm playing EO3 and my lore is that it's 20 years after EO1 and the Protector (only guy in the group) married all of his party members
>Protector + Landsknecht
Shogun. Edgy boy and essentially the main character.
>Protector + Medic
Hoplite. Team mom. Personally trained by her father.
Farmer. Shy boy. Gets along well with the prince.
>Protector + Alchemist
Ninja. Zodiac subclass. Silent boy.
Monk. (fire). Likes to punch.
Zodiac. (ice) Twin sisters that complete
Zodiac. (elec) each other's sentences.
>Protector + Survivalist
Prince. Overconfident shota.
Arbalist. Serious loli.
>Dark Hunter (from EO2)
Same character changed clothes and is now a Buccaneer. 34 year old Christmas Cake.
>Wildlings
Three of them. A mother with the tiger, a father with the lion and their son with the binding animals.
>Yggers
Not yet.

>>739201783
literally built for rogues

>>739214995
>in 3 my party was princess, shogun, monk, arbalest, and buccaneer
>meme
get on my level my first 3 run was 5x buccaneer and I made it to the end of the 6th stratum just fine

>>739220491
Game falls of a cliff by the 3rd stratum
it nothing but gimmick bosses with bloated health pools

>>739220491
no

>>739189449
Blonde hair and blue eyes. She's hiding in the WiFi.

>>739222321
That's what I was worried was the go, I guess you do something like sub highlander for bloodlust but I think at that point I'm just not doing what I wanted anyway so I might just retire it at 30 and change to Ronin or something.

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>>739208706
It's not so bad after 10th squad wipe.

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Himukai bros...

>>739189449
Blonde happy girls are cuter.
https://files.catbox.moe/1ojkqy.webm

So I don't know if anyone here will be able to offer any advice or suggestions but I've picked up (and put down) EO3 like ten times now and each time I get a little further. Last time I got to the second biome after beating the big stupid fish. My problem is I don't feel myself getting any stronger, party wise and I never feel like I'm not winning battles by the skin of my teeth. I experienced the same pseudo burn out with Labyrinth of Galleria too. I love the mapping process and the general dungeon crawling but I never feel like I'm making meaningful progress or making good teams.

>>739228580
The whale boss? You just need a Zodiac with etheric charge and singularity and do the hammerhead shark sea quest

>>739228580
>My problem is I don't feel myself getting any stronger, party wise and I never feel like I'm not winning battles by the skin of my teeth
That's just how the games are. You dont realize how strong you are until you refight and stomp in the earlier strata FOEs. Also you might be building suboptimally, look into that

>>739189449
you have obviously not read those doujins and seem to think people would skip on sniper + shogun pair

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Just installed and plan on playing it for the first time. Any big do nots like certain abilities just doing nothing due to code?

>>739232140
I believe they fixed most of those in HD so go wild.

>>739232140
just look up skills to check if they're worth investing into and don't be afraid to have more copies of the same class in your team if one has a lot of skills you find interesting

>>739189449
Happy blonde vs edgy shadow the hedgehog woman.

I wonder why

>>739210996
always release order, for everything, not matter what series or medium, the answer is always release order
>b-but what abou-
ALWAYS RELEASE ORDER

>>739232140
the HD version fixed all the useless bugged skills

>>739232657
>>739233302
Nice thanks. I've jumped in a few threads before because I do like dungeon crawlan but I can't go through any series one after the other. That was something I did vaguely remember though.
>>739232783
Good to know thanks, I definitely would have avoided stacking classes.

>>739232140
Get a Medic, max out Immunize, you'll thank me later

>>739220557
congrats anon
the game should be much easier going forward

Realistically, why can't Sega just let Etrian Odyssey be a nice small series? Doesn't need super fancy graphics, just let them make a nice simple dungeon crawler on the same level of the 3DS ones, release on PC and other platforms for a reasonable price and I think it'd do great.

>>739232140
I'd recommend checking a guide with values for skill points, love me my Etrians but assigning skill points blind is a massive gamble, they might be a straight 50% damage increase on an ability or a +1% chance of a secondary effect happening

>>739236474
What? More Persona? Coming right up.

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>>739189449
But I pick left all the time.

>>739236474
Why make small niche series when you can make mass appeal big money series?

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>>739189449
The smile makes her a lot cuter. but i don't pick Shogun at all. Ronin>>>>>>>>>Shogun

>>739236474
That seems to be the current mentality of SEGA, unfortunately I don't see it changing anytime soon.

>>739236562
Not home but
>announce new RPG IP
>it's just persona again but less horny

>>739236570
this is some shitty gacha, isn't it?
i just want an actual cute girl ronin game

>>739236474
to be fair, there's already more etrian games than people play and there's only so much you can iterate on, dungeon crawlers like etrian seem easy to put out but a new game probably needs more work than a modern SMT or persona design wise

>>739232140
Nope. Bugged skills are fixed and now you. Can see the full skill tree in the UI so you don't need a guide.

You want a medic with immunize and caduceus. In other EOs you have more options for healing, but in 1 you want a medic.

>>739223072
>old man comes out of retirement to fuck robo pussy
Make it happen.

>>739220540
>>739226776
>>739226834
Man.

I'm on Stratum 4 now and I'm just not having any fun. Beat the numbered ones so all I have now are the Untolds and Nexus. I hate looking up attack patterns, but also trial and erroring this shit is fucking tedious.

4chan told me this was The Best One. I can't believe they'd lie about video games.