>medieval fantasy game>everyone is literate and educated>people have perfect teeth and good hygiene>everyone is progressive and has no problem with female warriors, mages, blacksmiths or traders >the streets in villages and cities are clean >gold coins are the universal currency somehow
Yup, I love the Rance games.
We can be warriors just as good or even better than any scrote
>>739191450>fantasy game Yeah.Play kingdom come
Post Danny's mom faggots.
OPs going ghost
because fantasy has medieval aesthetics without medieval economics hence why you have entire armies wearing plate armour
Fantasy tends to be more progressive. Assumption is magic solves issues with magic thus halting progress and keeping it medieval while still progressing socially.Also Maddie Fenton hot. Good faps have been had to her.
>>739191607But she has a hairy butthole
>fantasy game>you can insult or threaten nobility and nothing happens
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>>739191450>The material conditions of a FANTASY game is the same as the ones found IRLOkay
>>739191787Perfect?
>>739191450>everyone is literate and educatedThe literacy level of the middle ages is grossly over blown. Literacy in that era was defined by whether a person could read and speak Latin, which few could. Close to or a little over half of all people could read their native language to a competent enough degree to get by in day to day situations.
>>739192117>Close to or a little over half of all people could read their native language to a competent enough degree to get by in day to day situations.and you base this revelation on what?
>>739191850This one in particular pisses me off a bit, both in vydia and when people play tabletop RPGs. Mofos have norespect for social hierarchy, and often it has little to no consequences in the game's progress.I get it that the devs/ DM just don't want to make the whole adventure come to a hault/game over just because of players messing around a bit, but I think that abusing the NPCs patience should have consequences, yes.
>>739192117>Close to or a little over half of all people could read their native language to a competent enough degree to get by in day to day situations.With what paper? For what situations would a peasant need to write? Who taught them to write?
>>739191450>Retard is mad that medieval fantasy have fantasy in it.Lmao idiot
I'm more amused by the fact medieval fantasy always avoids the subject of serfdom.
>>739191450Honestly, what the fuck was the point of literacy back then? Like what were you going to read, the Bible?
>>739193281>Like what were you going to read, the Bible?yes
>>739191450>MagesOkay, so magic exists in this setting. Sounds fine to me.
>>739193281>>739193348I can't decide if the common man learning how to read the bible was a good or a bad thing with the kind of retarded or outright dishonest interpretations I have seen from a lot of people
>>739193926Learning to read in of itself is not a bad thing. Keeping people uneducated has always been a form of control. But so has the bible and the people championing its rhetoric and values. Like anything its just how you use it. Someone can use a gun to shoot an attacking nigger or they can use a gun on a store full of random people who did nothing to them.
Don't understand how you can fap to this or fairly odd parents or God forbid tuff puppy
>>739196341KK is the exception for me.
>>739191883>open air museum>that routinely gets professional modern upkeep and painting done and is a recreationWhere's the piles of horse shit and buckets of human piss and period blood getting tossed out of windows on the left?
>>739191787
>>739191450Loud sloppy sex with Danny's mom
>>739196508I find it hilarious this game went through like 3-4 different art revisions.
whats wrong with female mages?
>>739196508Her bangs and short haircut are such a rare combination.
>>739196508
>>739196508Didnt this game get cancelled several times over?
>>739196992Pretty sure he wasnt ready for the popularity. The very first version had you watch Maddie take a shit and it got removed as soon as it got traction. Its similar to FET and the TT game.
anal with Danny's mother
>>739197171I wish Hermitmoth would draw that.
back in my day, EGS meant Ember's Ghost Squad, and not Epic Game Store
>>739197303Yeah it was doomed to fail since it was always just incestbait.
>>739197896This was drawn by Chuck Norris.
>>739197896Same but I also want to preggo her.
>>739197896You insert as her lanky manlet son and want to fuck Maddie. I want to be myself and fuck Maddie. We aren't the same.
>medieval fantasy>it's not actually medieval, but a weird melting pot of other adjacent eras that people generically think of as medieval
>>739198172>medieval>they talk about witch hunts like they weren't more common in the early modern period
>>739198172Warhammer Fantasy is a great example of this>Empire is 16th century>Bretonnia is 14th century>Norsca is generally 10th century except with plate armor for WoC
>>739198172>Victorian Era architecture in certain towns or castles you visit >armor and weapon designs from post Renaissance era>metric system >Julian calendar
>>739191450>fantasy>is fantasticalWoah
>>739198628>>metric systemthat's a good thing, how else would you know what the characters are talking about when they mention measurements? 10 chocobos is not a measurement player would understand
>>739198781They could just use freedom eagles per hamburger
>>739198781This thread is demonstrating, broadly, why fantasy worldbuilders are given the advice to not sweat it so much. A certain type of autist simply demands that all of their niche historical knowledge be respected, and everything be orderly. Anachronistic architecture being a real annoyance is proof that you should only bother doing what you think is cool.
If i wanted a realistic medieval game i'd just go outside
>>739191607Maddy fenton asshole wink.gif
>>739191450go back to to your civ games fucking grognard
>>739198067Shut up Vlad.
>>739198172>"""medieval""" fantasy>no hand cannons
>>739191595This>>739191450Watch hard to be a god. Perfect depiction of medieval times or at least how I'd like medieval times in my vidya.
>>739200671>trillionsword
>RPG has extensive class options>only five of them are viable
>>739191450>pick up fantasy game>half of the conscript army is made up of womenhow would that work population wise? I feel like doing that enough would be disastrous.
>>739201106You can't have many classes that are all viable without them being samey
>>739201260>can accept elves and dragons>can't accept that men can also get pregnantugh... bigots...
>>739191450>a fantasy universe needs to have developed in the exact same way and order the real world didpeople like you is why most fantasy settings are just "take a normal setting and slap magic onto it" as if the existence of magic alone wouldn't have a massive effect in societal development
>>739198067>implying self inserting as her son isn't hotter
>"Who's a genius? I AM, who's a genius? I AM"
>>739201450>All Tomorrows referencebased
>>739201450Sauce?
>>739191450>gold coins are the universal currency somehowSounds like Western cope to me.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidushttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperpyron
My balls need to be drained in Maddie's ass.
>>739191450Do you know what fantasy means?
>>739201851Damn Maddie has them genes...
>>739201450Thank you for your Holy wisdom Great Yakub!
>>739201923ya, it means medieval portlandia
>>739197303I always had the impression that his sister was an adult in college or something. I often forget she's like 16 or something, right?
>>739202103
>>739196341That's how I feel about The Simpsons and Family Guy even though they have tons of R34 porn.
>>739201450Holy, that's the og depiction. Funny.>outsideHbu name some? The problem with classes in modern ttrpg is that the pc are basically super heroes and this leads inevitably to bg3 style of writing/playing.
>>739201450this but only until 'archer' is renamed to 'marksman,' then you've got everything squared away
>>739191450I want to make a game where most of these are at least mentioned.>everyone is literate and educatedThere's an actual effort to educate people, but it isn't gonna be everywhere. PC for example won't be able to read and you'll need to have the witch, cleric or knight in the party to read for you. Otherwise it's all incomprehensible gibberish.>people have perfect teeth and good hygieneI don't have an ugliness fetish so that stays. But magic that cleanses the body is widespread and that's also why most diseases/poisons/venoms aren't super effective.>everyone is progressive and has no problem with female warriors, mages, blacksmiths or traders People are gonna have a problem with male warriors, mages, blacksmiths, etc.>the streets in villages and cities are clean Yep, that's gonna be a thing as well.>gold coins are the universal currency somehowThere's several different currencies, one for every country. Crowns, doubloons, silver, copper yen-like coins, special alloys for different coins, and more.
>watch documentary about medieval peasants in england>their lives are actually better than modern peoples The only bad thing about that period was how dangerous childbirth was
>>739191450>everyone is literate and educatedNot every country in medieval times was like western Europe. Byzantium and the middle east, we're doing pretty well. As well as China before the Mongols invaded.>people have perfect teeth and good hygieneSame as above and even the pagan Norse bathed daily.>everyone is progressive and has no problem with female warriors, mages, blacksmiths or tradersThere were plenty of female traders and while they weren't warriors your average commoner woman could hold her own in a fight. This isn't the Victorian era.>the streets in villages and cities are clean Again, this was true outside of western Europe and slums.>gold coins are the universal currency somehowSame as above points, it was mainly western Europe that was under economic collapse (and later China during the Mongol invasion).
>>739203196>your average commoner woman could hold her own in a fightno she couldn't, why the fuck would she
>>739191450Dunahnahnahnahnahnah… he’s a phantom
>>739202103im horny
>>739203513GUHHHHHGHGHGGGGH
>>739191450How did he do it?
>>73919173790% of the time its not even medieval. its always late high middle ages/early modern period but conspicuously guns are lacking because... ummm... w-we just cant have guns ok??? cant recall the last time i found a fantasy game with aesthetics around the 5th to 10th centuries. moreover, ive yet to barely see anything that is set in the iron age or bronze age.
>>739203849SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFGGGFFFFFFFFF
>>739202019lmao thats a great description actually. thats exactly what baldurs gate 3 felt like to me. just annoying theatre kid energy with retarded renaissance fair aesthetics. just couldnt get into it.
>>739203906closest would be Tyranny
>>739197137>taffy talesWhat did they remove?And what's FET?
>>739204194taffy tales was an incest game where the first sex scene the player sees is his mom getting blackeddev must have removed it because everyone was calling it a cuck game and telling others not to bother with it
>>739204194Four Elements Trainer and their second game 18Titans.>>739204351Fuck Maddie makes my dick way too hard.
>>739204096doesnt hit the mark for me, personally. in terms of its aesthetics, that is. another gripe i have that i want to add, is the obsession with the west and japan only. those are the only ones that are allowed. its seemingly impossible for these hacks to ever explore interesting regions of the world like iranic or central asian cultures and aesthetics at all. i feel like the only ones doing it right now are the Tamriel Rebuilt team for Morrowind in terms of fantasy gaming.
>>739191450idk what it is, it could be the most corny tolkein-copy by the book shit and I'll will just eat it up if its medeival fantasy. its like crack to me
>>739198420That's how it is IRL though...While the Romans had steel, everyone else was using iron.
>>739201760Why is this framed and written like an Isekai, lmao.
>>739203521https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A3qCIrTolo
>>739204392In Taffy Tales Season 1 or Season 2?
>>739191450You have to treat fantasy as little more than a renaissance faire in California.I'm glad more people are noticing and criticizing.
>>739204716I don't know, I never followed the game because of the cuck shit. This was way back in like 2018, so they must have changed it since
>>739204905Taffy Tales season 1 has cuck stuff implied with your sister sister dating the black guy, and him teasing your mother. Taffy Tales Season 2 isn't out yet, but the demo directly shows a teaser of her getting fucked by him in one of the rooms. The only thing he might have added were decision disclaimers that allowed you to avoid the cuck/NTR route.
>>739198628>gothic revival architecture is badass>armor designs peaked in ornementation around that time period>easier for measuring and conveying size to the audience, but definitely lacks flavor (that's why a lot of fantasy works use the imperial system even if the writers are european, its the best of both worlds)>same with metric, easier conveyance
>>739204983Maybe they never changed it. Crazy what disgusting fetishes people will subject themselves to in exchange for decent art
>>739191450People were actually intelligent back then because they weren't mix-and-match sub 80 IQ retards that make up 99% of earths population now
>bawwww why isn't this fantasy game exactly how @evroparising on x dot com says the real world medieval ages were garbagecartoonreactionimage.webpAutism is a defect.
>>739205094I think what he removed was the bestiality option. Because it's heavily implied early on in the game that your dog is horny and wanting to fuck your mother, and then it just completely disappears.>Crazy what disgusting fetishes people will subject themselves to in exchange for decent artYou think basic interracial content is "crazy disgusting"?
>>739201760this is how I look when I'm going up stairs
>>739204983>cuck stuff>your sisterYou people really just love saying shit.
>>739191564Women live in delusion.
>>739205817I said "cuck" stuff because that's what he said, retard. It's why I put "NTR" right next to it.>>739205786In the world of porn it is.
>>739204443we get it you're brown
Medieval European society WAS relatively clean and hygienic compared to how pop culture often depicts it. I can't say I know the specifics, my area is Mesoamerican, but I've seen enough posts from Medievalists to know that the idea that everything was super dirty and people didn't keep clean is incorrect, though I do know that there were some specific anti-bathing trends in certain periods and places>>739196476My understanding is that you wouldn't have waste or trash thrown out onto streets (London for example had laws against this, though the fact that there were laws against it also suggests that it was a problem at some point, I guess?), but rather into dug out pits which would get cleared out every once in a while, or sealed up and a new pile would be dug out.>>739198172>>739198267>>739203906Where do you all draw the line between medieval and early modern?>cant recall the last time i found a fantasy game with aesthetics around the 5th to 10th centuries. moreover, ive yet to barely see anything that is set in the iron age or bronze age.Can't help you with those periods but if you want Mesoamerican vidya see: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/728989049/#728990251 , note that Tlatoani is out of Early Access now>>739203196Do you have a source about Westerrn European cities of the time NOT being clean?
>>739191450>play fantasy game>wtf why isn't this exactly like historymy favorite brainlet stance on /v/ honestly
>>739201760
>>739191450So you want every Fantasy game to be Warhammer fantasy then?
>>739206302>Where do you all draw the line between medieval and early modern?the heavy use of plate armor did not occur much until the 14h and 15th centuries, which is basically towards the end of the middle ages and beginning of the modern period. i just dont understand why its so hard for these fantasy world creators to just commit to a certain degree of technological development and just stick with it.
>>739206746>the heavy use of plate armor did not occur much until the 14h and 15th centuries>i just dont understand why its so hard for these fantasy world creators to just commit to a certain degree of technological development and just stick with it.
>>739206371>play fantasy game>drool and clap and consoom product for its laziness and lack of imagination (synonym for fantasy)based
>>739206746>medieval period doesn't get plate armorI reject your delineation on the basis that it's gay and I don't like it.
>>739206918>man who wants fiction to be non-fiction crying about lack of imagination lol
>>739206851>the HEAVY usereread my post very slowly, autismanon.>pic related 1500s
>>739206746>beginning of the modern period>modern periodAre you a complete fucking idiot, or just a regular fucking idiot?
>>739207024it can be fiction without falling into literally every single lazy fantasy trope as listed by OP, anon. why are you against more imaginative and varied fantasy games?
>>739207030Maybe try and understand that not all nations have equivalent technological development, and economic means, so quit pretending like the arrival of one technology invalidates inferior technology being used, you fucking moron.
>>739207042???what is your problem here? the modern period began with the 1500s, retard.>>739207093am i talking to just a bunch of ESL's or something or is reading comprehension that bad? i never said that the arrival of technology invalidates inferior technology being used. i am just saying that the overreliance on plate armor in fantasy and it being ridiculously abundant and noncomplementary with the technological development is poor worldbuilding. idk about you guys buy im kinda tired of generic DnD catch-all aesthetics.
A third of this thread is jerking off over the cartoon bitch, and a third is just "rule of cool is bad actually".What kind of games do you whiny autists even like?
>medieval setting>every second guy is african, chinese or a bulldyke>sci-fi setting>every second guy is african, chinese or a bulldyke>fantasy setting>every second guy is african, chinese or a bulldyke>evil group appears>100% white people
>>739206851Numenera found a good reason to have everything around. Faerun and others are like full of alien tech.
>>739207220>rule of cool now means feminism and modern social norms in all medieval fantasy.please, someone think of the low dark fantasies that could be made. Save us from this Disney faggot fantasy norms.
>>739206302>WAS relatively clean and hygienic compared to how pop culture often depicts it. Yeah, the worst stereotypes are projected backwards from renaissance-early modern cities that were massively expanding, often in the form of rural migrants used to having enough natural space for it to clean itself erecting shanty towns on the outside of a cityGenerally medieval cities were relatively small, tight and insular cultures and communities, and a sort of lower elite (compared to aristocracy) with their own rights and privileges and strong civic identities, and if you are making their ward/quarter/street dirty people will know or soon work out it was you, who you are, your family, your profession, your local officials, and they would make it a problem that you degraded the neighbourhood, as you note in some cities you might have given them legal trouble or financial penalties
>>739191595This, it even has the great Malian king MusaHe was richer than anyone ever
>>739198420Deliberately so Kislev, The Empire, Estalia, Cathay, and Tilea are all 16th centuryBretonnia and Norsca have actual lore reasons for their tech stagnancyNonhumans are nonhuman so their tech is all over the place
>>739203697A lot of ectoplasm
>>739207220i like unique fantasy games that are imaginative. what about you?
>>739207529actually Kislev is 17th century
>>739207621How? Steltsy and Winged Hussars all existed in the mid 16th century
>>739201450>Yakub and Hyperborean memes are becoming a mainstay nowLudo
>>739200554god he's so hot thoughtfw no hot villainous stalker (in fiction)
>>739201760>Yamanya moving down from the steppes to genocide the Bell Beaker culture.png
>>739207085because questions like "do they bathe," "where do they shit," and "why don't they hate women like me" are just as not novel and rote as the generally sanitized version of fantasy, and I'd rather the game focus on the things that actually matter like the overarching plot or gameplay than 4channel idpol nitpicks.
>>739207220Why is it always>can't someone else do it?with you /pol/tard dumbfucks. Stop whining and make your own damn game where women are useless if you want it that bad.
>>739208116>fuck worldbuilding I need my gay sex character drama NOW!!MAKE IT STOP
>>739193926Banning people from reading the Bible outside of clergy is the same energy as covid era "don't do your own research".
>>739208262>man who lets the gays live in his head rent free projects his obsession onto otherswow who could've seen that one coming
>>739208116You can have games focus on things that matter while still getting the basic details of their setting right and using the correct historical influences in interesting ways
>>739208632>why does everyone talk like californians >why are all the positions of power held by women>why are 80% of the armed forces women >why is there a pride parade in the middle of this plague stricken elven ghettoFUCK THAT I NEED TO KNOW IF MCFAGGOT FACE IS IN LOVE WITH MUTTSANSO THE THIRD!!
>>739208140>Hurr durr everyone can't criticize, only make retarded shallow gay sex like DeltaruneSoulash 2 is already there you no-game playing troon, we just want more of that
>>739208632sure, but you can also have a game neglect minor details because they do not matter generally, I am not thinking about where random Dragon Quest villagers bathe or shit, or where the gold coin currency is minted, those details are pure minutiae and do not affect the game at all. And how much of a historical influence a game takes is entirely up to that game, Kingdom Come generally makes a good use of the historical background for it's fiction, where something like DQ would be harmed by more realistic historical settings because it's supposedly be a more whimsical light hearted take on the genre. As most fantasy games tend to go for high fantasy, they typically avoid historic parallels because the genre setting is in itself more magical and fantastical.
FFXVI had sex slaves and concubines in it.
>>739191450imagine how tense realistic chamber pot mechanics would be>walking through city>have to constantly dodge buckets of poop flung from second story windows
>>739207703winged hussars are 17th century troops
What's the best realistic excuse for ~1600s level technology but no guns?
>>739206746because they think some technologies are cool and some aren't. and since its a fictional world, they get to pick and choose and justify those decisions
>>739209572guns don't feel fantastic enough and can take away from the appeal of arrows and magicbut if you're setting is whimsical enough it doesn't matter, see runeterra for a fantasy world where everything goes.most people don't understand that high and low fantasy is a spectrum and not a hard binary
>>739207502*feminist scholar scientist engineer doctor philosopher king
>>739209784why dont they just stick to 10th century and below, then? why must they be in the 14th and 15th centuries?
>>739209784and arrows feel fantastic?
>>739209979we need more roman/greek antiquity game settings.I would say, if it wasn't for the fact that progressive modern leftist rome sounds like the most boring shit I could imagine.
>>739191450The streets in villages and cities probably were mostly clean
>>739210049or you could do the countless other interesting cultures that existed in the 10th century and below. the world is more than greco-rome and japan, after all. i would love more caucasus styled stuff
you're just asking it to become a social justice screed about the plight of the serfs, women or how evil it is noble women have no say in who they marry. just enjoy your disneyland.
>>739209979because the 14th and 15th centuries have cool thingsunless your setting is literally the real world like Ars Magicka or something I see no reason to get so autistic about it
>>739210807it's about suspension of disbelief. you've all gone way too far for many.
>>739210807>t. deeply sheltered tastelet
>>739201450>>739201760>>739206462Thank you, Yakub!
>>739210935Middle Earth had Edwardian architecture despite being a medieval setting. I think this "many" is just an autistic fewIf you can have worlds like Runeterra or Golarion and be fine, I really doubt some guy in plate armor is gonna trigger anyone on autists on /v/
>>739209784that wasn't the question
>>739203697Never underestimate the power of Dad Bod to pull baddies.Also Engineer Classism. Like they wouldn't be caught dead marrying someone who doesn't know how to work a pipe.
yo Danny Fenton he was just 14
>>739200685did i hear handcannons? i think handcannoneers need to be buffed in aoe2
Why is there so many Danny Phantom incest porn?
>medieval fantasy game>90% of the population isn't serfswtf? that's unrealistic
>medieval setting>every second guy is african, chinese or a bulldyke>sci-fi setting>every second guy is african, chinese or a bulldyke>fantasy setting>every second guy is african, chinese or a bulldyke>evil group appears>white men
>>739191450Being progressive and well-educated is a fantasy in and of itself.
>>739201450>Yakub returns in the white man's darkest hourKINO
>>739191450>the streets in villages and cities are cleanAnd they were? Why do people still believe in hollywood slop that they all lived like indians?
>>739212326>I want things to be historical >white guys end up being the bad guys>no not like that!lol
>>7391915311. An illiterate person can still write their name, read post signs etc. Literacy is being able to read contracts and the like, most people still fail.2. Depends on what the person eats.
>>739203697Height is everything
>>739213847>historical bad guys>whiteITALIANS =/= WHITESPAINYARDS =/= WHITEFRENCHIES =/= WHITEANY FLAVOR OF SLAV =/= WHITE
>>739213343Wen did India become not clean anyways?The Indus River Valley civilization had toilets and shit
>>739203697Maddie has the same exact strand of autism he does.
>>739201260>how would that work population wise?its china and they don't strangle half of the female infants at birthmales are expendable, sure but there were plenty of situation where there were surplus women too
>>739203697He had the NTR antagonist energy and stole her from Vlad. He's probably also hung like a horse.
>>739213847Yeah because asian, black, indian, and middle eastern civilizations were all saints, as we all know. They TOTALLY didn't or wouldn't do the same or worse if they could.
>>739215612the pathetic babblings of germanic barbarian mudhut dwellers is so funny
>>739201287>>739201450As long as it is fun enough despite not being optimal, it's fine. Also, having a kinda shitty class can be good for challenge runs.
>>739207331>>739212326
>>739216601isn't their population in decline even without any major wars?bad policy i'd say.
>>739210128
>>739218624yes but it mostly like in the whole industrialised world >pills>long education>late age of marriage>late age of having kidseven in times when they literarily drowned half their female infants their population grownsurplus females are all about hitting max cap population for a time/area, you hit it and then you get famine when times get worse
>>739192267>>739192554Village law was elaborate and they routinely held their own courts for cases regarding petty criminal law, civil disputes, and taxation. People had to keep records of land boundaries, debts, and geneological records to handle inheritance and avoid consanguinous marriages. Part of the reason we know that the black death was so awful is because of the many records of its devestating effects on the population and economy not just in the cities, but the thousands of villages. Were peasants as literate as the average white adult today? No. But they generally were functionally literate and knew arithmatic.
>>739193926Almost all schisms have been started by clergymen, so keeping the bible in latin would not have changed much.
>>739200685Hand cannons were uncommon and dogshit and people need to stop pretending otherwise. They were important technological stepping stones, but personal guns did not change warfare until the musket.
Stealth Danny phantom milf thread
>>739203196>There were plenty of female traders and while they weren't warriors your average commoner woman could hold her own in a fight. Not even remotely true.
>>739203196Also no, gold coins have NEVER been used for daily trade in any society ever. It has always been used exclusively for large payouts.
>>739210017Yes. The arrow is a hundred thousand years old. It is the ultimate expression of man's dominance over the beasts nature, strength projected into distance through our unique ingenuity and skill. The gun is something else entirely, a feat of engineering and design which erases the need for power and technique themselves. Consider the following:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CPuTqSGLo4Can you honestly say there would be as much gravitas if he had used a gun?
>>739191850I don't think nobility would want to fuck with a MC who raped 500 dragons before showing up to their shitty kingdom.>"Oh yeh lets just get this guy on our bad side!">"Just ignore the fact he can cockvore all the guards in 0.1seconds and erase entire bloodlines."
>>739220576A lot of them do, especially TTRPGs and the games based on them, but many games just use a universal gold currency. This isn't an issue for games not going for realism, which is most of them, I'm just disagreeing with thag guy over the concept being historically defensible.
>>739220704>>739191850its all about powerwhich make any fantasy having rigid social structure - without actual power behind it - weird and unrealistic
>>739220482i guess youre right, honestly. forgot how sublime this game was sometimes.
>>739220704Fantasy nobility would have a hundred of those guys on payroll.
>>739203697Women like strong dudes and dudes that have jobs that can pay the bills. Simple as.
>>739220704Blame 3.0/3.5 for making the player some superhero bullshit with fragile egos. Whenever I played OD&D and faggots died at level 1 or 2, they cried like a bitch because its too hard and requires real skill and agency. Babies just want to be carried in their theme park adventure.Also, rule of cool is good faggots and so is low dark fantasy.
>>739204443>>739203906For me, it's just the fact that modern fantasy never does anything outside of medieval Central/Northern Europe. There's very few games based on ancient Greece,Rome, Spain or the Balkans and their myths. Even less on the Eastern Roman/ early to mid medieval counterparts on those regions and next to none on based on the Asian subcontinent outside of Japan and China (and even then they're few and far between). Frankly, modern fantasy is the most uncreative genre and the least interesting setting for a game second to the modern world (barring games that mix the modern world with mythological/sci-fi shit). It hasn't changed since Tolkien died and it's going to remain that way forever.>>739206269>If you don't like overdone fantasy tropes, you must be brown And you /v/irgins complain about why games are so derivative and lame all the time while saying retarded bullshit like this.
>>739191450>female magesIf there's magic in the first place, it solves every medieval problem.
>>739191450>perfect teeth and good hygiene>the streets in villages and cities are clean You have been brainwashed about the world by jewish media.
>>739193348Christianity is the reason for the creation of the schooling system. Churches werent just places for worship, people would learn and write. Pastors would gather groups of children to school on sciences and arts and every medieval scientist was a man of faith.
>>739191450>medievalThere's your problem. None of these fantasy settings are medieval, anon
>>739223721>rule of cool>low dark fantasyThese things don't go together
>>739197137Wait what happened with four elements trainer? It was one of my favorites
>medieval fantasy games>it is actually early modern fantasy game minus gunpowderEvery time.
>>739203906>medieval>middle agesLiterally both medieval.
>>739196476they had people going around to clean shit up like they do today. it probably wasnt as spotless but in contrast to modern times, they also didnt have non-biodegradable trash. also in more rural areas like this you have plenty of space next to the roads to throw your trash, this is more of an issue in a densely populated urban area.
>>739223895part of the issue is that when people do deviate from tolkien fantasy they tend to get ignored or overlooked because its "too out there" Morrowind wasn't exactly a smash hit when it came out for example
>>739191450>Tranny Phantom
>>739191450>everyone is literate and educatedThis sucks but depending on the setting the literate part can make sense, makes sense in high fantasy settings and any settings with an easy to access magic system>perfect teeth and good hygieneYes actually on the teeth, hygiene it depends on where they live>ProgressiveThis is aids yes but female warriors/mages etc are fine if humanity evolved differently and if women are even capable of being warriors instead of pretending then this humanity evolved much differently than our own so it's not immersion breaking when it's a difference species>streets are cleanBefore industrial revolution? Yeah kinda>gold coins being univeral currencyYes?
>>739191883Hollywood is made by jews
>>739205774"walking" the stairs on all four never felt so good.
>>739191450>fantasyYes, there're going to be differences from the actual medieval period of human history.
That animation of maddie sucking ofd danny in the shower is peak
>>739210128I want fantasy Comanche-fantasy Mongolian wars. People should be open and willing to play God with culturein fantasy and Bob Ross the shit out of fantasy cultures and visual aesthetics, damned be to political correctness. Imagine how cool it'd be to see a bunch of horned whooping turbo-rapists on horseback getting a rain of blood jaguars dropped on them by some wizard dressed in regal silk robes and piercings and tattoos of mutilated gods all over his face and body.
>>739213847the kvetching of the defeated shall carry on centuries more.
why is this board like this
>>739229336Forgive us for enjoying a tangled mess downstairs
>>739217691>having a kinda shitty class can be good for challenge runs.I think so, too. Classes should have varying power levels and fringe uses can be fine.
>>739191531Rance is there to remind everyone what century they're living in
>>739220001source?
>>739224581how were medieval peasants supposed to have good hygiene? they worked in mud all day and didn't know washing your hands prevents disease
>>739228712proof?
>>739230183They did not. Cleaning was important and encouraged by providing bathhouses aso. The idea was obviously to avoid pathogens.Don't forget people back then had half the work time they have today, likely less. There were almost weekly celebrations and living together was actually a thing. People cared about each other. The official reason was love thy neighbour, but the actual reason was they were dependant on said neighbours.
>>739192938Come home, peasant-man: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2592060/Under_The_Yoke/
>>739191450let's compare with actual medieval Europe to see the validity of the criticisms.>"everyone is literate and educated"The majority could read and write in their own languages, but there was no standardised spelling, so people just sort of wrote the best they could. When statistics talk about low rates of literacy in those times, it talks specifically about literacy in Latin, which was indeed low, as most people had no need to learn it.>"people have perfect teeth and good hygiene"For peasants, keeping their teeth clean was very important, as teeth could be sold to the nobility if times were tough. Nobles ate sweet foods which eroded their teeth. For some good money, peasants would sell their good teeth which would then be implanted in the mouths of nobles. Peasants would wash their teeth with salt, or if it wasn't available, then just rinse with water after meals.>"everyone is progressive and has no problem with female warriors, mages, blacksmiths or traders"Lots of widows owned businesses (continued that of their husbands), but you are right that female warriors and women in harsh jobs like blacksmithing was not something that happened. (when it rarely did happen, it was big news, like Joan of Arc) >"the streets in villages and cities are clean"Most places were indeed clean. It takes to be a pajeet to enjoy living in filth. The standards for what is clean has shifted though and we can say that we we would consider dirty, the people of the past might not have, but generally, it was rare for towns to actually reek.>"gold coins are the universal currency somehow"It should be gold and silver, with silver being the more common one. But outside of towns bartering was more common.
>>739231018I thought only potential threats were sacrificed? Like today in Mexico.
>>739210128For me it's the Circassian/Cossack coat like you've got there. Practical with the ability to improve on the fly while not being slapdashed together like a walking resin molotov.
>>739231473>The majority could read and write in their own languagesNo
>>739230330>The idea was obviously to avoid pathogenspathogens were discovered in the late 19th centuryalso>people cared about each otheris it really care if you are doing it out of necessity?
>>739192554to keep track of stock
>>739231764>pathogens were discovered in the late 19th centuryYou are such a drooling idiot.>is it really care if you are doing it out of necessity?One and the same but you are too IQ to understand that.
>>739231764People knew about illnesses and the scourge.>careThat stems from necessity. The church was the de facto ruler, like imams are in the Muslim world. No king stands over the sharia.
>>739231958>You are such a drooling idiot.Can't get ill if you don't know the exact mechanisms behind it. Can't get shot if you don't see the bullet.
>>739231958>You are such a drooling idiot.what did i say wrong? you implied they were "avoiding pathogens" when pathogens weren't even a thing.the fact that flies don't just spontaneously appear out of thin air was discovered in the 16th century btw.
>>739231764People knew about "bad humors" since before ancient egypt you idiot.
>>739232121People knew that flies, rodents and the such are bad news. Be it devil or whatever. They avoided that. It's true that mds started washing their hands like 100 years ago.>flies don't appear out of fucking nowhereDon't start with that, it was big news once that fruit flies lay their eggs on... well, fruit. Idiots aren't in short supply even today.
>>739232343that's exactly my point, the four humors system is completely wrong
>>739191450>medieval europe was le dirtyshut the fuck up with your historical revisionism
>>739191450If only those were the only problems you listed...
