Looking to play Xenoblade Chronicles. Is the Wii version preferred? I see they changed the art style for the switch port. And there's some missing effects too apparently? Is this another case of a fucked up port?
>>739192156>Is this another case of a fucked up portAren't they all? Just be prepared the gameplay is literally hotbar mmo but in single player.
>>739192156Wii version is best and the original visionThe demake fucked the lighting, artstyle, character models, effects, casualized the game significantly, and butchered the soulful UI
>>739192332Wii looks ugly
The remake is better, even from a gameplay perspective because you can't ruin yourself just by EXPLORING THE FUCKING GAME AS INTENDED.
DE is better in literally every way
>>739192361It's low-res but much more visually cohesive and soulful
>>739192385quick rundown? This sounds important
>>739192332You're right but chronic weeaboos will try to claim you're wrong.
>>739192449You can overlevel yourself quite easily.
>>739192156The Wii version is the way to go but it's not a good game either way.
>>739192449Okay, imagine there's a game with this amazing, expansive world that begs to be explored.Now imagine you get a shitton of exp just by doing side quests and finding new places.Now imagine you will end up the game at like level 90 something and every story boss you fight is a good 10-20 levels BELOW you and you can LITERALLY oneshot the final boss.The remake adds an option to manipulate your levels at will so you can, you know, actually fight them.The level progression in xc is beyond fucked.
>>739192156IMO, the switch version is better. They switched the artstyle is technically true but what actually happened is that they didn't budget designs for the characters just the armor, so the characters all look like goblins because they just didn't have an artstyle yet. The later version uses the same artstyle as the other games in the series. But the debacle aside, the Definitive Edition adds a basic feature for tracking items which is the most ass backwards worst part of the original release. Basically an NPC will ask you to get some wood, but all collectibles just show up as little blue balls in the over world with no way to tell apart which ones are the fucking wood. DE will mark which ones are wood.
>>739192361Wii has a gritty Vagrant Story aesthetic. DE is just generic sterile cutesy animeslop
>>739192156you're worrying about graphics in a nintendo game?
>>739192584The original was always a shonen anime
>>739192449So if you do sidequests, it is very easy to over level and trivialize the game.Switch version allows you to scale, similar to Xenoblade 2.Disregarding that, the biggest thing I would consider is your stance on "side quests".Wii version tells you vaguely where to complete quests, and you have to go find where to complete it.Switch version has indicators sp3cifically showing where to go. This to me is the biggest factor between the two versions, far more than artstyle.Future Connected is pretty much nothing, so don't worry about that either way.
>>739192449The exp you get from exploring and doing sidequest is turned into Event Exp you can use as you see fit. As opposed to a flat exp so just wandering about you'll be 10 levels above everything around you. The game uses a rubber band style level scaling so if your a little overleveled enemies will be nonexistent (and vice versa)
>>739192567You sound like an autistic retard. Yes, most RPGs you become OP if you powerfarm and do every piece of side content in the entire game before beating it, that's why you save it for endgame. Level scaling is not the fucking solution.
>>739192632In all fairness, we have chronic shitposters who cry about the series update getting a more in line traditional JRPG artstyle. They really are stupid enough to think this is a negative on for the anime franchise, especially when discussed on the anime website where anons love all facets of anime and manga storytelling and character design.
>>739192361>>739192447 I'm fine with low res, I prefer visual cohesion>>739192660>>739192567>>739192717I see. That's kind of annoying then. This sounds like Oblivion but in reverse. But I don't particularly expect jarpigs to be that hard to begin with. I might just do the OG anyway... Or does it really make it super boring?
>>739192723Level scaling is what the base game already has, retard. What he's talking about is making exp from sidequest a seperate resource you can redistribute (or not use)
>>739192723>if you powerfarm and do every piece of side content... which is not the case in xenoblade>do basic bitch side quest>get a level>enter a city>get a levelThe ability to simply delevel is a fucking godsend and it's always been regarded as the biggest issue gameplay wise.
>>739192723>Do all the side content and get overleveled>Don't do all the side content and stay underleveledSo how would you fix it, then? DE lets the player pick their difficulty by altering their level
>>739192449The game has a mechanic where if you're over 6 levels above an enemy, they essentially can't ever hit or damage you at all.In the original it's incredivly easy to overlevel yourself to the point where nothing in the game will ever challenge you.In DE you have the option to level down at will, preventing that from happening.
Wii version literally has higher ratings on every site out there, both user and critic.But, please, do believe autistic redditors who think more content is always better, that pacing doesn't matter, that QoL features and accessibility and sanding all rougher elements of a game are always a net positive, and that visual fidelity is more important than artstyle and original creative vision.
>>739192812You basically start ignoring bosses after the... second one? It's pretty fucking boring.Ignore the autist focused on the original who has this >>739192332 literal bot post in every thread and play the switch version, it's actually enjoyable to play.
>>739192864True. but different strokes for different folks. Part of the appeal of RPGS or JRPGS is building a powerhouse that can mow through the final boss in three hits. Because that means you built your character or party correctly and are being rewarded.
>>739192924Literally nothing stopping you from doing that in DE, that's why it's an option.
>>739192332>>739192447>>739192584>>739192885I bet least one of these played the game with the horrible HD-texture pack mod on dolphin.
>>739192913Is there a romhack or something out there for the Wii that fixes this? I have a hacked Wii.
>>739192924Dude, it's xenoblade, you aren't getting stronger because you built a character, you are getting stronger because you visited 30 different caves.
>>739192885The original didn't have a creative vision.
>>739193016Dude, that's perfectly acceptable on every level.
>>739193032Explain.
>>739193016Literally no different from your party in BG leveling up because you finished a map.
>>739192885>pacingit's literally the same pacing though, nothing was changed about that>original creative visionmade by the same people toodo I need to remind you that they didn't even have a character designer when they made the Wii version?the concept art was made afterwards by just tracing over the low-res 3d models
>>739192581Is that actually true? The OG character graphics are just unfinished?
>>739193089And you will still be on level for what's to come, if it was BG, you'd finish the first game at level 20
Remakes should always come with an option to play with the original graphics at no increased resolution
>>739193071Everyone talks about the art change but the reality is that there was no design consensus for the original release, they just drew up a bunch of armors and clothes then made character models to fill in the blanks. It wasn't some nuanced critique against anime, all these shitters in Monolith are anime otakus.
>>739193141Always has been, and the models look like crap too, poor melia.The remake models actually look like their art.
>>739193189>on level bad design choice. It would be objectively better to be able to reach level 20 early on and have the option to steam roll everything if you want. Same way its a good thing to be able to abuse the village in Bravely Default and have supercharged weapons like 20 hours into the game. It's fun.
>>739192156DE is basically better on every front especially if you havent played the original since its only thing it has going for it is if you prefered the originals visuals
>>739193141The original is a product of its time, a work of blood, sweat, and tears that can not be recreated.The DE is just generic animeslop because they ported it over to Xenoblade 2 engine and all the characters look gay as fuck and it butchers the atmosphere and aesthetic
>>739193306Good, because the remake has that option too.
So how important are the side quests plot and character development wise? I could just skip them if they're generic nothingburgers that simply grant XP.
>>739192924>>739193041>>739193089Why are Meliafags like this?
>>739193334>im so le quirky xD
>>739193421Don't target me with your subhuman shitposts. I will not be your in to derail the thread. You absolute waste of oxygen.
>>739193396Some of them are pretty goo and you will want to play them.The issue is the DISCOVERY exp that on its own fucks up the leveling system, to play this game in the wii version, level appropriate, you can't explore or fight anything you don't need to.
>>739193396Most are just small extra worldbuilding.A couple do unlock extra skill trees for your party members though.
Xenoblade WiiMetacritic Criticscore: 92Metacritic Userscore 9.1HLTB: 92Gamefaqs: 4.53Xenoblade DEMetacritic Criticscore: 89Metacritic Userscore 8.8HLTB: 88Gamefaqs: 4.31It's just pure coincidence everyone enjoyed the Wii version better and rated it significantly higher.
>>739192156Definitive edition has a lot of QoL fixes and some new extra content, including an epilouge. Up to you to decide if you want the trade off
>>739193632>we don't have jrpgs>we have jrpgs
>>739193442No, you're just a shitstain zoomer and should kys. Fuck your shitty demake and fuck you defending casualizing the game, making it more accessible, sanding off any bit of it that has any personality, butchering its original artstyle for some generic moe shit same as 2, and especially the UI is miles worse.
>>739193632And the crazy thing is the standard was way higher in the past so the difference is even more significant
moe website. Since 2003
>>739193396I'll right this will take some explanation. The game has really great side quest but the problem is that they're hidden behind the incredibly obtuse affinity tree system. Basically in order to unlock the real sidequest you have to talk to a bunch of NPCs at specific times in the day (they teleport around the map based on time), so that it updates the affinity tree enough to unlock the next stage. To add to the confusion the game has a bunch of fake sidequests that are immediately available and they're just mmo style go kill 10 electric frogs or some such bullshit with no story elements at all. These only exists for grinding exp or materials, and they just make finding the real sidequests even more backwards. So to answer your question, they're worth doing but probably leave it for a second playthrough or something because otherwise you'll be scratching your head all game long.
>>7391921563DS is the best version unironically. Makes you wonder how they achieved to condense such big ass game into a little cartridge little game.
>>739192156Look if you want to play the Wii or new3DS version of this game for fidelity or whatever that's cool and all. DE fixes the biggest issue I had with the original, you can wear the armor pieces for aesthetic without having to look like a clown, for a game so dedicated about gear pieces that was the critical flaw. Everyone is already telling you how big that was on development that the characters ended up looking like they did. Not a problem anymore.
2DE when?
>>739193632this is flawed reasoning, like this guy says >>739193696xb on wii was like the only BIG jrpg and it was really impressive, its still a good game but on switch its not as impressive. also its not like people are making these comparisons together to say one is better than the other >>739193848>was way higher in the past so the difference is even more significantthat actually just proves the opposite, people went back and played it and evaluated it properly
>>739193779are you autistic?
>>739193396What >>739193542 said. The issue is finding landmarks will give you a lot of exp and you'll be overleveled unless you only go directly from point a to b. Another issue is how SP and AP gain from enemies scale to your level, so while you're overleveled, progression for the other two slow to a crawl.
>>739193907This.Really comfy playing while even taking a dump.https://youtu.be/L5xuRbkXcZ8
>>739193907By making the shit graphics worse. Still agree that it's fantastic, especially on a real handheld 3DS and not an emulator where the low res isn't as noticable
>>739193779Retard
>>739194015>that actually just proves the opposite, people went back and played it and evaluated it properlyNo it doesn't you fucking stupid mong. They are two very different versions, and the Wii version is rated significantly higher. Even with today's lower standards, Switch Demake scored much lower
>>739192567dunno about that lolI literally have a recent save file where I did every single fucking sidequest and NM up to the bionis' interior and I'm only TWO levels higher than the enemies therefull collectapedia entries, full maps, and the colony built up whenever it's possible, all secret locations, e v e r y t h i n gsounds more like you also just mindlessly grinded a fuckton/constantly took encounters while exploring even when you didn't need toin fact if you leave even a quarter/a third undone you'll be underleveled by Interiorif you're going out of your way to constantly double back and constantly do quests and the like yeah - and of course if you ignore the point of no return at the end of the game and continue doing shit you'll eventually outstrip what's left but considering the rest of the goddamn game still has the curve it does in spite of me literally doing everything up to that makes the reality of it pretty clearmethinks the "overleveled" people literally just cannot stop themselves from taking every single enemy nearby on a path from A to B even when it's unnecessary
>>739193889could also just follow a guide maybe
True chads deal with him without blowing up the way with dynamite
>>739194552>I AM RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE GAME IS WRONGYeah?
>>739193421Obsessed schizo.
>>739193421>>739194763Neither of you can help yourselves, can you?
>>739194196if the wiis scored dropped that simply means it doesnt hold up, you are so dumb you dont realize you are dumb
>>739194552These same autistic fags are the ones who will tell you skill issue when you complain about a boss when you haven't powerfarmed for a billion hours.God, I fucking hate JRPGs. The Larian way with finite encounters and exponential exp is so much better
>>739194820The Wii's score did not drop you massive fucking retard. Those are two different versions with significant differences being played and rated.
>>739194859oh, oh nyooo. Anyway.
We should've gotten the Fallen Reyn timeline ngl
>>739194859if you hate jrpgs so much why are you in a thead about one, autistically screeching at anyone who disagrees with you
>the original is better because erm it just like is okay :(
>>739192156Either is fine. The remaster does add some extra content + story and a lot of much needed QoL features but you could also do almost the same with codes on the Wii. It then just boils down to looks. Personally I don't care for the overused mobile game style the remaster uses. So in terms of gameplay DE>WiiIn terms of looksWii>DE Its not just the faces they've changed either, even little bits of soulful stuff like the main menu's change depending on your location, was removed with the DE version.
I want a Xenosaga remake
>>739194959>>739194932
>>739194932Why'd he do it bros?
>>739195180
>>739192723You sound like someone who has never played a JRPG but holds very strong opinions on them.
>>739195227fer teh epik lulz xDDDD
>>739195136>top>melia is distraught because she knows her guard is about lay down their lives and be brutally killed so she can live>bottom>melia has bad hemorroids and is turtling but no longer has the rectal strength to control her bowels
>>739195136why do original fags wanna pretend an ugly game is better so bad?
>shilling for the original version's graphicsLolwut? How much more contrarian can this place get?
>>739195269I have played enough JRPGs to know I hate them aside from Souls, Paper Mario, and Pokemon
>>739193696XBC competed with the entire godly libraries of the PSP and the DS. the competition for DE is its own sequels and also ... FE7 remake part 2's second wave of DLC?
>>739195180What causes a fringe normalfag to have such a volatile reaction like this? Did the superior japanese characters and visual designs make you feel bad about the lower western standards?
>>739195458Both XBC versions are Japanese-made, you're a retard.
>>739195387why are you pretending your opinion has any value when you're constantly saying how much you hate this game
>>739195512>why are you saying how disgusting dogshit is? You should leave that opinion for the dogshit connoisseurs
>>739195414>PSP and the DS.are those the wii?
>>739195510One has unfinished graphics. The DE has complete, superior and finished anime style character designs that are complementary to the anime game xeno franchise as a whole. You lil goose nugget. lmao.
>>739195645You come into this thread talking about how bad DE is compared to the orginal.Then you switch to saying the original and all JRPGs are dogshit as well.I think your opinion is not worth much at that point tbqh.
the real question is which one emulates better
>>739195828>everyone ITT who disagrees with me is one personRetard
I hope Takahashi hires/d on Saito full time for the next game. Visually his character designs run laps around 99.9% of games released in the last 5 years. >inb4 some cope pretending photo realistic dogshit is even worth a second look
>>739195841Emulation is a sin against God especially when you could pay for your fantasy entertainment
>>739195898Don't sign your posts, you've been reddit-spacing the entire thread my friend.
>>739195879Anime is not inherently bad, just the generic faggy moeshit for troons
>>739195956>reddit spacingNewfag alert.
>>739195976Moe, SoL, Romcom and CGDCT are vastly superior to generic dogshit. You're posting on a moe approved board. Just thought you should be made aware.
>>739195742critic ratings are generally against the field, not against the console library. if you release the first and only real-time strategy game on the Xbox Series and its also a piece of garbage, metacritic isnt going to boost your ranking because the poor Xbox Series audience was desperate for RTS.
>>739196145>I'm a troon faggot manchild NEET so that means everyone else is
>>739192156https://youtu.be/kdNF-KWr3HUI think Makna forest looks better on the Wii.But there are so many QoL changes in the new version besides the resolution, that I would play that version. You can switch the new music for the old one easily too, and I think both are great.I played over 120 hours on the Wii and about 90 on the Switch. Either way, you have a masterpiece in your hand
>>739194763>>739193421
>>739193251>>739195136Now post Wii Fiora.
>>739196160you dont get a xenoblade kinda game on the ds or really even the psp but by DE you literally did have xenoblade on the 3ds
>>739196237>>739194763
>>739196214You seem upset because you don't fit in with the otaku wizard userbase. That's okay. Maybe in a few more years you'll better yourself and assimilate. I can't imagine it's good for your health to be this wound up over simple realities. How is your blood pressure? Have you checked it?
>>739192660>>739192717>>739192864Isn't this what sidequests are literally for? You can choose to do them to increase your level over what is required of you to just play the story.
>>739196237>>739196317Schizo
>>739193421>>739196237Why are Fiorafags like this?
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DESTROY EVERY ENEMY IN SIGHT WITH A SINGLE BLOW YOU HAVE TO STRUGGLE TO BEAT THE GAME
>>739196237>>739196317>>739196460>>739196485Kys
>>739196532The souls franchise has been a net detriment to the industry at large. We have ended with people deluding themselves that it should be a big deal to fight a boss and that it's a measure of skill to dodge roll and hitbox. Or worse entertained the pretense that is somehow an indicator of quality for a game.
Oh so if >>739194552 is right, it seems like it's another case of /v/ beign full of faggots.
>>739196449The thing is you don't only gain XP from doing sidequests, but just exploring the world, as discovering a new area or landmark also dumps XP on you.
>>739196449>>739196532The issue is that AP gain (leveling Arts) and SP (leveling Skill Trees) is mainly from killing mobs. So overleveling early on makes it a bit more annoying to get those leveled up. Though your raw level will be good against enemies.The Switch version was a huge boon with the Expert mode to let you adjust your levels. And it makes endgame grinding even better cause you can really get the best gain out of the Tephra Cave farm point.And the lesser known thing is that the Switch version finally fixed the bug when using "Attack Plus" Gems. In the Wii/3DS versions, the game didn't count any attack damage that was more than 99 higher than the min-attack stat. So weapons or using the gems to give a large spread between min/max was mostly pointless.
>>739192156I have nostalgia for the wii version, but anyone saying it looks better is coping very very hard.If you think you have any chance at all of playing the other games in the series, you may as well just play DE.
>>739196285Couldn't find a bigger pic.
>>739192156switch version has some really nice features, like quest markers on the map for side content, cosmetic gear slots and the biggest one, expert mode which allows you to de-level your team when you become overleveled from doing side content.
>>739196646Rent free.
>>739193141Yeah whole game was done on fly, they didn't had a character designer at that time. Tanaka and choco rejoined staff for X and 2 got Saitom.
>>739197050It's hardly unfair to be suprised when people don't want good series being tarnished by something so much worse if not flat out lesser by the mere association of existing in the same industry
>>739196874Why is the original Melia making a face like her whole family is getting raped in front of her?
>>739192156playing through the DE right now - figured it'd have additional content and qol fixes. i'm liking it better than XBC2.
>>739197176It looks more like shes trying to take a shit
One very nice thing about DE is fashion gear. As long as you got a piece of equipment at any point, it gets registered, and you can wear it anytime from there on.
>>739197201most simpletons do
>>739197176Why are Meliafags like this?
>>739197281On that note, be sure to get the staff from Kallian after heading out to Valak Mountain. It;s the only missable fashion gear in the game that isn't from a store or a drop in any way
>>739196226The fog looks amazing on Wii, there's none on Switch.The color palette is also better, Wii looks more earthly and warm, while Switch looks more cold.All in all Switch looks more generic.
OY THE SWITCH LOOKS A DAFT GENERIC INNIT'?
I wonder if they going keep Saitom for next game.
>>739192156YesIgnore any trannies telling you to play the shitty censored slop DEmakePlay it on Wii, or emulate on DolphinAnd USE THE JAPANESE VOICESThe bong accents ruin the game, and they ruin Dunban in particular who is now a stoic robot for whatever reasonThankfully the script isn't altered too much from the Japanese
>>739193907>Makes you wonder how they achieved to condense such big ass game into a little cartridge little game.the game renders at 240p, with lower texture resolution, lower model geometry, removed overworld details and effects, compressed audio and leaves out the japanese dub completely. That's how the almost 7GB game went down to the almost 4GB size which was the cap of the 3DS cartridges.
>>739197281And to expand that further, it functions by being a global save file separate for the game, so once you've obtained the piece of gear once, you can actually reload a save and you'll see it's available in the fashion slot.Very useful for getting all the Challenge Mode stuff without grinding it for hours (like I did lol, I optimized one so well)
>>739197130From Software would be "lesser" than Monolith?Thanks for the laugh. They are better on the technical side, I'll give you that much.
>>739192156>>739192332>>739192447>>739192584People are still out here in 2026 trying to argue that a Xeno game is not "anime"? Holy fucking shit, move on with your lives.
>>739197527>if I post a face everyone will stop noticing the rest of the game
>>739197648>the fog is different so please ignore the ugly ass ps2 faces that hog up every single cutscene
>>739195746>One has unfinished graphics.That would be the tranny DEmake with its non-existent lighting>The DE has complete, superior and finished anime style character designsNo, DE is dogshit with amateurish pixiv-tier designs and gutted lightingAlso censored
https://youtu.be/f1BqloKgklk?si=qn3MtlvTl_Lm4f7m
>>739193396The side quests are literally the game
>>739197547>>739197887don't you have some indian twitter bot to be arguing with right now while you skip your anki reps?
>>739197690Yes. You look at the faces maybe 1% of the time. The art direction is better on Wii.And there's literally no fog on Switch LMAO.
>>739195841Wii obviously
>>739195136TopsoullessBottomSOUL
>>739195136>QoLJust say casualization you fucking tranny
>>739192156>Is the Wii version preferredHell no, Definitive Edition letting you level down alone puts it way above the Wii version.
>>739196863Wii version is bad but the styled used in DE has no identity. It looks like modern Y's, Tales of, Trails, various mobile games, 3D Fire Emblem, and various other jrpgs on the market right now that if you took a screenshot of either, most outsiders couldn't tell the difference which game they came from. Its too damn generic. Its like the indie pixel style for jrpgs. You can still match the concept art with any other style but the one they chose just looks lazy. And don't even get me started on that lazy flat UI from the DE. I don't care how much QoL DE added, that shit is lazy as fuck.
>>739197327>>739194763
>>739198347ah yes the casualization feature of allowing you to fight every boss in the game at the right level range because you would otherwise dwarf them level wise. how dare they remove the hardcore feature of sleepwalking through the game because you did side content
>>739197176>>739197256>>739197327Why are Fiorafags like this?
>>739192156I like the remake more personally
Protect her smile /v/
>>739195919Saito is fucking trashThe best designer they had was the one in XB1>B-b-but he was a 3D ModelerIrrelevantXenoblade designs peaked with the Xenoblade 1 art bookI don't know where TakaHACKi even found this Saito hack when there are plenty of better illustrators in the manga industry he could have pickedEven in this declining manga industry
>>739198613Why are Shaniafags like this?
>>739198416Before DE was a thing, absolutely no one was saying Xenoblade 1 was good because of the style. All everyone cared about was the story and worldbuilding (and maybe some people who were particularly into the gameplay)It's why no one was all that offended when they stuck the game onto a tiny ass 3DS screen.Just saying.
>>739198347wearing different outfits isnt casualization
>>739198613
>>739196285>>739196874Her name is Fiorung btw(the g at the end is silent)
>implying Fiorafags exist
>>739198747>Fiorung
>>739198675>Before DE was a thing, absolutely no one was saying Xenoblade 1 was good because of the style.Yeah true, I remember someone was even working on a HD texture pack to make the game look good. Btw how were those HD texture packs? Last I read the person working on it was at the Bionis Leg.
Switch version is preferable. There's new content, massive QoL changes (one anon talks about the whole blue-balls-of-nothing in the world issue that's fixed)and since it plays on emulators now, you can add whatever mods you want if you're going to sperg out about whatever changes were made from the original or 3DS earlier versions.
>>739195146I'd be happy for a >Episode I + II DSfan translation that's complete at this point.
>>739197995weird that someone is saying to skip them for the first playthrough then
>>739192156The Wii version is way better despite the flaws listed itt. The people that prefer the demake should just stick to snoy tales games.
>>739194196>Wii version is rated significantly higher.I'm sure Project Rainfall had nothing to do with the less than 5 pt higher score, you moron. Wii looks good, nobody says it looks like shit, DE is a better designed game, though.
>>739198486You're getting slower
>>739192156personally i prefer the wii version, but the remaster has a bunch of quality of life features that are quite nice, but they fucked up the character animations and expressions (which are pretty important). Id say you can go for it if you want but do yourself a favor and switch to the original soundrack untill you are past the colony 9 section, the remake has one music track that goes so over the top it ruins a pivotal moment in the story.
>>739192156WAAHHH WAHHH WAHHHI HATE JAPAN!!!I HATE JAPANESE CULTURE!!!I HATE THINGS THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL!!!WHY CANT THINGS BE UGLY LIKE ME!??!?!?!?!?!?!
>>739199407>switch to the original soundrack untill you are past the colony 9 sectionOr just play the whole game with the original soundtrack, there's only like 2 tracks where the remastered version is better
>>739199325in what way is it better outside of prefering the visuals?
>>739192156> I see they changed the art style for the switch port. And there's some missing effects too apparently? Is this another case of a fucked up port?No, the Definitive Edition is an exceptionally rare case of a remake that actually manages to improve the original. Only pathological nostalfags and anime-haters will say otherwise.Only bad thing is the completely useless sequel story, but you're not required to play it.
>>739197118>Muh incompleted designThis is the biggest lie demake trannies always repeatThe artbook designs were already in the back of the box and were also used on the UINobody gives a fuck about Takahashi's schizo ramblings about how he had no dedicated character designer when the designs in Xenoblade are superior to that trannyshit on 2All he had to do for the remake was to render those designs at a high fidelityBut since that would be too expensive he opted to homogenize the art style and make it look like the Neptuniashit that was XB2The Smash 4 model of Shulk is the closest we'll ever get to seeing the original designs in high fidelity
>>739199325how are tales games snoy? the fuck
>>739197690The cutscenes look better on Wii you tranny
>>739200129smash 4s model looked horrendous, original defenders are fucking brain dead
>>739198007Go join the 41% you freak
In a just world this faggot gets a 100km range ban
>>739192156Switch version is superior purely because it allows you to turn off bonus experience from sidequests which completely trivializes the fucking game.Everything else is tertiary at best compared to this glaring design issue.
>>739200129Its hilarious that almost 10 years after its release, xenoblade 2 is still making people seethe.
>>739198510>ah yes the casualization feature of allowing you to fight every boss in the game at the right level range because you would otherwise dwarf them level wise.Yeah it's casualizationBefore, if you wanted to do that you had to plan beforehand Now it's handed to you in a silver platterNevermind btw that this is a game that featured menu gameplay and wasn't supposed to be particularly challenging
>>739200383I want this stupid word get filtered. Can't have any discussion without a cunt trying to derail thread.
>>739198675>Before DE was a thing, absolutely no one was saying Xenoblade 1 was good because of the style.The game was praised for looking amazing for an open world Wii game.What is this bullshit revisionism?The Demake is a downgrade. Deal with it.
>>739200608>actually yes killing every boss instantly was more hardcore>also this game isn't supposed to be hard I'm getting mixed signals here anon
>>739198796It's Carna and not Sharla btwSharla is a posh-sounding name which doesn't fit the character
>>739200761>looking amazing for an open world Wii gameThe emphasis was that it is impressive and looks good "for a Wii game"It has nothing to do with the style and everything to do with just how weak the Wii was considered so it's cool to have these massive open areas on the bodies of huge titans.
>>739192156The remake having transmog is reason enough for me to like it more lol, most of the armors in this game suck
>>739199318These are soulstranniesThe sidequests are the meat and potatoes of the gameAlthough they are definitely bullshit in how you access them and how you can fuck up the progress tree so you may have to look at a guideUnless you're autistically grinding you can't really overlevel that much in the game by doing sidequestsYou need to do a shitload of them to not be underleveled anyways
I played the wii version last year on my wii u and i thought it looked great for a game that old. The big outdoor environments were impressive. The wiimote controls fucking sucked though.
>>739192156>>739192332The Switch version is actually the best one because it includes Expert Mode, that is the main reason to play it.It's not casualized at all unless you want it to be. In the original game you had to actively fight against the game in order to keep the game challenging, because just playing it normally would overlevel you for everything, and the game is designed so that level difference is EVERYTHING in terms of difficulty. The Switch version lets you manually adjust your levels at any time, letting you stay 10 levels below the opposition for the perfect challenge, and that's also where the combat acquires some actual depth.Switch version also generally looks better, but yes, it looks worse in some areas, especially facial animations and environmental VFX.
>>739192332>>739197547>>739199325wow two hours of samefaggingimpressive
>>739200121>Yeah, the Definitive Edition is a common case of a remake that is a downgrade from the originalFixed for accuracy
>>739201141>The wiimote controls fucking sucked though.Then use a classic controller.Honestly I liked playing with the wiimote controls and 100% the game using them
>>739197176You posted this exact message in another thread, and the reply is the same (maybe you wanted someone to say it)She's making that face because her family IS in fact being raped(or rather, killed) in front of her.
>>739192156If you value the artstyle a lot I'd go with Wii. Personally I don't find the added QoL like deleveling worth the artstyle being ruined - exploring the environments is a big part of the game. The game gets easier at it goes on regardless, so being overleveled is not a huge deal. You can also safely ignore the generically labeled Defeat Enemies and Gather Materials (paraphrased) sidequests, as they only exist for EXP and don't further sidequest trees or NPC stories.
>>739200352It looked better than the tranny flatshaded garbage that was Demake Cope and seethe
>>739200383>>739200705Cry more troon
>>739201454>exploring the environments is a big part of the gamethe world is so empty honestly I dont get people that rate xb1 so highly every other game is so much better
>>739201394Don't have one. On the wii u the only controller option is to use the bigass gamepad thing which is not comfy at all.
>>739192547No you can't.I explored for dozens of hours, i did every single quest i possibly could, i was not overlevelled at all.
letting westoids play jrpg's was a mistake
>>739200765This never happenedYou can't oneshot bosses The game was clearly designed for you to be immersed in and do sidequestsThat was the design intention of the devsIt wasn't supposed to be a boss rush game, you soulsfaggot
xenoblade wii dickriders have the shittiest taste imaginable
>>739201620I'll give you Gaur Plains which has large stretches of nothing, but the other areas are fine.
>>739201454>The game gets easier at it goes on regardlessKEK you were definitely overleveled as fuck then because this is just a blatant lie.
>>739201575>He says in a xeno threadKekaroo!>>739201845>Generic rpg trope is blantent lieYup. He had to grind
>>739201738>you can't oneshot bossesyou can oneshot basically every enemy in the game with a chain attack>The game was clearly designed for you to be immersed in and do sidequests>That was the design intention of the devs>It wasn't supposed to be a boss rush game, you soulsfaggotcorrect, which is why it's very nice that they added expert mode so you can fight bosses and not be overleveled by doing that side content. I'm not quite sure where you got that I think the game is a boss rush from but I'm going to chalk that up to you being extremely stupid, or extremely desperate for attention.
>>739201845Someone wasn't crafting gems
>>739202008It doesn't get easier, yeah the numbers go up like always but enemies and especially bosses also get far more tricks up their sleeve you have to watch out for. Yknow, if you fight them for more than two seconds without killing them.Fucking dope.
>>739200893The style was better thoughPicrel looks miles above anything this series has had since thenAnd before you say>these were made after the gameNo they fucking weren'tYou can see the same Shulk design in the back of the box of the original Japanese boxartThe art style on X was a bit of a downgrade(better graphics though somewhat but some of the characters looked wonky)And the style on 2 and 3... they didn't even fucking try, they surrendered to garbage ass generic cookie cutter shit, and then applied the same to the shit remakeAnd then they became unambitious with the in-game graphics too opting for generic flat-shaded cookie cutter anime game graphics instead of the full 3D graphics they used to produceMake no mistake, the XB1 in-game models weren't good when you compare them to Xenosaga models, but it was understandable because it was an open world Wii game and I guess they lost some staff, but what they did with the Demake on Switch is that they just gave up and became low budget crapXenosaga 1-3 look 100 times better than crap like XB2 and 3
>>739201153Retarded trannydial8
>>739201454holy soulless
>>739201394>Honestly I liked playing with the wiimote controls and 100% the game using themThere were pros and consYou could execute commands in battle while moving aroundBut buying shit on store was painful and so were many little things like interacting with NPCsPlus the nunchuk isn't comfortable to hold for long periods of time
You overplayed your hand by including XS 1 and 2 in there. You were doing alright with the bait until then.
>>739202053A chain attack isn't a oneshotAnd I can't remember ever oneshotting a bossGuess I wasn't leveled up enough despite doing a shitload of sidequests>correct, which is why it's very nice that they added expert modeIt's gay shitIf you want a challenging game, go play real games like arcade gamesIt's like when they add ''difficult monsters'' to Dragon QuestFucking retarded
>>739203341>it's gay shitso don't use it man, it's an option and a welcome one but if you don't want to fight every boss with a red namebar don't. imagine seething at more options lmao
No amount of shilling will make the goblinas in the original look good.
Why are Meliachads so based?
>>739192156The Switch version is obviously better. Did the Wii even let you swap languages to Japanese?
Melly's mellys don't fit in her old outfit
>>739203341There's a difference between a game not being challenging and a game being completely trivial and Xenoblade 1 very easily becomes the latter.The level penalties in this game are so extreme that just being 6-7 levels ahead of an enemy means it's virtually impossible for the enemy to hit you, you could put your controller down and still not lose.There are other RPGs where you can break the game by doing side content like FF8 but it usually requires knowledge and intent. In Xenoblade 1 it's very easy to unknowingly become overleveled in a game where overleveled means invincible.
>>739203007What bait?You have to be braindead to think any of the Xenoblade games have graphics as good as any of the Xenosaga gamesEspecially the trannyblade games on SwitchWhy can't Monolith Soft design appealing proper 3D graphics anymore?Did all the good 3D modelers they had leave or something?
>>739203507>imagine seething at more options lmaoYes I will, because it's superfluous addition to appeal to 5 peopleMore =/= better
Which version has the better translation? or do they both use the same script
>>739203974it's a great addition with a very little opportunity cost to make that does in fact make the game better, cope and seethe more
>>739204006Same script.
>>739203887None of the blade goymes look good, but>Pic rela >GoodKekaroo! No wonder Capcom analized the 6th and 7th gen.
>>739203772How come I never had that issue?I did a shitload of sidequesting(even looked up the wiki) and even did some gem craftingI don't remember ever being able to oneshot a boss
>>739203887>it’s good because it’s veering toward photo realisticEurgfjjjfnf i’m going to vomit Every game that looks more like an anime model blows photo realism out of the water. The fucking sky remake looks leagues better than most games
>>739203762Why are Meliafags like this?
>>739203762Why are Meliachads so based?
>>739204157It doesn't make the game betterThe ''gameplay part'' is the worst part of XenobladeThe combat is basically the same level of gameplay as an FMV gameYou are retarded if you enjoy it
Imagine the level of contrarianism your have to be in to pretend that legendary ugly kusoge Xenosaga 2 is preferable to anything.Fun fact: Takahashi was already on his way out of the team at the time but that game was so poorly received that he was brought back as director and has remained as such ever since.
>>739204590>>739194763
>>739204219Xenosaga games looked good thoughNot top-tier(like Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts) but very solidYou would think Monolith would only improve with time, but they only got worse with time
>>739204308>Xenosaga>photorealismWtf are you talking about?It was going for an Anime Full 3D CGI lookLike Toy Story/Pixar but with anime style, like the Final Fantasy VII to Final Fantasy X cutscenes It wasn't doing that shit flat shading look to attempt to look like 2D Anime and fail miserably like anime games keep doing nowadays
>>739204713Why were you gone for so long last thread? Real life priorities finally won out over schizoposting on 4chan?
>>739205134Yeah, your examples look like dogshit
>>739205134>Like Toy Story/Pixar but with anime styleOtherwise known as being a Japanese video game
>>739204308Also>Every game that looks more like an anime model blows photo realism out of the water. The fucking sky remake looks leagues better than most gamesNo, you are delusionalNobody thinks these games look graphically impressive except for tranniesThese all look like shitKH2 and FFX mog all these tranny flat-shaded current era anime games
>>739205285Wrong.
>>739205218You look like dogshit tranny>>739205236Yeah it wasn't aiming for realismIt was just a real 3D game, instead of trying to look 2D and failing
>>739192156Wii version is significantly better. This is the last bastion of soulful games
why would anyone want to play xc1 ? i think most fun thing in the game is the british voiceover, but whole game is soso
>>739205662We get it. You hate anime on the unironic virgin anime loving wizard website. One day if you try hard enough you'll assimilate and learn how to fit in with your betters.
>>739205810Because it's infinitely better than Xenoshit 2 in every conceivable way, maybe
>>739205134But Xenoblade isn't doing that either otherwise it wouldn't use realistic looking materials for things like environments and clothing. The characters are just stylizedSomething that actually tries to look like a 2d anime would be arcsys' fighting games
>>739205810I don't know, maybe because it's the first game in the series and sets-up the framework all future games use. Essential to not being a secondary.
>>739205445You think trash like picrel looks goodIt looks like cardboard placed on top of a green screenThe same problem HD2D slop like Octopath hasKills the immersionEither go full 2D or go full 3D
>>739205876nah, XC2 is great game with good ost, characters, lots of things happening in story, nice cutscenes, lots of content, lots of secret charactersxc1 is walking simulator, where you walk a lot. you party is some boring shitters, with primitive problems, enemies are some shitters too, xc1 is like 3 but 10 times slower and worse.why would anyone play xc1
>>739205848>NOOOOOOOOOOO IF YOU HATE TRASH GRAPHICS THAT MEANS YOU HATE ANIMEKill yourself zoomer
>>739206194For one, Xenoblade 1 has a waaay better OST. I can just name tracks: Gaur Plains, Frontier Village, Eryth Sea, Mechonis Field. All fucking God tier soundtracks compared to Tantal (the only actually good Xenoblade 2 track)
>>739205810>i think most fun thing in the game is the british voiceoverThat's because you're a memeloving faggotThe bong accents suck ass
>>739206261>trash graphicsNo one posted a modern Final Fantasy game post XII.
>>739206091Looks beautiful compared to the large majority of modern games. Holy fuck look at the witcher entries or a 3D fallout game or any bioware game for actually irredeemable dogshit. Stylized anime graphics supersede them all.
>>739205957>But Xenoblade isn't doing that eitherAll the Switch Xenoblade games literally did thatThey all try to look like 2D anime and it just looks flat and shitty
>>739192385>>739192393Retards that have to use caps because they're so insecure and angry about making their point
They should look more like a code vein. Another example of a better looking game with that blows shitty textures and realism out of the water. Hell even the God Eater games look better than most.
The truth is you can't, simply can't, talk about Xenoblade 1 on this board because Enel and his dumb nasty faggot trooncord has such a chokehold on this board that you can never talk against or defy their worship of Xenoshit 2. Every single Xenoblade 1 thread, for the past 15 years, has been distorted into garbage by these freaks who NEED to PROVE, befoer they die, against all else,that Xenoshit 2 is the most amazing better masterpiece game.
>>739203887Saga 2 was shit on and Monolith was forced to course correct into a modicum of better art direction in the third game.
>>739206297One thing I've found about people who have a vendetta against specific games is that you guys refuse to concede they may have one or two good points. Trying to claim that Xenoblade 2 doesn't have a good OST is just genuine seethe.
>>739206194The characters in 2 are shitThe protag is a fucking shota faggotYou can't be seriousMeanwhile in 1 you have Dunban voiced by Ryo Horikawa and Mumca by Noro Wakamoto
>>739198675>It's why no one was all that offended when they stuck the game onto a tiny ass 3DS screen.Why would someone be "offended" by a port? Are you insane?
>>739192332SPBP
>>739206810>is that you guysI stopped reading. Address me not "us gays" like a dumb pussy faggot retard
>>739206370Imagine thinking FFXIII is ugly
>>739206837The things Rex has to do would make Master Chief or God of War Guy piss and shid themselves because they are incapable of measuring up.
>>739206886I mean, I didn't call you gay, but you sure are acting like a faggot, so you do you man.
>>739200884>>739206837
>>739206502Not reallyLook at the clothingLook at the background rocksBeyond the characters being stylized, the game isn't really trying to look like an anime, let alone 2dAnd frankly you would have to be very disingenuous to say that the plastic toy looking ships, mechs, weapons, etc from Xenosaga 1 and 2 are good 3d modeling, let alone better than anything in the Xenoblade games
The wii version has the better faces imo. Yeah they are 'uglier but they also kind of look better than the de faces despite that. The old faces just look more unique.
>>739207117How can western games ever measure up? It's almost impossible for them at this point.
>>739206440>Looks beautiful compared to the large majority of modern games.No it doesn'tAnd you are insane if you think Witcher 3 looks bad
>>739201454The grass moves, the tree leaves don't. Top kek.
Behold, the peak of retardation 2 worship >>739207117Nothing in this series is good enough. Everything that became before and after is shit. Only Xenoblade 2 is a masterpiece.
>>739206801It wasn't criticized for its graphics, you are full of shitXenosaga Ep 3 looked better because the dev team improved over the years
>>739206837>The characters in 2 are shityes but there are characters doing something, like homura and hikari, but then there are funny tora, and his father, and father of his father, saika and thunderman, antagonist party, this guys are kinda interestingand xc1 like, "we are villagers we are fighting robots. and there are super nation of winged guys oh well". there are literally nothing in xc1, this is 2010 game that was nice in 2010. too bad it was not released on ps3/x360
>>739207243The only saving grace of witcher 3 is that the faces are somewhat stylized. They regressed with cyberpunk.
>>739207434>and xc1 likeWhere there is the narrative of Shulk and Dunban losing Fiora, and teaming up to get her back. Where the entire game has a hard drive. Meanwhile in 2>a hurrr here is Morag to tag along for zero reason (she's a lesbo but we refuse to accept that)>a hurr here is Zeke who has no reason to be here since Rex just steals his blade anyway>a hurr the rest is Rex and his forced harem thart clearly most people did not enjoy. Who the fuck likes harem shit except the most low IQ pajeet self-insert fantisists.
>good graphics means looking realWho let the kids in after school?
>>739206810Nta but Xenoblade 2 and 3(and especially X) all have forgettable soundtracksPeople just pretend 2 and 3 have good soudtracks because Mitsuda's name is attached to it but it's all boring generic orchestral and choralslopMitsuda has never composed a good soundtrack after Chrono Trigger(no matter how much some autists wank the boring forgettable Chrono Cross soundtrack which has like 2-3 good tracks in total)The same also happened with X, people pretended to like that soundtrack because Sawano's name was attached to it but it sounded like garbage>inb4 but ACE+ did most of the tracksI know but somehow it's like they lost all their ability to compose decent tracks after XB1, and the stuff in 2 and 3 sound like the most generic forgettable anime buttrock possible
>>739207297That's a screenshot from 3 you dumb faggot
>>739206998You sound like you drink a lot of onions
>>739201768It's more a case of there being actually fucking nothing. X onwards knew to add chests to the fields because having a little something to find in the world made exploration a lot better.>but the chests in the high entia tomb and prison islandThey are the exception, not the norm.
>>739207894You sound like you actually bought into the shitpost about "manly men games" that's hilarious.
>>739207832I know that you retarded ape I'm saying you posted that as a dumb faggot retard
>>739207735>(no matter how much some autists wank the boring forgettable Chrono Cross soundtrack which has like 2-3 good tracks in total)One song from Chrono Cross is worth more than the entire Chrono Trigger soundtrack.
>>739201704Letting retarded coomtard fetishists think they have a brain was a mistake
Holy fuck someone alert Enel on the discord to write a 10 page paragraph on why Xenoblade 2 is a masterpiece of Gayming already. You faggots are floundering. 10 years ago we'd get 5 posts in a row by Enel on why Xenoblade 2 is an untouchable faggot relic of gayming
>>739201704It's amazing they can even play them at all. Considering most of the time they're absorbed in toddler shit like an assassins creed or baldur's gate.
>>739207117You can literally see the simulated watercolor when you zoom inIt's trying to look 2D by painting over 3D models, and it doesn't blend in well with the 3D environments
>>739208268Unlike our contrarian masterpiece. Pffft. Fucking retard
Concerted effort to shill one game in a series over a decade. It's a /v/shit record but its autism is overlooked under the Nintendo flag
>it's actually having such a meltdown that it has resorted to spamming on cool down
>>739207650>there is the narrative of shulk and dunban losing fioraYeah fuck the rest of the people in the Colonies, right? They got Fiora back so we can let bygones be bygones.>DUNBAN YOU CAN'T KILL MUMKHAR HE'S A HOMS WHAT IF HE WAS FIORA KILLING A HOMS IS WRONG EVEN THOUGH HE ATTACKED OUR COLONY MADE US THINK HE KILLED FIORA AND KILLED THE EMPEROR IT'S NOT RIGHT
>>739207715Thing is Xenosaga in many ways looks less "real" than Xenoblade, it's comical the rationalizations people come up with when they should just say they just don't like the new character designsLook at these spaceships, they look like they are made of cheap plastic. The vehicles in Xenoblade 1 already look miles more "real" than this, and you can't even claim it's due to hardware power because that game came out on the fucking wii
>>739207117>And frankly you would have to be very disingenuous to say that the plastic toy looking ships, mechs, weapons, etc from Xenosaga 1 and 2 are good 3d modelingThey are 3D modelingFor the time they were goodThe point is that they weren't trying to simulate 2DThey are visually consistent games where the characters fit with the environment unlike XB2 and 3
>>739207489All the Witcher games look better than TrailsshitEven Witcher 1
>>739208610AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>739208509>For the time they were goodNo they weren'tIn fact they were so relentlessly shit on that they changed the visual style with every game trying to find something that workedShion looks like a completely different person in every Xenosaga title>They are visually consistent gamesSee above
>>739208610How can they look good? They look like generic western fantasy characters? They don't even look remotely stylized or anything close to a fairy tale cartoon book. It's like they actually said >yeah make them look real, that will be a good enough
>>739207434I found Shulk and Rein dynamic interesting Also enjoyed Dunban and his dynamic with Shulk and FiorungDikson was an interesting character, too bad his end was rushed Then again I played the game with the Jap voices, and I know that the english voice ruined Dunban's personalityMy problem with Xenoblade 1 was the ending felt like a copout and some things weren't resolved wellIf I were in charge Mumca would have had a bigger role for one and wouldn't have gone down half-way into the game
>>739207957You sound like a Nintendo manchild that cries on youtube when a new Mario game is announced
>>739192156Wii version has a damage calculation bug which means if a weapon can do 500-1000 damage, in reality of can only do 500-600. Always base value +100. Really fucks things up.I assume this must've been fixed for the Switch version. I THINK it was already fixed for the 3DS version.Regardless of how you choose to play, take this advice: DON'T DO ANY SIDEQUESTS UNLESS YOU'RE STUCK AND NEED EXPERIENCE. Every single sidequest is terrible. Precisely 6 sidequests in the entire game have any sort of payoff aside from XP, and even they aren't that important. If you do all the sidequests you'll be so overleveled it ruins the game.Monolith is so bad at XP balance that future games in the series allow you to arbitrarily reduce your level on demand to unfuck the game.
>>739209056>nintendo manchildNope, I don't give a rat shit about dumbfuck franchises mario zelda or pokemon. I already played the extent of what they could offer 20 years ago. My switch is a xenomachine and sometimes bravely default. kekaroo!
>>739208037You wish CrossfaggotThe best Cross song is worse than the weakest TriggerIn fact most of the okayish Cross songs are just Trigger remixes, reuse a ton of motifs from TriggerIt's so lazy and it's clear that Mitsuda blew his load on Trigger and didn't have many good ideas after that
>>739209192Also bravely default looks better than most modern games as well. There's no real competition on the market.
>>739208497>Shulk's character can't develop over the course of the game because IT JUST CAN'T OKAY
>>739209239>There's no real competition on the market.yea jRPGs kinda dead now, no wonder clair obscur got goty in everywhere. last persona game was like 10 years ago, last tales game was 2001 and it was bad, last good final fantasy game was 20 years ago or 14 mmo. SMTVV is okay tho and it is fresh or something.
>>739209747>e33 Ugly ass game.
>>739208647Cope tranny>>739208846Realism looks goodGet fucked
>realism looks good
>>739208696>No they weren'tYes they wereFor PS2 standards they were good>See aboveNigger are you retarded?I said they were visually consistent, as in the character models were visually consistent with the environments and the characters looked like they belong to that world and blended inThe games looked visually coherent which you can't say about XB2/3
>>739209794yea nothis days all jrps are shit, some degenerate dragon quests remakes, oktopats, some 2.5 pixel shit, indie cheap shitand there are clair obscure, visually looking good, with ff8-style characters and monsters. i mean even if this game is not about visuals - it looks very nice.
>>739209192It doesn't matterYou are the same as them anyways
>>739209794It looks better than any Xenoblade game or any modern anime game
>it's still seething
>>739209239>Bravely Default looks goodNintrannies everybody
>>739209975The writing and characters in clair obscur were dogshit that only normalfag subhumans and the marketing interns pretended to like.
>>739209893You are a virgin
>>739210182>he thinks virgin is an insult on 4chanAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Xenoblade wiimote>People pretending they played fucking XenosagaNigger what's next, was Soma Bringer the last good Monolith game?
>>739210158>xenocuck calling anyone a subhuman You self-insert as manlet Rex, because you're an incel irl
>>739192156The lack of expert mode or some kind of XP limiter kinda ruins it the more you play it, you either can't engage with the side content or else you are going to blitz your way through fights by the mid point.
>>739210268>he's quadrupling down on mertiless offsite "insults" You do realize those are only ever used here as tongue in cheek jokes to mock the retards who actually lend them credence. Don't you?
>>739210260Yeah people played old games, you zoomer nintroon
>>739210158>characters are badas in any jrpg games, you have 2 main characters like Verso and Maelle, they are nice, and you have some little ones. as in every jrpg game>bad writingthis is not even a thing, this is twitter/reddit meme
this nigger is big mad
>>739210104>Bravely Default launches exclusively not on PS5Geeeez I wonder who’s behind this post
>>739210335It's not my fault women find you repulsive
I'm Rex but female
>>739210336Xenosaga got cancelled precisely because nobody was playing it.
>>739210419>he actually thinks 3DPD has value on 4chanthis has been hilarious. some really interesting insight to the post 2022 tourist
>bravely default gameslooked nice and stylish>octopath gameslooks bad as sega gamesi wonder why did they killed theyr character designer
>>739210472>Xenosaga got cancelled precisely because nobody was playing it.i wonder why, maybe because xenosaba was boring inconsistent shit, with lore dupms behind the screen all the time.
>>739210518good and beloved things can't last forever.
>>739209893A little bit of realism is good. I mean water and trees gotta look like water and trees to us after all. We associate those things with good feelings unless you almost drowned or got hit by a big branch or something.
>>739210413Not a snoy by any means but you new nintranny weebs have the most appalling taste everBravely Default art style is insanely ugly
>>739192156Wii is the best version. Ignore all the XC2 coomers that insist the game is better in their garbage uguuu art style.
>>739210472Yeah must be why they made 3 games for it in one console life cycleGive me a fucking break dude
>>739210809de is better simple as
>>739210901Is wiifag going to be the new schizo shitposter that tries to derail threads? God I hope not. We already have sincere normalfags and two other flavors of cancerous trash as it is already.
>>739210472XS1 was the highest selling xeno game till the Switch. Odd that Namco considered it a sales disappointment, 1.25 million sales is respectable in 2002 especially when xenoblade was considered a surprise sales success at < 1 million sales. I guess those CG cutscenes weren't cheap.
>>739210901>de is betterif you're a troon
>>739210848They made 3 games because Namco bought a an entire studio and gave them enough funding for multiple games before they even put anything out because Takahashi had bulshitted them into believing it was going to be the next Final Fantasy with his grandiose and delusional 6 episode multimedia plan.What did Xenosaga 3 sell, like 200k copies worldwide or something?
>>739210901>>739210971Are you going to stop sucking your own cock, samefaggot?
>>739211103>What did Xenosaga 3 sell, like 200k copies worldwide or something?i think this is because of how shitty was 2
>>739211103tbf namco fucked up saga after 1 so that's not really on takahashi
>>739192723pathetic
>>739211134>e-everyone against me is one personHoly moly.
>>739210987>XS1 was the highest selling xeno game till the Switch.Pretty sure that was Gears no?>Odd that Namco considered it a sales disappointment, 1.25 million sales is respectable in 2002That's because they didn'tNamco considered it a success which is why the sequels were greenlitBut then Namco screwed over Monolith with Episode 2 by leaving out much of the stuff written by Soraya and Takahashi which led to Episode 2 being a flop in comparison
>>739211163Nah it's on Takahashi, it's comical how unprepared they were to deliver on what they promised. Episode 1 covers less than half of what they originally planned, and that's with the game already being compromised in multiple ways (lack of music in many parts, horrible cutscene to gameplay ratio, etc)
>>739211284Gears sold a bit over a million but not as much as Saga. Funny that gears/saga had to be truncated while xenoblade was deemed successful enough to continue
>>739211291not really exclusive to xenosaga, SMT DDS and trails in the sky had something similar happen to them. XS1 was still successful, especially for its time. Namco's projections and expectations were off and restructuring the dev team killed XSII and lost all momentum for III
It also needs to be said that once you're sufficiently leveled, not only will they not be challenging, enemies literally will not engage with you anymore outside of scripted fights, so the game becomes a walking sim
>>739198675>(and maybe some people who were particularly into the gameplay)XB1 and X were great because it was an offline MMO and 2 sucked dick because it changed the formula to shitty gacha. Never tried 3 because 2 was bad
>>739192156Definitive edition with ease, it has a myriad of quality of life features, additional content, improved graphics and a complete side story expansion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feNNZyAAa9k
>>739211103They made 3 games because Episode 1 was a successThen Namco fucked over Monolith with Episode 1 leaving out much of the content planned by Soraya and Takahashi which led to 2 flopping3 was only released in Asian and American territories
>>739193215Nah, that stifles what remakes can achieve, you could feel it in the Legacy of Kain remasters, cutscenes, animations, combat and level design had to be consistent with the original game and it suffered because of this.
>>739211240kys
>>739192156This one is one of the few situations where the Definitive Edition is better than the original version.Still, if you want to play the Wii version, prefer the Euro version.
>>739211736You should cool off. Maybe watch some anime. Perhaps something better than dragon ball or cowboy bebop. There's thousands of shows.
>>739211737>prefer the Euro version.wait why?I've never seen anyone mention a reason to go with eu vs ntsc for xb1
>>739211291RetardXS1 was a success selling over a million copies2 and 3 weren't directed by Takahashi(plus 2 cut most of Takahashi's and Soraya's ideas) and what do you know they flopped
>>739211316Probably because they are under the big NBut Xenoblade is only Xeno in name because of Iwata anyways
>>739209232The intro i easily one of the best songs in videogames soundtracks. Trigger has nothing of the sort.
>>739211575>quality of life featurestranny buzzword>improved graphicsfalse, the graphics are inferiorthe lighting is entirely guttedthe animations are worse and missing in some cases
>>739211634This is revisionist as fuck, Namco didn't give an anime and spin-offs to a JRPG that barely clawed to a million sales out of the goodness of their hearts, they did it because Monolith had promised them a multimedia hit with novels and movies and shit, and you can't create a multimedia hit out of modest million seller.The die was already cast when episode 1 came out half baked after an extremely turbulent development, achieving only modest sales and mixed critical reception. People say that episode 2 killed it because it was shit, and it was indeed shit, but episode 1 already wasn't very good and likely the reason why many people didn't bother to come back. Episode 3 is the only genuinely quality game of the three.
>>739211825kys
>>739211737>This one is one of the few situations where the Definitive Edition is better than the original version.No it fucking isn't
>>739211634I thought the issue was that Takahashi yet again planned way too much for the game so it had to be cut down but Xenosaga sales were a disappointment that undersold Xenogears thus they removed Takahashi and for some reason the artist, but that undersold.I'm glad Takahashi ended up at Nintendo, I hope they keep funding his madness.
>>739212020Chrono Trigger intro destroys Cross intro It's not even a contest
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
>>739212053>tranny buzzwords>graphics are inferiorStill no idea why this superior remake creates such a surge of seethe within you people, I'm glad that it sold better than the original release and is the default way that people enjoy and will look back on Xenoblade 1, 1.88 million as of December 2022, probably passed the 2 mil mark by now with the original not even surpassing 1 mil even including 3d.
>>739212186Trigger intro was created after the original release and wasn't an aspect of the original game, but it's the superior game, Cross feels like they wanted to be deep like Xenogears but lacked the chops to actually achieve it.
>>739212286It has literally been one schizo having a meltdown because he hates anime artstyles and everything associated with anime and manga characters and stories. Really weird thing to do on 4chan of all places. He was also probably the subhuman throwing out "virgin" or "incel" as if they were real insults taken seriously. You can't help stupid.
>>739193912If it doesn't get announced at this June direct then it's definitely not happeningConsidering none of the reputable leakmongers have said anything about a 2DE it's probably not happening :(
>>739201150Expert mode is easier because you can stay under leveled, those skills for being lower level than the enemy are fucking broken
>>739212426There's never been an actual Xenoblade leak other than Coleman accidentally talking about 3.
>>739212228AIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE SAVE ME WIIFAG
>>739212489The KOSMOS’ VA updated her portfolio early this year with an unannounced Xeno project, either XC2 DE or XenoWarriors is happening
>>739212391It has to be more than 1 guy, or else he'd be online literally all the time, the replies make it in every thread.
>>739212570I have yet to seen any proof of that shit being real, all we have is a random bilibili chink posting a jpg and saying "trust me bro"
>>739212086What a bunch of fanfiction shit you wroteMeanwhile the facts>The international success of Xenosaga Episode I prompted Namco to offer developer MonolithSoft more support, with Namco's then-Vice President Yoichi Haraguchi to name the company as a valuable development partner alongside Namco Tales Studio.[51]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenosaga_Episode_I#LegacyI mean, are you fucking kidding me?Namco aren't stupid, they knew how much Xenogears soldAnd the anime for Xenosaga wasn't exactly high budgetIt was some cheap 1 cour anime made by ToeiIt's clear what happened hereNamco got greedy and overstepped their boundaries and in doing so fucked over Ep 2
>>739212730The facts is that despite that bullshit statement Namco didn't actually offer any more support, they reduced it. They didn't get another anime, they didn't get another Freaks, they didn't get another Pied Piper. They got a memo saying "you have two more games to wrap this up because we are definitely not doing six of these"
>>739211980that was true until xenoblade 2
>>739192156Wii version has some minor aspects that are better (and that really fucking annoy me that they're not in the remake) but the remake is mostly superior overall.
>>739212148The official explanation is that Takahashi stepped down as directorTo me it was Namco corporate trying to exert more control over the IP
why do some people think a 2 DE is happening? 2 wasn't released at the tail end of a console's life or stuck on a terribly selling console, it's still widely available on the switch (2nd best selling console of all time btw)i could definitely see a switch 2 edition happening, but that's about it. i don't think they would add new content, didn't takahashi say he was finished with the whole klaus thing?
>>739213234patternfags
>>739212286>>739212391>>739212586kys
>>739212351>Trigger intro was created after the original release and wasn't an aspect of the original gameWhat are you fucking talking about?The intro theme was there on SNES
>>739213328I thought you meant the video, no the main theme from Chrono Trigger is not as good as Time's Scar.
>>739192332I don't need to read the thread to know the responses to this is "but muh potato looks ugly!!1" or "Xenoblade was alway animu" tier cope despite Sakurai proving there's nothing wrong with potato>>739192584This.
>>739213234>why do some people think a 2 DE is happening? Because I want it. And a comfy slice of life harem epilogue. Plus Mythra's kid reveal
>>739208912>Fiorung>Mumca
>>739213473>Because I want it.2 is still right there you can literally play it on your switch 2
>>739213234XC2 is monolith's most successful*** game, it follows that people would want a DE after 1/X. That said I would rather it (and 1DE/3) get good switch 2 patches rather than DE versions so those resources can be used elsewhere
>>739213473Fuck off retard.
>>739212856Enough of your bullshit headcanonThe game cost less than 7 million dollars to make, it was developed within 2 years and made Namco its money back several-foldhttps://web.archive.org/web/20020614065818/http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2002/1206.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20020601124246/http://www.mainichi.co.jp/life/hobby/game/sinsaku/2002/10.htmlNamco fucked over the series by screwing over Soraya/Takahashi with Ep 2 buy cutting out most of the plot they wroteThat's what happened
>>739213513It won't have those other things I want though. Plus Switch 2 graphics upgrade. And more QOL features.>>739213683No!
>>739195841This DE is still a mess?
>>739213426>the main theme from Chrono Trigger is not as good as Time's Scar.Time's Scar sounds like a wet fart compared to Chrono Trigger's Main Theme, let's be real hereIt sounds weak as fuck, it doesn't have the strong oomph, it doesn't hit you like Chrono Trigger's theme at all
>>739213486CarnaAlvissOdamaMelia AncientFuck you dubfag
>>739202727Jeremy...
>>739206797Who?
>>739214017None of what you wrote makes any sense.
>>739197564This will shock you but anime = generic looking. Anime can have range in its visual look, more importantly; the anime in Xenoblade doesn't comes from the character design but the tropes present through the adventure
>>739215557I think you mean to say photorealism looks like shit and is a cop out for the lazy and incompetent creative teams.
>>739215672No. I didn't mean that, XB isn't photorealistic just Japanese game design without the tired design cliches when it comes to artstyle which gave it its distinctive visual appeal.
>>739192156>wii version is butt ugly>switch version isnt that plus the improvements to leveling that could trivialize the game are all you really need to know the Switch is the version to play. Or you could be a based retard and play the New 3DS port
>>739192156>Is the Wii version preferred? Absolutely not. Switch is better in every way.
>>739216784>Switch is better in every way.>the once appealing landscapes are now lifelessWii release + HD texture pack is the better way.
>Wiifag has been samefagging all day
>>739192156true niggus will only play the 3ds version.
