The peak of Handhelds?
OP here, what the fuck?I tried to post this
>girl hand>>>SubaruIf only you weren't a lesbian I would ask for you in marriage
>>739198984>>739198882Both my phone and steam deck can run everything on these they're not the peak of anything if they can be emulated with a better experience.
>>739199168Emulation is never a better experience.
>>739199252It is 10 fold for me. Deck sits comfortably in my hands, neither of these do now. I'm an outlier for adult men as I'm 6'7 and my hands are massive, but I don't think the gap between me and your average man is that large. Psp and ds were made with children/teenagers in mind for physical.
God even though I hated both my DS and 3DS growing up because so many of the games were shit to my kid brain except pokemon, and even in adulthood where ive come to appreciate more of the games, theyre still mostly shit beyond their ability to play classic games. It got to the point that by the time I was growing into preteenhood I almost strictly used the GBA slot of my DS.Anyway all this to say that despite hating the DS and 3DS, I miss this comfy form factor so much.
>>739199252Gotta say i'd normally agree but I have to make an exception for the switch. Switch emulation is almost a universally better experience than playing on the real thing.
>>739198882SP was peak
Shame it has no games to actually play though.
>>739199856Hard pressed to think of a classic game that compares to any decent 3DS game.
>>739199252>Emulation is never a better experience.Nah. Usually is so long as your device is competent and not a cheap ass chinkheld or you're dealing with control factors like PS2 pressure sensitivity.
>>739198882it would be if it had oled screens
>>739199252I agree for systems like the 3DS in patrticular. You really need the dual screens. Anything less is anti art
PSP can't play 3/DS games, but can a 3DS play PSP games?
>>739200556It's almost unnoticeable and equally enjoyable 99% of the time but if you can play on original hardware, it's honestly much better.But it's such a minor technical thing that most people wouldn't care and shouldn't spend their money, especially in the scalper market we have today.
>>739199406How big is your dick?
>>739200639I don't get oled on handhelds, miniled would be better no? for brightness.If I'm indoors I just use the TV or monitor which is oled.
>>739200639>oleddead meme
>>7392007482.5 inches hard
nooooo it has to have the oled
>>739199168>phoneshitty ergonomics and distraction since it's a phone>steamdeckoverpriced and too big to be called a handheld
>>739198882Shit battery life, hinge that breaks, bad ergonomics, comically bad pixel density, 3D was a gimmick and 90% of its library was ports/remakes and disappointing sequels to beloved DS franchises. Yeah it can natively play DS games but I'd rather have a DS that can natively play GBA games. In terms of library, DS + GBA > DS + 3DS. >>739198984Mah nigga >>739199168>phoneNo buttons unless you're carrying around a 2nd device to act as a controller. >steam deckNot a true handheld because it doesn't fit in your pocket.
>>739199168Yes, which is why 3ds is the peak because it cannot be emulated better on anything, Thus proving OP's point.
>>739200734Well there's a lot of things to consider really. Not everyone can go out and buy a CRT for retro consoles, or get flashcarts since actually getting physical copies is a crapshoot for many games nowadays. Sometimes you might buy a PS2 off of Ebay and then have to hunt for cables or controllers. A lot of individual things that enthusiasts or collectors might love, but the individual will have a lot of pains to fulfill. Then you got emulation experiences, and RPCS3 and PCSX2 can be finicky bitches with little quirks to deal with or micro stutter pauses on saving things, but other systems you'll just slot a game in and you're off to the races with virtually no issues.I'd say authenticity is a taste matter rather than an inherent quality beyond controllers the games were intended for. And sometimes to even hope to play many of these games, you gotta make some compromises or pay out the wazoo for authenticity. Plus, honestly you get some games like Star Fox Zero which just play like dogshit without using an emulation to button-bind the right stick trick commands.
>>739198882I just wish Nintendo didn't abandon the true portable line and at least made something in the line of the Game Boy Micro, small, good battery life, no-nonsense.
>>739198882hingehelds have a shorter shelf life, they will never be peak.
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>>739201435What i miss the most is the price points. I want to see games back at the 30-40 dollar price point for smaller brand new titles. Let series like fire emblem be smaller lower budget series, let there be lower budget top down zeldas, leave the console for the next big thing. This gives buying options and makes everyone happy.
>>739201515cant even play the consoles best game.
>>739200748Slightly above average at 7 inches. I also wear a size 17 US shoe.
>>739201718NTA but I literally played SMT4 and 4a exclusively on emulator and had no issues. What are the glitches listed?
>>739200748this isn't me >>739201765 I already answered here >>739200916
>>739201718you've been able to play the game perfectly fine for a while now, as per usual people are dogshit at updating compatibility lists
>>739201835from what i remember certain death effects look wrong and squared off, sprites and animations dont appear correctly. things like that. Also massive slow downs.
>>739201836Stop being retarded thanks
>>739201558Oh absolutely, and the backwards compatibility along with rehashed older console games made it just a wonderful all-round and affordable experience.
>>739201932OOO the death animations in 4 had a black bg show up on all of them. I didn't have the issue in 4a iirc.
>>739202045Why are you using inspect element to lie to people about my dick size? I'm proud of my 2.5 incher.
>>739202045Thanks for proving that you are an imposter. Stop stealing proud deckies identities. We already get enough crap as it is. Don't make me post a title screen.
>>7392020874A was always fine. not perfect but fine
>>739202176I don't think you can inspect element on a phone, which the sceeenshot is clearly from. >>739202180Seething tendie
>>739202239>mobile postingfurther proof that you don't own a deck, and are pretending to be that anon. Those of us in the master race would never.
>>739202370Wrong again, you tried though.
>>739202370Thanks for backing me up anon. I factually have a small cock. I'm gay too.
>>739201176>hinge that breaksWhat the fuck kind of abuse are you putting it through? You're probably one of those niggers that throws their discs on the table or the floor.
>>739202461You're so ass blasted it's unreal. Should save all that tendie seethe for the upcoming famitsu threads.
>>739200556>muh pressure sensitivityTriggers. You can remap buttons to triggers and get the same experience, or just straight up plug a Dualshock 3 into your PC for PCSX2.
>>739202176>>739202239>>739202370This board needs IDs.
>>739200781tasteless faggot
>>739202443this proves nothing other than you are a mobile poster, therefore you cannot be a deckie>>739203097seriously, the gall of these tendies to pretend to be part of the master race while posting from their phone in brazil
>>739203410>le ironic shitposting
>>739203476>lego back
>>739198984The cold harsh truthIt was so good that sony did everything they possibly could to fuck it over and ruin custom firmware
>>739198882wrong
>>739203713All the vita games that mattered got ported eventually. It makes you wonder why they even made PSP to begin with. It really just didn't have any good or unique games and its best usecase was for shit like music.
>>739201515My nigga!Stupid butt hurt Nintendies are coping and seething in this thread!
>>739200310It can play all generations of Nintendo handheld games, natively.
>>739203848>It makes you wonder why they even made PSP to begin withUMDsSony was hoping to make their proprietary format into the next big thing that other companies would start using because of the pre-existing userbaseIronically they would later do something similar with Blu-Ray and the PS3
>>739199252>turbo>savestates>cheats>digital rom storage>modded roms>multi-instance multiplayer>manual savegame management>shadersEmulator is always a better experience once mature enough
>>739204476This format was never going to work, they must be retarded. DvDs and Blu Rays worked because you watch movies with your family on them in the living room, on a big screen. A psp is something you pull out to kill time in most cases.
>>739198984Nice portstation
>>739204636>A psp is something you pull out to kill time in most cases.Yeah, but remember, this is JapanMost of them have 30ish minutes twice a day on a train where they have nothing to doIf Sony could make UMD popular, then other companies would make movies, anime, hentai, etc. that you could watch on the commuteAnd a company would feel more confident adopting UMD if they knew they had a built-in userbase of gamers with devices already
>>739202661Stop pretending to be me
>>739198882>wasting resources that could have improved performance on a shitty gimmickNo. It had good games, but hardly any made real use of the second screen and the 3D was a joke. Nintendo hasn't made an acceptable piece of hardware since the gamecube.
>>739204618>>savestatesInto the trash it goes
>>739205179>he enjoys waiting for loading times and menus watching and intro splash screens instead of literally just loading the game exactly the way he left it
>>739203410>>739203097You know, you can call out shit takes without knowing they all come from the same IP address.
>>739198882Switch lite>>>>
>>739205295Yes, skipping all of that is tantamount to not beating the game.
>>739206189>posted from my retroonachievements accountSorry but I refuse to waste 5 minutes waiting for a game to boot up.
DOESN'T ANYBODY KNOW OF A GOOD AND RELIABLE ONLINE 3DS REPAIR SERVICE?!?!?
>>739198882>7" screen 120hz oled>plays all consoles>even plays indie games and old pc titlestake the chinkheld pill>but android has input lagget rocknix
>>739204636It was cool to have high quality movies, much much better than those shitty GBA carts with two episodes of something that looked like ass.
>>739198882i hate the fact that nintendo stopped making handhelds>but le switcha flimsy, overpriced piece of shit that is not portable nor handheld
>>739206552It will be too easy to take the chinkpill once we get SteamOS for Arm64 public. But for now Rocknix with Steam support is pretty damn good between Proton & Fex. If you don't have Rocknix it ain't worth it since you have to use shady ass Fex (valve made software) wrappers like GameNative/GameHub or whatever the fuck it is called which is definitely stealing everything. I was poking around the public repositories for SteamOS Arm64 two days ago and saw they are directly working with the MESA team to do custom 8 Gen 3 drivers. So any chinkheld on that chip is about to get fucking WILD performance.
>>739198984This has one of the worst gaming libraries imaginable. It's literally a Visual Novel machine because that is the majority of it's games.
>>739198882Is that some Indian knockoff of Ayn Thor?
>>739210716I wanted to love this thing. Perhaps it is better if there is Rocknix for it now but man it has to be the worst Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 I've rented from a retailer for free. On paper it is perfect but it is surprisingly uncomfortable to use compared to the new 3DS XL. Hoping that the SteamFrame will be a better portable emulation device.
>>739210859No manner of 3DS is comfortable, I don't believe you for a second.
>>739210509It has some standout gamesMHPhantasy StarA lot of stuff that got ported to other systemsActually I guess it didn't have that much after all
>>739198882It's a pretty good handheld. Wish it emulated PS1 better though.
>>739210951My launch 3DS certainly isn't comfy but my new3DS XL (paid 70 bucks from target clearance) is extremely comfortable. The edges on the Thor are harsh and the layout while similar feels cramped.
>>739198882In terms of library absolutely. I even enjoyed the 3D. After thinking about it a bit, if you include DS with 3DS, it even surpasses the legendary GBA library. It is a shame the resolution was so low though. But even with the resolution I enjoyed the bigger screen on the last XL model. Clamshell handhelds are kino, we need more.
>>739198882>>739198984God I love and miss handhelds. I wish I had focused on their libraries more over the years.I've been playing a lot of MH4U lately, and I'm actually choosing to play it on my N3DS instead of emulating because I love the feeling so much. Even considering the inconvenience of breaking to charge it, and frequently readjusting my left hand on the circle pad (and that's with a grip), it's just fun to play on.The PSP is easily the most comfortable handheld to hold though, personally. I love those big buttons.>>739200061>>739203810I've come to the realization that while it has good games, with my loss of interest in Pokemon since back then I'm just not impressed with the library.
>>739198882i know it is a poor argument but even the ebay price proves iti have a small n3ds but really regretting about not getting the XL/LL one
>>739198984Problem is the library makes the N64/GC look good so it cannot be the best handheld.
>>739210970I've went through the psp video on this channel like twice on like x8 speed. There's too many VNs it's insane. Barely got any games I'd be interested in. Great channel for finding games.https://www.youtube.com/@VirtualGamingLibrary/playlists
>>739198882No, just red flag of absolute homosexuality
>>739210859It needs the grip you can buy for it
>>739210130>8 Gen 3 drivershope that trickles down to gen 2 cause that's what all the handhelds are on
>>739198882This little guy has been with me since 2011. I still occasionally play DS and GBA games on it.
>>739212632>didn't even post the picI'm dumb
How much are retards buying 3DSs for nowadays? I haven't touched my XL since the rxtools days. Once streetpass died and emulation became good enough I never looked back
>>739206552This thing is more expensive than any console here. More expensive than a Steam deck.
>>739212896have you looked at the 3ds xl prices recently?a clean one is going to cost you atleast 160might aswell spend 100 more and get something that can do it all
>>739212704Maxwell?
>>739199168i bought a 3ds (the only console i have for now) because of the two screens. (also the 3ds is kind neat)
>>739198882My only issue with the N3DSXL has been the lack of grip. I don't know why they went with the extra slippery glossy shit on the outside, but I wound up buying a handle grip for mine because of it.
>>739198882>just close it down>console is in sleep and both screens protectedI miss this design so fucking much!
>>739213116>the bottom screen actually scratches the top screen from pressure over time naturally if you don’t put a buffer between the twoI don’t
>>739213214>from pressure over time>naturallyNot that anon but stop sitting on them
>>739213330I never have, but both my original XL and my N3DS have wear in the same spot from that. I did carry them around in my front pocket a lot, and I'm sure I even gripped them a little too hard from time to time when carrying them in hand while folded.Thankfully it's not noticeable while playing.
>>739210130I suffered enough FEX to understand it will take a lot more than drivers to save ARM>>739213214>>739213330I have never pocketed the thing and both o3DS and XL did it.
>>739198882>>739198984The 3DS with the PSVs build quality would be amazing. The closest we got is the AYN thor but its still very cheaply made compared to any Playstation handheld
>>739213451>I'm sure I even gripped them a little too hard from time to timeYeah dude that was obvious when you used the word pressure. I laughed so hard when I got to the word naturally though, like come on.>>739213485>I have never pocketed the thing and both o3DS and XL did it.You did it somehow, it requires quite a bit of force to achieve that. I still have my New 3ds and no issues because I'm not a brute.
>>739213619>when you used the word pressureI'm not the same guy, but it's mostly due to time spent in jean pocket pants. I don't know if I'd use the word "naturally" like everyone is going to have this problem, but it's not an uncommon occurrence. I've seen it mentioned quite a bit over the years.
>>739213619Fuck off, I babied the two pieces of crap on my desk, didn't even use charging docks. The bottom frame is made to scratch the top screen.
>>739198882That's NDS and PSP as complement.
>>739198882yes unfortunately. shame the dedicated handheld era is definitively over. it's like watching practical effects replaced with cgi slop. >>739206552>>739210716i went through my chinkheld cycle too. they're just gay though and i've gone back to all my old games on the original hardware. emulation is still based though. if you need the real red pill on chinkslop just look at plebbit every post is some brown hand posting their epic gaming session on their thor. it's slop for literal africans
Yes!
>>739213485>I suffered enough FEX to understand it will take a lot more than drivers to save ARMNonsense. That is literally the only missing piece. The Mesa team is community driven and unpaid. There are literally NO first party drivers for gaming. Valve is bankrolling some for a specific chip. Once we have ANY drivers instead of NO drivers things will radically improve.
>>739198882>mogs you
>>739199406>>739200556Native will be always superior than running a second layer of programs over your OS. Mod is a non issue since you can hack your handheld console to run the modded isos/rom for the undub or QoL/restoration games.
>>739213841plays his theme too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtSJKKAc7JEI wish the classic games got DS/3DS ports, the COMP being the bottom screen with the top being the first person view would be peak
>>739214043I got the metal one. Can't wait. Replacing my Miyoo Mini with this kino.
>>739214043>meme flip design >chinesium plastic so it will eventually break>that aspect ratio>no analogsmogs nothing
>>739214043>no stick>no headphone jack>battery lasts for like 2 hours
>>739203097Too obvious, redditor
I got picrel recently and it's surprisingly nice for the price.
>>739200061I miss this lil guy like you wouldn't believe. I was in college when they put these out. I absolutely could not believe having an SNES in my hand! This thing was magical. I had the original Game Boy as a kid... but this was next level to me.
>>739214043why the fuck did they not put this kind of power in the rgds, the thing with actual analog stickswho's going to play GC/PS2 games on dpad
>>739198882Let me guess, you need more?I really only got it for GBA/SNES emulation; pleasantly surprised at how fucking good the screen is for the price, but it is a little small for my caveman hands
>>739215250Yes. I needed more but it served me well for a long while. I bought the plus in both purple & retro. Took the dpad/start/select/options button from the purple and put it in my retro and returned the purple so I could have all matching black buttons and it looks glorious. But the Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini is just objectively superior in every way and about the same size. Plus it is more comfy. I still play the Miyoo Mini Plus sometimes. Might give it to my Niece who keeps swiping my sister's Mini Plus (she got one too independent of mine which is weird).
>>739215489How's the Pocket Air Mini? It was on my shortlist as well, but went with something basic just to see how much use out of it I got. Can it emulate PS2/GC reliably?
as someone who unironically uses the 3d feature, n3ds is something irreplaceable at the moment
>>739215592>How's the Pocket Air Mini? It was on my shortlist as well, but went with something basic just to see how much use out of it I got. Can it emulate PS2/GC reliably?Gamecube absolutely except the heaviest of games. PS2? I mean some work, but not all. I haven't really tried many because PS2 is always psychotically demanding due to all the emulators being abandoned for 2 decades. Gamecube will require doing things like setting the backend to Vulkan, enabling "dual core," and checking "compile shaders before start" which is kinda standard for any chinkheld. I would go for the 3GB model personally. Haven't seen a game that doesn't run at 60FPS for GC yet but I also haven't tried Rogue Squadron or anything like that. I just finished a run through of Paper Mario and it was locked at 59-60 the entire playthrough if that helps.I absolutely love it. There apparently is a bit of a lottery on the panel, maybe. It has a bit of ghosting like all low cost handhelds but it doesn't suffer over-sharpening at the firmware level like Anbernic mercifully. Allegedly people are getting Switch games running on this badboy but I don't believe them: https://github.com/CyberYellowNinja/Pocket-Air-Mini-Ultimate-GuidePic for size comparison since I brought it up here: >>739215489Honestly it is an incredible device. It is a bit bigger. I love mine. I don't see a need to ever upgrade from here. Anything heavier I'd wait for Valve's custom Mesa drivers (Snapdragon 8 Gen 3) to hit the scene and get a chinkheld running that chipset. Otherwise you're just pissing away money. Don't have much interest in going higher. Handheld is just for chilling and fucking off at work for me. I am holding out hope that we get Rocknix ported to it so we can really push this baby to the extreme.
>>739199252It really depends on the type of person you are. Maybe you want 100% perfect preservation of a landmark game in its original release state, because to you, that is the purest, most authentic experience. You're not playing the new Switch 2 Ocarina of Time, you're not playing it on NSO, you're not playing the Wii U Virtual Console version, you're not playing Ocarina of Time 3D, you're not playing the Wii Virtual Console version, you're not playing the Zelda Collection version, you're not playing the GameCube port with Master Quest, you're not even playing the English version. You'll only want to play the Japanese v1.0 physical cartridge on a real N64 with a real controller on an enthusiast CRT and enthusiast speakers.And then you have the guy playing the PC port made from a decompilation, running at 8k 240 fps with various mods and saying this is the definitive version.
>>739216563>>739215592The device is so insanely comfy and feels way too premium for how little I paid (under 80). If you need a case definitely get the official one as it is an eva hard case molded to the devices size perfectly. No sliding around. Very slim. I keep it on the exterior small pocket on my backpack so I needed one (I toss my bag around a lot between work and home). The console has effectively perfect standby time which isn't always a given for chinkhelds. You don't need to worry about the battery obliterating itself when you turn it off overnight like the Switch 2 or Steamdeck luckily. The only real issue with the device is some people are seeing bad motion blur. My unit however has about the same as the Miyoo Mini Plus v1 has, which is to say not enough for me to notice while casually playing gamecube/gba/ps1 games which is primarily what I play on it. I'd give PS2 a shot and tell you but this thread will be long gone by the time I setup the emulator and drag some roms over.
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