Which is the king?
It’s left 4 dead.Why? Because I said so and my opinion is fact because I’m the main character of this story
At least in DRG every single enemy isn't designed around pinning you to the floor while someone else comes rescue you. Shit "forced" coop design. In the rare event it happens in DRG you just fucked up really bad.
Its always gonna be L4D2. It's gonna be a long time before that's changed.Deeprock, Helldivers, B4B, Payday 1 2 and 3, KF 1 2 and 3, Darktide, Vermintide, EDF......can't beat the king.
>>739212464DRG has more content and and deeper gameplay. That said it has a huge grind that you really feel after a while. L4D is simpler but more comfy, shame the versus mode is cancer.
>>739212597>SmokerSlice tongue or use cover to block tongue>HunterShove>ChargerStrafe>JockeyJust keep backing up until he lands and then instantly shove him.It can be difficult but that's what makes the difference between a great game and a legendary game. Higher skill ceiling where you can bulldoze enemies vs "just shoot him until they are dead" enemies, take your pick.
hand crafted maps > rng-slopjust was updated today btw
>>739212464Payday 2.
>>739213018PayforDLCday 2
>>739212992claimed the game for free but never played. qrd?
>>739213063You expect them to update the game for a decade for free?
>>739212992Is it actually a complete game now? I remember it was released way too soon and felt like early access.
>>739213147You realize you're in a fucking Left 4 Dead 2 thread right
>>739212664I recently (like a few months ago) played all the campaigns with a few of my friends and we had a blast. And I rarely like the friendslop coop genre of games. I wanted to redo some campaigns but by the end of it everyone was sick of it understandably, we spent like 20+ hours collectively on all the content from l4d1 and 2
>>739213608>You realize you're in a fucking Left 4 Dead 2 thread rightAre you seriously pretending that L4D2 has recieved anywhere near the support or content of Payday 2 over the last decade?Fucking retard.
>>739213092its l4d but with very light rpg elements and wrpg fantasy instead of modern guns (there are guns but its warhammer)the game is very easy until you hit at least legend and, sadly, you have to do some progression until you unlock them (idk why fatshark continues to make this mistake)>>739213542all classes released (20) all reasonably well balanced even at highest difficulties32 maps, 30 of which are good, many of which are amazingtons of weapons and builds to pick frombest melee combat>>739213542>I remember it was released way too soon and felt like early access.typical fatshark retarded dev cycle: release something horrible and fix it 5+ years later, this is why i told, and still tell, everyone to avoid darktide, its in a very rough spot atm but im starting to see where it can go if they fix a few things
>>739213147Sort of like drg?
L4D2 is the Vampire Survivors of co-op shooters (derogatory)
>>739212464L4D2 if you're a poor third worlder and can't afford or run anything else.DRG if you have no friends and are afraid to communicate with strangers.Vermintide 2 if you're willing to endure Fatsharts incompetence marring an otherwise brilliant game.Payday 2 if you can actually communicate and use creamAPI or were smart enough to buy everything when it was cheap as fuck.Personally if you don't have a couple of hundred of hours in all of them you're really doing yourself a disservice, they're all great.
>>739212992>hand crafted hallways that you run down a million timesso fun
>>739213815>typical fatshark retarded dev cycle: release something horrible and fix it 5+ years later,Good to know they fixed it up then. Are there any required DLC's or can I just jump in with the base game?
>>739214003>rng slop hallways that you notice actually just repeat in under 100 hours, its not even complete proc-genwow amazing!
>>739214003ye thats what games are
>>739214031no you dont need any dlc, buy it later if you like the base gameyou can play all the maps, including dlc ones if they're hosted but you wont be able to host a dlc map yourself nor can you play as dlc class until you buy it
>>739213018>Shilling Payday 2Aren't you a good goy?
>>739212464Despite DRG's post-launch support being a colossal monumental failure, the 1.0 release is still in there and able to be fully enjoyed by newcommers and veterans alike, so for that alone it is objectively better, even if every single veteran is extremely bitter about the devs currently.
>>739214031>Are there any required DLC's or can I just jump in with the base game?Just jump in with the base game, you can mooch DLC maps off the host. If you find yourself sinking a ton of time into it then grab whatever DLC tickles your fancy, or dlc classes etc
>>739214147>Aren't you a good goy?No i'm a terrible goy that's done prison time for my anti-semitsm and will gladly do more.>crying about e-celeb DLC that's long since been removed because no one likes kikesTop fucking sozzle.
>>739214003That's why modding will always be the sign of an elite gaming community.You buy the game and it comes with a batch of campaigns that are guaranteed quality.Want more? Play campaigns made by players and rate them up and shit. It's the best method.I do enjoy the unpredictability of generated maps but they'll never have soul.
how is this?
>>739212464Hasn't really been mentioned, its not insanely important either, but L4D1 and 2's character writing and designs are amazing.Most of the characters have dozens of quotable lines and have even generated memes. And the specials look awesome. The L4D Boomer is a more iconic and well made design than anything from DRG, and the Boomer is one of the lesser interesting special infected.
>>739214516its okay, a bit shallow and missing a lot of stuff it feels likei had fun making a high movement speed build and breaking the game, ill give it another go as more stuff releases
DRG is probably most fun and has infinite potential but they dont do much with it
>>739214516Helldivers 2 clone that fixes Helldiver's combat avoidant design, but comes at the cost of not having stratagems with the most satisfying and best feeling explosions known to gaming.For the asking price you are guaranteed your money's worth, but only just, as there isn't much content yet, and while you can grind prestiges for a few hundred hours if you like it that much, the average player isn't going to do that.
>>739212992like a white woman who had a taste of bbc, i literally can't go back to vermintide after playing darktide (hehe)
>>739212929>shit>shit>shit>shithorrible to deal with and designed around vs. which makes them extra shit. Best thing DRG has going for it is NOTHING is designed around "we have to be fair to the enemy team" horseshit.
>>739216437t. never learned to skeet hunters and rage quit over it
>>739216631It's just not a good game, bro
>>739216672you're bitching that survivors aren't more overpowered than they already are in vanilla l4d2the one who isn't good is you, "bro"
>>739216707It has nothing to do with "overpowered." It has everything to do with "4 elite enemies can't disable your entire fucking team."Do you love having the controls taken away from you or something?
>>739216805>blah blah blah DISABLERSskillissueconfirmed retard doesn't know how to do a basic solo run in a 20 year old game, honestly its sad to see someone so assblasted over a minor skillissue in a completely dead game
>>739216886Yeah I agree, fuck "disablers"bad game design
>>739212464L4D2>has story>has coop>has pvp>has mods, aka free cosmeticsDRG>story? what's a story?>lore is that we dig for our corpos, that's it, shut up>4 classes, cool weapons, cool customization for weapons>a couple of mission types and mission modifiers>procedurally generated levels>somehow manages to be burnout inducing and repetitive in less than 20 hoursDRG isn't really a good competitor or comparison,I'd rather compare L4D2 to Pay Day 2, which sadly still loses to L4D2The great irony about a criminal heist game is that the devs do a criminal heist on their customers with those shitty DLC prices, and the fact that they even DARE try sell a subscription just pisses me off to no end
>>739212929>t. playing on easy/normal modeOn either advanced or expert difficulty, the infected AI acts like what a real versus player would be. Getting pinned is inevitable (mostly by Jockey).
>>739212992vt2d is a perfect example of why hand crafted maps arent inherently good. igaf if vt2 maps are hand crafted 90% of them are boring as hell in your first playhtrough
>>739212929>cut smoker tongue with axe>chase after the smoker>spam the laugh
>>739212992but anon, vt2 does have rng-slop, they have a dedicated fun game mode for it even
>>739212464No white person has ever played deep rock galactic, so we may never know.
>>739216972>no specials in a horde shooterpeople like this don't deserve the right to vote, if live at all
>>739212464Titanfall 2's Frontier Defense mode for meSimple but great gameplay with room for experimenting with different styles
>>739214304just checked and sadly you can still buy it
>>739212464Games are nothing alike other than fps
>>739212464Both are incredibly boring. vermintide 2 and darktide are marginally better because they actually have fun combat but they're still extremely repetitive.
>>739220967DRG managed to have dozens of "specials" and almost none are cheapshotting "pin the player down until help arrives" bullshit.
coop games are so boring
>shitter still assblasted about getting hunteredlmao
