>*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*
>>739212807
ngl shitting on this game got old fastwhat's the next flopslop to doompost next? last flag already died before living lol
>>739213054mixtape
>>739213054
>>739213054there is that one horizon game coming out
Send apologies to 313 KYS Boulevard
>>739213054Concordia 7
5 seasons plannedchuds lostblaster won
>>739213831>5 seasons plannedI love that actual retards are using this as some kind of 'see, it didn't flop' cope. Not you anon, I know your just shitposting
>>739213831>planned heh
>>739214617..surprisebros....it's over..
Got in an argument with my "friend" over politics and it boiled into him just being a disrespectful faggot and running away acting "disappointed" in me after shouting me down and flaming me the whole night, all because he couldnt back up his argument with anything but pure emotion. God im fucking mad.
>>739214617Can't wait for the new warden next month, bros!...bros?
>>739212807Are we under 10k yet or what. I remember the Matrix Online got shut down when it got to 10k players
>>739214956no
>>739214806anon, this a Wendy's.>>739214956Not yet, and it would've been tonight if it wasn't patch day.
>>739212807All they needed was a cool single player game.They're fucking bungie, i'm pretty sure they know how to make these.
>>739214956they'll keep this artificially propped up just like the corpse of Destiny 2 for no other reason than just to pretend it didn't flop and to extract money from the small group of troon/soi whales
>>739213054Their server wipe and attempt to graft PVE is coming . >>739213459Fairgames or Horizon. >>739214956Peaks just above 10, falling below 4k. They'r shutting down ranked early to prevent complete collapse. We should see peaks below 10k this week. >>739215084They meetooed and hollowed out their talent.
>>739215106>>739215039In a way this is good. Concord is literally just another parasite bleeding Sony dry while they continue to felt themselves with their insane >no Ghosts of Yotei for PCcope.The Horizon hero-shooter, is that going to be playstation only? That's going to be another few hundred millie burned.
>>739215342>We should see peaks below 10k this weekPure delusion. Today was your last chance and it's over. You Lost.
>>739215529There are only two groups of people who have lost related to Marathon:>Sony (for paying for this shit)>Marathon shills and supporters (for being stupid enough and having bad enough taste to defend this flop game)Anons in these threads are the winners, and so is Bungie because they're still getting paid.
>>739215425Snoy deserves it for the jap boomer tier out of touch shit, going all-in on DEI-coded live service slop like this. I can perfectly picture the boardroom discussions:>the kids love the fort nights and royal battles, we need to do that! Make more "extra shooters" and put in lots of live services! The marketing consultants in America say the main characters should be fat lesbians of color too!
>>739215616Hey, if Bungie actually pulls a FF online and fixes the thing so it's a good game, I consider that a win. If they lose money every month on top of the biggest most arrogant bomb of the year, I'm fine with that too.
>>739215708Hey, this was Hulst and the US side that shut down studio japan, and went west coast woke.
>>739215867>current bungie pulling a realm reborn moveeven if that happens, it would take them years judging by the pace it took them to make marathon in the first place
>>739214824I wish the game had stayed alive long enough for her
>>739215867For Bungie to make a profit on Marathon at this point, they would have to sell something around 8 million copies at the full $40 price point, or that monetary equivalent in MTX.The game would basically need to do 250k+ CCU on Steam for the rest of the year at least.In the same year where GTA6 is launch in November and where its marketing is going to rape and gape every other game once Rockstar starts the hype train (probably at Summer Games Festival).
>>739215867>>739216001eh, unironically, big western devs are too entitled - and too politicsbrained - to pull off a ARR move. Western AAA gaming loves nothing more than blaming boogeymen for why their bullshit fails, especially if they can link it to the absolute brainrot politics that has taken over the US
>Option A: Stay on the game industry,working long hours on games you dislike, having annoying women screaming at your ears and having to implement the shareholder retarded ideas>Option B: Go to another industry where you get paid double and have more personal time for yourself to play the games you like
oh right this came out
>>739216191Option B is currently very difficult to achieve, so stay in option A or work at the deli in a groccery store
>>739216330Given how much the games got worse, i imagine that everyone that could take option B already did, which is why companies just use UE5 slop.They just don't have programmers that can make their own engine.
>>739216410Haha
>>739216441I think they still have good enough programmers, but making a game engine is so budget intensive and of course there's no proper planning involved. I always blame middle management before i blame programmers
>>739216080Yeah bro!She looks... Awesome...
>>739216410>>739216503>those post times...
>>739216410the true irony here is that swtor is still around, has a 2026 roadmap for planned content, and with a large update at the end of the year for its 15th anniversary
>>739216080>shoulders wider than her hips by a mile>"her"
>>739213054last flag was too fast
>>739214617not to worry, when steoner deploys season 7 the numbers will go through the sky!
>>739214806bro wrong tab this is /v/, youre looking for gcj>>739215425hunters gathering is multiplatform, only single player games stay ps only
>>739215708its not jap boomer fucktard, it was a burger boomer, who is thankfully now gone, and now its herman hulst, they need to sack the whole western branch. theyre fucking cancer.if anything the jp boomers are the ones trying to save things, its a good thing all the live service garbage is flopping this hard because it gives them the excuse they need to red wedding all of the california fucktards, hopefully druckman and naughty dog and the whole sbi apparatus go too
Get hyped for new skins
>>739217884Wow looks cool
>>739216163it cant be reborned for the simple fact that people have told them why the game is flopping and they have doubled, tripled, quadrupled down on it they got the delay and didn't change anything.when this garbage was announced people clearly told them:no live serviceno 40 bucksno heroesno extraction garbageno resetsmake a campaignno triosall they did in the 6 months was rename runners to shells, and fuck all else. Oh, halfassedly added solos and prox chattheyre not going to suddenly make a good campaign/pve experience when it tooks them what 5 years to make 4 fucking maps and reskin 3 destiny enemies
>>739216410Sorry blast havers reality just like your gender doesn't align with what you pretend it to be.
>>739216080That's literally just the goth bitch from NCIS.
>>739217884This shit looks like a Gorrilaz album cover.And no, that's not a compliment.
>>739212807what's marathon about it anywayis it a dick waving contest between duradal's and tycho's cyborgs?
>>739218259kek
Switch 2 port will save it!
>>739219432>this game came out two months ago
>sony burned so much money trying to make Marathon a thing, that they had to raise the prices of ps+lol
WE ARE BLASTING OFF AGAIN... ACK!
Is every live service game doomed to fail no matter what now? Every new game thats a live service gets instantly marked as "the next concord", no matter the genre or artstyle.What a live service game have to do to not sink into the "next concord" category?
>>739220402>ps5 price being so high that many stuck with ps4 for longer than Sony wanted>TLoU live service cancelled>GoW live service cancelled>buying the failure that was Concord>buying the failure that was Bungie>buying Bluepoint only to shut them down without shipping anything (all their games were before Sony owned them)they've been burning money for years
>>739220402no, that was because of the tariff somehow
>>739220756>implying there aren't very blatantly obvious reasons a new live service game gets labeled a concord-like>implying marathon doesn't fit the bill perfectlyretarded or bait? live service games come and go. they always have. not everything is tauted as concord 3, 4, etc. we just so happen to have a bunch of shit, AAA live services releasing in near-tandem
>>739220884Not bait at all. Im just curious.I get that Marathon artstyle is ugly as fuck but its not generic and lame as concord or highguard. What constitute a concord like then? Its not the artstyle or gameplay, what is It? How do they avoid It?
>>739218259are you guys making 100 threads a day, chart posting, and twitter stalking the developers supposed to be the monks not saying anything?
>>739221064>shitty flamboyant western soillenial artstyle>character designs created with HR slampig bog hag karens peering over artist shoulders 24/7>game and studio behind it are soft and clearly pandering to a "modern audience"these are the essence of the concord-like. probably in descending order as they truly do all share the same color palette
>>739217884Genuine question: If they wanted to sell skins why did they make the base art direction of the game so insufferably ugly?
>>739213054horizon or fairgame$
>>739213054more like last fag lol
>>739217884lmao is this real? these look fucking terrible holy hell
>>739220821No. that was because of xbox being big enough losers to not look like competition.>>739220756LOL. You idiot. Marvel Rivals wasn't called concordian. It's coomer power alone was enough. Neither was KF3 or Payday 3, or Skate or BF6 or sonic rumble. >>739221064 Now there's reasonable debate on what's concordian. I think last flag probably shouldn't qualify, but I don't know enough shit about imagine dragons.. It needs to be liveit needs to be bigit needs to be arrogant.And there's a "look" to this shit, which isn't a specific aesthetic.So, something like Squenixes new Amongus game for example doesn't get tossed in, because it's a tiny game.
>>7392130544Loop
>>739221458>Left 4 Dead's designerSo one of the Turtle Rock people? This one's a stinker.
>>739212807If your game needs to make a billion dollars and have 500 000 players 24/7 to be successful, your business model is wrong.
>>739221228You just don't appreciate the design language!
Can you chuds find a new chew toy?
>>739221719release (or announce the death of) Fairgame$ if you want us to move on
>>739221719No, they cancelled Hyenas
>>739221719GAAS means the development, and thus the flop NEVER ENDS!!!
>>739221798I announce it https://voca.ro/1fy4yBXj5piF
>>739221667>Gamers usually dont appreciate ItSo why would you make a game then?LOL
>>739221932
>>739217884Best one there is Shark Recon followed by Assassin
>>739221228Because you are a tastelet bottom feeder mainly
>>739222213How much have you spent on skins so far?
>>739221667I like how it looks but the UX of is difficult in a lot of places, like why cant I see my bag and the shop at the same time? when im buying stuff for a run id like to be able to see what I need to buy.its kinda shitty in that regard but I like the A E S T H E T I C S
>>739219432Allow me to give some more context
>>739212807the new thief bundle is kino, SEASON 2 HYPE
>>7392222310,00
>>739215342imagine being this retarded. first day of end season events saw a 20% bump and it is only bound to go up with cryo ranked. see you at season 2 for a 50-60k peak
>>739222463Is that because the skins are bad, or because your taste is too poor to appreciate them?
>>739222463i spent $400
>>739222514Because unlike this gachanigger infested board, I don't pay for microtransactions. I was calling you a tastelet for calling the aesthetics bad, because you are.And most skins are shit, by the way. They're just recolors because Ziegler's brain was hit with the esports hammer and thought all skins should be recolors with zero changes to silhouettes because "muh competitive gameplay". Thankfully Bungie realized that's a shit strategy and should add more creative skins.
>>739222624this is a clearly a new model
>>739222624The artstyle is fucking ugly mate check your eyes
>>739222686no, it's pure kino
>>739221458I have black woman astronaut fatigueWhy do they keep doing that
>>739222667It's just an identical style jacket over an identical silhouette. It might as well be a palette swap.
>>739217884why does 2/3 of that look like someone's deviantart ?
>>739222724Now post the unedited image.
>>739222773the shoulders are completely different, and so is the face are you blind
>>739219432switch 2 version with a star fox collab would be kino
>>739217884more knifes YESSSS
>>739222724>posts the shopFlat as flatass
>>739222308they have a year of development to place the game squarely between arc and tarkov, excited for season 3
>>739222809>iris past mouth ends>eyes more than 1 eye width apartWhy'd they give him fetal alcohol syndrome?
>>739217884I like the demon mask one.I want a fox mask vandal or something.
>>739223181that is an early work, vandal porn had come a long way since then, the future is bright
>>739212807funny how they start those retarded threads and soon enough the game playerbase is on the thread discussing the game and having a good time, marathonbros keep winning, see you guys in cryo
>>739223372state of play trailer for season 2 will be hype
>same fucking thread for three monthsDead board
>>739223517see you in 12 months when season 5 drops and the same retards are saying the game failed lmao
>>739222901i often get matched with ppl who play on xbox and it looks like they put more hours into the game than playstation users, too bad the xbox crowd only picks something up when it's on gamepass so bring it to the service around season 4 or so would be a smart move
>>739221798Fairgame$ is likely being developed based on marathon user data, i see an opportunity for synergy between the two games. data is the real reason sony paid 3.6bi for bungie
>>739224003marathon outdid tarkov by quite a bit and gave sony a real stake in the genre, they can turn around consumer trust by managing marathon properly, player numbers mean nothing this late in the season, give the people more content and the people will come back and play more
>>739223290What's the lore reason for his shoes being so big?
>>739224234she does big jumps a lot.
>>739224234she is a sonic fan
>>739223372What? The general has fallen off vg twice this month alone and is about a third doomers.
>>739223617It has the unusual possibility of being the biggest bomb of the year two years in a row.>>739224003What synergy?
>>739213831>5 seasons plannedYeah, every project has something planned, doesn't mean it will happen.>hey remember Firefly Season 4, in late 2006? Now THAT was a good season.>Mega Man Legends 3 was released in 2012. It was a great game.
>>739222686Come on cuh, get real, there’s plenty to criticize Marathon for, but art style isn’t one of those things. Stop muddying the water. We can complain about GaaS, the lack of singleplayer, the (mostly) recolored skins on the shop, but art style… Thats your hill, huh? Thats like complaining about the fries in McDonalds, or the nuggies at Wendy’s.
>>739225441Stop confusing unique for good. Marathon's artsyle is fucking atrocious. Somehow both garish and off putting.
>>739217884"Rubber/Latex Piss Fetish Party" Core
>>739217884who the fuck buys this shit lmao
>>739217884this game is so fucking ugly
>>739224234>>739224251That's a girl?
>>739224234Vandal is the "fast" character. Also, they don't come off.>>739226041Those can't be bought. They are cosmetics concepts from a survey.
>>739226724When did you ever see a man that looks like that?
couldn't marathon have tried some actually cool artstyle like pic related instead?
>>739224752we haven't had a non-ironic discussion about this game anywhere on the internet, even the steam forums are full of people shitting on it that dont own it.the only place you can actually talk about the game is people in the game you queue up with.it kind of sucks because its the worst way for this thing to die, I'd prefer no one talked about it so they few places I could discuss it weren't poisoned, but right not everywhere is tortanic fags.
>>739226843>Why doesn't every piece of media look like my favorite animes?
>>739226843That would require Bungie to actually be competent
>>739226889you really mean to tell me this wouldn't be an improvement over the current art style?
>>739212807I WANT ALL LIVE SERVICE GAMES TO DIE FOREVER
>>739226880/vg/ can be alright on occasion, when both the avatarfags and Destiny fans are offline. Sometimes, even these threads have genuine discussion.
>>739226821You're kidding right?
>>739226965No, it wouldn't. I like color. Blame! is just gray.
sex with vandal
>>739226965I like Blame! and I dont want things to just copy Blame!
>>739227012I repeat my question. When did you ever see a man that looks like that?
>>739227015Anon....it's a black and white manga... >>739227042Not 1:1 copy, but maybe inspired by? Marathon looks like plastic gay legos.
>>739226880Bungie once said that the worst thing that can happen to a game, is for the customers to be apathetic towards it. They also said that pleasing streamers is the number one priority, and to beware of overdrlivery.
>>739227051That's your average dude who doesn't lift. You've got to be trolling.
>>739227051>>739227012Looks like your average asian male. So 2billion men on earth look like that.
>>739227127I believe that you are the one trolling, actually. The premise that you think that Vandal looks masculine is ridiculous to me.
>>739227062and blame looks is just pipes and concrete rectangles.you can be reductive on any artstyle, Marathon's whole deal is that its a bunch of competing megacorps investigating tau ceti, the corpo stuff is "safe" and colorful and plastic and generic and QR codes and shit, it's supposed to be the logical conclusion of like the safe corpo Amazon/McDonalds styles, smoothed edges and clean.
>>739227192I wasn't even talking about the environment, I was referring to the character models. > it's supposed to be the logical conclusion of like the safe corpo Amazon/McDonalds styles, smoothed edges and clean.I can shit in your mouth and say it's a really deep metaphor for modern society, I don't think that would necessarily mean you'd enjoy eating my shit.
>>739226843Because it supposed to be corporate sci-fi mixed with an alien planet.
>>739227257plenty of people dont like how Blame! looks, even Tsutomu Nihei himself doesn't draw like that anymore.you have to stray pretty far from good taste to be able to say "this looks objectively bad and this looks objectively good" and I dont think Blame or Marathon are either.
>>739227192>Marathon's whole deal is that its a bunch of competing megacorpsThey aren't really competing. All of the civilian infrastructure are NuCaloric prefabs. The Pinwheel and the UESC Marathon are made by Traxus. You can even see that Pinwheel and Cryo Archive use different container models.>>739227257>I was referring to the character models.I only dislike how Triage looks.
Vandal looks ugly as fuck ingame
>>739227186That person doesn't look masculine, but they certainly don't look feminine. Just some twink, sadly.
>>739227409I never said objectively, I simply said it's better. Marathon is already a dying game, you can't say the art style had nothing to do with that.
>>739227192You've got to be a bungie employee. Go to bed, you still have work in the morning.>for now lol
>>739227504Depends on the skin. But I do agree that they've made a mistake with her face model. She needs careful color balance to avoid looking like she does in >>739217884.
>>739224752the true Marathon general is /dg/
Does Marathon still use the artstyle they stole from that one tranny? Or did they managed to rework it?
>>739227560Not just the face but her body looks too much like a fridge
>>739227629>her body looks too much like a fridgeI don't believe that this is an opinion you genuinely hold. Your bait has become too obvious.
>>739227528>I never said objectively, I simply said it's better.in your opinion>Marathon is already a dying game, you can't say the art style had nothing to do with that.I dont think any artstyle would have made it a success.it failed because it's a machine designed to make the worst players at it feel bad constantly.>>739227545this site is so gay now, no one can disagree without being paid to apparently
>>739227504Her face looks weird compared to the short film model
There comes a point where it gets pretty fucking pathetic to be chasing after a dead game that's been circling the drain since launch.
>>739227707Of course in my opinion, I can say confidently that I wouldn't given Marathon a try if it didn't look gay as hell. >I dont think any artstyle would have made it a success.But maybe it would've made it less of a flop. If characters looked more like pic related I would've given it a try.
>>739227690Its her posture and blockiness of her outfitLooks very unflatteting
>>739227821we've had games copy his aesthetic before anon, none have succeeded.if they were targeting mass appeal they would have just made it milsim, not done anything weird or challenging and made COD-VII clone or whatever
>>739227875Really? What games are you referring to?
>>739227908https://store.steampowered.com/app/1173220/Bleak_Faith_Forsaken/https://store.steampowered.com/app/265690/NaissanceE/most popular one is probably: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2407270/AI_LIMIT/ (look at the first screenshot)20k reviews is best you can do with Blame Artstyle
>>739228005Did you ask chatGPT to name you these games or did you know about them off the top of your head?These seem indie or otherwise low budget games. What do you mean by none of them succeeding?
>>739227821You can't have a Blame! aesthetic without also having the game be with a megastructure. It wouldn't make sense or look good.>I can say confidently that I wouldn't given Marathon a try if it didn't look gay as hell.If Marathon looked any other way, I wouldn't have bothered to check it out. I actually didn't even consider playing Arc Raiders because I didn't like it looked. I only played it because people kept comparing Marathon to it, so I wanted to know what the gameplay was like (it's alright). And I'll never play Tarkov because it's just a milsim, the setting and style are perfectly generic and uninteresting. Notice that I said "style" instead of "art style", because Tarkov doesn't have any art in it, it's just realistic.>If characters looked more like pic related I would've given it a try.This reminds me of /vg/'s Rimworld general, where almost everyone plays with ugly ass anime mods.>>739227875I liked Lorn's Lure. It didn't succeed?>>739228005NaissanceE sucks.
>>739228098I searched the other two but AI limit got some threads here.>What do you mean by none of them succeedingfuck all reviews = fuck all sales, whats your point? I feel like you're arguing that Marathon's niche art-style didn't work because it was divisive, if only they'd used this other niche divisive art-style it would have succeeded>>739228107I have no opinion on any of those games, I haven't played them and neither has anyone else.
>>739228265You're saying indie games getting indie sales is proof of the art style being bad? Did these game make a profit or not?
>>739219432> a 3 year old exclusively single player crpg has more players right now in the dead of night than marathon does
>>739228318I do not care, I dont even know what your point is, I think you imagine a AAA Blame! game would do well, based on nothing but you liking it.I've provided a bunch of examples of games that didn't break out or do well above baseline using the aesthetic, I dunno what more I can give you.
Can someone tell me what exactly is bad about this game?
>>739228410>claims that there were games with blame! aesthetic and none were successful>posts some indie games>doesn't even know if they made a profit or floppedI feel like you're arguing just for the sake of arguing at this point.
>>739228439I dont want to make a spreadsheet with boxlieter estimates and fucking graphs and shit to "prove you wrong" on a kind of baseless point anyway.I'm gonna leave now lol.
I do be laughing
>>739228496Of course not. Instead you asked chatgpt for a few games you knew nothing about and called it job done. lol
>>739228420original vision for it was betterextraction genre is a shitbungo listened to wrong feedback (sweats) and nerfed equalisers and sweats don't attract new players - they repel themthere is decent overarching story, but you can't experience during play due to the stressful play environment. It's all through youtube and shittheir overal decisions would rub mostly anyone the wrong wayinb4 lebbit spacing suck my dick idc
>>739228571I never played the original but I do agree extraction shooters suck as a whole. Bungie listening to sweats is nothing new but you'd really think theyd learn one day.Thanks for the rundown
>>739212807>sony injects another couple million to keep the game running *WARNING! MINOR LACERATIONS DETECTED*>sub 3k active players *WARNING! MAJOR LACERATIONS DETECTED*>*crack* sub 1k players *WARNING! USER DEATH IMMINENT*>game goes F2P *MORPHINE ADMINISTERED*
>>739222724this just looks like a modern art hoe bitch in a pair of modern nike sneakers…
>>739217884as stupid as they are i admit they look better than anything concord or highguard put out
>>739217884So what's the incentive to buy these dog shit designs
>>739220756nah, concords are like porn, you know them when you see themhunters gathering? concordrivals? not concordhells divers? not concordlast flag or whatever the fuck? concordtheres a few easy to spot telltale signs of a concord:-disgusting, fortnite esque or queer art style-multiplayer, and pvp oriented-trend chasing arriving long after the trend passed-stench of sbi type consultants, concordlikes are the sort of garbage a comitee would design with the clear objective of not offending snyone and ticking every gcj/sbi/journo wishlists box-0 sex appeal, concordlikes often sport ugly bald lesbian girl bosses -great media reception: like dung beetles, the media will hop onto any concord like and generally any corporate slop and try to run defense for it.-live service, battle passes, monetization first approachthink most all concords fit most of the above but its not an exhaustive list, the most important part is you can tell the ingroup and outgroup instantly, concordlikes are insantly detected by most everyone in the gamer group.
>>739228420No onboarding. The new player experience is very confusing and unforgiving.Grindy progression. Salvage requirements for upgrades are very high, and some rare salvage is inherently more difficult to get because it's only found in low risk areas, which have less rare loot.Oppressive PvP. Team fights 1 minute in, getting 3rd partied, 4th partied. Dire Marsh is a prime example of this. Too many teams on too small of a map. There was an experimental mode where they reduced the team count there from 6 to 5 and it greatly improved the experience.Poor UX. Not UI, I personally think it's fine, but there are definitely experience problems. You can't tell chip mods, implants, and cores apart from each other, you need to mouse over them and read what they do. You also can't mass sell/buy/move items, and swapping out weapon mods during a run is really annoying since you can move them from one gun to another directly.
Bungie is treating Marathon like a fucking early access game
>>739221064made a list before i saw this post, lol>>739229094oh western made is missing, amazingly, jp, chinese, korean, asian games in general are able to dodge becoming concordlikes to some degree, however foamstars was a protoconcord, by square enix and they have 1 or 2 more i think in the pipelinesamusingly enough theyve been firing western devs en masse because they have realized that western devs and anything the media likes generally speaking, is cancer.x connecting jp and en and jp investors aggressively bringing the issue of western consultants being cancer to investor meetings is apparently working as chemo and fighting the infection.
>>739212807finally, the playerbase has stabilised!
>>739228632>I never played the originalI don't think he is talking about the original Marathon trilogy, that was just a mediocre Doom clone that Apple users could cope with. But the original vision for this Marathon 4, it was supposed to play way more like DayZ. Bigger maps, no timers, asymetrical spawns, teams would spawn in instances of the map, do their business and extract at a continuous pace. But they brought in ZIegler for Valorant and he injected cancerous hero shooter DNA in the game.>>739229175Because it effectively is. It's a beta at best. Ever since they kicked Barrett off they don't have an actual competent leader with a vision for the game.
>>739228571>equalisersThere is no such thing as an equalizer weapon. There are only weapons that you need to bring with you or else you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. This is what the old WSTR was.
>>739229297The only actual equalizer weapon that could effectively punish better geared up players for having bad positions or whiffing was the knife
>>739229290>>739228571Competitive PvP and extraction shooters do not mix. That's not the point of the genre and I will forever be confused why they got the fucking Valorantcuck on board.
yo this shit is fire fr fr ong no cap
>>739228420everything. arts horrible, 40 bucks for 3 maps (sometimes 4), based around trios (lmao), heroes, no campaign, battlepasses, grindy progression, destiny asset flip even the the normiest normies notice (seriously, the enemies are dedtiny mob reskins, essentially all of the animations are from destiny, too, just what the fuck did these people spend years on?)
Idling in the main menu to own the chuds
>>739229297>there are no equaliser weapons>there are only [weapon that functions as equaliser]truly the sharpest shed in the drawer
>>739229710If that's your definition of an equalizer, then I don't want equalizers to exist. You can have the semantics victory if you want it, but having a weapon like that is still terrible for balance.
>>739229710WSTR isn't an equalizer because its performance lives on dies based on if you have the attachment that magically shits out an extra shell. Without it you can't take down a geared up players and it's only those geared up players that have those modifications.
>>739229797>>739229795you are both idiots, I'm sorry
>>739229868We accept your concession.
post yfw you did buy the destiny 2 pvp reskin trashfire.
when’s this piece of shit going f2p. i dont wanna pay €40 to play with 4,000 faggots. that’s €0.01 a faggot. that’s a way too high cost-to-faggot ratio
>>7392311976 months.
>>739231273i’ll hold you to that. if it isn’t 6 months to the day from now, i will sneak up on you and slap dogshit in your ear
>>739222213>likes the tranny/floyd botsterrible tastelikely a tranny as well
>>739231630Meet me outside and I'll gape your asshole fag.
>>739231197Never. There is no way to make this game both free and appealing because Bungie would need to fully rely on microtransactions for profit. They should continue focusing on just making the game appealing.
remember when the marathon sale saved bungie?yeah, me neither
>>739231197if you want to play the game just do it
>>739232210yeah just buy the slop dude just play it it doesn't cost you anything bro just do it you're not poor are you?
>>739221184>HR slampig bog hag karensFound the Asmongold viewer.
>>739232351>say you want to play the game>erm it's le slop actually!!!I don't get it.
>>739218259lmao
make the game free to play bungie!!!!!!
>>739232640Why?
>>739232672Because I aint giving my money to bungie, not anymore. I trusted them way too many times
>>739232640going f2p is a huge izzat loss for bungie and it wouldn't even work because according to people who actually play it, the ingame store sucks
>>739232825As if the everstore isnt a scam or basically any fucking microtransaction in destiny 2, they did it once, they can do it again
>>739232594>says he doesn't get it>but actually he does
>>739221458Holy fuck.
>>739225441I'm not your "cuh" you fucking nigger. The game is disgusting to look at.
>>739222750>>739234126please Anon just one more brown person game this one will sell I promise just let us fill one more game with brownoids people will ignore it this time I promise
>>739212807No, don't close downI want to short Sony and watch them bleed 785 million dollars a year propping up a failed studio
MARABLASTERS HOLD THE POSITION!!! Once The Great Reset begins, We will reach a new PEAK.
It's honestly over and Marathon won
>>739237708>It's honestly over and Marathon wonwon what, exactly?
>>739237748KWABOTY award.
>>739237748The btfo the haters award
>>739237748The most dedicated shilling campaign award
>>739237806By what metric?
>>739237889It won't go below 10k til season two then it will go up
>>739237952... is that supposed to be an achievement?
>>739238024Yeah, a small army of marathoneers were able to overcome the ten times bigger hate campaign led by wormtongue paul tassi, similar to the story of 300
Seriously, what are the odds that Marathon will make a comeback from here?
>>739221932Well, there we go folks. It's over.
>>739238192>the odds>bungieNot likely. Bungie has proven they cant make videogames and the backbone of bungie were the Activision studios high moon and vicarios visions. Bungie established the setting but ultimately it was those studios who put the content weapons and armor in bungie games. The modern NUbungie devs with shadowkeep showed their laziness. First expansion was literally a recycled planet from destiny 1 and said destination had all recycled bosses and boss areas from both games. They also introduced a seasonal system so they could be more in line with fortnite I guess. Basically they killed the vision of destiny so they could attract the fortnite audience which miserably failed. Since bungie loves sucking streamer cock so much they thought they could make bank with marathon but that game has ultimately failed to establish any longtime content creators to play and make clips for.
>>7392381920%
>>739238384;)
>>739221932NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NEWS FROM THE CAPITAL MY GOOD MENhttps://voca.ro/1lNj5XmNd2KG
>>739238192Non-zero. They've been doing a good job supporting the game so far. But it all depends on the season 2 release.
>>739238914>>739238442
Even my delusional friend who had been saying for the 2 months how great the games is, how he put 176 hours into the game, that nothing was wrong with the gam, he stopped playing Saturday. It's officially over.
>>739238836RIP Fairgame$
>>739239125That's actually perfectly normal for a seasonal game.
>>739239402He said he's not coming back after all the news broke last week
>>739239531What's the news that made him upset?
>>739239531That's also perfectly normal.
>>739213054Slopbloods
>>739212807These threads always get deleted near bump limit.Is the idea to stop them from getting archived?
>>739237748Biggest flop of the year. More than twice Highguard's entire fucking budget in losses.
The studio is in poor condition. He expects new content to be limited, a significant layoff, and a pivot to Destiny 2. This will lead to the full development of Destiny 3/Destiny Classics, while Marathon will be canceled.
>>739224234so you look like a goy running a goy maze for mark zuckerberg
>>739218259I can hear the dilation coming from this discord tranny post
>>739221494>this entire charthigh quality shitpost
>>739239818Menar for>>739239626
>>739226752How does that make you go fast? Does she glide instead of running or something?It looks retarded either way. Worst character design in a game where the best character designs are still terrible.
>>739229445>>739217884jej
>>739217884>when you're standing in the unemployment line
>>739228520>40(forty)(XL) dollars game>1:1 copy of fortnite (free game) battlepass systemit would find it sad that this is the norm if i actually played AAA shit, can't imagine playing this shit
>>739228107>You can't have a Blame! aesthetic without also having the game be with a megastructure. It wouldn't make sense or look good.That makes no sense. lol Just use the I,robot design but make it detailed and grimy.
>>739221228Because the idea isn't to give customers what they want.The idea is to dictate to the world what they are and are not allowed to enjoy.Leftists will try to throw this back at you, but there are a few big differences. First, they're using top-down power to sabotage dissidents and control the industry, whereas we simply want them to stop being subsidized and propped up through force when they've been rejected. Second, they don't actually like the stories that they're telling. They like the personal therapy session of making it (think of when you were scribbling when you were ten and then threw the paper into the garbage when it was time to go) and they like the power rush of controlling a major studio and subverting a male space. These are not people who just want to make fun videogames for their fellow gamers.
>>739212807Game development shouldn't be a process of constantly asking what the customer wants. Devs are absolutely right about that.Rather, studios need to hire people who's natural inclination is to make a game that their customers will like. Everyone who gets hired should find things cool for the same reasons that the customers will.All of these devs who have disdain for their natural customers need to go. There's no other way to save the western entertainment industry.
>>739241701You know your probably rightFeedback should be reserved for game fixes more than design or future development plansYou can still enable community inspired cosmetics that are earn able in the game but the core philosophy and design should be the developers ideas and not the customers
>>739229518>>739229173I appreciate the answers because everyone else just kept saying >its wokethen wouldn't actually even say what was woke about it
>>739243010dude i see people say whats woke about it every single thread then the gaming circlejerk journo fags go "no its not"games woke as shit, woke means many things but the most agreed meaning is akin to postmodernism, this is, woke is art style and design that rejects conventions and subverts expectations choosing to go for the bizarre, queer, marginalized and disgusting whenever it can. Woke media will have with few exceptions:-androgynous asexual characters-rejection of sexuality and sensuality-queer aesthetics (bright, flamboyant colors, bald women, lesbian haircuts, rejection of traditional gender roles, weird, fucked up shapes)not all encompassing and there's more stuff but really the only people saying its not woke is the journos and gcj queers/trannies, and as someone else put it "theyre used to such a level of queer shit that this doesn't even register". for normal people this is all repelling as fuck, which you can see in the sales of any woke shit.
>>739243821Holy buzz words
>>739244129no, they are not holy at all, quite the contrary in fact
>the only live service sony made money on was helldivers 2>and it only made money because chuds latched onto it thinking it was "based">the dev is a gay as fuck eurocuck who hates chuds >they literally have a gay furry on the team who keeps posting his OCLol LMAO
>>739245032And they can't help fixing what ain't broken and fucking up the balance forcing the chuds' backlash.It's still crazy how the faggots managed to get that one guy who made a perfectly sensible request doxxed and fired over nothing, I hate goycattle so fucking much.
>>739245032hd2 is just cool though, it has a cool aesthetic, cool weapons, cool gameplay, you can earn paid currency, its just good, chuds can and often will ignore devs being cancer if the underlying product is good enougheven then seeing how hd development goes, hd2 is very much a case of the devs are trapped in it with chuds, not chuds with them
>>739239747Usually it's just one trannyjanny who works the burger night shift that deletes them for whatever reason.
https://youtu.be/FgrypWZivBs
>>739225734hahaha
>>739241281>These are not people who just want to make fun videogames for their fellow gamers.Notably, their change in studio motto:"We make games that we want to play." ---> "We create worlds that inspire friendships."
>>739245945This is actually the aesthetic that inspires modern games, BTW. These people go to gay bars and orgies.Having our entire society turn into this ugly degenerate shit while the kind of mild heterosexual eroticism that normal people enjoy is actively attacked is our reward for tolerating gay people. And I'm not just shitposting. People aren't hyper-modularized blank slates where you can just plug in the qualities that you want and hit play. Faggotry is an entire pathology that often begins with sexual abuse as a child.
>>739246820Kinky.
>>739246901Kinks are an ugly person thing, BTW.
>>739245032>and it only made money because chuds latched onto it thinking it was "based"yeah, that's the only reason people played it.
>>739221064concordlike is just a buzzword for “game I hate that hopefully bombs horribly” it’s not that deep
>the gypsy cleptomaniac shell is the only one they made attractivewhat did Bungie mean by this?
>>739246959Not true, I know a lot of hot people who are just as kinky as fat ugly nerds.
>>739246801>We make worlds that inspire friendships>next game is a sweaty PVP game based around extraction which encourages you to betray your friends for personal gainThis feels like a joke.
>>739247324Still looks like shit
ANY MINUTE NOWRIGHT CHUDS?
>>739217884>Destiny but with robots wearing trendy activewear jackets and sneakers in hilighter colorsI unironically like it but I would never ever play an extraction shooter
>>739247145Concordlikes are games that:-go to war with normal men and white people-are deeply ugly and hollow in every regard as a direct result; terrible character designs are a necessary element of the Concordlike-have feminized writing-are made by clueless, dispassionate devs who don't care about their craft (not the same thing as just making a bad videogame) and often look down on the hobby-exist more to ideologically occupy gaming than to be a game that gamers enjoy-are often live service because they don't give a shit about the hobby and just want to fleece gamers for money forever while putting in minimal effort (not saying that every live service game fits this mold)Every presentation that said something along the lines of "end white men as the default" was leading up to the Concordlike. Sometimes they make compromises to get people through the door, but anyone who hasn't been in a coma for the past 15 years knows that Highguard was going to have a bait and switch after they got off the ground and that Horizon will be the same. Before you even start, these characters are repulsive for political reasons, and not the ones that the devs would try to gaslight you into believing because all these people do is lie.
>>739247324her VA sounds like a chain smoking wine aunt. She is not appealing
>>739217884the sad part is there are parts of these designs that are cool but they are surrounded by so much goofy shit. these really needed a second pass.
>>739212807> 5,349 players right nowPULL UP! PULL UP! PULL UP! WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP!>It was sub 10,000 most of yesterday>somehow peaks at 11,943 toward midnight ESTAstroturf bots that saw the game was finally gonna hit 10,000 maximum and decided to rev up bots to own the CHUDs or something?
>>739213054>shitting on this game got old fastyeah, that's because it's a fun game
>>739227192>its ugly on purpose
>>739222308>Tarkov beating it>despite the fact Tarkov idiots had to buy the game a second timeGrim.
>>739222724>Two hands on right handAI sloppa. Grim.
>>739217884this is just fan art, bad fan art at that
>>739246820Makes sense. Would you care to expand a little or point to more materials about this?>Faggotry is an entire pathology that often begins with sexual abuse as a childTrue. Homos reproduce by touching children.
>>739246820no not really
>>739247324My initial thought was that she'd be unremarkable in a game with a better cast.Seeing more of her, she looks worse when it's not zoomed in on her face or when the lighting isn't complimentary. She's got a desexualized body. Peak safe-horny. She joins the rest of the cast in->I don't want to be this character. I don't want to fuck this character. I don't dream of having this character as my bro on the battlefield. Why would I want to play as this character?Whatever excuses anyone might try to give, we all know why they chose this direction with the characters, and it's not the one that they'd give to someone who doesn't like the characters.
>>739228520NGL: Black makes them look tolerable than the vomit green color spam does.
I really like the aesthetic of this game over all, the shell cinematic are well done too. Don't know why everyone is so negative about it, besides (rightly) wanting bungle to suffer. I definitely have had more fun with marathon than other extraction-slop I've tried.Glad my boy finally got some cinematic love today:https://youtu.be/FgrypWZivBs?si=f35z3LNJAwdKM41H
>>739249360nigga that is literally george droyd
>>739213054maratroon sissies our response?
>>739248545It was a patch day yesterday, anon. Those always get small bumps.
>>73924905750% of young devs at the GDC identify as gay.Just look at any gathering of gay people, e.g. gay pride parades. Hardly a church meetup. Deep down, everyone knows who they are. That's why they'll start making jokes about them being degenerates before catching themselves and backtracking like cowards.BTW, gay devs, good job. I used to have a "live and let live" stance in regards to gay people (in isolation, I don't really care if someone has buttsex in a business that's explicitly designed for that), but it's obvious that you need to make everything in society about your degeneracy and are a part of the feminist war on normal men. I'm now completely in favor of treating homosexuality like a mental illness and putting this chapter behind us.
>>739247992I wonder how much these virtue signaling stage presentations, conferences, and investor meetings damage the earnestness with which projects are designed and led. It seems like way to fall into complications: you are trying to aesthetically satisfy an out group (and wasting the brain space thinking about them) when you should be laser focused on making a great game. You're trying to balance "how can we score the woke points while not entirely pissing off our core audience". This is why their mission statement changing like that is profound. You'd think that I'd just photoshopped it as a parody, but it's actually how it is. I think their brains are just all amiss at that company, and at most big Western devs these days, because they aren't allowed to focus on the one important thing.
>>739249992>I can talk to just about any of my buddies and they have played Halo 1-2-3-Reach>Not a single one has played any Destiny gameWas Destiny a psyop? I am not convinced anyone actually played those stupid games.
>>739249992A lot of people who go to those industry events and shows are just narcissists who want a free trip somewhere and to feel important for a day.t. techanon who sees the same thing at every conference
>>739249329He still looks like a diminutive twink.
>>739249459what? have you even played the game? triage is fun.
>>739249986I didn't know that many devs identified as homosexuals. But I stopped caring about new games and devs over a decade ago.I agree with the rest of your post. They just couldn't have their weird fun behind closed door. They want you to clap in disgust.
"When Marathon dies, woke in gaming is over"Asmongold
I'm blasting with dads of marathon and we gettin all the purple loot in cryo archives this game got legs
>>739250889>dads of marathonbro... it's over...
>>739250234I think that narcissism and socializing is also the reason that people go to protests but I also think they take some of that culture home with them. Don't you think that, after a weekend being bombarded with the traditional games development stuff combined with this woke stuff in a "everybody knows it's true" context, they go back to their studios thinking this stuff is normal? Especially when their coworkers also all received the same programming? For me, this (and college indoctrination and the investor class creating a culture war after Occupy Wallstreet frightened them) is how I explain what has happened.And if they do think that uglifying females/clumsily inserting minorities/bisexual purple+pink color coding/tourist difficulty mode/girlbosses/bad writing/etc. seen at the conference is expected then they're dealing with contradictory impulses that I insinuated in my post, eh? "My instincts tell me this would be good but my ideology is conflicted" is a hard way to make good art.
>>739222502>cryo ranked>cryo rankeddid you forget you have to be level 25 and the game becomes ridiculously unfun once you open Outpost? I actually like the game but you are fuckin delusional
>>739227192> food metaphor
>>739213054GTA 6, no such thing as too big to flop
>>739250889I JUST BOUGHT MORE DADS IN THE MARAVERSE
what a beautiful game
>>739251182I'm not excited for GTA6, but it's going to be the biggest launch in videogame history just because it's the sequel to GTAV. You shouldn't expect any different.I feel like that becomes less likely the longer they wait, though. People can't stay in a perpetual state of hype forever. And if they let themselves get pressured into the $100 price tag, I retract my prediction; a lot of people will wait and see what people are saying, and I don't expect people to be completely positive on the game.
>>739249459It is
>>739212807Is it F2P yet?
>>739253061Not yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do a F2P weekend for the next season launch to really try to inflate the numbers.
>>739221184I think if we go by these terms, then Marathon isn't a concord. Marathon looks nothing like Concord or HighGuard, it's characters are weird but not really friendly, and I wouldn't really consider a hardcore extraction shooter with a PVP focus to be pandering to any audience. However, I think what best describes a "Concord" is a game that's way over it's head with insane internal forced positivity, believing they truly have the next best thing that will user in Fortnite levels of revenue.
>>739212807There are indie games with less than 100 devs releasing more content than this. This is a $20 game.
>>739254156A concord-like is just a AAA wokeflop with insufferable entitled devs. This describes marathon perfectly.
>>739254476Bungie is a small indie studio (800 people) with a shoestring budget ($250m or more). Please understand.
>>739254673>every Kamiya game is a ConcordlikeRetarded take.Concord was the logical conclusion of what the western industry has been pushing towards pretty much since Halo (it'd be ironic if Marathon were the death knell). Getting of the """immature""" stuff, translation: anything that makes some dumb bitch roll her eyes. Cute girls with big tits, muscular dudes in hyper-masculine fantasy costumes, big guns, gore, masculine morality, etc. Also hiring feminists to make things less male-oriented. And treating gamers with utter contempt because the people in charge look down on the hobby and the hobbyists. The Concordlike is, well, Concordlike.
>>739222415>striking silhouette designed to strike At least we know they arent using AI lmao
>>739222415>this is generally agreed to be the best character design in the gameSad.
>>739255125I missed the word "woke" for whatever reason.I still stand by my definition, though.
>>739254476Wrong, it's a 10$ game at bestWon't surprise me if Marathon goes the Destiny 2 way and becomes free after 6 months
How much costs a single day of the game remaining alive for Sony/Bungie?
>>739255918Nobody knows the server costs, but a month of the 400 Bungie devs on Marathon comes out to about $3-4m.So probably $3.5m a month, conservatively.
>>739255918>How much costs a single day of the game remaining aliveput the drink down.
>>739256116So, without the layoffs, Bungie wastes about $42 million per year? Crazy numbers, considering the $250 million they've alredy burnt through
>>739256375The Marathon team at Bungie costs about $42-45m a year, yeah. The whole studio is probably $100m at least.
Keep buying stuff in the shop, sisters!
Has there ever been a live service game that came out like this, flopped bad, but managed to recover?The only one I can think of is maybe R6 Siege, but I don't think that cost $250 million or had hundreds of people working on it for years.
>>739256591tsmtbungie needs our aid
always shocked at supposed "gamers" who dont have the innate ability to tell if a game is going to be slop or not. This shit reeked from day 1.
>>739256712I don't think R6 came out of the gate as something with big expectations, Bungie has literally nothing but Destiny and old IPs that no one gave a shit about (marathon) in their possession now. Bungie is, without a doubt, an AAA studio with a lot of people having big expectations and fans-turned-haters due to how they handled destiny
>>739256712Final Fantasy 14 (assuming you consider an MMORPG to be live service) could count. It would be interesting also to know which games had poor launches, invested heavily and then flopped a second time. One consistent theme in the Concordlike genre is that the publisher pulls the plug completely within the first month, which has not happened here. Usually they're smart enough to quit while they're extremely far behind. Bungie seems to be digging in deeper.
>>739250972>Bungie is no longer paying the jeets running the server so they use it for NFT scams nowHoly mother of fucking kek
>>739256116Thanks.But the 400 devs are no longer working on Marathon, right? I'd assume ~30 of them would be enough to put out the homeopathic "content".>>739256319How should I have phrased it?
>>739257449FFXIV and NMS come to mind, but only FFXIV is live service, really. I think that's way too unique a case to be comparable here.>>739257584Oh no anon, Bungie has 800 people and half of them are on Marathon. It used to only be 300 people, with 500 on Destiny 2, but they pulled more people on Marathon to try to save it.
>>739257706>Bungie has 800 people and half of them are on MarathonWhat the fuck.How can such a bloated monstrosity hope to survive?
>>739257791>How can such a bloated monstrosity hope to survive?Why do you think people are having such a blast in these threads?
>>739257871Sorry, I don't get the inuendo.
>>739258052When reviews for marathon came out from reviewers, a lot of them used common place buzzwords that are often present when they have nothing good or clever to say;the game is a blast,the game is lightning in a bottle, the game is a return to form,the game is a vibe shift,the game keeps the reviewer hooked,the game's reviewer can't wait to go back to playing the game after they finish their review,etc.Ironic blastposting has slowed down compared to when it released, but you'll find it occasionally in marathon threads to this day, including this oneOh, and professional gamers were asked to not release their reviews for a while after the game launched, because they wanted them to wait until the first patch hit, which added current end game content
>>739258252>professional gamersprofessional reviewers*such as IGN
blastbros......marathonian history edition. After two and a half months on the 76th day in the marathonian timeline the game managed to gain about 500 players week over week. Will the momentum continue? Today probably not. Base WoW projections adjusted to a 3 week average.https://files.catbox.moe/p787he.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/xgu41j.png
>>739212807Great beta, because Bungie is incompetent game. /v/ wouldn't know multiplayer PvP games if they punched them in the jaw,
>>739258443Major patches (like the one that had Cryo) result in a week over week increase (minorly) to that exact point the week before, but it's not actually growth, it's just a temporary bump. And I just checked the numbers, and at this time last week it was 9k and right now it's 7.5k
>>739258443there was a patch yesterday
>>739258561Silence, dotard
>>739258443Gemini predicts 10,062 player count for today's peak, but it might dip below into 4 digits number territory since server performance has degraded a lot since yesterday's patch
>>739258979Nah uh.
>>739259185Nice projection
>>739258252Thank you and sorry for being retarded. I'm not up to date anymore.
>>739258591>>739258612yeah i'm aware of the what the game does when there is a patch and that there was a patch yesterday. this was the mid season patch performance which was it's previous best i just thought it was interesting to point out.https://files.catbox.moe/djqu0y.png>>739259110my internal daily model is tracking around 9932 so that seems about right, wasn't aware of the server issues that.s also interesting.
>>739257706>Bungie has 800 people and half of them are on Marathon.What the fuck are they doing? Genuinely. How could a company produce such garbage UX with so many resources available to them?Makes me MAD as fuck
>>739259958I think the people who made the good Destiny 2 UI left before Marathon or they didn't work on it.
>>739260042is it really that different from destiny 2s ui? from what i remember they are almost the same, it's console-centric and stupidly annoying to navigate with kbm at times and fuck, does the crosshair really need to be half my screen on pc?
>>739260987Never played Marathon or Destiny 2, but Marathon's UI is some kind of uniquely shitty affair where stuff isn't clear, information is scattered across a lot of different screens, and none of it flows together. And that's on top of the eye rape art style.I think the Marathon UI dev even doubled down and pulled a George Lucas and went 'we designed it like this on purpose but maybe we can make it less bad'
>>739259958>>739260042All of Bungie's talent got purged between 2013 and 2020. Activision got one of their guys put in charge of the studio, and he fired everyone who was making too much money, or had too much influence. Then #metoo happened and the rest of the halo dudebro senior members got axed. That's when they changed the studio motto, because literally "making guys we want to play means we're just making games for bald white men, and we want a different audience."
>>739222308I seriously believe THIS is why sony wants to run away from PCThey can't scam investors when steam charts exist
>>739261205I think it's clear with Marathon that hardly anyone wants to play the games they're making.But I guess you can't put that on the company's front door.
>>739261205that's completely wrong they may have lost people over the years but they've had the same faggot since halo reach in charge all the way until the end of 2025 then the "never overdeliver" guy got promoted in his placebungie have always been this way
>>739250889Save some blasting for me, dad :D
>>739213054don't worry troon, we'll find another piece of shit to mock.
>>739239826why would you admit your own discord raid?
Why are y'all so negative...Marathon is absolutely oozing with that Bungie magic and best in class gunplay™
>>739261373>don't kill the goose that lays golden eggs>"sometimes you want foie gras"Nah, that post was 100% right. Parsons wasn't ceo until 2016. Activision bought or placed people onto their board of directors, who's first order of business, was getting rid of Staten and Marty, because they pushed back against having D1 cut up and sold as expansions instead of a complete game.
