Can a short arcade rail shooter that sells at $50-$60 be successful in 2026? A part of me thinks the genre is too outdated there's going to be a lot of pissed off newcomers to the series that will be permanently soured on the IP if they reach the credits in 1-2 hours.
>>739228986Never pay more than 20$ for a videogame.
>>739228986No. Especially not when it looks and sounds like that.>>739229131/thread
>>739228986People ought to realize that certain games are meant to be played over and over again doing different difficulties and routes and stuff. $50 is considered a "budget title" too nowadays even though I wish the standard could be $40. I'll be kind of disappointed when Rhythm Heaven comes out and it's $50-$60.
>>739228986>everyone complains it's too short and that they want more Star Fox>Nintendo interprets this as people wanting less Star FoxThis is a plausible scenario.
It needs Krystal.
>>739229389No
>>739229327The issue is that gaming has moved on. It's why traditional Sonic games struggle in the modern era as well, outside of any quality of the game itself.Star Fox would have to go one of two ways:1) high octane arcade shooting, online leaderboards, etc. with a cheap point of entry, sort of like an Afterburner II clone or something equally simple2) high production value space opera, with more branching paths based on between-mission actions as well as in-mission and selection, a fuller gameplay loop, etc. more like the often mentioned Wing Commander.And since Star Fox is a merc organization you could have elements of Wing Commander Privateer, where sometimes you just have to do dirty transport missions or something. Basically Firefly with space combat and talking animals.
>>739228986Just have multiple campaigns like a singleplayer RTS. Have a Corneria Campaign, Assault on Venom, Defense of Katina, etcThe assets of enemies are all the fucking same, how hard would it be to design 20/25 rolling maps if they actually want to market it as a 'first party' game?
>>739228986This is not so different from the Ace Combat games really.It'd be easy to evolve the franchise in that direction while retaining what made SF good: Secret objectives, variable paths. etc.
>>739229557there's gonna be so little porn of this crackwhore possum.
>>739228986the game is meant to be replayed and has a lot of content you can't see in a single playthrough...unfortunately ,zoomers are retarded and see games as an item on a checklist rather than something to be experienced, so they will just look up the optimal route, play it once, and never touch it again. but what can you do.
The campaign is in a good spot, so if I had to justify $50 or higher, I would focus on the multiplayer. It should have an extensive amount of maps/objectives and be addicting as crack to play, something that people can enjoy for long after the singleplayer wore off its welcome.
It will sell hot cakes at $50 thoughbeit
>>739229992Yeah, but the market is what the market is. Like I said here >>739229625 you have to do more than just on rails.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/729137080/
>>739228986They should make it open world, where you can freely roam the various planets and space itself.Guidance is provided with various mission objectives that change depending on your choices
>>739229625This game is obviously meant to gauge interest in the series and if it does well you could definitely see them do another game that's more fully fleshed out, but the issue is that they don't really know how to do that because every time they try to do something besides being a rail shooter it underperfroms.Personally in the age of open world games they should really try something in the vein of Star Fox 2 again. Freely roaming the Lylat System doing missions and stuff.
>>739228986Nintendo can resell anything and their fanbase will lap it up. They've been reselling the same three Mario and Zelda games for almost 40 years now.
>>739228986What the SF series really could succeed on is Multiplayer. It's a shame it's taken a back seat throughout the series.Imagine different weapons, customizable ships, ship unlocks, ship camos. etc.
>>739230354Idk how that would translate well to Starfox, a railshooter. If they could do an open space Lylat Warriors that could be super dope.
>>739230432This. It wouldn't even be that hard. We've been able to do this in some capacity since 8bit computers with 48k of memory.
>>739230617>Blasts some punk out of the sky>BOUNTY VOUCHER RECEIVED: 200,000 CREDITSNow that's the mercenary life for Star Fox.
>>739231241Basically yes. That's the way I'd take it.Elite. Wing Commander: PrivateerCould even have longer story elements. But the loop between them should be regular merc work. Not sure how a whole crew would fit into this, but it would explain Fox himself.
>>739231241>>739231432Isn't this literally just what he has been doing in the SMG movie?
>>739229953Wrong. There's gonna be a brief flood after the game's release.
>>739231432>>739231241The thing is you can even have certain bounties come with stories, with them being semi-random. Don't bother with voice acting and resort to VN format for dialogue if budget is tight.>A bounty where you have to bring back the heir of a magnate who fled with a "commoner" they fell in love with and you can let them go or bring the heir back in for a pay out>A transport mission where what you're transporting isn't what it seems>Another transport mission where what you are transporting is degrading so you have to rush and burn thrusters like nobody's business>etc.>>739231504That's what's stupid. He literally explains a game backstory and a gameplay loop. And instead we just get SF64 but uglier.
>>739228986what was the last time anyone actually released a full-price rail shooter? Star Fox Zero in 2016? You can barely even call that a rail shooter given how much of the gameplay is all-range mode or the dumb gimmick vehicle(s). The reason Zero failed had nothing to do with it being a rail shooter.
>>739229131>doesnt understand the joke of the image the line comes fromYou had to pay like 50 dollars for it. The joke is that you already paid over 20 dollars.
>>739232762a cup of coffee and muffin is already $20 these days.$50 (for a game) is the equivalent of 1 hour of work for the average person
>>739230432>This game is obviously meant to gauge interest in the series and if it does well you could definitely see them do another game that's more fully fleshed outWow...see you all in 5-8 years if we're lucky.>they should really try something in the vein of Star Fox 2 againI agree. I've pitched an idea for a game with two, intersecting campaigns before. One would focus on StarFox going through on-rails levels. The other would focus on Cornerian forces going through all-range levels and be structured a bit like Star Fox 2.
>>739229131If you apply inflation then it's 50 dollars, so the Star Fox remake is actually a steal when you consider the original was like 60 bucks
This better kickstart a reboot, I want Fay and Miyu in their HD glory
>>739228986The Switch 2 store page for the game mentions that they will have more to say.Could just be referring to general marketing stuff, but I am hoping that Nintendo is holding back some actual new content.New missions either part of the campaign or off to the side, other multiplayer modes and/or planned post-launch support, stuff like that.
>>739235415I wish manuals were still a thing in modern vidya
>>739229557Nothing like being reminded that ESG scores are still a thing.
>>739229557I really like her new design.
>>739228986Just force 1ccs lol
>>739235415real?
>>739231241>>739230617This is something that's always been wrong with StarFox. The crew don't feel like mercenaries. They might as well just be official military.
>>739236487At least they are course correcting that though. Both in the movie and the new game, Fox mentions working for a price.
>>739237108Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything unless it actually impacts the gameplay.It would have been better to make a game starring Fox during the time between falling though a warp gate and meeting Peach.Have it where money is actually thing, where you have to do odd jobs to get the cash to afford things.Or make it sort of like Jak and Daxter 1.>Do this for me, and I'll give you credits.>Need a power cell? do this...
>>739229953There's already more than Katt's Zero design.
>>739237229There is a rumored big-budget adventure game supposed to follow up after this one either next year or 2028. Maybe part of that adventure will involve mercenary contract work?
>>739232906Terrible bait.
>>739237683Why not just make that now while the iron is hot from a popular movie?
>>739236376These are all just reasonable guesses.
>>739237792Games take time.
>>739237978So do movies. We used to somehow be able to tie in movies and games and comics and merch and all sorts of shit.Are you telling me that Nintendo didn't know what SMG was going to be about?
>>739237229>>739237792Next month's game is more true to the Star Fox series' core game design than next year's game if it actually exists. Why wouldn't they release this first?
>>739238235Are you actually fucking retarded?What do you think is quicker to put out: a remake of a short arcade game, or a big budget new game?
>>739238306Meant for>>739238120
>tendies trying to stay ahead of the news cycling and coming up with all sorts of copes on why $50 for a one hour game is actually a good thingLmfao Dedication
>>739237792Both. I believe Nintendo is making a huge Star Fox push.The first game is to reboot Star Fox. Give it a new beginning and make a modern entry point for new fans.Second game will likely be a sequel that expands on what the game this Summer has laid out.
>>739238306This might sound really crazy, so just follow along with me here. Sit down if you need to.When the movie and its script and greenlit you pass that over to a development studio and they make the game while the movie studio makes the movie.You know, how tie-ins were made?
>>739238462But people are going to say "why does he look like a weird and gross fatty and not the cool dude in the movie?"
>>739229557>woke is dea-
>>739238668Are you Chasen Lindsey? You act like him.
>Ah so this is Star Fag
>>739239194I don't know who that is and don't bother telling me.
>>739229557KHAJIT HAS WARESIF YOU HAVE COIN
>>739236097same, at least now she looks like the type to be a mercenary fighter pilot
>>739238668even a fox in space fox has more charm
>>739229557i'm guessing pink with white marks would look off in new style?
Arrr! I'll teach ye some respect!
>>739228986Good god that looks like fucking shit
>>739240079Also 500% more homoeroticism. I think I’ll stick with the remake.
>>739229557yes
>>739228986No. I fully expect this game to flop, and getting ANOTHER sf64 remake in another decade. Ensuring the series stays stagnant forever.Nintendo will 'innovate' shit like zelda, but won't make the space fighter game of all things open world.
>>739238625Yeah.That's what this is, retard.The time between the first movie coming out and now is shorter than a full scale big budget game dev cycle. That's why they pumped out a remake.
>>739241140Funniest thing Nintendo could possibly do is add Krystal to this as a fourth squad member with no elaboration.
>>739229327I can play long games over and over. Why can't they just add more levels? it's 2026, even linear games can have 8 hours of content. Don't give me 2 fucking hours of content becaues "JUST PLAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN!"
>>739229327>I'll be kind of disappointed when Rhythm Heaven comes out and it's $50-$60.? It's going to be $40 for either physical or digital
>>739230432>and if it does well you could definitely see them do another game that's more fully fleshed outThe game's gonna have a middling to poor reception, then they're gonna put the series on ice for another decade until they remake Star Fox 64 again in the movie style.They need to go the Kid Icarus Uprising route.>a metric shit-ton of weapon variants and customization, maybe even customizing your wing's gear too>scalable difficulty with equally scaled rewards, akin to what is found in Kirby, KI:U, etc.>lots and lots of chatter/banter to flesh out the world and characters>fucking move on from 64 chronologically>retcon assault/adventures/command and use this as an opportunity to introduce characters like Krystal in a more organic fashionand now more subjective fanfiction shit>steal the midgame beat from KI:U where everything gets turned on its headCorneria is compromised by the big bad, and Star Fox are labelled as wanted criminals because of it (maybe framed for assasination of Pepper or something). So they have to go on the run and reluctantly cooperate with Star Wolf while trying to figure out what the fuck is going on.
>>739242009I'm still playing 64 to this day. I'm not replaying Xenosaga.
>>739228986I think it'll be refreshing to have a straight-up arcade game with high production values for a lot of people. Everything needing to be a forever game has been really ticking me off lately.
>>739228986Every time I look at the graphics in this game the less real they look. It's like when you saw bad CG as a kid and to you it looked real because you never saw it before, but then a week later you realize it looks trashy. Especially because the underlying design work is really bad.And what is up with the giant teeth on their zippers? Each tooth on the zipper looks like the circumpherence of a pencil. Nobody makes zippers like that in real life, it looks like the zipper on a doll that's been scaled up 20 times. Maybe that shit works in a 2D design but in 3D it looks super fake. Then again, fake and uncanny looking seems to be the order of the day with this game's aesthetic.
>>739229557Every woman who changes her name to Lilith belongs in arkham asylum.
>>739243057I feel like I'm taking crazy pills seeing people defend that style, while simultaneously bashing western studios for the "realism" trend. Literally 'thing, japan' happening right now with the art direction.
>>739230432I'm so tire of hearing "we had to make 64 again to gage interest." Star Fox is the only series they do this with. Imagine if with Metroid we had to buy 3 remakes of Metroid Prime before they'd make Metroid Dread because Other M sold badly? The only remake Nintendo used to gage interest with Metroid was Samus Returns and that was a remake of an old grayscale Gameboy game that had never been remade before and had fallen into obscurity, and had never even been released in color.Star Fox 64 has been remade so many times that I can safely say it never needs to be remade again. You will never be starved for choice when trying to decide which incarnation of the original Lylat Wars story to play, and that is a bug that very few game series can boast of.
>>739229131Never play video games.
>>739236219>Just force 1ccs lolexpert mode does
>>739243231Because to a lot of console war kiddies "games don't need AAA graphics, they need style and good gameplay" is just something they repeated because it was convenient for defending Nintendo for using depreciated hardware, but they had no conviction about it when they said it. And as soon as they catch a whiff of AAA from Nintendo they will sing a completely different tune because they need AAA graphics and production value to feel validated even if it destroys the charm and aesthetics of the series it's being slapped on.Everything about this production sucks. The visuals look like generic Unreal Engine tech demo crap which does not serve the gameplay at all, and in fact reduces visibility and clarity in what is a simple arcade shmup. The gameplay loop, enemy placements and level designs are all 1:1 ported from a 30 year old N64 game with nothing to spice it up and innovate at all (for all its problems, Star Fox Zero at least had some great level designs in the arwing missions). And then you have the ugly new character designs which don't read well and have split the community. If they had done the characters right there would be almost no arguing about them, and we have the proof of that because we just got a new Fox McCloud in April who the community was fine with. And lest we forget, they hit the game's only female character with the DEI / human resources stick, which a year ago would be seen as unforgivable, but the defenders keep making excuses for it and trying to say that Katt Monroe desperately needed to be deconstructed regardless of how much fans liked her.And the last thing I want to bring up is the voice acting, because it sucks. The characters don't just look like they're in a Disney live aciton remake, they talk like it too. Slippy can't just say "help me!" he has to say "As you know, I'm an engineer and I'm busy doing science, so watch my 6!" The actors sound bored.
>>739228986I doubt they've even revealed everything. Nintendo keeps hiding stuff from games and then reveal it in another trailer. I think anything from 1-5 million is possible.
>>739243976Yeah, fucked up to know that people whose stances I thought I agreed with here were basically just lying. Style and good gamplay are more important than graphics, but turns out people were just saying that to save face.They also do this dishonest thing where they accuse you of being a furfag if you hate the new style. No man, I hate it because it looks like the first draft of the sonic movie, which the internet rightfully bullied the studio to change.
>>739241757The weirdest part is that Universal and Illumination have a movie in production that is like 90% likely to be Star Fox, and it's coming out in 2028 which means it's already in production. I think it's going to be a hit regardless of whether or not there's a popular new game out, and it's too deep in production for Nitnendo to pull the plug on it, but many industry analysts have said that Nintendo made an extremely bizarre call not coordinating more internally to make sure Fox had a consistent look in both the movie and his upcoming game. Which is especially weird because his Illumination design draws elements from basically every version of Star Fox, and looks like they put in a genuine effort to have something for everyone, but the new game design is a radical deconstruction that tries to re-imagine Fox McCloud seemingly based on an incomplete verbal description of him, and it doesn't work no matter how hard some people insist it does (a good redesign doesn't cause a war in its fandom, as we saw with the ugly movie Sonic).
>>739244434>but many industry analysts have saidName them right now or you are full of shit
>>739244434It is odd they just let illumination do that with how god damn strict they are with their IPs. I also find it ironic the one thing people didn't shit on zero for was the character design. Honestly outside of command that was a topic that had never even come up in the series until now.It's just so... odd. Was somebody complaining about the style internally? The company thats all about stylized art? Did they secretly hire a disney exec in the past year or something? Just feels completely out of place for the company who even redesigned donkey kong to look more cartoony.
>>739244527Here are some.https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2026/05/06/star-fox-fans-disturbed-by-fox-mcclouds-switch-2-redesign/https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/star-fox-64-remake-sparks-debate-over-design-changes/gm-GM930B66B1?gemSnapshotKey=GM930B66B1-snapshot-15&uxmode=rubyhttps://www.polygon.com/star-fox-redesign-reaction/https://www.powerhits95.com/2026/05/07/star-fox-fans-are-slamming-fox-mcclouds-redesign-in-the-nintendo-switch-2-remake/
>>739244780I think it's a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. The choice to include Fox in Mario Galaxy would have had to be made about 3 years ago, because Illumination's pipeline on production is about 3 years. Star Fox 26 was probably rushed into production sometime shortly after that, and rather than having a brand manager go back and forth between the two studios to make sure the game was on brand for Star Fox, Nintendo went fully hands-off other than a couple specific mandates (it has to be 64's gameplay exactly with no changes, it has to look photorealistic, the arwing has to fit the SF64 verison's silhouette, etc.) and the end result is that you have two conflicting visions for the IP's aesthetic. Illumination went for broad all ages appeal, and whoever is making SF26 wanted to appeal to graphics whores to show off the Switch 2 hardware, and they wanted to make sure they convey the seriousness of what they were making instead of letting the saturday morning cartoon influence seep in.The end result is that we got two very different Fox McClouds in the same year who are irreconcilably different.
>>739242009Shorter games are much easier to replay. If a game can be beaten in a single 2 hour sitting, I'm far more likely to replay it on a semi-regular basis than some 10-20+ hour game that requires several sessions to beat.Also, Star Fox 64 has much more than 2 hours of content if you actually try to beat every single level instead of just going through the easy route once and dropping it. Each playthrough will take 2 hours and you'll have to replay it at least 4 times to beat every level, assuming no game overs. Even more if you want to medal every level rather than just beat them.
Everspace 2... but Starfox
>>739245068Star Fox 64 can be beaten in 45 minutes. On the hardest track it usually takes me closer to an hour but it's a very short game and I think that's going to shock a lot of people.
>>739229131
>>739245173>Star Fox 64 can be beaten in 45 minutes.Maybe if you're speedrunning and skipping every cutscene and have the whole game memorized back to front to get the fastest possible route.
>>739228986Multiple paths, story arcs, true ending, different vehicles, good va, hard mode, pvp local, pvp onlineIf its lacking any of the above fuckoff im going back to playing starfox assaultThats the baseline bare minimum, i refuse to deal with any slop past that just because of new game and better visuals.Now, if you really want to impress me. highscores, unlockable pilots, minigames, co-op, art gallerys, exploring planets, time trials, and maybe new vehicles. Tired of paying for mediocre product that i could get back when, for like 40 buck at gamestop used or new.
>>739229557I need you all to understand that if we ever get Krystal, this means that she WILL NOT be blue. The design philosophy here shows that they want to use more realistic colors for each of the species, with the makeup areas under Katt's eyes being pink to serve as a mere nod to her original color scheme. Krystal will more than likely be some sort of grey or silver fox with blue highlights somewhere, nor will she have a hairdo anymore,beyond a tuft like Katt- she will match all the other characters
>>739228986Modest success at best. I don't see it having a very strong tail, like others have said I think new audiences may be blindsided by the game's length (most normgroids don't understand the concept of replayability) and write the game/series off.It'll probably outsell SF0 by virtue of not being on the Wii U and having normal controls, but I don't see it bringing in very many new fans longterm.
>>739245173Nobody is beating it that fast on their first playthrough. This is like saying castlevania 1 is a 20 minute game. 'Technically' true, but not for a first timer.
>>739245290>Multiple paths, story arcs, true ending, different vehicles, good va, hard mode, pvp local, pvp onlineIt's a 1:1 remake of SF64, so it will have all of these things because SF64 did. The direct already showcased multiplayer, too.
>>739229131That qoute is from 1990 and taking into account inflation, that would be 50,- today.So starfox would fit that qouteAlso suck cock and faggot etc etc
>>739245580Ew why>direct 1to1Thank you for saving me money kind anon
>>739229992Thing is most people have a 100+ game backlog, SF64 did well in the blockbuster rental era partly because it's a great rental game (like mario tennis) and partly because there was hardly anything else to play on the N64, especially at the time of release. The switch 2, on the other hand, has 15000+ games on the eshop.>>739230105It's kind of a bold approach to focus on a 4 v 4 mode, since it would be harder to get full lobbies than just a 4 player one like the original.
>>739245267The cutscenes really aren't that long. They're just little intros with establishing shots and a line or two of dialogue, and in total they only make up a few minutes on a full run.Obviously Nintendo is hoping to leverage the new cutscenes in the remake as being a added value that makes the game longer, but after people have seen all of them, they're going to skip them because they're an interruption to the game loop, especially considering they were very short and snappy in the original. How many times are people going to want to hear Fox say "then we'll have to take the Lylat System back one planet at a time." anyway? Long cutscenes in an arcade game seems like somehting out of the era of early CD rom games like on the Turbo CD and Sega CD. They were trying to demonstrate value by including FMV but what people really wanted was richer and more ambitious experiences that really took advantage of the technology, and the problem was that the tech was ready before the game designers were.The fact that SF26 is a 1:1 remake of SF64 with new, longer cutscenes bolted onto it is the same trap that those old CD games had, except it's being done as a design choice. Modern technology has to be shoehorned into a 1997 game without changing the gameplay, which means it's only being used for graphics and cutscenes. Star Fox 64 was never meant to have 5 minute long interruptions to the gameplay and most people are going to skip them after the first time they've seen them.
>>739235176>hyper realistic miyu and fay with stumpy legs and SBI uglyficationNo thanks
I'm mostly interested in the multiplayer
>>739245901Not to mention what horrors they'd do to Krystal. You know some HR karen has been chomping at the bit to desexualize her for 20 years. >>739245425
I unironically think assault was the right direction for the series. Basically furry battlefront.The two big complaints for assaults were:>no branching paths>on foot controlled like assNoticeably people didn't have a problem with on foot sections existing, but that they controlled poorly. A proper not rushed out the door attempt at that style would work well for the series. Sort of like how battlefront 2 took everything from the first game and massively improved on it.
>>739237620Not because of the design being more appealing, but because the porn grift is far more widespread than it was in 2016, other examples are puss in boots, spyro, crash and AC, all of those franchises used to have hardly any porn until the last wish, the N. Sane trilogy, the reignited trilogy and new horizons came out.
>>739244434look, mario movie fox is simply not accurate to the original fox, but I'd say it's his design and expressions that stole the show
>>739245812>The cutscenes really aren't that long. They're just little intros with establishing shots and a line or two of dialogue, and in total they only make up a few minutes on a full run.Fair enough, but still, I don't think I've ever beaten SF64 in under an hour and I've been playing it off and on for 30 years. A new player isn't remotely going to get through it that fast, especially considering game overs and such.
>>739228986Isn't the game $40 it's basically a 3DS game price
I dunno OP, but I will say the announcement made me replay the original after decades and I must say, the game fucking slaps. No wonder I was obsessed with it as a seven year old. A bid draw that I think Nintendo fails to realize with this game is that it is a sort of compilation of science fiction setpieces condensed into very well paced levels.And so I have no desire to play the remake.
>>739246074There's several viable directions for the series to go in, but all of them require that Nintendo take some actual risks and put in some effort. Nintendo doesn't want to do that, so they'll keep outsourcing SF64 remakes/remixes until one of them does big numbers (lol).
>>739246074And to be fair to Star Fox Assault, third person shooters were still in their infancy especially on consoles. The only ones I can think of from the time off the top of my head that actually still control well are Max Payne and Battlefront. The gamecube controller really wasn't built for shooters, either, and I think the devs were trying to not ask too much of the player with them. That, and the campaign ground assault levels had to be built around the multiplayer levels, which were great as PVP arenas but weren't terribly well suited for objective based single player missions.Assault is still my favorite Star Fox game though, and it has some great bones that should have been iterated upon. Nintendo didn't trust anyone to iterate on Star Fox though, they just retreated to safety and now the IP is never allowed to be anything more than a simple arcade shmup with exactly one storyline and no more.
>>739238668I'm 100% certain the adventure game is being worked on by a different studio, maybe even a japanese one. The remake is all but confirmed to be worked on by a western studio, I wouldn't be surprised if it was by forever entertainment since shitty remakes that completely misunderstand the aesthetics of the originals are their bread and butter.
>>739240235>that mawYou can tell this artist draws vore
>>739246074>>739246323Yeah, the biggest hurdle Star Fox faces is the fact that it doesn't receive the same kind of investment that a Zelda or Mario does. I think we would all be on board with a Battlefront 2 esque Star Fox, but making it would require time and resources that Nintendo has never devoted to the series.
>>739229557new design is objectively better
>>739243412That's because Metroid didn't flop 3 times in a row.
>>739243057No? I have a tactical vest with size 10 zippers. I've even seen size 20.
Did Nintendo REALLY design star fox?I know the narrative is that Imamura designed the star fox characters while Miyamoto developed the game, and Argonaut only contributed the FX chip and "co-developed", but that just seems like marketing and ego-projection to me? I've been hearing rumors that the entire star fox game and universe was developed by Argonaut, and Nintendo just put their branding on it. It really does make sense, considering that Nintendo is incapable of doing anything with the IP besides rebooting 64. Considering garbage like pic rel is what we get when Nintendo tries to promote the game on their own, I feel like the rumors have some truth to them. Imamura drew this, looked at it, and said "yeah, this is the right way to get people interested in my sci-fi game about space mercenaries".
>>739246361I hope you're right. I would love another Star Fox adventure game, hell I'd even take a Star Fox Adventures remake, but I don't want it to have these awful new character designs.If I was to give some hopium to people who are not happy about Star Fox '26, it could very well be that Nintendo is putting out two very different Star Fox games to figure out what the fans respond to. Do they want a straight up remake of Star Fox 64 with gritty "scientifically accurate" AAA visuals that look like some generic American studio made them, or do they want an adventure game where Fox spends a lot of time outside his ship and it has more of that classic east-meets-west flavor that the older games had, with more conventionally appealing character designs?I think that'd be a dumb business move but maybe Nintendo has their own way they intend to grade the performance on the two games, if there is a second game in development. And the second game would likely be coming out somewhat closely timed with the Star Fox movie in 2028.
>>739246724god fucking dammit I'd take japified am I kawaii uguu shit over rejected taxidermy specimens any day
>>739246504You are objectively a faggot.
>>739246583Yep, it flopped 14 times out of 17.
>>739229131Inflation*mic drop*
>already showed off the map, so no new levels>multi-player is built around fox vs wolf, so now new characters Literally the only new things they could have at this point would be customizable arwings (based on a single shot in the trailer) or a James campaign, and I wouldn't bet too much on either.
>>739229131>Never pay for a videogame.FTFY
>>739246812>so now new characterscould have thrown in katt and her crew at least
>>739246812>>739246891pretty sure you can see more characters underneath star fox and star wolf team in the direct
>>739244168I still remember when RGT 85 was coping about skyward sword being rereleased for 60 dollars saying "there's no way they will charge full price for an old game with no new content" and as it turns out, it had no new content. Let's face it, Nintendo pretty much only does 1:1 remakes with rare exceptions.
>>739246940I doubt they’d be anyone new. It’s probably going to be Bill, Katt, Rob, plus some goofy literally-who no one asked for. The Cow from Mario Kart World has a higher chance of being playable than a new character.
>>739246656I haven't really seen any evidence that Imamura didn't design the characters, they've been pretty consistent throughout the years. However, the level designs in Star Fox were all designed by Argonaut, and they're better than the ones in Star Fox 64. Some of the ships and enemies were designed by Nintendo but the graphics, gameplay and level designs were Argonaut's. Argonaut very much deserves credit as the primary developer of the game even though the window dressing was made by Nintendo's people.And while I know things were a bit different back in '93, I think it's kind of shitty that Argonaut doesn't get their name mentioned in the original game until the end credits. When I was a kid I had no idea that a second studio was involved with Star Fox, let alone as the main developer, I just assumed it was made by Nintendo because that's the only name I saw when I booted up the game.
>>739246656The thing is Starfox does feel kinda like a UK comic idea. The mood is kinda what you'd expect from the time considering how the UK Sonic was handled. Plus things like Bucky o'Hare.Plus people already mentioned Elite (another British game) that I bet influenced them as well.
>>739247070Literally what the fuck does Zelda have to do with Star Fox? Zelda is Zelda too, anyone who doesn't minimum expect OOT remake to be $70 are tedious retards. There's plenty of reasons why Nintendo wants to push Star Fox on the other hand so they have a "new" IP they can rely on for sales
>>739246940You're probably thinking of the avatar section
>>739247147Nintendo were salty a bunch of Bong teens did what they couldn't
>>739243412I mean 3D and Zero weren't that.3D was Q Games getting cucked out of making a Command sequel because the execs gave them a short time frame to develop it. Zero did SNES and 64isms because it was a rushed project to get Miyamoto's stupid prototype out the door before the Switch.
Wasn't the N64 game a similar price or higher? And that was before 30 years of inflation. If a short arcade rail shooter was fine or that price then it should be fine now.
>>739247717No nigga, gaming has changed in the last 30 years.
>>739241140Keep dreaming
>>739244434I'd wager that the 2028 movie is donkey kong
>tendies really think a 45 minute game is going to do wellJesus Christ you people pride yourselves in being able to sink lower and lower each time.
>>739248685This but with huge tits
For me it was Sector Y/Aquas/Zoness/Macbeth/Area 6
>>739236097>>739239679
>>739237930Fara is not reasonable.
>>739249427>This but with huge titsI don't see that happening in this day and age.
>>739249603I wanna see it.
>>739249603>savage blue gremlinnoice
>>739247717Back in the 90s you could ask full price for a rail shooter. 20 hours was considered to be a very long game back then, and was pretty much solely jrpg territory.
>>739249603They gave Zelda a fat ass and all the Xeno games are full of fat tits.
>>739246786There's an artist on twitter that made a rendition of Krystal that makes her resemble an anime girl, honestly, I'd be fine with all the characters getting that treatment, turning fox and wolf into bishounens and the like
>>739248685Since Nintendo is going for "scientifically accurate animals" shouldn't Krystal have a couple of additional bras?
>>739247113If I had to guess it'd be Yaru the tutorial tanuki
>>739250206Those games are made in Japan. Star Fox is always outsourced to the West.
Who, that was introduced to Fox McCloud for the first time with the Mario movie is going to look at this game and be excited to get more of the character?
>>739248685>>739249603She wouldn't even blue, if they de-pinked cat she'd just look like a crack addict fox with blue eyeliner.
>>739249240Up until now nintendo shovelware has been doing pretty good... right up until mario tennis, so it's hard to tell since the switch 2 doesn't have the attach rate switch 1 games do, even mario kart tanked after it stopped being bundled
>>739249240>AAA graphics don't matter.>cutscenes don't matter.>What matters is gameplay and innovation!>OMG look at them graphics!>NEW HOLLYWOOD-STYLE CUTSCENES!? Inject that shit into my veins!>The core gameplay is a 30 year old port and nothing has changed? Acceptable.
>>739250314Except Assault, no wonder the characters looked the hottest they've ever looked in that one
>>739249003It might be but there's no real way of knowing until they announce it. We do know that both are in development.
>>739250352>She wouldn't even blue,So, more like this then.
>>739250772they would make her black huh
>>739250772>"Ayo, fox let me holla at ya shorty, mmm hmm"
>>739250646When was the Zelda movie announced anyway? In any case we should get confirmation of whatever the 2028 movie is sometime this year, maybe even in the june direct, on that note, the june direct will probably announce the Zelda cast.
>>739250352She won't be blue, and she won't have "hair" either
>>739250852>krystal played by zendaya in the movie
>>739250852Either that, or grey
>>739250314The last three games were all developed in Japan.
>>739250918Or worse, that black bong from Steven Universe.
>>739250772>People implying they'd be mad about this in a tribal bikini
>>739241140gotta love how mindbroken people are over krystal even today
>>739246358How was shooters in its infancy by the mid 2000s?>>739246074>I unironically think assault was the right direction for the series. Basically furry battlefront.Assault did not play at all like battlefront.i don't think it was the right direct since to my knowledge no game seemed to have taken inspiration from it either aspects or a even a spiritual successor. Star fox inspired titles also don't go the assault route but on rails gameplay. So if it was so right, why hasn't Nintendo been proven wrong?
>>739251067If she looked like this>>739248685 in addition to being black there would be a riot in the streets and you know it
>>739250864The Zelda movie was announced in 2023, whoever the pipeline for a live action film, especially as part of a new collaboration, is usually much slower than making an animated film at a studio that already has a pipeline for it. Animated films frequently take 5 years or longer to make, however Universal Animation has a very fast pipeline with Dreamworks and Illumination. Illumination generally only needs 3 years to make an animated movie because they are very fast and efficient, whereas Disney takes 5 to 10 years and they always have to have something in production with multiple teams and directors overseeing different 5 year projects so they can release something every year.
>>739251147the thing that gets me is how inoffensive Krystal is as a character. She doesn't do enough to be worthy of hate. Well except for in Command, but everyone was an asshat in that game, not just Krystal.
>>739250967Grey foxes aren't foxes.
>>739251160I would be laughing my ass off. Not sure why you're mad.
>>739229327>$50 is considered a "budget title" too nowadaysBut it’s a fortune to the average unemployed /v/igger still living I his mom’s basement.
>>739251257She wasn't even that bad in Command, players just get asshurt when the girl is mean to your avatar.
>>739251156A multi-mode game like Assault is too big for an indie title. And it did influence other games, you're just not looking at the ways it influenced them. Wild Assault is a hero shooter with anthro characters however it doesn't have vehicles, and then you have several rail shooters with anthro characters that don't have on foot gameplay. The common denominator is that having both on-foot and space gameplay is a big undertaking that needs to be handled by a larger studio with a multi-million dollar budget, and it's too ambitious for a small indie studio to pull off. The multiplayer in Star Fox Assault was very battlefront-adjacent, it was just missing an online mode.
>>739251259Yeah well Fox McCloud isn't a cumulus nimbus either so fuck off?
>>739248685Would
>>739238668That is just a fox with fur? Foxes have fur around their neck. And the lighting from that scene is rising up, making the snout/chin less visible.
>>739251506you'll get fleas
>>739238668>"Okay, so this guy has what's called a high snoutal tilt. That's the angle of the snout as it leaves the face. It doesn't help that he has a high muzzle source, meeting the face way up above the eyes. Ideally this would be at eye level or preferably at the lower eye lid.">"What doesn't help at all is the muzzletic spread, which is how wide the mouth is. Ideally this would be narrow from a frontal view, not wide. This is a real bad case of frog mouth on this guy.">"And then there's the lower jaw, which basically doesn't exist. Looks like... An inch or so. A fox should have at least three or four inches of snout.">"Overall, this guy is doomed. I don't think even snout extension surgery would help because of that frog mouth.">"Basically, 2/10. Over before it even began. Poor guy."
>>739238668He looks like Bolsonaro
>>739251616Kek
>>739228986the notion that an entire genre can be outdated is exactly how we ended up with a AAA industry that makes only linear movie games or open world slop
>>739251785I mean corporations just go where the money is. If the average "gamer" didn't consume movie game slop like their favorite soda we wouldn't be in this situation.
>>739251897is this why the last metroid did so well?
>>739251785It can be outdated culturally in terms of it being a full-price game with a large budget. Not to mention things like how lives and saves work.
>>739251616I read this imagining that it's Fox McCloud from the movie being asked to review Fox from Star Fox 26.
>>739251616>>"What doesn't help at all is the muzzletic spread, which is how wide the mouth is. Ideally this would be narrow from a frontal view, not wide. This is a real bad case of frog mouth on this guy."you hit the fucking nail on its head. his whole mouth opens as though it were a flappy puppet and that's seriously off-putting on a detailed 9th gen model
Im kinda expecting a kidicarus situation. A twist that continues the game after the original campaign ends
>>739251897consumers can only consume what is put in front of them, and when they're fed the same shit multiple generations in a row their tastes are molded by that same shit. it's a sloppification feedback loop
>>739252042That's not going to happen anon, its a budget title for a reason.
>>739252026Fox from the movie would totally land on a planet and find a hot native chick and bang her.Fox McChud would just give her the ick.
>>739238668as a gay 30+yo furry I like how he looks, very sexy and relatable
>>739252236no, it's all sorts of wrong. see >>739251616 for in-depth explanation
>>739252191>Fox from the movie would totally land on a planet and find a hot native chick and bang her.isn't this the plot from star fox adventuresthey should make a movie out of this
>>739251616>>739252516Just looksmaxx cringe.
>>739239396comparing nuKatt to khajiit is an insult to khajiit
>>739252665>isn't this the plot from star fox adventuresYes, that's why I said it.
>>739233179>>739245253>>739245659>>739246809Inflation isn't real
>>739228986If its over $5 i'm sailing the three W's instead
>>739245253Adjusting for increases in median salary instead of inflation, it comes out to $40.
>>739228986Only if the multiplayer mode is really good and somehow becomes popular (it won't)
>>739252925Money isn't real.
>>739228986That new Donkey Kong game is 6 hours long and sold well, so probably.People get desperate when there's nothing else available.
>>739246656Imamura is still drawing (he draws something almost every day) and his art looks the same as it did back then.https://x.com/ima_1966
>>739252516i'm super right thoIf you are not facing your own aging as a fag you're gonna have issues. Most men aren't pretty, even if they try hard. You must learn to like, accept it.If you aren't a gayfag stfu about fox current looks, you don't know shit.
>>739228986No, they need to add a hundred hours of cutscenes, dialogue choices, decisions that affect your morality meter, dozens of required tasks for each stage that you can only complete one at a time, and an entire separate mode that can only be completed online.
>>739253032
>>739229131>this tranny faggot pays for children's toys
>>739228986It is in fact bad value (and always was) because of how short it is.They could simply make it longer/bigger. More levels, more missions, more modes, gameplay customization.Would certainly be money/effort better spent than going for Mario if he real grafics.
>>739252191It's true.
>>739253290People forget that Star Fox 64 included a rumble pack which is part of why people were okay paying $80 for it. Back then we had a lot fewer games though, and many people rented it because it was great for a weekend.
>>739253726yeah I rented it and couldnt justify buying it.did get starfox SNES from a yard sale at least.
>>739228986>sells at $50-$60 be successful in 2026Why does it need to? Just sell it for 20-30 and don't spend a bajillion dollars on it.
>>739252770I hope they replace the weird tiara with a bindi.
>trying to force the meme that SF26 is uglyObviously a lot of samefagging going on.
>>739254247if its being developed in the uk, she'll be in a hijab
>>739254358You guys are obsessed, can you fuck off and let me have fun?
>>739253791I borrowed it from a friend a lot but I never bought it until I was an adult and found it in a used game shop for $15. I emulated it a lot before then but likewise, I loved to game but I didn't think it was worth buying at full price since it was just an arcade game I could beat in an hour once I'd seen all the levels. I got a lot more hours in with the SNES game.I did love Star Fox Adventures though and even though it didn't offer the replay value that 64 did, it was a much longer and more story rich game and at the time I thought it offered a lot more bang for the buck, especially since SF64 was $80 in '97 ($40 when it got a Player's Choice release) and Adventures was $50 in 2002, 5 years later. I think the vast majority of people would agree in hindsight that 64 was a better game but when I was a tween, if you asked me which game I'd rather have I would have picked Adventures. Maybe that speaks to why Star Fox has always had such an identity crises, every time it tries to do something to expand the formula and offer a better value to the player, a section of the fandom will always sneer at it and say they just want more Star Fox 64, while other people will question why the series is stuck chasing its own tail instead of growing and expanding.
>>739228986these two games are going to actively kill the trend of remakes/remasters for a long time, trust me.
>>739230354That already exist with starfox on it. Its called battle for atlas
>>739254501I really hope you're right. They both seem equally out of touch and lifeless and I'm glad both of them are getting a lot of pushback from the fans.
>>739229557she looks like a total skank for human men
>>739254247>>739254358Really live her assault appearance Especially her hair beads
>>739254698Love*
>>739254698it is by far her best design.
>>739254698Fan artists started drawing her hair beads and white highlights in her Adventures design too because they compliment her overall look so well.
This whole backlash is a load minority of autists who can't accept change.Starfox26 will crack 2 million easy.
I like the new design.
>>739238668Same reason Mario looks different, it's a different media with its own style.
>>739228986Sadly people (Nintendo cultists) will buy it just because it's "new" Nintendo thing even if it's an overpriced pointless remake with a bad artstyle and they're aware of that.
Why would kids even want to play this?
>>739255223I dunno, will they even recognize nuFox and Galaxy Fox as the same character?
>>739254698Krystal is personally the design of Miyamoto, he would be enraged for the first time in years if they change her like they did Kat. Miyamoto is still Japanese, there are things he still cares about, like his blue Kitsune spirit animal.
>>739255223>>739255295it's a talking animal in a spaceship going pew pew
Still too furry for my taste, needs to be more realistic.Also not paying for a Star Fox remake unless it's less than $40.
>>739255306It would be so funny if they brought Krystal back with zero design changes while everyone else looks like a freak.
>>739228986its short in the sense that the basic campaign is indeed 'short'. However its short on purpose so you can do a whole run in one sitting. Its main drawcard for longevity is that you can unlock loads of new zones to conquer the campaign differently, multiple endings, secret paths within the same missions, loads of secret bosses etc.Thats the entire point of the game, layers beneath the surface that you have to unlock. Has OP not played any of the OG starfox games ever?That being said, Starfox has needed a NEW game, thats purely a starfighter+vehicular combat game, quite badly, for a decade+ now.Also a new F-Zero please on mainline console and/or PC please.
Why do so many remakes makes the characters so lifeless with their glazed over eyes?And why so much terrible lighting?Played Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy which also suffered these same problems.
>>739241757Every time they tried dong something new or continuing the story the gamers revolted and raged. Why bother doing something new when the fans lose their shit every time?
>>739238668The new designs are growing on me. They just had a weak initial showing.
>>739255763lol no they’re not, that’s just the consoom gene in you percolating like a fag
>>739230432I thought Assault was really good. The on foot parts didnt feel great but they weren't as bad as they are made out to be. I think Zero wasnt awful but they fucked up with the two screens approach and also Wii U in general.I mean the the Cube and the Wu weren't exactly lighting the world on fire anyway. Resident Evil Remake "sold like shit" in 2002 and then blew up when it was ported to everything in 2015. Mario Kart 8 salsa on Wii U vs Switch. The consoles had a lot to do with it.
>>739255684Remaking the game last time also flopped. Almost like the issue is they keep phoning in every post-64 title or tacking on stupid gimmicks. No, clearly it's the setting that's the issue. Better remake 64 again!
>>739228986I would if>it was a new fucking game and not starfox64 4>the designs didnt suck dick>ere's going to be a lot of pissed off newcomers to the series that will be permanently soured on the IP if they reach the credits in 1-2 hours.Then have more than 2 hours of content? Routes? NG+ with extra story? Plenty of ways to make it a 20 hour experience.
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>>739255520Modern normalfag audiences want depressive shit in their media not fun full-of-life things
>>739254895Okay so if it's just a bunch of whiny manbabies who complain about everything, why was there no backlash against Fox McCloud in the Mario Galaxy movie?If this was a brand new Star Fox game with the classic characters people would have been happy even if it was playing it safe with the gameplay. The fact that there is a lot of arguing shows that Nintendo lost the plot on this one and failed to read the room. It doesn't matter if you like it and you hate everyone who doesn't like it, that's still a failure in terms of marketing for a game that was supposed to be playing it safe.
>>739249603>bipedal digitigradeDisgusting
>>739256054>why was there no backlash against Fox McCloud in the Mario Galaxy movie?The kind of people who don't like stuff like that (me, for example) didn't watch the movie and were annoyed when Miyamoto made us watch it.
>>739256054Because all the people with good taste didn’t watch the shit movie that caters to whiny manbabies.
>>739255387I think a straight remake/ remaster of Star Fox should be $30 and it should have been a cross-platform release. I am not paying $500 to experience an ugly "realistic" remake of a game I've had for almost 30 years.
>>739255937Their answer is online multiplayer modes, challenge objectives, and a bunch of cutscenes that change based on your route.>That's not enoughI'm just saying, that's what they're doing.
>>739254501This trend of remakes exist since the Snes and isn't going away anytime soon, cope.
>>739255916How was Assault phoning it in or full of gimmicks?
>>739242116I mean I hope it's $40, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was $50. Like Fever was $40 on the Wii which was way less than a normal game, I think Megamix was $40 on the 3DS which was standard even though it was still a digital game, so I assume the new one is going to cost more, but still less than an average physical game so like about $50 at least.
>>739255975Fox x Krystal should be called "Fox McKrystal"
>>739256182The challenges in Star Fox 26 are all ported over from Star Fox 64, it's just medals except now you can instantly access levels you've cleared and there's a tracker for the challenges. It's adding nothing to the overall value, it's just a quality of life feature.The multiplayer mode is gonna be dead faster than Star Wars Squadrons. Nintendo is not going to support it with new content and people are going to get bored when the initial novelty wears off and the lack of variety kicks in.
>>739255937Playing through every single level at least one time as a new player is already a 20 hour experience. Why does no one understand this?
>>739256431>Playing through every single level at least one time as a new player is already a 20 hour experience.That's a five hour experience MAX
>>739256393The challenges have nothing to do with medals. You’ve never even played Star Fox 64, stop posting.
>>739228986Ace combat 7 was a massive success
>>739256393>The challenges in Star Fox 26 are all ported over from Star Fox 64No, they're an entirely new feature, more like achievements. One of the challenges they showcased in the direct was "destroy the lone red shogun." This has nothing to do with getting a medal and has no equivalent in the original game.
>>739256393No? The game never asked you to do most of this, a lot of these aren't medal objectives.
>>739256484Medals and alternate paths all involve meeting specific in-mission conditions and from what we saw of the challenge mode, the challenges are all the same as earning medals and alternate paths / outcomes. One programmer could have come up with the challenge mod in an afternoon, it's an absolutely pitiful value added feature compared to new levels, bosses and all range battles.
>>739228986Yeah. Length doesn't matter all that much to people so long as the game is good. See RE Requiem.
>>739256584Those are natural goals by playing the game itself, also you don't get shit for doing any of this, its just achievement bait.
>>739256618>It's cheap contentYes.>It's the same as the existing medalsNo.
>>739256584Those are all things that the player gets prompted and/or rewarded for in the original game either directly or secretly, they just made a quest tracker for them.
>>739256431>>739256478I think with the standards of current year for game length, the alternate levels shouldn't be optional to reach the end of the game. They should all be incorporated into one linear campaign.>>739256627Resident Evil Requiem is a 12+ hour game for most players. Not even remotely comparable.
>>739256478Only if...>you never game over>you already know how to unlock the path to every level>you play as efficiently as possible and essentially speedrun itEven as an experienced SF64 player who DOES know how to access every level and can do it with ease, I don't think I could play through the number of runs it takes to beat every single level at least once in less than 5 hours. That's WITHOUT dying, WITHOUT game overs, and WITHOUT having to experiment and hunt for level paths.
>>739256678see >>739256584These are all challenges from the original game, there just wasn't any official in-game tracker for them. It's a QOL feature, not content.
>>739256737Btw, I say this because I think it's unrealistic to expect most players to go back and try different approaches after they've already beaten the final boss and seen the last cutscene and end credits.This game will be judged for the first playthrough.
>>739256737>They should all be incorporated into one linear campaign.This would be fun as an unlockable extra game mode (maybe for getting every medal since Expert isn't tied to that any more), but the branching paths are one of the best features of the original game and iconic to the experience, so it should never be the primary mode.
>>739256654Ah yes, I remember when I naturally made a four ship formation in Sector Y.Fuck are you talking about, dude
>>739256278Assault needed another year in the oven at least. If for nothing else to add some replay value with branching paths and tighten up the controls.
>>739256279Anon its literally up for preorder for 40
>>739228986No. Mostly because it looks like shit and has made essentially zero interesting changes to its original version though.
>>739256846If someone plays through the easy route and gets the bad ending and then just puts down the game forever and complains it was too short, that's on them for being utterly retarded. The WHOLE POINT of the game is replaying it and seeing all the levels and getting high scores and getting the true ending.
>>739256928>Ah yes, I remember when I naturally made a four ship formation in Sector Y.That is LITERALLY something that happens automatically in the level if all of your teamates are alive.
>>739256928There's a part in Sector Y where your teammates all fly up in a diamond formation and if you complete the formation you get some items to spawn. That's always been in the game.
>>739256789>Telling me to look at my own postGoddamn you're retarded.>It doesn't COUNTYeah, it's cheap content, but it's not the medals from 64. Don't say stupid shit.
>>739257073But that's not where gaming is now.
>>739257159>That's always been in the gameBullshit.
>>739257073This kind of stubborn purist attitude isn't going to make the series more popular.This is 2026. You have to think about how most people experience full priced games, especially games with stories/cutscenes. This style of game isn't in style anymore outside of the indie space.A lot of people are going to reach the ending, think "wow that was short, what a waste of money, fuck Star Fox" and move on to something else.
>>739256278Assault was "let's make a shitty multiplayer shooter oh but fuck we need a game as well uh uh uh shit something out eh good enough who cares"
>>739257178I understand why people don't replay 20-50 hour games, or why they don't replay linear cinematic games with nothing new to see, but are people actually so fucking stupid that they would buy a game, experience 25% of the levels, get a bad ending that teases you that there's a better one, and then just put the game down and say there's nothing more to do?
>>739257215Go boot up the game or watch a video, I'm not here to handhold an underage troll.
>>739257239Yeah. It'll get the Order 1886 treatment.>>739257330Yes, because people expect:1. play game2. get to end of game3. end of game is end of game
>>739257239>A lot of people are going to reach the ending, think "wow that was short, what a waste of money, fuck Star Fox" and move on to something else.Those people should be rounded up and killed by firing squad, the world would be better off.
>>739254698LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED GUN
>>739257491
>>739257476>watch Fellowship of the Ring>never watch the other movies>complain that LOTR sucks because FOTR had an unsatisfying ending and nothing was resolvedThat's literally what this sounds like.
>>739257572that's not the same at all you troglodyte
>>739257101>>739257159Well fuck my ass I guess.
>>739257073>unc still thinks he's in the '90sthis unc mad old frfr
>>739257239I would rather Star Fox die than make itself shit so it can sell.
>>739256846Personally I don't think the reviews are going to be very good for this game. It will get high marks as a tech demo / graphical benchmark on the system but the game itself is going to get slapped for being a poor value, especially when you can already play Star Fox 64 on NSO. It's a 30 year old game with a 2026 coat of paint and a price tag that's way too high for what it is.It's gonna be a 6/10 and even if the reviews don't take issue with the visual style mismatch, they are definitely going to bring up that it's not offering enough bang for the buck.
>>739257747I'm more unc than him I bet and even I understand where gaming is now and what people expect.
>>739257624It is, though. You got to the credits after playing only a handful of available levels AND THEN ANDROSS LAUGHED AT YOU FOR BEING A SHITTER. If you stop playing at that moment and don't understand that you should play again and try to get a better ending you're just plain retarded and I have no sympathy for someone that stupid.
>>739257757You missed the Nintendo bonus so it will be 8.5 or 9 /10
>>739257752Or it can just understand where gaming is and adjust accordingly. See: >>739230617>>739231241>>739231671
>>739257869>don't understand that you should play again and try to get a better ending y"Why do I have to play again? Sounds like padding to me. Why can't I just beat him?" t. modern gamer
>>739254938>have to draw him ugly to force the meme
>>739257239I think it's ironic that some people are being purists towards 64 with the mindset of "if you don't like the short campaign structure then you're not meeting the game on its own terms and thus are playing it wrong" but they're more than happy to see the character designs get butchered in the name of realism. That's what people mean when they say the game is trying to have it both ways and failing. It doesn't look or sound nostalgic but the gameplay slavishly adheres to the original, to a fault.I would rather have had a new game with the classic character designs than an old game with deconstructed character designs. We're getting the worst of both worlds.
>>739257974Fucking Cotton Hill legs.
>>739258071Animalistic, not realistic.These are still forest creatures piloting space ships.
>>739228986why not make it a long as fuck railer to justify the price
>>739257890>"Where gaming is currently">First example is super niche space sims that struggle even now.Yeah, dude. Totally.
>>739257890Terrible logic.If they wanted money they'd remake SFA as a third person shooter.
>>739257881Same with how Banjo Kazooie Nute and Bolts is a travesty and an insult and 2/10 and it killed the franchise, but BOTW/TOTK is 10/10 perfection.
>>739257970Yeah, I just have zero interest in seeing people who think like that being catered to in any way. Like another anon said, I'd rather Star Fox just die than compromise itself to that degree.
>>739258435Well, since you're such a purist you're against this remake entirely as it's a waste of time and money when they can just release SF64 for $5, right?
>>739258545I'm still going to buy and play the remake because the gameplay is faithful and all the graphics and designs aside from the characters themselves look really nice.
>>739258210What was wrong with letting them have humanoid bodies? That's how they were since 1993.
>>739258690I can't figure that out, either. I really hate the proportions of the new designs, especially since they insist on realistic animal legs but have no problem giving Fox thumbs or Falco feather fingers.
>>739258545you can play SF64 natively on PC right now for freehttps://github.com/harbourmasters/starship
>>739258326I'm not going to defend the nu zeldas (didn't even bother with totk when I saw it was a lazy asset flip), but nuts and bolts was straight up hostile to it's fans.It spends the first 10 minutes introducing a new OC that's the writers self insert, who proceeds to go "hey collectathons suck ass, nobody wants those anymore!". Before forcing you into a strawman 'collectathon' mission, just so the OC can say "see, I told you those suck, let's do this instead!" and starting the game proper.It's incredibly spiteful, Rare would have to issue a public apology to fans if they tried that shit today.
>>739258545I'd rather they made something new and cool, desu. I don't even really want a rail shooter for their next game. Zero made me realize it'll always be a pale imitation.I just think you're argument that they need to cater to the audience is cancer.
>>739258789It's what happens when you do design by committee. It probably all started with someone at Nintendo saying "make Fox look realistic, like Rocket Raccoon." Of course Rocket Raccoon does not fit in the world of Star Fox so that meant that the whole world had to be designed around Rocket Raccoon, and they sitll had to give the characters human arms and give Falco finger-feathers like a cartoon so they could use the ship controls, bunch of compromises had to be made until you end up with a hot mess that doesn't make anyone happy.
>>739258690They still do, it's just a different artstyle.
>>739259043Design by committee is the movie design. They tried something weird here.
>>739259043Quit inventing scenarios in your head to get mad at.The safe route would be porting Starfox Zero.
>>739228986No, and it shouldn't be. Star Fox 64 was literally my favorite game ever as a kid for many years (eventually usurped by Rogue Squadron) but it's ridiculously short and shouldn't be priced the same as games that offer hundreds of hours of things to do. The only reason I played Star Fox so much back then was because I didn't have other better options. It was an awesome game to me when was a child but nowadays I don't think it would be seen as an awesome game by kids who have played anything more modern and sandbox-y. Adding new graphics to it doesn't change that.
>>739254452well I think they should try to keep their essence and just try to expand on that.just more star fox in the star fox game.
>>739254895Based.
Another issue with charging even close to full price for a rail shooter is the ease of development now. You could using stock assets and simple off-the-shelf tools almost make a new stage every day if you have even a small team.
>>739258690With the remake most likely being worked on by a western studio, I'm fairly convinced it's a case of westerners thinking they know better and that they can fix the mistakes of japanese devs, you can already see this with katt and the "a pink cat isn't le realistic" approach, which falls in line with the recent trend of there being "right" and "wrong" ways to design anthros when the japanese don't have such hangups. An anon did an interesting writeup on the matter regarding the old and new design of the contra wolf like a month or so ago.
>>739259219I would have rather had an upgraded version of Star Fox Zero with better control options than a straight remake of 64. Although the chicken walker will always be gay and the gyrowing will always be boring artificial length.
>>739259043What's funny is that Rocket has less retarded proportions so they even failed at that
>>739259404It's not really "western" by itself. If there was even a single furry on the team they never would have allowed those designs if they had any say.
>>739259476Exactly, he's literally just a raccoon standing upright. With Fox they tried doing that but they had to give him human arms so he could hold his ship's controls, which means concpeptually what they wanted to do did not work for Star Fox, but they used a sledge hammer to make that square peg fit in the circle hole.
>>739259510That's why I'm leaning towards forever entertainment being the dev, probably made up of 40 year old secondaries
>>739259405Nah, I'd rather Zero stay dead and buried.
>>739259510Surprise surprise, people who obsess over anthro animal designs actually know a thing or two about what does and doesn't work for an anthro character.
>>739228986>NOOOO I CAN'T FAP TO THIS MALE ANIMAL ANYMORE
>>739259717Like I said in a previous thread: if you have a leaky pipe, you call a plumber.>>739259606Yeah. Katt doesn't look like "kinda beat-up anthro chick," but "we have to make her ugly because taking away Rivet's hips and tits didn't work."
>>739254895the game is actually an improvement on everything, except the weird animal design choice.
>>739259404This looks more kemono adjacent>Short snouts>Animal feet>Disney eyesBut it's easier to say FILTHY WESTERNERS touched it than think a Japanese guy has different taste than you.
>>739259694I used to think the same but after seeing the alternative... had zero succeeded nintendo would have been forced to stick with those designs at least.
>>739259809This is such a weird strawman people pull out. I was a kid when I played 64 and thought it looked awesome. I even liked how zeros models looked as an adult. I do not feel that way about the new designs.
>>739259871>Tumblr sparkle dog mouthYou have no right to talk about art.
>>739254801>>739254772didn't know we had such based gentlemen on this board
>>739259909Yeah, because nips would reference a nintendo power issue by its serial number
>>739228986not when it looks like that
>>739259929Zero's designs are dogshit. They're just Command again with a fur/feather shader applied and a few cues from Brawl Fox. I prefer this goofy shit.
>>739254801>>739254772
>>739259967My first executive order as president is decriminalization of murdering furries
>>739259871I think farewell beloved falco katt was the perfect balance for her character, she wasn't a full on barbie girl like in 64 or zero but she wasn't a beaten up crack whore like in the new one
that's why they're padding it with cutscenes, and fleshing it out with online multiplayer.Real ones can skip the cutscenes on replays.
>>739259967Those are dudes, aren't they?
>>739259950Strawman, he says, with his post surrounded by furry faggots posting their fetish degeneracy and circlejerking about how furries would’ve done a better job.
>>739260003Yeah, and Rare wouldn't reference ROB64's Japanese name because they're brits.
>>739260165>ROB64's Japanese nameHe had a different name in Japanese?
>>739260147Why even post on this website if thats your attitude? Trolling I guess?
>>739260117The shorter one is a woman I think. Obviously the suit has some padding, but the curve of the torso is very feminine and shoulders compared to the torso. Not to mention the height. If that's a dude he's probably really skinny to allow for the padding.Taller one is probably 80% dude. Shorter one about 70% chance of being female.
>>739228986Unfortunately yes, the modern gaming audience doesn't understand arcade games at all. Also even people who didn't play it will shit on it just because its made by Nintendo, see the replies to this thread for proof.
>"Um, I actually sorta like how the female character has the look that I've spent the last decade mocking in other designs. Now Nintendo are making ugly women, I love it!"
I would have much preferred a more 'stylized' look like andrew and leon got, but for the whole cast. Andrew doesn't look anything like a real life primate, he looks like andrew in a more realistic style. No clue why they couldn't do the same for everyone else.
>>739228986no, it obviously can'tif you reach credits in 2 hours the game needs like 5+ different routes bare minimum
>>739260420This faggot wants to fuck cats.
>>739228986>Can a short arcade rail shooter be successful in 2026?Yes because it's just a shoot-em-up from a different angle. >that sells at $50-60It would need to have elements outside of the rail shooter segments and bring more to the table than the Star Fox remake did.
>>739253726Well the rumblepack and playing multiplayer with your perfectly sized group of exactly three other friends. That was great. I miss basically every N64 game having some kind of multiplayer, no matter how tacked on.
>>739260420This but unironically. Katt's design is the first ugly woman in vidya that actually works.
>>739229327>I wish the standard could be $40.funny thats how much the 3ds version was and even back them people were saying it was too much for what starfox is
New artstyle makes me want to pop open some cold ones with James McCloud while talk about how the local system is being ruined since those damn apes started moving in.
>>739260420Bold of you to assume most star fox fans aren't woke faggots, comes with the territory of them being furfags, /v/ posters are outliers.
>>739260405It's not that people "don't understand arcade games" is that the way people approach games means that charging full price, unless you're targeting a niche.>Streets of Rage 4 initially launched digitally on April 30, 2020, for a standard release price of £19.99 in the UK and $24.99 USDThe issue as well is that the "arcade-like" audience has probably already played all the well known arcade style games, and probably a lot of the well known retro games in general.
Do you think it hurts people to pretend everything a corporation, which they've sword fealty to, does is amazing, or are they so captured they genuinely believe it?
>>739260673Will james be cheering in the background as he roasts his bbq while fox takes out star wolf singlehandedly? Or will they just turn him again into a vision fox sees as he escapes venom
>>739260649Reminder that 64 3D sold a quarter of the original despite the 3DS having over twice the install base of the N64
>Star Fox>get cool spaceship>can't fly it around because railshooter>Ace Combat>get cool plane>can fly it around because it's not a rail shooter>Elite>get cool spaceship>can fly it around because it's not a rail shootersorry foxfags but your game is gonna flop again. it doesn't even have new Krystal to save it with the gooner market.
>>739260548If anything, I wish they would just stick to the rail shooter segments, they're the best parts of the games anyways. Just add more of them.
>>739260405I only hope that if it bombs nintendo assumes it's because of the designs rather than the formula
>>739260854People don't understand that the reason the game sold so well was because of its novelty, not because of its quality.
>>739260978Also the lack of competition
>>739260968Once you step outside of the 4chan bubble, the designs are what is catching the interest of most of the internet.
>>739260927Flying around looking at literally nothing isn’t appealing to me.
>>739260978you forgot that the n64 had very few games, even 1st party ones. compare with ps1
>>739260927>what is all-range mode
I replayed Assault after the announcement.I memory holed how many, and how bad the non-arwing stages are. Goddamn. The arwing stages are great, shame there's like fucking 4 of them.I also apparently memory holed how fucking annoying Krystal in particular is. Fuck Slippy, Krystal is twice as bad as Slippy in 64 was
>>739261148Now you approach wisdom.The entire series is mid. Off-model furry gooner waifu is all it ever had.
>>739260927Krystal is entirely secondary bait. The two opinions of Krystal are hot (doesn't play Star Fox) and annoying as fuck (plays Star Fox)
>>739261148assault is for multuplayer
>>739260854SF64 was sold when high testosterone sci-fi human vs. alien spaceship battles were at a high point in pop culture.
>>739261219I think is Krystal is hot but I only play Star Fox (SNES), Star Fox 2 (SNES) and Star Fox 64 (N64)
>>739236376Some of these are plausible, while some are bait to get attention. The Fara bit being the biggest example of that.
>>739261286So all they need to do is add Human Men to Star Fox? Make a Human Male the protagonist and give him a cool squad of anthro sidekicks?
I get the feeling if this flops thats probably it for star fox. Nintendo doesn't seem interested in actually trying to advance or update the formula in any way. Just brute forcing the same tactic from 30 years ago.It's very abnormal tactic for them, which makes me think there's basically 0 enthusiasm for the franchise internally.
>>739261048Oh, they're catching interest alright>>739244790
>>739261470At least there's an adventures game in the pipeline, which might be the actual last chance
>>739260420it's a cat, bro.I never wanted to fuck it.
>>739261624Oh, there is? Didn't know about that. I do think if this does bad enough they'd probably just quietly cancel it. Nintendo is the type of company to do that if sales turn south on something.Would be very funny if the furry franchise became the 'proper' zelda series now that botw/totk tossed out everything I liked about the original franchise.
>>739260784>say something Nintendo is doing is fine (not even great, just fine)>OH, SO YOU ALWAYS DEFEND NINTENDO?No. I hate that they haven't made an F-Zero game in 20 years, I hate that they overcharge for everything, I didn't really like Mario Odyessey that much, and I never played Tears of the Kingdom because cars don't appeal to me as a concept.
>>739260927>can't fly it aroundWhat the fuck are you saying?
>>739261751I mean, it's not confirmed but the same leak that mentioned it got other stuff right so it's fairly likely
It boggles my mind that people want a Star Fox game to be anything other than an on-rails arcade shooter, with the occasional All-Range mode.I don't care for platforming. I don't want any stupid gimmicks like Zero. If Krystal's going to feature in it, then her furry ass better be in an Arwing, or in a dialog box quipping about one.The worse thing about this, is that Nintendo is rehashing Star Fox 64's Lylat War again. Instead trying to advance the plot beyond Andross' wild ride, and giving us new stages, with branching paths, with their own (new) bosses, and new plots for the cast to banter about.
>>739261563>legacy media making articles about random tweets
>>739261219>>739261356I played assault. and since she was hot while not being a liability or annoying, I say she's a plus.
>>739261470Nintendo has made two star fox games, the first and 64. Sf2 technically counts I suppose so if you want to get really pedantic there are three star fox games. Since then there have been retarded gimmick infested shitposts and random games forced into star fox for no reason. Oh, and of course copy/pasting 64 again. And again.Zero could have been fine if they did two things, didn't get platinum to shit out a low effort game and didn't force the wii u slop gimmicks into it. Command could have been fine if they didn't get a malding tranny to write it and didn't force the touch screen gimmick. Adventures would still be a shit game but it would have been it's own shit with the 5IQ rarefags sucking it off endlessly in their own containment community.The only reason this SF64:the remaster:the remake exists is to shill the switch 2 retarded camerachat gimmickWhen the switch 3 comers out with a prostate milker add on yo ucan bet SF64:the remaster:the remake:the reimagining will out to shill the prostate features of the consoleNintendo does not want to make a star fox game they want to use it to sell retarded features to you
>>739261791Don't give him attention. Its obviously some tranny making passive aggressive comments because he has never been told no in his entire life and is now seething that he has gone online and people have different opinions on different things.
>>739261905it's the "I love this character from Smash Bros, but don't play their games" crowd
>>739261949>"Command could have been fine if they didn't get a malding tranny to write it"qrd?
>>739261905Nintendo games have had ass writing for years. At this point I'm fine with a Lylat Wars rehash since anything new would be lame.
>>739228986It's funny that this design really stopped all the people complaining and making threads about the Donkey Kong redesign
>>739262010Worked for Kid Icarus and Fire Emblem
>>739262051Command cannot be broken down into a 'qrd'
>>739261370No, they should have kept the more humanoid bodies of previous titles and leaned into the high test aspect, which is impossible in this era of boys being raised as panzies.
>>739262129I mean the malding tranny part, heard a while ago that nintendo blacklisted him for browsing furry erotica sites
>>739262117Look at Fire Emblem today and tell me it worked out for them
>>739262176Sales wise it did
>>739261905The problem is rail shooters are a dead and buried genre at this point. There's a reason the only new ones are $20 indie clones of sf1/64.
>>739261370Yes, Make a game starring a human male with Krystal as the love interest and you will get 15m sales minimum.
>>739262129Of course it can. Miyamoto was obsessed with soap operas during the making of Command, and wanted the story to be melodramatic like one. Nintendo also hated Krystal and wanted her out of the series, so they turned her into a mean bitch.
>>739251616fuck off Wolf
>>739262271>MiyamotoFailed 5 words in
>>7392621177 Fire Emblem games released between Melee and Awakening
>>739228986>Can a short arcade rail shooter that sells at $50-$60 be successful in 2026?Yes.
>>739262109Well the donkey kong design threads stopped when the game came out and it was good.If sf64 pt 3 flops then you will never hear the end of it, similar to command.
>>739228986Tendies will buy it anyway, it doesnt matter
>>739262225>Sales wise it didi dont think it did if anything I feel like smash hurt fe's perception. fe7 released in amaerica because of advance wars not smash. path of radiance and radiant dawn sold like shit, I dunno about shadow dragon but it coudnt have been good if they decided to not even bring over new mystery of the emblem. Awakening sold well before smash 4 came out and 3h also sold well before byleth was in ultimate
>>739262321He looks much better than McChud.
>>739260576>>739260530How much dick have you sucked this week?
>>739255410F-Zero for the SNES is the only REALLY good one anywayThey were smart to just make F-Zero 99 instead of forcing out some flop.Same with Star Fox really, the only particularly good game they have made since 64 is the remake for 3DS.
>>739262621>>739238668Which way, Lylat women?
>>739260692Finding an actual unironic sex negative furry is like looking for a needle in a haystack.
>>739262748>F-Zero for the SNES is the only REALLY good one anyway
>>739262701Katt presumably doesn't have a cock so that's an odd question to ask.
Ok, here's what I'm wondering. Why could they make a 10+ hour long rail shooter with Kid Icarus, but not Star Fox? Maybe they should have put Sakurai in charge of Star Fox.
>>739228986The only people calling railshooters outdated are people younger than 30 who've never played one for more than an hour.
>>739261219Yeah you're full of shit. I've played all the Star Fox games since the 90s and Krystal was a genuinely helpful and kind hearted character who brought some emotional stability to the team in Assault. Command kind of fucked up everyone's characters but nobody really cares about what happened in that game or takes it particularly seriously.
>>739262913KI:U WAS a Star Fox game until Miyamoto said no.
>>739262930>never played one for more than an hour.Well duh because you already finished it after 45 minutes.
>>739260223Yeah, he's NUS.That's why it says that on his chest from Adventures onward.
>>739260405>Unfortunately yes, the modern gaming audience doesn't understand arcade games at all.
>>739262748>F-Zero for the SNES is the only REALLY good one anywayHOLY BOOMER
I find it funny how people just repost the same screenshots of either in-engine cutscenes with unflattering lighting or AI-upscaled screenshots.Just seems like cherry picking IMO.
>>739263035You're supposed to replay it by going different routes to improve your score.
>>739263043That's a JET SIMULATOR you stupid cretin.
>>739262701>immediately thinks about sucking cockNot beating the furfag allegations.
>>739263043That was a movie game with some side arcade game moments
>>739262913Because Sakurai wanted to shit all over Kid Icarus instead of shitting all over Star Fox.
>>739263043>arcade game>posts sim???
>>739263043this board gets more retarded each passing year
>>739263043>Howlongtobeat: Main story - 12 hours
>>739228986Seeing the credits doesn't mean beating the game. By that logic you beat Tetris after 5-10 minutes.
>>739263261>of shitting all over Star Fox.sakurai already did that by making uprising a better game than the entirety of the starfox franchise lool
>>739263372yes it does
>>739263372is tetris 70$?
>>739263332It's just one schizo who has to inject simshit into every Star Fox thread
>Star Fox 64 already on NSO, anyone can play>Star Fox 64 3D if the graphics aren't your thingSo what exactly is even the point of this game again? Multiplayer? Even if just 3 stages one mode each, I doubt that will be enough to justify 50$extra.
>>739263538Furry vtubing in 4 person group chats
>>739262560yeah nintendo fans actually having games to buy really makes you mad huh
>>739263043that game is shit tho
>>739263043Kinda surprised that Ace Combat sells as well as it does.
>>739228986It will have some le twist like Donkey Kong with kid Pauline. Like a custom character you can use for single player and free-for-all multiplayer, create your own furry. Select from a few backgrounds that will create the foundation for how the other star fox members treat you: Cornerian hotshot pilot, sole survivor of a deep space mission, Andross defector, Macbeth mechanic who built his own ship and blasted his way out. Shit like that.
See you all later after the game comes out and everyone starts to love the art style
>>739263792I don't think it's real, Bamco are known for inflating numbers to boost sales. You can ask any gaming circle, people have either never heard of it or never played it. I didn't hear of it until the recent Star Fox threads. It looks like jank shit.
>>739263876>comparing the proportions on a character literally called TOON to one going for realismAnd of course people will defend it. It's Nintendo.I've seen people defending the VirtualBoy.
>>739262830Plenty of chud furries like that
>roguelikes are one of the most popular types of games out there>but no one wants a replayable arcade experience with numerous routes and multiple endingsI will never understand this. Why do people love doing runs in roguelikes but hate the idea of an arcade-style game that's ALSO about doing runs and trying new things each time?
>>739262262Dead and buried by publishers who only want to chase modern trends for fortnite bux. But I'm not wholly convinced that there isn't a market for it and other 'gamey' games, in a time where there's a conspicuous dearth in entertainment. Every non-indie company is focused on making the same hundred million dollar+ ubisoft open world/battle royale season pass flop. They'd have to reign in the budget, still.Being a Star Fox fan is suffering at the end of the day.Either doomed to waiting entire generations for a new entry that'll be ruined by said console gimmicks and a shitty story. Or see yet another remake (or a 'reimagining') of the one breakout game the "series" had.
>>739264062Because it's not good unless I'm gambling all the time.
>>739264062How shit so every single play of this game is going to be totally different and unique, which is the entire point of the roguelike loop?
>>739228986anything can sell when your fans are brainless brand worshiping retards who eat shit.
>>739264208It's not infinitely different, but there are a lot of variables in what routes you take.
>>739263538I think it's becoming obvious that Nintendo's business plan for the franchise is to just remake Star Fox 64, every time there's a new generation who hasn't played any of the prior entries.Todd Howard will be on the consulting line soon.
>>739264208Yeah, I need to have everything be RNG-dependent. Why design shit when you can make the game assets and have the game make itself? Who cares if your enjoyment is held hostage by your luck?
>>739261905people like all about star fox (characters, world, setting, going on missions)minus the gameplay.what's the point of a shoot'em up today? they're minigame-tier at bestat least metroid has a defined formula that works (enter deserted planet/station/whatever, examine areas or sectors, discover alternate passageways between separate sectors as you progress, beat bosses and acquire upgrades to unlock more rooms, collect upgrades, beat the game)meanwhile star fox as in its current form (arcadey on-rails shooter) looks 99% better suited to be F2P live-service shovelware:>expend 1 life/fuel cell/whatever to enter a planet and do a mission>complete level and earn medal for gacha pulls>possible prizes include new ships, wingmates, great fox upgrades, clothes and costumes, etc.seriously, star fox doesn't look like a retail video game in current year
>>739264974>what's the point of a shoot'em up today?They are fun. What's the point of any genre?
>>739265032I already told you. it's better suited to be>$1 per fuel cell (or wait 1 hour)>enter a planet and complete level>defeat the boss and earn a medal and you get new clothes for your pilot or whateverits gameplay gacha mobileshit-tier
>>739228986some uncanny valley tier graphics. Reminds me of when they first unveiled sonic the hedgehog movie and everyone collectively vomited in their mouths and they changed the cgi
>>739265129Says who? You can shove microtransactions into anything that doesn't mean one genre is bad and shouldn't get made anymore. You can just say you hate them. Don't make yourself look retarded with stupid logic.
>>739263965>reeee a real foxes legs are legs are 15 feet long reeeeeGo outside
>>739264974This is something that has been a complaint for a while. It's like the Panzer Dragoon games, which have far more polish and effort put into them than perhaps any other rail shooters in existence, with amazing locations and all of that stuff... But you're flying through it so fast you never get to appreciate it.So there's no real reason to put too much effort into things like location, enemies, etc. especially when you can make a course/stage in a short time using modern tools.There's only so much production value it's worth putting into a shooting gallery.
>>739262271John Nintendo should shut his ass up, I don't know why he hasn't been fired.
>>739264062rougeturds are beloved for the dopamine of pick 3 not for the gameplay or replayability. Normoids want to go through tedious bullshit to pick a +3% cum spray with a yellow outline while the other two options are white
>>739265179yes we heard you say the same on twitter, if anything he looks like fantastic mr fox
>>739246154We can just acknowledge nobody ever gave a fuck about Katt.
>>739264062Most people don't actually like Roguelikes. Look at how poorly Shiren sells.
>>739262269It's called HL2
>>739263082I mean the game isn't out yet, so the only thing we have it what they showed us. Also they really kill james off like a bitch in this, not a fan.
>>739264441Todd at least reskins his skyrim clones with new IPs and stories. Like fallout 4 and starfield.
Ladies who poop vs Bitches that Shit
>>739228986A short arcade rail shooter should not have anywhere near the same development costs as a normal 15-20 hour game, so why does it have to be the same price? Is it illegal for big publishers to release $30 games or something?
>>739228986They added movie cutscenes for modern gamers who only watch Sony movie gamesThat will unironically be what every reviewer praises
>>739266801Because fuck you you're gonna buy it anyway.
>>739266801It devalues the brand
>>739252986>adjust for a payment system that is literally used to distinguish between the upper and lower classes.There are literally companies removing salaried positions so they can reduce hours below 30 and remove benefits, inflation is the better metric.
>>739264062>roguelite garbagenoroguelikes, actual roguelikes not you being retarded, are fairly niche desu
What if these two were snuck into the new game?Odds are probably very low but Nintendo's hid major details before. Pauline wasn't shown in Bananza until 2 months after the game's reveal
>>739267131Garbage and trash are the same thing at the end of the day. It doesn't really matter.
>>739267182They didBill and Katt have been in the game for 30 years
>>739266586thought I was the only one, that cutscene is such a nothingburger, the most basic ass way they could have gone about showing pigma betraying the team, they might aswell not have bothered
>>739266845You know what devalues the brand?Having only one game.
>>739267182After seeing what Lilith the sensitivity consultant from Sweetbaby Inc. did to Katt, I don't want more female characters in this version of Star Fox.
>>739262271Was Miyamoto remotely instrumental in Command?I'm pretty sure they handed it back to Cuthbert, and it turned out he was an enormous latent furry or something.
slippy's hat needs to be red, it's my autistic hang up with the new look. he's too blue all around
>>739267281It also means if they ever did a prequel game staring james, they don't get to hold the reveal of his death as some big moment. It'd be like showing how big boss lost his eye in the intro of msg1, instead of leaving it as a tease point for almost all of mgs3.
>>739262946>Krystal was a genuinely helpful and kind hearted character who brought some emotional stability to the team in Assault.But that's boring.
>>739267428>Sweetbaby Inc.Quit making shit up.
>>739264974>>739265250>games aren't real games unless I can le walk around an open world and have a chill timeYou people are unbelievable. This is exactly why Ubisoft sucks now. they make one game.
>>739267884That's not what I was saying.My point was that there's a diminishing return to the amount of work to be put into a rail shooter.
>>739267651Make it GameCube indigo.
>>739267736Name one thing Sweet Baby Inc. would have done to Katt that this version of Star Fox hasn't done. Oh wait you can't.
>>739268148If it's fun, does it matter?
>>739267131Roguelites, then, you turd. You knew what I was talking about.
>>739268502Make her a black trans women of indigenous descent
>>739267585At some point before shipment, Nintendo’s leadership signed off on it.
>>739268532Yes, but the more work you put in the higher the retail price.
>>739268502Your criticism hinges on the idea that they have "unsexed" the character, when the original character (apart from being a cat), was literally a disembodied bobble head.You're trying so hard to be mad about this, and it's just not landing.
>>739267651I'm sorry anon, red hats are problematic in current year
>>739267697I don't think I'd trust modern nintendo with a james prequel if they think this reboot is acceptable, regardless, different iterations of batman and spiderman had uncle ben's and the waynes' deaths portrayed differently
>>739267651gotta catch 'em all
>>739268661Katt appeared in official material outside of the game, and aside from her other nonsequiter redesign in Star Fox Command (where she was a oriental stereotype and wore her bra on the outside of her clothes), she's had consistent characterization in all of her appearances until now. In Star Fox 26 they got rid of all her flirting and made her ugly on purpose.
>>739268810Just imagine being sexually attracted to that...Looks like Miss Piggy.
>>739268502Would be funny if Anita, Zoe or Sam Maggs were in the credits in this one and seeing tendies try to spin it as a good thing.
>>739268867The strawmanning projection never ends with you tourist antis.
>>739268787I suppose if they did ANOTHER reboot they can change james death again. Assuming this one doesn't just kill the series outright.
