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"Those IGN reviews are done by different people! They don't need to make sense or be consistent!"

You're reviewing for the biggest gaming website in the world. It's not your personal blog.

Learn how to review games properly.
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>>739232521
>American millennial nostalgia bait interactive cutscene made by an Australian
fucking grim
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>>739232521
Every review of a video game is a personal opinion. Consistency would only come into it if it’s a single person reviewed everything. That said what kind of human cattle can’t decide if they’d enjoy a game or not based on watching half an hour of gameplay?
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>>739232989
>half an hour of gameplay?
In Mixtape's case 50% of the content
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>>739232521
>Mixtape 10
>Yoshi 6
without the soundtrack bonus, what is Mixtape actually?
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I'm having a blast!
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>>739232989
They're obviously bribed to say this shit.
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>>739232521
This.

When you review a game as part of an outlet, you are taking on the mouthpiece for that outlet.
Notice how whenever games crow about all their awards, the tagline isn't:

"BEST GAME EVER! CURED MY CANCER AND SUCKED ME OFF!"
-- <REVIWER NAME>, <GAME GENRE> reviewer for <OUTLET>

It's always:

"BEST GAME EVER! CURED MY CANCER AND SUCKED ME OFF!"
-- <OUTLET>
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>>739233219
OP was bribed to make this thread
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>>739233115
Yeah I don’t need 30 mins to know I won’t enjoy a walking sim.
>>739233219
Are they in the room with us right now?
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>>739233269
Of course, why do you think this shit hole board is allowed to continue existing? They read your posts and act accordingly. How new are you
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>>739233237
Sorry, redditors cannot understand this.

>>739232989
You need to take your personal biases and preferences into account before making a final score. It's not rocket science.

It's not hard to look at a game objectively. If you can't do that - you shouldn't be reviewing games.
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>>739233532
>im aware of all my subconscious biases somehow
Sure you are.
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>>739233532
>It's not hard to look at a game objectively
Care to demonstrate how easy this is? Write a short but objective review for Super Mario Bros on NES.
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>>739233713
Foundational game that invented 2D platformers and resurrected the video game industry after the crash of the 80's, 10/10
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>>739233656
>t. Lefty
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>>739233765
>10/10
That's not objective.
>Invented 2d platformers
also that's not true.

What objective unit of measurement are you using to score the game?
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>>739233815
Not me btw.
And the fact you cant tell hes fucking with you is hilarious. THAT is objective :^)
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>>739233786
>t. delusional faggot
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>>739233881
I feel like you might be an IGN reviewer. You have no reason to get this salty.
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>>739233869
Concession accepted.
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>>739233985
I'm not writing a review for a game I've not played in a long time, retard. And especially not to appease some salty mf who is unable to identify his own biases and write an objective review.
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>>739234042
Then write an objective review of any game.
My point is; you won't, because you can't.
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>>739234157
I can, I've done it before. I'm just not putting in that sort of effort and time for some random on /v/.

Shocking, I know.

>My point is; you won't, because you can't.
Project.
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>>739234235
>He didn't do it
>Because he can't
Thanks for ceding the point. I accept your concession
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>>739234304
Go back to giving Mixtape 10/10, kid.
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>>739234339
Thanks for ceding the point.
You can stop crying now.
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>>739234409
Cute.
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>>739234494
>He's still crying
cute.
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>>739234539
Cute.
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>>739232989
>Every review of a video game is a personal opinion.
Retard. Reviews should be entirely objective, I don't give a fuck about your personal opinions, give me factual information.
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>>739234639
Oh, it's a bot.
Reply again.
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>>739234714
>Reviews should be entirely objective
Review a game, 100% objectively, in your next reply.
You won't, because you can't. No one can.
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Cute.
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>>739234764
You can't be 100% objective but you can damn well try. None of these modern reviewers are unable to distinguish what is subjectively good and what is objectively good.
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>>739234813
Reply again, robot.
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>>739234849
So you think they should be "entirely objective", even tho you admit it's literally impossible?
That's a weird double standard.
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So ignoring the dude who is being mindbroken by the word "Cute", we can all agree that if you're unable to actually fathom how to write an objective review of something - you're a brainlet, right?

>>739234913
I think you can get pretty close. You can very easily explain your points of what makes aspects / mechanics of a game good, and why there's parts of a game that are objectively bad. It's not difficult. The subjective opinion is good flavour, but shouldn't hold weight to a final scoring.
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>>739234969
>objectively bad
Such as?
Like I said, review a game, as close to objectively as you can, or admit you have no examples.
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>>739235025
Think about a game you like. Love, even. If you can't think of an objectively bad part of it then I can't help you.

For example, Metroid Prime 4 (for no reason whatsoever) is an awful game. People can like it - love it, even. But that game is objectively awful overall. The graphics are objectively good. But the world design is bloated, with the desert being an incredible timewaste. That's just objective fact.

If you can't pick, point out and separate objectively good/bad parts of a game - then no wonder you're not a game reviewer.
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>>739235156
>Uses the word "objectively" wrong, again and again and again.

What objective unit of measurement are you validating these "objectively good/bad" parts of the game with?
If you're answer is "i don't have one" then you are not answering anything objectively.

I hope this helps you understand why the task is impossible.
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>>739235239
If you cannot tell the difference then I cannot help you.
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>>739235263
If you can not demonstrate the difference, you lose.
Thanks for admitting you couldn't do it.
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>>739235320
As I said, I cannot help you.
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>>739234969
>You can very easily explain your points of what makes aspects / mechanics of a game good
Which would be an entirely subjective statement. The only thing you can really be objective about with a game is it's technical aspects (i.e is it free of bugs, is it decently optimized, etc) and even that stuff isn't always 100% objective because of speedrun fags and autists that like abusing some glitches or need the frame rate a certain way
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>>739235343
As I said, thanks for admitting you lost.
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>>739233532
Objectivity is impossible and would make for a bad review anyways. There are two types of people who are obsessed with the word 'objective': self-proclaimed smart teenagers and autists. Growing up means realizing that there's bias in practically everything and that a review with biases is more valuable exactly because it makes it easier to understand who it appeals to.

Do you know who write "objective" reviews? Brown teenagers, straight from their little jungle huts. You can find them on platforms like Steam and MAL. They love review formats where they judge content through some rigid system, going through categories like 'gameplay', 'graphics', and 'sound'. Then they neatly tally that up and divide. Reckon IGN should do that too?
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Another example for objective vs. subjective.

Metal Gear Solid 1 has two parts where you have to backtrack. This is not objectively bad, just subjectively bad. The backtracking takes no more than a few minutes each time, and gives you the opportunity to use your newly upgraded keycards to explore. Some people like that.

An objectively bad part of MGS1 are the endless staircase sections. They are riddled with enemies to the point where taking damage is a certainty, not giving the player any interesting choices or opportunities for skillful play. Stealth isn't even an option in these sections, either. It is merely designed as a "gotcha" moment by the developer. Same gotcha sentiment is applied to the trap doors, and is a hangover from Metal Gear 1 and 2.

Hope this helps, you fucking retard.
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>>739235373
I feel sorry for you.
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>>739235448
>An objectively bad part of MGS1 are the endless staircase sections
So which objective unit of measurement are we using to determine and make this objective value judgement?
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>>739235430
Sounds like you've been hanging around too many sonic and anime reviewers, anon.

>>739235504
It is explained in the next sentence. Hope this helps.
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>>739235486
>He's still crying.
Stop crying. You lost by your own admission. It's nobody's fault but your own.
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>>739235548
>Stop crying. You lost by your own admission. It's nobody's fault but your own.
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>>739235529
>It is explained in the next sentence
Literally doesn't answer my question.
So which objective unit of measurement are we using to determine and make this objective value judgement?
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>>739234714
There is no such thing. Never was, never will be. But again, that’s a lot of pushback against not being cattle and making your own purchasing decisions.
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>>739232521
When reviewing games or movies, it must be understood that two reviews and conclusions are not necessarily comparable.
A review for a Fire Emblem game getting 8/10 is not comparable to a platformer Super Mario game getting an 8/10. They should be compared to games in the same genre.
Super Mario game A getting an 8/10 and Super Mario game B -while both are traditional 2D platformers, such as NSMB Wii and Wonder- getting a 9/10 is comparable because you are reviewing two games of the same nature.

This should be achieved with a simple question:
>If I want to play a 2D platformer, which game would be better and why?
As such, Mixtape -as unlikely as it is- could technically be a 10/10 in its own genre while a Fire Emblem game with much better story than Mixtape could be a deserved 8/10 because you're comparing it to other games in the same strategy subgenre, not to other games getting a similar numerical score.

That said, I still don't think Mixtape deserves a 10/10 simply because games like Life is Strange outshines anything that game is trying to do.
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>>739235579
see
>>739235548
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>>739234849
>Those goalposts are on wheels!
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>NO! THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS OBJECTIVELY BAD DESIGN! WAAAH!! WAAAAH!!!!
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>>739235448
Anon, I... Well.. I mean, you.. You really don't understand the term 'objectively', do you? Wow.

But hey, let's pretend that a section disliked by a lot of people is ""objectively"" bad. You can share examples, but most games won't have that many cases that are clear cut. Your type of review would be a constant stream of "well, in my eyes, but mayhaps not in your eyes, this is not fun. But it could be! So I'm not subtracting points!" A constant stream of pseud enlightened rambling ending in a conclussion of "depending on whether you like this game it could be anywhere from a 5 to a 9."
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Why does the correct use of English words upset brown people so much?
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>>739232872
>American millennial nostalgia

As if. Only if you are a tone deaf rich kid in the suburbs. Kinda like all the paid reviewers.
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>>739235448
>An objectively bad part of MGS1 are the endless staircase sections
Okay, but what if I think they're a cool setpiece and important to the game design as a resource drain before the upcoming boss fight? It doesn't matter what example you come up with, you can do this with literally fucking anything
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>>739235702
Sounds like you don't understand it.
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>>739235743
Then I would call you retarded.

>What if I said I liked eating shit?

Doesn't make shit any less shit.
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>>739235747
Anon, I too was twenty once. I very well know the mistake you're making. You'll grow out of it, hopefully.
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>>739235780
So you're admitting your argument doesn't hold, thanks for acknowledging that you used the word "objectively" incorrectly.
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>>739232521
>MUH NO GAMEPLAY!
Remember when faggots mocked you as a kid because Final Fantasy was just 4 gays standing in a row doing nothing?

Remember when they said MIST wasnt a game?

Remember when they said Visual Novels was not a game?

Exactly, who cares, the shits not my type of game, so I dont care.
>REEE IGN GAVE THIS A GOOD SCORE HOW DARE THEY! REVIEW SCORES MEAN NOTHING!
also /v/
>OH MY GOD THEY GAVE MY FAVORITE GAME A 10 REVIEW SCORES ARE EVERYTHING!
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>>739235850
Go back to browsing MAL, huh kid.
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>>739235780
>What if I liked calling gold shit? Doesn't make gold have any less value
Thanks for proving the point retard
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>>739235864
Stay mad

>Remember when faggots mocked you as a kid because Final Fantasy was just 4 gays standing in a row doing nothing?

I mean, it is?
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>>739235890
Just realised Im replying to a bunch of retards (probably american)
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Guys... I like the part of my car that doesn't function properly. It's my subjective opinion. There's no such thing as an objectively bad designed car!
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>>739235156
this thread reads like a debate between LLMs trained on early usenet posts. midwits have been having this identical objectivity discussion for many decades, it's honestly kinda cozy
editors at a site like ign absolutely have to approve a perfect score. they knew it would be controversial. a reviewer can't just go rogue and hand out a 10/10, an editor would very delicately say "good piece but dial it down a bit..." if they didn't like it. perfect scores stick with a publication forever and they have to maintain their brand recognition (a famitsu 40 or ign 10 should mean something and they don't want to dillute it)
so basically ign reviews are terrible on purpose
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>>739235917
Stay gay, faggot.
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>>739236071
Mate, you like final fantasy - objectively bad btw
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>>739235156
If you can't figure out why you enjoy an ""objectively"" bad game, then you have no business discussing games and reviewing them. The game obviously does certain things right, because otherwise it wouldn't appeal to you. You're not eating shit for fun. You being incapable of identifying those strong aspects is a problem on your end.
>>739235875
This doesn't really work when you're the one making threads whining about IGN not employing autistic people like you.
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>>739236104
>He's making up "facts" to get mad at in his own head
Cute!
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>>739236217
I've explained it. You're the one who cannot understand it. Your problem.

>>739236217
What are you on about? Back to MAL.
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>>739235917
you didnt even respond to the correct person you fucking retard.
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>>739236229
holy shit that guy mindbroke you
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>>739236258
>He doesn't know what "objectively" means
Cute!
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>>739236258
Your explanations have been refuted numerous times.
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>>739236320
refuted =/= "I don't understand!!!!!! WAH!!!"
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>>739236305
>making up facts
>again
Cute! Guess I mindbroke you ;3
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All these /v/edditors in this thread not understanding what objectively bad game design is. Can't say I'm surprised.
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>>739236320
>He doesn't know what refuted or objective means
Cute!
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>>739235651
Is it fun to make up shit to be mad about? Nobody said that.
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the screenshots on the steam page tell me this is a "game" made by someone who wanted to make a movie or a tv show
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>dude posts one reply
>mindbroken guy proceeds to reply FOUR times

LMAO
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>>739236456
No, anon. The retards in this thread would have you believe there's no such thing as an objectively bad game.
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>>739232521
Oh god the ethics of games jurnalll.... ahahah you faggots actually care about game reviews still
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>>739236512
i havent even read the thrad i just wanted to say that
in fact i'm watching a playthrough right now and yeah this is 100 % a movie
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>>739236471
You sound mind broken.
Reply again
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>>739236512
correct, there isn't, you thinking its bad is subjective, similar to any type of art from games to comedy.

It's your subjective opinion.

Hey you sissies wanted games to be art to justify sitting at home all day playing them, just like those sissies who said movies are art wanted justification to sit around watching them.

So there you go, shit sucks, maybe next time dont try to elevate your hobby above what it is, a electronic childrens toy that is basically jingle keys.
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Holy samefag. OP really got his little mind broken.
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It's literally impossible to review games objectively, people arent robots. Video games have different genres because not everyone likes the same type of games, the fact that /v/ likes to argue about video games should be proof and evidence that objectivity between video games is impossible because every person has different tastes and criteria of what makes a game their favourite.

Mixtape got high scores because it resonates with white millennials who are the same demographic that reviewed the game, that's literally it.
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>>739236740
Me if I was retarded
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>>739236835
which you are, anybody on /v/ crying about games is retarded and or autistic, especially in this thread.

That includes me.
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>>739236831
>Mixtape got high scores because it resonates with white millennials who are the same demographic that reviewed the game, that's literally it.

So you're saying it was reviewed subjectively, rather than objectively? Interesting.
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>>739236873
Nah. Just you.
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>>739236882
stop thinking everybody in this thread is the same person responding to you.
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>>739236947
?????????
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>>739236923
whatever helps you function, its 8am in the morning my man, you are crying about shit on the internet, we are in the same retarded little boat.
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>He doesnt know what "objectively" means
Why are there so many ESL's lately?
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>>739236923
To borrow your definition of objective: no person would consider your little sperg tantrum in this thread to be normal or healthy, because it isn't. Therefore you are objectively autistic and objectively retarded.
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ALERT ALERT: AMERICANS HAVE ENTERED THE THREAD.
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>>739232872
>millennial
It's not though. It's GenX. Most Millennials were still pre-teen or early teen in the 90s. 00s is Millennial nostalgia.

It's what a (probably older Zoomer) THINKS that 90's nostalgia is like.
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>>739237023
Stay mad.
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>>739237083
We're laughing at you, anon.
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>>739237081
>muh not millennials.
its ok to admit our generation is really fucking lame with this shit, your 40 now.
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>>739237131
Omg... you're just like the JOKER baybee!! XD
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>>739237159
Yeah, that's an objectively upset reply..
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>>739237206
you mean subjective.
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>>739232872
>made by a JEW
fixed
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>>739237206
objectively doesnt exist, anon.
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>>739237140
If you were 40 now you'd be 9 years old in 1995.
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>>739232521
>she says this as if she’d give the game anything less than a zero
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Retards are really crying about Lego Batman and Yoshi getting lesser scores lmao
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>>739237283
correct, and I didn't grow up in a white suburban well to do life either. I had a grown ass mans job on a farm at 6 and was making car payments at 16 while skipping school to go to work.

So I wouldn't know what the fuck being a teenager or child was like.
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>>739237449
Yet you shitpost like a manchild neet
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>>739237376
Don't care about those games but really says a lot. Proves OP's point.
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>>739237589
Correct again, because you me and everybody else in this thread are arguing at 8am like retards, except I retired after 20 years of work and get to screw around.

What's your excuse for being retarded?
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What is real? How can reviews exist when video games dont exist in ultimate reality according to the Buddha?
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>>739237642
It's 1pm.
I'm on lunch break.
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>>739237810
better tell me what the fuck you are eating then mister Brit cause It may be pretty good.
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>>739237875
Im not that guy but I fried some salmon, eggs and pesto and then had them in a wholemeal wrap with mayo and pepper.
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>>739237875
>Brit
I'm not British.
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>>739237951
you also didnt answer my question.
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>every industry journalist is a soi millennial
>WTF how did the soi millennial nostalgia slop game get 10/10
Are people just dumb? The game was made in a lab to appeal to a specific target audience. It wasn't made for you or me or anyone here so obviously we dont like it, so dont buy it. I dont get the outrage besides the fact that people want to be mad. >>739232521
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>>739237982
I know.
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>>739232989
TRVKE

>>739233532
>>739234714
Brainlets
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I cringe whenever I remember my "Objective reviewer" phase as a teen. Saddened that some anons ITT never grew out of that. Or maybe they're underage, which would be a lot more wholesome.
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>>739233765
>Foundational game that invented 2D platformers and resurrected the video game industry after the crash of the 80's, 10/10
completely, objectively 100% true
I played platformers before mario and they were shit
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>>739238534
>objectively
You don't know what the word "objectively" means, Rajeesh.
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>>739238598
I know that you're objectively a faggot and can mathematically prove it by contrapositive
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>>739238810
Go ahead. Do it.
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>>739238284
Sorry that this upsets you.

>>739238468
I feel sorry that you were never unable to understand the difference.
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>>739238930
Then explain the difference, or admit you're too mindbroken to do it.
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>>739238845
For any group of heterosexual males N, the percentage of N currently gargling gaming media penis must be zero
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>>739232521
>Hobby and Access Press has or should have the same standards as investigative journalism!
You're a fucking retard, OP.
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>>739239050
Proves nothing objectively.
Thanks for confirming you don't understand what the word means.
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>>739239096
sorry anon I can't hear you properly through the cock in your gob
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90s white kids really had the worst taste in music ever
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>>739232521
>Jewish website gives Jewish publisher 10/10 reviews for their dogshit movie "game".
Wow, who could have seen this coming? Just a coincidence I'm sure.
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>>739234714
Entertainment cannot be reviewed objectively, that's not a thing.
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>>739239173
Fuck off, you retarded gay nigger.
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>>739239004
mans just repeated the other guys words fifty times now and then claims its the other person who is "mindbroken"
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>>739241864
>No answer
Concession accepted.
You lose.
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But that would imply that art is objective. One person can hate a game while another loves it. Scores can vary wildly.
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>>739232521
>here's your 10/10 game bro
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>>739235651
But if you voted for Drumf then you're FACTUALLY A NAZI!!!!
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Art and entertainment can be viewed objectively. Viewing anything 100% objectively is rare and generally does not happen in art and entertainment. However also saying that it is 100% subjective is just as wrong and diminishes the objective flaws and issues of what needs to be addressed. Unsurprisingly this argument usually pops up when said art or media has alternative motives or pushing propaganda in ways the creators and financers know is harmful or is considered wrong by the genral population.
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>>739243165
>Art and entertainment can be viewed objectively
Can you demonstrate some examples? Thanks.
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>>739232521
>complaining about journalists shilling for a game because it’s about gay people
The fuck is this 2016?
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>>739234714
>Reviews should be entirely objective
How the fuck do you make a question like “is the game fun” objective?
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>/v/ is not a hivemind
>but IGN is
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>>739245492
This. You can't even say if it's "good" or not, that's subjective too.
Is it well-made? That's subjective, looks good to me!
Is the engine high quality? By which objective unit of measurement do we deduce "quality"?

It's almost an entirely useless word.
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>>739232521
Why does an obvious paid review even bother you at all?
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>>739245853
Think about it for even a second and youll get the answer.

Also we're not talking about that review specifically either. It's a broad thing.
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>>739234714
mixtape deserves a 10/10 and goty
>no bugs
>no mtx/gacha
>launched with no issues
>no additional patches
>no intrusive hints
>no yellow paint
>runs well
>cheaper than aaa titles
>good ost composed by real musicians
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>>739232521
I'm not one of those "10/10 means perfect and therefore isn't possible" people, but a 10/10 should be extremely rare and given only to games that can't reasonably be any better than they already are.
The severe and constant framerate issues of Mixtape alone should bring this score down at least one point. You cannot give this game 10/10 without outright ignoring its problems.
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>>739247067
Almost good bait.
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>>739247189
Erm... a lot of people in this thread said there's no such thing as OBJECTIVELY bad performance... the frame drops... its subjectively bad anon...
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>>739234157
The music is no name literal who artists that sold records in the dozens save for one of the worst tracks from the second most critically panned Devo album. The character's dialog is written like they're metropolitan adults in 2020 contrasting with the supposed 90s setting. The technology is all earily off, headphones are backwards, Cassettes are upside-down. The story is riddled with plot holes, and the titular mixtape is nondiegetic opening with an aside to the audience introducing the song with occasionally incorrect trivia.

The gameplay is so barebones that it plays itself for nearly all of it's runtime, and the animation budget was apparently slashed lower than 60s daytime television as the characters autorun on a scrolling background. It makes sense that it's written by gay Australians that have never lived near America, or a suburb.
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>>739248184
>worst
Not objective.
You failed that test very quickly.
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>>739248632
Worst is an objective claim. Things are better than other things. You don't believe that all quality is subjective or you would have listened to my latest album, 12 hours of nails on a chalkboard.
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>>739238118
>Want to be mad
Just look at how Massie lost. I am sure that anons here are on some level realizing that conservatives are losing their punk rock edge, which will make them objectively unsexy to both femoids and more importantly 20 year old twinks. Right now I'm not sure how someone like Sam Hyde is supposed to lay pipe when he's basically the same tier of cringe and conformist as a 70 year old boomer granddad now. Let alone any other anon who doesn't have his charisma and ugly bastard aura.
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>>739249350
What objective unit of measurement do you use to determine "quality"?
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>>739249664
Your refusal to listen to my 12 hours of nails on a chalkboard album, and it's sequal, 12 hours of fecal excretions. Logically if there was no difference in quality you'd be just as willing to hear it as anything else.
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>>739250070
That's not objective, that's subjective.
Thanks for confirming you don't know the difference.
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>noooo you can't criticize the reviews!
If a game is rated 10/10 then it should be a massively influential game and genuinely affect the wider spectrum of games. Shittape is neither
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>>739250128
Not him but you're retarded or baiting. Hope it's the latter (for your sake)
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>>739251227
What do you think is objective about "personal preference"?
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>>739251749
You are saying that nails on a chalkboard is objectively the same as a piece of composed music.

I'm sorry anon... you're retarded. (Objectively)
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>>739232521
Who cares about IGN's reviews anyway? It's not like they have any impact at all on sales. Some of the best reviewed games have been massive flops, while poorly reviewed games like stellar blade or crimson desert did well.
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>>739250128
It's not subjective, you haven't heard it yet. If all quality was purely subjective tastes you would have no way of knowing that my amazing album of repeated nails scratching a chalkboard is better, or worst than Pet Sounds. You would have needed to listen to both albums, and make your subjective assessment isolated only to you.

Unless you mean to say by "Subjective" that you mean "All known animals, especially humans that communicate vocally display a universal aversion to certain compositions, and sounds, but hypothetically other creatures could exist that could display differences." then it's a very broad definition of subjective.

If you seriously thought there were alien philistines out there that have some bizarre inversion of human activity let's just not worry about referring to them with language until we find evidence they exist. Let's just call objective things that refer to all knowns to prevent confusion with your little mind gremlins okay?
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>>739251931
No, I'm saying you haven't been able to explain the difference yet. Objectively.
Why can't you?

>>739252225
>"It's not subjective"
>describes subjectivity
okay
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>>739252331
If I tell you I'm five miles from London, is that a subjective statement, or a statement of an objective fact?
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>>739232521

It's objectively true that Mixtape is innovative and it's also objectively true that it lacks class competitors. Therefore Mixtape should receive a higher score than medieval fantasy game that does little that is new and has hundreds of class competitors.
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>>739252830
Where is mixtape innovative?
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>>739252917

Eliminating choice allows Mixtape to be more like a movie.
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>>739252830
I suppose you can say a fixed walk cycle on a rolling background is innovative to the medium of video games, but this was overdone, cheesy, and cheap in the 60s. As for generic coming of age teenage rebellion stories we've had literal hundreds of video games following that plot, we've even had several walking simulators following that plot.

It's not even unique in the specific genre of animated teenage coming of age video games with a police officer as an authority figure set in a rustbelt suburb with a musical framing device.
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>>739235430
What is 2 + 2?
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>>739249510
Massie lost to an actual Israel-payroll boomercon though, you're just lying on purpose here.
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>>739252331
Countless people have explained it to you and you're objectively too retarded to explain it.

It's like you can't form your own thoughts and understand things.
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>>739253449

Not a walking simulator, it's a series of mini games, there's more walking in CoD.

There were no walking simulators in the 60s.

The pictured game isn't like a movie. It might be like a novel. But that's the point. "Movie games" come off as choose your own adventure short stories rather than movies.
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>>739245626
IGN is though since it's a foe profit company that only lets certain people in to their group versus 4chan that is open to all.
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>>739253629
What is the definition of 'practically'?
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>>739254279
It's not a series of minigames either since they lack the game and replay component. It's a theme park ride of interactible moments
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>>739252476
You tell me. You're the one making the claim.

But be sure to explain why you think that nails on a chalkboard is objectively different as a piece of composed music first.


>>739254085
>He's too scared to do it
Concession accepted
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>>739234714
That's not how things work, at all. There are obviously some objective qualities like whether the game function or not, but you can't objectively review a video game, both as an entertainment product and as an art form, because what is good is different from person to person. Reviews aren't supposed to objectively tell you what is good or what isn't, you're supposed to check a reviewer who most align with your taste to see if they enjoy the game, this is why IGN is useless, because they don't have a consistent reviewer across all games.
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>>739254279
Night in the Woods is also a series of minigames broken up by walking simulator segments. Mixtape is not innovative, it is is derivative by restricting the cast of people to walk around, and talk people to three people in three rooms, instead of Night in the Woods 23 rooms.

The games are very similar, it's just that Mixtape is extremely stripped down, has no fail states for it's various minigames, doesn't have original diegetic music for it's storytelling, and has plot that drops all pretense of being about anything but a by the numbers coming of age story.
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>>739232521
I just struggle to understand how a video game with no gameplay gets a perfect 10/10 score
are critics saying they prefer games they dont have to play?
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>90s inspired "indie" meme game with fake reviews and paid shills
Last one gave rise to Emperor Golden Cheeto. This game's butterfly effect will end again in another presidency. But who will be? can be anyone, remember that Trump was just a reality tv star by then.



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