>Seifer was one character Nomura created since he wanted to have a love triangle between Squall, Rinoa and Seifer. He's ended up being more like Squall's rival, though. FF7's Sephiroth was a rival with a strong impact, but he didn't want to repeat that same pattern. From that, he made Seifer more human since Sephiroth wasn't. When Nomura first thought of Seifer, he imagined him decent, proper, a cool guy and manly. Ultimately, Seifer ended up becoming someone that was broken.Did you appreciate the tragedy of Seifer on your first playthrough of FF8?
Tragedy?
>>739238671He was a chunni
>>739238885Yeah it wasn't that serious, the fuck? Was just some Disney bully-type who went "I wanna be a Witch's knight!" on some Don Quixote shit then got brainwashed for it. He gets better by the end. Not much of a story let alone a tragedy.
>>739239024It's kinda wild he got away with everything lmao
>>739239071>This just in: Local Piece of shit gets away with everything after years of being a menaceJust like real life...
>>739238671>wanted it to be a love triangle>the only vague mention of this is that rinoa says seifer was her ex-boyfriendWas this lost in translation or something? It hardly seemed like a love triangle. They should've had segments where Seifer and Rinoa had to accomplish something together if they wanted that to be the case.
>>739238671>FF7's Sephiroth was a rivalWRONG
>>739239347You can thank the Compilation for that shit.
>>739239347NuFF7 says otherwise
>>739238671Can't appreciate shit about the loser if he falls to pieces like a little girl in the last third of the game. He just becomes more and more pathetic and i'm still not even sympathetic or understanding as to why this jackass even has fans. He fails at pretty much everything he does in FFVIII.
>>739239345I always thought I remembered a convo where seifer said he got to her first implying sexually but I played it recently and it’s not there
>>739239542He still has his friends anon isn't that what matters the most?
his coat is cooler than ...whatever squall is wearing
>>739239614lol
>>739239614I would like Seifer's design better than Squall's if he didn't have a fucking 40-year old Italian mob boss haircut
>>739239614Squall and Seifer both have extremely cool coats
>>739239575>I always thought I remembered a convo where seifer said he got to her first implying sexually but I played it recently and it’s not thereIf I remember rightly, at Galbadia Garden Rinoa says something about Seifer being her first boyfriend.Seifer would've been a more interesting character if he had re-occurred as a playable character throughout the story. Instead he ends up being the mini-boss that shows up and jobs.
>>739239767>Instead he ends up being the mini-boss that shows up and jobs.I like how his one moment to shine in one-shotting Odin is immediately outdone by Gilgamesh Team Rocket'ing his ass or just Squall beating his brakes off
>>739238885This. He was genuinely a dumb fuck living out heroic delusions from watching Laguna's movies.He likely never leaves Squall alone because he reminds him so much of his father. Because he is his father's son.
Daily reminder that the only reason he and Squall use a gunblade is because they watched that shitty B-movie with Laguna as kids.
>>739239892>>739239924Which is quite funny, because Seifer holds his gunblade a lot closer to how Laguna does, given Laguna is Squall's dad, and Laguna even thinks to himself what an antiquated weapon, and how unfamiliar he is with one.Seifer's entire fighting style is based off of a boomer in a movie not knowing what he was doing.
>>739239892>GifKino, its the little deails where FF8 shines the most
>>739239606Just a bunch of tag along fuck ups also. Best part will always be Fujin calling Seifer out for being pathetic at the end of Lunatic Pandora putting him in his place for forcing them to rely on Squall of all people to get their friend back.
>>739239767>Seifer would've been a more interesting character if he had re-occurred as a playable character throughout the story.This with Fujin and Rajin they were all goofballs
The question is, if Seifer, Fujin, and Raijin were FF8's Team Rocket, who would Seifer be? Meowth?
>>739240324> who would Seifer be? Meowth?Yes.
>>739239892to be fair gunblades are 10 times cooler than any other weapon in the gamethe only other person with style is irvine
>>739240027Happens all the time. FFVII was very obviously inspired by Highlander 2 and Christopher Lambert was half blind and couldn't sword fight for shit, nearly seriously wounding both Sean Connery and Michael Ironside.Just shows you actors in films aren't as talented as you would generally expect.
>>739239071Yeah I thought for sure he would be killed or dealt with somehow in the ending cinematic instead he’s just hanging out on a fishing trip for whatever reason
>>739239606Still hard to believe these two were originally what the Turks were supposed to be but they got left over for FFVIII.
>>739240449>Happens all the time. FFVII was very obviously inspired by Highlander 2 and Christopher Lambert was half blind and couldn't sword fight for shitNot seen the film to comment. I guess the irony is that SeeD are meant to be elite mercs, and this silly twat copied a clueless actor.But yeah, I was disappointed with Seifer, I thought he was going to be playable a lot more based on Dollet.
>>739240569Elena ended up having a similar role as them in terms of being goofy
>>739240535What the hell was her problem?
>>739240535>>739240689Daddy issues
>>739240535Rinoa is actually based but no one remembers it
>>739240689>Isn't it romantic our parents almost fucked?The entire script was retarded.
god i want an ff8 remake so badso much soul
>>739240617>But yeah, I was disappointed with Seifer, I thought he was going to be playable a lot more based on Dollet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVRTHDYhHho
>>739240773its romanticyou are just stupid
>>739240535the preceding scene is so funny too, with Irvine posing on a black background and then casually strutting down the stairs with one hand on his hat, for all the shit it gets VIII had amazing scene direction for a PSX game
>>739240817I would love a remake treatment with 8, they expanded on Bigs, Wedge and Jessie and even added new characters stories, I would love that with 8>Garden Balamb>choose missions>Seifer, Fujin and Raijin filler>Zell's crush story>Selphie's town not being hiddenWho knows maybe after 7, I dont see ff9 remake being too big
>>739240958i think ff9 is perfect as it is, the graphics only need a small touch up, maybe make every fmv real time etc, backgrounds tooff8 is easily expandable
>>739240958I wouldn't be against more Laguna kino
>>739241082>i think ff9 is perfect as it is, the graphics only need a small touch up, maybe make every fmv real time etc, backgrounds tooff8 is easily expandableI love the world of FF9 a lot more than 8. I would love to be able to wander around a fully fleshed out Treno, Alexandria, or Lindblum.
>>739239542He was extremely relatable because he couldn't turn back or admit he was wrong so he just kept going even though he knew what he was doing was a lie.>>739239892He was always competing with Squall since they were kids at the orphanage.
>>739238671On a power scale, I think Squall is the weakest of all the FF protagonist. He’s basically a regular human with no actual magic or any attribute enhancements.
>>739241829>On a power scale, I think Squall is the weakest of all the FF protagonist. He’s basically a regular human with no actual magic or any attribute enhancements.Nah. You have a few other contenders for that spot.
>>739241875Which one? Even the weak ones get super strong at the end. Squall mostly depends on GF’s for his power and that was something they were phasing out by the end of the game. Even then, none of them in the games lore compares to the summons of the other games, and they don’t have any canon feats on the same scale either.
Wasn't Seifer canonically stronger than Squall by the end? They didn't even duel in the second half of the game anymore, he was fighting the party one vs three, cutting Odin in half and shit.
>>739242140Nah. That was cheating because Edea was buffing him.
>>739241998Vaan AFAIK doesn't have any special traits.Tidus literally isn't real. I'd also argue that Cecil isn't special, nor is Buttz.
>>739239071>It's kinda wild he got away with everything lmaoYeah I still can't get over this.>betrays you and the entire Garden and even his own friends because he failed the seed exam (again) and wants to fallback on trying to impress a teenage girl with terrorism because he's depressed>fails at this too and pretends to get mind raped as he commits atrocities so he can larp and impress magic milf titties, but he's really in control of himself the entire time>Seifer literally tries to feed your love interest and the girl he knew and started all this shit over to a giant magical demon tranny knowing it will initiate the apocalypse>this is the same guy who imprisoned you and your friends in Galbadia fully intending to leave you rotting there forever in between bouts of electric crucifixion torture which he personally oversees>all is forgiven in the end and you as the head of the military not only let Seifer live but let him go freeThere is zero reason Squall shouldn't have executed or at least imprisoned this psycho in the Garden. I can't help but notice this is a regular thing in Japanese media, where they let characters who committed great acts of evil go in the end for some reason.
>>739242202This plus Squall already beat him in a 1 v 1 at the end of a disc 1
>>739242251>There is zero reason Squall shouldn't have executed or at least imprisoned this psycho in the Garden. I can't help but notice this is a regular thing in Japanese media, where they let characters who committed great acts of evil go in the end for some reason.Pretty sure Squall is straight up dead at the end of the game anon.
>>739242251>I can't help but notice this is a regular thing in Japanese media, where they let characters who committed great acts of evil go in the end for some reason.That is often rare, most of the time said character would give his life to redeem himself or go through a massive character change
Final Fantasy has way too many bad people that didn't pay for what they did
Seifer was way cooler than Sephiroth.
>>739242420Steiner should have killed her
>>739242205I’d agree with Vaan, since a lot of his strength is gameplay and probably not canon, but Tidus becomes real, or at least corporeal at the end of X-2, and Bartz has magic and void abilities.
Reminder that R=U retards deserve to be shot on sight
>>739239892>>739239924Wait, Laguna's shit was just a movie in setting? I thought for some reason it was glimpses into the past or some something. I played the game during like Jr high so a lot of it is really fucking fuzzy to me
>>739242530You are right Q = U is where it is at
>>739242530R=U is a manly romantic dream even if not real therefore it too is part of FFVIII's theme
>>739242549No, it was a flash back. Just that particular scene where he uses a gun blade is a flashback of when he started in a movie. Yes, Laguna did a bunch of odd jobs after the war.
>>739242205Cecil is a lunarian.
>>739242503>but Tidus becomes real, or at least corporeal at the end of X-2He still doesn't have anything particularly special about him. He's a... Blitzball star? And apparently not even a very good one based on the in-game stats.
>>739242685We’re not going by stats or else Lightning or Clive would be the strongest characters. Tidus is an elite level athlete and being a “summon” gives him more endurance and durability than a regular human. He can also use magic without help and is canonically adept at time magic.
>>739242205Cecil si quite literally from the fucking moon
>>739243113And a goddamn paladin, but to mention an experienced combat veteran.
>>739242593too bad quistis has a weird ass nose that doesn't match
>>739243027Get help nigger
>>739242896I meant his Blitzball stats. For an ace player, he starts at like level 2.
>>739243623Yeah, but we’re not counting stats in general.
>>739241829Every ff8 character but the sorceresses are just regular humans with no magic or abilities on their own. They are literally just trained human child soldiers for hire that have magical beasts on their heads that give them the ability to steal magic from monsters so they can cast it later themselves or power themselves up with it.
>>739243027Hot
>>739242205Vaan is just a teenager, yes. But in that world you can learn magic and control mist if you are strong/skilled enough.Humans that can do magic naturally will always be stronger than regular humans can't do magic on their own.
>>739242251>Seifer literally tries to feed your love interest and the girl he knew and started all this shit over to a giant magical demon tranny knowing it will initiate the apocalypseI don't remember this
>>739242549Flashback but he's recording a movie during one of those flashbacks, right when some shit is happening in that high tech nation
>>739242251Funny thing, the main reason why he fails the exams is because he refused to use the uniform.
>>739239606His friends had to read him the riot act like he was a child, humiliation ritual style.
>>739239542You are a low IQ moron who needs characters to be cool or successful in order to enjoy them. Obviously you've never read or watched anything that isn't for children.
>>739241829Isn't his base accuracy 255 or something? I just remember a stat being so incredibly high I saw no reason to Junction a spell to it.
that piece of shit somehow cut odin in half
>>739244789And it was amazing
>>739244742Yeah gunblades don't miss in this universe for some reason
>>739244265When you return from space that country's security tells you must hand rinoa because she's a sorceress, they claim that they would better keep her powers in check. She accepts and goes with them. During this seifer tries to feed her to a tranny (FtM) looking sorceress so that tranny can be even more powerful
>>739244742Again, we’re not going by stats otherwise the newer games that can break damage limits and aren’t turned based would shit all over the older games. Lightning in LR can hit for 999,999 in a single attack, which would instantly wipe out every single other protagonist combined, so we’re not using game stats.
>>739244265>>739244872>Seifer fans actually think this was ok
>>739239892FF8 is so interesting with how the plot almost seems like they made up as they went along but then you have intricate details like this.
>>739241829Isn't he one of the younger FF protags too? I think Vaan and Zidane are younger then him. Anyways, Locke is also just an average human.
>>739238671Seifer is just like me. I dare say I AM Seifer.
>>739245062Locke really wasn't the protag, Terra was and even Celes was more important.
>>739244558Wasn't it because he completely ignored orders and endangered his squad while being a gloryhog?To this day I will never forgive this faggot for stealing all that magic I junctioned to him during Dollet.
>>739245062Yeah, but Terra is generally regarded as the protagonist of that game. Also, I think Vaan, Squall, and Tidus are all 17. Zidane is supposed to be 16 and Onion Knight is said to be 12-14.
>>739245094No way.....
>>739245249Thank you for believing me.
>>739244885Bartz in 5 is just a hobo with a chocobo
>>739244016I will say in all the dissidia games, Squall is generally shown to be the group leader and is the most trained in military tactics out of all the protagonists, so he’s kind of like Robin in Teen Titans in that regard.
>character's name is clearly SERAPHEE>Selphie>character's name is clearly KISTIS>Quistis>character's name is clearly SAIFA>Seifer>character's name is clearly LENORE>Rinoa>character's name is clearly AVAIN>IrvineWhat the fuck was wrong with FFVIII's localization team?
>>739245326yeah but a hobo named bartz, that makes his adventures cool
>>739245190>the game he tells you to let Seifer have the killing blows so he can get the most XP>if you do your part becomes underleveled as he then leaves your party foreverkek what the fuck did they mean by this?
>>739245421Because those original names suck.
>>739245421>What the fuck was wrong with FFVIII's localization team?You tell me anon
>>739239892>Because he is his father's son.wow hes just like me frfr
>>739238671He just wanted to be a big tit milf sorceress's footstool
>>739242593>>739243027Quistis was clearly best girl, Squall is a fag.>Quistis will never abuse and berate you penis with her Devour and Bad Breath attackswhy even live
>Massively important to the entire story>Adoptive sister to the central protagonist>Very link that connects timelines together>Appears 4 times in the entire gameVIII's shitty shitty writing is just indefensible sometimes.
>>739245828Quistis was a hag. Everyone knows the best girl was Zell. He can suck a hotdog down like you would not believe.
>>739238671Rival? Seifer stopped being a rival when he failed the exam. He then defected to become the sorceress knight and kept on losing every single time he met Squall. That´s not a rival, that´s a rug. A spiteful, pretentious rug. They do try to make him look cool by being able to one shot Odin but that changes nothing. As for Sephiroth, Sephiroth is no rival, Sephiroth is the antagonist and the apex. He had no rivals. Even first class soldiers like Zack were instantly trashed by him. Cloud only won because he impaled him from behind and then managed to throw his half dead ass into the lifestream. If you want to talk rivals you should discuss Sora and Riku from KH, those are rivals.
>>739242251>>this is the same guy who imprisoned you and your friends in Galbadia fully intending to leave you rotting there forever in between bouts of electric crucifixion torture which he personally overseesHe was just having a giggle with his childhood friend, it was all a prank.
>>739245601That is fucking hilarious.
>>739245828She won in my heart.
>>739239542TFW you call someone a chicken wuss. He 100% banged Edea too.
>>739245850Her elusiveness and always being on the edges of the story is an essential part of her character, you're a retard>Squall feels alone and abandoned by his 'sister'>she has to keep moving and be isolated because her power endangers everyone>hurr durr why isn't she around moreHonestly the average IQ on this board can't be above 85.
>>739246083Anon that's his mother...
>>739242251>I can't help but notice this is a regular thing in Japanese media, where they let characters who committed great acts of evil go in the endThis is a way to cope with their historical past where the USA got away with all of their warcrimes and flourished after WW2 while Japan and Germany struggled for decades under brutal occupation and monetary oppression.As of today, the USA hasn't once made amends or even apologized for their atomic terrorism and the thousands of civilian deaths they caused.
>>739239892I haven't played this game for nearly 20 years and this blew my damn mind.
>>739245828>>Quistis will never abuse and berate you penis with her Devour and Bad Breath attacksStop making me hard
>>739239542>Can't appreciate shit about the loser if he falls to pieces like a little girl in the last third of the game. He just becomes more and more pathetic and i'm still not even sympathetic or understanding as to why this jackass even has fans. He fails at pretty much everything he does in FFVIII.He fights the squad 3v1 and faces impossible odds without giving up to protect his woman.
>>739246226>Ultimania confirms that Ultimecia's goal with time compression was to gather all of Hyne's fragments that were scattered throughout time inside various sorceresses>She was planning on gathering all his powers in order to become a Goddess herself>People don't know that during the final boss fight, Hyne takes over Ultimecia's body thanks to time compression returning all the fragments of his power and their personalities get mixed up>Pic related, they literally show Ultimecia chained up and becoming Hyne's missing lower body that he had cast off in the past.Deepest lore
>>739245828Childhood is idolizing Quistis. Adulthood is realizing Selphie makes more sense.
>>739246090>>she has to keep moving and be isolated because her power endangers everyonewhat was her power again?
>>739246298>Becomes a summon in a later game
>>739244678Y-Yeah... he's clearly so amazing they made him Squall's rival in Dissidia, right?
>>739245595Lenore is kino and literally Americana.
>>739246131Did you even play the game? She was the matron for their orphanage. The story is retarded and everyone just so happens to have all been friends that just so happened to grow up in the same orphanage, but they just so happened to forget, because reasons. Either way, she isn't their mother.
>>739246531So, R=U=Seymour's mother?
>>739238671>Ultimately, Seifer ended up becoming someone that was broken.Doesn't seem broken to mehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/_4jJVKp6DK4
>>739239542Yeah well he cleaved Odin in two, basically making every other argument irrelevant
>>739241829He defeated time itself
>>739240861It really wasn't. FF9 and FFX did actual romance better than the retarded bullshit Nomura was pulling in FF7 and FF8. This is just high school aged kids that want to fuck but don't want to be close like that.
>>739243027L-l-l-l lewd....
>>739253691Fujin is a pure girl
>>739238671I just know that him killing Odin was one of the most wtf and cool moments ever
>>739245010needed more adel screentime and lore. her creepy ass messages on the radio broadcasts were cool.
>>739255394Whenever I think of Adel, i just tend to wonder if they just pulled Ultimecia at the last second seeing as the former had so much built up
>>739240958Years ago there was a video game news site that did an April Fool's gag that FF8 would get its own spinoff sequel that would focus on Seifer/Fujin/Raijin, and it was the sort of thing that people actually wanted to be true.
>>739246325Selphie acts like a ten year old
>>739255659>and it was the sort of thing that people actually wanted to be true.And that's understandable
>>739255778perfect
>>739255778>Selphie acts like a ten year oldWhere do you think you are anon
>>739256285>>739256201y'know what, that's on me, i should've known better
>>739256380It happens to the best of us
>>739240535>I warned you about 4chan Irvine
Did Seifer even do anything against the witch, after getting beat that last time? >>739239071Dude should've been exiled from the garden and several major cities/an entire continent, at the least. Or had the foresight to let people believe he died, and 'disappear' so he doesn't get trial'd and executed.Become a roaming vagabond 'knight' with his troupe elsewhere, as atonement.
>>739257363>Did Seifer even do anything against the witch, after getting beat that last time?No he gave Riona to Adel so she could be asborbed and left
>>739238671FFVIII is the Star Wars prequels of games.>universally agreed to be shit upon release>hated by fans and newcomers alike>boring>badly paced, badly written>zoomers tricked into liking it by essay youtubers who are full of shitIn fairness to FFVIII though, the CGI isn't total trash for the time.
>>739246298I still think all the the smiliarities between Rinoa, Edea and Ultimecia are just Hyne's influencemakes a lot more sense than weird alternate dimensions bullshit
>>739238671He's just a character they pre-ordered cinematics for a year in advance with halfass ideas then they had to slap something together for him to do. FF7 was developed in the same clinically retarded way as 8 doing shit like that but they just happened to land it
>>739246226If you visit the library in balamb garden, a student complains that someone is constantly renting that movie. It's Seifer, and he's watching it over and over again, getting more and more obsessed; his whole dream of being a sorceress' knight coming from that movie. As you progress through the game and fight him, you see that his clothes gradually become more tattered and ragged, signalling him losing his fucking mind.
>>739257363>Dude should've been exiled from the gardenNo normal person wants to live in the Garden in the first place. They send teens to die in the most retarded wars in histroy. Woo look at us the great TV antenna offensive we will have HBO now!!
>>739240773>almostYou can make a fade to black scene happen between them.>>739241829He's not. He's decently formidable.>GodsLightning (LR)>GodkillersZidane > Clive > Terra>BlessedWarrior of Light > Onion Kid > Butz > Cecil > Noctis>SuperhumansVincent > Cloud > Zack>MastersFirion > Yuna (X-2)>ProfessionalsBefore Crisis Protagonists > Squall > Lightning (XIII) > Ace > Ceodore>AmateursVaan > Serah > Lann > Tidus
>>739239071>It's kinda wild he got away with everything lmaoMaybe I've played too many Trails games but this seems to be really common in japanese games. Villains just kinda get away with shit. See also Orochimaru in Boruto or that chinese guy in Breath of Fire 4
>>739245828Anon...
>>739255920https://web.archive.org/web/20181207021727/http://www.thegia.com/archive/news/n990401b.htmlFound it. Funny thing to me now is that most of the clues that it's fake (like they'd reuse the same exact world map and models) wound up happening in X-2 anyway
>>739259058They put some effort at least, the soldiers being part of the party is a good way to fake it
>>739238671No ff8 is garbage
>>739253379According to Nojima in the Ultimania guide there is a huge possibility Squall and Rinoa won't remain together and something bad might happen in their future. That their story is more about enjoying the now and figuring out if they are truly in love.This despite Kitase saying he wanted a happy ending.
>>739238671Did you know in spinoff games, Seifer has Koyasu voicing aka DIO?
>>739245039Because they ran out of coherent story after disk 1. Then you're left with whatever cool ideas they had.
>>739259257>Seifer has Koyasu voicing aka DIO?Might be a hot take but he doesn't fit him at all
>>739245421>Character's name is clearly Ragna for Ragnarok>LAGUNA
>>739257363>dat scene when she breaks character and speaks normally, meaning up to that point it really WAS just her pretendingHow did Fujin speak in the original Japanese script?
>>739238671Get in the car, fuckers. We have an assassination mission to complete.
>>739259425Same, she just used Kanji to emphasize a curt, clipped way of speaking. It's actually one of the things the translation did ok at, the only real issue is that since she used ALL CAPS in English a lot of people playing assume she's just shouting her lines.
>>739255394>>739245010The messed-up thing is that there’s never a point in the game where we see the real Adel, she’s always either asleep or under Ultimecia’s control.Yes, even in those past segments where she’s squaring off against Laguna, she’s being possessed by Ultimecia.
>>739246090>>739259425I'm not sure how I feel about that model "upgrade".
>>739259548The localization is full of quirks like that. There are simpler ways to show a character speaks in a clipped manner without resorting to all caps.
>>739245421>what is phonetic name reading?
>>739238671>be Seifer>decide to genuinely base your life around LARPing as a movie character>decide to become a war criminal because your mom has evil brainworms from the future>launch nukes>murder children>feed your ex-girlfriend to a Sorceress just because>somehow, everyone forgets all of this and just lets you go free in the endingYeah, that sounds like a Nomura character.
>>739239347Sephiroth was at least a foil for Cloud.
>>739259849Don't forget he became leader of a country.
>>739259849
>>739239071>>739242251>Squall should have executed or jailed SeiferWhat would that accomplish?
>>739259849my man's so based even his enemies be like "yeah you're free to go nigga"seifer stans stay winning
>>739239071>It's kinda wild he got away with everything lmaoSomething clearly happened after I think Disc 2 because by that point Seifer was clearly no longer under the spell of Ultimecia, he had no reason to be on the other side anymore and easily could have joined Squall, his knight larp could have worked fine when he was mind controlled not afterwards it makes him look like a monster, the fact we got to play as him early on made the player expect to play him again it's a shame really
>>739259849Yeah he BASED. Squall should be happy he had the privilege of having such a awesome rival.
>>739260283Utimania hints that after he learned Laguna became a president he decided he'd become a leader as well.
>squall and rinoa find each other and have the relationship that his father and her mother were never able to make happenCute, but also feels kind of meaningless and a distraction the way it's presented in the game
>>739260620Just be happy they're not blood related, like they were in the original draft.
>>739260395>Utimania hints that after he learned Laguna became a president he decided he'd become a leader as well.Lmao, now I really wished they met each other in game
>739259204>No ff8 is garbage
>>739260778Would've been better desu
>>739260778>Just be happy they're not blood related, like they were in the original draft.
>>739238671Oh how curious I was told Nomura didn't write FFVIII or had no hand in the story. CURIOUS
>>739238671>faceless ntr deliquent in 1999seifer was truly a trailblazer...
>>739238671Funny because Seifer is the biggest jobber in the entire game. He's the final boss of disc 3 and an absolute joke. Every time you fight him he is a joke.
>>739242626Starred*, ESL, not started. Starred in a movie.
>>739239347It's kinda amazing how many people just ignore that the FF7 party is just a bunch of misfits who get better and safe the world.I mean at least with SE it's clear, they're fucking retarded but still
>>739246027you're a rube and a yokel
>>739259535To this day I want to strangle Quistis for abandoning her post during an important mission because she felt bad about how she scolded Rinoa.>Elite soldiersFucking women.
>>739244016In their heads, ESL. In. Not on.
Just a reminder, it was Seifer who introduced Rinoa to Cid, broke free to help the team kidnap the Deling President, and recognized Edea as his Matron.Why he kept serving Ultimecia after the fact is the real question and even he knew it was the wrong choice.
>>739260861https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPRTLDAeBcY
>>739243210The in-game story hyped up the Paladin class so much but the jist of his special abilities as one was the ability to hit zombies for full damage x2 right after you unlock it. ... but then later on none of the other melee classes have issues fighting zombies, it's so fucking silly, lmao. They should have made it so only he could do the last hit on some major bosses, or something.
People know Seifer started using the Gunblade because of the Laguna movie, but what many overlook is that Squall picked up the Gunblade because of Seifer. Squall idolized Seifer, even though Seifer was a bully.There are moments in the game when Squall admits that he always looked up to Seifer and wished he could be more like him.
Was it ever explained why the fuck Squall ended up at the Orphanage? I know Laguna is a huge fuck up but why didn't he take care of Squall when Raine died?
>>739262095Laguna had no choice but to remain in Esthar, unaware that Raine was pregnant, had passed away, or that their child had been put up for adoption.Laguna and Squall are juxtaposed in that Laguna is the dreamer who had to give up everything he wanted for the sake of duty and doing what’s right, while Squall is the soldier who went against his mission to fight for what he wanted for himself.
>>739262095Laguna left without knowing Raine was pregnant.
>>739262868>>739262791How did Raine die anyways?
>>739262903During childbirth, Squall’s head turned out to be too big.
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>>739262934dick*
Rinoa is trash
>>739261191He didnt.
>>739264108/thread
>>739264108>cute hapa is trash compared to generic white girlNah
>>739264145https://flaregamer.com/b2article.php?p=81&more=1
>>739264108She’s basically a psychopath who wanted to skin Mumbas alive.
>>739261889Everyone should be like Seifer to be honest my family.
>>739264228Sorry anon but white is right
>>739264228>implying Rinoa is a happa
>>739264395Look at that bitch shes clearly hapa
>>739264108The best endinghttps://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6238181&tags=quistis_trepe+squall_leonhart+
>>739265778That's seifer's dick
>>739265882What a greedy guy
>>739245190>endangered his squadThis is quite the reach. Squad B had no problem against X-ATM092, they were just working against the clock.
Reminder that Quistis doesn't wear knee-high boots, but simple pants with loafers
>>739266305She is tall for a woman
>>739238671Seifer was incredibly retarded. Not even his retarded friends helped him until the end.Not even Vaan was this retarded.
I'm going to totally pwn u l4m3rz rflmao
>>739261664He wanted to become a knight since he was a kid and saw Laguna's movie on TV. I dont know if we get the full plot in the game but I assume the knight was protecting a queen.
>>739245601Kino
>>739266626The fuck?
>>739238671>Seifer was one character Nomura created since he wanted to have a love triangle between Squall, Rinoa and SeiferThank god that didn't happen even more for the fact Riona sucks
>>739264108true
>>739270452Why do they look so perfect bros
>>739266108t. Fuijinthey lived because Squall carried them but that's not the pointthey were stationed at the town center, they weren't rated or expected to fight enemies of that caliber and they never would have if it wasn't for Seifer fucking around and leading them on some dumb boondoggles >>739270645because he's literally you
>>739271541I'm a hardcore fan with FF8, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in Balamb Garden where I would often train with Zell in the training center and help Selphie with the Garden Festival, but one day as I was talking to Selphie, we went to my dormitory for a private talk. She immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave her a confused look and she continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" She then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, silly!"This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. She then said, "I talked with Headmaster Cid and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for SeeD, you just have to do...one thing". She then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" She then said "Cid said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." She giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick...Get a gun and a nice shot to the head works.I then agreed and she gave me a kiss on the forehead, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.
>>739238671>FF7's Sephiroth was a rival with a strong impact, but he didn't want to repeat that same pattern. From that, he made Seifer more human since Sephiroth wasn't.Fun fact - in the original design document, Sephiroth was going to be Aeriths love interest. And his original design was basically Zack. Dodged a bullet there.Also Barret was going to be the one Sephiroth killed up until they started to properly script the game which is mental
>>739238885>chunniThe fuck is that? Oh God, are FF8 threads now Indian spam threads?
>>739271715>The fuck is that?Japanese word for an edgelord who ends up looking goofy newfag
>>739271706>Also Barret was going to be the one Sephiroth killed up until they started to properly script the game which is mentalSo that's why Barret not-died in the Remake.
FFVIII makes much more sense when you approach it from the mindset that it's a love story between 2 people rather than an ensemble cast. When you think of it as Squall and Rinoa being the main characters and everyone else is a support character it kind of clicks.Hell, Quistis, Selphie and Irvine just kind of fade in the the background at the exact moment that it becomes clear Rinoa wants to fuck Squall.
>>739271829Possibly. Nomura is ultra autistic and I genuinely think he means "Remake" to mean "Okay fuck the finished game. We're going back to the original design documents and making a new one".
>>739271918Yeah. They added tons of Compilation stuff to the game as well.
>>739271918I wonder how much other stuff they carried over from those original design documents. There was that thing they were going to do with the Honey Bee Inn originally but it seems like the entire concept of the thing was changed completely. At least we finally got a proper Don Corneo design this time.I wonder if the Gi stuff was originally planned for the Playstation release.
You know what I love about FFVIII? All the NPC dialogue changes after each story beat to reflect changes in the world
>>739244558Nah, it was because he disobeyed the order to standby. Simple as. Squall and Zell got away with it because they followed the orders of their squad leader.
The Gunblade lore in the game is cool>Squall has a new model Gunblade that vibrates at a higher frequency than Seifers which is why he holds it two handed >Generally Squalls Gunblade is seen as one that's difficult to master >He does more damage with the R1 trigger hits than Seifer does>Seifers Gunblade is an older lightweight model said to be used by intermediate users>He uses it one handed due to idolising the original Sorceresses Knight, Zefer, of which a movie was made of his exploits and the actor (Laguna) held it like this due to his inexperience with the weapon>Seifer then mastered this technique probably not realising Laguna just held the thing wrong >There's speculation that Seifer isn't his real name, and he instead took it on due to his obsession with Zefer>Seifers Gunblade, being an older lightweight model, does less damage with the R1 trigger than Squalls
>>739271856>FFVIII makes much more sense when you approach it from the mindset that it's a love story between 2 people rather than an ensemble cast. When you think of it as Squall and Rinoa being the main characters and everyone else is a support character it kind of clicks.Nigger that's the worst part.
>>739260283There's dialogue in Dieling City after I think the visit to Edea that says he's attempting a coup of the Galbadian army
>>739261889>but what many overlook is that Squall picked up the Gunblade because of SeiferWhere is this in the game?
>>739274337This happened because, according to the Ultimania, Seifer found out that Laguna was leading Esthar as president, prompting him to shift his goals from being a knight to ruling a country like Laguna. So he decided to fully take over Galbadia.
>>739274497Is the Ultimania available in English?
>>739271715You are underaged and shouldn't be here
>>739274523There's two versions, and you can find both in ExHentai. I think the one with the most information isn't translated, though.
>>739274570That's a shame. I do a replay of FFVIII yearly and have pieced together most of my knowledge from the NPC dialogue and such. Would be nice to get it from the source
>>739274671This one is in English.https://e-hentai.org/s/7efb036cb7/2323148-122There's a lot of cool information in there.
