>>739241064
what is better than what? I ain't clicking on no link

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>>739241064
(you)

>>739241064
diablo gameplay has always been dogshit

>>739241064
Both are great

Is Diablo 4 better than 3?

>>739242389
the shit sandwich is a bit better than the shit sundae

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>>739241064
yooo this gameplay fire

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>>739241064
Yes

Diablo 1 butcher fight was peak gameplay

>>739242448
3 ended up being really fun imo

Sup Diablo bros, I just finished Diablo 1 and I started Diablo 2 Resurrected, I'm on Act 4 now. Tyrael is so cool.

>>739242509
>not enjoying raining a billion fireballs down from god to destroy anything in your path
you have no whimsy

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>>739241064
>the Inarius fight right after

>>739242389
Nah, but it's close. 3s campaign on Torment 1 is peak Diablo imo

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>>739241064
holy sovl vs sovlless

That d4 clip looked like some shitty chinese diablo knock-off game at first.
I got bored of watching it after 5 seconds and it drags on for another 3 minutes, unbelievable.
Completely sauceless sound design, and an absolute diarrhea of meaningless visual clutter.
You bang your head against a level-scaled, damage sponge boss for what feels like 30 minutes while avoiding shitty unnecessary mechanics and spamming your own shitty builder-spender mechanics. All for stupid forgettable "legendary" loot that drops all the time. Pure brain rot torture.

Meanwhile in Diablo II, if you come prepared, all you have to do is time your potions well, as your character fights for dear life in a fast-paced clash against a horrifyingly strong nightmarish creature that would rape you in an instant if you approached it unprepared or without knowledge. A wary unprepared soul might enter Duriel's lair with a hand on their trusty town portal book, and have just enough time to create a portal and flee back to town after realizing they were no match for this demonic monster. Whether you die, flee or conquer this sinister beast, the game engraves an unforgettable experience into your soul, with unique sights and sounds that could only ever belong to the masterpiece that is Diablo II.

>>739241064
My main problem with D2 is
- Enemies immune to certain type of damage
- Sorc is the best class to farm
- Barb sucks super ass without good gear
- Magic find is super important for farming

>>739241064
bro expects me to click not one (1) but two (2) links

>>739246783
>- Barb sucks super ass without good gear
that is NOT true
barb sucks even with good gear

The angels in this franchise are so baller

>>739241064
I prefer D2 because the enemies stand and fight and you just slug it out with the boss. In D4 enemies just refuse to fight you and bosses have immunity phases where they just decide to stop taking damage and jump around the room farting instant death or poison zones. All I want is to hit demon until get loot.

>>739244918
nostalgia talking unc

>>739242509
Why does the ceiling not collapse?

>>739247858
it's magic i ain't gotta explain shit

>>739241064
D1 is the only good game in this "genre" since it's the only one that plays like a game and not an endless grind simulator

>>739248229
Why do rat posters have consistently awful taste in games

>>739242389
There is no Diablo 4 or 3. Diablo died at 2: Lord of Destruction when Blizzard (North, the only good Blizzard) died in 2005.

>>739248229
They exist.

>>739248410
Liking arpgs at all is terrible taste. Like every rat poster is just this boring stereo typical semen slurper.
>blizzslop
>GWslop
>rpgslop
>single player RTS
Yep it's ratposter time

>>739248287
they're all gay

>>739241064
>9 digit damage instances
>invuln phases
>stay out of the fire
I enjoy throne of darkness more than this nublizz slop

>>739242023
Isn't this the same thing for all these style of ARPGs? Whether it is POE, Diablo, or the other kinds they all look the same to me.

>>739244918
based and true

>>739241064
It is

>>739241064
>entire genre is a loot slot machine
>but the only truly good loot drops late game and everything else gets outleveled quickly
>this means every fucking diabloid game has people rush through the meticulously crafted campaign at the speed of light thinking of it as a time tax and then they grind the same maps and boss runs for a thousand hours
Why are the devs like this?
Why not just make recipes that upscale low level uniques to high level viable stats?
Why not drop low level utility loot that's good at endgame still?
Why must every fucking game in this genre be like this? There'll always be more and less efficient ways to farm, but at least make the campaign count for something.

J9

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>>739248527
Roblem?

>>739252141
everything you described is fixed in median xl and project diablo2

>>739248527
>single player RTS
Huh? I haven't played a singleplayer rts since wings of liberty on launch day

>>739252583
Median doesn't just have immunity phases it has bosses that flat out immune unless you gimp your build because you have to blow a gearslot on an item that does nothing except cast 1 fixed damage spell that is the only thing to hurt every boss after travincal

>>739253365
tempest rising had a really fun campaign, would recommend

Diablo 2 is the more polished, intellectual and pro-consumer game, but I just think the combat is more fun in the games that come after.

>>739241064
both are ass

>>739254327
Can't deal with rts campaigns sorry. It's just so boring building up a base every single mission

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPSX9mx2FLo
How boring and small

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>>739241064
Diablo peaked with Witch Doctor.

>>739241064
Don't like the ADHD flashy skills in D4.
Don't like the stupid story in D4.
Don't like any of the characters in D4.
Don't like nublizz slop in general.
Simple as. Diablo 2 might be dated, but it's a game from an era where developers were passionate about what they were creating, and it shows every step of the way.

>>739242509
Why do the spell effects look so much better than d4 a 25 year newer game?

>>739256628
stop noticing things and buy the slop

>>739256223
Too bad the meta builds didn't include his most fun attacks like plague swarm

>less than 1 minute to farm a boring boss vs
>3 minutes+ to farm a boring boss

lmao diablo 2 wins again

They went way too hard on the mmo live-service shit with 4.
I can only hope one of the final updates to the game will reduce how invasive it is and introduce an offline mode.
Even Diablo 3 can be played offline on console, and on PC it still doesn't feel nearly as invasive as 4.

>>739257816
>3 minutes+ to farm a boring boss
dude is weak af
i farm boring bosses in like 20seconds and im weak too

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We need to see Imperius again
Do you think we will go to the High Heavens in a later expansion?

>>739248171
No one's forcing you to stack magic find and grind the same areas or bosses over and over for gear upgrades once you've beaten Ba'al on Hell difficulty. If some people get enjoyment out of collecting all the rares then I don't really see that as a minus, its the equivalent of JRPGS having an optional grindy post-game for people who liked it enough to want more, but I personally cleared the game with all the hero's and that was all I wanted out of it.

>>739244918
>mechanics are unnecessary, actually what makes things threatening is spamming potions through all bosses
Uh huh

>>739258602
It would be nice if the whole war between heaven and hell was actually happening. Instead it's hell being the only ones doing anything while heaven is a non-factor outside of 1-2 characters. The D1 manual even set it up so that Hell itself was under seige by Heaven while the prime evils were trapped in the mortal world.

>>739252141
>meticulously crafted campaign
LMAO
Anyway even if good items can drop at low level, and in some games do, theres no way you can farm more efficiently at low level than high level so scarcity will prompt you to rush to endgame anyway

>>739241064
Which mobile game is the one on the bottom?

if u cant enjoy d2 gameplay u might just be braindead

>>739259824
you can ask Tyrael at end of D4 expansion why heavens do nothing and hes like "they got sick of dealing with you guys and just hope you die out by yourself"

Diablo 1 is the only good Diablo

Diablo 2 remake worth it lads? Still have my original disc's and key...

>>739241064
d4 has the worst particle effects, absolutely embarassing. Blizzard cant escape their cartoony aesthetic even when they try to make a dark game.

>>739241064
>https://streamable.com/216xxn
jesus this is bad, how is this even the same series

>>739261424
I got falsely excited when I saw Disintegrate was a new spell in the expansion thinking I would get my sick laser beam from d3 again. Then I tried it and my hopes were dashed, it was just a shitty blue fart in some ways less impressive than the basic chain lightning. How are they so bad at their jobs?

>>739261384
The fact that you can play it without it being a tiny 800x600 window is nice, I guess. Just about everything else about it is worse though. I really resent the fact that it forces you to be online even in offline single player mode. If you can get it for cheap go for it, but when I paid 50 dollars for it years ago I ended up feeling like it wasn't worth the money.

>>739241064
>pure kino soul with actual skill and game knowledge to defeat a boss
vs
>rollslop, artificial difficulty padded out boss fights due to big-numberslop

I'm 32 in D4 and not having any more fun than if I was playing some other mindless game.
The butcher keeps showing up with no narrative reason.
I hate spawning enemies.
There is no clear story path since the whole map is open and you have a horse

>>739241064
I'd glare at you until you died of a bursting skeleton anon. Go to hell where you belong

>>739241064
>>739242389
>>739242509
Diablolikes are barely videogames, they are closer to idler "games" than action games or rpg games

I just beat baal on normal does anything get harder than normal mode duriel?

I enjoyed D1, D2, D3, and D4

>>739262846
same, also DI at the start

>>739256223
Shitty knock off of the goat necromancer

diablo 2 is not bad but it is very much a product of its time and anyone who says otherwise is just coping. i think torchlight 2 is better, for example. but even it is still dated. so then we look at path of exile. a good game for its time but arguably very dated in today's environment. do i think diablo 4 is good? in its current state its okay. last epoch is okay but feels more like a framework but a vastly improved last epoch 2. is path of exile 2 good? honestly i think it is an improvement over the first game but it has a long way to go. basically, game design is iterative and we must be patient.

diablo2 isnt bad its just the current year is 2026. weve played this shit to death. poe is boring. diablo is boring. grim dawn is boring. we need new games. i feel bad for the kids of today who have no good games to anchor themselves to. they will be nostalgic for fucking fortnite in 20 years and they wont even be able to play it because it modern games are run by jews who can turn them off forever at any time.

Way harder unless you really know what you're doing. Nightmares about the same difficulty as normal,but later when you get to hell the enemies have 2 immunities and the difficulty spike goes up substantially. You also get huge penalties on your resistances so you take a fuckton of damage. You're completely fucked if you put all your points into one element of damage, and you do considerably less damage when splitting your points into two trees and sometimes they're just going to be immune to both trees you talented into anyway. Expect to spend a lot of time in hell just running away from enemies that aren't even worth your time trying to kill. Durials actually not that bad if you just chug thawing potions

>>739267340
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>>739256628
that's d2r you silly nigger
the original effects look even better