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>>739243570
It's just some qol to smooth out the gameplay.

>>739243667
bot post

>>739243709
Go back.

>>739243570
you don't miss much anyway

>>739243570
This thing is forbidden knowledge. Once you know of it you can't go back and you lose the desire to play the game.

>>739243667
>qol mods remove all challenge
Might as well just use cheat engine at that point.

>>739243570
To be fair, in breath of the wild, I went straight for the towers, marked each shrine I could see from the top of them, and then relied on the radar to find most of the rest of them, I didn't do much in the way of exploring.

>>739243729
your spam posts had absolutely nothing to do with the OP

>>739243570
More like it makes the Depths bearable

>>739243752
Agreed.
I played the absolute shit out of botw and scoured every inch of the map to see what was there
In totk i got so bored with exploration with flying vehicles you build that i just stopped playing and never completed it
It doesnt help that every location felt like i'd already been there in botw too

>>739243826
You simply did not understand the post. Go back to where you came from.

>>739243931
>retard that has been spamming his dogshit for a year thinks he is le oldfag

>>739243570
>I have no self control

>>739243752
Thankfully I never thought of it

>>739243570
If you're just trying to go from point A to point B sure, but the correct way to explore the depths is to throw a large brightbloom seed on your hoverbike

>>739243978
If you can't understand the connection between >>739243667 and >>739243570
and the implications then you really should go back.

>>739244109
I know what the implication was, but that doesn't make the post anything less than bot-tier dogshit spam with no real relevance to the thread topic.
>hurr durr bike is like these QoL mods that I have an obsession with!
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/6kfPOB1S%2BVW8qJEAKxe9qg%3D%3D/

>>739243910
>I played the absolute shit out of botw and scoured every inch of the map to see what was there
I mean this was the other part of the problem for me. If I hadn't already explored the world so meticulously in BotW I might have been okay with flying around on a hover bike all over the place. But it really felt like I was just going through the motions and filling out a checklist with a flying mount that solved almost everything.

>>739243570
Do you know how much you have to explore just to get enough battery power to actually make use of this thing?It's not like you can just make it and skeet-skeet through the sky, you need lots of battery power which involves you da-da-da, exploring.

>>739244215
No you did not.
>faggy exclamation mark
Go back.

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>>739243667
>no ring

>>739244479
>points out the exclamation mark instead of the "le"
you really are just a newfaggot projecting

>>739244470
>implying they played the game

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>>739244215
nta but you need to lurk moar.

>loved botw
>hated totk
What did I mean by this?

>>739244539
>pointing out le instead of hurr durr

>>739244582
Why would I enter his dogshit spam threads?

For me it's the horse-drawn wagon with a mounted turret.

>>739244582
This isn't a noita "qol" mod thread anon, that faggot first poster wanted to derail the thread immediately.

>>739244704
>,
Kill yourself.

>>739244623
how would we know? we can't read your mind

>>739243752
>>739243910
>>739244327
>you could build a big flying machine with powered zonai lights
>...or you could build a hoverbike and slap a (weightless) brightbuld on it
the balancing for the zonai devices/ultrahand is laughably bad. What is the fucking point in zonai lights that add weight, consume energy, and are uncommon resources when you have brighblooms fucking everywhere that are completely weightless and infinite.
It absolutely baffled me that shit like this was overlooked, it undermines so many creations.

>>739244470
This is like, the single most battery-efficient steerable vehicle in the game

>>739244470
What >>739244896 said.
This is the most efficient vehicle possible, you cannot make a more efficient vehicle than this with the tools available in the game.

Overrated. You will get better milage out of wings early game the short lifespan still lasts longer then your battery. And if you grind for battery there is no reason not to grind for green rocks to make more wings.

I will say flying can make things seem harder then they are. The world is still built in a way that can be easily navigated on foot. If you fly you will miss the natural signposting that helps guide you to secrets.

>>739244704
You are the only person derailing this thread with absolutely zero value.

>>739244990
>And if you grind for battery there is no reason not to grind for green rocks to make more wings.
Those same green rocks (zonaite) are used as the currency for battery upgrades. If you're farming them you may as well spend them on upgrading your battery reserves.

I completely skipped breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom. Are they worth checking out?

>>739245158
botw yes
totk not really

>>739244947
>>739244896
They should've patched it out. A few exploits are fine but this one is basically breaking the game.

>>739244947
cant you make the same thing with just the one fan on the back?
its been a while but thats what i used for most of the game before i got bored

>>739245239
Fan is good but not nearly as incredibly versatile and effective as OP's monster, which also doesn't expire.

>>739244896
>>739244947
I agree with you. But it doesn't change the fact that you need multiple full batteries to get anywhere close to it's potential and even then you're still going to be scouring the land for more batteries so you can fly longer. If you try flying it on a single battery you aren't getting very far.

>>739245158
Yes and yes.
Totk feels like an expansion pack for botw rather then a proper sequel, but its still a very impressive game.

I still dont understand how people can complain about the reused map like they memorized every inch of topography, the world does change between games and for me thats part of the appeal.

>>739245186
But is it better than skyrim?

>>739243570
Fuck you I don't even ride the horses if I don't have to.

I used the hover bike, but thankfully I am retarded and didn't even consider it until I was already at least halfway through the game. However it did stifle my desire for exploration, outside of already having a couple battery armor pieces and using it to explore the sky and the underground, which was fun for a time before realizing all challenge is removed when flight is involved. Puzzle? Fly around it. Really was poor foresight on Nintendo's end.
Now the dupe glitch which I kept due to having the 1.0 release, that was a quality of life mechanic. They shoulda just made that a feature. Thank God I never put any money into it.

>>739245328
>>739245318
Nice samefagging, eric

>>739244528
>stealth goatse

>>739245239
You mean a hoverbike with an extra fan for more forward thrust?
Sure, I don't see why it wouldn't work, but you are adding more weight and consuming more energy for little gain. The 2 fans + steering stick is the most energy-efficient vehicle in the game, certainly the most efficient flying machine but it even rivals most wheeled vehicle designs.
>>739245297
>you need multiple full batteries to get anywhere close to it's potential
This is true of literally every zonai contraption you make, it is not a problem exclusive to the bike. If anything, the bike suffers less since it is a very efficient vehicle.
>>739245328
Different type of game

>>739243570
explore for what? 8 minutes of a copy paste dungeon just to get 100 rupees at the end? wowee

>>739245501
Why should I play anything except for Skyrim?

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>>739245239
Oh I misread this post, you meant a single fan + steering
This "works" but is borderline impossible to control.

>>739243752
I still don't know how to build it without it controlling like ass

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>Make something from the ground up for the game.
>For the sequel, you barely change a thing to the overall structure, but just add a couple of gimmicks and pretend it's new.
Oh. Ah. Right.

I still have no idea who Eric is.

>>739245634
>luna lilith evangeline
lmao

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>>739243752
nah, it made the game so much better, ran everywhere but for those annoying areas i just pop one of these and im outtie

>>739245093
Efficiancy is overrated.
You have infinite rocks,
Energy efficiancy is made irrelevant by overcharged cores.

>>739245634
They turned all static objects into physics objects in TOTK and the Switch is not exploding.

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>>739245502
>>739245537
>>739245556
>>739245634
>>739245663

Nice samefagging, Eric. Couldn't even stop yourself from exposing yourself

>>739245729
what are you talking about?

>>739243570
This is the one time
>You control the button you press
Is actually apt

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>>739243570
Didn't for me

>explore whole cave
>get an arrow and an apple as reward
this game does not reward exploration at all

>>739245756
He's talking about recharging the zonai battery while it's active on a build. Yes you can do this, yes it nullifies the point of the battery, yes the dupe glitch made this much easier

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>>739245556
dont respond to him, he is a sole mentally unwell nintranny that has vowed to protect everything related to nintendo and his only response is always the same

>>739245826
if you didn't also get the bubbulgem you didn't explore it fully.

>>739245864
I don't want to constantly pause the game to use more zonai cores when I could just upgrade the battery a bit

>>739245870
>>739245826
Nice samefagging, eric

I feel like I could replay BotW, but I could never replay TotK. It's so unnecessarily big and empty.

>>739245925
It's like 3 menus and maybe 5ish seconds at most. I see where you're coming from, but it's there and people used it. I did. I'm fact doing it with a fully powered battery was actually even more beneficial.

>>739246098
I only used it early-game, by mid-game I had enough upgrades to not care

The weapon system is the worst thing about TotK, imo. The Nuts and Bolts shit can be mostly ignored by using the most simple solution and using presets.

>>739245864
Im just talking about using a large charge which gives infinite battery for a short time.

But really between attachable batteries, usable charges, and the fact recharging doesnt take much time.

I dont get how BotW had people bragging that they never used teleports and just walked everywhere, and totk has people complaining that driving the equivilent of a prius isn't very fun.

>>739246237
large zonai charges are somewhat rare and honestly better saved for perma battery upgrades instead.

>>739246148
Fair enough, I too felt that afyer a certain point the battery was fine on its own, painfully efficient on the hover bike. Made it unfair to not build it. After awhile I just stuck to making cool land crawlers and speeder bikes to limit my ability to break the game.

>>739246364
Are they? I was throwing them into the gachapon dispensers for better payouts. You could buy them from the shops too.

>>739243570
I never used a hoverbike during my whole 100 hours of gameplay, and the only times I would create a vehicle would be to transport Koroks or do specific side quests. I took the same approach I did with BotW which was exploring by foot and just taking my time going from place to place.

I can imagine how finding out early about the hoverbike would ruin a lot of people's experience with the game, once I started using it (which was pretty much right before heading to Ganondorf) I realized how piss easy it became reaching literally any area in the map as long as you had the battery to do so.

>>739246530
You're right I was thinking of zonaite
They really didn't need to split this up into 3 separate currencies.

>>739246585
>I did with BotW which was exploring by foot and just taking my time going from place to place.
This. Teleport and glider is more than enough anyway.

>>739243570
>can make cool vehicle to explore
>except you have no battery without first exploring
>by the time you get enough batteries to actually be able to explore freely with any of these machines you have already had to explore

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>>739243570
The sad thing is that you don't even need the bike to achieve this. Fast travelling to sky shrines or towers and then just using a zonai wing lets you cover 95% of the map. There's like 15 caves and 4 wells worth exploring, and more than half of them are incredibly obvious that they are important, even from the air. You can just go up high and drop down to an objective, fast travel back up high, and do it all over again.

The game would've been 100x better if the depths didn't exist, the sky was way bigger, the gloom was all over the surface instead, and the game was about people that were forced to take to the skies in a bunch of sky islands to survive, slowly making expeditions below and building (you know, the point of the game) back hyrule as they find new ways to overcome the gloom. Gorons struggling because they can't mine to eat, zoras because there ain't no water up there, rito can't fly because of high winds at high altitudes, and gerudo having to open up their civilization because trade and displacement becoming mandatory for survival.

instead we got a quarter baked sky, an underground thats only value is looping 2 spots for rocks to make more bikes and get pristine weapons, and a surface with trivialized exploration.

>>739246585
I feel like the discovering the hoverbike is a natural progression, the game basically says "make a flying device that can lift and transport X object" and the natural progression of that is the hoverbike when you think "what if I only transport myself". Mine was a trike when I first made it because I found the attachment of the fans worked better in a triangle pattern and I assumed a bike wouldn't turn as well and keep balance in the air as it does, but most people I know that played it came up with some similar flying device completely naturally and it always completely ruined exploration for them.

>>739246585
You successfully mostly avoided one of the single biggest issues with the game, which is that with the exception of the Hover Bike, creating a vehicle or machine of any kind takes longer and is more resource intensive than just doing things without them.
I'm usually intrinsically motivated to build stuff for the hell of it, but the downsides of it were so high that it never actually ended up feeling rewarding. At most I got a "neat" out of strapping a rocket platform to a korok

>>739246175
>>739247090
>>739246945

Eric, the Nintendo seethe thread spent 17 hours on just died

>>739247342
What the fuck are you talking about, schizo?

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The thing about exploration in BOTW and TOTK is that there are 2 ways to appraoch it
- Roaming around, climbing moutains to skip roads or skip areas, this is what everyone does on their firsrt playthrough because they couldn't know any better or they don't care about optional stuff. This will quickly result in the feeling of the map feeling small and uninteresting. This kills exploration fast and makes you want to get over with it.
-following the roads, there are main roads your horse follows and side roads not mapped yet still visible that lead to any areas. If you plan your exploration after reaching the tower and unlocking the map you can easily clear out an area of side content while onward the main quest in way less time than it takes going back trying to find what you missed.
Despite it being an open world there is a logic to the map and where things are, how to navigate it. Respecting the roads gives you a more fruitful and fulfilling experience than just "I want to go there", skip roads and gets unfulfilling rewards.
Ignoring the logic of roads make open worlds boring, you lose the dynamic that comes with enemy camp, shrines and korok puzzles placements that make it all cohesive. Like playing an actual video game with levels.
Being able to climb anywhere gave players the wrong type of freedom. Harshly punishing them for being impatient and negatively influencing their experience overall.

>>739243752

Sounds like a (You[retard]) problem. I built it once to try it then went right back to never interacting with the zonai shit outside of fusing goblin bits onto my weapons. If a mechanic makes the game worse just don't use the mechanic. It's literally that easy.

>>739243570
>snoy seethe post
-3million karma to ziony

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>>739243570
Zonai devices removed tedium from the exploration. It didn't remove the fun or my desire to explore.

>>739243570
there's nothing worthwhile to explore in that game anyway
shrines have basically destroyed zelda

>>739247673
that would be true if you didn't have to farm zonai rocks in the depths

>>739247374
>>739247565
>>739247697
Total Eric meltdown.

>>739243752
Look on the bright side, technically the building in this game fails every definition of "game", so you're not skipping any gameplay.

>>739247673
Shit is slow and unpractical, you trash it once the terrain is no longer flat

>>739245634
>bottom left still has stubble
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>739247915
>>739247857
Total Eric meltdown

>>739244883
>What is the fucking point
fun. the point is to have fun. you are the retard trying to minmax a singleplayer offline game meant solely to amuse you

>>739244215
Love how the archive always makes schizos seethe

>>739248035
Coming to the realization that zonai powered lights are worse in every way to brightblooms is not "minmaxxing", it's common sense.

>>739244883
Same reason why you dont throw gemstones on arrows when you have elemental fruits that basically do the same job.

Was anyone else majorly let down by the Akkala Citadel in TOTK? I thought it was going to be a big cool dungeon, not just two stock caves and a room.

>>739248249
at least gemstones have monetary value

>>739243570
>Rockets have limited fuse time
>Gliders despawn after a certain amount of air time
>Bosses can de-weld anything you can make
>Cars are severely limited by batteries
This is the only way to explore because they made everything else shit

>>739244704
yeah disregard me, first poster sucks cocks

>>739248339
Caves in general were a massive disappointment, they turned the Shrine of Resurrection into a shitty ass cave of all things.

>>739248107
and yet i still had fun building with them
you must be doing something wrong i guess

>>739243570
the desire for exploration comes from within. having an easy means/method of doing it does not undo the desire. you have nobody to blame but yourself.
>>739243752
same as above. desire comes from within.
>>739243910
burning out on the first game and having the second game reuse most of the major features is not, thus reducing the reward for exploration, is not the fault of the method/vehicle of exploration. you're just burned out.
>>739245418
you lack goals and focus.

>>739245607
it helps to use some sort of block that sits at a right angle. i used a ledge in gerudo town. you put the control stick flat on it with the front facing off the ledge, then stand in front and hold and angle the fan to attach to the front. be sure to stand straight in front of it and hold the fan directly between you and the control stick, so nothing attaches crooked. basically do the same for the back, just making sure that the control stick is sitting flat and level. maybe use some planks or something to rest things on for stability. its all about attaching things straight.

>>739248468
>>Bosses can de-weld anything you can make
they wont do that if its far enough away. rocket a laser battery drone above the fight and laugh.

>>739243752
>This thing is forbidden knowledge. Once you know of it you can't go back
I did know of it, and I still just used the 4-fan design because it's superior and I was never hurting for stones.

>>739243570
>Makes the game playable
Thank god for tears of the kingdom.

>>739243570
it's easy enough to ban from use but yeah sadly the building stuff is really only to cut down on travel time and not really a huge part of the game, which is kind of a shame. most fun I had with the building was the quest where you needed to go logging for the coastal village, I built a pick up truck and drove around cutting down trees and loading them up. game needed more of that, as is the bulk of the building is just making whatever the shrine wants you to make, the sign bozo and the koroks.

>>739243570
>looked up youtuber reddit meta instead of playing the game yourself and making whatever you thought of in the moment
You got only one person to blame there.

>>739250776
If you're not playing the meta then you're playing wrong.

>>739251034
maybe if it's a competitive multiplayer game sure

>>739249479
are you just taking the piss? falseflagging, maybe?
as otherwise I have no clue what you'd be using zonai lights for in your vehicles.

You don't need hoverbike at all. Go to any sky island and use either the zonai wing or just your glider. Congrats, you can cross huge stretches of the map in minutes.
The game is fundamentally fucked.

>>739243570
totk is just a barely tested prototype lazily built on top of an existing game then sold at full price

>>739251279
>I have no clue what you'd be using zonai lights for
oh, i use them for fun

>>739251458
>dev puts stuff in the game
>retards assume that they didn't notice the impact it has on how the game is played
are you guys dumb on purpose or what?

>>739251279
>>739251513
Nice samefagging, pedophile Eric.

>>739251513
eh it's certainly built on top of an existing game but the build stuff and physics are VERY polished. It just feels like they put all the dev time into the polish while neglecting to make any worthwhile gameplay around the building.

>>739251546
how is a light "fun"?
idgi.
The zonai flamethrowers are fun, even the functional zonai pieces like zonai stabilizers are fun, but the lights are just an on/off light source and they aren't even as bright as giant brightblooms...

>>739251643
idk bro. i had way more fun with the lights than i did with flamethrowers. i probably only put down a single flamethrower the entire time i played that game.
you sound like a gay boy

>>739251632
Physics are polished but everything else surrounding constructs is fucked. Constructs despawn 5 meters away from you, there's only 1 or 2 viable setups to use against white enemies, any harder enemy just roars constructs away, and that's just for starters.

>>739251786
>idk but [ad hominem]
wow you sure convinced me

>>739251821
Eric, lying won't save your snoytranny ass

>>739251821
sadly like BoTW the game doesn't really want you to engage in the sandbox for combat, they want you to to mash attack and exploit the easiest version of witch time to ever hit a videogame. As traversal tools they're quite nice, but a level of restraint must be used to not just fly over everything in the game.

>>739251973
See >>739251946

>>739251973
Ground vehicles were quite ass in my opinion, i never managed to build anything that was better than horses. For rivers and flying they are good, although your own glider with the champion power still beats a lot of flying constructs and you don't need to spend time menuing.
Speaking about menuing, what the bloody fuck was that interface? Do they have any playstesters in their team at all?

>>739252118
them doubling down on the weapon durability system by mandating every weapon require menuing to be fused sure was a choice. I didn't hate the disposable nature of weapons in BoTW but I sure did grow to resent the system come Tears

>>739252118
Don't play Echoes of Wisdom. Aonuma added that single line scrolling menu to that game too, he probably thinks he's Steve Jobs of vidya. No other way to explain that retardation. You can't even favorite your most used arrows/echoes/etc, you have to scroll, every, fucking, time.

>>739250776
you don’t even need to make this, the goblin glider is essentially the same thing but with worse handling, and that’s literally just the two fans and the steering stick arranged horizontally on a flat ground, an extremely intuitive design that almost anyone can figure out. i ran around with a goblin glider myself for a while until sheer osmosis online exposed me to the better design, you can still fly to 90% of the places you can fly to with a hoverbike

>>739243910
>I played the absolute shit out of botw and scoured every inch of the map to see what was there
How? It's all empty with the same 15 enemies.

>>739243570
I didn't play TotK and never intend to, but the impression I got is that 80% of the world is intended to be skipped over so that the vehicle building mechanics serve any practical point whatsoever.

>>739243570
>forever removes BotW from GOAT contenders
Notice how that happened? How can you be a GOAT if your sequel is better? And how can the sequel be a GOAT if it feels like a DLC campaign? A w'allah Zelda is made irrelevant in all GOAT conversations

>>739252832
Did you know there are tons of different bird species in BOTW. each specific to their own region? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o99A5-c5Fpw

You tards literally only care about loot, you can't appreciate the actually nice games without any skinner box mechanics.

>>739253026
>>739252982
Cry harder, eric

>>739253114
It's the game's job to make you care

>>739252706
This is exactly what made me drop echoes of wisdom lmao.

>>739251838
where's the ad hominem anon? be specific

>>739253216
And you care.

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>>739243570
>>739243752
This, it just makes everything in the game pointless
need to get somewhere?, build a hoverbike
explore the depths?, build a hoverbike
need to bring to cristal or another thing to a certain point? build a hoverbike and glue the thing to it
place is to high?, build a hoverbike
some retarded minigame or quest?, build a hoverbike
Honestly, im still surprised they didnt patch this. It's really sad to stuff like the fire temple for example, you can clearly see the developers intended way on how to explore and solve the dungeon (all the rails system), but why botter with it when you just can build a hoverbike and get to all the points? in the dungeon. Sadly i realized too late i ruinded the game for me by building this shit...

When i played Echoes of Wisdowm later, i found some ways on how to exploit the game with some echoes, but this time i just chose to play in the developers intented way, i knew i was going ruin the game again... They really need to tone down this "freedom" for next games

>>739253114
These superficial details don't matter. They are not the content you engage with. There was just a birdwatcher in the dev team.

>>739253918
>>739254106
Nice chatgpt shit, Eric.

>>739253918
The problem is TotK, and BotW to a lesser degree, grant the player too much freedom. Gameplay can be neutered down to its lowest degree with shit like the hoverbike and climbing and it undermines creative or intended solutions. If Nintendo were smart they'd realize there's a middle-ground between the linear design of older 3D Zelda like OoT and TP, and nu-Zelda's freedom. But of course they're just going to double-down on the freedom aspect because they have no idea what makes this series good and BotW sold well.

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>>739243752
>mfw I spent the longest time trying to create my own flying machine after hearing that it was definitely possible
>Every build used the wing, because why wouldn't I? It's the goddamn wing, of course you're meant to fly with it
>Everything I try is completely fucked, nothing works, think I'm failing or horribly misunderstanding something
>Turns out the wing has intentionally-fucked physics
>Heavy as shit, doesn't steer well with control sticks, some other "doesn't fly well" physics jank that I don't remember
Never felt so ripped off.

>>739254320
>>739254364
See >>739254260

>optimize the fun out a game
>somehow it is the game's fault
do you need to be taught how to enjoy things

>>739254364
The wing expires in 1 minute I believe, it's almost completely pointless outside of the tutorial where you're forced to use it in place of the glider because you don't have it yet.

The fans expire after 30 (!) min of active (!) use (the timer doesn't tick when they're turned off).

>>739248468
Gliders and hot air balloons having a despawn timer fucking sucks shit, death to whichever designer implemented that.
You can't even hot air balloon out of the depths before it despawns, you have to prep a second one midair to jump into.

>>739254780
>>739254776
Least obvious samefagging, Eric.

>>739244704
Uh-oh, you triggered the Jeet bot posters by callin them out.

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>>739254816
calm down schizo. I liked TotK for the most part.

>>739254780
gliders I think it's fine, though they should've made it so you can't just replace one while gliding for infinite air time. but the hot air balloon's only limitation should be battery

>>739255661
At the very least glider should physically break mid flight to explain why it despawns

>>739243752
I disagree, I wanted the game just to be over at one point but still wanted to see if there was some purpose to some collectables. There wasn't.

>>739255661
>>739257076
>>739256030
Least obvious page 10 bumps

>>739257165
take your meds

>>739257165
You do know you're a bigger lolcow that whoever is Eric at this point, right?

>>739257165
you do alot more to keep these threads alive than I will ever do. thank you for your service

>>739257201
>>739257270
>>739257348
>instant meltdown
KWABOOTY, nic samefagging. Totally not obvious, it's totally natural for a thread to instantly get three replies after being dead for an hour.

>>739257448
all you have to do to let the thread die is to stop posting

>>739257448
Thanks for the bump, schizo.

>>739257602
>>739257638
Eric, nobody is falling for that coping and page 10 bumping.
And I didn't ;)

>>739257754
But you just did, retard.

>>739243570
The desire was removed when they reused the map.

>>739257270
there never was an eric to begin with, it was all in this schizo's tiny mind

>>739257912
>>739257806
>>739257804
>always in groups of three
You lost ;)

>>739243752
cognitohazard

Fine, I'm not giving (You)s anymore.

>>739257952
Brother, go touch some grass I implore you.

>>739258000
Checked and trve.

>>739243570
Only if you're retarded enough to go on the internet and watch how others do shit in a game you're playing like the subhuman mindbroken by dopamine you are. I didn't find out about this until I already beat the game after 80 hours so my experience wasn't tainted by this shit.

>>739243892
This.
The depths are the most boring area to explore in the entire game, I couldn't imagine not flying over it, hell I did not care to even try and tackle the place until I learned about the hover bike, I would have just not explored it period otherwise.

>>739257986
>>739257991
>>739258000
>>739258043

and again three in a row.
Eric, you really can't help yourself.

Actually that was 6 posts.

>>739258067
the bot can't count

>>739258121
>>739258102
>>739258064
Total Eric meltdown

He won, actually.

>>739258185
Yeah, I won. Eric got raped and lost ;)

I meant Eric won.

>>739258158
you are going to be in your deathbed thinking about eric, how many years have you been at this now?

>>739258235
>>739258245
Sounds like you lost and got raped ;)

>>739258320
Raped by whom? You?

>>739258391
Yes, and Nintendo ;)

>>739253918
>need to get somewhere?, build a hoverbike
>explore the depths?, build a hoverbike
>need to bring to cristal or another thing to a certain point? build a hoverbike and glue the thing to it
>place is to high?, build a hoverbike
>some retarded minigame or quest?, build a hoverbike
Sp you still do all of those thinhs, just using a bike. What's the issue?

>>739245607
You have to rotate one of the fans so it counters the other one and doesnt drift in one direction

>>739258158
Shut up, schizo.

>>739258508
not really an issue, just kind of lame that instead of trying to build different things with the myriad of parts you have people found optimized the system down to 3 parts, all of which are very common. when I played I avoided the hoverbike because I liked experimenting, even if most problems are "solved" by two fans and the cockpit.

>>739258856
You lost and got raped

>>739258985
Ironic coming from the schizo who thinks every post in this thread comes from one guy.
Sounds like this eric boogeyman you made up in you head fucked you real good if you can't stop thinking about him.

>>739259097
Eric, nobody is falling for that schizo pedophile cope.
nobody believes that multiple people were just sitting around not posting for hours just to start posting to seethe about me.

>>739259213
Tell me where the fuck I mentioned you here >>739258064 nigger? This was my first post in the thread.

Eric come pick up your boyfriend so he'll shut up already.

>>739243570
I never managed to make one who fly straight.

>>739259370
I accept your trannyscession, Eric.

>>739258904
I guess it's all preference in the end. I ended up figuring out the 2 fans and a stearing handle thing on my own while playing, and I never really wanted to do a bunch of experimenting with building. I'm happy to have a fast mode of transportation while I play Zelda, and never really feel the urge to use it when presented with a puzzle.

>>739259539
that's fair, I quite liked building little contraptions for things even if the sandbox was fairly limited. best quest in the game for me was getting logs for the coastal village. I built a big ol pick up truck and pretended to be a lumberjack for a few minutes. shame there was basically no other quest like it.

>>739259459
>u-u-uh i uh accept y-your c-concession
Whats the matter retard, realize you just cornered yourself with your nonsense narrative because you were mass replying to every post without any thought? Good. You can shut the fuck up now that you've thoroughly embarassed yourself.

>>739243570
It's the fact that you already explored the world in BOTW that kills your drive to explore.

>>739254776
wings can go pretty fast with 2 fans though, I think the short timer was intended to be a trade-off for the speed. I always used a wing with fans for my needs since I'd rather go fast than take several minutes going somewhere

>>739243570
I only used it by the end of the game where it just felt more practical than any of the other vehicles to find all the wells and blossom trees. Otherwise I tried to rely more on my own vehicle ideas.

>>739243570
The REAL problem, is that the game never forced the player to make anything more interesting. The skies should be dangerous. The player should need protection from attacks. Or greater speed to out-fly attackers. Or weapons to kill potential attacks. But it had none of that. Necessity is the mother of invention.

>>739243752
what is it? I never played the game

>>739259961
>>739260048
>>739261474
You lost and got raped.

>>739261482
TotK gives you the ability to build structures and vehicles using almost every resource you get through the game, and some of those resources are Zonai devices which serve different purposes, such as wings that let you glide through the sky, wheels, steering wheels and even water pumps. The hoverbike can be built using two of the most common devices, two fans and one steering wheel, and it's by far the most optimized and battery-efficient vehicle you can build, allowing you to travel pretty much everywhere you want. The issue is that the hoverbike is so damn good that it completely kills the sense of exploration that the first game had, it removes the need of having to manage your stamina while swimming or climbing and turns every single travel from point A to point B into a straight line. The only thing you have to worry about is your battery, which you can easily mine Zonaite to max it out.

>stealth retard thread

>>739243892
THIS. I spammed the hell out of this thing there.

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>>739261637
the anon gave a genuine game criticism and you had nothing to refute with. You're just here to shit up /v/

>>739243758
the challenge isn't beating the game, it's beating your time and scores.
if you play like a fucking coward, moving slowly, exploring everything, being careful with your encounters, you're already removing the whole challenge.

>>739253114
It's an action game, not a birdwatching simulator. Stuff like that is cool, but garnish means jack shit if the meal is bland and tasteless.

>>739243570
the game itself already accomplished that by providing nothing to find

>>739265779
>>739265574
>>739264737
Nice samefagging, Eric the pedophile.

>>739265906
Wrong again, Damien-kun...

>>739258508
Because what makes those all so interesting and engaging to do is the question of what you'd need to do in order to tackle them. When you know the answer each time is hoverbike, it takes the mystery and challenge out of them. You can still do it your own, different way, if you find that method to be fun in and of itself, but nothing can restore the intrigue, because you know what is THE real answer each time.

>>739243570
This actually ruined the game for me. I stopped running around the underworld. There was no more suspense. I could see things in the distance and just get there. I really regretted the bike.

>>739244479
>punctuation is le bad
laughing mao

>>739266350
>>739266573
>>739266606
Nice samefagging, Eric

>>739243570
TotK is an absolute disaster of managing costs, availability, and context surrounding game warping mechanics
Nothing this game does is better than just playing Bad Piggies after getting bored of BotW

>>739266784
Nice sametrannying, Eric

>>739266606
Traveling through the underworld is not fun at all. There are so many ravines you have to climb out again, without the hoverbike I wouldn't have bothered at all.

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ITT:
>I went on vacation to backpack across europe, but upon arrival someone told me the trains were fun so I just spend the whole trip on that
>0/10 europe is the ugliest place on the planet, literally just looks like the inside of a train.

>>739267848
Nice page 10 bump, Eric.

>>739267883
Awful fucking analogy that doesn't even match the point you're trying to make. Do better

>>739267883
Strange comparison since the bike isn't obstructing your view at all, it lets Link fly and makes the horse obsolete but that's it.
To explore the sky fully you need such an vehicle, it makes only sense to use it everywhere else afterwards.

>>739267958
just give it up retard, at least learn to count

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Exploring in Zelda becomes garbage when you realize all the rewards are fucking ass. Kinda like Elden Ring tbqh.

>>739243570
The crafting was jank anyway

>>739268176
>>739268031
>>739268185
>>739268214
Nice sametrannying, Eric

>>739243570
i thought the thumbnail was two little tanks touching barrels like they were frotting.

>>739245158
botw is a genuinely good game, totk is like someone took that game and covered it in a bunch of graffiti and said they were “improving” it
the machine crafting system they added was based on reddit updooted exploits of BOTW physics. imagine thinking redditors have any taste or know what should be added to your game

>>739268534
Nice sametrannying, Eric

>>739268638
not antranny since i detransitioned. checkmate

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>The best vehicle is the one you got in the previous game.

>>739268667
>>739269409
Nice sametrannying, Eric. And another page 10 bump, wow.