>kanto derangement syndrome
>>739246929KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I can't even play pokemon anymore, gameplay is far too simple and slow
>>739246929I don't care what a 12 year old on Twitter says.A shirt with pictures of a video game character should use a popular video game character. They aren't going to make a UNIQLO shirt featuring Stantler.
>make shirt with a cool dragon or cute mouse on it>it sells>make a shirt with some retarded narwhal-seal or goofy keychain on it>it doesn't sell
Very interesting thread OP! You would get much better mileage and discussion if you took it over to >>>/vp/ - Pokémon instead of /v/ though.
>>739247413no :)
>twitter screencap>three words
>>739247453Based
>>739246929Imagine being 50 years old and still talking about Pokemon and Harry Potter because you know NOTHING else.
>>739247724Pokemon Harry Potter Star Wars MarvelThe four horsemen of normoidslop
>>739246929You say you want new characters on merchandise, but will you buy merch of Klefki?
>>739247838>normoidyou're a retard, is called Normalfag, but it was changed to Normie because normalfags don't like the bad word "Fag"
>>739247934Shut the fuck up normoid
>>739247924keyed design
>>739247969nigger faggot
>>739247969Shut up normalfag
>>739247934Hippies were saying "normies" in the 1960s Anon. Beatniks said it in the 1950s. "Normalfag" is a creation of late 00s/early 10s 4chan.
>>739247924Did they ever release an actual keyring with Klefki's design? It feels like the most obvious merchandise tie-in opportunity, so clearly TPC must've not done it.
>>739247924I would buy a Klefki keychain
>>739247924A keychain klefki would BTFO the kantomon retards any day. Fuck of with your posturing. You heard the argument of >an icecream>a keychain>Jeez what would they think of nextAnd went with it. It was a tired argument 2 decades ago and its as tired today. Thematic new mons merch would shit all over the rat tshirt and the CHARIZAAAAAARD garbage. I'm tired of retarded genwunners claiming it sells because of popularity. A stantler mantlepiece would be a nice decoration. If i can come up with cool thematic merch for mons so can TPC, they just don't want to because they are creatively bankrupt...actually they can't be bankrupt because they were never profitable thematically
>>739246929Nintendo makes merch with Pokemon that people will buy merch of on it. It's not Nintendo's fault that nobody likes the shitty new Pokemon designs and wont buy merch with them on it.
>>739246929Charizard is popular, so it's obviously going to sell.But it's the exact same drawing of Charizard from 30 years ago. They couldn't come up with something original?
>>739248474You can't improve perfection.
>>739247924Wtf those are my car keys
They're the main characters. Nobody cares about Zigzagoon or Rowlet or Grookey or whoever you grew up with. We don't need to pretend all Pokemon generations are equal. Some Pokemon matter more than others. These guys will always be more important than the others
>>739248474the new artists are dogshit
>>739248519There's better poses they could put him in.
>>739248549In reality, it's just the Charmander line. Only the weird kids actually liked Venusaur.
>>739248626No. This is absolutely soulless.
>>739246929this looks like a shirt i could have got in the 90s along with a bart simpsons dont have a cow poster
>>739247386I feel like weed cat shirts would sell well
>>739246929Kanto and Johto is where all the souls at.
bet this nigga doesnt complain about lucario
>>739246929it's a franchise for autistic kids, of course they'll keep doing the same thing. that's what's expected and wanted from them.
>>739248754they do. hello kitty smoking pot to girls is like betty boop sucking cock to boys.
>>739248713You're saying this in defense of a white t-shirt that has clip art, a logo, and nothing else.
>>739248802milk
>>739247386I had a Dewdong keychain and it was cute.
>>739248892Gen 1 and prerelease gen 2 were great because every random Pokemon had some merch.
>>739248549Plus Rattata, Pidgey and Geodude, MAYBE Zubat.
Sorry, they don't put this faggot bird instead of a real Pokemon like Charizard. They're trying to sell t-shirts and make money.
>>739248679Kids went to the store in the mid 90s to buy "a Pokemon game" and they were presented with one with a dragon on the box and one with a turtle on the box. They went with the dragon.
>>739249006I went with blue (cool blue) turtle with cannons on its back (tank turtle, fucking invincible).
>>739246929>Calling Pokemon “mons”
chadizardchads based and winning
>>739248383That's cute, that's cute. You know the Sitting Plushies line, right? The one that aims to have all Pokemon as plushies? Can you guess which mons are permanent shelf guardians?>b-but ice cream of the ice cream mon would sell gangbusters...LOLLMAO EVEN
>>739247386My favourite Pokemon when I was a kid were Cubone and Kabutops.
>>739248474 I've fallen out of pokemon long ago like literally back in 2001 but seeing this original design lights up my retarded inner child nostalgia neurons
>>739246929>Same Five MonsSo, Charizard, Venasaur, Blastoise, Pikachu and Eevee?
>>739246929I love kanto because it reminds me of my childhood
>>739249379Charizard, Blastoise, Pikachu, Eevee, and Mewtwo.
>>739246929What's the issue, 99% of non autistic people can't recognize pokemons that aren't the first gen starters and pikachu.
Give my bugniggas some attention.
>>739249507Same
>>739249379>>739249549gengar
>>739246929>tfw haven't seen any croagunk merch in eons
>>739246929Maybe if they made good games again they wouldn't depend on the video game equivalent of Disney Adults as their cash-cow.
>>739249607Gamefreak made a bug that is perfect for shilling then forgot to shill it.
>Haunter is one of my favourite Pokemon>Gengar gets all the merch
>>739249607>tfw no Scyther merch
>>739249006I had pokemon blue, because Im not an absolute subhuman.
>>739250209Gengar is the perfect Pokémon.He’s essential to every trainer’s starting 6, with a versatile and unpredictable moveset. If he’s taken damage? Hypnosis —> Dream Eater will put your opponent to sleep, suck their HP, and replenish yours. With the right trainer, he can’t be killed. Not to mention he’s immune to normal, fighting, and ground-type moves, rendering even the strongest Pokémon like Machamp absolutely useless. Beyond his obvious tactical advantages, Gengar’s aesthetic is big and menacing, but at the same time, virtually nonexistent — a ghost with a grin. He’s dark purple, which represents luxury, power, wisdom, and… mystery.Gengar is shrouded in lore, rumored to be Clefable’s shadow. Nicknamed the “trickster entity,” his presence is marked by a sudden drop in temperature. He’s literally “chill af”Oh and the only way to get Gengar was with a link cable & a homie (through a trade). His evolution wasn’t possible through level-grinding, only kinship.Gengar is king
>>739247924I'd get a shirt with a klefki holding a key like a sword facing a dragon pokemon.
>>739246929>30th anniversary of the original game>crying the original game's Pokemon are represented
>>739250317>—
>>739249709>Topping the new fave voteIs Gengar the shillmon that got a pass?>>739249830I remember seeing that merchandise dwarfs every other form of income Pokemon has. Though you would think they'd make sure the foundation everything else is based on is good.
>>739247143Doesn't help that GF fell behind the industry and can't produce acceptable games anymore.
>>739250209I agree. I like Haunter's design better. Gengar feels like it takes it the wrong direction.
>>739247724>Pokemon and Harry PotterPokemon genuinly has more mature themes and better writing than Harry potter.>because you know NOTHING else.My entire life has been a attempt to find something else only to end up back at Pokemon because things like Touhou are ass.
>>739250317
>>739247924>but will you buy merch of Klefki?As a keychain? Yeah.Would also buy a Tinkaton hammer or something based on the weapons of Ruin.
yeah they should print more shirts of instant classics like this shiti played the game and would still think it's a fakemon
>>739248679>Charmander lineIt's Charizard.Bulbasaur is the objective best starter and the best line. Even the Pokemon creators realized that.
>>739250531>and would still think it's a fakemonNeeds way more details for that.
>>739246929pokemon only lives on nostalgianobody cares about fridgemons
>>739250428>Pokemon genuinly has more mature themes and better writing than Harry potter>We need to solve this thing that'll be a problem in 1000 years now!
>>739248474>30th anniversary tie in uses original art from 30 years agoWow yeah why on earth did they do that, can none of you fucking retards read or what?
The 90's Pokemon fad was better than the next 25 years of the franchise. Sorry you missed it.
>>739247724it's normal to have affection for things you liked as a child. As long as you make a point of experiencing other things, it's fine to enjoy nostalgia from time to time.
>>739246929It's a plain white graphic tee with the logo and stock art of Charizard. Might as well figure out some sort of collage design that incorporates all 151 of them.
>>739246929Name 5 non kanto mons that are anywhere near kanto quality in design.
>>739249347I quite liked lickitung as a kid, but then they had to ruin it with the shitty evolution
>>739249757BDSP was that bad, not even worthy of a manga arc, but hey, at least we got PLA
>>739250317>immune to ground-type movesThis was only true from 2004 to 2013Gengar has spent way more years getting fucked by eq than he has not.Fucking game freak nerfing my ghostyboy.
>>739251009Define "Kanto quality", gen 1 had an evolution that was just the same mon 3 times.... twice.
>>739246929Wow op, next time link the tweet
>>739250317Gastly > Haunter > Gengar
>>739250317Nice EM dash you fucking AI faggot
Nobody wants to see your goonb8 monsters on your shirt.
>>739249607anon on the left and also anon on the right
>>739246929Fire breathing dragon will always be a 100/10 design.
Nu designs suck, but at least they're giving us fantastic coomer mons like Floragato.
>>739246929Why didn't they sell shirts like this 28 years ago? I would have asked my parents to boughted it. I guess the touchscreen toddler generation can enjoy it.
>>739251176I look like this and smirk like this.
>>739250317You can't get gengar without trading it. So this make him an insta shit unobtainable pokemon.
>>739246929These shirts aren't really intended for the "hardcore" fans as much as they're focused on those normie 90s kids that lived during the height of Pokemania, this specific flavor of merch heavily appeals to their nostalgia because they probably only watched the anime and ate the pasta shaped like Gengar and Pikachu. The fact its also Kanto's 30th anniversary this year just means they're making more merch like this, but a metric fuckton of other Pokemon merch exists that isn't just Kanto if you actually look for it. Granted most of it is region locked to Japan, but still.Oh yeah and Shitter screencaps threads should be a bannable offense and all that, whatever its not like anyone cares anymore.
>>739246929I don't understand TCPi, they know better than anyone else how much Kanto pokémon sell, then why do newer pokemon have a design trend that goes on the opposite side of the spectrum?
>>739246929Company prints merch with their most recognizable characters because they make more money wow holy shit find a real issue kys op
>>739246929>NOOOOO WHY DO PEOPLE ONLY WANT TO BUY THE GOOD ONESSorry but the designs post-Kanto just aren't as visually appealing or iconic.
>>739250317But he doesn't have this sprite, so he's shit
>>739251667>Haunters gen 1 sprite Literally the Sistine Chapel of sprites
>>739250317I won a pokemon championship at the supermarket by being super lucky and Gengar missing his hypnosis, my turn Fire Blast, it leaves Gengar with 1 hp, burns him, next turn, he puts my Charizard to sleep with hypnosis, trying to dream eater but then faints to burn. I won the championship with my CHADrizard even though he wasn't optimal which proves that your team should be picked by your favorites, not the optimal strategy. I won a big pikachu pillow out of it.
>Literally a bull>Literally a seal>Literally a rat>Literally a guy>Literally sludge>The same pokemon three times>The same pokemon three time againSo this is the iconic peak of Pokemon...
>>739246929Fuck why is the mewtwo/mew shirt only in babby size
>>739252058meanwhile modern pokemon is just>literally the same bull from gen 1 but worse>literally the same rat from gen 1 but worse>literally the same sludge from gen 1 but worse
>>739249607
>Genwunners genuinely need to ignore like 90% of all Pokemon for their arguments
>>739246929is /vp/ down or something? fuck off with these threads
dude i love heatmor and simisear
>>739246929shortening "pokemon" to "mons" is really disgusting to me, for some reason.
dude i love scolipede and volcarona
>>739252465/vp/ does it constantly
>No merch with my cactus waifuGen 1 niggers keep ruining everything for everyone
KANTOOOOOOO
>>739252549i wouldn't survive there
what syndrome is it that prevents poketroons from using their containment board?
>>739252675Video game related discussion :)
>>739246929>hmm which shall we print>these new mons that only get us fleeting financial success amongst the newer generations>OR, the same 5 mons from the first two or three gens that guarantee us success?
>>739252617supply and demand anon, you are the only person on earth who would buy this meanwhile there are hundreds of thousands of pikachads and eeveestacies
>>739252880These "people" all have the wrong opinion
Charizard is the other face of pokemon besides pikachu deal w/ it
>>739252617I'm pretty sure everyone has at least something now thanks to Sitting Cuties
I boughted the Charizard shirt
>>739247724What stuff do you enjoy?
>>739252675The "there is no rule saying Pokemon discussion can only happen on /vp/" syndrome.
>>739252851Shit's lame. My favorite gen 1 pokemon is Oddish. I bought Red because I wanted Oddish.
>>739246929Pokemon probably has more fake fans than any franchise in history.Literally the tagline of the franchise is "gotta catch em all" and there's over 1000 Pokemon now. The whole point was always that there's variety so everybody can choose their favorite yet it's all the same Kanto nostalgia baiting over and over.
>>739246929It's funny that the history of pokemon is Gen 1 and 2 and they were lightning in a bottleThen they made Gen 3 that had shitmon that people hatedThen they made Gen 4 that had shitmon people hated and also the worst world that people hatedThen they started to get very desperate and make Gen 5 which is LITERALLY Gen 1 with the most linear world in the series, the worst story, and cheap rip offs of Gen 1 pokemon in a desperate attempt to get the Gen 1 audience back.Then we got Gen 6 which said fuck it, heres 470 pokemon, heres online trading, heres online battling, here's online social features and that workedThen Gen 7 came around and it for some reason it decided to ignore what led to success in Gen 6 by forcing shitmonThen Gen 8 came around and for some reason they decided to ignore what led to the success in Gen 6 by severely limiting what pokemon that you can use, but at least it had online battling, online trading, online PvEThen Gen 9 came around and they remembered the lesson from Gen 6 and said fuck it, here's 800 pokemon, heres online battling, heres online trading, here's online social features, heres the best online PvE content, here's that open world you beg over, here's better shiny hunting and that worked
>>739246929cause Kanto is all that normies know
>>739253275Name a single worthwhile Pokemon past gen 2.
KANTOOOOOOOOO
>>739253734Or in Gen 2 itself, that's why the game only gives you Kanto pokemon to use.
>>739249006Blue version actually outsold Red in North America
>>739253815Me like the popular color and me angry because the new games both use popular color.What do now?
>>739246929Pokemon in the west is seen as a nostalgia franchise for adults. You're allowed to like 90s Pokemon like Gengar or Charizard, But if you recognize more recent Pokemon like Tinkaton, you may as well admit to watching Bluey. Your peers will see you as a hopeless manchild and avoid talking to you.
>>739246929>STOP USING THE MOST POPULAR POKEMON OF ALL TIME AND FOREVER PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
>>739253886I think snom is the only newer gen pokemon I actually like.
>>739248835
>>739253926pikachubros.......
>>739249379Pikachu, Eevee, Charizard, Snorlax, Mewtwo
>>7392537341-5 epic wins6 meh7 ehm what the sigma??8 MARNIE MARNIE OH GOD I WANNA FUCK MARNIE FUCK FUCK FUCK OH SHITTT FUCK UUUUGGGUUUUUUUU9 *vine boom*
>>739246929That's what happens when you just make garbage for 15 years. People only care about the old.
>>739253926Where's my Scolipede merchandise and animated youtube films?
>>739253734Gardevoir
>>739250272Scyther and Nidoking deserve more merch than faggar
>>739248980They don't put this faggot bird in anything KEK
>>739253734Game Freak's biggest mistake. The starter that DETHRONED Charizard.
>>739250531This looks like a dog that’s about to be euthanized
>>739248474the OG art is what makes the shirt actually nice, nu-cancer would ruin it.
>>739254508It's actually dying as part of the plot in the shitty shovelware scarlet and violet games
>>739254381It's actually insane how they dexited this thing and then nerfed both of his abilities, Greninja was the most popular pokemon for like a decade and they completely fucked it over. TPC/Gamefreak might actually have been afraid of it being too popular.
>>739254362If I caught a female wearing that Azumarill sweater, Id capture her by force and give her stockholms syndrome in my basement.
>>739246929>Can't even come up with an actual critique, so they just spam the same thing three times like a lobotomized monkeyPathetic, as expected from a mongoloid who questions Charizard's reign.
>>739254570Can Battle Bond(ability) Greninja mega evolve? I can see some use in having it kill something low, get the boosts, then become this monster the next turn at +1 to all of its offensive stats and regaining Protean.
>>739253734Any pokemon that is meta
>>739254737Yeah, nothing saying it can't.
>>739254737Battle Bond Greninja can't be transferred to Champions yet so we don't know, I wouldn't be surprised if it can't mega evolve because it's technically a separate form removed from Regular Greninja entirely.
>>739255038They took away the Ash-Greninja transformation from Battle Bond Greninja, it just gets stat boosts now.
>>739255079I know they got rid of the transformation but it's still not really a normal Greninja in the code but another form, much like the Own Tempo Rockruff that evolve into Dusk Form Lycanroc.
>>739248837>iconic watercolor illustration from the 90svs>bland flat-colored promotional art that was probably only used on some advertisement for branded shoesSure!
>>739248474They quite literally cant make it any better, theyre too incompetent.
>>739248980I wish I was a fly on the whiteboard when this thing was being conceptualized. I honestly believe it was a genuine held-at-gunpoint-by-ethnically-ambiguous-blue-hairs attempt at trying to make a BBQ+ icon with the power of a starter slot.
>>739255220Has anybody transferred a Battle Bond Greninja to ZA using Pokemon Home to see if it can mega evolve? Even if it doesn't have the Battle Bond ability in ZA, it would still be marked as another form, right?
>>739253926I'm surprised Golisopod was actually made by modern Gamefreak.
>>739255534Oh look, a bot post.
>>739250428>my entire life has been an attempt to find something else>goes for TouhouManchildren are hilarious
>>739247924No because Klefki is ass, but I also wouldn't buy merch for 99% of gen 1 Pokemon. That being said there are still plenty of new Pokemon I would buy merch of if they would produce it.
>>739253926Ain't no way that candle shit at number 4 is that popular. Or whoever that literally who at 21 is. Botted list.
>>739256084>Ain't no way that candle shit at number 4 is that popular.fuck you
Guys it's just like the original pokerap said>At least Charizard and more is all to see >to be a Charizard master is my destiny!
>>739247143and yet DQ gets away with worse, more boring shit
>>739256084no people really do genuinely love chandelure, the ones that fuck me up is zeraora, diancie and yveltal
>>739256197they stopped making those.
>>739256270oh look, a free ipad
>>739248802>it's a franchise for autistic kidsSo is Sonic The Hedgehog
Why are new Pokes so fruity?
>>739246929MAKE *CLAP* BETTER *CLAP* NEW *CLAP* MONS *CLAP* THAT *CLAP* AREN'T *CLAP* FURRY-BAIT
>>739256084name one flaw in this design without the "muh object" cope
>>739256270Turn off your bot.
>>739256543YOU*FART*ARE*FART*A*FART*NIGGER*FART*FAGGOT*NIGGER*FAGGOT*NIGGER*FAGGOT
>>739256630see >>739255758
>>739256630>point a flaw BUT DONT POINT THE FLAW
>>739256630maybe he has fans, but the FOURTH most popular Pokemon? I'm not buying it.
Digimon is cooler.
I kind of miss the era when they had no idea which Pokemon to even market and just threw things at the wall and hoped for the best.
>>739256630It needs some ghostly quality other than just the purple color.
>>739256831>I kind of miss the era when they had no idea which Pokemon to even market and just threw things at the wall and hoped for the best.This is what literally is today
>>739256831>6 dollar plushI miss the 90s
>>739248474Yeah, they should have used crappy digital art instead. What we got is actually kino.
>>739256750>copes aggressively
>739256850You don't deserve any more (You)s. Bye.
>>739253982Wow, someone actually put my favorite pokemon on a list for once.
>>739256914the sentient lamp part is supposed to be ghostly
>>739256806It is. It's a fighter in Pokken, has appeared in every game since they started the dexcut (expect Arceus), got a Mega and merch of it sells very well.
the list is bullshit. go on any site and they don't have any merch for any of those top 20 pokes outside of Charizard and like Lucario. if they're so popular, where's the merch? made up poll.
>>739256630It's conceptually the same thing as Rotom but redone. The Pokemon already exists
Lemme guess:>Charizard>Pikachu>Eevee>Gengar>MewtwoDid I get them right? Bulbasaur/Venusaur, Charmander and Squirtle/Blastoise should be up there but I can only guess 5 kanto favorites.
>>739246929>Charizard gets his own thing>The other two only get in if they're tagging along with himReally funny how often this happens. The whole "choose your favorite" thing really broke down over the years.
>>739246929IDK, I am nostalgic for the old pokemon aesthetics, but I also feel pretty done with the franchise. There is nothing more to explore and I feel like it is best to leave it in the past. Honestly, they should have made 1 of the 2 games they release each time more difficult, but they see themselves as competing with smartphones, so the games are easier than ever.
HEY MAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO DRIVEIT FEELS MORE LIKE I'M TRYING TO STAY ALIVETHE ONLY THING YOU'RE DRIVING IS DRIVING ME CRAZYYYYYYYAND I'M GETTING ROAD RAGE
>>739257086You could have just as easily had a sentient chandelier Pokemon that was colored red instead and make it fire/steel and no one would've thought anything of it. A standard object colored different doesn't make something feel like a ghost.
>>739246929We’re still doing the late 90s nostalgia for a little while.
I miss when Poliwhirl was a Kanto mascot staple.
>>739248474This is iconic.>>739248626This is a recreation. You can say they're both depictions of the same character, but one has a personality that the other simply lacks.
>>739246929thats a your favorite martian song lyric lol
>>739248784Im an ultra casual pokemom enjoyed but I remember lucario being really popular about 15 years ago, or something, what happened to him?Is he still popular?
>>739250406This. Pokémon used to be pretty ahead of its time for a handheld rpg, with 100+ different characters you could form a party with. I tried playing a little bit of ZA when my girlfriend bought it and it was too mindless for me to get through the half hour (or longer, not sure) tutorial. I feel like I would have been on my 2nd gym in the old games while I was still being dragged around the city like a retard in ZA. It hasn’t just stagnated, it has regressed.
>>739257243Sorry bro, you forgot Snorlax >>739257258
>>739257628very
>>739251564in DPPt, if you had one of the GBA games in the bottom slot of your DS, you could catch wild Gengars
>>739250317>jobs to psychic
>>739257921It changed on some routes depending on which game was in the cart
>>739246929Fuck, i want that shirt!
Yeah! Enough with Charizard! Where's my Stantler shirt!
>>739247924No but I would buy all the Litwick/Chandelure merch.
>>739247924Klefki is cool and one of the very few good designs in gen 6
>>739248161>normalfags were saying normie since the 50syes that's why we say normalfag and not normie
>>739247386The element monkeys sell and be sure to check where they scale on the populaity list.
>>739250531they could recreate the entire dogs playing poker line of paintings and print them on shirts/posters with the various dog pokemon
>>739256084Dont talk shit about my pokken main.
>>739246929So which are these same mons? Go ahead and tell us.
>>739259487>my mom's reindeer.
>>739246929Unironacally Ive noticed zoomers/redditors seem to be really filtered by the idea that popular things get more attention than unpopular things.Pretty much every single game series they will have a melty crying that some hot chick will get more art and merchandise than ugly ones
>>739250531That's just a cartoon dog?
>>739246929Let me guess...>Charizard>Pikachu>Mewtwo>Bulbasaur (because of the meme)>Eevee
new pokemon shirt idea:juliana spreading her ass
>>739257628lucario gets shoved into fucking literally everything, even more than charizard toothe people who complain about charizard are fine with that though
The fuck is a kanto
>>739261203The only region in Pokémon that matters
I am a KANTOOOfag, but for me it's Ninetales.
>>739253926I don't play these games anymore since my teen years but Metagross was always one of the coolest designs to me. Gen 3 I feel like was a massive step up in the designs from gen 2 which I feel was the weak mons originally meant for gen 1 but were cut because the designs were in fact weaker. One scrapped design that became lamer was Octilery. It used to look like a tank at first until they went with a much more boring design.
>>739261292That's Hoenn
>>739261316>The region that killed PokemaniaNah. The only good thing that came out of that gen was FRLG.
>>739246929>No Blastoise versionSigh...
>>739248980Why's it gotta have toes like that?
>>739256197>DQ out of nowhereDQ derangement syndrome. DQ11's one of the greatest RPGs of all time.Best thing about Pokémon is the brand. Their games have always been mediocre.
>>739251667This fucker was so cool
>Have criticism of <thing>>uhm, <thing derangement syndrome> much?
>>739254381wtf is that
>>739247924If they ever set a pokemon game in a Great Britain equivalent he should get a regional form that's rusty/darker colored with all the modern keys replaced with more medieval style ones
>>739261316lol the region introduced at the start of the series decline is the best? absolute retard
>>739261316please that Wingull and Zigzagoon infested slop of a region does not matter.
>>739261365Blastoise is pretty gay. He's a singular type when he could have been part steel but too bad that type did not exist until the next generation. He also has two gay cannons rather than a singular turret on a tank like cannon that looks much better like with his mega evolution. Although the mega design does have those two stupid shell blasters for arms which looks crap. Blastoise is just uncool.
>>739261726>If they ever set a pokemon game in a Great Britain equivalent They did.>he should get a regional form that's rusty/darker colored with all the modern keys replaced with more medieval style onesThey did not.
>>739256084Fuck you, Chandelure is cool and cute!Tatsugiri i can understand though
i don't know more thsn 5 pokemons thoughpikachured dragonthat cool fighting beetlesrone snakeforgot the fifth
>>739261932>They didThey should do it again and put my idea in
>>739262128The first time around is the worst mainline Pokemon game to date, I'd rather they didn't.
>>739248626>flat colors>no details>lengthened neck and thinner tail for no reason >boring uniform curve tool linesI implore you to compare both designs closely for longer than 15 seconds before posting.
>>739262128They won't. Pokemon games, despite being completely phoned in the past few games at least, will still sell like crazy to kids and manchildren they don't need to do shit anymore except pump out new slop every year or two
Red and Blue are legitimately broken and poorly designed for a RPGMy fellow old fucks are too fucking gay and retarded to see past their childhood love for the series
>>739255758Mewtwo would look just as out of place to be fair, as would Dragonite, or Gyarados or any number of other pokemon
>>739248161Newfag.
>>739261129do people not like poliwhirl?
>>739262264Not really.
>>739262432Well is it top 5 most popular? I know it was originally meant to be the mascot for Pokemon but I'm not sure how popular it is today or really ever was.
>>739262298Because Mewtwo is a man made pokemon developed to be a fucking weapon so he looks like some weird alien shit?I'm not into pokemon but fuck, almost everyone knows this.
>>739255758>See? I put this pokemon in an environment that wasn't designed around it! See how much it stands out?!No shit, retard. Mons like muk, magneton or tentacruel would look just as out of place in a farm field. Try again.
>>739262606That's why I gave other examplesDon't get me wrong, I'm not trying to defend that things design, looks like a fucking kingdom hearts enemy, its just a bunch of pokemon don't look like they belong on a ranch
>>739246929>the referenceI haven't thought of yourfavoritemartian since the 2010s.
>>739250367>Though you would think they'd make sure the foundation everything else is based on is good.Yeah, that's exactly what they do.
>>739246929It's not derangement, it's the literal truth. TPC genuinely does not produce easily obtainable merch that features anything but Pikachu and the three Kanto starters.
>>739246929Well I would like a Raichu, Ninetails, Lapras or Pigeot merch but they don't care besides the usual Kanto Suspects.
>>739251667
>>739246929>anniversary shirt celebrating the anniversary of their franchise uses art from the start of their franchise to celebrate their anniversarysomehow people have a problem with this?
>>739262853He had a brief resurgence a few years ago. I liked that Uno song he made.
>>739262264I don't think you can have played any other GB era RPGs are honestly have that opinion. Pokemon features an easily customizable party of six party members that can be any combination of 151 monsters that have unique skills and resistances. It features a mostly linear storyline with several large chunks of areas that can be visited in lots of different orders based on when you decide to get badges or battle Team Rocket. It features an in-game encyclopedia of the monsters you can find, lets you trade and battle other players, has a post-game dungeon with a strong monster, has several rare one-of-a-kind monsters, and connects to the N64 Stadium game so you can use your team for that as well.The gen 1 games are incredibly solid games.
I just think they're neat.
>>739261060They've been taught that anything that is attractive is badAnd also that crying as adults will get them what they want
>>739248980Ok seriously though, what the fuck were they thinking with this one???
>>739248474>hand-drawn>watercolorA lost art in the 2026 vydia industry. The "artists" are lost without their tablet nowadays.
>>739259764The problem with gen 6 isn't the designs. Most of them are good
>>739263023Also 'plume. It's neat too.
>>739252312i would buy that no hesitation
>>739256806It was introduced over a decade ago, anon. Kids who grew up with it are old enough to show how much they love it.
Let's be honest, who would buy a klefki t shirt?
>>739256197There have been 3 poogeymanz generations since the last DQ released. And it was a great game.
>>739263003Shit balance, like atrociously shit balance. Half the mechanics don't work properlyType distribution is fucking abysmal. So is attack diversity. Enemy AI is extremely simple and very stupid.They're bad rpgs
>>739263428You're exaggerating.
>>739253926>Banette made the listReally? Is he really popular in Japan or something because I never hear people mention him.
>>739253926What the fuck is this list? No fucking WAY the chandelier and caterpillar are at the top of the list but someone like gengar doesn't break the top 10. Also I refuse to believe that pikachu would ever not be represented in the top 25 at least from just random survey participants being like "uhhhhh idk pikachu i guess"
>>739256986>arrests angerly
>>739246929>no the most popular pokemon are the most common in merch how could this be
Galar was just one giant humiliation ritualDidn't even get its own anime in favor of Kanto
My favorite Pokemon is Parasect. They somehow have a plush of him.
>>739263604People love to hate franchise pets anon.
>>739263604Anon, it's been over 15 years since the chandelier and caterpillar were made.
>>739261567NTA, but dragon question was good for the first 3 games and then after that has really outstayed its welcome as a series doing the exact same shit ever since.>inb4 Pokemon does that to!I agree, both series became boring.
What are the implications of this 'dex entry
>>739263604the chandelier and horse bug are excellent designs.
>>739263936begone, tasteless mobilenigger
>>739264082Pokehumans are very dumb.
>>739246929they only release products for financebros now>>739250406thats the japanese game industry in general
>>739246929its only only charizard got the full T for the starters kek. why not blastoise and venosaur?
Mareep bros.... surely our time will come
>>739262264and what's a good Pokemon game? water water water hoenn? Saving....saving...OH MY GOD STILL SAVING...Sinnoh? Red and Blue is better than that slop.
>>739264240We have already went through this. Charizard is cool. Blastoise and Penisaur are gay.
>>739247986locked
>>739248474The whole point is it's pandering on when Pokemon was "good". They see nu-art and see an emasculated version of the "badass fire dragon" from their childhood.
>>739256947No at this point they have predetermined shillmons mapped out before the game is even announced and years of merch pushing them already in productionAnd then some shitmon they didn't even know existed becomes a meme instead while everyone hates the one they've already preemptively invested in so they have to change everything on the fly
>>739264461I know that, but its still silly. and aside from charizard, only gengar also got a "full Tee" pickachu and snorlax have small ass sprites....hoping small or medium will be avail in store
>>739247924So, it evolve as camouflage for millions of years, in an land where there's a bunch of car key chains on the ground?
>>739264569This is only really true for the starters, with everyone else they just have to guess who ends up being uber-popular and hope their projects aren't far along enough that they can pivot accordingly.Had they more time for Legends: Z-A and its DLC, I guarantee you they would have made Mega Tinkaton since it wound up as one of THE most popular Gen 9 mons.
>>739248474I barely ever see this print anymore
>>739253275Well /v/ can you pass the Pokemon Quiz?
>>739262264its really neither broken nor poorly designed.
>>7392539268 is there for a weird sex reason right?
Is the least liked mon still the unova fire monke? I see that one poll has the meme sushi fish.
>>739253926>No Vespiquen.>No Pinsir.>No Heracross.>No Scyther.>No Beedrill.>No spinarak.Shit list
>>739256208Zeraora is about popular as Lucario in Japan, Diancie always has been a very popular Pokémon worldwide despite being basically impossible to obtain outside Z-A. Box legends are always popular so no surprise that Yveltal is there too.
>>739253275That tagline was dropped when gen 3 came around since it wasn't possible to catch all of the mythicals if you were a new fan.
>>739263767There's a plush of every single Pokemon from gen 1-7At a certain point they said fuck it, here's everyone
>>739263936>for the first 3 gamesconsider suicide
>>739264592The other two just did not end up having designs as iconic as Charizard. Venasaur is a giant ugly ass plant frog far removed from his cute small frog baby design of Bulbasaur and Blastoise loses that fluffly tail and ear wings for some reason. It also looks obese with flaccid shoulder cannons. I always find Blastoise alternative non-official art to look much cooler than the real thing. As for Venasaur I don't think there is really any saving that thing. Its not even that its bad necessarily as a design. Its just that its an ugly unmarketable monster kek. But bulbasaur is a very loveable cute design.
>>739265291>he also looks obeseHe weights as much as an American woman.
>>739265291I dont see how venusaur and blastoise are any less iconic. charizard is by far the most generic one, which is probably the actual reason why its popular.
>>739265291>pokemonster hunterthe crossover too based to exist...
>>739265414kek great post anon you got a laugh out of me with that one
>>739265507>charizard is by far the most generic oneYeah its a simple looking fire dragon. Its cool. Look at how much cooler Blastoise would look as a robot with arm blasters that are actually inside of his arm rather than separated on his shell gloves or whatever you call them with the mega design.
>>739253734I consider Tyrantrum an honorary gen 1 Pokemon.
>>739265962jesus christ
>>739247934I like normgroid
>>739246929>xitter meltie thread
>>739265962Nothing Venusaur or Blastoise could've done would've made them cooler than Charizard. "Fire dragon" is the quintessential baseline for uncomplicated coolness, it doesn't take anything to comprehend other than knowing what a dragon is, which you likely do by default due to how many forms of media worldwide feature or depict dragons.
I want merch of this little nigga
People who say "mons" are all faggots
>>739265592And as I said his design looks much cooler like that. I would bet if they somehow got him to look more like that he'd be liked just a bit more at the very least. You ever notice how in the official art like pic related his cannons don't even seem to be placed as they should be? They are down towards his arms. Shouldn't they be higher up like actual almost shoulder cannons? I am looking at a Digimon like design for it and it looks way better. I will post it next.
>>739249709>anagram for neggarwtf??
>>739266181just google a better drawing lol
>>739253926relevant listhttps://e621.net/forum_topics/33499
>>739266093>Nothing Venusaur or Blastoise could've done would've made them cooler than Charizard.This was the Digimon like design I had mentioned. It certainly would have went a long way to making Blastoise look like a much cooler mon at least if it looked closer to this.
>>739266280How the FUCK does Umbreon have 2.5x the pron of Espeon.
>>739265014it got a mega and people still don't care about it, when even Chikorita is making a comeback. Emboar is never making it out of the 'hood
>>739261854Dual wielded shoulder cannons is way cooler aesthetically than a weird looking turret in the middle.
>>739266280I simply don't find lucario that attractive>>739266445its crossed into being the Goth of the eeveelutions, huge buff.
>>739266434eh.
>>739266278That is the thing though anon his drawings can look very inconsistent while Charizard's does not. Well it was a nice conversation but I think the point is clear. I always liked Lapras and Gyarados way more than Blastoise and both are gen 1 mons. In fact maybe they should have just swapped Blastoise as the final evo starter and just made it Lapras and of course give it two previous forms. Plus it could have gotten a water/ice typing and back in that gen Lapras was one of the best pokemon.
>>739266445Furfags absolutely love Umbreon. I think it's considered the most masculine eeveelution, and furries are overwhelmingly faggots. Plus the dark theme with glowy bits appeals to the edgy ones.
>>739266597>I think the point is clearNot really.
>>739266530Are they always shoulder cannons though? See >>739266181
umbreon (male) being sexually bullied by espeon (male)
>>739266597Literally any retard here can make a bad drawing of Charizard and say "see he's a bad design!" So not only is your point not clear, it's also retarded.
>>739266560>longer stronger looking arms with bigger claws>bigger cannons that look like they can fuck shit up and they are more properly mounted on its shoulders>meaner looking face>doesn't look like a total lard ass fattyI rest my case
>>739266798eh.
>>739247386I would KILL for a Slakoth rug.
>>739252617Got a hat some time back, but it's rough loving obscure 'mon
>>739266445Girls with eevee OCs add to it. Even if gay/bi guys make up a fuckton of furries, there's also a lot of girls who draw the art
>>739247386>>739247251>>739247143>>739246929Pokemon peaked with Gen 1 designs. Future scrimblos just do not have the same impact. It's like digimon, monster rancher, dragon Quest, yugioh, etc. They all peaked with the classic designs.So it feels GOOD being a Gen 1 KING.
>>739250428This us your brain on RPGkikery
>>739256950I have them all, they're really small. like 3, 4 inches. Also not a lot of fluff inside. They're still cute though
>>739248161Being performative doesn't care about time. Hippies are peak NPC nigger behavior
It's entirely a nostalgia thing. Recently replayed Emerald and everything past the 7th gym is complete rubbish from bland level design to shit for all encounters. It's a series meant for the subhuman autists and <70 IQ normgroid
>>739263117They were thinking about the free 20 million dollars for including DEI.
>>739267296>past the 7th gymso you enjoyed 80% of the game, sounds like a good score to me
>>739256806>4thChandelure IS the most popular Unovamon.
>>739256806its like a pokemon version of the beauty and beast guys. its great.
>>739268776Was Unova pokemon really THAT bad?
>>739246929>Pikachu>Charizard>Eevee(?)Who're the other 2?
>>739246929CHARIZARD PIKACHU MEWTWO EEVEE PARASECT
>>739246929as a grown ass man who started with SV and filled the dex thus familiarizing myself with most of the mons across all gens...Inteleon is the objectively best starter
>>739270083half mushroomhalf crab no bullshit
>>739256084It has a mega evolution headlined by a decently popular girl in the newest mainline (yes ZA is mainline) game.A good chunk of the weirder picks on there are probably because of the newer game they're in with a mega, like Starmie, Scolipede, Excadrill, and Golisopod.
>>739253926>No LopunnySurprising, honestly.
>>739270174It's a cicada
>>739262662All of those could work just fine if it's a group of them with a small area tailored to them. A small swampy muddy area for the muks, a pond for tentacruels, the magnetons can fly over grass without extra stuff.
>>739246929I have Kanto fatigue.
>>>/vp/ dogshit
>>739247924I think klefki might be my least favorite pokemon, and I say this as someone who thinks the vanilluxe line is a solidly designed line
>>739266445It's not all necessarily porn
>>739270306The Magnetons would definitely still look out of place, as would Porygon or even Golem really, since it's a field and not a rocky landscape. Funny enough this is actually addressed in one of the games, in PLA, futuristic and extinct Pokemon (i.e. stuff they had to include like Porygon that would be out of place) only appear in time rifts that open for like 5 minutes and then vanish, with a few that are in suitable spots like a Magnezone flying high above a mountain since Magnezone is supposed to resemble a UFO. Even Scizor only appears in these rifts, since it's far in the past and the region's Scythers evolve into a different Pokemon that's Bug/Rock instead.
>>739247143same, I need to hold down space bar at 16x fameskip when grinding levels.
>>739255758put a mr mime there lmao
>>739270174The dex entries say it's 99% mushroom, actually>>739270273It's a cordyceps
