>use shitty $15 headphones for over a decade>rich gamer friend lends me one of his older pro-gamer ones ($300) so I can find out what I've been missing out on all these years>it literally sounds worse on top of being twice the weight/strain on my earsCan someone please explain this to me?How is this even physically possible? If I go outside right now and claim a 15-buck headphone is better than a 300 one then I will literally get called a lunatic.
The most expensive gamer headset is leagues worse than the cheapest open back sennheiser headphone
>>739265870I got the older version of the arctis prois the nova a bit of a downgrade?
do you have any concepts of the ideas of subjectivity or bias?
get some bose, nigga
>>739265870Never listened to either of these headphones myself but in my experience anything marketed as being for gamers is lower quality and you're paying extra for RGB lights
>>739265870GDP moment.
All headphones sound like shit, especially the gaymer ones. They are expensive mainly because consumers think expensive=better and nowadays people demand gimmicks like active noise canceling
>>739265870>pro-gamer ones ($300)Like 99% of anything "gaming" related when it comes to audio is usually trash. There's a reason why everyone in the know always recommends to get HEADPHONES and not a HEADSET.
>>739266095Explain further.
all the shit marketed towards gamer is bass boosted to shit since they know all you listen to is rap
>>739265870Those cheap Sony headphones are simply a nice piece of work. Purchased a pair when I started uni in 2011 and they lasted about 6 years before the left side hinge gave out. Even then, the audio was still working on that side.
>>739266030KOSS for me
always used wired headphones
>>739265870I had wired pair of these that I'd been using ever since I won them during the graduation party in highschool.They went to shit, and would only work if you bent the cord a certain way, so I bought the next number higher, the wireless ones.What a crock a shit, you can use them across the house, but unless you have an audio mixer it feels like you're listening to music through a tin can phone.Even with the mixer they still sound off, but I got used to them.Don't buy these fucking things.Thanks for reading my blog.
>not using thisenjoy your gamer dent retard
I wonder if there is a thing like neutral sound in game development.Most gaming gear is made so it amplified bass or treble over more accurate sound. That is because objectively having that "rumble" typical of v-shaped headphones is more fun than having a balanced flat sound signature, especially in games with lots of sound effects like explosions and so on.
>>739265870I compared both of them and this seemed a little shocking.I'm no audio expert though.>>739267002Every time mine failed I just bought the exact same one again. The only reason they even failed is because I used to accidentally yank it off my head too often.
>>739265870You need to plug it into an audio interface that isnt your shitty integrated motherboard ports
>>739265870Just buy some HD 600 Ive had mine for like 15 years
>>739267406boosted treble is a competitive FPS thing, so they can hear footsteps over the gunfire.
I replaced my headphone covers for the first time in 10 years recently.There was a literal decades worth of earwax and shit behind it and suffused within the earpad material.I hand laundered the old pads for shits and giggles and the water literally turned black as I handwashed them. It took almost 40 minutes of repeatedly washing and wringing them until they became hygienic again
>>739267431>wireless
Oh boy is this the weekly sennheiser shill thread where people tell you to buy 300+ bucks headphones?
>>739267550goddamn I love Marie
>>739265870Wait till you buy kilobuck headphones like me and have to return them because they have 3 db of channel imbalance ayoThe audiophile industry is gangrened by complacent fools who heed the false shepherd reviewers' word and who denounce neither them or the lying manufacturers(0.5db promised balance suddenly turns to at least 1.5 to 3 depending on models IME) that often have poor after sales support making obtaining earpads and headbands more difficult than it should be on purposeSeems some IEM brands have good quality but IEMs are unusable over long periods(ear pain, sore ear canal skin)The cheap Sony headphones tend to have shit tier ear pads however, you should consider changing your headphones if you really have been using ZX110s for over a decade
>>739267431>>739267613I plugged the little black box that comes with it directly into my PC (USB), then the Nova connects wirelessly to the box, my friend said that this headset has the best sound quality when you use it wireless, but I still find that hard to believe.The headset is also supposed to be able to go wired, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Should I connect the headset to that box with a wire (audio/usb)...?
>>739267619If Sennies are too expensive for your broke ass then you can always get some audiotechnicas
I can tell that the moment I switched to quality headphones I heard sounds that I previously hadn't even realized are in the game at all.
>>739267406Human hearing is more sensitive to mids. The typical V or U shaped curve is literally what "neutral" sounds like
>>739267749How much do you get paid to shill them here on /v/? actually curious about this
Best headphone i've ever used was a cheap one i bought at a department store in 2010. Too bad it didn't last long. I've bought expensive ones too but i feel like the industry regressed. They don't make em as good anymore.
>>739266962V shaped with a 10db bass/subbass boost is ok, it helps when using at non ear rape volumes
i'm pretty sure my mdr v6s are counterfeit but i don't know if truly flat studio headphones just sound that way
>>739267745ask ai you fucktard
>>739265870How are they supposed to sell you another pair if they don't sound audibly off? You can fix the sound with more expensive mods, equalizer tweaks that never sound quite right, and other bullshit that you get tired of setting up, so they can sell you another pair again.>>739266030Yup. Not just gamer, a majority of the dogshit bluetooth buds and cans on the market today too
>>739267406It would be something like an etymotic ER2SE or sennheiser HD 6 series but with a slight bass boost to make it less recededthat would make it closest to actually being there in the game world, but most people prefer vshaped or speaker emulating(effectively more bass and less treble compared to dead flat)
>>739267745The important moment for good headphones is the conversion from digital to analog. Likely the "little black box" is supposed to handle that, but if you use wireless, a module in the headphones has to do it. This could mean worse results, audio needs room.
>>739268046v6 isn't flat. they've got a bass boost and a weird dip in the mids.
>>739267619The HD598 do the job for me. For like 7+ years now I think. I think 150 bucks is a nice sweetspot. I wont shill their audio profile, you do you in that regard but the airyness and lightweightness of them that u dont even notice wearing them is a big plus for me.
>>739268049Sometimes its neurons won't fire the same direction twice its like a human almost except we are monkeys playing with words on a planet filled with rocks and trees and we roleplay to play pretend with other female monkeys and listen to monkey music which we aren't still sure why monkeys make good music and monkey movies, monkey television, monkey shootings, but,
>>739265870get koss porta pro desu
They simply work.
recommend me headphones right now.
>>739268049Why ask AI when my /v/ frens are all right here?
get these, you're missing out for 180usd or less these are insane. No fuck your friend he is a retard for buying overpriced shit>>739268553you too
>>739268553HD 600
>>739265870is have the pro elites --they shit on every other model on the market.dont believe poor gypsy narratives.
>>739268553https://www.beyerdynamic.com.au/products/dt-990-pro-250Get a different ohm-age based on usecase, you can also go down to the 770s if you want cheaper and similar sound. Another anon recommended these headphone to me a long time ago and they're still going strong 5 years later and they're one of the best sounding headphones I've used.
>my shitty old Temu headphones are actually better than expensive headphones!Yeah yeah. If that's what indians like you believe.
>>739268553Oneodio Studio 10Best chink shit on the market right now
>>739268156well mine sound tinny as shit and really just "bad", my old mdr v400s sounded way better and those were $30 when the twin towers were still up. almost no bass at all in my v6 actually
What's a good pair of headphones for someone not looking to spend 200+?
Are my 2.4ghz wireless headphones frying my brain?
>>739268767no you've always been retarded, my son
>>739268553The most general/global advice I can give concerning ear comfortability is that there is no true difference and bias towards either on-ear or over-ear, it almost completely depends on your own ears.
>>739265870>silence soi headphone uservs>max volume gigachad speaker user
>>739268726>>739268519you might need to get an extension tho, since the porta pros arent really built for PC tower use.
>>739268707>>my shitty old Temu headphones
>>739268714sounds like you broke them.
>>739268857This is literally what's going on in this thread, starting from OP.
>>739268835Based but I'm not an asshole that wants to wake his neighbors 3am in the morning.
>>739268902>sony mdr>temu headphonesWhatever you say anon.
>>739268835Based if you've built your room to be acoustically optimized with the proper sound deadening material, retarded otherwise.
>>739269021nta, but how can I deaden the sound in the my room? Preferably with the sound deadening going both ways.
>>739269115are you into eggs?
>>739269192I can be
>>739269021Inb4 walls plastered with egg carton and ugly as shit.
>>739269115sound deadening isn't soundproofing, anon is talking about reducing unwanted echoeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp56A6TcL1E
I want anons' opinions on IEM (in ear monitors)I did research for headphones for a few weeks and it seems going for over head headphones in 2026 is redundant when you can just order a sub 100 buck chink fi IEM and get sound isolation + better sound quality than flagship sound isolation headphones without disadvantages like screwing glass wearers, screwing people living in hot places, screwing people without expensive DAC/AMP, giving you tyler1 headdent, hurting your ears etc (unless you get one of those overpriced big iems with 15 drivers). It sounds like everything I can ask for. Bonus: Seems like it's the choice of tryhard gamers for free wallhacks not to imply it's bad for music listening.The only two downsides I can think of are:-Unusable for people with bad ear hygiene-You like throwing your headphones around which will break IEM instantlyHow can anything else compete?
>>739266069I had the OG Arctis 7 and those had built in chatmix on board the hardware itself, which the "Nova Pro Wireless" does not have unless you have some gay software.
>>739269550"sound isolation headphones" aren't flagship.most high-end headphones are completely open back, even, for a more airy and natural sound.
>>739269550Wew did you really research? How come you didn't mention soundstage? What about headphone bass/treble compared to an IEM? Head dents? Do you really believe this crap?
>vmoda m100 + vmoda boom micI miss this company like you wouldn't believe
>>739269550IEMs are not comfortable, period. I refuse to believe niggas who act like headphones are painful and sweaty to wear compared to IEMs. I've owned most of the popular meme sets and I use them anyway mainly for isolation and the fact that they just sound better than headphones
>>739265870I fell for the meme and bought an expensive pair once. Never again. I could barely tell the difference between my 50 dollaridoo headphones.
>>739269775pretty good mic.modded 3.5mm sockets into my other headphones so i could keep using it.
>>739265870i bought audio technica avc 400 and i hate them very uncomfortable i think i need to get different ear pads for them i should have just gotten another pair of their m40x i had those before and they were fine to wear for long sessions
>>739267550Please, don't post her, is still too early for that kind of stuff on my current time zone
>>739269734>Head dents? Do you really believe this crap?No, I was exaggerating in bad faith (even though I know difference between gamer marketed headsets and studio reference headphones) but I still had to bring it up because it's so funny
>>739265870>memes into getting a pair of these>they hurt my fucking ears from the top and make me feel nauseous after taking them offwtf how do people build tolerance for these even when changing the ear pads?
>>739270158lmao he got the weeb cans
>>739270158Those are actual, flat as hell studio headphones, who trolled you into buying them?
>>739270326chihaya
>>739266030>sennheiserHow come you fanboys get a free pass? Sonyfags get shit on all the time but nooo shitheiser germoids are ok
>>739270326Also, now that you've got them. Get a few thick books and put your pairs around them, leave them there for a day or two until they stretch
>>739265870>Can someone please explain this to me?could be a myriad of reasons. bad fit, worn out pads, personal sound preference/bad eq, cope on both sides (you're just jelly so you tell yourself it's not that good or he's coping because he paid that much for it).you dont need to justify either side, the best tool for the job is the one you have that works.
>>739270430did that already they fucking come together like the elasticity on your XL underwear.
>>739270402HD 600 privilege they get a pass
>>739266551every single american i have played with has a dogshit microphone and when you tell them its horrible to listen to they say >what do you mean this headset cost me 60 bucks at wallmart
>>739265870If you've been listening to an absolutely fucked soundscape for a long time your brain needs about a week to re-learn how to hear through the new headphones.
>>739270558Well yeah, that's how noise cancelling was done back in the day.
>>739265870Stop posting stuff i have.First was the keyboard, now the headphones
>>739270605Are HD 600 actually liked or is it a meme
>>739270773next, your house
>>739270778snapheiser is always a meme.
>>739270806AIEE
>>739270402I imagine the HD600 was mindblowing in like 1998. They had a good run until they got btfo by chinkshit and bluetooth, noise cancelling, dsp, etc. Unfortunately snapheiser boomers can't move on
>>739265870problem is he gave you shitty gaming headphones when he should have showed you actual studio quality headphones made for audiophiles.
Can /hpg/ leave please.
>>739270778They have been around 29 years and they are stil selling and making em its a bit of both
studio headphones are not for media consumption. only fucking retards like >>739270158 fall for that shit.
Had a pair of KOSS cans that lasted me well over a decade. They don't kid about that lifetime warranty you send them in they'll fix them and send them back.
They hate HD 600 because it solved headphones
>>739270158Stretching out the band helps, I work as an audio technichian so its my literal day job to wear them, but yeah they'll hurt like hell at first. I haven't used picrel a whole helluva lot for games (only playing some HL2 while at work once). But they have a really good audio range and are so light weight and comfy I don't even notice them on my head. I've sat for nearly 7hrs straight editing with them on and I really like them.
>>739265870Did you actually have the hardware to support the expensive headphones? You can't just plug them in and expect them to work. There is such a thing as diminishing returns however, and 300 won't sound much different from 100~ or so.
>>739265870Fuck it, might as well ask here. I need a new set of headphones and I have no idea where to start. Price isn't necessarily a huge issue but I'm not a huge audiofag either, mainly looking for something durable.
Upgate/sidegrad to my HD 600Ive got some Argon mk3 too
>>739265870>Can someone please explain this to me?Gamer headsets are cheap shit sold to drooling retards who don't know any better, a good headphone, even a cheap one, can last for decades
>>739271578Price range around $150 will get you more than respectable everyday use headphones. Don't try to spend below $50. Don't buy used. Try to stick with the big names like Sony, Sennheiser, Audio-technica. I use Audio-technica Ath-m30s from a decade ago, the components are all perfect still but the earpads themselves have decayed with age, no big deal to me though. These are $80 headphones now.
>>739271676the beyers are the only good headphones in this image
>>739271504Important point is many mobos have godawful shit soundchips because it's easy to cut corners there. I moved from Mac to PC hardware and discovered that the hard way.
>>739272271I'll give them a look, thanks.
>put on headphones>have an anxiety attack because I can't hear myselfanyone else do this
>>739272821>I can't hear myselfWhat?
Comfort is all that matters. I'm one of those dysgenic freaks with my ears too far down on the lower 1/3 of my head still haven't found a pair that's comfortable and doesn't start crushing my head after 20 minutes.
>>739272821Noise canceling is an optional feature, bro...
I have the same one, might be the best headphones I have ever used.Might be because the best company is the one that can sell the highest quantity.
>>739267406If you mean mixing, yeah of course there is. You mix, or at least should produce the audio mix in a video game the same way you'd produce a movie or music album. With flat studio monitors.
>>739272821You know people often get anxiety attacks when they actually can hear themselves (specifically their own heartbeat).
>>739269550I have Artti T10s and I use them most of the time over my expensive Beyers.The bass is ludicrous though.
>use new headphones for a week>forget any "problems," just enjoy the music
>>739265870
You buy headphones according to your use and need. If you want fun bass buy closeback, if you want flat as shit buy open. Got an m50x for dirtcheap and tuned it a bit to harman curve and Ive never been more happy. There is better ones out there but its good enough for my usecase
>>739270671mine was $40 at walmart
>>739274105Enjoy brain cancer
>>739274105>battery-cuck trying to dunk on anyoneoh I am laffin
>>739265870>WirelessNo shit.
>>739265870I have the arctis nova pro, no complaints here. Sure, I could've got regular headphones, but I use them for multiple forms of media, not wanking myself off when listening to music. I have an av receiver, speakers and sub for music when I don't need to use headphones, and the gayming ones also use spatial sound for vidya.
Modmic + portra pros for 100 USD total mogs the shit out of all "gaming headphones"
If you're used to particularly shit headphones then actually good ones will sound like shit in comparison for a little bit just because they're so drastically differentI let my younger brother use my headphones once and he genuinely believed it was worse than his cheap turtle beach headset. Years of listening to nothing but abysmal clarity all around and a complete lack of any definition on the high end had made anything else pretty much unbearable. Everything sounded too sharp, etcSound signature matters a lot too. Fancy expensive neutral studio headphones will sound like shit if you listen to the wrong media with them just as super bass heavy ones or ones more tailored to vocals will with different media. You can absolutely have cheaper headphones that will sound better in your usecase than ones 10x the price
https://a.co/d/00oVK8sNThese might be cheap but these have been one of the most durable headsets I've ever bought. Has them for probably 7-8 years at this point, braided cable, it is USB but whatever. The sound quality is fine for non audiophiles. Poorfags rejoice
You're welcome, enjoy your new experience of the universe without going into debt on bullshit.
>>739267689>often have poor after sales support making obtaining earpads and headbands more difficult than it should be on purposeNot with audiophile price range tier stuff but I've had this trying to get replacement earpads for my headphones, ones I specifically bought because they were designed to have easily replaceable cups and a detachable cableThe plastic clips on the cups started to break so I went to go buy some replacements, none on the official website, none on amazon, none on official retailers for their products. I go to support and after a lengthy back and forth of them trying to follow their flowchart and say 'shits fucked, you need new headphones entirely' I do eventually get a new pair for free off of them. I guess they never actually made spare cups for them or only made a small number since they were really trying to lead the conversation towards a full replacement no matter how much I said I only need the cups.
>>739268713These really aren't very good, they're definitely good for their price but most 'studio' headphones are pretty good value already. I remember getting a pair of these a while ago and the samson sr850s absolutely blew them out the water, not that those are cheap anymore but before they got inflated in price by the dankpods video.
playing the headphones carousel has always led me back to the Koss UR29. Cheap, unkillable and the most important thing: comfortable. If I'd prefer to wearing my old issue kevlar helmet than your expensive headphones your design fucking sucks.
m50x and a cheap desktop mic is all i needbonus points for ATH actually providing ear pad replacements
>>739270960You realize sennheiser currently has the best wireless headphones, right (hdb 630)? And before that they still had the best wireless headphones (momentum 4).t. owns way too many headphones
>>739271185Sony MDR 7506s, which I have 2 pairs of are better than all headphones I've used with the exception of stax l700s. They are cheap, durable and there is good detail.
>>739269849If you get really lucky they can be exceptionally comfortable but it's entirely a person to person thing and I don't really understand what makes them different? I've had a few sets of IEMs now and the latest pair I've got fit perfectly, even with the same ear tip size that felt uncomfortable in other ones. I can happily wear them for a whole work day/fall asleep with them in no problemThat definitely wasn't true for the other ones though and while these are the most expensive set I've had it's not like price dictates anything that could change comfort much, nor were the others particularly cheap
>>739270158I have these and have no complaints. They're comfy and sound great.
>>739277002Personally I have regular sized ears with fuckhuge ear holes so the sets that most consider too big, heavy, and too long/wide nozzles like Blessing 2 and Kiwiears Cadenza 1 tend to fit me okay. Whereas highly recommended comfy sets like Chu, Bunny and Gate barely fit. I always use the biggest tips and the seal still breaks if I move my jaw whilst wearing these tiny sets
>>739265870because $15 today can't even buy you headphones.
just get a moondrop chu
>>739277879Apparently they suffer from oxidation, hope you don't live in a hot, humid place
I like my HyperX Cloud Alphas. The new model is 300 bucks though. I’ll probably buy an older one to replace my fucked up set.
I've refused to buy Chinese headphones for the longest time until recently, and now after I've bought & used a couple, I am now Team Hifiman™.I've heard Fiio is good too.
>>739265870Been using the same wireless stereo headset from the PlayStation 3 I got back in 2011, I use them as my go to PC Audio and keep them plugged in.Why buy anything else when it JUST WORKS
Irks me to no end that very few companies are copying Audio-Technica's "suspension bridge wings". It's the comfiest design ever, I can wear one for hours and not feel any discomfort. Also zero chance of developing gamer dents.PLEASE CHINAMANIf you wanna copy shit then please copy Audio-Technica's "suspension wings". I can no longer go back to solid headbands after using the ATH-AD500X.
>>739279934thought that was an AKG thinganyway, lots of chink clones of those, both samson and superlux are making them
>>739269550>unless you get one of those overpriced big iems with 15 driversKZ isn't overpriced (in fact they're very reasonably priced) but my God their IEMs are just too XBOXHUEG. I can only wear the for 30 minutes tops, because my ears start aching because of how bulky and non-ergonomical they are. They're so fat and bulbous, even changing the tips to small size won't help.
>>739279934I bought a pair of AD700s somewhere around 15-16 years ago and I still use them to this day. I've tried to change headphones multiple times but I always just go back to them for the same reason OP described: everything else just sounds bad.
let me guess you need more
I still have no idea what "monitoring" even is and what's the difference between a "monitoring headphone" and a normal one.
>>739271676I can't believe Tomoko is a filthy Dre-user.....
>>739277879I have the Chu II. How different is it from the original Chu?>>739278991Haven't happened to mine yet, but if the oxidation is only with the outer brass tips, wouldn't just cleaning it get rid of the oxidation? Unless the oxidation is all the way into its drivers/body.
>>739280175Every headphone is a monitoring headphone. Monitoring audio is akin to monitoring video (with your display monitor).
>>739265870I never had a pair of headphones that hasn't broke in a dumb way.
>>739265870Those specific headphones are surprisingly good for the price. I bought them as a dirt cheap stop-gap measure after my previous pair broke, just so I would have something I could use while shopping around for something more decent. They look like they would be flimsy, uncomfortable, and sound terrible, but they're actually pretty well designed, and I haven't felt any pressing need to replace them.
i've had these for ten years
>>739272448>have a pretty expensive motherboard>been using my DAC the entire team so I never even thought about it>see this post and decide to plug my headphones into my motherboardI can hear my computer thinking lmao.
>>739265870Everything more expensive is worse. My $5 Xiuxaojangpichingchong GPU is better than a $3000 5090. If I see grapes, they're sour.
>>739281604really looking back I can't think of many pieces of tech that have fulfilled their role so well in my life. every piece that can conceivably break or wear out is easy to replace with 3rd party options. the whole kit and kaboodle can be replaced for like 60 bucks. sensational.
>>739269550>order a sub 100 buck chink fi IEM and You can get ones for sub 20 bucks these days if you know which random literal who brand managed to get the same OEM as the good ones.>screwing people without expensive DAC/AMPYou're aware a cheapo usb sound card will give you 95% of the sound performance of an expensive dac brick, right?>Bonus: Seems like it's the choice of tryhard gamers for free wallhacks not to imply it's bad for music listening.You actually have to do this on headphones proper nigga.Also someone already mentioned soundstage, which you seemingly flat out can't get on a IEM.
>>739265870Wireless headsets are dogshit if you have working ears. My friend uses one, and he literally just straight up doesn't hear sound queues or enemy footsteps because of it. But hey at least you can stay in voicechat while pissing and shitting.
>he doesn't receive his audio from molten hot vacuum tubes older than his parentsngmi
>>739271676>the femcel schizo uses the cheapo chinkshit like a normalniggerb r u h
>>739281604Same here. Just changed the cable and the pads once, still good as new.
>>739274105nigga, closed back wired headphones existalso the consistent and impossible to remove lag on BT makes them fucking unusable, i legit don't know how can people use them
Will Audio-Technica ever make cables that don't suck donkey-ass balls? I like their headphones a lot but their stock wires have never been good. Not once. It's all horseshit.
>>739280175For whatever reason audio shit has a metric fuckton of buzzwords intended to scam shit.20% of the time they are talking about the drivers on the things, aka the things that actually make the sound.Most likely however they are just using a meme word to try upsell studio headphones at an even higher markup.Yes, it often literally just means "studio headphone".
>>739281675you have no idea how bad it can gettry opening up any game that is even slightly GPU intensive when plugged into the mobo, you will hear your pc's tinnitus
>>739281968post your toobs collection
>>739265870>gamer onesThat's for retards in everything except maybe mice.
>>739282630How long do these things last? Do they ever expire due to overusage? Always been tempted to try a tube amp but never had the courage/opportunity/excess funds.
>>739281839>You actually have to do this on headphones proper nigga.Pros typically run a headphone/iem combo. Headphone just for cancelling sound and iem because they deliver the best sounds.Soundstage is learned by brain. It's called psychoacoustics. Your brain tries to figure out the environment by finding patterns in sound waves. Source sound is responsible for setting up a convincing soundstage be it vidya engine or atmospheric music. Do not confuse this soundstage with spatial clarity. Otherwise loudspeakers would grant you wallhacks, but opposite is true. It is very hard to tell where a sound is coming from when using speakers.
>>739283689>iem because they deliver the best sounds.Is this true? I've never listened to an IEM that sounds better than any of my headphones. But maybe that's because I never splurge on expensive IEMs, at most I might buy some sub-$50 IEMs.
>>739283750Not him but it's personal, I like my iems because they are small and light, I could wear them all day, sometimes I fall asleep with one in listening to an audiobook they are that comfortable, a pair of proper cans would deliver "better" sound but there's trade offs all around and I find myself reaching for the iems more often than not
>>739277000Meanwhile 7506 are "Studio" headphones they werent designed for it, they were designed for "Professional" use unlike V6 and CD900ST.
>>739265870>Can someone please explain this to me?yeah. you're a retard.
>>739283061the haltron has an uptime of 1700~ hours and the linlai is only around 50 so far. it'll wear out because of the "mechanical" element of the filaments heating up and expanding/contracting like a lightbulb and there's always the risk of shorts and overvoltage, and just the natural loss of the gas inside, but a properly maintained and taken care off tooooobs should last a while.it's a meme "hobby" to be honest. i mean, it's fun, but kinda stupid and pointless. good during the winter though.
These are $50-ish and I find them too expensiveI settle for the $15 ones too.
>>739284282Logitech can barely make mouses nowadays, their earphones must be like ultra garbo
I went directly from using IEMs plugged into my old Blue Yeti to this. Changed my life
>>739284226>good during the winter though.Because they're warm? Sounds like a funny reason to like them, kek.
>>739265870Last year, someone conducted a blind study, and found that self-proclaimed audiophiles could not tell the difference between audio from a "high end" setup vs a signal wired through a literal banana. Some even preferred the latter.It's all placebo.
>>739285060My principle is simple: Just don't buy any headphones/IEM that's above $200. Anything above that is diminishing returns.
Look up what the people mixing everything I'm going to listen to use. Just get that. Audiophile fags can get whatever they want.
>>739265870Nah I think you're just jealous because you're poor.
>>739284282>logichinkgo buy actual chinkshit for a fraction of the price and an exponentially better product
>>739285348I used the ATH-M50x for a good 6-7 years before one day it just spontaneously burst into plastic bits. I didn't even drop it or threw it against a wall, it just fell apart.It was good before it died though.
>>739285060Nah banana clearly affected sound signature, everyone could tell the sound was "different".Many liked the way bananacable sounds more than normal cable, but that's just personal tuning preference: banana is high impedance, same as commercial impedance adapters.
I have a cheap piece of shit I got for like twenty bucks.I had the ear padding try to peel off of one side, but I took some superglue and glued that bitch right back on. The factory's machine must've just skimped out on that side.Works great.
>>739265870>it literally sounds worseIt probably just sounds different to what you're used to. Especially when you've been using bad headphones for a long time, maybe with a very old or very specific spatial audio solution. Especially when jumping from a very cheap headset to a top of the line product you should at least give it a while (1-2 weeks) to get used to the new sound profile before making your verdict.Chances are it does portrait sound a lot more accurate and clearer but your brain just got too used to the cheaper one. >being twice the weight/strain on my earsWireless Headsets are obviously heavier if you're used to cable.
>>739268123The nova pro wireless come with a pretty good DAC which is the black box anon mentioned. The components aren't bad at all.
>>739285348>>739285827Oh wait, hang on, I'm misremembering. It was the M40x to be precise. I don't think I've ever owned an M50x.
audiophiles are the stupidest people on earth next to applebabbies
>>739276315This is why I will never buy headphones that aren't Audio Technica. They stock replacement parts for ages.Sure, my newest headphone, the R70x has a literal design flaw with the swivel pivot that causes them to break in 2 years (they made them out of brass and over time the steel circlip chews them to pieces), but they still sell the part. I didn't use it because I fixed them with stainless steel instead so they won't fail again, but still, it was nice I could buy it if I wanted.
>>739270960Ive had my 650s for over 15 years without a single issue. Just dont treat your equipment like dirt.
>>739286515>This is why I will never buy headphones that aren't Audio Technica. They stock replacement parts for ages.I wish their cheaper headphones have replaceable/detachable cables. I've used the AD500X and the cable will just tear itself apart and rot away within 3+ years of usage. And I can't be bothered to modify it to have a detachable cable, I'm not knowledgeable enough with regards to DIY stuff.>R70x has a literal design flaw with the swivel pivot thatThat's unfortunate. I was considering buying that one. Does the R50x have that issue as well?
Tell me why I shouldn't keep buying these?Cheaper, better and more durable than any of the audio technica or sennheiser shit
>>739265870I cant use this shit without headache and overheating, i can only use in-ears. Currently Tanchjim TanyaThey are cheap and sound great
>>739265870Audio is a solved problem and has been for decades. There isn't any objective improvements from low end to high end headphones when it just comes to audio (aside from the cheapest literal shit), there's just different audio profiles which is subjective (and for the most part can be tuned to your likeness through eq) and you just didn't like the more expensive one's sound. Which is actually quite common, most manufacturers suggest a 2 week 'break in' period where you're suppose to only listen to your new headphones, it's not to break in the headphones but to get you use to the sound of them.
>>739286687>Does the R50x have that issue as well?I can't tell how the pivot works through pictures, but it doesn't look like the same design. It looks like the R70xa, which I think was redesigned to avoid this issue, AT know about it and gave up on the pivot entirely instead of making it out of the correct material.Personally, I would much rather go with the wing system and deal with the failing pivot, over switching to a headband. Some people don't like the wings though, so if you haven't owned a headphone with them before, maybe try one. The stock pads for the R70xa and probably R50x are hot dogshit for me, they're too small. I bought some 110mm XL brainwavz earpads that were a massive improvement.
>>739286687>I wish their cheaper headphones have replaceable/detachable cablesI used the AD700s for 12 years before the plastic hinge finally snapped, modding in a replacement cable wasn't much work. The R70x were a bit more work in that regard, because you need to make custom cables for them. The stock cable is bulky, can't make a sensible 90 degree turn at the connection point, and the port sticks out 5mm for no fucking reason. So I had to cut the port down flush with the body and make my own cables to have a good experience. And cables are a consumable, I'll have to do it again in a few years, because the replacement cables you can buy are junk for the superior vertical position for optimal routing. If you can live with the connectors jabbing into your shoulders every time you lean your head too far to one side, I guess you can use the replacements you can buy though.
>not using DR-11
adx5000Good day
>>739265870Audio is a meme. I use pic instead of my Audeze garbage.
>Bose QC35 are fucking up due to the shitty jack and noice cancelling mic portsAre there any better noice-cancelling headphones or do I just have to resign myself to a new pair after only a few years? I hated Sony's for reference, had a weird constant hum.
>>739287581lee i will uze anything with an animu package!
>>739287613Yes.
>>739287581$10 earbuds
>>739265870>pro>gamerThat's an oxymoron, retard. In audio equipment you never buy gamer shit.And don't go wireless, unless it's with an RF receiver.
>>739287593Invest in sound proofing instead of NC.
I like these a lot. Really sleek and stylish, nice QoL with volume and noise cancellation dials that feel really good to use, good battery life, sound quality and bass response is good enough for meThey are extremely cheap second hand on eBay
>>739286853I don't know. Frequency responses of mid-cheap headphones look quite bumpy. Can they really be fixed with eq?
>>739286756>SuperluxGod damn what a throwback, I loved my Superlux headphones in high school
>>739287667Did you keep the package in your closet? Did you flirt with it?
>kids who are all going to be deaf with tinnitus in 20 years
it literally doesn't get better than creative fatality/blaze, and they are 20 bucks.
>>739288085I already have tinnitus when i was wee kid. Only started using earphones around college. Helps in drowning out the ringing
>>739288085Do anons actually raise the volume?Don't you know you are supposed to reduce volume as much as you can get away with?
>>739288153i owned this one 15 years ago, and it wasn't good, just buy a DT770 and get it over with
>>739288085I'm 37 and have been using headphones for about 25 years. My hearing is still as good as it was decades ago.It's called not being a fucking idiot and having it on ear rape volume.
>>739265870Oh the nova pro sucks out of the box, for sure.If you put the equalizer on smiley mode(the lay out looks like a smile) it rivals high end headphones.If you know how to work the in build equalizer, it can sound absolutly fantastic, but maybe a bit too sharp in the trebble.The surround is fucking terrible tho and should be avoided at all costs
>>739288186Headphones are for anons that want to block out the outside world as much as possible. Of course they want it at full volumes at all times. Going deaf is peak blockage. Not needing an excuse to ignore people calling you.
>just pay extortionate prices for a worse product!no, you fucking zombie.
>headphones fucking up>audio randomly gets all warbly cant figure out how to fix it>fine ill buy new ones>works fine>suddenly a week later it happens again>WHAT>finally realize its my fucking headphone port on my pc that's fucked up
>>739265870>Pro gamerStopped right there. Do us all a favour and throw this faggot down a cliff
>>739288345>its my fucking headphone portYou should never, EVER, apply wear to ports you routinely unplug. A 2 dollar extension cable taped to your desk would've saved you.
>>739265870I had this phenomenon happen to me.You aren't going to believe it, but you actually need to train your ears to the new headphones.It's gonna sound worse at the beginning because your ears are used the the frequency of your shitty headphones, but after regular use you are going to get accustomed to them and be able to tell the difference.I just hoped one of the clerks explained this to me. It's even happens among high quality headphones.It probably even has a name.
>>739288265stop using chinkshit from walmart, anything with good noise isolation is going to deafen outside noise even when you don't even have it plugged in
>>739271676Aisaka Taiga wears some Energy Headphones, don't know the model though.I saw them in a Shopping Center but resisted the urge to buy because I already bought some...
I'm gonna buy the Dyson Zone Headphones for my Birthday.They look so fucking sick.They even have an air filter.
>>739288661>noise isolationTFW you fall to chinkshit features.
>>739289012having non-dogshit pads that can actually airlock the ears is not a "chinkshit" feature anon, it's basic bitch shit that is found on basically anything that isn't literal walmart garbage
>>739268553ath r70xa
Got this used for 20$, it's fucking comfy but i'm only looking for the mic, then found out that the range is shit and it echoes, should i return it /v/?
>>739288934as long as you're aware and fine that it's bluetooth only and has no wired mode.
>>739265870>plastic gaymer headphones actually sound like shityeah no surprise there.
>ctrl + f frequency>only two resultsIf you don't know what frequency response is then it's no surprise that going from one pair of headphones to another can sound like shit. Honestly get some 50 to 200 bucks closed or open headphones, look up what frequency response people measured as I doubt you want to do it for your own pair even if there are some variations and then slap an equaliser on them to get what you want whether it be Harman, flat or your own preferences. Anything beyond is just laziness or comfort as you will likely get something better out of the box up to the point where you just pay for the illusion of getting something better.
>>739289379youre a pseud and likely brown, most people "in the know" just care if the headphones have a flat, U or V audio with the bass not being overdone and the mids actually existing
>>739289448I doubt anons even know what Harman is when they recommend sennheiser HD660 left and right.
I've been using these 15$ thingies for years, zero complaints.
>>739289258I wish actual headphone companies made 2.4ghz dongle wireless headphones and it wasn't a space just filled with gameng headsets, games already have a fuckton of audio delay built into the OS so it sucks to add more with bluetooth.
>>739289560people were calling out the snapheiser recs tho
>>739289605it depends on the thread and the board I guess. My point is simply don't overspend and just use whatever you like. Equaliser can fix a lot even on cheaper stuff. Stay away from gimmicks like 3d sound, """gaming""" or even more retarded gaming AND audiophile gear as you will pay double the snake oil
>>739289713>Equaliser can fix a lot even on cheaper stuff.largely a memeliterally just buy an usb audio card, more braindead than eq to fix cheapshit and is also cheapshityou would be surprised how dogshit audio chips on mobos are these days, for anyone that doesnt care they wont notice and anyone that cares has either a dongle like i told you to get or a full dac/amp
I've been using Logitech headphones for years because I bought them on sale for like 30$. I can't really hear the difference between good and bad headphones with my built in laptop interfaces, so no need to cash out for more
>>739271676Someone post THAT Akiba's trip webm
>>739276163Nu-huh.
>>739289771yea I forgot about this I suppose. I haven't used the audio codec on my mainboard in ages for this reason.
>>739288626Solved by ChatGpt:What you’re describing is real, and in audio circles it’s usually called brain burn-in or listener acclimatization.People often confuse it with headphone burn-in (the idea that the drivers physically change after hours of use), but what you described is specifically your auditory perception adapting to a new frequency response.Here’s what happens:Your brain gets calibrated to the tonal balance of your old headphones. If your old pair had exaggerated bass, recessed mids, harsh treble, etc., that becomes your “normal.” When you switch to more accurate or simply different headphones, they can initially sound: thin muffled too bright lacking bass weirdly detailed After a few days or weeks, your auditory system re-normalizes, and suddenly the old headphones can sound terrible when you go back to them.This is related to broader psychoacoustic concepts like:auditory adaptation perceptual adaptation neural acclimatization reference shift There’s a famous version of this in studio audio: engineers who switch from consumer bass-heavy headphones to flatter studio monitors often think the studio gear sounds “boring” at first.The phenomenon is widely discussed in audiophile communities, especially around brands like Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, and Audio-Technica because their tuning styles differ a lot.So yes — there absolutely is a name for it, and your description is basically textbook listener acclimatization.
>>739265870hd600 or it's a scam
your ears isnt a perfectly calibrated coupler. frequency response graphs are a guide to the capabilities of a headphone/iem/speaker, not gospel. people who rely solely on fr graphs are retarded. the humidity in your space has more of an effect on the way you hear sound in the real world than how a headphone measures.no normal person listens to sine sweeps. fr evangelists are just copetards that rationalize their fanaticism with "but it measures great".
>>739290060owned various other shit and moved to speakers, and moving to speakers made me realize that was the only headphone i can imagine putting on myself>>739290107also this is the ultimate redpilliems are retarded for the same reason
>>739266030sennheisers are flat>open back + piercing loud highsyou might as well buy speakers at that pointor get yourself one of the 2012 hyperx cloud 1's because nothing sounds as good as them
>>739290010>le solvedlive in india long enough you'll get used to it
>>739268923>>739269021niggers what? its a fucking 2.1 thats probably not even 400 watts with that little ass port on the sub
>>739268519Certified poorfag/third world
>>739290010>gacha tranime reaction img>copypasted ai response
>>739268046>>739270326>>739271185You retards don't know what you're talking about, the V6 is near perfectly balanced and should be used by everyone so they know what good headphones sound like
get the AKG K371 if you want bassget the equivalent open back Sennheiser if you dontkeep in mind that headphones cannot produce true bass notes due to how low frequencies aren't just heard with your ears but also felt with your body and headphones cannot do the latter. i much prefer headphones that just admit this and roll off any bass under 40Hz instead of listening to the unnatural headphone bass.
>>739287593>buying into planned obsolescenceUnless you spend your life in environments with constant background noise, like on a passenger airplane, noise cancelling headphones are a meme
>>739289012>noise isolation is a memenigga you put them in/on your ears to form an actual physical barrier to sound from the outside worldfucking hell
Imagine not being able to afford basic quality headphones.
Ugghhh yeah I love being a gamer, love paying over the top prices for dogshit with the word gamer 420x pro series on it ugghh getting the extra large buttplug accessory to ram up my ass that makes bluetooth better ugghh yeahhh being a gamer and ramming accessories up my shitter is what its about ohh yeaahhhh gamers we love being fucked and paying for it ugh ye
For me it's pic related.>amazing sound>extremely comfortable>leather pads instead of velcro or other stuff that sucks up skin grease
>>739265870I've had my 650's for 11 years now, and it's been going strong, though having to clean hairs out of the drivers does get fucking annoying. >>739288186This. All my games run at 6% volume sometimes 10% depending how quiet the mix is in that game, but going into the 20% range is literally hearing damage range, I've had my stupid cheap headphones, 100% volume max bass days, 2013 dubstep was a horrible time, lmao, and it left me luckily with no noticeable hearing damage, but did leave me with a slight tinnitus ocean noise in one ear when it's extremely quiet.
>my amp started to absolutely shit itself out of the blue 4 years ago>think "fuck, it's expensive and just came out of warranty">turn it off then back on>never had a problem sinceFucking ghost possessed it I have no idea why that happened.
>>7392658702 things going on. Yeah, gaymer headphones suck, but also upgrading to $1,000+ top of the line headphones will sound weird or even worse for a few hours because the sound signature is different. Unless you are upgrading from straight dog shit, it takes a while to adjust.The proof is in going back after the adjustment and realizing how shit your ath-m50s were all along.
>>739292550I hate software drivers where 6 or 10 is already loud and anything beyond 15 or 20 turns your headphones into speakers
>>739265870gamer headphones are fucking dogshit scams raking money off stupid kids/parents who don't know better, just buy regular headphones from good brands
>>739288006My Superlux creaks and croaks whenever I handle it, like an old bed in an abandoned house. Is this normal?
>>739292396I must admit I am tempted by the verum 2 but my existing LCD2 clone headphones are perfectly fine. Planar magnetic man, shit is intoxicating.
>>739292987If you want to go full retard I can recommend the Dan Clark Noire X but they are too expensive honestly for your average Joe. A standard replacement cable alone cost 50 to 100 bucks here.
>>739292696Most of those super expensive headphones are treble cannons because they are aimed at older men (the ones with money generally) and as harman target research shows that crowd really, really likes treble.
>nooooooooooooooo I NEED a double ended cable and dac/amp output when I sit 2m away from my listening device!>single ended erodes the audio sound!!!!
>>739291852>blueshit>closed>snoy>qualityretard
>mfw playing alien isolation the first time on good headphones
I use picrel with a FiiO KA17 DAC. I had b*yerdynamic DT 1990 before but they have atrocious build quality and pretty much disintegrated down to a driver dying.Chinks make better stuff than krauts today.
>>739265870I use Superlux HD668B's, are they still considered to be some of the better ones? I know the price of them has almost tripled since I originally bought them years ago.
>>739293079Because niggerBeats-tier bass is so much better right?
>>739292987They're very nice but you probably won't notice a huge difference compared to your LCD2 clone assuming it's a semi-competent clone. I went from HD598s with no amp/DAC to Verum 2s, at first with no amp/DAC and later with a Fiio K13. Both jumps were noticeable even without switching between the two to compare, but after 2 weeks it just became "this is how things sound". Worth it? Yeah. Worth it if I already had some planars instead of ancient dynamics? I doubt it.The bass hole in the pads is absolutely worth it though, even if it takes a while to get used to and your brain starts tuning out the bass of your own heartbeat (never an issue when listening to something, but if you have them on in silence? very noticeable at the start).
>>739293507>fake leatherI hate that shit. Never buy headphones with that crap on it anymore.
>>739293708No just different as they are aimed at a very different target market - people who only listen to rap and adjacent music and the young adult male crowd. That is a target audience that really, really enjoys bass compared to other age groups (even sex plays a role in preference) and for that they are alright. If you however are not that person then they are awful, which is fine.
>audiophile threadTrue fact: if all audiophiles were shot in the head and dumped in a landfill, the world would only improve
>>739293772>LCD2 clone assuming it's a semi-competent clone. Monolith M1060 with all the "fixes" that were popular when it dropped to make it sound more like an LCD2. I got a pretty good deal on them years ago from someone who was clearing out their headphone collection so I paid like half of what a new pair was going for lmao. Semi related but I have no idea how people say they need loads of power out of headphone amps (yeah sure 600ohm headphones do exist but those are rare) as my little atom amp even on low gain reaches ear destruction levels of loud when the knob is cranked and on high gain they'll probably explode the headphone driver.
>>739293865>even sex plays a role in preference)Go on...
>>739293970Replace the word audiophile with zoomer and I agree
>>739293853They come with velour pads too and you can get aftermarket options in real leather. It's not like any manufacturer ships their headphones with real leather pads.What a weird thing to nitpick about. The fake leather has great quality by the way, no chipping and no sweating.
>>739294005If you dig out the old harman target whitepapers (they stopped making them public a few years ago but the older ones are) they have a breakdown of how different groups have a preference to different response curves. Young adult females do not like as much bass as young adult males and this trend continues until you hit the older crowd (50yo+) where they both hate bass. The harman target is not some absolute perfect target to hit (even the paper says this, but most people never bothered to read it) but it is an average curve that on average everyone will like. The idea being it is a sort of catch all baseline and headphones aimed at specific groups can be tuned appropriately.
Okay niggers, I'm not big on over ear headphones, and usually just use IEMs, but all this krautheisser glazing got me invested, and now I want a pair of HD600s. Are they really that universal?
What makes headphones "coilwhine" when using 3.5mm jack and touching the ground? I swapped to a pair that lets me use USB and it disappeared
>>739294391They were all the rage 30 years ago but today even cheap chinkshit (included your IEMs) mog them hard.Their drivers are just very outdated and incapable of producing the whole range properly.Either get planars or top end DD like Focals or beyer's tesla shit.
>>739294516One part of the audio chain is electrically noisy. Let me guess, you are plugging into a motherboard?>>739294391They are one of the good but not wallet raping headphones that play well enough with anything you throw at them.
>>739281604I have the mk2s, please do yourself a favor and get an eq to bring up the bass frequenciesinstantly they sound a lot more fun
For me it's the Beyer DT 1990
>>739294391Don't buy shitsheitster, get a Beyerdynamic or a Sony V6/7506 (or whichever number)
>>739271578>>739272271Great advice.To add to that:If you need a new microphone too, you could just get an external USB audio interface + an XLR microphone (~$150–200 altogether). I can recommend the brand Behringer for the audio interface.The best headphones in the world will sound bad if your source can't drive them, and the audio quality of an XLR mic is incomparable to a USB microphone.
>>739294608No, it was always from the front panel
>>739281604I have SR60e that i would need to drill and replace the cable because the original frayed cable is fixed. Maybe i should just buy these.
Psst, if you want to go into the realm of equalising here are some starting points;Equalizer APO - a system level equalizer for windows>https://equalizerapo.com/download.html(Optional) PEACE - a gui for equalizer APO that makes it a little more user friendly, but you still need to actually learn when the software is showing you>https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/Some resources that have essentially equaliser profiles for headphones - idea is you feed these values into equalizer APO. They target slightly different response curves but the general idea is to reign in headphone responses that are considered unwelcome.>https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presets/?screen_view_count=1>https://www.autoeq.app/Please note however there is no single "correct" way for headphones to sound and ultimately you should tune to your preference.
>>739294882Oh god that is even worse. Essentially the cable running from the front panel to the motherboard header has shitty shielding and all the electrical noise from your system is interfering with the sound signal. If you plug it into the rear motherboard jack I would wager the "coil whine" sound diminishes or disappears. Decent onboard audio is shielded for this very reason.
>>739295141Forgot to add the most important thing, it only happens with noise canceling on, or when headphones are "on" I'll check later today when i'm back home
>>739265870I used the MDR ZX110 for a while before they started crackling. They're good but they have a direct upgrade, the ZX110NC. Literally the same but with noise cancelling. And there's better noise cancelling headphones anyway. I currently use picrel, AKG NC60 wired. They're good but i fried the noise cancelling system by using an aliexpress charging cord. The sound is still amazing, especially for the (used) price range.
>>739265870Buy Sennheiser noob
>>739295073>autoeqlol, lmao even
Behead ASR believers. Head-fi should be the only resource you need.
>>739265870https://www.sennheiser.com/en-us/catalog/products/headphones/hd-490-pro/hd-490-pro-700286Imagine being so stupid to buy gaming headphones instead of just good fucking headphones
>>739265870>using anything """gamer"""-related for audioFound your problem right there, picrel ($699) sounds great and has served me fine for years.
>>739296123Do you buy a microphone seperately or are you a singleplayer chad?
>>739265870>my old speakers broke down so i bought new ones from Logitech for 150 euros >I can’t hear the difference between them , the new ones sound the same Everything is a fucking scam in this world
>>739276163don't get these if you have big ears, I have a permanent scab on the back of my right earlobe now
>>739296164Was initially singleplayer-only but ended up having to buy a separate microphone when I made some friends. Still mostly play singleplayer games with the occasional co-op thrown in but it's nice to hang out and chat.
>>739290010none of this is true by the way. You described something with a solution and the alogrithm that puts together words that back up exactly what you wrote. No analysis or thought, just studious agreement.You fool.
>>739296281Thats one advantage gamer headphones have over regular ones. CBA buying a seperate one and having it take up space at my desk honestly.
For a headset with a mic, the audio quality of these are pretty great for sub >$1000, but they're genuinely some of the least comfortable to wear headphones I've ever owned, worst than my old ass $80 Hyperx Cloud 2's. Had to get a separate cushion insert to put on the bottom of the head strap because of how uncomfortable it was to wear for more than a few minutes.
>>739296435It's 2026. It should be possible to have some crappy mic sitting on the table drive your own voice trough some AI model entirely transparently. Without any need to bring it to a centimeter from your lips.
>>739268713using those exact ones at rhe moment, they're fineI'd like to go big at some point though
>>739296164table microphone works fine if you need one
>>739265870I went from Hyperx to JBL350 and 810. The base audio might sound worse and equal to, respectively, but the 3D audio with the JBL software opened a whole new world to me. The first time I turned it on, it felt like someone did a deep cleaning on my ears for the first time
>>739290667>spending 200+ for discord use>spending 200+ for spotifylets be real anon, if someone is asking for GAYmur headphones, they don't know shit
>>739296640this, get some cheap fifine or anything with a condenser, it will be miles better than any headset garbage
luv me planar magnetic bass. So clean and so deep it is credited as a support actor in the core.
>>739269550You don't get the same sense of space(some people call it soundstage) with IEMs due to no pinna interaction. An EQ'd pair of open back headphones would be better than IEMs because of that. I do think it's a better idea to use IEMs than closed back headphones, though. Since closed back headphones can change their FR a lot with a broken seal for example. Closed back DCA models are still god tier, though.>>739292396These are really good. The magnetic earpads is a cool idea.>>739270498>LCD-GXBased. For me it's the LCD-X.>>739295995>t. Abyss
I really do like external dac and amp solutions - particularly useful for me as i've got my ps3 plugged into my fancy oled monitor so I can just hit a button the dac and get the optical output from the ps3 to my headphones. Motorstorm never went so hard.
>>739270361BRING OUT MIKIBRING OUT MIKI
>>739292396>Look these up>Everyone who's tried them loves them>Redditors seething because the creator is heckin' racistI'm very interested in picking these up now.
>ear cageslol, lmao unc - IEMs surpassed them years ago
>>739298049He was absolutely despised when he made the verum 1's because of stuff he said lol.
>>739285348FEELS LIKE I'M WEARING NOTHING AT ALL
are wireless IEMs a thing? what flavor of chinkanium do I buy?
>>739289245cooler master is making headphones but more importantly why would you buy one?
>>739298295Kinda? Depends on how much of an audiophile you are. AirPods Pro 3 are the best wireless in ear headphones you can buy but getting them to play nice with games is a hassle.
Reminder that sony bought out audeze lock, stock and barrel a few years back.
I used ad700's a long time ago and miss them, I even worn them to college. Sadly I broke the jack by tripping on the cable getting up from my computer. I've never had good luck with headphones even though I try to take care of them. Fatality headset snapped on me, K92 cable got loose and headband lost its stretch and snapped on another pair now this cheap gaming headset I was given loses sound in one ear depending on my angle
I just use these two.
>>739268543>gaming gear with a huge L on itngmi
>>739298367considering every cooler master product I ever had, they're a decent enough brand
>>739298596>Audeze bought by Snoy>Beyerdynamic bought by the chinks>Sennheiser dropped by Sonova and looking for someone to buy themGrim. But Sony is fucking retarded, they only released one shitty looking headset using Audeze's drivers and nothing else(which was already shittier than the Maxwell anyway). I don't get what was the purpose of that acquisition.
ITT coconut audio
>>739298908> I don't get what was the purpose of that acquisition.Sony is massive so it could've been for something as simple as poaching the engineers for other internal projects.
The best gaming headset and mic I have owned was this 40 dollar one from Amazon I bought a long time ago.The company went out of business but that was better quality than my 300 dollar headset.
>>739298748R70x with bigger earpads are basically the same headphones with much better sound.
>headsets
>>739296352But it is, you fucking Niggerfaggot?"Psychological Burn it" happens, The same way your eyes adjust when there is more or less light, the same way you perceive a song to be slower or faster after hearing one with different BPM.If you can enjoy a song on Cheap Plane Earphones, good for you, grease monkey.But Professionals have standards, and Frequencies DO EXIST.RETARD.
>>739270671>Literally nothing to do with the thread>American boogyman living rent free in your head
Any Dj's here?
>>739265870Gamer gear is for preteens and imbeciles. Everything you need for gaming has an equivalent in other enthusiast spaces that works better, is more quality, and doesn't make you look like a 15 year old tranny adjacent
>>739299403Do professional flash drive inserters really need their own type of headphones?
>>739265870wireless is simply not good for audio yet.
>>739299403oh there are plenty of dick jockeys on /v/
>>739288626Audiphiles called it 'burn in', but they'd do retarded shit like actually running their headphones for hours upon hours at a time playing white noise thinking it was something to do with the drivers when the reality was they were just getting used to them when they did listen.
>>739267214Too late. I brought the wired version
>>739293507fiio is the fucking goat of modern affordable audiosnapheiser and boomerdynamic troons need no apply
>>739299584Burn in is real, but not in the way those audiofools think. Anything mechanical will have a settling period as the normal stress of operation sets in (its is why car manufacturers will often say not to redline their engine for the first N miles/kilometres of use) but for something like headphones that is likely either caught during factory testing or sorts itself out in an hour or so of normal usage as it warms up for the first time from the electrical current. The idea of spending tens of hours to solve burn in is nonsense.
>>739299959I remember reading about this years ago and eventually an audio engineer mentioned they couldn't seriously sell a product where the drivers output changes the first one or two weeks based on playback.
>>739299531Yes, most Clubs and Dj Equipment is Owned by Pioneer. It's the standard brand and pretty monopolized.Not like an alcoholic inserter like you would know, but a Dj's work is more than scratching the turntables at a party, specially if you are a producer.But thanks, I keked.
>>739300160Exactly. While I could go on a bit of a rant the short of it is a lot of these audiofool beliefs are basically rooted in some questionable shit built in the 70's or 80's that has very loose tolerances - particularly in regards to tube amps - that got perpetuated as ground truth. The rise of digitisation and general manufacturing improvements basically eliminated these idiosyncrasies. That combined with the rise of chi-fi precisely because good, clean audio reproduction (clean as it any distortion is beyond human hearing, even if it is machine measurable) caused the old audiophile companies to double down as they were - and are - having their lunch eaten by much cheaper alternatives.The days of an audiophile needing to spend thousands to get clean audio are long gone and that lead to many of the older crowd to lean into audiofoolery particularly as more research was done and a huge amount of what goes into making a good set of headphones, speakers, etc can be explained with science but that clashes with muh feels. Are a pair of thousand shekel dan clark headphones nice? Sure, but you're not paying that much for the actual sound reproduction, you're paying for the brand image, quality of construction and other tertiary features. Nice for sure but when fools convince themselves more expensive = better you get where we are today. If you want something fancy go for it, just do not lie to yourself about what you are getting.
>>739269594>>739266069Ive been using my arctic 7 for like 10 years now. The built in mixer makes me never want to switch but theyre starting to deteriorate. One of the best headsets ive ever used. No complaints other than >micro-usb
>>739299403Yes, but never tried these. I use DT990s
i've used expensive headphones, i've used cheap headphones, i've used $800 iems, and $18 iems.they all sound shit if you run them with untuned audio.yeah your shitphones sound better blasting out a fucking mp3 on tictok thats been uploaded from a webrip then deep fried.but if you spent some time dialling in the curve, and playing high quality audio it would be better, shit dude, the best IEMs i have sound god-awful on my PC because its all interference buzz, but out of my balanced audio PMP its great.but i still use the $18 ones daily because the podcasts i listen to dont need better.
>>739301037If anyone tells me they have their music in anything other than flac I instantly cease engaging with them. MP3 shitters BEGONE
>>739301037>>739301145I started listening to jazz and classical after getting a proper audio setup simply because those genres are recorded and mastered properly unlike most music which is full of artifacts, white noise, volume wars tier tuning, etc. Good gear will make most music sound like SHIT by revealing all the flaws and amplifying the dogshit.
>schiit audioo i am laffin
>>739300710>quality of constructionThe DCA headphones I have use glued pads and one is slightly coming off even though I can push it back in. Build quality is otherwise nice but they don't use standard cables for replacement either so you have to pay premium if it breaks. I still like them but yeah they are overpriced
>>739301145i use mp3s all the time, because if im outside then i cant get the full quality anyway, so i may as well have ALL my music available, instead of needing to pick 100 to be unable to appreciate because its windy on the bike, or theres a mouth breathing co-worker nearby.theres a time and a place for everything, and appreciating music is an indoor controlled environment joy, like jacking off, or painting miniatures.>>739301315this is the usual issue.if you can hear more highs and lows, then people who hide low quality in the highs and lows get heard.cant play games with my good headphones, or all i hear is fucking ambient audio hums and whines that didn't get picked up by the devs.my favorite is in older games when you can hear people talking through the walls in the background of voice lines, usually lost in the bass.anyway, i use arctis 7s for gaming, because the mic's good enough, the audio isn't shit, and the range is long enough to get too and from the kitchen AND bathroom, so i can still listen to my mates while pinching a loaf or eating one.again, sound quality is useless if its not usable.and $40 TWS buds are way more usable than overears in the real world. (moondrop space travels my begrudging beloveds)
>>739301421>don't use standard cablesShit like that angers me so much. Human hearing is kinda shit in general and the actual transmission of sound (analogue or digital) is very simple so for all intents and purposes (in the context of cables) it is a solve problem so having special custom cables is bullshit of the highest order. At least the retarded (for consumer headphones) XLR connection is standardised.
>>739269021Doesn't matter if you're sitting right in front of the speakers.
>be elitest faggot>pretend that low latency wireless has no value for gaming>pretend that normal people give a shit about audio quality for games>die without ever seeing a vagina
>>739269594The current arctis 7 still has the slider on the ear cup. I have one. I give my buddy shit who blew money on the pro cause he doesn't even have the hub to adjust this anywhere near him physically so he basically has less functionality for more money. I will say however, the hot swap battery on that one is the only feature I actually want added to mine.
>>739290172>open backnot everyone is still living with their mother>what about living with a gf?s-shut up
>>739301595>my favorite is in older games when you can hear people talking through the walls in the background of voice lines, usually lost in the bass.Reminds me of the classic need for speed games - if you use the cockpit view and have decent audio you can hear that dull thunk/clunk of the gearbox when shifting gears but on crap headphones or speakers it will get drowned out by the sound of the engine as the games make that proportionally louder when using the cockpit view compared to external cameras.
>>739294078>It's not like any manufacturer ships their headphones with real leather pads.Audeze, ZMF, Verum, also Moondrop iirc, at least with some models.
>>739265870Because it was such a top seller and highly recommended, I bought a beyerdynamic D770 pro and the bass is fucking abysmal, it's almost not even there..I'm not particularly mad but I just wish I had bought sennheiser or any other brand I used to use before it
>>739301671I've seen cables where I wonder wtf must be in there to justify the price. The standard dummer cables DCA headphones come with based on choice may it be XLR or 3.5/6.3 or 4.4 costs as standalone 110€ here. The "premium" Vivo cables cost 200 more.
>>739294391It's a clear sound but you won't get bass out of it.
>>739265870So the thing with any audio device is that the manufacturing process weighs heavily into each individual unit. You can have cheap as shit headsets that sound pristine because they were literally made that way, they came out beyond perfect, all connections are pristine, flawless magnetics, etc, etc. The opposite is also true - expensive sets can get bad or flawed parts, a high quality part can be damaged during assembly or connected poorly, etc.So, TL:DR - all audio equipment is hit or miss. You simply have to keep trying until you get one that actually works as designed.
>>739265870Are there any GOOD wireless with dongle headphones?I have Dt770 pros but I hate the wires
Gaming audio equipment is just a bad joke.These are my recommendations for speakers and headphones if you want the good shit on a reasonable budget.
>>739302085>I've seen cables where I wonder wtf must be in there to justify the price.They say Monster on the packet. That is all there is to it. Unless you get the true bottom of the barrel chinesium shit cables do not affect audio quality as their resistance is negligible. There is a great video I saw on youtube some years back (which I can't find) where some audiofool has a super expensive USB cable that promotes itself as offering the cleanest audio and does a blind test with himself and his wife. Neither hear a difference between the megabux cable and any old usb cable they had so he logically deduced his testing is flawed because clearly the gold-plated-loli-scented cable IS better, so he must've fucked up.See also: people obsessed with balanced outputs on headphones that pull under 1W of power at full blast.
>>739301671>>739302085Never buy cables directly from the headphone manufacturer, they're all comically overpriced. The Hirose connectors DCA uses are nice because they lock so they won't loosen, same as mini XLR. You can get chink cables for DCA(or most other audio brands, really) headphones for less than fifty bucks. Worst case of shitty manufacturer cables is HD800. The stock cable is horrible and costs about 250 bucks as well. Meanwhile you can get higher quality chink cables with the exact same connectors for fifty bucks.
as long as your headphones are from a vaguely known brand, you can pretty easily make up for any shortfalls they have
>>739302349>Never buy cables directly from the headphone manufacturer, they're all comically overpriced.Oh ye of little knowledge.>https://hartaudiocables.com/
>>739300876>>739301845I'd still be using my 7s if the hinge wasn't about to break. I might try getting a broken set and transplanting the internals one of these days.I love the hotswap battery on my Nova Pros, but I hate the chatmix being software-side now. Apparently the Elite version has both onboard chatmix and the hotswap battery but even I'm not insane enough to spend $800 on SS garbage.>>739301145I'm not cocky/deluded enough to convince myself I can tell the difference from a flac and a high-quality MP3. I have some Soundcores at work, and they have nice highs and good lows, and that's good enough for me.
>>739270158I use these but I got leather cushions, you gotta wrangle them a little to make them feel comfy tooThey sound better than my iems
>>739302506I would buy from Hart Audio more often if they didn't charge me more for shipping to Europe than the cables cost me kek. And for the cheapest shipping option they state that if the package is lost in transit you're out of luck. I cri evrytiem since their modular cables are pretty nice.>>739302197Audeze Maxwell, I suppose. Build quality and QC is pretty shit, though.
>>739302349>look it up>just 1/4 of the original pricenice I'll just buy one of those if I manage to break my cable
>>739302301Balanced output is the one meme I want to try just to see if I notice a difference at all, but I'm not buying a new amp with a balanced output alongside a new cable to boot to try out something I assume won't give me any noticable difference apart from making me need to turn the volume down a bit.
>>739302692>Audeze MaxwellLooks cool but its still 300 bucksStill, last time I checked for non bluetooth wireless decent headphones they were like 1000USD+ so SOON we might get something sub 200
>>739302692Those hart cable prices are absurd.>>739302743Balanced has its uses - namely for looooooooooooooooooong cable lengths and/or really high impudence headphones but for anything else it is a meme. Sounds good on paper but basically useless in practical terms for home usage.
>>739301671I think its funny that recording studios just make their own cables for pennies while some people buy gold plated shit to listen with.
>>739302197The most highly rated ones so far IIRC are HyperX Cloud 3S, Audeze Maxwell's and the Snapheiser HDB 630. I grabbed a pair of the Cloud 3S's for travel and theyre very solid sound wise, though I do miss my spaciousness from open backs.
Are HD 579's good?I swear the right can is a notch quieter than the left one.
>>739265870Sonyphones are fine >>>/g/.also use earphones .
yep, it's gaming timeI kinda want a planar set
Why yes I do use planar magnetics to listen to foregone destruction from the unreal tournament OST, why do you ask?
>>739301671nigger is isn't about the "sound quality" but better build quality, texture and flexibilitystock cables are usually dogshit
>>739302349You should never buy cables in general. I needed some low profile jacks, none existed, so I had to modify my own. The cable I used was a cheap 2 dollar chink one, it's lasted me longer than cables I've spent 10x that price on.
>>739303463B A S E DASED
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>>739272821>I can't hear myselfdon't you have an inner voice or something?>>739290010>source: Kike GPTI knew this was the future of internet discourse but wasn't expecting it to come this soon>>739296597I wonder if the other models are also uncomfortable
As a rule /v/ doesn't care about how games sound, only how they look.
>>739304757Indeed. The first thing you always hear is "LOOK AT THIS GRAPHICS!!!" "SO REALISTIC!!1It pisses me off.
>>739305437Nobody cares about audio when vidya is expected to be heard on 2W rattling TV speakers or some airpods you found in a drawer.
>>73929439110/10 midsSmooth as fuck trebleBass? What bass?
>>739305680>mudheiser>trebleit can't even reproduce higher frequencies
>>739305680Bass is for mumble rap listeners aka not people and thus who cares what they think.
>>739265870m50x just werks
>>739305437>>739305520I like that KCD gives you the option to use higher quality audio, shame about the sequel, though. Worst thing is when the audio is just worse quality in a remaster. I remember the Skyrim remaster and the Persona 3 Portable PC port both use lower quality audio than the originals because the devs are fucking retarded.
>>739301037>>739301145At least I'm not using YouTubetoMp3 converter like my retarded normies friends suggest. I Rip or download my files from the source directly. Later they wonder why the volume is low all the way up or it sounds like shit on some expensive jbl. This is why I hate YouTube Uploads and Re-Uploads, they are fucking the audio up.
>>739305750I half agree with you, but the HD600 have a huge rolloff below 100Hz. I merely ask for a more horizontal line. Modern open back dynamics are much more capable at those low frequencies, and planars have literally no issue at all.
>>739296597ive never used the mic version but m50x ive ran through 3pairs, i always replace the foams with nicer ones
beyerdynamics 770 are cheap, durable and neutral af so you can use them to record/produce without an issue too. getting some cheap 50-100 bucks interface + a real mic and real headphones is always worth it over getting a headset like some gimp imo. esp if you are at all inclined to make music/record smth in the future. 990s are also really good, but semi open so not for everyone.
Planars are also the most responsive to EQ and more volume (i.e more power in) won't change their frequency response like some dynamic drivers do.
>>739302071ok this shit makes me mad. youre hearing the actually neutral version of the sound. imagine being this used to bass boost you think the bass is bad. fucking lost generation with beats and apple headphones. bass boost is fucking terrible if you listen to music thats not hiphop or edm, or ever want to record smth.
>>739267087I like GRADOs.
>>739306006Why not use both drivers? DD for bass, planar for high...
>>739306006Yeah there's no reason to use DD headphones today.
>>739305951> 770> neutralYo wat?
>>739306160'cuz headphones are smol and bigger driver can make bigger sound. You don't put two engines in a car unless you have to.
>>739265870>Sony MDR-ZX110>Logitech k120>Logitecg m-90>Intel core i5-2500k>Nvidia gtx1080tiYep, it's gaming time.
>>739306273IEMs are even smaller but they can have multiple drivers
>>739306160>>739306412Meze Empyrean uses a hybrid dd+planar driver from what I remember. But there really is no point in doing something like that. You can get the frequency response you want with a single driver so putting multiple is just an excuse for making the price higher. Like those 6+ driver IEMs. If anything, tuning is more difficult with multiple drivers and you don't get any benefits from doing that, either.
The only people I trust for reviews are dankpods and crinicale.
>>739288085>Gets tinnitus from passing ambulanceUnlucky. Good thing you didn't use headphones ore IEMs tho lol
>>739306547>crinacle>fat deaf incel who only listens to shrilly weebshit and likes h*rman tuning
So this movie has nothing to do with headphones?disappointed.
>>739294647any recommendations in the spirit of the akg 240s, i.e. super cost efficient?
>Friend spends 1000s on audio shit tells me to try out his STAX or some shit >Put them on and listen>Say yea it sound alright I guess>Turns and looks at you like this
>>739306762He owns a he-1 and you do not so...............
>>739306847It does if you get a copy from yify lmao.
>>739307015They expect you to start moaning and nutting your pants or some shit
>>739306847
>>739265870i just use cheap earphones now, headphones make my ears sweat and also made the top of my head bald
>>739265870i got a pair of marshalls and i hate them. they cook my ears. i tried loosening them but no
Good thread guys, sincerely. Thanks for all of the info.
>>739267581Fucking what? You got wax oozing out your ears, candlehead?
>>739265870expensive headphones/microphones are a scam anyway, the high cost you are paying is for the brand and nothing more
>>739307026What does that have to do with anything? Everything (((tuned))) with his input sounds like shit and he only listens to weebshit.
>>739265870wasent their some research that called out audiophilles to be less then wine tasters as they couldent tell a dam thing diffrent from $5 headphones vs $1000 ones?
>>739307281Euro hours tend to be a bit more educational.
>>739307015unless you do a side by side comparison if you're used to half decent sound the difference will be insignificant so no idea what your friend expected
>>739307570There is probably a LOT of placebo. Some guys start putting cystals on the cables and shit.
i dislike having things in my ears. i need some headphones that i can take with when i go out. any recommendations?
>>739307625Thing is humans addept real fast so using them godly headphone mean nothing if you use them too much lol funny that
>>739307570Anyone can clearly tell the difference between some cheap headphones and some proper ones.Except in the "big leagues", they are truly larping over there.
>>739307570Yes but not quite to that extreme. What that (assuming it is the same research we are on about) showed was that actual trained listeners could tell the difference but the average audiophile could not. Trained in this case refers to people like audio engineers who are listening for errors rather than for enjoying the music as presented.That is why we get the term "listening to the gear" rather than what you are playing on them and that is the main pitfall audiophiles fall into which leads to audiofoolery. This is an important distinction but easily missed.
>>739302542>solid bass>solid surround sound>decent mids and highs>generous battery life>comfortable adjustable head strap>no gay rgb>obvious mute light>mixer to mute chat on the fly for hot momentsThe kind of headset that lets you hear footsteps across the map. 9/10
ATH-M50x are amazing but the worst thing about them is that the ear pads themselves are only locked in place from overextending outwards by a small plastic nub which easily breaks according to the netboth sides broke on mine and I had to buy this nigger rigged cheap fix some dude on ebay sells where it's two pieces of plastic that screw together to hold an earpad in place
headphones remind me a lot of watches in the way that if you're paying more than like $50 for one you're only buying it to flex about how expensive your headphones/watch arejust buy a casio, just buy some porta pros
>>739307298I mean what else could it have been?I'm asian btw so I have the dry earwax gene
>>739307664Any Over or On ear headphone would do.Or you could buy a portable JBL speaker like me.The downside (or upside) is that everyone will hear you listening to anime music on the street.Doesn't bother me though.Save the "I don't see it" joke. It's not funny.Camofags rise up.
>>739308128>$50The break point is $300 with the HD 600 btw
>$5 earbuds>10$ keyboardyep it's gaming time
>>739308343>$10 keyboardhell yeah man I love feeling like I'm typing into mashed potatoes
>>739308189Wake up grandpa. Cheap planars have been a thing for years and mog your antique mudcannons into oblivion.
>>73930852529 years and still rocking. Wonder if they will do a 30 year anniversary thing
>>739308687They're not rocking anything and have been irrelevant for over a decade. It's low tech.
>>739307015Not related to headphones, but that reminds me of people that spend thousands on turntables> youtube video of some guy using an expensive technics with all sorts of equipment to connect it to the PC> sounds like shit with terrible stereo> me with a cheap 250€ turntable with builtin USB> digital rip sounds almost indistinguishable from using speakers directlyI don't get these people.
>>739308747A solved tech
I got some hifiman ananda and honestly I feel I got scammedlike, they're good, not $400 good
>>739308918I read myself into turntables cause I was interested as well and there is so much shit. Motor being under the disc or using some band, different cartridges, phono amp built in and what outputs. Some will probably tell you digitalising the output kinda defeats the purpose of a turntable but the audiophile rabbit hole is deep and there is so much bullshit they cope with.
>>739309195>Some will probably tell you digitalising the output kinda defeats the purposeMy reason to listen to vinyl is the different master that is - usually - used.The analog->digital->analog quality loss was debunked a long time ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM the analog out of the digital is identical to the analog input to the digital.
>>739265870just get audio technica headphones, moron
>>739265870>being twice the weight/strain on my earsYou sound like a onions poisoned faggotLearn to adapt
>>739265870oh god you're one of those losers stuck in the past, too prideful to change or admit things you don't like
Some fags talk about clamp force like their heads are grapes
>>739310030smooth brain, soft head
>use headphones for years>gamer dent>ears hurt from being pressed for hours>too warm on the headswitched to iem and never looked backeven my tinnitus went away since there's no more pressure on my affected ear
>>739310195>iemI still don't know what the difference between iems and earbuds are and I'm half convinced there isn't one and it's just audiophiles trying to make themselves sound smart
>>739265870I have some random sony Headphones from like 10 years ago that I use for gaming. They cost maybe $60 and they are AMAZING.Any horror game played with them just sounds incredible
>>739310273IEMs fuck your ears like you're a slut.
>>739310273earbuds - wireless earphonesearphones - small speakers inserted in ear, mostly used on phonesiem - earphones with wider audio range, also used on things other than phones
>>739310338Bait. You fuck your own ears if you listen to loud music like a retard, no matter what you use.
>>739310483That's not what I meant...
>>739310586for me, it's makita
>>739310797Anon /v/ is a DeWalt board. GTFO
>>739307570I'm fairly certain that'd be something like FLAC vs mp3 because the quality of a $50 vs $500 headphone is noticable by even the average person assuming the $500 one isn't a piece of shit.
>>739268835Speakers are no good if you want to use a mic.
>pc pluggewd into modern amp and dac with some planar magnetic headphones>psx and ps2 plugged into a 5.1 surround sound systemyup, gaming is good
I use the drop pc38it just werks, also tried out a cheap sennheiser closed back and it raped my ears no matter the setting.
>>739307298More than wax you're sloughing off skin cells, grease, sweat etc it all mixes together and gets sour I bet that water was gross and they came satisfyingly clean I love that shit
>>739285348I've had these for like 9 years and they're still going strong.The faux leather material starts to flake after a while, but I just bought a headband cover and replace the earpads every couple years. You can get different earpads but they change the sound compared to the OEM/replica ones.
>>739270960>btfo by chinkshit and bluetooththis is a very low quality shitpost
>>739309146The Ananda are in a really bad place with the Hifiman lineup honestly, especially when they've put out the XS and XV and the Sundara's are right under it price wise and many people argue sound better too. At least you can say you're at the peak of diminishing returns because anything at a higher price is going to be even more of a disappointment from here on.
>>739311101never had that issue, nowdays both software and hardware is so good that it know how to cancel out the sound coming out of the speakersused zoom, teams, google meet and amazon chime without any issues
>>739311010Kinda hard to compare two headphones side by side as most are tuned differently. I doubt most people will notice errors and disturbances unless they are very noticeable.
>>739311328China has been making high quality audio gear for many years now and they actually innovate unlike westoids. Better build quality often times also.
Headphones are for children. Men use bookshelf speakers.
>>739311459Just get fiio ft7 or ft5. Much better build quality and comfort and you can EQ them easily to whatever you want.
>>739266030This. Never buy gamershit.
It's FT1 Pro for me. A small 1.5dB bump in the bass region and this thing is AMAZING.
>>739310887Are these good?One for each ear.
>>739311861why not both depending on the situation?
>>739311861They are called MONITORS YOU UNCULTURED SWINE.
>>739312318Only the ones that double up as battery chargers.
You need an amp for those. They literally cannot drive themselves. Otherwise they sound muffled.
>>739312543you need a amp for a lot of these headphones. That the part they leave out to new guys with headsets
Fun fact that not all schizos might know, you can turn any headphones into a microphone by just changing the input, they are essentially the same structure.My question is, has someones used mics as headphones? The image coming to my head is pretty funny.
Shoutout to Anime Girls with Headphones.One of my favourite genres fr fr.
>>739311789chinkshit is still chinkshit, they literally produce more drek than anybody else on the planet. as for bt audio its still a fucking joke, and i have the snoy 4th gen wireless headset, wmx or whatever.
>>739312953hairy armpits
>>739312769No but my landline phone turned into a speaker one time when I was a kid. Got scared and thought aliens were coming but apparently there ware just radiowaves acting up or some shit.
>>739265870Bluetooth headphones will always sound like shit no matter how much money you spend on them because they are restricted by the limitations of bluetooth. It gets even worse when you start getting into gamer headsets with the shitty dollarstore microphones tacked on.A pair of $50 wired headphones and a $25 mic will outperform a $1000 gaymer headset literally every time
I cannot believe Tomoko is using normie headphones...REEEEEEEEE
>>739271676whenever I see this, get jealous of peple with money, my dirty diy headphones with electrostatic drives always had problems>see all current sound consumer products>all shit>all expensive>mfw
>>739313058Trvke.
>>739313001My man.
>>739312543lollmao evennot falling for your bait
>>739313097>electrostatic drivesAren't those fucking expensive and require a special amp?
>>739313479yeshence the stax meme
>>739288085you could be like me and randomly get sudden sensisoneural hearing loss, and end up with hearing loss + tinnitus in one ear and perfect hearing in the other.
>>739306105brother, don't belittle me, I know the difference between shit bass, too much bass and no bass, I'm over 30 and used better tier headphones for most of my life
>>739313479That's why I said diy (do it yourself), buying cheap worldwar2 surplus it was a real surprise. >special ampOnly used old home theater systems and it worked nice, the psycho trances were the best, opera like music was the best to listen
