>>739290080
It's amazing

Great game let down by lack of long term content support.
It also ruins vanilla Elden Ring because traversal and combat just feels so much better in Nightreign.

>>739290080
didnt buy, dont care for that multiplayer shit

>>739290154
You can play it solo.

>>739290195
>no story
>no exploration
>fixed loadouts etc
meh that kinda sounds miserable

>>739290131
no one's ported nightreign's vaulting into normal elden ring, and even then the level design of non-outdoor areas wasn't meant for it(also vaulting on the fire chariots to instapop them without supporting terrain feels a bit busted)

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>>739290080
>bird or scholar
>Libra
>everdark Libra
>nah

>>739290080
Randomized gear and Fortnite-style map shrinking is too damn stressful for me. Elden Ring is a comfort game for me, and I did not experience any comfort playing Nightreign.

>>739290337
>>no story
Who cares about the story anyway in a fromsoft game aside from unemployed people
>>no exploration
By the time you get to Lyndell exploration becomes a chore
>>Fixed load out
Weapon affinities are a meme, and the game offers enough characters to play as any class you want

>>739290664
idk I thought about buying it but who literally has any time to play multiplayer games after work? don't really want to buy it for a couple of play sessions then uninstall but if it had a good story mode where I could save and quit for a while then get back in I would definitely play
I'll just wait and see if duskbloods is any good

>>739290664
honestly the most fun about soulsgames now is exploration for me

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>>739290080
>Favorite Nightfarer?
the cutest one

>Favorite Nightlord?
everdark gladius and everdark heolstor

>Hardest Nightlord?
everdark libra

>Did you solo it?
lol

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>>739290080
I like it. I like how many Elden DOGSHIT Ring newcomers, tourists, casuals and posers got filtered by Nightreign.

Armored Core VI Fires of Rubicon > Sekiro > Bloodborne > Nightreign (Solo play only) > DaS2 > DaS:PTDE > DeS (2009) > DaS3 > Shit > Elden DOGSHIT Ring

>Favorite Nightfarer?
Wylder and Duchess.
>Favorite Nightlord?
Fulghor Champion of Nightglow and Libra, Creature of Night
>Hardest Nightlord?
None of them, I am too good.
>Did you solo it?
Yes, Solo play only.

>>739290080
A fun game, but it kinda felt like it never quite made that final leap to be great.
The game desperately needed to be more random and allow more weird unusual builds with a lot of synergies.
And secondly, I am absolutely shocked that they never added the weapons or other content from SotE. I fully expected them to drop after a few months, maybe with the DLC, but nothing. What a waste.
>>Favorite Nightfarer?
Wylder by far. Once you get used to the grappling hook movement, it's impossible to go back. I also liked the Recluse and the big STRnigga, forgot his name.
>>Favorite Nightlord?
I liked Fulgor and Adel the most.
>>Hardest Nightlord?
Definitely, by far, absolutely no comparison - everdark Libra. Hard to the point of feeling like unfun bullshit to me.
>>Did you solo it?
Yeah. I generally prefer playing singleplayer games, but in this case the companions you would get teamed up with made for the largest part of the "randomness" of each run, so multi was just more interesting.

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Most fun bosses to replay?

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>>739290080
smol, but fun
>wylder
>caligo
>everdark libra
>i did not

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>>739290080
>Favorite Nightfarer?
recluse, i can barely use her solo or on the deep difficulties though. all of them are pretty cool though. i have a habit of just randomly picking who i use.
>Favorite Nightlord?
normal libra. i think he is one of the best modern fromsoft souls bosses even.
>Hardest Nightlord?
ED libra. to contrast with normal libra, i absolutely hate this version.
>Did you solo it?
i've managed to beat every boss solo, yes. ED libra and balancers were the hardest ones to solo to me. ED libra because he is ED libra and balancers because mohg kept showing up and he's actually harder than both versions of them to me.

>>739292067
>>739292212
>>739292310
What is the hardest overall class?

>>739290080
Absolutely incredible. I just want more map variations and sote weapons officially added to the game.

Can I just cheat on PC if I can't solo it?

>>739292889
Just do it who cares. I'll only ask that you don't take it to multiplayer because that's lame.

>>739292834
>Favorite Nightfarer?
They're all super fun I can't pick.
>Favorite Nightlord?
Libra. It would have been Straghess but they have a few of his attacks as "spectacle", namely the melee flurry where you genuinely just have to stand there and he'll flail around and miss you completely.
>Hardest Nightlord?
ED Libra
>Did you solo it?
Nope. Multiplayer is too fun.

>>739290080
Game that I thought would be meh at best but it quickly became the most fun I've had in a souls game, even though it's heavily flawed riddled with bizarre decisions and disappointing missed opportunity. I liked it so good I'm actually praying they'll make a second one and actually commit to a live service monetization model so they have actual economic incentive to continue to support it and release new shit for it. Everything about the game as it is feels like a barebones test for what would be the actual live service version of this, from having a whole skin system that they bizarrely never added any more to, to the depths modifiers stuff being weirdly underdeveloped and underutilized.
Also they overbuffed some things with the DLC. Skill damage is just so busted it trivializes even the hardest content the game has to offer. When I can hit a boss for 5k damage from half the arena away with Through & Through and that's not even close to being the best shit in the game it's a problem.
ALSO WHERE THE FUCKING FUCK ARE THE SOTE WEAPONS SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING

>Favorite Nightfarer?
Don't really have a favorite. Probably Raider, though I played more Wylder in the end for the blue bar.
>Favorite Nightlord?
Libra balls
>Hardest Nightlord?
ED Libra before the DLC made bullying him (and every NL) too easy.
>Did you solo it?
No. I was bored to tears every time I tried solo runs.

Played it for like 10 hours. In these 10 hours, at least a half of my runs had exactly the same layout of locations and variations were minor to begin with.
Cooldown based gimmicks are a fucking disgrace for fromsoft who specifically avoided this type of slop design for nearly 20 years.
All you're paying for is essentially one new weapon moveset per weapon type via the nightfarers, plus a bunch of new bosses you will only see after 30 minutes of repeated content. I'm a rabid fromsoft fanboy but this was too much even for me, this shit is embarrassing and should cost 20 bucks at most.

>>739293040
You're paying for "roguelite by From Software" you silly, not just new bosses.

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>>739292574
my vote's for guardian. he feels like the most specialized character out of all of them and the least versatile. everyone else feels like they can play outside their intended box but guardian feels mega gimped if you aren't always playing by his rules. and his rules aren't very great since he is built around blocking in a post-DS1 souls game. (even though greatshields themselves were very strong in normal elden ring to me). he's a cool birdman though and i've salvaged some pretty dire runs with him before.

It has roguelike rules doesn't it?

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>>739290080
game sucks

>>739293063
>roguelite by From Software
Extremely bad roguelite, one of the worst i've ever seen. Everything regarding the actual roguelite rules is fucking terrible, it doesn't seem the game has a true RNG map generation, just a number of premade seeds like they did with chalice dungeons, but with even less variation.
Moreover, i fought all these enemies for thousands of hours at this point.

the nightlords are mostly cool but literally everything else about the game sucks. would've been better structured as not a battle royale-like and had more maps/variations and build possibilities. the game is way too static. once you've killed your first nightlord you've seen basically everything. the shifting earths are such nothingburgers and them being on rotation is wetawded

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>>739290080
Pretty positive all in all.
I wish it was real Live Service slop to get infinite content, but I still got a good 150 hours out of it with friends before we checked out fully bored.
The DLC though was an extreme disappointment thanks to the lack of Shadow weapons/miracles/etc. I wasn't a fan of the new map's layout or gimmick either.
The relic gacha system fucking sucked
>Favorite Nightfarer?
Revenant is my favorite to play, but I probably played more Recluse the further I went into Depths since she can carry the hardest with Crystallian shotgun.
>Favorite Nightlord
Libra
Fantastic design, fun gimmick, and an evil nigger of an Everdark to fight. He also has one of the rare Elden Bing themes that's actually memorable
>Hardest Nightlord
Everdark Sentient Pest far and away spanked my ass the most.
>Did you solo it?
Some nightlords, but not all of them.

>>739292113
Heolster is fun, and I have a sweet spot for bullying Augur with randoms by trying to kill him in as few casts of giga-focused

>>739292574
Probably Executor or Scholar since they require far more effort for less obvious impact than others
Wylder and Ironeye are two of the most forgiving and fucking strong.
Recluse isn't nearly as hard as she may initially seem. Cocktails are a meme compared to standing in Terra Magica, stacking magic damage and school relic buffs, and throwing nukes.
You really just draw essence to refill mana and throw cocktails out to reload more mana to get back to casting the good shit

>>739292889
The randoms in Nightreign matchmaking are generally pretty good bro, just matchmake if you aren't a pirate.
Generally you'll have at least one guy pinging the map to steer you if you're green and directionless
If you do cheat, make sure you set it up so it can't play online and disable Easy Anti Cheat from booting or you may catch a ban that demands you delete your save or you'll catch a bigger ban
You can still play with friends and match with cheater queue

>roguelike
>nothing changes run to run
bravo

I had already burned out on the game by the time the DLC came out.
Is it good?

>>739292574
It's Guardian without a doubt, and it's entirely because of his gimped dodge. His entire design is wack for the kind of game this is, but you could ignore all that and just play him like a standard melee if it weren't for him having a far worse dodge than anybody else in the game by a pretty big margin.

>>739293251
The DLC is terrible and it hasn't changed outside of getting said DLC. Take that as you will

>>739293125
>Extremely bad roguelite, one of the worst i've ever seen
I've only played Nuclear Throne, Risk of Rain, Risk of Rain 2, modded Risk of Rain, modded Risk of Rain 2, and Elden Ring Nightreign is completely amazing. These aren't bad games I've played, but they lack the production values inherent to a studio like From Software, and well playing Souls games in Limveld and the Great Hollow is a far cry from 2d characters running left and right.
>doesn't seem to have true RNG
That's true, but that's probably difficult at this scale with their experience. It works for me but I can see it doesn't for you.
>fought all these enemies for thousands of hours at this point
But not in this context, hence the From Software roguelite.

>>739293339
>production values
In other words you want a spectacle, not a game. Every game in your list BTFOs Nightrein and costs half as much at most.
>difficult at this scale with their experience
Yet they charge more for this shit than any roguelike on the market.
>But not in this context
What "context", the "run the fuck away from them on a featureless limgrave expy" context? No thanks, i would rather fight them in games they were designed for.

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>>739290080
I like it alot but the post launch support is disappointing
No dlc weapons… No everdark Heolster or Strahgess…
DoN has given me a love hate relationship with the game. I live the build crafting with double relics but the rank system is so frustrating, even though I have a 75% win rate, you lose so many points for a loss, especially early on that it just kills the fun I have. Especially this playerbase of quitters, Ive also noticed the skill level getting worse over time.

I play every character in D5 except Scholar and Guardian, probably my best is Executor
Fave boss is Heolster

>>739290080
best game ever, actual fun like i didn't have in years
>>Favorite Nightfarer?
they're all good, i'm split between wylder/revenant
>>Favorite Nightlord?
everdark fulghor
>>Hardest Nightlord?
for me, dreglord
>>Did you solo it?
never. the fun is in coop

>>739293405
>In other words you want a spectacle, not a game.
Nightreign is a game and has spectacle. This isn't binary, I know you're smart enough to know that.
>Every game in your list BTFOs Nightrein and costs half as much at most.
Spectacle matters, which those games lack. Shadow of the Colossus wouldn't be what it is without its spectacle. Ditto Ico, Metal Gear Solid, Half-Life, etc.
>What "context", the "run the fuck away from them on a featureless limgrave expy" context?
Yes. That context matters. Again, I know you're smart enough to know these things.

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>>739293434
Hardest boss is Everdark Libra given the randomness idk how that’s debatable

Everdark Harmonia may be second but there’s a clear strat of separating them that makes the fight more manageable.

Ive soloed every boss with every character but 99% of my time is playing with others as the game is designed. There are instances solo where the game just feels straight ass.

>>739290080
I like it but gets old fast I don’t see coming back in after 100 hours which is really not that bad.
Just feels like they could do so much more

>>739293494
>Nightreign is a game and has spectacle
It's a shit game whose only selling point is "dude look at these spectacle bosses".
>Spectacle matters
Case in point.

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>>739292574
Prepatch Revenant and not finding a single damaging incantation
>that nev
Yes it fucking did, fix how dormant powers work Fromsoft

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>>739293596
Let's agree to disagree anon. I know you're smart enough to do that, too.

>>739290080
It’s been a year already?

>>739290080
>forced coop was trash
>coop in a open world game just simply doesnt work

>>739293684
it's not forced, you can solo, and the coop worked great wtf are you smoking

>>739293071
I think Scholar is worse overall but you are right about versatility, you can make a decent arcane skill build with him or sort of do things with items (though they nerfed the pot build)

Birb has some good matchups but man even with the str-dex relic his kit just doesnt help him put the numbers out like other characters

>>739290080
Feels like the type of game that would have been on the 3DS/ PSP a decade ago and I've always had a soft spot for these janky handheld spinoff type games.

Either way spidermaning around with Wylder's grapple hook is some of the most fun I've had in From soft game in years

>>739293665
this is "announcing report" levels of lebbit newfaggotry holy shit kill yourself

>>739290080
Does the gameplay really work solo though? I sort of took it as the bosses being somewhat similar to say Monster Hunter's later quests like the big red and gold dragon where the numbers simply aren't there for you to be able to realistically solo them and have a good experience

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Getting Great Hollow in DoN makes me groan so audibly it can be heard through the walls
>more running between pois so you get less done
>fewer to no specific pois to make use of certain relics
>fewer spots to get seals/staves/shards/stones and the ones that are there are spread out and you can’t reliably path to them or you are being very unoptimal about getting boss drops or big crystals
>50:50 on the circle closing on the other side making you waste time getting over there
>stater area is much harder and you’ll spend more time just getting levels compared to the normal map
>more time and effort to get guarenteed talismans
And you can get this for any boss, it was really fun in the normal game mode though, power is fun too.

The upside is you can get more total drops if you are moving and grooving but if you have a group who can do that then you were im good hands anyway and are probably gonna beat the boss.

>>739293761
>think Scholar is worse overall
Scholar is absolutely cracked. Pot scholar is the protagonist of every run that's immune to RNG (even after the nerf). He scales exceptionally well with depths as the harder enemies hit the more valuable his crab buff becomes. His dex respec relic line solves his damage problem and he retains his good arcane. His damage buff is always good. He gets the most stamina in the game. He's a top 3 character in terms of power in my eyes, his only downside is he's pretty meh for skill damage stacking because he's so hungry for his unique relic effects that you need actual insane (maybe even impossible?) godroll relics to have double balancers + all the shit he wants.

Are there any news on updates?
There were rumours of new weapons slots added, but those were like right after dlc released.
Maybe something on gamefest?

>>739293638
i fixed that with hoarfrost stomp on the claws

>>739290080
>Favorite Nightfarer?
Either Raider or Ironeye. Guardian was good to start with but I got better at learning attack patterns so dodging was better at that point.
>Favorite Nightlord?
Everdark Caligo / Libre. I like ED Caligo because that is the only ED boss I got good at fighting and the only ED I can solo. Libre is fun.
>Hardest Nightlord?
Everdark Libre. Absolute hell. The only boss that I've only beaten once and it took 30 tries.
>Did you solo it?
Can solo all regular nightlords. EDs are a different story.

>>739293946
Yes they are for certain characters and certain bosses but youll be in a scenario every once in a while that makes you hate yourself for being solo.

It’s still fun to make goofy builds to run, especially ones that rely on specific rng drops so you dont feel bad running to random places looking for one thing (carian slicer). Solo is more freeing in that regard.

But having aggro and reviving from
Teammates really makes it more manageable despite solo giving auto revives and reducing enemy health.

>>739294067
Director Ishizaki stated that the bulk of their team was being moved to support The Duskbloods. Bamco and From Software's social media accounts are posting Nightreign as we near the 1 year anniversary, but nobody should expect anything.

>>739293997
honeslty bad take outside pathing for seals/staves
agree on that

hollow is very fun

>>739293946
The game scales health down based on how many players in are in a run, and you get a bunch of extra revives when playing solo. If anything, solo is actually easier if you game.
Too bad solo is boring and soulless.

>>739294076
Caligo also has the best music in the game.

>>739294065
He is perfectly viable for the stated reasons but having a wylder/exec/raider/duchess/Undertaker skill build and being able to get a decent thwack off of half the stuff you find is too helpful.
Scholar really only shines with someone who knows how to use him and have good map knowledge but that same player is just as effective if not more with another character

>>739294076
Caligo was my favorite and then after 1200 hours she is my least favorite she fucking moves everywhere has weird hitboxes on projectiles, has too many aoes and takes too long too kill unless you have a good team then who cares a good team kills any boss fast

>>739294118
It is very fun it’s just ass to get in DoN, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze

>>739290080
It exposes Miyazaki's true intent with his now dogshit franchise. He just wants to make fast paced hack n slashes.

>>739294264
>but having a wylder/exec/raider/duchess/Undertaker skill build and being able to get a decent thwack off of half the stuff you find is too helpful.
Correct and the post you're replying to corroborates this point.
>Scholar really only shines with someone who knows how to use him and have good map knowledge but that same player is just as effective if not more with another character
Correct but he's also the character best equipped to help your teammates excel too. A scholar who knows his shit is practically guaranteeing you're getting to day 3 at max level with runes to spare and a bunch of extra negation to make everyone more survivable.

>>739294412
Miyazaki did not direct Nightreign.

>>739294115
Was Nightreign just a tech demo for The Duskbloods?

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>>739290080
>solo sucks because it's designed around multiplayer
>multiplayer sucks because everyone is retarded

>>739294941
Very likely yes, but also objectively no. The Duskbloods is on record for having been in development sometime during or after Sekiro, and was originally on the Switch before being moved to the Switch 2. As far as objective reality, Ishizaki had an idea for a multiplayer game typical of medium, the shrinking circle, and roguelite elements. Miyazaki said yes, and since Elden Ring was in development and a ways along, they used that as the base. Dataminers have found that Elden Ring Nightreign actually shipped with early Elden Ring coding and ideas, such as the Ancestral Followers being associated with rot, and weapons with elements being able to be buffed anyway.

The very likely yes part comes in because while it's not on record that NR is testing DB's multiplayer elements, we have Occam's Razor. Both are games with a focus on multiplayer, DB was in development first, and NR is a relatively low stakes investment since it reuses more assets than normal.

The maps not being more randomized, both the terrain and types of structures makes it super stale very quickly. Add in that day 1 and 2 bosses are from a pool based on nightlord, and it becomes predictable too much

>>739290080
unimaginable betrayal, instead of raping the seamless coop fags with life ruining legal action to set an example they went and made an official cooptranny title.

Is bait suppose to be this obvious?

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>>739290080
it sux
I have no idea why fromsoft is trying so hard to double down on the worst parts of any souls game (multiplayer and combat) while neglecting that which made souls actually good like the exploration, atmosphere and character building

>>739296037
NR has character building in spades. But it's true that they keep dropping good ideas for no reason like covenants or six player games.

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This explains Nightreign's ending a lot more.

>>739296206
wtf is this real

>>739290080
I liked it way more than I thought I was going to. Also managed to get to depth 5 with randos and was satisfied and stopped playing.
>Favorite nightfarer?
Wylder, Undertaker and Scholar
>Favourite Nightlord?
Everdark Fulghor
>Hardest Nightlord?
Everdark dog, I am just bad against him
>Did you solo it?
I mostly played with randos cause the game is built around multiplayer but I have done and completed a couple of solo runs

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Enjoyed it a lot.
The general idea is fine, just want more refinement in terms more seeds/more maps, add more weapons, more PoIs, more bosses and better communication methods (image if you can hold down the ping button on the map and draw a route until you let go of it).
Some sort of character upgrades outside of relics would be nice. Spend 1m murk/200 Everdark sigils to get an talisman pouch (max of 4 slots) per character.
Rather shit that everyone is forced into deep of night since newer players are boned trying to get any games.
META will destroy the game. The amount of people pinging a night invader PoI before we even land is soul crushing.
Also boss gauntlet where after beating a nightlord you can carry on to another nightlord fight with your current gear until your team gets defeated.
The joys a team of randoms becoming the Fellowship of the Elden Ring is unmatched.

Kinda wish they would update it one last time, I've been getting the urge to come back. I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.

what are the chances they announce a dlc or a new update at the summer game fest?

>>739298021
It's been way too long with no updates, they're done with the game.
I guess the anniversary on may 30th is the last chance for them to announce anything

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>>739290080
I enjoyed it. An arcadey experience with some of the best boss fights in the series.
But it getting dropped after one dlc is pretty disappointing, with the potential they could've gone in on.

No proper Caelid map. No Crumbling Farum Azule. No Nightmare Frontier.
Nothing really featuring the biomes from Shadow of the Erdtree.
No chaos nigga class. Still missing a ton of weapons.

They could've pumped out more cheap content and asset flips, and I would've eaten it up.

>>739298467
Yeah, hate to say it but I would have enjoyed more middling-effort updates. It's almost funny how I think 'why aren't they giving me MORE slop'
I just enjoy the core of the game enough, and up through like D3 is very fun with randos.

>>739298467
Bratty tsundere to lover is the best category.

>>739290080
>executor
>base libra
>everdark balancers
>yeah, because soloing is easier than teamplay
good music. good bosses. i wish there were more variations in gameplay instead of night bosses and some locations and events being hard-tied to the endboss of the run. i think there's plenty of good to pick up from nightreign, especially the soft-gimmick fights to spice up things from being "big guy with a sword"
hopefully the next game after duskbloods is a proper pve singleplayer focused game
>muh cerulean onslaught
fake and gay

>>739290080
Incredible game. Had to force myself to stop playing because I was that fun and addictive desu, and there's nothing to unlock.
>Favorite Nightfarer
They're all great. My favourite used to be Raider but alas he wasn't tuned well for the deep of night so I ended up just playing Wylder the most.
>Favorite Nightlord
Libra. Amazing soundtrack, amazing fights. Amazing design.
>Hardest Nightlord
I'd say ED Libra but if you manage to get the right stuff during the game it's significantly less harder than people think. Honestly prior to Haloslop ED Gladius was the bane of my soul.
>Did you solo it
I did beat every Nightlord solo once just for the sake of it, but multiplayer is where it's at.
>>739298812
D5 (when not infested by cheating chinks) was the most fun I've had. People at the level know how to play.
>>739297697
>The joys a team of randoms becoming the Fellowship of the Elden Ring is unmatched.
You and me both my man. There were times me and a rando got hard, hard fucking carried by a standard build Recluse that somehow won solo against the draconic trio (while we got our ass downed the entire fight) and then against Heolstor.
Then there was a time in D5 we were against ED Gnoster and my teammates had a lot of trouble keeping up, when we reached the 20 minute fight mark I started dying myself and in real time the other two blokes were started playing better and better, copying my tactics until we won
People complain about the lack of communication but honestly that's the best part.

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>>739298812
There's just so much stuff I would've love to run at with randoms, and things I want to see from classes to objectives. Imagine if for one map instead of Fortnite Circles, you had to run your ass across the rotting desert, dragon barrow, and crowfuck alley to participate in the Radahn Festival in time.

Live service is dumb, and I hate battlepasses. But I still love me good dlc/expansion packs that indulge in the mud I want.

>>739290080
I've yet to play it becuase it

>>739299554
>Tempts you into ruining the world
>Doesn't tempt you with sex
Anyone who went this route is a moron.

>>739298021
Honestly who knows, it could be dead or they could announce something to stir up hype and attention in time for their next release whether it be tarnished edition, duskbloods or whatever else.

>>739290080
>Honest thoughts on Nighreign 1 year later?
absolute kino, way better than i expected
>Favorite Nightfarer?
executor
>Favorite Nightlord?
hard to choose, heolstor or ed gladius i guess
>hardest nightlord
i get raped by ED bugs on DoN on the regular
>did you solo it
sometimes at first
>>739290337
>>739293684
niggas that have no idea whats going on in a videogame should be banned from speaking about the videogame
>>739290770
isnt this the other way around? You can literally just queue with randoms, or if you have friends, get into a game pretty instantly, it takes like 1 minute. Then you do a quick 40-50 minute run (assuming successful) and call it a day if you want
>>739296037
>i cant believe a dev makes different games with different appeals instead of endlessly making the same game ad infinitum

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>>739299747
Everyone who took this route did so in a convoluted way to either save, or set up the best girl to kill you in the next game.

Which I'm still mad Melina doesn't even acknowledge stuff like Miquella's needle. And especially that she didn't even feature anything in Shadows of the Erd Tree.

>>739290080
>>Favorite Nightfarer?
Executor, feels great when you're the last guy standing and you parry like 20 attacks, transform and roar everyone back to life. I liked pretty much everyone but Wylder and Raider though.
>>Favorite Nightlord?
Libra by design but I think his fight actually sucks, Heolstor and Fulghor are my favorite to fight
>>Hardest Nightlord?
Tricephalos, fucked up that they made him the mandatory first boss with all his awkward fire hitboxes and crowding you out when he splits
>>Did you solo it?
No, I tried solo runs once or twice but they really weren't fun, it kind of exemplifies the worst shit about the regular souls games where you just dodge a million times to wait for openings to line up and then oneshot everything with an OP weapon. Juggling aggro with other people while attacking more consistently is a lot more engaging.

>>739290080
It was goty for actual video game enjoyers

>>739299958
When you take a scrutinizing eye to Elden Ring it really does fail in many places. Melina meeting Messmer again, Melina's thoughts on Miquella's needle, bringing Melina to Trina, etc.

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>>739290770
Sessions of Night-Reign are honestly like 30-40 minutes a round. Sometimes less, because the day cycles have pretty strict time limits before it forces you to fight a boss.

It's pretty arcadey. You'll spend more time trying to pick up how gear stat stacking works, and what optimal map routes to take.

I'm not the biggest fan of the fortnite circles, however. And I wish there was a way to extend the time limit. Especially on the Great Hollow map. I still feel like there's parts of that I don't know, and rarely ever get the chance to see because the time limit is super tight.

>>739300068
i started liking wylder a lot more once i did this
>fire greatsword followup attack
>flaming strike ash
>hopefuly 2 grapples with bleed
>some knowledge and options on whether i wanna go for ashes, or buffing dash attacks (which includes the grapple followups), charge attacks, or just generic raw damaeg
from that point onwards i have a very fun early game and plenty of time to focus on a more interesting lategame

>Favorite Nightfarer?
1. Executor
2. Undertaker

Honorable mentions to Wylder, Raider, Duchess who are also fun but not my top picks. I'm terrible at Recluse but love her magic cocktail mechanic.

>Favorite Nightlord?
Heolstor, Dreglord, and Fulghor

>Hardest Nightlord?
Everdark Libra and Everdark Gladius are tied.

>Did you solo it?
I've solo'd every boss in normal mode, but not in Deep of Night. In DoN I'm at Depth 5, almost hit 9999.

I fucking love this game. Wish it had another DLC or something.

>>739290131
>combat just feels so much better in Nightreign.
how

>>739300068
I wish you didn’t get instantly raped in DoN for using his Ult, ive really tried to save runs but sometimes your ass is too fat and the boss will kill you before you rez your 3bar retards

>>739300719
Better jumping, the super sprint feels better than summoning torrent, better dodges for most of the cast, more actions available at any time with the character abilities, almost everything about the basic gameplay is an improvement.

>>739300719 More mobile but also character gimmicks let you have fun in different ways with the exact same weapon

>>739300880
They updated the dog form a while ago to scale with depths so it's no longer suicide, if you have a taking damage negate on top you can be pretty much certain you'll never get killed.

>>739300719
Sprint is a massive one, adds a fuck load of depth to your defensive options. A lot of attacks can flat out be sprinted, which makes the game less centralized around roll i frames, which is a good thing.

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I wish they would reuse some of the character skill/ult ideas in their next game. Like magic cocktail or raider’s tank stance

>>739290080
i didn't play it because it's not a real game. when is fromsoft actually going to make another game?

>>739301193
It’s unironically better to run out of Libra’s baited aoes instead of dodging them

>Favorite Nightfarer?
Recluse and Ironeye (I like range). Although the Scholar is super intriguing. Just the analysis feels super slow, feels awkward to use it during bosses instead of trying to do damage.
>Favorite Nightlord?
Libra
>Hardest Nightlord?
Meh they all have their gimmicks
>Did you solo it?
No.

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>>739290080
>started playing the DLC literally today after buying it at launch
>haven't played the game in months
>feel like I've forgotten everything
I just wanna bash niggas heads in as my qt wife without feeling like a jackass.

>>739301193
What stops you from sprinting in Elden Ring
>No you don't get it, I need to put 500 meters of distance between me and the attack

>>739300719
>fancy character skills are outstanding
>fast sprint
>some more interesting and dynamic ways to get bonuses
>being more familiar with the enemies and rushing them against the timer trying to be efficient
>way more incentive for aoe, status effects and all that
>honestly better controls
the only bad part is the removal of crouching which includes easy access to rolling attacks

>>739290080
Great game but after you've killed them all nothing left to do. Wish they would add more content, I'd even pay for another DLC.

>>739301362
sprinting in elden ring
>its slower
>does not allow as much freedom and sharp evasion or repositioning
the surge sprint in nightreign
>its faster and burns through more stamina
>dedicated input so no delay whatsoever
>some character skills will slide you if you surge sprint into them
>lets you do way more
>still want to sprint normally? you can do that just fine

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>>739290080
I just wish we got a dragon class and more weapons...
>recluse (when I don't suck dick) otherwise wylder
>caligo (I want to hold her talons and marry her)
>ED dogs atm when it comes to solo
>mainly solo player and got DON maxed out (it was a horrible experience never ever again)

played the network test and felt like I saw literally everything there was to see in it, so I didn't buy it.

>>739301470
oh forgot to mention
>enables monumentally better and more fun gigaboss movesets than anything in elden ring

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>>739298467
>But it getting dropped after one dlc is pretty disappointing, with the potential they could've gone in on.
Wait, they've already confirmed that they're done adding content to the game? Damn...

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>>739290080
Love it.
>Favorite Nightfarer?
Wylder. He's just too good at everything, and the grapple movement is glorious.
>Favorite Nightlord?
Heolstor. He is just so fucking cool.
>Hardest Nightlord?
Everdark Libra. Still have not got a clear. Bane of my depths runs.
>Did you solo it?
Hell no. 3P all the way.

>>739301471
Dragon communion incants suck so much balls in this game because of the startup and active frames I want a dragon class to augment them potentially

>>739290080
Slop. Waste of time. Sign of declining company.

>>739301767
friendless guy detected

>>739290080
it has the best females of soulsshit

>>739290080
rollslop

>>739301705
Yeah I was kinda hoping the gimmick would be like
>way faster cast times
Or
>reworked where certain incantation casts contribute to your new "dragon meter" allowing you to fully transform temporarily
And since we already have dex arcane classes the dragon class can be the strength arcane class

>>739301724
Well atleast you dont gotta worry about being one shotted lol

Some of the everdarks are so fuckin' cool. They remind me of Demon's Souls.

>>739300719
Character ults and skills are massive game changers. Hell, even surge sprinting makes repositioning a lot easier and fluid.

You have characters like executor who can deflect 98% of all attacks, Duchess with her enhanced dodges, Raider can take a trade with any attack (except grabs), Wylder has fast movement + can pull enemies towards him, Scholar has a Universal Parry that is pretty underused, Recluse magic cocktails is completely unique for a pure caster in these games. The list goes on, and I didn't even mention how some character Ults interact with each other, for example, while Ulting, Executor can heal himself with melee attacks while scholar's Ult is active. Otherwise the only way for executor to heal with his ult active is to use the roar relic.

>>739300880
Its really tough to use in DoN for sure. The best strategy I found for using it to pick up teammates is this:

>position yourself near your downed teammate or teammates
>with suncatcher out, try to get their bar as low as possible (suncatcher uses NO stamina)
>when the boss is about to pounce on you, Ult immediately for both the i-frames from the transformation, and the attack frames from the transformation with help bring down your teammate's bars
>after transforming, try to run away from the boss, and spam roar at a safe distance

I highly suggest you don't transform during a big boss combo, because it will be impossible to get away from the boss without getting staggered / killed. Only transform when they are in recovery frames.

>>739300719
Bows are a huge improvement in nightreign, even when not playing ironeye.

>>739302030
yeah, they did an excellent job with almost all of them. Fulghor is one of my favorite Souls bosses.
I really think supersprint, while it wouldn't fit in an older Souls game, really helped shape their creativity.

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All the bosses are fucking awesome (except tricephalos; that boss is kinda lame) but man, this new DLC boss is especially awesome. I haven't beaten her (or them? idk whats going on here) but holy shit, that backdrop is gorgeous and the fight is crazy

>>739302612
I think tricephalos is a great boss, he has one of the best soundtracks and great presentation. Sure he's easy, but he's the mandatory first boss. Besides, they made up for it by making his Everdark version one of the hardest bosses in the whole game, period.

Yeah I love the balancers, they're really cool even if I get them way too much in Deep of Night. I also love the 2nd boss in the DLC, who unlocks after you beat the balancers.

>>739302612
you should do everdark balancers today and post about it in this thread

>All those anons saying Guardian is bottom tier
I just want to block, bros... Birds are cool...

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When i did everdark balancers for the first time I honestly basedjaked because I didnt know what I was expecting and they utterly shocked me with what they did with the atmosphere, music, and the fight

>>739303007
>I just want to block
>buffs executor
You rike?
>birds are cool
Yeah I wanted to play him because of that but I am not a fan of shields in souls games desu

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WHY DON'T YOU SHOW THAT YOU HAVE A WENDING GRACE BEFORE THE NIGHTLORD!!!

>>739303007
Nothing wrong with playing whatever you find fun. Just don't show up to DoN 3+

>>739303156
So you can be surprised babe

>>739303156
why do you care? it's mine

>>739303156
Aura farming when we all die and I clutch the boss. (I died a second time)

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>>739290080
An unexpectedly great time in what I thought would be complete shit I bought in a whim. It helps that the game has probably the best boss roster in all of Fromsoft’s catalog as far as quality consistency. Genuinely painful that most if not all of them will be forgotten with duskbloods. Speaking of that game, fuck it. Fromsoft should be supporting this game as its potential is not fully realised but they’re just dropping like a hot rock for what I imagine will be an inferior game but we will see.

>Favorite nightlord
Libra is just excellent. The best “mage” they’ve made by far with a dynamic move set, fair but strict moves and lot of character. Good ost and visual design seal the deal.

>Favorite everdark nightlord.
Adel’s everdark upgrade catapulted him from my among my least favorite to my number 1 favorite fight overall. Great move set, actually dodgeable, fair but strict and plain cool with his spinning jaw tornado being arguable the flashiest move in the game. The sheer terror and “grinding” of that electric guitar while he’s repeatedly smashing his head and you’re weaving in and out of it is the best of nightreign.

>Hardest nightlord.
It’s between the great retard filter ED Libra and the flame wave vomit spamming ED Gladius. Saying Libra feels obvious, so I’ll settle on the dog. He”s filled with annoying disjoints, his taunt has no clear tells so he gets a 3X boost and one shots the whole cast and he slams flame waves. That being said he eats shit to halo scythe spam but hey so does Libra!

>Did you solo it?
No it’s a game designed for multiplayer. That being said I’ve done several solo’s on regular with issue but on DOTN? Nah I’m good.

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>>739303030
>Webm
Many such cases.

>>739303007
He really is, though. If he could pull aggro effectively then I imagine he'd be a better party member, but as it stands I don't think I've ever had a good Guardian player in my party even a single time.

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>>739290080
>thoughts on Nighreign

Are the control mechanics different than Elden Ring? I tried playing at a friend's house and just couldn't get beyond the first few minutes. I felt really clumsy. I might pick it up again but the controls made me feel like I had no idea what I was doing even though I did three complete playthroughs of Elden Ring.

>>739303893
It takes some getting used since the characters have unique movesets.

>>739303893
They're an enhanced Elden Ring. Surge sprint and unique character movements add a great deal of fluidity to it, combined with broader jumps and more reactive dodges. You have to get used to whipping about the field because bosses are given hugefuck AoEs to compensate for the fact that they're all balanced for 3 players.

>>739290080
>Favorite Nightfarer?
Revenant is my favorite character. Undertaker is probably the most fun to play though.
>Favorite Nightlord?
Equilibrious Beast, regular version is fair and his moveset doesn't have too much of the usual bullshit like delayed attacks and other stuff you can actually dodge most of his stuff pretty easily so he feels good to fight you just have to watch for him summoning portals.
>Hardest Nightlord?
ED Equilibrious Beast, fight is a dumpster fire. Honestly most ED fights are pretty bad except maybe fulghor but even he has a 10 move long combo that is similar to waterfowl, ED maris is garbage.
>Did you solo it?
I've done a few of the fights solo, none of the ED fights. Playing solo isn't that fun its always more fun with a team of 3 even if sometimes they suck. Higher depths are hell though with bad players.

Nightreign is the modern Dark Souls 2

Misunderstood by fake fans LARPing that they know whats best for the series, while actively shitting on the games that actually move the series forward instead of regressing (DS3/ER)

>>739304238
The only thing DaS2 did right was the multiplayer. By extension, Nightreign also does the multiplayer well. DS2, DS3, and ER aren't bad games, but they can't hold a candle to the other FROM renaissance games.

>>739292574
guardian has highest understanding requirement

>>739291934
>solos
You didnt beat the game.
The entire allure of Souls co-op from its very inception is what Nightreign is

The fact NR doesnt have voicechat makes it a more purer souls game than DS2/ER etc

>>739304402
Holding a shield with the damage on block trait is definitely more complicated than having to actually learn scholar beyond pot spam. Definitely totally

Can Nightreign be solo'd?

>>739304496
Yes but you may as well just play Elden ring at that point

>>739304496
Yeah, and honestly I recommend using solo runs to try to wrap your head around the map. Otherwise you end up getting dragged around and not knowing what the fuck is going on.

>>739304443
cope co-op faggot.
Nightreign is a solo game, Junya Ishizaki plays the game solo relicless for the most challenge.
co-op is the easy mode for seamless co-op faggots like you.

>>739290510
Wonder if someone will mod all of Elden Ring into Nightreign, Tale of Two Wastelands style.

>>739304618
Trios are better for learning initially since you can follow more experienced players and pick up on their priorities and habits. I don't know how experienced the players are in regular modes now though.

>>739301519
>monumentally better and more fun gigaboss movesets
Mapwide AOE is not fun

>>739303664
What disappointed me most is Fire Giant phase 2, when he aims his tummymouth to the sky to fire meteors. I thought I was clever hiding under him, because surely he would provide cover from the projectiles. He did not. That boss just sucks ass in general though.

>>739303664
What a piece of shit game. I didn't bother finish it

>>739290080
nearly perfect game just dislike the BR gameplay loop doesn't really fit From Software boss design.

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>>739304857
>Junya Ishizaki plays the game solo relicless for the most challenge
No shit retard, play Elden Ring at lvl 1 fists only for the most challenge. You being scared of human interaction doesn't make it a solo game lol

I can almost guarantee you are the exact kind of person that will blame their team at the smallest inconvenience

>>739290664
If you don't care about the immersion and exploration aspects of these games (From themselves clear don't since ER either) then you're just playing a shitty 2 button rollyshlop game where you hold forward on an empty map and fight 35 recolored Zanzibarts. That's just depressing

>>739306389
I play games for fun.
I interact with real humans in real life.
You are deranged and coping.

Haven't regretted a purchase this bad in a long while. I killed every boss as least once with a friend, messed around solo and then never touched it again. When Duos came out, neither of us even wanted to pick it back up to even try it out.

>>739290080
The boss fights are mostly good but a bit generic but the 40 minutes of running around is a boring, unchallenging time wasting simulator outside of the meme hard mode that nobody played because it was added months later.

I really like the game being character based instead of build based. It's probably controversial but I've never thought builds add much of anything to souls games, leveling up just feels like a roadblock to use what you want in pve and then for pvp it's just minmaxing to get as much health as you can.
Having preset characters with much more interesting focuses is fun and I'd be interested to see how a regular souls game could do with that system.

reading this thread kinda makes me want to play again
I think I'll do a random solo run with wylder
I wonder if I even remember the controls

>>739302097
>You have characters like executor who can deflect 98% of all attacks
You have the deflect hardtear in elden ring no?

>>739301470
Sounds like you are bad at the game

>>739300719
L2/R2 as the second spell on catalysts
i wish i could put spells on catalysts in a menu similar to the ash of war one, up to 4 if 2handing so i can use all my buttons instead of a worthless block or bonk, in normal elden ring as spells are intentionally bound to catalysts here
i know there's a radial menu mod but it's not ideal

>>739303893
they are shuffled around compared to elden ring but you can costumize them on PC. AFter i got the hang of it i feel like its way better

>>739309612
what does skill have to do with "running at 99999km/h allows you to do more things than running at 10km/h"

>>739290080
It manages to be unfun even with friends which is certainly a feat

>>739306889
Human beings are typically capable of having fun with one another but yeah bro he's the deranged one

>>739313390
Then have actual real life interaction and fun with them in real life?
Why are you hiding behind online "interaction"?

>>739313870
Interacting with people you know in real life through a video game doesn't count as having fun in real life?

>>739300719
smoother it’s easily the best nu souls

Can anyone explain to me, in simple terms, how this game works.

I've played some Souls games, and what I like most is just going forward and seeing new terrains/enemies/bosses. That's it. I don't care about multiplayer. I don't care that much about finding crazy items as long I can kill stuff and keep going.

From what I understand, Nightreign is like a multiplayer rush to kill mini-bosses/bosses. How is the single player?

>>739290080
Game is fun but Everdark bosses and AOE spam aren't fun.

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>>739290080
I've been playing it a lot cause i got the premium version on xbox for $30 bucks

It's addicting because its Elden Ring. But its a little under baked. I wish there was more randomization, once you have about 20 hours you have seen almost everything in the game and every possible fort/castle/boss/asset the game has to offer. Its kind of the same every single time you play so the strategy to win is nearly the same every single time.

>>739314484
Kill guys fast, hope you get rare loot and good weapons, rush to get estus charges, maybe take a few risks and kill a boss while circle closes.

Singleplayer is a lot harder. The game is easiest with 2 players who know what they are doing and coordinate. The absolute fucking worse is playing with 3 players and 1 person is a noob and doesnt know what hes doing, honestly noobs completely ruin a run because you HAVE to know what you are doing at all times to win.

>>739313870
Why's it gotta be one or the other?

>>739315074
>because you HAVE to know what you are doing at all times to win.
In depth 5 sure, but in normal mode? Hell no, game is not nearly as difficulty as it would have to be for that
Solo normal mode is arguably easier anyway since you get extra runes, anybody half decent would be able to get to 15 pretty casually

>>739314484
the single player is the same but with changed values to compensate for the fact it's just you, casters are harder as you won't have a melee to help keep enemies off of you

>>739314607
The ED bosses are my favourite part of the game because they're so unique. I think there should be a system to enable shorter runs so you can try and learn new bosses with more frequent attempts.

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My thoughts? I think we are getting SOTE weapons and everdark Heolstor in 2(two) weeks

>AOE spam
>and invaders that can OHKO you
>and madness
I think the everdark goat is a bit overturned

>>739314249
Nope. Go bowling, go hunting, do something IRL.

>>739306749
That's very true. As someone who doesn't give a shit about the lore I never fully appreciated these games and thus didn't really get the appeal.
I still don't understand how people went from despising reading datalogs to acting like item descriptions are somehow any better. It used to be that people ridiculed a story for needing to have plot dumps in a tl;dr but now for some reason people celebrate it just because it's like an easter egg hunt. It's still the exact same to me but with literal extra steps.
Did people just... stop caring about presentation?

>>739315209
>1 guy doesn't know shit and does fuck all to help the team, just running around everywhere and not following markers
>Doesnt know how to get downed people up fast
>runs away from bosses that are almost dead just because the circle is getting close

Hard disagree. Noobs are the absolute worst, and usually ruin runs. It doesnt help that the game teaches you literally zero of its mechanics or whats important to do early run

>>739303030
>>739303664
its a tribute to shadow tower 1 on the psx. You fromsoft scrubs literally wouldnt understand.

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>>739290080
Really good, I got about 400 hours out of it which is 100 more than I did in Elden Ring
I think they did exceptionally well with music for the Nightlords, pretty much every one of them has a distinct and memorable theme that fits their visuals, which is in stark contrast to base Elden Ring that had maybe 3 good soundtracks, and I think Caligo's track is up there for the best individual piece of From music
>Favorite Nightfarer
Recluse because she's extremely erotic and I was actually good at her, unlike 90% of randoms that play her
>Favorite Nightlord
ED Darkdrift Knight for its cool mix of visuals, music, and how satisfying it is to be able to perfectly parry its combos as Executor
>Hardest Nightlord
ED Tricephalos or Equilibrious Beast because they're extremely overtuned numbers-wise on high depth level, basically impossible on certain characters unless you have close to a perfect run
>Did you solo it
A few times but it was kind of boring because of how easy it is, even if randoms mostly suck it's more engaging to play with other players unless they're the kind that are perma-dead

I gave the game a lot of shit for being a friendslop asset flip multiplayerslop completely with fortnite circle shit.

Its a good game for anyone that just wants to play a quick rougelike session of fromslop rpgs.
It came in the perfect time too, just when MHWilds shate the bed.

Duskblood bros, how are we feeling about getting cockblocked by nintendo?
I hope they will port it faster then Crapcum did with MHRise.

>>739316905
theres absolutely zero chance duskbloods will stay a nintendo switch 2 exclusive, nobody wants a switch 2. And nintendo adults literally *hate* difficult fromsoft games.

>>739293638
>Ghostbell go dingdingding
>Shit dies

I still use it in my relics.

>>739290080
its great except for the 50 minute long running around segment which makes me not want to play it

>>739301193
What is the point of regular run if you have sprint? The implementation of both seems silly since theres rarely a reason not to just sprint

>>739319172
Sprint instantly eats us a huge chunk of your stamina. If you only need to move a bit, it's better to just run.