ALL KNEEL TO EMPRESS CELINE
Post her ass
Post her tits
Céline if she real
>>739325128
seline if she down syndrome
Gameplay?
>>739325454>crotch bulge>no labial cleft
>>739325395egg looking bitch.
awakening lost
>>739321151>againyou literally never had an argument at any point. >>739321473>But open maps also encourage juggernauting, just in a different way.juggernauting is possible on open maps. on closed maps it is almost required.>having the stats to tank through the inevitable larger amount of hits your units will faceyou don't have to tank enemy hits if you kill them all in player phase. you keep talking about units being funneled through terrain, but how does this benefit you unless your plan is to park a high stat unit in the choke point and enemy phase them all? if you are trying to be proactive and kill as many enemies as possible during player phase the choke points are now working against you for he same reason they benefit you in enemy phase.
>>739325067My empress, wife, and bearer of my heirs.
Why didn't she secure Alfred's babies in her womb before he died of cancer? Is she stupid?
>>739325215>file not found.
using celine spray to clear my sinuses
Celine should get knotted
>>739325067
>>739325948>juggernauting is possible on open maps. on closed maps it is almost required.that's one hell of a generalization, and not even a logical one at thatIn general open maps encourage juggernauting more than closed maps do because there's very little stopping you from dropping your best unit into a group of enemies and pressing start. Well designed closed maps usually have it in a way so that one unit literally cannot do everything, like mages on the other side of a wall pelting your tank from guarding a chokepoint, or having multiple chokepoints you need to defend, or a thief coming in to steal an important chest that you have to hurry to catch.
>>739325513All weapon types should deal effective damage to certain classes, not just bows vs flyers.>Swords -> infantry>Lances -> cavalry>Axes -> armor>Bows and wind magic -> flyers>Fire magic -> beasts>Thunder magic -> dragons>Light magic -> monsters>Dark magic -> other mages (idk we'll workshop this one)
>>739328613closed maps are objectively more unfavorable for player phasing. the exact same elements that make it easier to defend make it harder to attack.
>>739328860Would make for a decently original romhack, but I can't see myself playing the main game like this. You would have to make sure that weapons are properly distributed too, but that just means importing all the Fates classes desu.
Celine cunny
>>739329209There were over 100 guards stationed outside her room every night so no one could taste the forbidden flower
>>739328860Oh cool even less of a reason to use anything other than mounts
>>739328860>anything being effective against infantryfuck off ROMhacker
>>739330670Even though infantry got massacred IRL by horsechads and ranged weapons
what a cool unit! i can't wait to use him (clueless)
>>739329542100 guards vs one horny anon
>>739330858Zieg still has a better character arc than any FE character to this day
Lilina please stop drinking Roy's semen and gain more speed. You'll need a second speedwing.
>>739330949>sad backstory (sad)>steals QT prime ginger pussyIs it that easy?
>hallwayfags think this is good map design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pih_B3suL9Q
>>739325067Celine should kneel for me.
>>739331170Yeah, I love dungeon crawlers.
>>739330858he's the strongest unit with the best growths and skillsthe hardest part of the game is runan's first route splitso if you bench him because of meta-knowledge you're handicapping yourself
>>739332106Zieg helps out on Runan's side of the split but Narron can do a lot of work there too. Just don't over do it and make sure you sack Shigen on one of the final maps before the two groups converge for early Sierra.
>>739331170This is Engage Xenologue 5.
>openfags think this is good map design
>>739333260Actually the Audacity tab means it's a closed map since cavalry take one extra mov to cross it.
>>739330971fat ass weighing her down
>>739333260needs starcraft and opera icons
>>739331170Conquest Ninja Cave
I got to battle before dawn and my will to keep playing FE7 instantly plummeted, this has happened multiple times and I don't understand why.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4736790/Tactics_Wanderer/First Fire Emblem clone to actually make SRPG Studio look like a decent engine?
>>739334637This same thing always happens to me but the map right before it. The shitty weather mechanic completely drains my will to continue.
>>739334637mmmmmmmyep, another filter
>>739334637>I don't understand whyFE7 is just in that twilight zone where it's both very easy, but also an incredible slog.
>>739334716definitely the first to use their own art with it
>is that a self-loathing, zero self-esteem twink? oh god my pussy is so wet
>>739335441There are real girls out there into that whole uwu softboy shtick.
>>739335441>>739335549The gimmick with Alcryst's group is that they all have self esteem issues. So Lapis liking him is not exactly impossible.
>>739335441>>739335549>>739335721you forgot the prince part
Awakening has gaiden maps
Nobody in this thread has ever beaten FE on normal difficulty.
>>739336036I beat my first FE on normal mode
I bought Warhammer 40k: Chaos Gate - Daemonhunters and will let you know how it stacks up in the genre in a few weeks.
Marriage with Marianne!
>>739336583wtf
>>739336583genuinely repulsing
>this is an 'open map' according to vfeg
>>739335549Not really, it's cope for little weak excuses for men.
>>739335441You forgot the part where he's royalty, if he was a commoner lapiss wouldn't give a shit
>>739336583>mariannetroon became raul
>>739336583Genuinely disgusting
Eh, don’t blame me I just post what I find.
>>739325067I'm still mad about the Engage DLCActually interesting versions of the cast and then they get turned into fucking zombies or some shit. Garbage
>>739337664And you have to replay it everytime you want to use the content.
>>739337664And it was still better than the main story.
>>739337750Grim
>>739337742Thankfully there's mods to skip that.
>>739325067Celine should be completely nude, exposing her ass for everyone to see
>>739337750that's not a high bar
>>739336673I don't expect logic from this place anymore.
>>739335441I don't look like this but I say this
>>739336583>No pubes Loooooooser
>>739325067What about her mom tho.
Rafal was cool, I almost marry him
>>739337750Well, true.
>>739338554Why are you gay?
>>739338554Rafal seems to be somewhat popular with Jap females.
Post FE girls taking it in their bum
>>739338554Neer played Engage, he looks like a male Lysithiea.
>>739341148Kek, he's actually MUH CANDY character too.
>>739335441Women like prominent men that they think they can fix/control. All womens romance is about rich and violent men that honestly belong in jail and the man goes through constant relapses in their character arc until the woman finally fixes him.
>>739341327Don't pretend as if most men are any different
>>739341686Why would guys want violent or rich women?
>>739341750Dunno but every man I've been with has ALWAYS asked me to do weird shit to his junk. Biting, tugging, slapping, etc. I always felt so bad doing it. Y'all are freaks.
does engage emulate well at 60fps, or does it stutter like hell? I've got a 4070 super.
>>739341882Runs perfect on a Switch and a Switch 2. Emulation is theft
>>739341914I would buy it for S2 gladly if it ran in 60fps, I can't go back to 30.
>>739341870Maybe you just dont try hard enough at handjobs and they get bored so they tell you to do stuff. I always find handjobs and teasing boring so I can relate to all those men.
>>739341954>I can't go back to 30.Sounds like a skill issue if 16 milliseconds ruins your enjoyment
Imagine pretending to be a Japanese person on a Mongolian ImageBoard
>>739342093I don't expect plebs to understand. be gone
>>739334716>map attacksDropped
>>739341870we're unashamed freaky
>>739341882I can't remember what was causing it but when I emulated it a few months ago I got some frame drops here and there but it was mostly stable on a 3060.
>>739341750Some of the most popular FE women were crazy violent women who threaten to (or do) kill the player.
lesbihonest we love GL here
>>739342967>GLGolden Lions?
>She's good chip, bro
>>739343302gwendolyn leveling
this game loves spawning you right between a rock and a hard place.
>>739343317I need a good game to play right now but the pre-3DS FEs insult my dignity by being too easy. Any good recs?
>>739342680You may have a point...
>>739343317They meant potato chips, because she shatters if you drop her like one foot.
>>739342680>valter if he was a woman and playable on the bad routewhy did it take them 14 entries to find this winning formula?
>>739343403>mayA woman killed the avatar in a FEH trailer, and she instantly won CYL the month after.
>>739343395Sakuna: of rice and ruinKunitsugami path of the goddessFar far west (WARNING: friendslop)Sonic origins
>>739343461"Find" implies it was intentional. They probably just tried to make Tharja 2, or more specifically Aversa 2.
Becca fucking mogs this shitter
>>739343317>cavWhy didn't you just show her doing 0 on the knights to REALLY own the rebeccachuds?
>>739343395Pokemon TCG GB, which you can just scan a QR code with your 3ds to download and play.Wonder why they put so many Famicom Wars games on the GB, but not any FE games?
>>739343570>cavaliers are impossible defensive walls comparable to knightsrebeccatards everyone
>>739343395Seconding sakuna
>>739343395pre-3DS FEs HAD dignity unlike the new undignified slop today, fuck you
>>739343570It's pretty important to be able to deal with the cavs on that map.
>>739343528Show me Erk doing this when you get there.
>>739343626The only enemy you're allowed to judge her monstrous might against are loldiers
Next girl posted has fat pussy lips
>>739343727I can show you Marcus doing that
>>739343797>non-sequiturOkay?
>>739343512I'll try the second one, thanks
>>739343868>non-sequiturBut enough about brave bowing a random luna druid.
>>739343934You're trying to weasel out like a little bitch because you know Erk can't do that.
>>739343395I don't know why you replied to me, but Age of Wonders 3 was pretty fun
>>739343380perfect chokepoint. even xander has a wall of units he can't one shot.
>>739343880Its like pikmin where you order shit around during the day and instead of flying off the planet at night time you have to play a tower defense game
>>739344041i don't actually need reina to keep him locked in place. if he moves back i can even move kaze away from him.
>>739344307just kill him
>>739344307nobody even attacked because laslow moved in front and clicked rally
>>739344382Kek, what a dingus.
>>739344382>29 attackBirthshart end of the game miniboss stats, everyone
>>739325067Yo cool! A Celine thread! OP is not a fag for once
>>739344382okay keaton actually damaged this guy so I'll have to use this instead.>>739344375and miss out on all this xp?
>>739344541a pure and innocent smile worth fighting for
The OG. It even has an evil version too.
>>739344449It's a brave weapon though.
>>739344613Nice so it's 0x2
Fire Emblem if it was actually good
>>739344553untouchable
Need more murderous clown women >>739344656Source?
>>739344656I'm gonna FUCK her ASS!
>>739344774Peri is trash
>>739344652Hey, maybe you actually have 15 or less AS and it's actually 0x4. It's even funnier when you think It's only 26 if you have WTA on him (25 if A-B rank, or 24 if S).
>>739344656Azura getting replaced
>>739344656oo ee oo
>>739344656We actually have FE Miku.
>>739344656Bandit rape bait
there should be an FE game based on constellations and planets
>>739344884What class is Rin supposed to be?
>>739344949Three Houses?
>>739344949No there really shouldn't.
>>739344884>dancer LukamuhWhat class would Teto be
>>739345007uhhh RUDE
#FE if good.
>>739344949How would the S-Supports go?
>>739344949Marth is named after a planet and he had marbles of astrological signs.
tropical setting fire emblemsnowscape setting fire emblem
>>739344884Aside from maybe the knight dude, this stuff makes me think more of Atelier Dusk saga than Echoes.
>>739344769love the broken fates AI that doesn't use it's staffs to heal the multitude of damaged units nearby.they also didn't even attackwhat the hell does he even do?
>>739345123i meant as in factions or kingdoms based on the constellations>>739345128aren't sothis, sirius, and ares based on constellations too
>>739345147That's Solm and Silesse
>>739345187Sothis is literally an alien.
>>739345001a taguel>zoomers have FORGOTTEN about Awakening
french revolutionary military academy fire emblemjamestown vs powhatan fire emblem
>>739345176look at that skill stack. that's +20(actually +18 thanks personal) damage and you can attack stance with yourself.
>>739345187>i meant as in factions or kingdoms based on the constellationsOh, then that's meh. They placed names based on stuff before. Sometimes they do have some significance, but you can tell they usually just do it because they sound cool and nothing else
meet n fuck kingdom fire emblem
Aztec vs Spaniards FE.El Dorado is the Fire Emblem.
>>739345441too bad conquest is already taken
>>739345398go to bed grandpa
>>739345341>french revolutionary military academy fire emblemyoure not gonna believe this
>>739345341>french revolutionaryfuck ye->military academykys
>>739345398I'd prefer that Zone-tan game where she's getting fat creampies and toys in the bathroom while tied up but it's FE girls
>>739345441The Spaniards have the more FE-like story thoughbeitAn innocent band of nobles recruiting local oppressed groups to kill the evil dragon cult
Futuristic/Mecha Fire Emblem... Wait
>>739345592when do they make one of these that is a good game?
>aztecs>powhatan>franceI dont want to play as brown people
family guy fire emblem
>>739345398that's already Genealogy/Awakening/Fates
>>739345618Alpha Gaiden was good.
>>739345621I got some bad news
>>739345584final boss spoilers
>>739345398Fire emblem, but guns and dinosaurs. Spino mount being the top tier
lots of Leonies on my feed today>>739344774https://gamebanana.com/mods/557645
>>739345630This is like that time the Loptrian Church orchestrated the birth of the antichrist
>>73934571536 bullets. more than enough to clear any chapter that remains.
>look up her S rank """""""""""romance""""""""""">mc gets friendzonedlolI think I know why this game bombed the series into irrelevancy
>>739345857Thanks.
>>739345618When you acquire actual taste.
>>739346126just fucking imagine ruining her abs with a baby-making creampie holy moly
Pre-language tribal fire emblem
>>739346493This. Such an underutilized setting. Imagine a Shaman that's like an actual shaman.
>>739345952That was censored but even the correct one seems a little subdued.I liked Panette more sense its clearly a marriage relationship.
impregnating midorikohttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/145057504
>>739346493https://files.catbox.moe/hduygs.mp4Already done with the worst part of Live A Live
FE x Dragon Ball (Like OG DB with tails and perverted women and shit)
>>739346885Fuck you, Pogo's part was awesome
>>739347076Dragon Quest surely must have some kind of strategy/tactics spinoff right
>>739325067Beautiful pale, blonde haired, green eyes babies with Céline courtesy of my blond seed and her blonde egg!!!
>>739347092Trash taste
>>739347164But I want Bulma to literally be Micaiah to kid Goku
>>739347164>>739347076Shiren the Wanderer and the game that came before it, Torneko, have that vibe and aesthetic but most people don't see mystery dungeon games as strategy games (they are though).
>>739347206Yeah, that's your taste all right. Don't need to keep repeating it
>>739347292roguelikes are nothing like fe
>>739347358I said they're strategy games. That's what they are, literally, like they advertise them as such.
>>739347292Simulturn makes roguelites markedly different from strategy games.
>>739325067there's only one woman i kneel to
>>739347601Yeah, like I said. There's always pushback by genre purists. But it plays like a tactics game and is sold as one by the publisher. The devs cited chess as an inspiration. It's a fucken strategy game and more FEfags should play it instead of the million FFTslop clones that are just about swinging big-dick numbers on a tic-tac-toe grid.
>>739347718>TFW like Whitemane and Céline
fire emblem x romancing saga 2
>>739347736Sure, my favorite roguelike is DCSS and I do agree there's some crossover, but simulturn is just one fundamental difference, the size of engagements is another. It doesn't really matter though when strategy has such a broad colloquial meaning.
>>739347736this is like recommending touhou to a doom fan because "they're both shooting games"
>>739346885>the worst part of Live A LiveBut enough about Imperial China
>>739347868I just wanted to shill for Shiren the Wanderer since an anon asked what to play earlier. Fair warning, it can get pretty hard, but the newer ones ease you in pretty well.Sometimes it feels like we'd sooner recommend shit games that are genre-kosher than the ones we actually love that are mechanically adjacent.Culdcept Revolt is another hidden gem.>>739347985
I played that one roguelike FE hack for like 20 minutes and it was boring as fuck because there were no real maps
>>739348084I don't know if this actually applies to Mewgenics but it looked like it did and it's one reason why I didn't pick it up.
>>739348084Which one? There's a couple of them.
>>739348156Hetja's Quest
>>739348192Yeah I've seen videos of that one, it looks like gimmicky shit. Try Illusory Dungeon, it more closely resembles a real FE game.
>>739348148Mewgenics definitely has actual layouts that it reuses. Are they good? Now that's a different question, and for a game like that it's hard to even determine what makes a map good.
>>739347092how many people got mammoth'd
>>739344769>>739344041>fatesfags trying to deny that their game is a 1 tile hallway game
>>739348317Shuriki-san, what is your favorite sake?
fire emblem x pokemonfire emblem x final fantasy final fantasy builders (villager)
>>739348351All of these already exist
>>739348351Pokemon ConquestFinal Fantasy TacticsDragon Quest Builders
>>739348351pokemon is strategically deeper than FE so it gets to go first in the name
>>739348351poke emblem was decent but needed a lot of work to be good. i would like a second game, but it doesnt seem likely
>>739348341Birthright is very beloved here, you're observant to have noticed this
>>739348352https://soundcloud.com/user34080520/the-pleasure-of-being-chromd-inside
>>739348392It's not lol
fire emblem shadows is what atlus should have been searching for, but a decade too late.
>>739348392Only in romhacks and competitive play. Gamefreak designs them so toddlers can beat them.
>>739348341A lot of Conquest maps are just that BTW.
>>739348414post randbats elo faggot
>>739348414you'd get raped on showdown bitch boy
>>739348496>>739348497Competitive is not even remotely the same thing as playing the retarded AI. Stop the shitty larp.
>>739348392>pvp is more strategic than pve wow, breaking news here everyone
>>739348496>>739348497
>>739348352>>739348404Me as her please
>>739348496Not him but I got to the top 10 on randbats a few years ago after like a couple weeks of playing. I wasn't new or anything but it was the first time I'd played competitive since ORAS so there were a lot of pokemon I didn't recognize. Obviously competitive pokemon is kind of a different story than a singleplayer game.
>>739348623I enjoy Pokémon as a competitive game but I just can't get that interested in the in-game stuff anymore after getting into other RPG series, not even ROMhacks. The series is just a bit too simplified to its detriment.
When you think about it Seth is just the overpowered, overleveled starter you solo the game with in Pokemon.The only difference is we value Jagens in FE and Pokefags are a little embarrassed by their Jagens, so they made up a crazy challenge playstyle where they ban a bunch of shit in order to give the game a pulse.
>>739348693Yeah I haven't played any of the games since Sun and Moon. The games themselves don't interest me in the slightest anymore.
>>739348731I never use Jagens except as meatshields
>>739348693nuzlocks are fun once in a while. you do need to dip into romhacks for any appreciable difficulty
>>739348731>their crazy made up challenge playstyle is...permadeathWELL WELL WELL!
>>739348731The Jagen is actually the early game bug you always get that evolves at like level 10
Facefucking Celica
>>739348803you haven't seen the true poketism challenge that is super kaizo ironmonimagine an FE randomizer forced solo ironman where you have to pivot at the midpoint of the game to a different unit and you can't use the top ~3 units in the game by bases/growths
>>739348815No, that's the Rebecca. And the Raven/Ogma is like, Arcanine or something.
>>739348903She's gonna give you so many ulcers from that part of her body
>>739348803>>739348916oh, and the enemies are buffed with complete+randomized skillsets too, with the bosses guaranteed to get at least a few good skills
>>739348916I've seen a bit of this and I can't imagine it being any fun outside of a streamer context. Just sounds like rolling the dice until you get a playable mon build (that will then probably stomp the game effortlessly).
>>739348731Pokefags literally cheat their nuzlockes of ACTUAL POKEMON GAMES MADE FOR BABIES by giving themselves infinite rare candies.
>>739348968>(that will then probably stomp the game effortlessly).this is wrong but the first part is correct. they have a rating system and plenty of 4/5 star mons die before brock. you do *need* one to win it all though.
>>739348978Okay, but the way this was explained to me is that it just lets you skip over senseless grinding (you don't use it to overlevel), which I actually agree with conceptually.
>>739348978>>739349049sounds like the gemfags of fates
Imagine rare candies in FE. Wait that's just Bonus EXP in Tellius.
>>739349049These games are made for children to beat with one overleveled starter. They are trivial if you have an entire PC box to select 6 mons from for any boss in the game, since you can level them "appropriately" for free. A real nuzlocke would see players making concessions in team selection and level due to the real time commitment that leveling other stuff up safely would entail.
>>739349068Because it maps along the same lines of ideological autism. I'm not a gem hacker but I do sympathize with them, and I sympathize with rare candy fags in Nuzlocke.Anons that dislike either probably dislike both, and are rules-sticklers to their core.
>>739348559Yeah, it's even more gay. Your game balanced around 90% moves and 20-30% status chances sucks.
>>739349201>Your game balanced around 90% movesliterally FE tho'
>>739349159>a real nuzlockeIt's all fake, blud. Hocus-pocus. Made up doodly-pop.
>>739330050Lobster Man, my arch-nemesis
Hapi Plapi
Celine's tea
>>739349306It's really disappointing how rare it was to see the crests used as womb tattoos or tramp stamps on girls.Similar shit happened with Genshin. Whaddya mean nobody used the element symbols on the girls as womb tattoos?This is just free porn ideas.
>>739349310Accompanied by Celica's
>>739349238Turn-based strategy games generally don't have very good PvP, especially not Fire Emblem, nor are they ostensibly designed for it, what's your point?
>>739349395my original post
>>739349160I'm pro-gem hacking but anti-candies. Gems are overall a pretty minor convenience thing, but infinite rare candies has far-reaching implications in how you engage with the challenge at a basic level. I mean I already don't play vanilla nuzlockes because they're too easy, so I can't imagine how you're calling it a challenge when losing mons basically doesn't even matter since you can immediately replace them with some level 7 shitter you caught 10 hours earlier and never touched.
>>739349430I accept your concession that Pokémon PvP sucks.
engag..winned
>>739349520Nobody said that, schizo
>>739349454What if you just gave yourself an allowance of candies to skip over some of the grind, but not infinite, maybe not even enough to abuse?I fucking hate grinding, bro, but I can sorta get why you would want to do a Nuzlocke with a variety of mons, and not have to grind to make them usable.
>>739349591sexo
>>739349598Not addressing an argument is a concession.
>>739349591Veyle cannot mudamudamudamuda anyone well
>>739349389Engaging
>>739349635you didn't have an argument. you stated an opinion.
>>739349662>the game where I lose because my opponent rolled a 15% freeze chance is good, actually
>>739349701another opinion and you have 6 mons for a reason
>>739349454Would you rather be forced to grind for hours against level 5 wild shitters instead? Pearl clutching about Rare Candies is so nonsensical. This isn't Fire Emblem, where you can manufacture situatons for low level units to function, and grinding is generally discouraged by the game mechanics. If you're at a big level disadvantage in Pokémon, you just can't play.
>>739349641One fucks bandits figuratively, while the other does it literally
I don't understand why you faggots gamewar about literally everything. Pokemon now, really? You took the Star Fox bait a week ago. Can't you just let some things go? I'm the king of being petty on the internet but idk, this one just seems dumb to me.
Céline’s teaAlear’s pepsiLapis’s… well you know
>>739325067This is the kind of face Marie Antoinette would have before being guillotined.
>>739349815The pepsi in question
>>739349743>bro, just swap for the 50/50, since your opponent knows the right move is to swap, and they might anticipate that
>>739349768This is why I love FE, by the way. A lot of RPGfags don't get it and find the combat simplistic, but it's a game of small numbers. "Level" doesn't actually tell you anything important about a unit's capability in Fire Emblem. In Etrian Odyssey and stuff like that, you will get straight up pwned if you're 5 levels under par. Shit is so annoying.
>>739348942pokemon x fire emblemyou have a rival team and only you can defeat the final boss
>>739349887sounds like you hate an opponent that can think
>>739349954I think Pokémon is pretty fun despite it being a random game. It's similar to Fire Emblem in that it's a game of probability, so you'll do well with good strategies anyway, but it's just a fact that you'll run into losses to teams you'd normally crush as a result of the randomness built into the battle system.
I remember when people used to just talk about FE
>>739350026we need FW news
>>739350026a long time ago, when horny cucarachas and brown indians invaded
>>739350064
What level do you promote your units in fates?I'm doing lvl10 for rallybots and 19/20 for combat units, wonder if I'm overlooking anything
>>739350154Yeah that's nearly optimal, keep it up
>>739350124raul won't like this one bros. someone send it to him.
>>739345441That would be too kino
>>739350154anyone i want to use long term i promote late, anyone i intend to pump and dump ill promote early. elise i usually promote mid teens so she can fight sooner
>>73935015420
>you see I stack tonic + meal + pair up bonus to make it so my character mathematically can't die>this is very strategic and not like those jrpgs where the bigger number always wins
>>739350312Yeah, in most games you just have a character that can't die. In fun games you have to work a little bit for it.
Sex with PAWG Pepsi
>>739350312It's a matter of intelligibility. In Fire Emblem you know what stats do precisely, and you can plan around that to the exact digit (which may mean stomping cannon fodder into the dirt).Now explain to me how the combat works in your favorite RPG without consulting a wiki document.
>>739350404y she cover pussy
>>739350458its too fat
modern nuzlockes are boring as fuck because there isnt any problem solving left in the format. its basically a gacha game with auto leveling and the only part of the game content that interacts with the permadeath mechanic is gyms and rivals since generic shitters are never going to kill a proper pokemon. 1v1 single action combat is just not complex enough to make an interesting challenge. It would actually be better to play the game as a literal gacha puller with literal auto levels and a bag of TMs unlocked every time you beat a boss since thats basically how nuzlockes play out anyways, just with a bunch of filler to waste time in between.>b-but my nuzlocke has no healing in battle and limited pokecenters and no spending money and and Dont care, you could put unlimited restrictions on the game and it would still shape out as gacha pulls > boss fight repeat.Aethermancer understands this and streamlined this format with monster sanctuary style combat for meaningful team building and the corruption mechanic to punish you for taking too long in generic battles.
What's a higher level of cheating: Turnwheel use or Arena abuse?
>>739350436>Now explain to me how the combat works in your favorite RPG without consulting a wiki document.Troubleshooter has all the relevant formulae in the in-game manual.
>>739350458IS keeps inflating her proportions to compete with Femleth, so she has a fat pussy now.
>>739350509Now that's a riot. I've seen that autismfest and it's the exact opposite of clarity and directness. Layers upon layers of statistical obfuscation.
>>739350436Nothing simpler, just read the manual.
>>739350507Arena is usually rigged against you so savestates are advised to prevent deathsTurnwheel is used to take back mistakes but the player often gets WAY too many so they can just throw shit until it worksBoth suck but t least one is a feature that the devs intended
>>739349049>senseless grindingIf the gameplay of an rpg only matters at boss battles, there's a problem. Random encounters should matter as much if not more with them being the main source of ressource drain and added danger.Maybe nuzlockers should limit pokemon center uses instead of ignoring a core part of the game.
>>739350564It's not that complex though, there are very few cases in the game where it's ambiguous exactly how something is working. It is deep with many interlinking systems, but they interact intuitively.
>>739349815I think we need a fourth one
>>739350595>core part of the gameCome on now, Max Repel exists for a reason.
>>739350148damn...
>>739350724It's supposed to be, but GF sucks dick at designing games so there's nothing stopping you from buying an item that ignores 70% of the game. At least it doesn't work on trainers and pokemon at a higher level than your lead.
>>739349924>In Etrian Odyssey and stuff like that, you will get straight up pwned if you're 5 levels under par. Shit is so annoying.If you're losing in a JRPG, 9/10 times the problem is a team/build issue and not a level issue. Even in games where level actually did seriously impact the damage formula, eg Etrian Odyssey 1 (and only one) and SMTV (but not Vengeance), you can still win well under the enemy's level as long as you actually use the game's systems properly.In the case of Pokemon, enemy trainers were frequently given higher levels in order to compensate for the fact that you'd often have EV trained pokemon and in the older games, access to badge boosts. So it doesnt really matter if Red had like a Level 70 pikachu, your level 50 pokemon could still win, especially if it was something that you had for a long time.Nuzlockers spamming rare candies and skipping fights actually make their mons significantly weaker than what a casual player would have.
>>739350693Hortensia's donut.
>>739350564The masteries are all very straightforward percentage or flat boosts… this is very concerning for your intellect…
prpr
>>739350836Generally only dungeon crawlers actually test party stamina and even those stopped doing that.
fucking celine while celica fucks me in the ass
>>739350901Most rpgs will actually wear you down gradually, and have grinding as the clutch for shitters who both cannot effectively get exp and can't learn the game. It's like how in FE, you can technically always grind somehow, but you are a shitter if you do so instead of simply using superior strategies.
>>739350964Mae...
>>739350841>If you're losing in a JRPG, 9/10 times the problem is a team/build issue and not a level issue.I think this is very optimistic, even if I understand the urge to want to say "git gud." A lot of RPGs are just poorly designed. They're clearly about getting hueg stats and spamming OP attacks rather than using thinky tactics first and foremost.To go back to EO, yes, there is always a theoretical Rattata-Endeavor-like memebuild that can one-shot Killgorgod the Fuckslayer of Nightmadness - assuming you have literal precognition on your side. But if you go in blind to Scylla like 10 levels under like I did, you're in for a bad time. Can you overcome it with grit and determination? Eh, maybe. But you're definitely punished for not keeping up with the level curve.Meanwhile, you really don't see this same dynamic in Fire Emblem, mercifully. The games are designed around small, knowable numbers, not the level of the characters. Levels is not featured in any of the core FE combat formulas.Did you know the EO3 literally lies to you about a character's weapon strength stat? I found this out in the process of learning its asinine combat formulas, so I could finally optimize my team for the lategame bosses that were kicking my ass.
>>739351152If it's EO2U it costs 2 levels to rest. If you're underleveled already it will take no time to get those back. It's rather trivial in the 3DS games to kit yourself out for any problem boss even very underleveled. More fair in the DS games where the penalty is 10 levels.
I want cute girl posting not this textslop
>>739351242You can have that in >>>/e/
>>739351242
>>739351237It was EOII HD. But so what? If you have to grind at all to comfortably beat a game, your game is doing something wrong in my opinion, at least from a strategy/tactical design standpoint.
>>739351352You don't have to grind at all to beat those games. In fact the later games give you too much EXP just for completing quests. It's also true that in just about every RPG you never need to grind.
>>739350859>Hortensia didn't get the topic
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>>739351295Haru had the best phantom thief persona of the group
The Stranger
>>739351453I thought the Arab got killed in that story
>>739351295Need Marianne paizuri badd~
>>739351434Yeah, EOfags always gaslight like this when you point out it's kind of a grind game. There is no possible way you can beat the 6th stratum boss in EO3 without grinding. I quit the game after he partywiped me on Turn 1 because I don't like grinding.And while you may retort that this is an extreme post-game example, that design philosophy trickles down to the rest of the game. It's true that you don't always need to grind, but certainly it helps a lot to do so at certain points, which is why you recommended resetting my levels.
>>739351152>>739351352I can and will use the gitgud argument, because the fact that you're defaulting to the argument of, well I lost because my level was too low is just the usual shitter argument. I'm not going to deny that EO has its share of unfair fights, especially when it comes to the bonus bosses, but many of the story bosses usually just boil down to fighting them a couple of times to learn their gimmick (if you're actually paying attention) and then gearing appropriately.IIRC Scylla's big deal in 2/2HD was Cry Soul which hits like a truck but is inaccurate, so she tries to cripple your evasion with sleep and so on so it can land. And I really want to know what your "10 levels under is" because I doubt you actually got there at 25.
For me, it's the snake wife.
>>739351638Imagine her breasts hitting you over the head and giving you a concussion.
>>739351563It's understandable that on a first playthrough you're going to grind. These games are designed for more than that, though. That's why you can't have everybody in your party. They expect you to replay the game with different party members. It's at that point you're more familiar with the game and then you can use your knowledge to clear bosses at a much lower level than you otherwise would. Even in the extreme example of EO3's 6th stratum boss people have beaten it with parties in their 70s-80s unretired. Anyway the same sort of process applies to other RPGs, most just don't have the same level of baseline difficulty as EO.
Daytime /feg/ threads are much more comfy than night time ones. We all know why.
>>739351683A man can dream.
>>739350693Timerra’s chocolate milk
>>739351576I was at like level 25, yeah. I use that skill that drastically lowers the encounter rate BECAUSE I HATE. FUCKING. GRINDING. And I was punished for it, because Etrian Odyssey is an RPG - a stats-before-tactics game.In the end I did beat her thanks to mists (stab mist I believe?). But if it was not literally for that haxx-tier item, I would have been shit out of luck. Why deny this? You think a level 5 team can beat Scylla? Don't be so foolish, anon.
>>739351638Schizo ruined her for me.
>>739351638I love gully
>>739351762The thing with the DS games is they hadn't yet refined the random encounter design. In the 3DS games, even EO4 which is generally much easier, random encounters are a lot more engaging and fun to fight.
>any of you losers wanna duel?
>>739351295
>>739351739>ChocolateHuh...
>>739351872I really don't like random encounters in any EO game. I play the games on level of gestalt, the total package experience. They're comfy as hell, but the combat is repetitive as all get-out and I just get sick of it. Yes, inject this max repel into my veins, I know I can stomp these zubats I just don't wanna.
>>739351801Don't we all?
>>739351904I'll duel her pussy with my cock
>>739352027First one to get pregnant loses.
>>739351904I unironically would bet on Mia not being able to outlast me or make me cum.I highly doubt she could.
So uh, this is what you guys prefer? Erotic roleplay with other men? Alright I guess.
>>739351762If you think fighting random encounters in a JRPG is grinding then you obviously don't know what grinding actually is. You can do low level runs if you want, but that actually requires the player to have knowledge of the game that you clearly did not have.You're the equivalent of some blind player attempting to do a 0% growths run of a FE game and then whining about it being a game that requires no strategy. The enemy used a bunch of bash moves or whatever, so you countered it by simply reducing incoming bash damage either by wearing damage reduction accessories or using damage reduction items. In FE, the equivalent would be you trading out the shitters for better units as the game went along.
>>739352358This is normal fe discussion sir
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>>739352358It's not to my taste either.
This is why we need FW news
>>739352364Almost all JRPGs are way too grindy and have far too high of an encounter rate. There's nothing mentally stimulating or strategically interesting about fighting 3-5 enemy compositions for hours on end, then switching to a new set when you change floors. You've been conditioned into liking bad gameplay because it's genre-omnipresent, but that doesn't change the bad gameplay.Etrian Odyssey is charming and dare I say, lovely, but its gameplay is honestly pretty lousy and typical outside of buildtism / team customization.
>>739352516But I don't like negros.
You niggas argue about genres you don't even play and say they're all bad everytime
>>739352545/pol/ posting will be a breath of fresh air compared to gooner ERP and random autistic rants
>>739352516>Implying people won't do ERP with the new girls
>>739352537Your criticism applies to a lot of RPGs but Etrian Odyssey is not one of them. Venomflys literally set the tone for the entire series on the first floor of EO1.
>>739352537Define "too high of an encounter rate". Because it sounds like you don't want any random encounters at all because there are thousands of jrpgs out there with touch encounters for people like you that would run away from all of them and then still complain about the games being stat checks/too grindy.If you'd actually try to fight the enemies that happen along the critical path on a blind run instead of avoiding all of them, or better yet, actually try to win fights by using all of your tools instead of stat checking them, then maybe you wouldn't be wasting everyone's time with these inane complaints.
>>739352665Come on now, anon
I have no intention of buying or even pirating FW.
>>739352723>pirate FWYou can't pirate it even if you wanted to.
>>739352701You're the one replying to me lol, wtf? Just stop replying, nigga, just look away. It's too high, that's it. I will not justify it. The only fun part of EO is the exploration and the boss fights. The random encounters are an utter pointless waste of time and life.
>>739352723>piratingThe switch 2 isn't even hacked or emulated. Probably won't be for at least 10 years minimum
>>739352768You're extrapolating how the rest of the series is based off the couple of ones that you've played.
>>739352846I've played 1-5. I think that's enough.
>>739352537Im trying to play Breath of Fire 3, its a struggle in 2026. It was the first JRP I ever played and loved it so much, 3 decades latter though. Is it just games got better or social media killed my attention span.
>>739352917BoF games are mediocre mechanically. More about the story with those ones.
/vfeg/ - JRPG General
For me it's Atelier (Arland).
>>739352917Based>>739353049Cringe
>>739347867>>739353049good taste
>>739352917Cringe>>739353049Based
>>739352917>social media killed my attention span.That's certainly helped. But 3 is pretty dry and so is half of 4.
>>739352768>>739352892so >>739352701 is right. you just want touch encounter games because the later eo games turn random encounters way down because they pivoted to hallway > foe puzzle > etc on repeat, in addition to shit like floor jump and shortcut spam to enable players to skip massive chunks of the dungeon along with many foe puzzle sections having their encounter rate turned way down.
>>739352917Your brain is fried from TikTok. Remove it.
>>739352892What party did you run in 5?
I love shit like Etrian with no story. DRPGs are great for that overall
/fe/ = JRPG general
>>739352917You ate too much slop.I am enjoying this game despite being my first playthrough.
>>739353254Speaking of games with horrendous encounter rates...
>>739353116>you just want touch encounter gamesThe entire thing is just rotten at the root, if you ask me. I'm not sure if it can be fixed without razing everything. I really just don't like random encounters at all, they're boring and brainless. I would favor more puzzle-based gameplay like the FOE puzzles in EO, but that's harder to do at scale.>>739353127I don't remember, it's been years. I had a big titty blonde elf and, a dreadlock fist kween, and another big titty elf but blue and carrying a coffin, at least.
>>739352630Someone pls I need Aryan girl
>>739353350Well, I can see it with just Pug/Necro either way, both those classes are well capable of stomping the game into the ground by themselves.
>>739352358Newfag
Grinding is defined as intentionally running around in one spot and farming randoms for no reason other than to gain exp/levels/money instead of actually progressing the game. Listening to this guy, he probably thinks that fighting any form of random encounter is grinding once he's demonstrated that he can beat them at least once.However, the thing is that many jrpgs use random encounters as a way to help ensure that the players are on the intended level curve while also testing resource management via attrition. If you want to skip them via repels/other encounter reduction items then that's your prerogative, since in most games, those things would only work if you're already too strong for the zone. Just keep in mind that intentionally playing a low level game is a challenge run and at that point, its entirely based on player knowledge of the game and its systems.
>>739352723FW has no dignity
>>739353350Random encounters are an optimization exercise. How do I best use my resources to clear the dungeon and everything within it while also ensuring that i can beat the boss or whoever at the end?A boss rush simulator wouldn't be very interesting to play because at that point, its not that different from a gacha game.
I'm gonna recruit a full team of browns and jizz all over Sothis' throne. And her tits too!
>>739353532When I think about every vaguely tactical game I have ever sincerely enjoyed for the gameplay, they don't have these continuous disruptive combat sequences where I need to manually input the same commands over and over to "prove" I can beat the cannon fodder of the game. Stuff like Fire Emblem, Into the Breach, Slay the Spire. Slay the Spire is interesting because it's 100% encounters, and the combat is highly randomized and unpredictable, so you're not spamming the same spell list for hours upon hours.I don't really care about the semantics of the word "grinding." But some games just feel grindy. I basically think you shouldn't force me to do monotonous, repetitive tasks in any shape or form in your game.
>>739353750count me in boss
>>739353532This is pretty much an admission that JRPGs have repetitive, grindy gameplay as a core part of their design. I enjoy them from time to time but this is the exact reason why they don't keep my interest for very long like FE does.
'Bosses' are the best part of video games.The random encounters are low quality filler whereas the boss fights are the ones where devs put effort into creating a proper challenge. like story battles in FE versus random grind maps. There's no reason you can't have every fight be good, it's just a matter of developer time.Sometimes you can skip all the random encounters and just fight boss fights.
>Play an obscure snes jrpg>Make it pretty far on my own>Get an item that I can't figure out what it does for the life of me>Look up a guide to find out what it does>As I read it, I notice that it insists that I would have needed to grind to level 50 for the point where I'm at>Meanwhile, my party is at level 35This is the point where it clicked that most retards literally grind until they statcheck enemies instead of ever considering strategy. Hell, they also used to do the same for FE too until LTCfags autism'd harder than the grindfags and took over the discourse.
>>739354342I don't know if most players are like that, but yeah the ones that write guides are always horrible and should have no business writing guides.The data tables are useful, at least
>>739353793>Whitest man in Argentina
>>739352917cringe>>739353049cringe
>>739353763>>739353825>>739354051Instead of going through the same spell lists and using the same moves over and over, FE has you buying the same set of items and using them over and over to deal with trash fodder. Maybe you'll break out the effective weapons or the killer weapons once in a while for the particularly durable ones but how is that any different from casting the stronger spells when fighting a miniboss/tougher random encounter?You'll say that all random encounters are the same but that's not true. The approach that you'd take for say 5 goblins is not what you'd do in an a encounter where there's goblins, mages and an enemy that takes a hit. Just like how in FE, the way you'd approach a pack of 5 brigands is not the same as you'd approach a group of 2 cavs, 1 archer, a mage and a wyvern.But don't worry, if you feel like random encounters are icky, nasty and all of those other things then I have the game just for you.>>739354342Some of the older JPRGs actually did have a lot of legitimately useless things because of bugs or whatever but I find that far too many people try to win by statchecking and refusing to use items because "what if i need it later". Same idea happens in FE with them refusing to use tonics/statboosters/etc.
>>739353750Everyone hated Civ 7, and for good reason, but raping my way across France as Harriet Tubman African warlord of Buganda was some peak gaming.
>>739353619JUST GIVE ME A FUCKING RELEASE DATE ALREADY!
>>739354794No.
>>739353763What level of higher order thinking am I using to send Sigurd to crush another pack of enemies for the umpteenth time? I'd probably take /vfeg/'s complaints about non FE games more seriously if they didn't just crutch on the same set of faces every relay.
>>739353254i think Namdai is hiding something. a 3D remake?
>>739354859It's not even a question of whether Fire Emblem gameplay is more "intelligent." It's just better. Fire Emblem respects your time.
>>739354859FE4 was really one of the games of all time.
Fire Emblem treats the shitter like a shitter, unimportant and quickly dealt with. The jarpig treats the shitter like he's an event, like he merits effort. This is the important difference.
>>739354859Just because it's easy to understand doesn't mean it isn't complex, unless you think Chess isn't complex.
>>739354859Haven't played his game, but if Sigurd is a forced deployment then I don't know if it's the player's fault for using Sigurd.
>>739355238>JRPGHere's a pack of enemies, let me dispatch them with my most efficient aoe move>FEHere's a pack of enemies, let me throw my juggernaut at them>>739355247FE is nowhere in the same ballpark of complexity as chess.
>>739355389Fire Emblem objectively has a larger amount of outcomes.
>>739355092>Respects your time>3 Houses and Revelation in general>Arena chores in 4
>>739355428nta but>objectively has a larger amount of outcomesDo you mean specifically in what's being mashed together? Because objectively no FE has a larger amount of outcomes as something like The Last Remnant.
FE fans think that they're playing chess but in reality they're playing checkers.
>>739355546I mean that you can calculate every game of chess with every move possible, Chess will cap around 10 to the 120th power, and then you can calculate a game of Fire Emblem with every move possible and it'll be more than that. You could also go smaller scale and compare it on a map basis, some maps are less complex than Chess, others more.
>>739355629FE has a lot of useless/invalid moves though.
>>739355673So do those Chess games. I don't even think a third of them would be real games, I'd have to read up on it again though.
>>739355629Yeah that's why I asked if that's what you meant. Because again FE is nowhere near the amount of outcomes as something like the Last Remnant Labyrinth of Galleria, or even EO. You have objectively more moves, attacks, skills, spells, enemy compositions stat lines, gear, etc etc. Then there's adjustments based on battle rank which has variables for different brackets of player strength.Then you compare the preparation phase in which there are dramatically more ways to build your team/army and the gulf widens.But outcomes isn't equivalent to complexity. The meat inside the game is complex, actually playing the game after learning the rules, is simple.
>>739355782Computationally outcomes are equivalent to complexity. It's mostly a semantics argument at this point.
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>>739356468>nobody has impregnated this in over 1000 years
>>739355626I like Connect 4 :D
>>739325067summer sexline and summer boobtensiatrust the plan
>>739353532>he probably thinks that fighting any form of random encounter is grindingSame fags in these threads who act like giving any 'non-meta' FE unit any form of exp is grinding.
>>739351521my favorite engage set...pure sexo
>>739356981I will always feed Anna all the exp I can in the 2 early paralogue chapters and promote her before Chapter 7.
No goons tonight, I'm really tired and it doesn't look like this thread will be past bump limit any time soon. Oh well.
>No gooning
Do people in-universe ever mention how fucking weird Alear looks. Like, even more so than the usual anime pastel cast.
>>739357257SAVED
Gooning to Nino
>>739357257Damn *pulls out wiener*
>>739325128>>739325215This >>739326570
Post feet
>>739357798>FEH Rajhat
We love Serra here.
>>739361557Who's "we"?
>>739361557I guess I'd pump and dump her.
>be thief >get caught >empress celine visits my shitty town the day before my release
>>739361557I like her design at least.
Which FE girl would you hatefuck?
>>739335549Only if you're tall
which fe boy would be better as a girl
>>739351762>random encounters during normal progression>grinding
>>739355247FE is not a complex SRPG mechanically. In fact when they did try to add some degree of complexity to the series, many players disliked it.This is why it has to place so much emphasis on map design as games with weak maps quickly expose how shallow it can get.
>>739365245Dimitri.
>>739365245All of them
it's funny that fefags say other games are big number games when fe has almost nothing beyond numbers. a character with 6 str is never going to do damage to an enemy with 20 def no matter what strategy you employ. the extreme example of this is 0 growth runs where characters whose numbers aren't big enough just don't get deployed.
>>739349591>>739349631Breeding sex with lil' Sexter!
>>739365647Chess isn't a complex game mechanically either, but you can argue that it's a deeper game strategically. Complexity doesn't add to strategy by itself.
>>739325067She's pure sex!
>Going IliaI wonder if I should buy some chest keys for later maps or just baby sit Astol for 20A and 22.
>>739367128>a character with 6 str is never going to do damage to an enemy with 20 def no matter what strategy you employ.Excelblem beat Sacred stones with 0 str base and growth. He did lunatic conquest going a step further and capping strength and magic at 0.
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>>739368175Excelblem also deployed a ridicilous amount of savage blow/poison ninjas that you'd never get under normal circumstances.
>>739368394Even if you're gonna get upset about the castle resources, it's not like he even exhausted the pool of characters who naturally have ninja in their class set in the first place. You can very easily get that many of them without capture.
>>739367128the point isn't that numbers matter less, it's that they remain in a range that lets you consistently predict outcomes down to the individual hp over several turns
>>739367128No, Disgaea is an example of a game that has almost nothing beyond numbers.
>>739367128>it's funny that Fire Emblem uses mathematical laws in its game formulasUh...I guess?
500 already
It's time
>>739368547>UpsetIts just a simple fact anon. If he didnt use those resources then its likely that he'd have issues getting ninja on all of the units in CQ who could access it due to seal limitations.
>>739364687eveyle
It's tea time
>>739369201The system is stupid as fuck anyways. Would it have been okay to take a real life week and persuade every day until they were recruited. All of the resource-connected systems are dumb like that.
>>739369153time for what?
>>739369043needs serious correction
>>739369364you already know
>>739369314Evil Veyle is the hottest girl in Engage by a country mile. Not even close.
>>739370667my wife, ivy, celine and hort
>>739370667wish hortensia could have gotten more hairstyles
Fire emblem was never good
