was Kris the vessel all along?
>>739446779nokris isn't a copy of anything, the vessel might be a copy of krisif not then the vessel is still composed of multiple pieces based on other humans
kris and his soul are one and the same, not two entitiesthe soul is simply being controlled by the player as any player character is, frisk was controlled entirely by the player, any character you play, link, banjo kabooby, gordon freeman, whatever, are all that, their actions are whatever the player does but they are making those actions, there's no sense of them not wanting to do that because you write the story as you play the game and who the character is, how they act and what they wanna do, they can't not want it because you play themit's just that in this instance the character of kris sorta separated from the soul, kinda peeled away from it, and now has a view of it all and is capable of introspection tldr how do i peel a piece of salami off my ceiling i threw it there now it won't come off
The story is still open ended enough that Toby could pull out whatever he wants out of his ass to move the plot wherever. theoryfags trying to anticipate what will happens is a pointless exercise because they'll throw literally anything at the wall and when something by chance does happen to stick they'll feel vindicated even thought it was pure luck
>>739446779who cares? Deltatroon is so old by now.The quirky rpgmaker audience has already grown past it.
>>739446779All I know is that there's a good chance that nigger Toby is not gonna reveal anything in Chapter 5.
>>739446565Of course man, a made-for-profit story that happens to have some internal cohesion as a side effect of being created by a human mind is totally the same as a pretentious story where the creator constantly hits you in the head with what the "point" is.
What (feasible) ending for Deltarune do you think would piss off people the most?Mother 3 blank screen sequence? "It was all a dream"?
>>739446779lol isn't that undertale? I played that when I was a kid.
>>739447205>Deltatroontourist
>>739447839Dumb tranny newfag
>>739447574You just have to do the opposite of what people want.Have the lives of the main characters be absolutely obliterated, no one comes out of it happy.Also don't explain anything, Gaster never shows up, his backstory is never explained, you don't know what happened to Dess, you don't even get an idea of what happens after the end.
>>739447574>Mother 3 blank screen sequence?A variation of this is almost guaranteed to happen
>>739367843Why is it that when they're drawn as mothers frisk is the one given the dead anime mom haircut?
>>739448283i can see it happening when we go turbo dark, but not as the ending
>>739448401I would bet absolutely everything I have on the ending being ambiguous, and given how Toby has mentioned several times that he is deeply inspired by Mother 3, I am certain that Deltarune is gonna end with a variant of "you don't actually see the outcome of the ending play out, though you can make an interpretation of it based on what you've done before the ending".
>>739447968That plus if we don't get an endgame "Giygas moment" that puts photoshop Flowey to shame I'll be particularly disappointed. I want to see some creatively unnerving shit
>>739448283I'm telling you guys, chapter 1 has foreshadowed the ending all this time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B6HB9VU7Ho
>>739448689Yes there is a good chance this is in fact the ending. I bet it's gonna be the surviving cast moving to another world, and you're left alone in the old world, along with Gaster, and you just stay there as the world is completely covered in darkness.
>>739446779No, but Kris was always the cage, YOU however, are not the caged one. After all, this isn't Kris' first rodeo, he played this game before YOU came along. The caged one is someone else, a demon Kris summoned into this world way before the Dark Worlds began appearing.
>>739446382Personally as another humanfag I would be open to whatever new humans Toby introduces, outside of masculine Deltarune Frisk and Chara. That's why I don't want them in Deltarune. >>739446779I doubt Kris is the vessel because goners are copies and there's no other humans in Deltarune for Toby to copy Kris from, unless Gaster copied Frisk/Chara from Undertale and created Kris/Vessel from them which I don't know how people would react to.>>739448364That's the only Milf Frisk image I have where she has that hair, a lot of times Frisk just looks the same or has longer hair.
>>739448631I wandered into this thread after seeing this thumbnail, what's this art? Very cool looking
>>739447574Undertale is shat on in someway that implies it wasn't real or a complete waste of time, Toby actually character assinates all Undertale characters, none of the mysteries get answered, Gaster is just a middle finger to theorists, the Knight is someone that makes no sense to be the Knight and Dess is completely irrelevant and ran away from home.
>>739448806My bet is that it will be literally the soul dying, cutting to black without any explanation of what happens, Gaster appearing to say some words, and you have the options: try again and loop back into chapter 1, or give up and listen to Darkness Falls playing as the credits roll.
>>739446779We’re already half way through the game. Unless Toby is the biggest hack imaginable I doubt he’s going to add more unhinged reveals rather than just elaborate on the plot lines he’s already set up
>>739448987I'd take unhinged reveals over him not revealing anything, which is more likely to happen.
>>739448345nah these threads are just your average /v/ thread in terms of quality now
>>739448828These mean Frisk and Chara onee-samas are grooming poor shota Kris...
>>739448987>unhinged revealsAsriel and Chara are both tucked away at the tail end of Undertale.
>>739448815whatever scant evidence there is for a time loop does not paint kris as the one responsible or aware of it if kris has done this before he almost certainly was not in the role of the cage, out of everyone his supposed role is the one that fits the least, all kris has is the soul, him being made of 'human parts and soul' doesn't make sense for a natural flesh and blood human instead of a construct like the vessel
>>739448987you act as if half of undertale’s plot wasn’t crammed into the fucking true lab
>>739448815This is an old theory as well, the third entity theory. Probably the best piece of evidence is how Kris already had a cage that has seem a few crashes before we come in, sadly only Jaru made a video that compiles evidence for this theory since it's super hated.
>>739449131This is what scares me the most, that the vast majority of plot points are just crammed in Chapter 6 and 7, like with the info dump at the end of neutral and the true lab in undertale.
Andrew Cunningham released the second part of his new theory video. The first one was really boring and didn't provide new information, so I don't care to watch it.
>>739448959That would be lame and feel like blueballs.
>>739449131Don't confuse plot with story and lore. Besides that, true.
>>739448689and yet...that might not be the absolute endhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkvdhHEuCNY
>>739449047They are recurring, daily threads, oftentimes multiple per day. They don't belong on /v/.
>>739449196Are you going to post a link or?
>>739449214Yeah but this whole game has been nothing but blueballing.
>>739447162True. Even FemKris theory was only possible because of new information that was given in episode 4 that was never once mentioned before.
>>739447574Papyrus knight
>>739449110>>739449131Undertale was also a much shorter game and even then shit like Chara and Asriel’s story were already set up to a degree. Meanwhile Deltarune already has half a dozen unresolved plot point with chapter 6-7 most likely revolving around answering them so I seriously doubt he’s going to set up more mystery’s or twists during chapter 5
>>739449254faint courage being the game over theme for every chapter from 2 onwards instead of each having it's own theme was another disappointment
>>739449274Ink Theory video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TrrPvz6nHISomebody watch this and give a summary.
>>739449270and all the daily recurring gacha, eceleb, and culture war threads belong?
>>739449394just think of it as kris' motif
>>739449429Nowadays you can just have the AI do that.
>>739446779I a much bigger fan of the Kris x Vessel dating theory inspired by both the interactions between the gold and silver lion cage car things and the interaction between the swan boat and the Discarded Machine To Kick Your Own Ass.
I just deltaruined my pants WAITING
>>739446779I'll wipe every hint of color off that jackass mophead if it means regaining my precious creation.>>739448815A Chara is fine too.
>>739448815>>739449146I was under the impression that Kris was ripping his own soul out before YOU were ever a part of the story. Noelle comments that Kris hasn't seemed like himself for a long time, so I assumed something happened to his soul after he removed it at some point. Isn't that why we take control of him? I thought that Kris couldn't enter dark worlds without a soul.
>>739449104Giwtwm
>>739449708>I'll wipe every hint of color off that jackass mophead if it means regaining my precious creation.>implying you haven't already done that
>>739446779Suselle will ruin chapter 5, I just know it will.
>>739449782Oh no what are they doing to him...
>>739449739Noelle does comment that she hasn't heard the real Kris in a long while in weird, even though they spoke before we got here. Susie also never heard the real Kris despite talking to him before we got here, too.
>>739449846>implying Toby will confirm ANY ship before chapter 7
>>739449802My Vessel would never assault me with hockey equipment, unlike a certain traitorous scumbag who did so twice.
>>739449739in ch4 noelle makes it sound like kris 'acting weird' is a pretty recent development susie thinks it's normal for kris, but she doesn't know kris nearly as well as noelle does although we don't get a specific date, i'm inclined to believe it's only been a few weeks to a month tops, although it could be possible it just started with ch1 since that's when noelle actually comments on kris being strangely talkative
>>739449429This is the first time, I thought you were linking the second part.
>>739449739Kris was always ripping his own soul out as practice for the arrival of the red soul. He had to have still had his original soul on him when he wrote that save point in the chapter 1 dark world. When the red soul arrived he gave his original soul to the knight, starting off the events of the game.
>>739449936I mean IT IS the festival, it's not far-fetched to believe "taking someone to the festival" is supposed to be a romantic thing, like asking if they want to be your valentine.
>>739449891Kris is simply the raped, every female will always molest him
>>739449846Just imagine. A non-stop melty, for 3+ years on the WAIT, over something that was obvious years ago.Suselle will mindbreak the /v/ fags.
>>739449429>>739449959Never mind, it's just the non-patreon release of the first part. LMAO.
>>739447574Any combination of Mother 3 ending, FFTA ending, OMORI ending, homestuck ending. I think the single most important things for the ending to be good is Dess being saved and brought home and any sort of answers for the Gaster/player/mystery box shit.Also the inevitable Suselle is gonna piss off a lot non-npc fans.
>>739450018>every female will always molest himGOD I wish I was Kris (unless the one doing the raping was Alphys)
Splashing acid on Kris’s face and breaking her puny hands (she hit me with a hockey puck once)
>>739449113I don't think there is a time loop. Just one great reset. The game we see now is not the one Kris played. The wired route was the one and only route, what Kris choose to do, what the prophecy intended. There was none of this recruit enemies nonsense. The shadow crystals give a glimpse into this past run Kris did (Susie glaring at you, coldly, Noelle whispering something close to you)The prophecy wanted Noelle to become strong enough to do... something idk. Either Kris or someone else did not like this outcome so a reset accrued. Now everyone in the know is trying to course correct in their own way. Gaster with the vessel, Kris working with the Knight, Ralsei with pacifism, etc. We were brought on in a vain attempt to change the outcome, as our potential was observed in Undertale
>>739450091>unless the one doing the raping was Alphysfaggot
what could Toby do that would make you guys TOLERATE suselle?
>>739449561Yeah, that theory has far more backing than this and it's also another hint at the Vessel's return. Although it implies the Vessel is barely better than Kris based on one of the Pippins comment.
>>739450017it is, both rudy and berdly suggest that taking noelle to the festival would be seen as a romantic gesture unfortunately for noelle, susie is as dense as a brick and will almost certainly not see it that way
>>739450080I'm not a susellefag, anon. I'm just ahead of the curve. I saw the terrible writing on the wall years ago.
>time loopWhere the hell did people pull this idea from? That requires some serious ass-pulling.
>>739449708What about a Frisk?
>the spamton tranny is still crying about toby not adhering to his desiresI guess he picked the ideal avatar for his public dilations.
>>739450180Reduce the gushing, make it a slow burn, let them have normal interactions before it gets romantic, let them know each other for real. But they still would have zero chemistry.
>>739449846the festival is the make or break point.i expect it to go one of three ways>suselle>entire carnival is weird and awkward as toby tries to force those two to work while kris is just kinda shoved to the side>not suselle>susie and noelle try to make it work during the carnival but everything falls flat and noelle is forced to admit that they're incompatible>krusie>kris and susie are complete gremlins throughout the entire thing and noelle is forced off to the side.
>>739450180nothing he's proven in both ch2 and ch4 that he'll continuously write both of them in the most generic yurislop way possible to force a relationshipit will only be acceptable if it turns out he was baiting the entire time, which is unlikely
>>739450108Fuck no, I like her pretty. I prefer to rape her into loving me instead, then once she's obsessed with me to no end I drop her like a hot potato and never look back
>>739450180He should use those Splatoon lesbians as a template.
>>739450290Unused alternate chapter 1 start with Susie begging for Kris to wake up.
>>739450290that theory has existed since CH1 and its driven by a cut intro where susie begs kris to wake up.
>>739450290Time loop was a theory since the Chapter 1 days.
>>739450409>unusedIn other words, not canon
>the code 1225 has to refer to Dess>why? because it's a December holiday, get it?Yeah there are quite a few major holidays in December, but only one takes place on the 25th. I've never seen anyone acknowledge this before.
>>739450091I understand why he was so loyal to Dess since she was the main perpetrator.
>>739450461The entire family is nothing but Christmas puns you fucking pseud.
Not deltarune related, undertale instead. But I'm 1000% certain Alphys would genuinely and sincerely LOVE to sit in a chair and watch Undyne fuck the shit out of Mad Mew Mew. Like that's her favorite anime waifu. She doesn't have to sit on the sidelines sad and yearning from a respectful distance Alphys would love to invite her over regularly to act out her wild Undyne x Mew Mew fanfics.
>>739450108Kris is already fat and short you don’t need to make her an ugly cripple
>>739450341there is another: the festival straight up gets derailed in some way>susie gets blamed for destroying the church and doesn't get to be part of it>noelle gets locked up home because of Carol>the festival itself gets cancelled because of the church's destruction and undyne going missing>asgore opens a fountain in the middle of it before anything major happens
>>739450338thisas is stands it genuinely reads as an intentionally bad relationshiplike they're going to mutually agree to be friends instead
pick one
>>739448848It's something I found from google, but it's of Twin Peaks, specifically the entrance to The Black Lodge. There have been quite a few TP parallels in DR including the lodge/shelter.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuYJxV5C_1w
>>739450740Right mating press creampieing left while I watch
>>739450597alphys would definitely get off watching undyne and asgore fuck, specially considering she has the hots for both and the age gap and pseudo incest would be a plus for her
>>739450180At this point in the story, nothing. First, there would have to be more of a setup pre the events of deltarune, Noelle being nice to Susie that one time is not enough. Second, Noelle would have to participate in every chapter, slowly develop their relationship over time. Minimize the sitting next to each other while blushing crap. Fuck sakes, all the Suselle art is just that because there is actually nothing there.God, at least Alphyne has the excuse of the two bitches knowing each other way before so Frisk comes along so I could at least begrudgingly buy that.
I want a hospital dark world for chapter 6, lots of potential for strange enemies based on medical devices and actual viruses as a counterpart to viruskun. The weird route could involve Berdley having died from his injuries during snowgrave and you going down to the morgue instead for whatever reason.
>>739450496how come no one talks about kris molested theory
>>739450829>the morgueI don't think a monster hospital would have a morgue. Not as we know them, at least. Dust and all that.
>>739450764based twin peaks noticerToby seems really inspired by Lynch >"I get that. David Lynch once said that he creates things because once he gets an idea in his head he just wants to get it out. I think that's also the case for me. I really can't help but do something once I get an idea for it. I can't be comfortable until I do."
>>739450874>"monster" hospitalThat's what (((they))) want you to think, anon
>>739446779Yes, obviously. The opening of the game is just there to emphasize that the player character is distinct from you, the player, and that your interests can be (and turn out to be) opposed.
>>739450312nta but Frisk is aight. I prefer Chara tho
>>739446779I don't know how that would work since you literally create the Vessel in it's adult form already and give it a personality that Kris doesn't have. Also this would imply that somehow there's an enourmous time skip between the depths part and the start of the game which doesn't really make sense since nothing seems to imply it.Anyways Kris is my baby girl that I will torture Omega Flowey style at the end of the Weird Route.
>>739450180Kruise is good because it's effortless, funny and hot blooded.Kriselle is good because it's tragic and soaked with old tears.If Suselle was gonna be good it needs either more hot blood or more tears. It needs to be wetter. Right now it's DRY.
>>739451048Copies are monochrome, but Kris was colored with care by everyone who loved him
>>739451048I'm gonna torture kris at the festival lmao
>>739447072Stop wasting salami it's expensive
>>739450916How can he not inspire you honestly
>>739451090This still doesn't explain why she isn't bald or where's this time skip where the Vessel gets turned into a little genderless kid.
>>739451087Kruise is borderline delusional, there is zero romantic attraction between them, it would be even more forced than Suselle.It is SO extremely obvious that Kriselle is the most natural option but that Noelle suppresses her true feelings towards Kris for whatever reason.
>>739451179I fucking love him
>>739451048"The vessel" is nondiegetic and Kris is a boy
>>739450764I really wish Toby hadn't pulled his punches with the weird route stuff, it was very clearly pulling from some of the darker Twin Peaks stuff and 13 year olds couldn't handle it.
>>739450580December isn't directly related to Christmas though, it's merely the month that it takes place in. Noelle, Carol, and Rudolph are all direct references to the holiday. This is even themed in game, with Dess's room being the only one in the house that has no Christmas imagery in it. 1225 ain't Dess.
>>739451296I can't believe i was BOB all along...
>>739450597Mad Mew Mew unironically respects them too much for her to do that.
>>739451245Kris is a cute girl and the Vessel is real and also my sweet daughter.
>>739450180Give Kris a hotter girlfriend. If Toby made Kress real and canon(as then original genuine normal relationship and not the molestation meme irony poisoned degens made it) and rescues Dess to give to Kris Noelle and Susie can do whatever they want.
>>739451296>Dess kisses Kris in the Dark World like Laura kissing Agent Cooper in the Red Room
>>739450723i expect the derailment to be near the end of it, there's been too much buildup for the carnival for it to just be skipped>church is solved early in the day when kris and susie need to take darkners to the school, alvin agrees to keep things a secret and let them take the darkners as long as they help pick the place up.>that or alvin has already been taken "out of the picture" since he knows one of the codes.>carol ends up having to let noelle go for the sake of the conspiracy.and then the process of everything falling apart builds up during the carnival, there's already three potential dark worlds all at once.>the fountain that the conspiracy gang intends to make >asgore ends up finding out about toriel and sans + the fact that he can now prove the conspiracy with the black shard>krusie option: noelle having a breakdown >other options: noelle finding out about dark worlds and thinking she can use them to preserve rudy
>>739451449Sorry anon best he can do is make Kerdly canon.
>>739450108Please treat your humans with care, don't harm them.
>>739451423Why would you want your daughter to be literally braindead
>>739451229>there is zero romantic attraction between thembait used to be believable
>>739451449This is actually a very good solution. Though in the actual story we're probably going to get, in the normal route, Kris is going to have to choose between helping "Dess" and saving Susie, and he will choose the later.
>>739451505My grey daughter is not braindead i literally gave her a personality.
>>739451569The whole point of a "vessel" is that it has no will of its own and thus you can use it as a meat suit and do whatever you want with no pushback.
>>739451524>what is friendship hurrYou sound like a pornsick tumblr queer
>>739450108I just need her to turn into an obsessed yandere, I don't want deer I want edgy tomboy with a knife.
>>739451234Can't help but wonder what terrible thing happened in Lynch's dark world adventure that he cut ties. What did the boys do when they became darkners?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W056Y36kGdo
>>739451651Men and woman can't be platonic friends
>>739451623The Vessel making section implies that the Vessel is somewhat aware, so they won't be braindead. Think of the Vessel as a "self-insert" OC.
>>739451449Since Kris is a girl her hetero love interest is Berdly. He's actually the hottest guy in her class.
>>739450597>>739451394Forgot to add that Alphys canonically thinks Mad Mew Mew is disrespectful towards the original character, too.
>>739451245>"The vessel" is nondiegetic
>>739451724That's why Kris is a girl. Also you are wrong.
>>739451734>He's actually the hottest guy in her class.That's actually Jockington.
prove to me that kris isn't a dude
>>739451724nta but they can, but kris and susie obviously have romantic undertones in many of there scenes the most obvious ones are kris pulling susie away from minikris and the diner date
>>739451623The Vessel is probably going to have a different personality from us all things considered.
>>739451245Kris a girl shut up.
>>739451814I will give you five (5) dark dollars if you believe that Kris is a girl.
>>739451814mr generosity confirms that kris is the wife in her relationship with the cookie kris is a solid 5'0" based on the door height chartkris also has dainty princess hands according to noelle
>>739451815>kris pulling susie away from minikris and the diner dateI don't see how that is romantic. Imagine if Susie was male, would you think there were homoerotic undertones? Obviously not, they're more like siblings or brothers in arms than romantic partners. There is more to romantic attraction than just caring about each other
>>739451716Gosh I miss him so much
>>739451990>Kris is a 5'0 petite girlArgggg...
>>739451814A lesbian and a straight man are in love with her. Most of her friends are girls.
>>739450842Ever since it broke containment, doelesting hasn't been as strong in these lands.
If you thought digital circus, the boys, chainsaw man, homestuck or even game of thrones had bad endings you ain't seen nothing yet. Deltarune will have an ending SO BAD it will change the course of historical events.
>>739452096It's okay the ending will come out in a period where endings will be good again.
>>739451021Frisk is my favorite human even if I really like both, but Chara definitely has more fans. You get used to your favorite taking a backseat.
>>739452096Don't think so. The author clearly has a strong vision of the ending. It just won't be nearly as appealing to others as it was for him, since that's how most dreams are.
>>739447162>theoryfags trying to anticipate what will happens is a pointless exerciseHalf of the enjoyment of a story is anticipating what comes next, you don't just mindlessly clap at the story when it presents things to you. If a story cannot captivate you enough to make you speculate on what could and couldn't happen, then it either isn't doing a good job as a story, or you lack imagination.Surely you have some ideas yourself of where the story could go, anon.
>>739451994Bro if two dudes had that diner date that would be gayer the actual gay sex. You are insane. Or more likely being contrarian for the sake of it and everyone should ignore you're absurd bullshit.
I love these little drawings of Kris's childhood
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>>739451524>>739451815>optional>optional>optionalYeah I don't care. People love to bring up these easily missed scenes like it's set in stone. Most of the Krusie stuff is side shit and you're deluding yourself if you think collecting all the secret Krusie moments will get you anything
>>739451994offering someone to taste your hair after they yanked you towards them is not a platonic response, nor a sibling one unless they're both 3the diner date is also clearly supposed to have some romantic flair to it, qc even gives susie a free sundae after commenting to kris on how going to the diner after church is nostalgic >but kris and asriel used to do it!yes, but kris isn't trying to be asriel here, the only ritual that's carried over is drawing on the window afterwards, and susie only joins in because kris started it
The ch3 near-kiss is 100% proof that Kris and Susie are being ship-teased. That would not exist otherwise.
>>739452096deltarune's ending is the only thing that has been set in stone the entire timethe entire reason it's being made is because toby got a vision of the ending over a decade ago
>>739452253Kricunny ToT...
>>739452341>no see optional stuff just doesnt count because uhhhh it doesnt ok?playing the game is optional
>>739451048Yeah, it doesn't make much sense unless the Vessel got deaged and time traveled several years earlier to become Frisk.Also humans are not for torturing but for nurture.
>>739452341it being optional means it actually matters to the characters because it isn't forced
>>739451449>(as then original genuine normal relationship and not the molestation meme irony poisoned degens made it)Kress was always a degenerate ship you POSER.
>>739452342>offering someone to taste your hair after they yanked you towards them is not a platonic response, nor a sibling one unless they're both 3That's meaningless imo, Susie doesn't operate how a normal person would, or would you say she has an eating disorder because she eats chalk?>qc even gives susie a free sundae after commenting to kris on how going to the diner after church is nostalgic ok and?
>>739452396>>739452170I don't understand what the point of this is. Like, just because the ending was the first thing he thought of it magically makes it impossible for it to be stupid worthless garbage only Toby thinks is good? Like I honestly think that makes it more likely to be pretentious bullshit no one else likes.
>>739451734>femkris>heterothe fucker is a edgy "non-binary" dipshit who surrounds herself with dykes and a token twink. there is no universe where that faggot isn't some turbo tumblr dyke
>>739450341suselle is going to happen during the festival, whether or not we like it. there's too much build-up at this point that it's cope to pretend like it won't happen (on the normal route). ralsei is very insistent on making sure both susie and noelle go to the festival when you talk about going to the festival with noelle in chapter 3, even on the normal route, so it's definitely fated that something important will happen between themhowever, i do have some faith that it will be wrapped up quickly and won't suffocate the chapter. there's too much important stuff to get to
>work as a substitute teacher>doing the rounds to make sure kids are doing their work>5th graders are playing deltarune FNF modsremember this fact anytime you are arguing with someone in one of these threads. You are probably arguing with a 10 year old.
>susellefags when i chop off all their limbs and scoop out their eyeballs with a rusty spoon
>>739451695So you want Chara 2?
>>739453080You should tell the kids their taste is trash
>>739452943Kris is straight. That's the reason she doesn't like being shipped with Noelle.
>>739451814Depends if I feel hard for her or not.
>>739453080It really warms my heart when I see kids doing shit I used to do when I was their age, I used to watch Undertale fan animations all those years ago when I was a wee lad, now I see kids watching the same fan animations on their own.
>>739453107Correct! She has potential to be my partner for Deltarune and by Gaster I'll do it if it's an OPTION. SOUL and Kris against everyone, it will be glorious.
>>739452096Toby already knows it's going to be controversial which is why he said so many times he's happy as long as one person likes it.
>>739452443>>739452536The way I see it is this. The shit you have to sit through is the shit Toby 100% wanted and needed you to see. It's vital to understanding the plot and the characters, everything else is just the cherry on top. You can't build a relationship on side content, there needs to be a set amount of ''forced'' scenes so the relationship makes sense to people who won't autistically search through the game for every piece of dialogue there is to find. These scenes are pretty easy to miss from what I remember, I only found out about them from here. Most normies are going to play through this game one, maybe twice. The end result needs to make sense to themYou are an entity in the game btw. Whatever you do is forced, whether Kris likes it or not. The things the characters do on their own is not forced, at least not in universe.
>>739453252Until some fat tiktok zoomie kills xemself over the ending
>>739453252I'll like it... :)>>739453290fuck them kids
>>739453289Deltarune is not a romance. It's secondary to the main plot, which is why it's optional.
>>739453390Tell that to double digit IQ normoid golems, they cannot see that deep
>>739453102MFs out here trying to charamax
>>739453390SOUL x Kris is not optional, it's inevitable.
I'm not to worried about Suselle because with how long he's taking to make the game we will be deep in Trumps third or forth term and putting gays in a game would be getting Toby the death penalty even if he tries to hide in a different country.
>>739452454I'll be kind to her after she's mindbroken after all the torture.
>>739453365I miss her
>>739453630>inb4 Toby has characters spout about how much they love israel
>>739446779Was OP the faggot all along?
>>739453191it's very sweet to see. Plus I get bonus points with the kids when I know what they're talking about. A whole class will shut up and do their work if I tell them I've played minecraft since before you could sprint.
>>739453252We have to be ready to drag Toby out of his house and pull him apart if the ending sucks. It's the most important thing we as a society can do.
>>739452096It might disappoint some people but I can already smell the self indulgent cringe on the wind so I'm immunized against the fallout I'm just glad Toby got people to care about his retarded story
>>739453630Do people think Trump is an immortal vampire? The dude is 80 years old.
>>739453731Anon...
>>739453390If there is going to be any resolution to all the ship bait and a pairing get confirmed 100%, then it has to make sense without all the side content. Otherwise you're playing through the game when two characters suddenly start fucking and you have no clue why
Only few weeks before we see the Festival. What are your hopes for Susie interactions?
>>739452417Uoooohhh human cunny!
>>739453390Romance is a key element in the story, you cannot ignore it.
>>739453742till they ask you to do that fucking 6 7 hand gesture
How will you react when berdly is revealed to be the girl
>>739453080I'm happy kids still like UT/DR.
>>739453962>Romance is a key element in the storyProof?
>>739453904>Only few weeks before we see the FestivalIf your definition of "few" is +5, then maybe.
is this the breaking point? We're still somehow hitting bump limit but there's NOTHING left to fucking discuss
>>739453987
>>739453993The prophecy panels. Also the entire thing with Asgore and Stories, and the scenes with Susie and Noelle, which, unless you are on the weird route, you can't skip. You can refuse to watch them, but they still happen anyway.
>>739453904>only few weeksI wish I was a optimistic as you
>>739453229Kinda based. Most people only focus on the doe for these fantasies but Kris has more potential for that. >>739453696I guess that's a form of aftercare.
>>739453987It will have to be in the hospital as a variation of the "I have a vagina!" post. And then I will clap like a real American
>>739454159>Stories How the hell did Toriel get turned into that.
God damn it. People need to stop making deltarune threads because every time I see one I start thinking about all the different ways the ending could piss me off four or five years from now and I just get angrier and angrier. FUCK YOU TOBY FOX YOU HACK
>>739454115That’s because every here is a giga autist who’s effectively talking to themselves. Give it a month without an update and these threads will unironically devolve into /utg/ levels of brainrot
>>739453904I can't believe there's still people that think this shit is releasing on June
>>739454276nigga don't ever compare us to /utg/, this is the deltarune thread not the pippins and tenna jerk off contest
>>739453390Deltarune totally is a furry dating sim which is why I skip anything that doesn't have my self-insert and a furry waifu.
dess drowned in the lake trying to save kris from drowning.
>>739454274I personally have just accepted that the normal route will have a bad ending. I only hope that the Weird Route will still give me the satisfaction of ruining the life of the main characters.
>>739454293LolSeptember at best boys and men
>>739454115>>739454276>dr-philips-cdi is samefagging againYou're a top 1% reddit poster I don't get why you're so obsessed with how fast these threads move.
>>739454380I believe in August.
>>739452164Frisk is super dependent on the individual headcanon. There are a few traits that are set in stone but it's mostly down to your interpretation. Mine is pretty dry and generic, Chara is a lot more spicy. Also Chasriel comes with that and I'm a sucker for tragic ''what could have been'' relationships
>>739454324that's why i gave you guys a month before it becomes terminal
>>739454373Anon it's quite easy see>Some insane shit goes down in chapter 5>you have to go all the way back in order to do a cancelled weird route and acquire the twisted route to go on and finish the game
>>739453904Everyone is focusing on your copium overdose so I will answer you. We're probably getting some funny carnival games with her
>>739454443Nah. Even with how much of a mess 2015 /utg/ was, it took years for it to become as bad as it is now.
>>739454359Way to tame nigga this ain't real life. Also deer are good swimmers
>>739453289keep in mind that the suselle scenes you have to sit through are forced in not just the literal way, but in the "these two do not work well together" wayall of them are uncomfortable, awkward, and they just keep going in an attempt to find something for susie and noelle to properly connect on until broken by something else (berdly interrupting, (you) progressing the holiday house plotline)compare this to the krusie scenes that are just "natural" and flow perfectly.now, you and i both know that toby's capable of good writing. one minute there's a well written krusie dinner date and the next there's a stiff suselle scene.the only explanation thats not "toby's just too bind to see how hard he's fucking up his writing with suselle" is that he's intentionally making the scenes rough so that noelle's fantasy being shattered during the carnival makes sense.if its not being set up to be broken then suselle is going to outright murder the game later on.
>>739450740I want Susie to peg me in the ass while i eat Noelle out and they both call me pathetic
I just hope my favorite artists who draw exclusively Kriselle don't quit the fandom after chapter 5......
>>739454625dess drowned in the lake trying to save kris from drowning who jumped in the lake to get away from dess molesting him
>>739454359why would kris and dess be in the lake when the incident clearly happened at the shelter at the opposite end of town
>>739454498Sorry but I think the aborted Weird Route theory is retarded. I refuse to believe the key to the true ending is just>yeah you just kill a few darkners in Chapter 2 then you stop completely and just play the game normally again as if you were in the normal route To me it feels extremely lame.
>>739454293I know right baka It's obviously dropping this month
>>739454443Still better than your home at r/Deltarune
>>739454394not the redditor for fucks sake i'm not even the first guy you replied to its just that these threads have become the same shit repeated over and over again and its not hard to notice it. if you think these threads have meaningful discourse in them more power too you but don't be surprised when people make one of the five jokes available of this place
>>739447072Supremely wrong take.
>>739454703anon, think about the room in which the black deer sprite is killed by Kris.
>>739454656That's all well and good but why does Susie randomly think of Noelle in Chapter 4 then questions herself about why she is even doing that in a seemingly confused/nervous way
>>739454706I think it's because this is going off the assumption that DELTARUNE is an experiment by W.D. Gaster, and the most batshit thing you can do is starting the weird route, aborting it, and then acquiring the TwistedSwd which is a really shitty sword stats-wise
>>739454394>implying you use reddit yourselflol lmfao get fucked niggerfaggot
Objectively I know Toby is ontologically incapable of anything but Suselle ending but that does make me wonder why every single drawn our Suselle moment has them talking about Kris half the time. Like is he maliciously fucking with us or what.
>>739448953>Dess is completely irrelevant and ran away from home.This is genuinely the most realistic scenario
>>739454816another case of toby trying to force a connection where there is none.even there its weird, fucks with the mood, and doesnt add anything.
>>739453971My rule is I only do it when one student is watching and then I act like I have no clue what they're talking about when they tell the other kids.
>>739454815doesn't look like a lake to me boss
>>739454432>I'm a sucker for tragic ''what could have been'' relationshipsPatrician taste.
>>739454937Does that explanation seriously make sense to you
>>739454914Because Noelle loves Kris but is too immature to admit it to herself and probably also conflicted because she blames Kris on some level for what happened to Dess
>>739454946KEK fuckin genius
>>739454276>>739454443You haven’t been in /utg/ in ages if you think these threads are even close to winding up like them. These threads are suffering from burnout and limited posters, /utg/ is just fully of retarded faggots
>>739454937what's weird about that scene is in ch3 when susie is listing off the people she cares about/ considers friends, noelle is not among them
>>739454914It's unironically weird route foreshadowing
>>739454989does "yeah i like this person and this couch reminds me of them" make sense to you?
>>739454914Noelle loves kris more than susie
>>739453858Why do people keep insisting that Deltarune is meant to appeal to random gamer n° 284462 who played through the game once and forgot about it instead of all those fags out there that are afflicted by the same type of "hidden details enhance the story" autism as Toby?
>>739454914Toby is a homestuckfag that knows that shipbaiting generates discourse meaning that he’ll more than likely draw these threads out as long as possible
>>739454432Honestly Frisk has as much character as Chara imo, probably even more so but it's not as explicit because she doesn't have her own "end of genocide" moment (which I prefer). Frisk doesn't have any tragic ships either because she's a hopeful character, too.
>>739455094Ok, if you think it makes sense, I won't question it, no point in doing so when the truth will be revealed in a few months anyway.
I've put 1000% of my hopium on Gerson. Going through all his dialog is the only thing that makes me think the ending might be cool instead of lame and bad. I know that's a lot of weight to put on one characters shoulders but it is what it is.
>>739455121because Toby still has to pretend to be a competent writer to appeal to the normies and get their money. He isn’t Scott
>>739454990>immature to admit iti think it's more that she's too scared to ask kris what their relationship even is, since kris emotionally cut off their relationship a long time ago and keeps her at an arms lengthif she admits that she loves him, what happens if kris doesn't reciprocate? what if it damages their relationship even further? i don't think noelle can handle losing anyone more than she already has so she forces those emotions down and pretends she doesn't have themdespite this, all it takes is kris acting a little goofy with her for all of them to come back, and as we see in the weird route, kris acting like her old self and comforting her immediately breaks the dam and noelle is head over heels
I hope Toby starts solving shit by this chapter, if he keeps making mystery boxes he's going to have no idea how to solve them by chapter 7
>>739454879Sorry, the redditor is this faggot >>739454770. Should've realized you were different people because you didn't mention /utg/ while dr-philip-cdi here loves it.
>>739455185>Frisk doesn't have any tragic ships either because she's a hopeful character, too.I mean, Flowisk is kinda a doomed ship (even if it probably is the best possible ending for Flowey).
>>739455320take your namefag drama somewhere else nigger
>>739455121A lot of people like to think they're hidden detail fans but usually they're not really hidden detail fans. Unless someone can tell me what specific concepts connect knight to ralsei, lancer and friendship, they're not a dig-deepet.
>>739450740Doe
>>739455198yeah, i just think that the suselle scenes being stiff and awkward with the krusie ones hitting a home run every time is intentional.all we can do is wait and see if toby's a good writer or not.
>>739455360I don't call him out too much but fair enough. Won't make these threads into the /utg/ he desires.
any of you guys play that mantle fangame?
>>739455485no, tell us more
>>739455274He already did start the process in chapter 4, like he started tying the threads between eram and forgotten man , people just don't pay enough attention
>>739446779thank you, kris chan
>>739454115That's the raw power of WAITing. It's self-sustaining, nothing can stop it outside of Chapter 5 itself.
>>739454656For the record I don't think Suselle will happen. Everything about it makes me think it's setting up Noelle for a rejection. Having it be played straight adds nothing to the story. The big Suselle scenes can basically be skipped as well. The ferris wheel can be skipped, on your very first playtrough btw while you have to sit down and wait for the dialogue to slowly roll down with the house scene in ch4. No one watched that shit first time playing, they were to busy trying to fuck over Kris. The general gist you need to get from Susielle is that Noelle is crazy about her and that Susie MIGHT like her in a romantic way as well, and you can get that by skipping the big Suselle scenes.I won't deny that Kris and Susie are not written well but I'm not Krusie pilled enough to see it as romantic. I've seen the MiniKris type scene in other media before where two best friends were pushed into a vaguely romantic situation and I see it just as that. A gag scene spiced with bait. Again a lot of Krusie stuff can be missed, I would shit up if at least half was obligatory but it's just not.
>>739455523qrd?
Lying in bed with Noelle. She's wearing a lovely set of lingerie, soft fabric against softer fur. She's a bit of a huffy, anxious type, always overthinking, always quietly braced for something. But she secretly loves being touched and pet more than almost anything in the world. As we lie there, my hands slowly make their way over to her, the drowsy doe unaware of the loving assault coming her way. Then, a quick, startled gasp, almost a short, breathy sound between a huff and a laugh, as arms wrap around her and my hands do their work.My fingers gently dance vertically across her belly, through the dense, impossibly soft winter fur there, saying more about my affection for her than any amount of words could. Her back turned to me, her head can only turn to meet my face halfway, those large dark eyes catching mine with that particular expression she wears, the one she thinks reads as annoyed, but gives itself away entirely by the faint warmth rising at the tips of her ears, that slight deer-flush only I am positioned to notice. Her antlers tip back slightly. She refuses to admit a thing.And how much my hands loved her back: hours would be spent with her body in my arms, my fingers occasionally wandering to tease at her hip, the soft inner part of a thigh, but never straying too far from my favorite place, that warm, deep-furred expanse of her belly and waist, which she pretended to find ticklish purely as a point of objection. I would never have enough of her.So long would we stay in such a position, her breathing slowly deepening, her proud and anxious frame unknotting itself increment by increment beneath my hands, that we would both wake to the same configuration. Neither of us wanting to surrender the warmth of the bed or each other, she less willing to say so than I, we would reluctantly surface into the cold morning, if only to privately look forward, all day, to coming back.
>>739455516He's talking about soulblazers.https://youtu.be/en6unYyc1fg
>>739455613>The ferris wheel can be skippedYou can refuse to watch it but it still happens off-screen
>>739454816First of all, it's no secret that Susie wants to, at the very least, be friends with Noelle. She's currently on a friend making spree. Noelle was nice to her that one time, so she was immediately placed on Susie's nice list (just like Toriel was). Of course she would think about her from time to time.Secondly, this type of dialogue only happens immediately after Susie's done interacting with Noelle. She doesn't think about her once in ch3 and that might have been the same in ch4 if it wasn't for the bunker codesThirdly, it only happens when you interact with shit that Susie associates with Noelle like the Christmas stuff or the couchHonestly, how do the two of them getting together contribute to the plot, drive the narrative, further the message of the game. How does it serve the story?>but but alphyneAlphyne was for the most part written as a joke, it's not in the center of the story like this will they won't they shit in Deltarune. Besides, Alphys was originally a dude, only changes made were adding eyelashes. It wasn't written from the ground up as a dyke ship, it was always shit
>>739454706Toby unironically would NOT do that, yeah.
>>739454914Toby shipbaits everyone between Kris, Noelle, Susie, Ralsei and Berdly plus it's foreshadowing that Noelle had feelings for Kris that you must exploit in the weird route.
>>739455121Whatever happens must make sense to the most braindead normie out there. Imagine if the Chara and Asriel lore was optional in Undertale, the finale would make no fucking sense on most people's first playthrough
>>739450461>>739451319>there are quite a few major holidays in DecemberNo there aren't. It's Christmas.
>>739455620Roots as a musical theme is specifically shadow crystal stuff related to friend/spamton/eram, and he put the roots prophecy in the chm 4 egg man hallway. There's more little details but that's a huge one people just ignore.
>>739455121Because he giga nerfed Jackenstein for them. Deltarune's intended audience is the v-tubers playing it.
>>739455881Chara and Asriel lore is optional. The brain dead normie gets a random neutral ending and never plays the game again.
>>739455334Flowisk is only doomed because Flowey can't feel anything, any Flowey anything really is doomed, meanwhile Chasriel is actual doomed because they are fuckups.
Favorite theory that actually make sense? For me it's Fem Kris
>>739455765Yeah, but I'm making the case that whatever happens later on needs to make sense to the player that skips that shit. If Noelle rejection is on the table then it's fine because there are other scenes that drive that setup home. If Suselle is played straight then it's dogshit because you can miss a vital part of their relationship forming.
>>739448631I kind of want the last part of the game to go full Faith and have rotoscoping the sprites out of the blue.
I think the game should end with Susie Kris and Noelle dating three brand new characters we don't see until chapter 7.
>>739456046That's incorrect, you learn about the fallen human and Asriel in every route at New Home. It's just the truth behind them is hidden in true pacifist.
>>739456046I'm talking about the stuff pre Asgore lore dump and the true pacifist ending. It gives you enough info to not say ''who the fuck is this guy?'' once Asriel shows up. If they quit after a neutral ending that's fine, the game has multiple endings but Deltarune only has one (allegedly). Whatever happens at the end needs to make at least a little sense
>>739456336kris ends up dating muffet
>>739456336Ah, the good old Voltron strategy
I know Toby made some sprites for Kris' textbox, so, when do we think are we going to see them talk?
I think the game should end like that one bit with the sex in Steven Kings IT. Like there is more than one girl so it has to be changed up a little but it should end with them trapped in darkness until they all have sex in every combination of 2 of them.
>>739456524final line of the game, kris turns to the screen:>player, I remember you're weird routes...
>>739456161There's a good chance to show Susie and Noelle growing closer if in Chapter 5 we get Noelle as a party member while Susie is still in the party. I actually do wonder if the next Noelle section will be Kris and Noelle only or if at some point Susie will join in too. In Dragon Blazers the fire mage does go away, so Ralsei will probably leave the party for some time.
>>739456524At the end of both routes. In one she's thanking us and in the other she's begging for mercy.
>>739456524about 2 weeks
>>739455185>Honestly Frisk has as much character as CharaI must have been speed reading because I honestly can't remember much besides the flirting. Chara has enough info to piece together what she was like. Interpretations varied by a lot for a while but Toby narrowed it down over the last few years, steadily drip feeding lore that supports a more nuanced characterization of her
>this is an evil creature according to people here
>>739456919
>>739456161>>739455613NTA but I'm not seeing what a Noelle rejection is supposed to add to the story either, even though I don't like Suselle. Seems kinda stupid to add all this obvious romantic build-up (which, yeah, I guess is technically 'optional' in the broadest sense) only to have nothing happen. It would be confusing to players who actually did watch those scenes and you could write a rejection story without taking as much time away from the main story.And you really can't actually 'skip' the Suselle scenes in Chapter 4's normal route anyway, Susie still adamantly tells Carol she's taking her daughter to the festival which has always been shown to be a romantic gesture just minutes earlier when Berdly asks out Noelle.
>>739456919She's a very good girl who deserves hugs and cakes and also a hammer dropped on her head.
>>739456953I love goomy so much. Favorite deltarune artist who doesn't draw porn.
>>739456506Literally why? The thread was so fast, too. But then a random auto-sage
>>739456147i'm also an unironic femkris believer, specifically of the second hero kind i also think noelle knight is a far stronger theory than people give it credit, even if it does seem schizo
>>739456848Honestly I would elaborate but the thread is saged so I don't have the time. But mainly you need to analyze a lot of what people say about Frisk and all of her acts. I also heard in nippon that the narrator usually speaks in first person as Frisk, too, so they have even more characterization for her.
When the thread is autosaged
>>739456770I doubt Noelle will be participating in ch5's dark world. She has no business snooping around Asgore's shop much less going upstairs where it will take place. Kris and Susie sure as shit aren't inviting her either plus you have Carol watching her ass because of what happened in ch4. This is post rape btw, she would have to do some serious shit in the darkworld continuing the weird route, but ch5's number is barely half the size of 2 and 3 so don't think it's happening.I hope Kris and Noelle get a solo scene at the festival, for the normal route's sake. The story has been teasing how close they were for like 4 chapters straight, they are in serious need for a one on one talk and what better place to do it than the ferris wheel where Kris used to scare her.
When the thread is autoaged And the posting starts to slowAnd the threads you used to know feel like fantasy
>>739456983The only thing that supports a rejection is a Noelle crashout, but even then I see them making up in the end.
>>739457067Deltarune just isn't a cultural phenomenonThat's why we need to forcibly suppress the multiple bump limit threads it gets almost a full year out from the last major release
>>739456775This is possible because it would parallel Chara.
>>739457371The chapter 5 darkworld is the festival. That why chapter 4 set up that the festival is going to be covered in Asgore's flowers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TrrPvz6nHIandrew cunningham's """theory""" sucks cocksummary>Deltarune's heaven/hell/angel iconography is meaningless>Light is associated with hope>Darkness is associated with water and glass, and the prophecyatleast jaru's schizo theories are interesting no matter how wrong it ends up being, andrew cunningham is a non-committal pussy who should stick to analyzing the music
>>739457447TRVKE.
>>739456983A crashout to align with the weird route shenanigans. The characters need to end up in similar place for the prophecy, I think Noelle is the key for that
>>739456775This picture is incredibly hot. I need more tsundere Kris.
Canon Kris boob size while the thread is dying.
>>739457228When the thread is autosagedAnd the Janny is enragedHis chastity cage starts to ache and chafe
>>739457371>I doubt Noelle will be participating in ch5's dark world. Then what's the point of the unused lines for equipping items on Noelle? We know Chapters 3, 4 and 5 were being developed simultaneously, even if the focus was mostly on 3 and later 4, it would make sense that some content related to 5 was present in the earlier chapters. Plus, Toby must have left it in on purpose, seems like obvious foreshadowing. Also, this isn't evidence, but it would feel extremely weird to not have Noelle as s party member again after all these years, it's been 6 years since Chapter 2.
>>739457442I think it's going to be localized in Asgore's shop upstairs where the boarded up door is. My theory is that he's been keeping his own (not literally his) little darkworld in there for a while now.
>autosaged when the thread is fast and with good discussion going on why are jannies like this
>>739457447ThisI like his analyst videos (which technically this is, actually) but he should never utter the word "theory"
AND THE SHADOWS START TO GROW
>>739457649>then what's the point of the unused lines for equipping items on Noelle?Ch6 and 7? I think Noelle returns as a party member then
When the thread is autosagedAnd the jannies start to quakeAnd the posts that you knowSeem like fantasyThere's a shitpost in your soulThat's still shining in page 10With the truththe post in our heartsDon't forgetI'm with you in 404
Final for Oberon Smog
>>739457772Seems very weird to have content from Chapter 6 and 7 left in the game considering they were never a development focus before 3 and 4 were released. The closest thing to it would be the Knight's cut attacks, which could mean a potential rematch later on in 6-7, with the Knight using new tricks. I feel like Chapter 5 is the perfect time for Noelle to come back as a party member.
>>739457567This but for the other 2 humans
Good work everyone. We manged to make a decent don't forget parody before getting archived.
>>739456983>Susie still adamantly tells Carol she's taking her daughter to the festival which has always been shown to be a romantic gesture just minutes earlier when Berdly asks out Noellewhich comes right after susie saying that taking kris to the festival is a given during chapter 2 and her whole thing with ralsei during chapter 3. girl just wants to have fun with her newly acquired friends
The Kris must suffer.
>>739457371Susie is going to take Noelle to Castle Town directly or Noelle's going to come along with whatever incident brings Kris and Susie to Flower King because she's hanging out with them anyway.Ralsei is likely to be unable to fully participate in Chapter 5 because of complications with Asgore being the ruler and Noelle is designed to replace him.Noelle is very relevant to the story of Chapter 5 because we're going to learn about what happened with Dess's disappearance and how that affected everyone.And the Weird Route ended on a very clear cliffhanger that the consequences of what you did are going to play out tomorrow.
>>739457985This but with the other human.
>>739457435Vidya is ILLEGAL.
>>739455613>Everything about it makes me think it's setting up Noelle for a rejection.funny because I see the opposite. I think it's setting up susie to get rejected by noelle, with noelle wanting to be with kris.
>>739457217I guess that's an L on me for not paying attention. I treated Frisk as a blank slate characters when I played UT so I never really delve deep into the characterization
>/v/>can't even talk about vidya Amazing.
>>739458149jannies fear us
if noelle is very explicitly a lesbian, what does that mean for kris' gender identity?
>>739457968Those lines were written in preparation for when Noelle eventually returns as a party member, whenever that may be. They did it beforehand so they wouldn't have to go back to old items and add them for future chapters
>>739458308Every Toby Fox character is bisexual
Don't forget...You can't unrape the doe
>>739458342I don't believe it, but alright. I personally would not be happy with waiting 8+ years just to have Noelle as a party member again so I hope she comes back in 5.
>>739458357alphys is a known pervert, she's not the norm.
>>739458143I was talking about the normal route. Noelle is the 400hp heal one, Susie is still at MAYBE for now. I think Noelle will start to realize that she actually really loves Kris but double down on Susie last second, which will end up biting her in the ass
>>739458529implications?
>>739458074Based.>>739458148Yeah, I like Frisk because you need effort to understand her.
>>739458505>I was talking about the normal route. nigga so was I. festival will be a susie rejection melt down no matter what.
>>739458432This game's development is a cluster fuck. They would probably have to make entirely new items if Noelle's descriptions were left out in ch3/4. Leaving them in means they can just drag and drop them into future chapters
>>739458635Why would Noelle choose Kris on the normal route when all she does is lust over Susie?
