Why are they even popular ? Where does one even begin?
you need to be autistic to truly enjoy them
>>739471261ARMA 3 is infested with normies
>>739471216games like arma are very ambitious and if you can get past the jank have campaigns that are like nothing else.
>>739471341Good, that'll force the modders like ACE to not make superautistic minute long menu-adventures just to put bandaid on your arm
>slop slop slop slop slopGod I wish you faggots would find a new buzzword already
>>739471216i played zeus on arma 3 once and it was fun but it depends on the person who is coming up with the scenario
>>739471618but that's the fun part, it makes people scared of getting hurt
How's GHPC now?
>>739472373breddy gud if you like tanks.
i play nuclear option with an xbox controller because i like airplanes
Why is /v/ of all places so filtered by Arma 3?
>>739471216I just like being one solider amongst many. I don't enjoy being the super solider of which everything relies upon - such as COD when every game was dependent on me alone.
>>739472872not on console
>>739473074What about Reforger?
>>739473039You should play foxhole.
>>739471216Squad and hell let loose are pretty fun since you can jump into a game and start coordinating with strangers immediately and having fun. Games like arma (reforger specifically) are kind of shitty to play since you need to spend at least an hour (very often more) building up to the action and unless you have a dedicates group of 3+ others you will be severely limited with what you can accomplish
Project Reality is still good to this day and getting updates.
>arma is distilled jank>squad is autism>insurgency is fun>hell let loose is perfectthinking of trying the gunner heat pc game but it looks like the game is aiming for you?
>>739473283Just join a unit in Arma 3. Join the ECD.
>>739471216I like mil sims because I can rp as a racist without getting banned.
>/v/: I don't want to play arma 3 because there's no anim-
>>739472325What would ACTUALLY make people scared is if people just fucking DIED when they got shot in the head and couldn't respawn. Most Arma players only LARP as milsimmers and don't actually want to play a milsim. It's why they always have revives turned on instead of just having people fucking die so you get to rejoin the battle once someone is finished with the stupid ACE medical menu game. It's why they always set the AI's skill level to like 50 or less so they're all braindead retards that can't hit anything and stand around in the open getting mowed down. They're basically re-creating Call of Duty as a large scale co-op game but pretending it's more hardcore because the guns have realistic ballistics even though they've toned down every element they can that would actually make it difficult.You want to make Arma players fucking cry and seethe? Be Zeus and spawn in a platoon of properly equipped (body armor + AT/AA missiles + MGs + DMRs) mechanized AI infantry with tank support, set their skill level to max and watch the players get fucking slaughtered.
>>739473395>thinking of trying the gunner heat pc game but it looks like the game is aiming for you?are you retarded?
>>739471216>Why are they even popular ?Because people want to join the army without actually dying. Same exact reason why people play racing sims.
>>739473683sounds like you are a shitty zeus that got rightfully called out
>>739473615you're not supposed to do that Daryl...
>>739473641Post fucking more
>games that are simpler than the games I like>casual slop>games that are more complex than the games I like>no fun allowed autistic trash
>>739473835You're literally just admitting you're not good enough. Not surprising though. I still remember this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x-CMrwEEB4The part where they test the max skill AI is exactly what I'm talking about. 8 average Arma players were incapable of defeating 4 max level AI infantry, and I guarantee you're one of them.
>>739471618but putting a bandaid on barely takes any skill or time especially with vanilla ace medical treating multiple gunshot wounds, a pneumothorax, and catastrophic haemorrhage while under fire? slapping tourniquets on, getting IV access, needle decompressions, maintaining airway, while dragging someone into cover one-handed while emptying your mag full-auto? fuck yeah it should be super-autistic and thats why BVSED super-autistic mods like KAT medical exist
>>739473985No
>>739474115bro, just learn tp make balanced fun scenarios and people will want to play with you, also you don't need to make the AI super accurate to make them smarter, the game separates the accuracy from tactics AI and you can use mods and also the point of zeus is to make more interesting scenarios
>>739474115I mean its easy to make AI bot that can snipe you from 2km. I got a few thousand hours on Arma 3 and yeah the AI can get pretty "cheaty" but vanilla AI tends to be a little cheaty, you need at least a grass mod that the AI would have trouble seeing you fairly but they tend to see though grass and vegitation too easily in vanilla. Also same applies to AI seeing though smoke.But if you give AI a GMG they are so OP. Vanilla or not, they are stupid accurate and it will fuck you up by landing 10x consecutive gerandes on your position. >>739476417Better balancing is a well made mission but I played on a dynamic server where if we went out in a tank to retake an area, the enemy would return the favor in kind. But there would be places to invade like a ammo depot or a barraks base, intel base, fuel depot, etc We and they would have different objects to blow up. I remember hearing when a tank engine roar getting louder and louder as it apporaches us, on Altis it would be a relativily easy kill but we were on a ukraine type area where there would be big fields but we were in such a position where we only had visibility of 50-75m before our view was blocked off and we couldnt tell the tank was coming from and it was charging straight towards us. Pretty scary since if you get downed in this server, you could get a 10-30min respawn time. Our missions typically lasted 4-5 hours including arsenal, on rare bigger missions like capturing a airport base, 5-7hours even up to 10. Anyways, what you can do the AI and their behavior and how the area reacts dynamicly with QRF's dropping in on you with Tanks, APCs, IFVs, Airborne even. We just never knew unless some other guys did some recon mission for you during the week and scouted the area, typically we had them search for landmines and clear the roads. Hell sometimes there would be other recon groups or convoys we would run into. It only started looking like picrel after recent updates to make performance better.
>>739473303Is it free?
>>739473303Best game, but sadly its dead
>rs2 vietnam is dead>next hell let loose game will be vietnam>exactly the same as rs2 but worse
>>739471216Turok, Ghost Recon.Good idea for there to be good guys you can join but the reality is if you want to do anything right you're on your own. And will likely face the best organised and equipped forces.Getting used to sneaking and high tension, your death mattering, death coming from where you didn't check and clear. All that might help.Some system in the unlikely event of being able to work with others could be helpful.Not all mind games. About having balls. Most don't. And that makes them the bad guys.
>>739471216gun(weapon) pornos scratch my technology-autism itchand big boom equals cool yadda yadda
>>739472373besides bunch of missions, it's still very barebones
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4413130/Battlespace_Command/well /v/?
>>739478397did bikecuck troon out
>do boring military shit 99% of the time >so the 1% of action feels more impactfulno thanks. if you spend so much time LARPing as a zogbot you might as well enlist and at least get fucking paid to do it. It's a terrible idea but at least you make money for israel this way
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2750400/Spearhead_2/
>>739479746warno with a normal map?
>>739479834It's about discipline and focus. Dopamine addicted zoomers like you will never get it.
>>739479834What if I want to larp as opfor because it's fun to be the underdog?
>>739480315almost got me, nice visuals
>>739480161>It's about discipline and focus>playing vidyafuckin kekvidya is the least important thing to require discipline and focus. there are waaaay more important things in life that need it significantly more, be it education, job/career, social affairs. that energy is wasted on vidya>>739480273>larp as opfor because it's fun to be the underdog?far enough. RS2 as NVA/VC can be incredibly fun
>>739473161>install foxshit>driving around>some jackass starts cruise control>I AM LEFTENNANT BUTTERFUCKER AND I AM COMANDEERING THIS TRUCK RIGHT NOW HOP OUT SOLDIER>lmao no>run him over>his clan spends the next six hours chasing me around>that was fun, log off>time passes>hop back on>same chucklefuck clan starts chasing me around again>wtf get over it>TREASON IS NOT TOLERATED SHOOT THAT MAN NOW>they chase me around for another few hoursfoxhole is just roleplayers ERPing
>>739479834>>739480383I fund it weird that you never see a post like this on any other sim thread, like you don't see people on euro truck threads or flight simulator asking "why don't people just do these things in real life?", somehow milsim really causes insecurity on some people in this particular way.War is fun, larping War is even more fun because you can do it more often without the risk.
>>739480479Sounds pretty fun, though
>>739480526it literally isn't when it's nothing but roleplayers doing fucking nothing except roleplaying bossing around newbies instead of actually fighting. they had to get rid of all the servers and merge them all into one server because the playerbase all quit over it
>>739480492>like you don't see people on euro truck threads or flight simulator asking "why don't people just do these things in real life?"I don't think you have seen many Euro Truck threads.
>>739480383>that energy is wasted on vidyaSounds like a "you" problem when you have limited energy to focus on things other than those you mentioned.
>>739480492>War is fun, larping War is even more fun because you can do it more often without the risk.My question wasn't about why LARPing isn't inherently fun, that much I agree with. What I want to understand is the appeal of going through 99% of boring shit that military LARPIng entails. You lose so much time and energy and might as well do it IRL at that point, or at least get another non-vidya hobby that requires the same amount of dedication yet has way more payoff.
>We're now as close to Arma 3's future setting as its original release
>>739480790Those asshole devs hate actually working.
>>739480564Tbh that's pretty much the authentic army experience for you. Too bad it fucking sucks, my country has conscription and the only thing the service left me with was a burning hatred for the military and every single person employed there.
>>739480641>What I want to understand is the appeal of going through 99% of boring shit that military LARPIng entails. You lose so much time and energy and might as well do it IRL at that pointBecause it's nothing like that, not even close, you sound insane for even suggesting it.
>>739473161i don't know looks like this guy got bored of it after about the 5300 hour mark, doesn't seem like you get your money's worth really
>>739480853>Casually kills +25 on a blue on blue>Oopsies! Hehehe honest mistake! >Gets off Scott freeWtf lol.
>>739480636>Sounds like a "you" problemfair enough, but if you have the discipline and patience of going through hours and hours of an autistically strict routine or in a VIDEOGAME, you might as well use that energy IRL and do your taxes, work out, learn something new etc. that effort is, in my opinion, wasted on a couple pixels with zero tangible benefit aside from the small dopamine kickto put it into perspective, if you play a couple hours of vidya to unwind after a long work/school day that's fine and dandy, all power to you since you're using that time to relax. but if you spend a whole weekend grinding hours on end for an ARMA RP match, that time might as well be spent doing something tangible. the dopamine reward is not the same in my opinion>>739480873>Because it's nothing like that, not even close, you sound insane for even suggesting it.alright then enlighten me, please. military has a lot of useless drills doing nothing of value just to keep you busy, milsims seem to follow the same design philosophy>spend two hours staging and coordinating an attack>5 minutes of actual combined arms combat>1 hour wrapping everything upas opposed to:>2 minutes to join match in battlefield>30 seconds to get in a tank/helicopter/objective if playing infantry>15 minutes of raining death on enemies>match end, dopamine securedfor me the short term "fun" per-match design trumps milsim's slow hours-on-end grinding. it may just be a difference of opininion at the end of the day
>>739481040>over 5K hours "building and being a facility worker">in a fucking war gameyeah nah staying away from this shitheap because you just KNOW >>739480479 is right and if you don't get your ass to the fucking popcorn mines you're getting TK'd to hell and back
>>739473395Squad used to be peak. But then something went horribly wrong with the proximity placement update of FOBs along with the engine update. Smooth controlled guns became an abysmal jumping mess on burst fire and full auto.
>>739481129I don't agree to the point that if you're going to play something it should give you a massive dopamine rush or else it is "wasted" time. Neither does it make sense to say that if you want to focus on something then you should focus only on productive ventures. Playing any simulator game is sort of a form of meditation, getting into that flow state is rewarding.
>>739479746>forced to play as ZOGpass
>>739480161nta but the Military makes you do stupid shit to keep you busy>>739480383definitely a you problem though and probably very bad and argues out instead of in
>>739481040>>739481613>MILITARY simulation game>5000 hours wasted on being a vidya janitorLMAO, what kind of autism is this?
>>739481789It really isn't. It's Running With Rifles but with a big server.
>>739481735>Playing any simulator game is sort of a form of meditation, getting into that flow state is rewarding.fair enough, to each his own I guess. some people in flow state pop heads, others drive an ammo truck for 30 minutes>>739481769>definitely a you problem though and probably very bad andit's a difference of opinion>argues out instead of inelaborate on this. vidya affects things outside of itself, it's not an isolated hobby>social vidya makes you better at communicating>management vidya makes you better at planning and organizing>simulator vidya makes you understand what is being simulated
>>739481613>the chad lmao no imma shoot shit vs the virgin we need to buildIt's green vs blue all over again...
>>739479746>Published by Microprose>Devs only other work is some random mobile game>This game itself was going to be mobile only a few months ago80% chance it turns out shit, hope its good though.
>>739482123Nigga you don't know shit about Microprose. They published OG XCOM.
>>739481939Dont know if this is a good thing or bad thing.
>>739482208Yeah they also publish a shitton of random dogshit thats only just above the line of shovelware.
>>739479962I remember playing the first game back in the 90s. Damn...
>>739480564>instead of actually fightingyep. the commend = rank shit never sat well with me. goodboy points were fucking worthless. wow! you can run logi or get sycophants to commend you!the introduction of factories was actually killed the game though.solo players and small squads could directly influence the outcome of the war, but with the introduction of factories and its implementation it became next to impossible to contribute without being in a larger group. everything is locked behind immense caches of private storage that takes up physical space on map and any attempts to access resources of any kind is met with extreme hostility instead of openness in the spirit of cooperation. clanman always had a huge ego but it was kept in check by the threat of having their shit stolen from under them. now? they have free reign to be shitheads and you're actively punished by them abusing the report system.sad, but the devs are canadian - toronto at that - so it's understandable they'd turn something good into something shit. their new medieval game will inevitably get ruined the same way.
>>739471216>Why are they even popular ?people have to talk to me to play
>>739482407>new medieval game will inevitably get ruined the same way.Is it going to be similar to this game?
>>739479962for me it's https://store.steampowered.com/app/4055780/Gunship_Origins/
>>739480036i was banned from warno for 3weeks for calling people retarded
>>739482581What is this lol? DCS for poorfags?
>>739482510it's going to have similar issues plaguing it yes. possibly worse if you consider the technological levels of that time periodhad a friend stream to me the gameplay. it was tedium to the max.have access to the playtest myself and haven't bothered since watching
>>739471571>>739471618Arma is not autistic. It's RP for military gay boys. It's barely above something like SL or the Sims.You can tell this by the metric boatload of dress up mods/DLC and yet there is not a single mod that fixes the AI, improves the retarded foliage/grass implementation or the shooting and moving mechanics. Oh and any official SP content is so full of propaganda cliches it makes Tom Clancy novels look moderate in comparison.Anyway, Antistasi is fun with friends but all the systems in Arma are broken and don't really work. Reforger is slightly better but it's somehow even more unstable than A2/A3.
>>739482680>Reforgerare you able to finally shoot firearms out of a moving vehicle yet?
>>739482208Yeah, totally the same companytrust me bro
>>739482713I wouldn't know, the stability of the game has limited my interest in it. I bought it a week before the update that allowed mods on consoles and the game stability went to shit after that, even on vanilla servers, which I only play on. I've only played about 50 hours of Reforger.
>>739482680>Antistasi is fun with friendsThis is the sole reason ARMA 3 is installed on my PC. It's jank as shit at times, but taking over Altis with a small group of retards just has something endlessly fun about it.
>>739480479>run him overAbsolutely based
>>739482713No.
>>739482680>yet there is not a single mod that fixes the AI, improves the retarded foliage/grass implementation or the shooting and moving mechanicsWhy are you lying so blatantly?
>>739479746>no release date>when it does release, it will be early accessI may check it out in 10 years
>>739482407Man this sure reminds me of EVE, eventually the game turned into the devs sucking off the big player alliances and would patch any decent solo or small group activity to fucking oblivion.
>>739480479Which part was erotic to you...?
>>739485115For anyone wondering, this anon is a baiting retard and that's why he wont post examples I can directly refute. But if you're curious as to why nothing actually fixes issues I listed, its because they rely heavily on scripting as bandaid fixes and they don't fix the underlying issues with the implementation of certain things Arma does.Any seasoned Arma player will happily tell you this.
Only milsim game i had fun was Arma 3 while for others it was just pain. (Squad,HLL,PR and some other games milsim and tacticall generals recced)Main thing is just shit visiblity i guess my eyesight is just bad but a3 zoom is really usefull and disting factions where you can just instantly know who is enemy while for other games its just pain (Squad where your buddies show on fucking map but you dont have markers above them so you just get raped by guy who memorised uniform patters while you fear getting kicked for teamkill) and for HLL you just get raped by arty and PR kinda same as squad but its just jankier. Also any a3 mission makers here i want to make a mission but some vid i watched about it said you need scripting and im too retarded for that ?
I hate how every RTS is just pixels fighting each other and have good models when you zoom all the way in but you are pretty much handicapping yourself when you play like that.Give me something like Generals, and CoH in a coldwar/ modern setting.
>>739485767>plenty of enhanced movement mods>plenty of ai mods>mods to cripple ai ability to see through foliagenot even that anon but you're the liar here>b-but the mods that fix it doesnt count because its scriptingno shit arma has some fundamental issues but mods address everything you've listed, >>>muh scripting, is not an excuse
>>739486984I didn't mention anything about AI seeing through grass or EM mods. I was talking about the increased visibility of infantry past grass draw distance. I also mentioned the clunky movement and shooting, nothing I mentioned included vaulting/climbing mods like EM or its derivatives.>plenty of AI modshahahahaha have a day off
>>739471216I would rather play something like CoD or Battlefield and get in a half dozen quick matches in an evening, but the halloween costume cosmetics and people jumping and sliding around make them unplayable for me.I wanna pretend I'm a war hero and not a kid in a nerf war video, even if the slog of a match gives me more cortisol per minute than dopamine.
incoming kino or slop drop?
>>739487685Definitely DOA
What are the best games with helicopters?
>>739487426does reforger have this distant grass concealment-layer? Its not perfect but it mitigates the effect of people sticking out like a sore thumb at distance
>>739487961Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.
>>739485998>pigraine flag in the cockpitDidn't know Bohemia was onboard with globohomo
man yearns for the battlefield
>>739480479that sounds incredible actually
>>739487426i cant deny arma 3 IS a clunk-filled clusterfuck, but you have to accept that for a 13 year old game, it does combined arms warfare roleplay pretty well>ai modsai mods exist for better driving, support, combat, movement, command etc, you might have personal gripes with them but they exist
>>739487685rs2 devs could've just reskinned rs2 and called it a day, quarter of the assets were already thereprobably won't be complete kino but rs2 catered to this immense sweet spot between arcadey adhd shooters like bf/cod and walk-for-five-minutes-after-dying autism games like squad/hll, while still providing surprisingly in depth team tactical gameplay paired with underappreciated map design that did miraculous things like inherently balancing snipers, for exampletheres literally nothing on the market like rs2 so there will be a flood of former rs2 players wanting a nostalgia fix. all 83 has to do is not be completely shit and have regular patches/new content/improvement, and it'll be great
>>739488145>does reforger have this distant grass concealment-layer?No. Even in Arma 3 it doesn't really help much, and it also creates a problem with the hitbox being misaligned, because only the the visible model is in the ground, that's probably why they got rid of it.For all its problems, this is one thing Unreal Engine 5 is actually good at, because it can render shadows and vegetation out to far distances.
>>739480479Faggot. You should have joined their opponent and rp'ed as an actual traitor.
>>739480479>run him over>his clan spends the next six hours chasing me aroundSounds dangerously based.
>>739488254tbfh I wish my country was at war. Don't want to die for pissrael or globohomo.
>>739488145Like I previously mentioned I am not as familiar with reforger but afaik they walked back the sunken concealment layer (because it didn't do anything to help anyway) and just went back to ignoring the issue.Since Arma 2 people have brainstormed solutions such as alpha grass textures and translucent infantry but Bohemia are lazy and aren't interested.>>739488323>roleplaycorrect, not gameplay.I don't have gripes with any mods. They are admirable, but they do not fix the issues inherent with the game. Nothing will ever stop AI from walking through walls or becoming unresponsive. I'm curious about Reforger's AI implementation but not hopeful for A4.
>>739471618Reforger honestly works far better with ACE stuff. That being said it's difficult to have fun in Reforger because you either have to deal with a DDoS, empty maps (compared to playercount) or aircraft spam.Can't exaggerate, 128 people spread across everon works out to about 5-10 people in a cap point.
>>739471216Ghost recon 1 and expansions, and Rainbow six 1-3 and expansions. Delta Force Black Cock Down, Swat 3-4.These are my picks for entry tier tactical shooters, then you can continue going into more realism autism like flashpoint or arma.
>>739477931Yes
>>739490090I’d rate og Ghost Recon and Rainbow 6s more hardcore than Arma.
>>739482680>yet there is not a single mod that fixes the AI,LAMBS?
>>739480641>What I want to understand is the appeal of going through 99% of boring shit that military LARPIng entails.ooooh THESE groups... yeah it's just pure autism.they are filled to the brim with either boot failures, POGs that need a powertrip and kids that want to do army stuff when they will grow up.there's nothing fun in them, it's all ass.
>>739487685Its already out, and its dogshit
>>739488145No, but Reforger runs better so some servers can get away with forcing grass settings at 150+ meters
Why the fuck is /v/ always so fucking disingenuous when it comes to this fucking genre? Always fucking lying and saying blatantly false shit. What the fuck is fucking wrong with this fucking board?
>>739491579What is wrong?
>>739491579because they know a majority of people here don't play or know anything about the games so they can get away with posting fake shit about it and the people who know nothing will think it's real without ever having played itit actually is really funny how this board treats arma 3 and milsimming and is hard to explain why that is
>tfw no one to play reforger withThe game is already so much better than arma 3 but you definitely need friends to play with
No other game can let you switch you weapon hand on the fly for a tactical advantage. Checkmate.
>>739491840Not without Zeus it's not better.
>>739491840Just hook up with randoms
>>739491970How to find a good Reforger group?
>>739491970Believe me I tried but randoms are so beyond retarded at least here in europoor
>>739488254This.
>>739492106I just drive people around, and then when we get somewhere I stick with the group. Then I die, respawn at base, grab another car, and tell another group of people to get in and repeat.>>739492134How bad is your ping to NA servers? Arma is slow paced enough to where I can play with ~200ms ping and barely noticed except for room clearing which is fucked and I have to use a dozen grenades instead.
>>739492459Based driver. They really did nail the driving in Reforger though
>>739492459oh hey i remember you from some other thread maybe the &tactical or arma thread on /vm/?
>>739492459this is basically like being trans in the PR/Squad days but you don't stick with the group you go back and get another groupbest part about flying trans is that it's your helo so you get final say about where you drop them no matter how much the SL cries at youMaybe when Reforger gets good working helo's there'll also be flying trans as well
Here is some 190ms gameplay.>>739492547yes, rip /&tg/and also the arma thread I posted in both
>>739492932>>739492547What went wrong with those threads? Why did schizos insist on ruining every nice thing?
>>739473395Insurgency is NOT a milsim. I still liked it tho, actual milsim gunplay sucked ass and the big two military FPS isn't about military anymore. Insurgency is the only one with fun gunplay.
>>739490996but it doesn't
>>739493072tacfps = milsim
>>739492134oh yeah EU servers are cancer on PR/ARMA. Too many non-english speakers and micless retards.
>>739493185But the problem is Americans don't pay these games. They play cod and bf
>>739492782>being trans
>>739490090Those games are more in-depth and difficult than arma/flashpoint like >>739490609 said
>>739493185euroland is so awful>watch american cs2 streamer>his most "toxic" game is when people do some light banter>everyone speaks english>meanwhile playing cs2 on eu servers>various slavfags>turks>spics>no one speaks english>no one cooperates>just a total shitshow
>>739493331Nice bait casualthat's what it's called and always has been called
>>739493439On other games I don't mind it, the banter is great. But on PR-likes it's suffering because everyone is doing the lone wolf thing or in cliques.
>>739493269There used to be a different time
>>739493439It depends. Sometimes you get to play with russians, sometimes you get to play with Arabs and Africans who can barely speak proper english. It is mostly fun.
>>739480492It is funny, because of all things you could simulate, on milsims this question is most easy to answer: Because if you do military shit in real life, you can fucking die in real life.
>>739493782>you can fucking die in real life.I fail to see the problem here.
>>739471341Arma 3 isnt a fun milsim ishygddt
Thoughts on Graviteam games?
I always see the so called americans dismissing European servers and trying to play milsim games but in reality there's never any americans playing. When you check the country data and demographics, Americans are always mostly playing shit like Call of Duty or Battlefield or Valorant, Overwatch, Counterstrike etc according to Steam and other sources. And yet you always somehow see americans bitching here that they only have Europeans to play with. What explains this phenemenon? I'm a yuro but I also know the pitfalls and grow tired of playing bad euro only servers where >>739493595 and >>739493439 happen so I too wonder about playing on english only american servers. But the problem is there are none despite all the americans always begging for them. So where are you americans?
>>739494126All my euro PR friends exclusively played US servers because EU servers are so bad
>>739494213I'm sure the irony is that there aren't even americans on the US server. Just the more civilized euros branching off from the slavic hordes
>>739494213Really? I haven't played milsim games in a while but 10yrs ago or so I've always had a great time on finnish servers. It was the perfect balance between seriousness, competence and having a laugh.
>>739494126murrcans for one reason or another just don't play milsim games. They want bang bang rah rah point shooty action badass hero not slow paced long range methodical encounters. I doubt there's even a single american in this thread because look how alive it was during EU time.
Most milsims are absolute dogshit because they require too much time and dedication just to get to play or have fun. I just want to start a game and have a good time with some larp.I was hoping there would be games that could bridge the gap between larp and casual play like War Thunder, but ever since they have been turning away from that, there's nothing.Nuclear thunder was fun thoughbeit. They better make that a permanent mode.
>>739471216>>739472872>>739473395>milsim>shooterYou are trying to combine a high IQ genre with a low IQ one, that's why armatrannies are all LARPer faggots playing dress up with infinite revive. Real milsims are almost entirely strategy or vehicle-based. Combat Mission, Sea Power, Command, DCS, Cold Waters, etc. Note how armatrannies rarely play anything that doesn't have soldier dress up, usually the Arma community overlaps games like Squad and Tarkov, very rarely does an Arma player play Gary Grigsby games.
>>739494594>>739494126Because they're retarded. Why do you want play with murrifats? They either be literal kids or has be armyrats who just OORAH YES SIR everything?
>>739473641Ergh. Either everyone should look anime, or no one should.
>>739493886There's my nigga
>>739495094>how much anime in your milsim do you want?>yes
>>739471216got over 1k hours in arma 3, havent played it in a while. Did a couple of hours in reforger but it just doesnt feel the same. Would recommend arma 3 but idk which servers are still up and running
>>739481613Least whiny Collie player.
>>739479746CMO but worse
>>739495205We were so busy asking if we could we forgot to stop and ask ourselves if we should.
>>739493886>>739494647Its shame how controls seem bit too much for these games like just take controlling stuff from Men of war (it has been a while since i played (Tunisia)>>739495205If only there was a rts weeb game like that or something (im tired of gachas and they are bare bones usually) like models look hideous.>>739495313>Would recommend arma 3 but idk which servers are still up and runningThe usuall KOTH,rp and ukraine larp and some other shit.
>>739496135>CMO80 bucks
>>739496272Where are the american servers?
>>739496272You dont even need a keyboard to play graviteam tactics, just a mouse. What do you mean?
>only like milsim games where I can blow up people with dronesbros...
>>739496867im eu>>739497251last time i played controls seemed needlessly complicated i guess i could revisit it
>enter murrfat time>thread diesCan't make this shit up. Why are Americans so allergic to milsim?
>>739494558I've never seen a Finn server but then I wouldn't join one because they are like Germans but somehow even more humourless and autistic
>>739494364There are Americans, I don't understand where this ">Americans don't play milsim they only play cod" shitposting is coming from. There was plenty of US project reality players too.
>>739498448Where are they then?
>>739498975In the 50 person queues for all the full North America servers on reforger
>>739498448>There was plenty of US project reality players too.Really? How do I play with them?
>>739499135Ignore him, he's trying to shit up the thread
>>739473641>You're all stupid. They're going to be looking for army guys!
>>739498448>>739499706Wow so many americans
>>739500415all of the world belongs to america
>>739500548ThisLitterally every country will be a state eventually
>>739472325>it makes people scared of getting hurtTell that to the AI that can sense you from 2 hills away without even seeing a pixel of your body.
>>739482581IM SO FUCKING HYPED FOR THIS SHIT
I want to enjoy vehicle combat in Arma 3 but ground vehicles are too arcady and air gameplay fucking sucks. I want it to have something like WT's damage modules but Arma 3's engine might shit itself from that.
>>739473395squad used to be great around 2018-2020squad fucking sucks now, they flattened all the maps and made all weapons less accurate
>>739496272>rpWhat kind of fucking RP do you even do in this game? Don't tell me it's the same dogshit at those GTA 5 rp servers where you have a job, business, gangs, police. That sucks even in a game made to replicate city life, in Arma 3 it would be atrocious.
>>739494126Here I am, what's up?
not that anon, but can someone answer this: >>739479806
>>739479834my brother used to play Gmod star wars RP 8 hours a day, pretending to be a clone trooper doing menial shit like manning a desk for most of the time and maybe once or twice a month do the most janky ass fight against the AIsome people are just autistic as fuck. At least in arma you're holding a gun most of the time
>>739487685It feels too different from the red orchestra series
>>739501813It dosent seem like he didhttps://nitter.net/shenanigansen
>>739487685>incoming kino or slop drop?it already released and was DOA.
Not sure if it counts but I've been playing Hidden & Dangerous 2 recently and its pure kinojank. I'm up to the Sabre Squadron stuff and my main complaint so far is that they made all the Japanese/Burma assets and only had 2 missions there.
I miss /a3g/
I wish arma regorger would have 10x the max player count per server and buddy rallies from squ*d, then it would be perfectIt's hard to regroup with your SL when you die and the maps feel pretty barren even if on paper there's over 100 players per map. Other than that it's better than squ*d in every way.
>>739494639GHPC might be up your alley, easy to get into, plays like war thunder without the pvp.
>>739502357>tfw
>>739502457You can spawn on a radio backpack. Also if the radio is put on the ground, and deployed place, you can fast travel to it from main base.
>>739492459LMAO is this supposed to be the ukraine conflict?
How's WARNO? I've been told it's like World in Conflict but without the plot and cutscenes.
milsims are too hard
>>739504808>you had to chase them down and arrest themHighly unrealistic. The IOF doesn't do that irl.
Wake up Americans
>>739504779wargame red dragon is better
>>739492782>>739493331being trains is hard job some times beaten but never rape. stay strong
>>739471216I was really into them until i went to foreign legion
>>739494647>>739496272is this combat mission? been thinking of getting into itgonna start with Barbarossa to Berlin, people say it's the best one, which one would you recommend if I don't intend to get deep into those sims and just try the best one? (preferably available on gog or dev website)
>>739493782Exactly.>>739481129You are complicating something that is really simple, you don't play milsim like that every single day, at most it's a weekly thing, you don't fuck up your knees and back for it, you don't risk dying, and 2 hours prep time then into a 30 min mission is incomparable to real life, where it's 3 months of basic and then straight into a trench and you die on day 1 without seeing the enemy, the end.That's why I'm saying you are insane for even making the comparison.
>>739507906CM1 (yeah they're called 1 2 3 etc but they're CM1) games are good but singleplayer only. If you're fine with that Barbarossa to Berlin is good. CM2 (Cold War, Black Sea, Shock Force 2, and the WW2 ones) have PvP multiplayer which is great because a player is a lot smarter than the AI. They're also your only option if you want settings other than WW2 if I remember correctly.
>>739508527is multiplayer infested with metafaggots exploiting the mechanics and wrecking any newbie like it's often the case with strategy games? or does the game not allow cheesing and if you're smart you can make it against an experienced player? thanks
>>739508527Is CM hard to get into? I remember seeing the top-down ones as a kid, and saw they're on gog, but they look intimidating. I love men of war, but it's a lot easier to corral.
>>739471216Are you retarded or something?
>>739507906I will rec you to wait for Fanatical Combat mission bundle games become VERY cheap then or now from 3rd party sites https://gg.deals/game/combat-mission-shock-force-2/ (make sure to select correct region)
>>739488494>rs2 devs could've just reskinned rs2 and called it a day, quarter of the assets were already theredidn't they have to make new IP entirely due to some tripwire conflict? which also meant no marketing and not even RS2 fixed clunky shit that was there all the way since ro2 >all 83 has to do is not be completely shit and have regular patches/new content/improvement, and it'll be greatproblem is they arleady launched and it's shit and dead so there will never be a playerbase to save it no matter the updates.
>>739508769I haven't played with randoms, only with friends, but it's hard to cheese. The closest is calling mass arty on spawn and such, but usually that's banned as a house rule. There's no matchmaking, nothing stops people from simply not playing with people known to exploit and cheese.You can, of course, learn what's better and what's worse and someone that's experienced will likely pick the things more suited for the scenario. >>739508915Not really. Though if you're asking compared to Men of War then yes very, CM is much more complex than MoW, it's a sim first and a game second, you don't get any freebies to make it more player friendly. You will have to manage command and intel chains, you don't have borg spotting (meaning: one squad can see a tank, the one next to them might not, so they can't fire until either they spot it too or the other squad has relayed information to them about it which helped them spot it, how quickly that happens depends on a tonne of factors), etc.I got a pretty good example of that in one of my first PvP games when my opponent's MG42 wrecked my Greyhound because gravity allowed it to bounce bullets into the hull via the top opening since it was far away enough that the bullet arc made it possible, leading to my crew panicking and abandoning the vehicle.
>>739509554have you tried warno? is it any good? compared to cm
>>739504808Based
>>739509805I have not but I used to play Wargame a lot. Wargame is operational scale while CM is tactical scale. The depth of simulation isn't comparable at all, CM is much much deeper and more authentic, something that would be hard to appreciate at Wargame's scale anyway. They're not really comparable, one is a turn based tactical-scale military simulation while the other is an operational scale real-time somewhat arcadey game.
>>739471216>>739471216I just want one game rts or fps that actually simulates what it's like to do a Combined Arms Breach in a packed battlespace
>>739510165cm it is then, thanksyou also mentioned Gary Grisby games, they sound pretty complex and time-consuming, do they have some smaller scenarios that would allow me to gradually get into the game? like a one-off battle to introduce a mechanic or two, or does it throw you into a spreadsheet with a thousand variables that you have to study for days to understand?
>>739510605I haven't played GG games much at all aside from a little bit almost 15 years ago, a bit too much on the "hunched over a paper map at HQ" side for me, so I can't really say anything about them. I would assume that by now they'll have tutorials and smaller scenarios, if rudimentary.
What's the best single player mil sims or ways to experience it single player?
>>739511194Hideous destructor
Is GHPC like the Nuclear Option of ground combat? In terms of like balancing realism vs I just wanna game for an hour with no headaches
GHPC has a cool soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1pq_OxEXYU
Back in Arma 2 days there were full autism servers that ran something like 50v50 PvP events on the weekends. No respawns, the side commanders had to make a strategy and order around squads depending on the objective. The missions took like 1-3 hours to end so people actually tried not to die. You could spend 2 hours camping in your takistani shitshack and then get blasted by a tank from a hill 2 miles away. Now every full autism server is PvE slop designed to make you feel like a supersoldier by letting you mow down bots by the thousands.
>>739512248This guy's a knower.
>>739514729I think fight nights still exist in arma3, there was some liru anime fag that was putting up videos of those events.
>>739514729That still exists. It's called FNF. Still one life still 100+ people
>>739479834>if you spend so much time LARPing as a zogbot you might as well enlist and at least get fucking paid to do it. It's a terrible idea but at least you make money for isreal this wayI simply enjoy the the cool part of being a soldier you fucking retard. I don't want to sleep in the barrack filled with beaners and niggers, cleaning restroom with toothbrush after it being used by niggers, getting screamed at by 5'6" goblina without being allowed to cave their face in, being forced to attend to anti radicalization seminar and doing it all without even a guarantee of killing someone on top of being a jewish slave.>B-but you will get paidFuck off, my current job pays better than what ZOG can pays me for being a glorified janitor and I don't have a 50% mullato and nigger coworker who I have to share a sleeping room and toilet with. At least it is guaranteed that I will experience combat in milsim no matter how tedious the tasks I have to do before I get to kill some pixels.
>>739512995>I just wanna game for an hour with no headachesI pirated it and played it years ago but from combat it was easy like your standard "arcade" controls (wasd mouse shoot) but with realism elements like damage and shit idk if they added infrantry.>>739515765>liru anime fagThose events by youtubers sometime seem fun but then you remember theya re youtubers and you have to be in their gay discord which is gay>>739515825Are they ok or gay ?(despite never saying slurs i just like to have ability to)
>>739515825Where do they get so many people?
>>739493886i tried them and they seem far too jank and tank/vehicle oriented for me (at least when i tried out tunisia cus i only care about the US).
>>739504779WARNO is a lot of fun, but it's a different type of game than WiC. a slightly better comparison would be with broken arrow, but it has some major balance issues and doesn't really release anything new on any regular schedule.wargame: red dragon is worse, but still has some people who won't let go for various reasons.
>>739471216op is a jew trying to stop us from obtaining any military knowledgekill yourself faggot
>>739514729>>739517925you just want to complain, nothing is good enough even though it's a weeky one life event using ACE, ACRE, chain of command etc
>>739473641ALL YOU NEED
>>739519028Im asking a genuine questions retard stop pretending to be above it and im allowed to have standards.
I really, really, REALLY like this one. :^)
>>739471216Just join Broma already ffs
>>739520380Does sonix still play
>>739520576No he just yaps in chat and gets angry when he gets called out for not joining ops.
>>739517925Infantry were added late last year, RPG-7 little bastards.M2 turns them into paint
>>739519454The trailers were really cool
>>739509554Sounds neat. What would you recommend to get into it? I always loved the physics bullshit of MOW.
>>739502357>Had his IR laser onDeserved.
>>739491840Showing off your pilot skills when there is there is no wire collusion on telephone lines or the tops of the tree's and a very simplified console kiddie style helicopter controls especially compared to the realistic flight model Arma 3 had is not really impressive...
>>739520380This.
>>739521309Purely depends on what time period you prefer. They're all on the same engine and more or less in par in terms of features (or lack thereof).>I always loved the physics bullshit of MOW.Don't expect much physics outside of ballistics, it's very much focused on the sim aspect and a building wall being destroys is just a mesh replacement, not bricks falling apart etc. It only cares for what's gameplay relevant.
>>739521309My personal recommendation is Normandy if you're interested in WWII, not only because it's the most popular but it also has a fairly wide spread of available units. Avoid Fortress Italy unless you're an absolute slut for pasta, because in addition to the Italian formations being complete and utterly irredeemable dogshit the game covers a fairly narrow part of the war so there's not a ton of variety.Otherwise Cold War is obviously the choice if you want T72s and M60s facing off, with Black Sea being the hyper-modern choice where a match can last a total of 15 minutes of a bloodbath as guided munitions murder everyone. Shock Force 2 if you like asymmetrical sandbox warfare.
>>739473283Sounds like you need to Join Broma
>>739522372>>739521829Appreciated, thanks. I'm flexible to my interests in war. I'll see what I can grab.
>>739522687>>739520380How?
>>739523910https://broma.onozuka.info/?page_id=5542
ARMA 3 is a beautiful game
>>739476417To this day I have not gotten a straight answer from anyone on whether the two AI skill bars in the game menu have any impact outside of singleplayer scenarios. People will say this all the time, that the AI can be made smarter without being made more accurate, but if you're playing as Zeus or using the editor, the interface for those was never updated to separate them out and the AI skill is just a single bar. As far as I can tell they aren't - if you're Zeusing, there's just one skill bar, and as you make them smarter they will also get more accurate. The thing is, that honestly makes more sense - one would expect better trained/experienced troops would be better both in tactics AND marksmanship, so I honestly don't mind them increasing in tandem.
>>739488506>this is one thing Unreal Engine 5 is actually good at, because it can render shadows and vegetation out to far distances"Far" distances in normal games do not compare to the scale of ARMA 3 maps.
>>739508769>metafaggots exploiting the mechanics and wrecking any newbie like it's often the case with strategy games?Because of the way CM works, the biggest learning hurdle is probably getting your intentions translated to the orders you issue to your units and to understand how they react to the battlefield.>or does the game not allow cheesingDue to the way games work, you're almost always going to have a conversation with your opponent about what is and isn't allowed. Like the other guy said, I've never played against someone who thought it was okay to drop artillery on the spawn location, and plenty of other house rules are common. My usual opponent and I have a few we take by default, and then mix it up for other games.>and if you're smart you can make it against an experienced player?Much like an actual military commander, it's going to be a mixture of experience and natural tactical intuition. In a recent game I was able to coordinate an artillery barrage, a smoke screen and an infantry charge to all happen in sync - nothing about that is metafaggotry and all of it is what you'd set out to do, but unless you have a good amount of experience you're almost certainly going to struggle to get things to line up.
>>739480273Who said the Opfor have to be the underdog?
>>739524248Tanoa is the best Arma map and I refuse to entertain objections.
>>739524286The server difficulty settings should apply, but you can use Zeus enhanced mod to change the individual skills or make a simple script for that.
>>739524386The size of the map doesn't matter when the view distance is just a few kilometers. Arma can't even render shadows past a few hundred meters.
>>739524286>that honestly makes more sense - one would expect better trained/experienced troops would be better both in tactics AND marksmanship, so I honestly don't mind them increasing in tandem.One thing that's nice about CM is that Experience, Leadership and Motivation are all separate stats, which lets you customize individual troops or formations to specific 'backstories'. Set a platoon HQ to [Green experience, +2 Leadership, High Morale] and you've got a gifted Lt. straight out of Officer school and eager to prove himself, while the anti-tank team in his platoon is set to [Crack, 0, Low] as they've been in this war too long and are burned out. And then you can have some [Conscript, -2, Fanatical] cannon fodder that fights (ineptly) to the death.
I'm too autistic for normal milsims anymore
>>739493886>Thoughts on Graviteam games?Great series, absolute technical marvel and undoubtedly the best of what the genre has to offer (without getting into Steel Beasts Pro etc), but much like Combat Mission I wish they'd unfuck the UI/camera/controls a bit. They're uneccesarily jank and I say that as someone who has been playing them since they came out.The devs need to stop being such autistic fuckwit boomers and unfuck their shit, they have great games that just put people off constantly with how unintuative things are.Graviteam Tactics dev in particular is forever crying about poor sales whilst also refusing to address what puts customers off, not to mention the tutorials are either broken (due to underlying mechanics having been changed signifcantly since they were done) or simply don't explain things well and people basically need to find a current youtube series to watch for a few hours to learn the basics.
>>739482680>and yet there is not a single mod that fixes the AI, improves the retarded foliage/grass implementation or the shooting and moving mechanics.There are literally a dozen mods that change all of those things.You're a lying faggot who doesn't even play ARMA.
>>739514729Yeah this is what I hate. If it's gonna be PvE, at least set them above level 50 ffs. Level 100 AI in Arma 3 is, aside from its inability to navigate buildings, unironically probably the most tactically adept shooter AI there is, since they actually know how to hold angles and surround the player (assuming they have enough troops to do so).
>>739525280what the fuck kind of AK is that meant to be with a giganigga FAL mag
>>739525383Is Graviteam dev the asshole one? I remember the guy goes off on people asking any question.
>>739524521Meh, I dont like jungle islands, kinda boring.
>>739526258>Is Graviteam dev the asshole one? I remember the guy goes off on people asking any question.I wouldn't say he's an asshole, a bit abrasive and stuck in his ways perhaps, but he's just one of those unfortunately brilliant individuals that is exceptional at the simulation/technical/historical accuracy aspects but everything else just doesn't matter to him that if you asked him to design a laptop, it'd look like pic related.
Are there any 4chan groups that play tacticall/rts games and shit ?>>739527995
>>739528421There used to be
>>739528838F
>>739487685I have a cold war gone hot fatigue
>>739532171it never took off really
>>739471216I played hell let loose for like ten minutes and almost died of second hand embarrassment when a guy in the squad or w/e said “so the commanding officer is like, really happy with us” and kept going on about how the squad was getting hecking NOTICED Do people really lack that much self respect, that their idea of escapism is “I need an authority figure to pat me on the head” fkn takes all the fun out of everything
>>739527068Hes clearly very based if a little autistic
>>739533258Why are you autistic?
>>739534535A bunch of losers role playing a military hierarchy like theyre role playing working at target is fucking sad man, I don’t care how autistic that makes me.
>>739534981Not as sad as having a literal mental illness KEK
>>739535317Guess I hit a nerve huh buddy. Whats even more funny is that you retards think youre being realistic like the badass real soldiers you surely would have been, but you all sound like a bunch of middle management wagies kissing the regional managers ass and backbiting to climb the corporate ladder. Youre not a serious person to me. I would rather be in the shit with a autistic fucking redditor than a middle fucking manager
>>739481726I had like 1500 hours in squad until the infantry update that changed everything and I uninstalled
>>739471216>Why are they even popular ? It's exciting to play games with realistic gameplay because they approach combat in a way that is so different to popular military/shooter games, extremely high lethality makes every weapon very satisfying to use and meticulously detailed handling and ballistics gives arms and armour a skill factor and depth of character that is lost on most titles, it's fun just to learn how to use a soviet-era rangefinder.>Where does one even begin?Operation Flashpoint
>>739535675They undid the update because of complaints
>>73950041598 is a decent a amount
>>739536535>Operation FlashpointHoly godlike tastes.
>>739482680>and yet there is not a single mod that fixes the AILAMBS, Vcom AI, DCO Soldier FSMAI accuracy fixTurret Tweaks>improves the retarded foliage/grass implementationno grass mod, hide among the grass, ACSTG - AI cannot see through grasscore game engine limitations cannot be fixed just with mods.>or the shooting ace3 (dumbass)also changing your default settings>and moving mechanics.enhanced movement rework>Anyway, Antistasi is fun with friends but all the systems in Arma are broken and don't really work.no, your friend that setup antistasi was incompetent for the level of autism arma3 requires and you are an ignorant faggot.
>>739533258>>739535587why did the smallest bit of RP mindbreak you like this?
>>739540027read the thread dipshit
>>739540118I did.You are an ignorant faggot with no idea what mods exist, or what they can and cannot fix.
I was hyped for broken arrow but it's a dumpster fire
>>739482680>It's barely above something like SL or the Sims.that's just retarded, kys
>>739471216ah, you are a woman
>>739485767arma 3 is broken but not because of your lies.the game engine is too weak because underneath its arma 2 with a bit of arma 1.there are mods for ALL of the issues you listed.its just that getting them to WORK is finicky.you cannot simple subscribe to them.arma reforger is a testbed to try and fix that, but of course that is too difficult to attack so you just fuck around and wiffle about "instability"Bitch please.any arma 3 server that is properly modded falls apart anyways after enough hours of uptime and its always hilarious if you are doing shit like antistasi.
>>739494647>You are trying to combine a high IQ genre with a low IQ one,Actually based take and this is why PR was my favorite because it took the FPS part out a bit by using cone-of-fire style bullet deviation and making it exaggerated, to where positioning and teamwork mattered exponentially more than how good someone was at aiming. That's such a huge skill disparity in modern FPS with how great players can land headshots on running targets at 400m in even the most "realistic" of games. And oddly the firefights in that game felt way more authentic than other games.btw in Combat Mission, I heard the AI was bad and that the game doesn't reward thinking outside the box, it wants you to do everything a specific way. Is that true?
>>739540245interesting logo. wonder if theres any history behind it
>>739524248
>>739540906
>>739472872cause it's engine is dogshit poo poo 1 core full load lets fucking go
>>739541492>1 core>she doesn't know
Just play Shadow Empire. Earthslop is all metagamed since we know what worked.
I'm having fun playing picrel.
is there any non modern tacticool milsim? I feel like milsims always do modern setting
>>739494647I played Combat Mission and realized that the devs are westcucks.For post WW2 they artifically gut the spotting of non-western forces.
>>739521651True, it's easier than a3 but why do you come into this thread just to be salty? I'm a better pilot than you in any game.
>>739543051>artifically
>>739493886suffers from the same curse as almost every other russian game where its cool as fuck but the actual act of playing it is a huge pain in the ass until you've got dozens of hours to understand how all the shit works7,62 high calibre is the same
>>739541721miller reporting in
>>7395443527,62 high calibre is a lot more playable in comparison, the interface isn't even bad, just the lack of direction in the game.
>>739540684>I heard the AI was badThe AI is abysmal, but honestly 99% of my playtime has been against humans.>the game doesn't reward thinking outside the box, it wants you to do everything a specific wayNot sure what you mean, obviously the game has a lot of stuff like morale and C2 intel sharing so a lot of gamey shit won't work, there's a reason the box exists in real life. Because of this a lot of gamey tactics like sending a tank solo behind enemy lines by riding the edge of the map will rarely work: it will just be alone with no intel sharing, effectively blind, and get taken out by some ATGM it had no hopes of ever spotting in time.Stuff like using SPAA against tanks or IFVs is a bad idea *in most cases* not because the game intentionally cockblocks you but because a Shilka was never intended for that role and has horrid optics and FCS for it. If you do manage to get the drop on it before it spots and blows you to hell, a Shilka will absolutely destroy a top of the line Abrams. Figuratively of course, no way the Shilka will actually penetrate the armor but any external component like optics etc will be pretty much sandblasted away leaving it blind and mission-killed.
>>739545810>>739546891I prefer anime ones instead of those plastic freaks from korea/china
>>739547142idgaf what you prefer, bucko
>>739496272can any anons explain why no cunt on earth plays Exile, Wasteland or Survival mods anymore?I just love being alone against the entire server.
>>739493886I'm a big fan and absolutely love itI hope the dev gets around to making Khalkin Gol stuff; early Japanese versus Soviet stuff would be absolutely kinoI still have NO idea how to win the Operation Moduler campaigns, taking a socially-acceptable level of casualties while destroying enough of the enemy is really damn hard>>739527068>>739526258>>739534008Yeah, he's one of those real oldfashioned armoured warfare grogs, the likes of which were even rare amongst old boomers and are next to extinct now. Double so to find a Ukrainian one like him as well, even before the invasion
look at these cannons
>remember old ARMA youtuber who I used to watch>ran all sorts of crazy missions with his clan, way above anything I ever had the free time to commit to>check out his channel to see what he's up to and his last video is some really gay "muh cops are evil and ICE is fashism BLM" video, with no more milsim videos what compels amerimutts to do this? he used to be a muhreen too iirc
>>739547995Their country is built on an indian burial ground.
>>739493886graviteam is pure kino
>>739525987there are AK pattern rifles in 7.62 NATO that have straight mags. that pic is probably zastava M77
>>739547650There is like 1 dayz like server but nothing else i guess players just find it too jank or something (i prefer a3 gunplay compared to dayz)>>739547273>>739547818
>>739547995god forbid someone is a good freakin' person
>>7394921349/10 times I play with randoms they always drive straight into the AO so we all die before firing a single shot. Then I play with close ones instead, take our own route, win most of the time. But I would've lied if I said I never had a great time with randoms before, you never know what kind of characters you stumble upon.
>>739540567I said that already
Big operations are very cool but also very difficult to put together.
Are any of those tactricoll fps good like Gronch,gayzone and shit ?
>>739551323no, they are all shit.you can leave the thread now
>>739487685already over, sadlythey would've been better off doing it as an early 90s setting where the USSR never split up and things went south bad to make it stand out a bit more from the other cold war period games. or launching with more than 3 maps and 2 factions. But I don't see it recovering when it blew its load so early
>>739542921i cringe on how much they got inspired by nu-ghost recon
I don't like directionless of arma multiplayer, just bands of hobos fighting. Squad and HLL are better
>>739493132>tacfps = milsimBEHOLD, a milsim
>>739553753SOG is such a good DLC, it's a shame the koth server is not populated
>>739552282Which servers are best for those games ?
>>739493886In my head i always just thougjt of them as Total war WW2
>>739552282which is why something like FNF is the best
>>739509412>83 already outwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?>early accessoh of course
>>739524521*tanoa with the sog pf lighting mod*concession accepted
>>739553126>siege>tacfpslel
>>739540684This guy gets it. PR Chads stay winning.
>>739542991Like what are you thinking, future tacticool milsim? Or somehow a war of 1812 but tacticool milsim?
>Milsim features present warsname 5
>>739511194SPT unironically
>>739558486Okay now do past wars.
>>739558610okay
>>739558697Too easy. Even paster.
>>739558952>He wants ww1 in an engine designed for modern warNo.
>>739545261Ah yes, the Abrams. The wunderwaffe that had to be pulled out of the only conflict it was actually designed to serve in because we didn't want to get embarassed by a real enemy
>>739471216>Why are they even popular ?...They're not?>Where does one even begin?ARMA/Op Flashpoint.
>>739558486How to get into PR?
>>739559201just download it from the website since its freeTheres a manual, however you could just watch a video as there are many tutorials around for beginnershttps://www.realitymod.org/downloads
>>739512248doom's rotating 2D sprite enemies and environment geometry makes me vomit
>>739558486I wish there was something like this but for "near" sci-fi like BF2146FH2 would be cool too but I'm tired of WW2
PR sounds like a good idea until you realize they're extremely hamstrung by the ancient ass BF2 engine. There's also a PR for BF3 which would be better but that engine despite being better is even more restrictive and I'm not sure the progress or if it's even the same team working on it.
>>739559839Now that's the truth.
What mil are you simming on this Memorial Day?
nice to see PRfags and combat missionfags on this board, happy memeorial day you aspie fucks
>>739542921How's the AI after the recent update? Got bored of em being too easy.
>>739559057Ziggers say this meanwhile insisting they have the best tanks ever even though yours are even worse. Shouldn't you be getting in the next wave anyway Ivan?
Autism, similar to CoD autism but the game of peek a boo lasts longer.
Its interesting how long the thread lasted Also how active is PR last time i was on there was like one big RUS server (im eu)
>>739567659The best tanks are the ones that enter the battlefield. Don't you find it embarrassing our government had to beg for our main battle tank to not get combat tested in a modern conflict?>may we see it?
>>739545261would you be down to play some pvp games vs me? i want to try out the multiplayer of combat mission>>739568450https://prspy.realitymod.org - eu looks strong but probably dies out later, NA is fully dead I think with only some SA population. I stopped playing ages ago I think NA mainly moved to Squad.
Current wars ruined MilSims. Instead of enthusiasts playing games, it's political and sides shitflinging.
>>739493064>Why did schizos insist on ruining every nice thing?Because they're schizos
>>739532171>>739532232The issue is these games all take place in the same stretch of flat european farmland with a couple podunks and industrial parks sprinkled in for variety. Yeah, it's "realistic" based on the doctrine of the time, but it's boring as shit. It also doesn't even take advantage of the full implications of a cold war gone hot. It's always the same "US + West Germany and maybe the Limeys vs. USSR + East Germany in a bunch of empty fields". They never do:>Balkan shenanigens ft. the yugoslavs, bulgarians, greeks, and turks>Soviet attack on the Aleutians>Korean War 2: Electric Boogaloo>US invasion of Cuba>Taiwan strati crisis '83>PLA Thunderrun to Hong Kong>Or alternately, USSR v. PLA grudge match>Gulf war but early>Afghan fights with the mujaheddin
>>739552282>just bands of hobos fightingThat's how modern warfare looks like now IRL.
>>739490996NTA but I've spent about 300-400 hours trying to find an actually good AI since I like playing Arma single player Zeus where I spawn things on both sides and watch them fight and stuff.Lambs is probably the best one but the root issue as others have said is that the base game is so fucked you can't actually fix the AI beyond scripting patches. There is no mod that can make the AI robust unless you are willing to heavily rely on modules and UI-heavy setups. There is nothing close to a smart autonomous AI beyond LAMBS that fits my purposes. I don't expect this to change unless some startup becomes autistically interested in selling neural network AI to the DOD for simulations and it somehow scrapes to the civilian side.The best solution is that it does an alright job and you just have to accept that things like CQB or decisionmaking are not going to happen ever sadly
>>739494647Actual TRVKE here. Combat mission is without a doubt the best milsim ever created which is funny considering its engine is abysmal and it's a solid 4/10 when accounting for potential. But it's the only decent sim that combines decision making with tactics with responsiveness in a way that synthesizes into something fun without devolving into spreadsheets. There's a reason why it's used by places like West Point and various organizations worldwide. I just hope the engine remake comes soon since it's truly awful.Real milsims are also a deeply niche genre and populated essentially by based geriatrics and government slush funds which makes the market appeal basically negative. Turns out people like to larp as strategic geniuses in kiddy sandboxes like paradox games and whatnot but suddenly don't want to apply actual critical thinking to games that require it. If you go and look the amount of actual strategic games are basically nill and the video game community almost intentionally hates the idea of a strategic game>b-but chess is strategic!chess is proven to not significantly make you better at anything besides chess. Chess masters are skilled at recognizing grid patterns but not at actual strategic thinking. Wargames don't magically make you better either but they have qualities similar to RTS's where you have to add stress and juggling decisions to the mix that do translate better to other mediumsBasically people don't like having to think in video games and systematically prefer the appearance of strategy in vapid ways over the actual application of strategy as in "g" in intelligence. The most common expression of this is mistaking wiki-level complexity in numbers and details for "strategy", thus conflating crystallizes skill for fluid skill/intelligence
>>739569674I like your scenario ideas. Gates of Hell and the MOW expansions added some interesting stuff like the crimean front and the winter war.As much shit as I give blacks ops all the dirty wars that went on were interesting, like Africa and Cuba.>>739568928It was built for the Fulda Gap in the 80's, it's been made about 30 tons heavier since on the same engine and there's fear getting an actual US one wrecked will let someone analyse the British chobham armour, so they don't ever give out the actual good ones, just a stripped-down ver.
IL-2 Korea is basically the first Korean War game since 1999. Why does it get no attention?
>>739572392you'd think planefags would be all over the era but warthunder has dominated that space with mediocrity for so long.. hopefully some cool missions come out of it, the dynamic campaign of the first IL-2 game was amazing
>>739572392The New IL2 was nickel and dimed out the ass and older stuff was neglected. It's not really hard to expect the same shit going on. Wait and see. I've never really seen much about the Korean war. I would love to do some vietnam war flight shit.
>>739494647i never got how scouting was meant to work with the wego system, because you can't say "retreat if you're fired upon"
>milsim>a guy that ate 30mm from an ifv can be revived by a chest compressor>an NCO can magically summon his squad>a guy will jump 6 ft off the ground after you killed him with a 5.56>simulation
>>739572489the mini-ai systems within combat mission are both it's coolest feature and it's biggest fault because a recce squad gets fired on and they're immediately worthless because of suppression and stress and a good player will eliminate them instead of letting them retreat
>fellating shit let looseI guess this is par for the course for this board but I sometimes forget this is /v/ - Casuals & Dogshit Opinions
>>739536535>meticulously detailed handling and ballistics gives arms and armour a skill factor and depthFunny you say this and mention OFP in the same post
>>739573424HLL is literally the sponge, it soaks up the retards so they don't engage in actual good games and pollute those communities, /v/ liking it is par for the course
>>739471216the original operation flashpoint is kinoall the later entries are just a bit too much grognard shit for me.arma 3 would make for a hell of an RTS if the AI was ever fixed
>>739573645>HLL is literally the sponge, it soaks up the retards so they don't engage in actual good games and pollute those communitiesHuh, I never looked at it this way but this makes sense
>>739572363>we're afraid the ultra good tank will get rekt so we give them the stripped down tank>we're afraid the stripped down tank will look bad blown to shit on 4kHD drone footage so we beg them not to use it>we are the world's most powerful military (tm)
>>739573645Based
>>739572363>and there's fear getting an actual US one wrecked will let someone analyse the British chobham armourSeems like a bit of an odd thing to get hung up on given that by the time the Abrams were sent to Ukraine they'd been using a few Challenger 2s fitted with that secret armour for quite a while. That said they do seem to have been very conservative with those tanks, as far as I'm aware they've only lost two to enemy action after years of fighting and neither of the wrecks were recovered by the Russians.
>>739473641>>739495205>>739544901>>739545810>>739546891would you really play a TPS war game but with anime girls in them?
>>739558486The second intifada isn't a present war
>>739578003i wouldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwh41_jSexA(some jap playing modded fallout4)
>>739574510I don't know if you have noticed, armored vehicles of any kind aren't doing too well in this conflict, they were built for an operational reality that doesn't exist anymore.ATGMs and PGMs were thing, but not 24/7 ubiquitous observation and highly precise strikes beyond the contact line with instant BDA.
>>739578003Why not?
I can't get into Combat Mission. Graviteam is more fun. I only tried Normandy so I wasn't interested in the setting because I like the eastern front more. I just didn't enjoy the game design compared to GT.
>>739543824AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA If you call that webm your skill level bragging... AHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAACall me when you land a helicopter on the the telephone wires.
Before this thread gets closed can anybody link me/show me any good clientside mods that can be used in public servers i guess ? I only know Zeus Enhanced i think
>>739581517CH view?
>>739471216I hate commies but the t-54 style tank is so aesthetic on the outside.
I hate the menu diving, roleplay, and clanshit required for milsimsI hate Squad-likes which pad the game with busywork and listening to some normalfaggot on voipI hate how the extent of creativity for public matches in all these games boils down to "stay in the circle to capture it"I hate Foxhole's discord meta and facility-buildingbut I love large-scale battles with tons of playersAre there any games left like Planetside where you can play in a 200-player battle as either a regular guy or as part of a clan and still have the same experience as everyone else? War of Rights and Holdfast are the closest thing I can think of. Mount and Blade multiplayer was fun too before it died.
>>739581197Combat Mission is absolute jank after all. Old dogshit engine and devs who don't even know how to fix it.
>>739581197and I think Graviteam is fundamentally broken because you can't control your units and the AI is not good enough, at least CM allows you to micro your units so they won't act retarded
>>739582548>>739581197>>739494647I wanna make a game like combat mission/ steel beasts/ PR but with anime girls where you see their bodies parts blow up but a slow combat pace. Oh and rape.
>>739583562Godspeed.
>>739583562I would buy it
>>739583562I will buy it and mod out the rape
>>739583562Based.>>739584423Glorious retard.
>>739471216I don't like modern sims. They forgot about actually making the games fun years ago.
>>739584782>>739584827>>739584882Yeah and that's why you don't fast move around unsafe corners or into unsafe buildings. What did you expect? The assault and hunt commands exist for this exact reason.
here is my favorite one
>>739481939I love this game and I never see it mentioned anywhere. I like the most when you hit high level and you're taking a whole platoon deep behind the frontline. If you do it correctly you can open entire new fronts. The total conversion mods are neat too.
>>739584929the spotting is so fucking stupid sometimes, like how would those guys not hear an idling tank engine?
>>739482123New-Microprose has a pretty good track record for indie strategy games though. I like Second Front a lot.
>>739584919Assault command is used here >>739584782They enter the building full of cowering enemies and proceed to start cowering while the enemies get up and blast them.>>739584827The hunt command was used and completely useless, as evidenced by the pile of bodies already on the corner. Also half the point of this one is showing the guy in foreground not spotting shit.>>739584929saar your hunt command?
for me its flight simsack
now for normal webms rather than ones mocking the ai and spotting
>>739584929Did you know that friendlies can fire through friendly vehicles but enemies can't? Smaller vehicles can hide behind big tanks and still fire straight through it, and infantry can do the same. Doing so on purpose will make your opponent not play with you though and get you blacklisted if you're in some group.
whatever happened to that &tac /vg/ thread
>>739585198>Smaller vehicles can hide behind big tanks and still fire straight through it, and infantry can do the same.Actually I should say I THINK vehicles can. but infantry definitely can. >>739585134>>739585173One other thing that's fucked in CM is HE modelling. Literally put a 500kg bomb on the roof of a shitty Arab brickhouse and it won't kill people 2 floors down.
>>739585286it died naturally.>>739585198sad!
>>739584929Though that is absolutely wonky spotting mechanics, you're not showing the full picture: if the tank had its engine on, you'd have seen a ? marker on there from many many meters away because the sound will have your infantry mark it as ? from like 100m away at least.If it didn't, then no.
>>739585350thats too bad, most ppl were really chill and they turned me onto things like hdest and other games
>>739584882are you confused by fog of war mechanics in a wargame?
>>739480479kek
wish carrier command 2 had infantry drones you could blow up
>>739585569
>>739585350you guys should be playing darkest hour red orchestra mod. it's still updated to this day after like 15 yearsmogs vanilla RO and the servers are still active on the weekendhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1280/Darkest_Hour_Europe_4445/
>>739585757I stopped enjoying when they went from the classic RO gameplay to copying Squad/PR.I dont like squads, rally points, FOBs, etc.
>>739471261I saw an Instagram comment on an airplane picture that went “I love seeing all the war thunder and world of tanks comments on a totally unrelated post” or something like that and it’s spot on. The military autists are just like train autists and know everything about vehicles that havent been around for almost a century (some were prototypes so they never existed but they know all about them). I have no idea what they’re talking about just tons of model numbers and stats but it tickles me. >the t2003 fixed all the over heating problems that the t2001 had but never went into production because the war ended>the Zimbabwe type 6 had a slightly different camo configuration meant for a foresting division of a special company that never matteredDino fags are like this too
>>739585757is the italy stuff any good, havent played in a few years
>>739482407Canada mentioned
I just can't do shooters anymore, I'm tired of trying to coordinate with 20 other random people with varying levels of commitment, it just doesn't work, I only want to play RTT/RTS now.
>>739586005>is the italy stuff any goodnothing special, I prefer the older maps
>>739585924>I dont like squads, rally points, FOBs, etc.You can't even pick up enemy weapons in that shitty squad engine. red orchestra is unironically better than Hell Let Loose
FUCK my ass im trying to host Arma 3 local server and it just isnt fucking working i opened ports and now since it has been months idk which type of WAN Connection it was was it HSI? ,TR069,HSI AD,TR069 ADAnd i had a guide before but it was deleted in an accident so FUCK
>>739504808Anon clearly making up the story to get 4chan gold account from Mossad I mean the admins.
>>739512995Nice sideslip but I have to dock all your points because you didn't follow the emergency checklist for engine fire.
>>739515765I always wonder about shots like this where the turret literally pops off. Are they not solidly attached and if they are: the explosive force making them pop off from the top must just fucking smear everyone inside into paste. I mean they're dying either way but christ.
>>739585394>tfw they cut out the death sounds in RO2 for being too 'traumatic'
>>739471216
>>739587808And i think i did it i used Network Utilities tool and it said that ports are openI guess i will tomorrow (its 3am currently here) i will host some easy pvp fucking around in Stratis airport just watch out for "Feel free to join PVP" name
>>739471216Once you get too old for COD you start playing Counter Strike. Once you get too old for Counter Strike, you start playing ARMA. Once you get too old for ARMA, you start playing whatever random grody 'simulator' with a bedrock skill floor you can find.
Milsims for this feel?
>>739590314IL-2 Blitz & Tobruk has clickable cockpit without going full autism like DCS. No zeppelin carriers sadly
>>739494647Imagine playing a game that actually looks this abominably ugly.
>>739471571the netcode in arma is some of the worst out of any game ive ever playedliteral lag on the order of seconds. its so shit.every single aspect of the game lagged and was janky as fuck. i fail to see how anything in it could be fun when you see everything glitching out trying to "immerse"
>>739590234COD is more casual than CS
>>739590314Submarine ?Silent Hunter 3 modded and maybe that new Uboat game Plane ?I guess IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 modded (i tried the mod but game just wouldnt launch for me it would only launch if i selected vanilla)Tank ?Well if you want jank Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942 (also modded) or if youw ant more polished and modern Gunner Heat PC And for interactable shit i only know that SH3 has them
>>739590234Where does BF and Insurgency fit in?
This is somehow the most successful milsim thread on /v/ in yearsAnd it'll be over soon
>>739588236Is this landing any better?
>>739590550>BFThere's always a Pepsi drinker when everyone wants Coke.
Anyone have a diagram or chart of an autism spectrum for these kinds of games? Kind of like on the least autistic end is maybe cs or cod or something and on the right most autistic is I don't know DCS?
>>739590523COD is more casual than CS. But its faster pace is what makes people flake out of it as they get older. CS is more hardcore in terms of competition. But it is also slower and you don't need teenager reflexes to win.
How do milsimmers feel about EFT?
>>739590903nice gunporn in a horrible game
>>739590903SPT salvages it a bit I guess.
Anyone try Dagger Directive?
>>739471216>driving tank>screen goes black>"you have been killed">some infantry mook dropped a top attack missile which caused a catastrophic detonationIt's not for everyone, people want to be the main character not one more grunt being fed into the furnace of war.
>>739591092I tried the demo when it came out and it was shit how is the game now ?
>>739591210idk I was hoping someone else would know
>>739591106the interesting thing about the power fantasy most games give you is that with milsim games you feel like the absolute grunt worthless piece of shit until you learn the game, then you farm the worthless pieces of shit. so it's kind of like a delayed power fantasy in that if you can stick around long enough to learn you become the wrecking ball
>>739585086I'll reinstall when they fix the UI/controls
>>739585086Nice shooting
>>739590234I just got tired of playing against people. The AI doesn't do meta bullshit.I still play COD1 every couple years.
>>739591106>>739591783For me, milsim is really about the fantasy of teamwork, all the limitations imposed on your character make it harder for a single person to carry and even the most basic coordination with someone else will give you a big advantage.The fantasy is that you can successfully work with other people to accomplish things you couldn't otherwise.
>>739558343we are such a minority that I just want to say I love you and I'm glad other people exist that understand.
>>739471341lots of vets play it also. milsim ops with squads and the whole shebang
>>739593710>>739593710I really wish I had more guys to play with, but honestly arma with 7 people I could say anything around versus 30 I hated is a world of difference even if you struggle to do some stuff.
>>739593836It's the big paradox.
>>739585086SEAD and anti-ballistic/cruise missile sorties in this game are so good
>>739471758They're reddit tourists who can't say goyslop
>>739594898Goyslop is food, tourist.
>>739590903adored it for thousands of hours, too many changes now, nikita listened to too many streamers/fans. It's fine but it's not the game I once loved.
>>739471216Is this considered a mil sim?
>>739596742>100 vs 100 in the Civil warIts an arcade game
>>739596873Its 200 vs 200 now, and ive heard theyre planning on increasing it to 500
>>739584882Lol get pwned.
>>739596742The 1776 event was so kino. They should pivot into european battles
>>739597352zombies are a blast too
Bush War mod in Reforger is some of the most fun I've had gaming in a long time
>>739566054Company of Heroes 3. Just finished the Italian Campaign and while I enjoyed the overall experience, the final mission was anti-climatic.
>>739597918War....war changes.
